Former US Air Force Sergeant reveals his time in Special Service chasing UFOs and Intersculpt Art

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Summary

➡ Richard Murray, a native Floridian, served in the U.S. Air Force special services during the Vietnam era. After his service, he became a jeweler and furniture designer, and later discovered the process of internal reverse sculpture. He shared stories of his time in the Air Force, including chasing UFOs and organizing mobile radar systems. His experiences in the military and his work as an artist have greatly influenced his life.
➡ The speaker shares his journey from being in the Air Force to becoming a successful artist. He learned jewelry making from his commander and later started working with acrylics. His career took off when he accidentally discovered a new way to use acrylics while working late one night. His unique artwork, often inspired by space and the spiritual world, has been appreciated by many, including executives from acrylic companies and Ripley’s Believe it or Not.
➡ The artist shares his journey of creating sculptures inspired by gratitude and his experiences, including witnessing a NASA rocket launch. He uses unique materials like acrylic and purple heart wood, and his works have been displayed worldwide, including at the Smithsonian. He also creates pieces in honor of notable figures like Elon Musk and Melania Trump. His work and life have been influenced by his fascination with UFOs since childhood.
➡ The speaker shares his experiences as an artist, including his struggles with Disney over his artwork and his work on Star Trek and Star Wars. He also talks about his personal life, including his faith, his struggles with alcoholism, and his decision to live alone. He mentions his friendship with Bill Cooper, who exposed some of his secret missions. Finally, he discusses a sculpture he made for President Trump, which was originally intended for Fox News, but he changed his mind after they announced Biden as the winner of the election.
➡ The speaker, a dyslexic artist, shares his experiences and aspirations. He talks about his desire to support communities and individuals who have shown resilience during the COVID-19 pandemic. He also emphasizes the importance of rebuilding society and maintaining a strong relationship with law enforcement. The speaker also shares his encounters with unusual individuals and his belief in extraterrestrial life, and how these experiences have influenced his artwork.
➡ The artist enjoyed touring 37 countries, observing people’s reactions to his art, and found it rewarding. He also discussed learning about remote viewing to find a lost animal, and plans to share his art creation process through YouTube shorts. The conversation ended with mutual appreciation and plans for future interactions.

Transcript

Jacob with unleashing intuition secrets joined today by Richard Murray. He was born in Miami, Florida. Grew up in in Florida, went to school in Florida. It’s a native Floridian. He went in the air Force at 18 on his 18th birthday. Kind of like me shortly after my 18th birthday. After serving the U. S. Air force special services as a sergeant during the end of the Vietnam era, Mr. Murray began his career in the arts as a jeweler and furniture designer. In late 1976, by accident, he discovered the process of internal reverse sculpture intersculpt. Richard, thanks for joining us.

How you doing? Good, man, it’s good to see you again. Yeah, good seeing you. Yeah, Your work was phenomenal. And boy, you got some great stories of your time in the air force. I had, I had a blast. I mean, I was just sitting here. Thank you. Can you hear me? Yeah. Okay. I was just sitting here thinking, you know, about the oath that we took when we went in the service. And it didn’t say that. It cut off when you got out. Right. A lot of these democrats, you know, Democrats are still constipating. Absolutely. So, you know, some of the stories you were telling me, you’re in that special services.

Air force special services. And you guys would chase UFOs. Well, we ended up. I ended up at McDill Air Force Base, went back home, graduated top 10% of the school. I could have gone to any base in the world. And I went to the wife and says, well, you know, let’s go to Germany, let’s go to Australia. No, I want to go home. Oh, so well, you know how that goes. We went home and I ended up in civil engineers there and I took care of strike command at first because of my career credentials from the school with special equipment.

And later they shifted me out to the 729th Tactical Tactical Squadron. And then the branch which was called the flight off of that was the 71st attack control flight. We were totally mobile radar. The squadron was massive in size with mobile radar, you know, they had like three domes, three dishes. We only had one. And, and jet generator and diesel generator and we could pack up and go anywhere in the world within an hour. Wow, wow. Sound like my old Command Seal Team 6. We could go anywhere within an hour. So obviously a very high speed command.

Right. One of the things I did was I organized. I. I just got. You guys are chaotic. Everything’s chaotic. How can you get. You’re going to be looking for cables and all this kind of stuff. No, let’s pack it all up. Let’s have it all ready to go on pallets. Let’s just get ready when we go, we put all that aside, take the stuff in the pallets and go, you know. And that’s what we ended up doing. Beautiful, beautiful. So what kind of, what kind of aircraft and stuff would you, would you see when you’re, when you guys are like chasing them or whatever? Well, first, I mean, what kind of aircraft did they drop us out of? A C130.

But as far as the aircraft, the, the gentleman that was at the Pentagon, later I find out that it was Colonel Wendell C. Stevens was the guy who ended up with the 10 tapes. We had to tape everything when we were in Hawaii, but when we were in Boniface, Florida, that was quite amazing. That our first tdy, first time I was away from the house at any one time, you know, it’s like. And 45 guys out in the middle of a cornfield top the highest point in the state of Florida. We got two 400 dishes going up and down the state and we got the radar going.

And you know, we’d get out there with cane poles with fluorescent bulbs on it. And you see, you’d see the thing just turn all the way around. It would just light them up. And the first thing that happened there, that was kind of interesting, if I’m not mistaking. We were the ones that actually saw the UFOs over the white House because we reached out that far, okay? We had a 4,000 mile azimuth on our, on our radar. And they tracked them and that was verified. From what I understand. I didn’t know much about the operations of what was going on.

I was the air conditioning guy on a radar van. And you know what? You hear everything. You know you do, you hear everything that’s going on, right? They won’t tell you what’s going on. But I tell you what, when we were in Hawaii, I got in a shitload of trouble. I went over to the, the, our commander at that time that was with us, and I said, sir, how come we know where they’re going to be every single time we go into the field? Good question. You know what I mean? And he goes, you shut up.

Don’t ever ask that question again. Okay, fine, I knew what we were doing then I gotta tell you something, it changed my life, okay? When you see something like that, you go, we don’t have anything like that yet. You know, we’ve had nothing but narco presidents destroy our country for years. We could have been at the jetsons of Kennedy was still around, you know. You know, I gotta tell you something I spent my whole life trying to figure out. I mean, since I created the art form, it has shifted my life completely because you know who Dr.

Joe Dispenza is, right? Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, you know, I, I, I, I’ve listened to him all the time, and he’s absolutely correct. You know, if you’re standing there, you’re standing there for, at, for 20 minutes looking at one sculpture while it’s rotating in front of you, your mind is going to tell you you’re there. And it does. And when I first started this artwork, I didn’t, I didn’t, I didn’t know what I had. I just thought it was cool. It was easy for me to do because I’m dyslexic and everything else out there is kind of backwards.

And I was just having a great time. And I could take four or five pieces of artwork and I could make an entire group of colonies. You know what I mean? It was kind of fun. And the artwork started taking off. I do, I do shows. And when I, I got to a point where I got asked to come bring it to a school, and I went, sure. So I had to go through the sheriff clearances and all that stuff. Got all those letters and stuff, and I took all the pieces in, but I had the bases lowered because they’re just kids, right? And I would sit back in a room and watch the faces on these kids.

I like to watch people’s faces that are looking at the artwork. When you’re watching their faces, it’s mind blowing. I mean, they just see them just light right up. And I thought that was just so cool. This is doing something good. Yeah. So evidently something shifted for you when you were seeing all these UFOs and stuff. The most, most incredible one that I, I heard you talk about was when you went to Hawaii, the big island, and you’re at the top of monolo. Yeah, I, I only got one day off in 40 in six months. I only got one day off, but I was there.

I mean, we’re only 10 minutes away from you. And nothing went wrong because I’m good. But I grabbed a radio and I said, you know, I just, I just want to go up to Maunakea and check it out. So they made me get in my, my weather gear to go up there. Because when you look up at Mauna Kea, there’s snow on the ground. So I’m going up and. Pair of shorts. No, I Got to get dressed up hot, you know, And I get up there and I walk up to the observatory and I thought it was so cool that you could stand there and see from your feet.

Goes all the way out to the edge of the island. And as I was looking at it and it was like noon, it was high noon, the sun went directly up and you could see deep in the water. And all of a sudden I started seeing these reflections. Like they were flickering. I thought they were just flickering at first, but no, they’re moving. And there was, there was a lot of them. There wasn’t just a few. I would say there was at least 15, 20 of them that came through that pass around Mauna Kea heading out deep and then out they went.

But they would get out about five miles. But you do see them. I would estimate they were traveling between 600, 700 knots underwater. They’re booking. That’s fast. We don’t have torpedoes. And catch up with them, you know, it just amazing. And I’m just sitting there going. And they’re trying to tell me this ain’t real. I’m going, this is so much, this is weird. So squadron of these things and they like went between the islands super fast speed. And then you say, did you say that they, you saw them like come out of the water and. Yeah, they’d go out about five miles.

You can see from up that high. You can see five miles out easy. Like it’s like right there, you know. Yeah. And I’m having, I got the radio in my hand and you hear the, hear the radar going. And in between those moves, they would come out of the water and go straight up. They’re gone. They didn’t even show up on radar. Just. Wow. I mean, this, the technology that’s there is far beyond anything that, that the normal human being can imagine, you know. And I, I learned at an early, early age that there was several groups of people that were going to appreciate my artwork.

Okay. Star Wars, Star Trek, space technologies and the spiritual world. And it was so much fun to take my artwork in there and take it in and show it to these people. I mean, I made a living off of it. That’s. I was selling sculptures for and lived off my artwork for a long time when I was out in California. You get a lot of opportunity in California, but most of it’s getting trouble. So tell us how you got into this, this art. This is pretty, pretty interesting. Inter sculpt. How did that come about? Well, my commander in the Air force, when, when I, when he was there, he retired before we went to Hawaii.

He was such a neat guy. Major milks. And he was a jeweler. And because I was the air conditioning guy, I would, I ordered him torches and stuff where I could take them when we go tdy. He can set up his little bench and his little table and he could work on his, his jewelry at night when, when he’s in the, you know, out in the field. And he just loved, you know, and, and, you know, because we had generators, we had power. I started getting into the dentistry part of it. You know, I could, I won’t go.

I’d go over to the supply and get some dental drills and stuff to, to tune our M4s, you know, and to, to polish them down so they fire better, you know, and to clean things up and, and I do a lot of that stuff, you know. I love to shoot, man. I, I, oh yeah, you got some amazing weapons. Wow. Yeah. And I, I the question. Okay, I, oh, yeah, I got it. I got it right here. I set it out so I can show you. I’ll show you some of the jewelry that I made first, but then I’ll show you.

This is where it started right here. This rod, this rod started my whole career. This particular one. Wow. And you see that in the bottom? Yeah. Drilling a hole to make a ring stand. Okay. Where I ring stand it, all I gotta do is put color light underneath it. Everything’s display with artwork. Okay. Ever go to the gun shows and you see people just throw out a blanket and they put guns all over the top of it? Yeah, that’s their idea of display, you know. Anyway, this is the one started I was carving away to make a room for a ring I just made.

And the phone rang and it was Jeremiah Industries. Had the end of the building where I was in. I was in a strip like garage, you know, where you can just rent and work out of it, you know. And they had their phone line came through. But, you know, where I came from, I had something I could just go click, click, just dial out, you know. And I asked them for permission if I could answer the phone. They said, well, you gotta let it ring twice and then you can answer it. But you can’t call out unless you’ve got an emergency.

I said, okay, that was great. They were great to me. They gave me a blank check to start my company when they saw what I did. But I, after the three days, that three day weekend, they came back and they saw it and I went over her and showed Her a couple pieces that I just made. She flipped out. She wrote me a check for 500 bucks, says, go get your acrylic. I did. I still got some of that today. Wow. Yeah, because back then, you could buy garbage cans full of the stuff, and then you just clean it, machine it, and everything.

Acrylic is fabulous. Yeah, it’s fabulous material. But I used to make jewelry that was made out of brass rods and copper. Number one, copper. And, like, this is one of the. The bracelets that I made, and that. Those are copper rods and brass rods all put together. And a lot of golfers bought my stuff, women golfers. But, you know, your arm gonna turn green. You can’t help that, you know? And anyway, I. I was carving away on this piece of acrylic, and it’s like, Friday night at about. I think it was about 12:30 at night. I didn’t.

Didn’t want to spend time going out, partying. I don’t. I don’t like. I want to spend time on doing something constructive. And so I’m carving away on this piece, and all of a sudden, I hear the dingling. You know, the phone rings, right? So my chair that I had. That I said was an old theater chair, and I took one of those vibrating units that they have on the hotel beds and mounted it on the back of the chair, because I’m sitting there all the time. At least I want to massage my butt while I’m sitting there.

You go numb, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And. And it just made everything a lot better. Always improving, Always improving. And I went to reach for the phone and fell out of that chair. And my whole conclave that I made there to do my artwork and was made out of orange crates, and it was full of all the acrylic and all my tools and stuff, and that whole thing just came down on top of me. I. I don’t like to fall. I’m a big guy. It’s not the falling that. That’s the bad part. It’s that sudden stop.

Yeah. And it’s like, you know, I don’t bounce. You know what I mean? I go thud. And anyway, as I was trying to get up, a palette flipped over and hit my light. And it came on the back of my hand, and it burned me. Okay. I got the acrylic rod like this, right? I got it like this, and I. I’m holding it like this, and the rod. The light fell on the back of my hand and burned me. When I pulled away from it, it shined down and Shined up through it inside. And it looks like a rock Mesa about 500 yards off the highway.

Perfect detail. Wow. All these dental drills I got. Holy crap, this is great. So I got my acrylic and I started playing and I learned. I had to learn the acrylic. I mean, I’d go to the acrylic company, they’d teach me everything. I’ve met every single executive of every single acrylics company in the world. Met them all, and they love my work. All right. Oh, yeah. And Reynolds polymer was the biggest one. He was the artist. He was the most fantastic artist you could see with acrylic. And he became a defense contractor, so he’d keep up with his art.

He had these huge defense contracts, and he was massive, massive acrylics companies. But most of my acrylic comes from the aquarium windows that, that they make for Ripley’s Believe it or Not. Wow. But Ripley’s owns all the aquariums around the world. I didn’t know that. How about that? Yeah. As a matter of fact, the, the old man himself, Mr. Masterson, he gave me a block of acrylic that’s square. And you’ll see it in my works. You know, I, I, he, I went to see him when he, when he, when he came out of retirement over here.

Their offices are downtown, on the other side of Orlando. Great. God, it’s a beautiful place. And I went in there and I brought the piece in, and they’re all looking at it, having a great time and just enjoying it and stuff. And Mr. Masterson walks in and says, hey, hadn’t seen you in years, you know, because he and I and Roger used to go out to dinner and, I mean, go to lunch and stuff. And he says, what did you ever do with that piece of acrylic I gave you? I said, well, right now I’m trying to sell it to you for 60 grand.

You did that? Yeah. See, he never saw my artwork actually out front. So I’m working on some things with them because they got 22 locations around the world. I’d like to make that piece travel all around and sell the graphics off of. That’s how I make my living, is selling the graphics. Yeah. Now, something, something also happened. It’s almost like this is design intervention or something. So there was like a, a NASA launch rocket. You’re absolutely correct. Thanks for reminding me. When I got that piece of artwork and I’m holding it like this and all the dust in the room, you know, acrylic dust is some of the weirdest stuff to try to get out of your lungs.

So just get away from it. And I. I stepped outside my. My door of my. My studio, my shop, two car garage shop. And anyway, it had a street light up above, which is mercury vapor light, and it’s white light. So I’m holding it up like this and I’m looking at it, you know, and all of a sudden I noticed out of the side of my vision that my shadow is going long on the ground and it’s flashing orange. I thought I set off some kind of fire alarm or something, and I turned around and Look, I’m only 40 miles away from NASA.

And they sent off the, The. The Pioneer probe, and it took twin Atlas Centaurs to get that package into space. And it was pure orange, just not a cloud in the sky. We get that a lot here. Okay? We get that. Oh, yeah. Oh, it’s wonderful. Especially when the shuttle was around. You know, you see that shuttle go off and you see that stream out the bottom of it. That’s like that, you know, of flame. That’s a mile long. That’s a mile long. Wow. That’s 40 miles away. Jesus. Sometimes when the wind was really blowing towards us, you could hear just.

Just a rumble anyway. But I. That was the beginning of my career. I immediately, I just. I got warm from head to toe, and I felt this energy come over the top of me and just come down from my head all the way to my feet. My. All my. My hair stood up and I. I was. I just sat there in gratitude. I’ve never felt something like that before. And when you feel something like that and it feels so good, it’s. You got to hit it with gratitude. Because, I mean, my God, how many people kind of experience, you know? You know what I mean? You’ve been there.

Yep. And everything. Absolutely. Every single sculpture I make is an act of gratitude. So my whole galaxy. My whole galaxy is a galaxy based on gratitude. I made all of it just based on gratitude. Yeah, that’s. Roger Reynolds gave me that piece of acrylic that’s 20 inches in diameter and 6 inches thick. And. And that’s all carved out. That. That piece of acrylic weighed 100 pounds. It weighs 86 pounds or 84 pounds right now with all that carved out, the detail is incredible. You know what? Every time. You know what I would do? I’m gonna tell you my little secret.

I say, well, I’m gonna go for a walk. So I go out and I sit down and I start rotating my city And I go for a walk all through it. And that’s how I fix things. That’s why I have to go through. I had to go through walks in all of them, say, well now if I was there, how am I going to get down? So I got to put in a set of stairs. You know, it’s fun, it’s fun when you got all the tools to do it. Now that, that’s, that is the Mercedes Benz piece.

I made this piece for Mercedes Benz because I used to have a, a sawmill up in the middle part of the state because I had a contract in Guyana to get railroad ties out of the Demamar River. And it was all put together, it was a big contract, 200 million dollar a year contract for railroad ties. And I had the prime minister down there gave me permission. So we were working on getting that done. And then 9, 11 happened and that just blew all that out of the water. But anyway, I was coming home from there and I was bringing home some exotic wood.

All the bases on my sculptures are purple heart, thick purple heart. And it’s just a beautiful wood. And this illegal Mexican man, he just pulled right out in front of me. I just got my. I had an ML320. Remember Jurassic Park? When you saw Jurassic park and it showed that first time they exposed the ML320 and I went, oh my God, that’s Mercedes Benz truck. I love trucks. I went and got one and this guy pulled right out in front of me when I was at 45 miles an hour and he was only like 10, 15ft in front of me.

I ended up T bone and it totaled my Mercedes. And while I’m standing with the sheriff’s department and it’s out on a country road, they do it all the time out there. That’s a really beautiful piece. Now that piece and up top there, that’s what we call synthetic glass. It’s kind of a green tinted of acrylic. It’s a different formula, but it is acrylic. And it’s still, it’s still palatable. And you can breathe the fumes off of it while I’m carving it. I can’t use Mitsubishi acrylic. Mesa beach acrylic will kill you. It’s so toxic. I have a funny story about that too.

One of the. I’ll tell you about in a minute. Where was I before? There’s so many fun stories. I’ve had quite an interesting life. But that guy came out, T boned me. And I’m standing there talking to the Sheriff, and he’s looking at my truck and he’s going, man, you know what he said to me? He said, if you were in any other vehicle, you may have had a different outcome. And I stood back for a minute and I said, you know, even in this time where I was pissed, there, there’s the square piece. That’s how thick the aquarium window wall is when you’re deep underwater.

That’s 12 inches. Oh, wow. You’re displacing a million tons of water. It’s awesome. And that sheet that that came off of was 30ft long and 10 foot tall. And you should have seen the crane system they had to use to get it in there. It went into SeaWorld for Shamu. You know, there you go. That. This is emerald green acrylic. This is the rarest acrylic in the world. And they made columns. What’s called the Emerald Gardens at Arco Oil, and I think it’s Austin, Texas, Houston, Texas Oil is. They have. They had 20 columns that were made out of this emerald green acrylic.

And they come deep from underground, and they stand up about 18ft tall, and they’re lighted from underneath. God. Incredible. In all the plants. Oh, it is so gorgeous. It’s just. It’s almost spiritual to sit there and watch that and see these beautiful colors. Such big ray. And this one. This one I made for Elon Musk when he had his son X. I had that piece of acrylic, and I said, you know what? Anybody who can launch a rocket and land it back on a pad or put it on a hanger, it’s got to be the best in the world, period.

So I made him that piece for his son X. I made that in honor of the kid. I’m still trying to give it to him. He’s tough to get a hold of. That’s. That’s absolutely amazing art. And you. You. You’ve displayed this. You see the blue one? Yeah, I made that for Melania Trump. Okay. And that piece is what I call the underwater suites hotels. All the. All the living quarters are underwater. That’s. That blue water is one inch thick. So all the living quarters are underwater. And that got stolen out of a gallery in Jacksonville.

Oh, no. The police are hunting it down. It’s kind of hard to hide it, you know, and, you know, the way some of these criminals are, when. When they take the stuff, they don’t want to get rid of it. You know, they’re going to get caught with it. They don’t want to get rid of it. So that’s. That’s from your website. So if anybody wants to see that. Yeah. And you can see my posters, my shirts, and it’s growing. It’s growing. I’m getting ready to drop another poster now, which is going to be R20. That’s a piece I made in honor of Roger Reynolds.

And that’s the first one you showed. That was the. That piece has been around the world. That has gone around the world twice. And the Smithsonian on tour. And. Go ahead. You were gonna ask questions, so. Yeah. Do you think that you were motivated by the UFO experiences that you had? Oh, yeah. I’ll tell you why. That was not the first time I had an experience with him. I had experiences with him when I was a kid. Oh, wow. Yeah, they came right over the top of us. And I just looked at him and I went, oh.

I was more impressed with it than scared. Everybody else is, like, pissing their pants. I’m going, oh, this is. This is so cool. Thank you. I hope you’re good, guys. You know what I mean? Because if you’re not, I hope I have what I need to put a stop to you. So you’ve been doing this for quite some time. There’s all the way back to September 1977. Disney World. Yeah. Feature artist. They tried to steal my artwork and we had to steal it back. Geez. Oh, yeah, they’re. They’re a nightmare. They’re a nightmare to deal with.

And that whole Disney. You see the. You know, when you see the. The people taking the money for the tickets, they don’t come out of that room. They don’t come out of that room. They open that door behind them and they go down underground. That money never comes out to the surface. It goes underground. Okay, that’s big, massive city way out here. This is a. This time. That’s Tom with the X Files, one of the Lone Gunmen. And then that’s the other one over here on the right hand side. And that’s Richard her in the middle.

He was one of the admirals on Star Trek. I won my first Academy Award for Star Trek 4. Wow. You want to hear something funny? They never used it in Star Trek 4. And the footage we shot, I sold to Star Trek. I mean, Star Wars. Okay. I sold it to them. I got $15,000 a second for the commercial. That’s one of my favorite shots right there. I took that. Yeah, that is beautiful. The galaxy of Kondra Dawn. There’s no place in the galaxy. I kept that. I kept that. Look, you Know, when you do something like this, I don’t have a lot of people I can talk to.

So I figured I could talk to God all day long. He won’t mind. You know what I mean? That’s right. You know, and. And that’s where I spend a lot. All my time. I live alone. And if I got questions, I’ll sit down and ask God, because I know I’ve got, you know, you’ve got people protecting you, and I know I’ve got people protecting me. There’s so many times I should have been dead and I’m not. And it just went right by me. I go, oh, I’m protected. I’m fine. I’m not scared. Okay? It’s like, don’t be scared.

But anyway, I’ve had. I’ve had many experiences. I. I have. I didn’t have any. You didn’t want to talk about it. You didn’t want to talk about anything like that when you were in the Air Force, because, oh, my God, grab that guy. Grab that guy. You know, I mean, they get kind of crazy. So I just kept my mouth shut. Do you know who exposed me? Who exposed what we did on these missions? Who? Bill Cooper. Bill Cooper. Bill Cooper, huh? He was with ONI and Hawaii on the big islands. We were the ones that uncovered that they had.

They had a massive mothership in between the islands. Deep in the abyss. Yeah, I. I do shows with a guy that was really good friends with him, Juan O’Saven. And he speaks very highly of Bill Cooper. I love the guy. He was. You couldn’t have found a more honest man to do it, because he knew. He knew. I mean, they ran him off a cliff. They lost his leg. He ran him off a cliff. And I became such good friends with him. And I made such a mistake when I talked to 107 about him, because when I saw him 107 do that something called you’re called, you know, whatever it was called, and he goes, right.

Bill Cooper’s grave. And when I saw that grave, I just started crying because, oh, yeah, I had. I had to leave. I had to leave California and come home parents. And I don’t regret doing that. But then all of a sudden, I find out that they killed Bill. And I went, oh, that just. Well, they pissed me off. That really got me mad is I put together for Paul Fisher, the Fisher Pen Company. He brought me in so I could do the first conspiracy expo. And I had Eustace Mullins, Bill Cooper, Stanton Friedman. I had all these people Dr.

Linda Moulton Howe. All these people there for that convention. And I showed my artwork there just a little bit, and it was a lot of fun, but that was, that was my exposure to it all. And it was Bill Cooper that exposed me. And it was at JPL when I was there doing a show. He was a speaker and the place was packed, and he’s giving details. I’m going, how the hell does this guy know this stuff? You know? And there he was. He was talking about it. And I got to tell you something, between two people that were very important, actually three that were very important in my life, it was.

Was Videl Sassoon and Bill Cooper. And I. I don’t do secrets well, and I don’t think anybody does. And. And I became. I became an alcoholic. I drank and drank. I just thought that was what you do when you’re in pain, you know? And July 5, 1987, was the last day that ever occurred with me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But it was those guys that inspired me the most because I needed to stay alert. I. I couldn’t be fuzzy headed, you know, you lose all your tuition and all that kind of stuff when you’re alcohol, you know.

Anyway. Yeah. So now the, the President’s piece, for instance, when you see the piece as you go to the gallery, you go to the, the gallery on my website and you. Gift for the President. There’s a whole presentation there, and it’s a three minute video which shows you how I do it. And then it gives you dead on graphics of, of the actual piece. Let me, let me see if I can pull that one up. I just sent Tracy Jo a picture of the, the piece of acrylic that just arrived here at my house this morning.

And the next major piece I’m doing, and this is what it is, Buddy Q. Oh, nice. I’m gonna do a nice cue and, and get it ready. Go to the gallery. I made a guitar for Eddie Van Halen, and that’s in there too. But go to the gallery. It says gift to the President right at the very top. Just drop your cursor. Drop your little cursor down right there. Okay. Yeah. Let me see if we can get the sound going. That was actually a test video. That’s the reason why I was dressed. I was gonna put on a suit, but it went so well.

I built this sculpture for you for your birthday. On behalf of all the patriots in the United States that love you, vote for you, and care about you and what you’re doing for our wonderful country. I’m going to show you. This is an acrylic submarine window. God, that thing is heavy. Made by Reynolds polymer in America, the best acrylic company in the world. Everything you see has been removed. So now I’ll show you the top. Now let’s take a look. Happy birthday, Mr. President. Wow. That took two and a half years. When my parents. That’s the reason why I came home.

My parents got ill, and I took care of them. And originally, that piece I was making for Fox News because I really liked Fox News at the time, right? My dad and I would really sit back. That’s the only time I could connect with my dad. Would sit around and watch Fox News. That was okay. It was good. I mean, time spent with my father. You know what I mean? I mean, I. I like Fox News, but I’m gonna tell you something. The very minute that they called it for Biden, I said, okay, you bastards, if that’s how you’re gonna play.

And I went out. I had to make a decision because that’s a very expensive piece of acrylic, and it’s a lot of work. And it had the Fox News, and I got pictures of it to show you the Fox News Channel, you know, and it’s like I went, oh, my God. So I went. I made a stencil for 45 out of cardboard, and I cut it out, and I went over and flipped it. I made it to where I could center it on the piece, and I flipped it and moved it around. I said, you know what? Here it is.

And I marked it. I grabbed out my. Cutting my routers and stuff, and my special equipment just started. Started hogging away on it. And I carved that 45 in there. So the bottom line is, is when they gave it to Biden, I gave the sculpture to Trump. That’s beautiful. Good move. I gave it to him because he. He’s the one that actually won. We all know it. And I said, if that’s the way you want to play. Took a. Play that game. So I turned Fox News into a farm. Anytime that I really want to destroy something for somebody, just make them into a farm, just level it.

Because remember, you can’t go down. You can only go up. So you’re. You’re. You’re drilling into this from right and creating that front. It’s kind of like inverse. So, man, that must take a lot of the way your mind works. So you’re. That’s. That’s kind of. Kind of interesting because you said your. Your mind works backwards. So this, that’s how you can do this work. I’m dyslexic. Yeah. That’s why it’s very difficult for me to read. Okay. Incredible. And. But I’ll tell you what. I’ll tell you what I’m going to do. If. If you’d like, I’d like to walk your.

All your people when I’m drilling. I’ll put together sections of me drilling on the acrylic and explaining how I’m doing it, why. Oh, that’d be awesome. So you can see it. Okay. Because one of my goals is to do major shows. I wanna, I wanna support a lot of the. A lot of the. There’s a lot of good people that come out of this nightmare called COVID 19. There’s a lot of good people that have really just pulled up there, grabbed their big man shorts and put them on and have stepped right, right out in front and, you know, some of them really taking heat for it.

But by God, I stand behind him 100. And, you know, you know, because we gave our president a mandate. We gave him a mandate, all right? He’s there now. He gave us. We got to change things. We have to do. We have to rebuild our communities. We have to rebuild our whole society because what they weed out all the doo doo that’s running around with dresses on and coats on, okay? Claiming that they’re humanoid, you know, and once they get all that straightened out, then we have a chance. But I, I’ve been, I’ve been monitoring a guy named Richard Mack.

You know who he is? I love the Mac. I just sent him a letter of intent. Oh, good. I be. And I’ll tell you why we cannot build. I do not believe we can build our communities back unless we have an outstanding family type relationship with our sheriff’s department. But they’ve all got to be honest and they’ve all got to be constitutional. And I believe that. I believe 100. So I’m gonna start doing shows for them and start sharing the graphic sales for them, period. I want to support them. We can’t do it without them. And I want to start putting on conferences for that whole purpose because, you know, it’s hard.

It’s almost like there’s no more controversy. We already know who’s guilty and what’s all going on. So now we got to change things. We have to have to be motivated enough to move around and be flexible enough to move towards a direction of conclusion instead of, you know, just waiting for somebody to hang. A lot of Them have been hanged already and they just, I mean, you know, I mean, what did they do, fall short on the funds to keep the hologram going on the Pope? I think they did. I think they did. Okay, it’s time for you to go.

We’re have to let you go now. Of course. Been gone for a while, but. Yeah, now, now we’re going to make it public. Yeah. We don’t need you anymore. Turn on the lights. That’s it. But that was, that was very interesting, that J.D. vance on the. The day before he passed. And of course it’s his fault he’s gone. Maybe it is. He’s a miracle worker. I’ll vote for J.D. vance. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I tell you, some of the funniest things I’ve seen it. I think I sent you the one where it shows Pope in the chair of the.

Where the, where the pontiff used to sit. Yeah. It just smells. The smoke coming out of the chimney’s orange. Yeah, he just did one where he was dressed as a pope. Yeah, it’s perfect. Yeah. Coming out is orange. And then the other one, I was J.D. vance next to the President with a makeup brush and a bag of Doritos. Whoever did that, it really has a sense of humor. Yeah, that was a good one. You know, we gotta laugh, man. We gotta start laughing again. I think 90 of us are suffering from PTSD. Probably. Yeah, probably.

You know, it’s like in, in God’s world, there’s a thing that’s very dangerous and a lot of preachers are, are, are, are. Are accused of it. It’s called hope deferred. When you give somebody hope and all of a sudden it changes at the last second and goes in another direction. All that energy that was put into that hope is, is turns negative and it makes a vacuum in, in someone’s heart. Okay. It’s just. It’s terrible. It’s terrible. It’s terrible. Hope deferred is a bad thing. I agree. And we’re, we’re getting closer and closer to disclosure. And I can’t wait for the people to finally hear the speech that John F.

Kennedy was going to read that day he was murdered. Oh, yeah, definitely. Your mind, it’s gonna blow. Where he talks about how there was, you know, another race of beings that were very advanced. Yep. Yeah. What are you going to do when you find out that Earth is just a satellite on the outer rim and there’s like 10, 15 different entities living here on this planet inside and out? Yeah. You know, people ask me, have I met him. I go, yeah, I have. I know I have, but I didn’t ask them if they were. You didn’t need to.

You don’t need to. When they disappear in front of you, they go through a door, and you go, wait a minute. Stay right there. You go in, and there’s nothing but hallways as long as you can see, and there’s nobody there. And you’re looking all around going, okay, okay. That’s another one, Mark. That one. It’s phenomenal. But, you know, I mean, I, I. I did a show in. In. In. In. In Arizona, in Scottsdale. And S2 is right there at Scottsdale, Arizona. There’s a whole underground facility right there at S2. And there was a whole people.

And you know what? I couldn’t swear to you that they were extraterrestrials, but they were different. They were different in mannerisms, and they were different in the level of kindness that just came off of them. Oh, wow. I love those kind of people. Definitely. Yeah. Anybody without a machete is fine for me feeling, you know? Yeah. So. All right, Richard. Well, thanks. Thanks for. Thanks for coming on and sharing your work. It’s absolutely incredible. Yeah, that’d be. That’d be great. We can get you back on. And you’re actually doing some of your work. Artwork. Yeah. And I’d love to tell more stories about what encounters that I’ve had with people in the artwork.

Okay. Yeah, definitely. There’s. There’s some phenomenal stories, especially with Al Bilik. You know, you got another second? I’ll tell you about it. I was doing a show, okay. Same place where Bill Cooper was at JPL, and they had my friend Ed McCabe brought in this older man, and he’s standing there looking at my artwork, and he goes. He buckles over crying. I go, what the hell happened? Somebody punched this guy. What happened? I had my back to him. I didn’t see what was going on. And he’s crying, and I’m talking hard cry. And Ed says, well, we got a problem.

He’s the next speaker. So I looked at the concierge, and I said, ask her. Would you give me a bottle of water, please? And I handed him a bottle of water, and. And he’s looking at me, and he said, you do this. And he started asking me all kinds of cosmic questions and stuff. I said, we’ll. We’ll talk about that. I understand. You got to get ready for your talk. He said, yeah. So he grabbed me by the arm and he walked. We walked down the Hallway, and we enter in stage left, and he says, you go down there to the end at that door, because that’s where your exhibit is.

He goes up on stage, and he says, I’m sorry. I’m so distraught. He says, but for the first time in so long, I saw the cities that I saw when I was lost in the vortex of time. And that artist out there, I don’t know what he’s doing, but there they are. Wow. You know who he was? He was Al Bilich, the last remaining survivor off the Philadelphia experiment. Oh, my God. At that moment, I knew that I was. What I was getting was cosmic and that it had a benefit for everybody. And I want to put it together, and I want to put us all together and help bring us all together in a different world.

That’s beautiful. We got to do it. And I’m gonna tell you something. You’re one of the people I listen to a lot, you know, and I have great respect for you because, number one, you’re an operator, and I love getting the real news from an operator, because you’re going to tell them, everybody, good news and bad news, what it’s going to be like. Okay. And I can deal with that. I can’t deal with this. Oh, everything’s just going to be just fine. Everything’s going to be just fine. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It’s crazy.

But, hey, I’d love to come back anytime. And I’ve got some wonderful stories about when the Smithsonian took the p. World tour. 37 countries, and the response that I got. All those countries. This was fun. Wow. And I never get tired of watching people looking at the art. They don’t even know who I am, and I’m just standing off to the side watching them. That’s why I do it. I can reach in and touch your heart and your brain at the same time, I think, together. Okay. Yeah. That’s the kind of response I got when I looked at it.

It was. It was pretty amazing. Something I want to learn from you, though. And that’s remote viewing. Oh, yeah. I got a lost animal I need to find. All right, well, we can. We can trade off. Definitely. Absolutely. All right, you guys got something coming. It’s going to blow your mind. Definitely. All right, Richard, thanks. Thanks again. And we. We had. We. That was a great experience meeting you and seeing your work, and I. I’m glad we got to share it here and love to have you back and give us, like, a demonstration how you do your work.

So that’s that’s pretty incredible. Yeah. I’m gonna do this. I’m gonna set up to where I can do that and. And film it in little sections. So, like, I wanted to do that and do the little YouTube shorts, you know? Yeah, yeah. But whenever someone makes something and they said, meet me, I go, no, here. You meet me here. And I sent him a picture of the artwork. I go, see you there at 8. Like, how you gonna get there? Yeah, definitely. All right, thanks a lot. And thanks. Everybody crying, right? Yep. We’ll see you guys next time.

You bet, man. Love you, buddy. And take. Give Tracy my best. I will. Thank you. What a great woman. Great.
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