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Summary
➡ The speaker is the co-founder and president of Citizens Council for Health Freedom, a nurse by training, who started the organization to protect patient and doctor freedom. She believes that the healthcare system has become more of a business, controlled by corporations and the government, which has led to a decrease in the quality of care. She criticizes the current system for prioritizing profits over patient care and for mechanizing a process that should be more personalized. Her organization is working on creating a “wedge” of healthcare that is free and independent, where doctors and patients can escape from the restrictions of the current system.
➡ The article discusses a healthcare system called ‘the wedge’ where doctors only accept cash payments, avoiding government, health plan, or insurance payments. This system protects patient confidentiality as it prevents third-party entities from accessing medical records. The article also mentions the Surgery Center of Oklahoma, which operates on a cash basis, offering surgeries at significantly lower prices. The author suggests that paying out-of-pocket can be more financially beneficial for patients, except in cases of catastrophic conditions.
➡ The article discusses the problems with the current healthcare system, including the lack of real health insurance and the impersonal treatment of patients. It suggests an alternative system that focuses on catastrophic and insurable events, with patients paying for everyday medical expenses in cash. The article also criticizes the lack of proper discharge instructions for patients and the shift of healthcare from a mission to a business. Lastly, it introduces a new product that triggers the body to regulate its vitamin levels and other functions.
➡ The Real ID, issued by states but under federal control, is essentially a national ID. It was passed by Congress in 2005 without public debate. Despite initial resistance from states due to privacy and constitutional concerns, all states now issue Real IDs. There are concerns that these IDs could be linked to personal data, including financial records and social media activity, raising privacy issues.
➡ The text discusses the potential implications of the Real ID, a digital identification system. The Real ID could be used for every transaction in life, from buying goods to accessing healthcare. The concern is that this system could be used to control and surveil citizens, potentially leading to a social credit system in America. The Real ID could also be linked to biometric data, such as facial scans or fingerprints, raising further privacy concerns.
➡ The text discusses the option to refuse a Real ID and instead opt for a standard state driver’s license in 45 states. This can be done by simply requesting it, although this option is not widely advertised. The text encourages people to visit refuse realid.org for instructions on how to switch back to a standard license. It also mentions concerns about the COVID vaccine, citing reports of health issues and a study suggesting the vaccine’s spike protein may remain in the body for a long time.
➡ The text discusses concerns about the handling of the COVID-19 situation, particularly the vaccination process. The author questions why certain issues aren’t being addressed, such as the potential side effects of the vaccine and the lack of support for those affected. They also express distrust in the government and pharmaceutical companies, suggesting that there may be hidden agendas at play. The author encourages people to question information from the government and to do their own research.
➡ The text discusses the importance of people taking control of their lives and not giving too much power to the government. It emphasizes that we should remember that we are a government of the people, not just of Trump, Congress, or state legislatures. The speaker also mentions their websites, which include CCH freedom.org, refuserealid.org, and jointhewedge.com, and thanks the host for the conversation.
Transcript
Lots of people have refused. Quick break from the program to share with you something amazing. This is called sloop. It’s actually slupp332 but been shortened to Sloop. And this thing mimics exercise. It seems too good to be true. I first shared this on my substack and I had Dr. Diane Kaser and we went through all the benefits of this and the whole thing sold out. You can’t get it anywhere really across the industry. And the people who are using it the most are athletes and bodybuilders and people who want to see extra performance in athletics. Because this in preclinical studies with mice increased their endurance by 70% and their distance by 45%.
I mean, it’s incredible. And it’s been shown to mimic exercise even when you’re at rest. In preclinical studies with obese mice, they lost upwards of 12% of their body weight in four weeks and it increased muscle. So this is really taking the industry by storm. It’s actually not that expensive either. With my 10% coupon, it’s about $80 for maybe a two month supply. If you take one capsule a day. If you decide to up it to two capsules a day because your dosage depends on what you want, then it’s a one month supply. But Dr. Diane recommends doing one capsule a day until your body gets used to it.
You might not see the same level of results right away that the mice did, but your body can get used to it and see if it’s something that you really want to do. If you are interested in this, I will have a link below so you can try it yourself or go to sarah westall.com under shop. Remember to use the code Sarah to save 10%. Welcome to Business game changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have Twyla Braise coming to the program. She came on my show many years ago and she’s the reason why I switched what I was doing for healthcare.
But she was back then, I remember she was rated one of the top, when you look at lists, one of the most powerful people in healthcare because she really made a difference and pushed back against these people. She’s into freedom, she’s into high. How do we get out from under this control grid and take back our health? And she’s been working on creating this wedge. It’s called the wedge and it’s a cash based system of using doctors and even surgery where you save a significant amount of money but you get out from underneath these healthc care plans.
And she’s going to explain it, but we’re going to talk also about, she reached out to me, she wanted to talk about the digital id, the real id, and inform people, you know, I’ve been talking about this for a long time, but inform people what specifically they plan on doing. So this is a really great conversation where we talk about in detail what they plan on doing and how you can get yourself out of it or at least push back against it and protect yourself and how it’s just moving forward at breakneck speed. And she talks about the legislation behind it and then she also talks about Kristy Gnome, how she’s helping to push this in, what the heck is going on there.
And then we talk about the MRNA vaccine and the disappointing legislation that’s came out there. She’s a dynamo. She’s very experienced and informed in this whole health freedom area and probably more than anybody, I mean more than almost anybody. There’s other people too. I don’t want to say she’s the only one. There’s a lot of people who’ve devoted their life, a lot of people have seen it firsthand or they’ve had a loved one who’s died and, and then they learn a whole bunch and then they come, become very passionate about it and then they, they know firsthand what the heck is going on and they’ve been fighting it for years and so that’s why they’re so disappointed with what’s happening in, you know, with the Maha movement and with these things that are going down.
So we’re going to talk about all of that. I think you really appreciate this conversation. She has different websites where you can go learn about her organization, you can learn about the wedge movement, you can learn how to get out of the digital id. I’ll have links to all of her websites below. Before I get into that, I want to remind you about the peptides that I have, I have been working on getting out the news about how great these peptides are. I have Been using it since January. I’ve lost like £25. I feel great. My energy is better.
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And now I want to tackle my stress and my energy and you know, my hair during COVID my hair was falling out and now, you know, that’s all getting better. I mean there’s just so many good things that are going on. If you. Most people are suffering with being overweight, right? It just, it. We want what 70% of people are overweight now. If you are somebody who’s really struggling. This stuff where it’s the most. It’s a no brainer. It’s the most powerful stuff. I’ve ever. These peptides. I’ve been using Retrutide and I’ve been cycling 5Amino One MQ to make sure I keep lean muscle mass and Sloop which Sloop is an exercise mimicker.
I’ve been cycling those two now the two that want five amino MQ and the Sloop to keep muscle lean energy or lean muscle mass. Those also reduce fat. And I’ve been using Retruti because not only is it the most powerful GLP1 on the market, period. It’s also safer because it’s just the peptide but it also is the best for appetite suppressant but also maintaining lean muscle. And so as you get older you want to do all those. Right? Right. Very powerful. That’s why I mean it’s a. No. I. Anybody that does this will lose weight. I’m telling you.
It’s. It’s not one of those things that you get and maybe your body will work. This has been an amazing success story. People after people. Everybody is. Is having an. An incredibly successful effective ability to get their weight off. And you might not want to use Reddit. Your. You could just use sloop and 5amino MQ. You could cycle between those because those are very effective too. I will have links below to both of those. Go to sarahwestall.com under shop and you’ll find it. Remember to use the coupon code Sarah to save 10%. Okay, let’s get into my really informative, really good conversation with Twyla Bra.
Hi Twyla, welcome back to the program. Oh, it’s great to be here. Thanks Sarah. Well, I remember when I first had you on the program and you were just a fire, you know, you were just on fire and you all, you are still and, and back then you were considered one of the most powerful. You were rated in the top 100 most powerful people in health care. And I, you know, you’ve been like that for a while and I think when you share stuff, people listen and I think that’s what’s made you so effective over the years.
And you, we were talking about having you come back on and talk about not only the latest developments that’s going on in healthcare, but also the digital id, the truth behind what the digital ID can track when it comes to healthcare. I’ve been sharing a lot of this stuff, you know and I, I’ve done some articles on it and things on just how much the digital ID can track. But what I don’t know other than through NSA whistleblowers and people I’ve talked to over the years is what data they really have access to. Because if you have access to it, you can do whatever you want and you are an expert at this research of understand what actually they have research into but before data what actually they have access to.
But before we really get into this, can you talk just so people get an idea what it is that you’re working on now and some of your background and then I want to dive into that digital ID stuff. I see. Yeah. So Citizens Council for Health Freedom is the organization that I am co founder and president of. I am a nurse by training, so I was a pediatric emergency room nurse, saved lots of children, older and itsy bitsy babies and then became a school nurse for better hours and then started this organization. When I saw that the Clintons wanted to take over the health care system, put us all into HMOs and run it at the federal level.
And, and so I have been doing this for 30 years and our organization, Citizens Council for Health Freedom has been doing this for 27 years. I had a precursor organization so, so yes I’m the co founder and really pass passionate about our mission which is to protect patient and Dr. Freedom. And really what that means is the right of the patient and the doctor to work together for the benefit of the patient, not the government, not the health plans, right, for the benefit of the patient. And to do it affordably, confidentially and without outside interference. So no outside interference, which makes it affordable.
It’s all those outside interferers, all those third parties that make it unaffordable, make it it, you know, like a business. And so one of the things I think that your people might understand is that we say that the mission of medicine has been taken over by the business of health care. And I think you can feel that in the exam room, you know, you can feel that five minute conversations with a doctor. You can feel that when they tell you you can’t have a doctor, right? Or when they say, yeah, we don’t have any appointment until, you know, four months from now, you know, all of that just shows you how much it is a business.
And the people have coverage that doesn’t cover and they don’t have real health insurance. They’ve got the corporate version of socialized medicine, which is the health plan. And the health plan was put in place by Ted Kennedy and then pushed by Hillary and then put into place, really finalized by Obama under the Affordable Care Act. So everybody has to have a qualified health plan now. But it just means that these entities, these corporations, they control the dollars, the data, the decisions and the doctors. And so when I say the mission has been taken over by the business, you know, I think you know what I mean.
Well, exactly know what you mean, because I, you know, I taught at the Carlson School of Business and one of the things that I taught there is the structure of business and how much you have control over the process of the business, depending on the type of business it is. So if it is a highly, the processes is very mechanized and doesn’t change much. You want a very structured process when it’s more creative and you know, when you have more artists and creativity involved, you don’t want a structured process because then you will suppress them and they won’t function properly.
What I think is happening in this arena is they’ve taken a position that actually is more creative than they realize. Because science is not black and white. It depends on who the person is. It depends on all these things. And they’ve shoved it into a process that’s not right for the business model. And they’re doing it for the sake of, of profits. And it’s killing the customer. The who is the client. And it’s actually killing the practitioners too. They’re dying on the vine. And it’s because it’s all set up wrong for what this is. That’s my contention.
Yeah. So the takeover, really, you know, the takeover has been facilitated by the government and by Congress. I wrote an article called blame Congress for HMOs and just talked about how this all happened, how Ted Kennedy and actually there’s a Minnesota connection, apparently. Apparently. I think it was Paul Elwood who got into a plane back in the 1970s, got into a plane with the key policy, health policy guy of President Nixon. And so all the way to Washington D.C. from Minneapolis, Paul Elwood, who was the Chief proponent of HMOs, talked to Nixon’s guy. And by the time it was all over, Nixon’s guy was sure that this was the way, this was the way we’ll install HMOs now called Health plans.
And that will solve the problems of healthcare, the cost problems, the, you know, the, the doctor problems, whatever problems. Right. The access problems. Right. And so then, you know, within a year or two, or maybe even at that same time, Nixon had 12 pilot projects of HMOs around the country that he funded. And then it was the HMO Act, Ted Kennedy, and they were supporting that together. So, you know, that’s where we are and that’s why we’re here. Well, and to be fair, some of that, you know, if you take parts of those ideas and you apply it, it can be beneficial for people.
It’s the fact of how it’s been now. They’ve took it, taken it to such a degree that doctors don’t have, can’t, can’t use their expertise anymore. They, they’re put into like these six minute time schedules with their client, with their patient. And, and then there’s other people making decisions on what you can give your patients based on what makes the most amount of money. So they’ve divorced healthcare from the business like you’re saying. So and if they wouldn’t have done that, if they would have done some of these things to enhance it, it versus take it over, it would have been a different story.
Well, and the thing is, you know, you say if they would have done it. Right, but they is the government. And the government doesn’t belong in healthcare, period. I agree. I, but so maybe they, maybe it should have been if, well, a clinic, a hospital clinic is a business. So if the hospital clinics and you have solutions, you guys have been working on this stuff, solutions of exactly what I’m talking about. So what have you been working on to do what I’m talking about without the government involved? Because the government then becomes, they’re so divorced from what’s good for people.
Right. And they have their own agenda. Right. They’ve got their own political agenda, their own bureaucracy building agenda. They’ve got a lot of different agendas. Right. Their DEI agenda, which is just killing, that’s just killing the, the medical profession. I just want to say something about that and then I’ll just go to those solutions because I think people don’t. That the medical schools have prioritized DEI over excellence and over intelligence and over what you need to actually be a doctor. I’m a nurse, right. So I, I have, I have practiced with lots of physicians and they need a lot of information in order to actually look at the patient.
And the patient’s a puzzle because every patient isn’t the same. And we, we can’t. The whole business of healthcare now is looking at every patient as though they’re the same. And you just put them in a box, you just give them the same food, give them the, give them the same everything and they’ll come out fine. But that’s not medicine. Right. And so now the medical schools are prioritizing the color, the sex, whatever. Right. The DEI agenda in order to decide who gets to be in medical school. And so now they have started doing pass fail grading in the medical schools so that you cannot tell how bad it is in the medical school.
And remember, these are the people who are. We’re going to need to take care of us when we have a heart attack, when we’ve got a mysterious disease, when we’ve got cancer, when we’ve got a terrible injury. Right. And you want excellence. You want critical thinking, you want people who are just dedicated and they can think through your body and what is going on with your body. But that’s why, that’s why I was saying you can’t mechanize this. You can’t put this into a brainless process. But they are, I know that’s. They are mechanizing it. Right.
And so freedom from the mechanizing organization is part of what we are doing as an organization. So we have the wedge of health freedom. And we called it the wedge because at the point when we started it, we said whatever this circle of health care is, we need a wedge, a piece of it that is free and independent. That when the health plans and when the government say no, the doctors and the patients can escape into this wedge of free freedom. Which is what you got me into years ago. Yeah, I changed everything we did based on your recommendations.
And so that’s. Yeah. Anyways, keep going. Yeah. And so so we’re building the wedge and we’ve got practices all over the country and we don’t own it. And, and it’s free for patients, free for doctors. You go to jointhewedge.com and look for a doctor that is in your neck of the woods. Right. Or if you’re a doctor, you go on and you just put your practice on then hope that people will find you on there. And twice a month we advertise it using our Health Freedom Minute, which we do the Health Freedom Minute Monday through Friday every.
Every every weekday, right? No, Monday through Friday every week. And so, so twice a month we just let people know that there’s this thing called the wedge. And you can go find a doctor who works for you by going there and finding one. But in the wedge everything is by casting cash. It’s all by cash. So there’s no government payment, there’s no health plan payment, there’s no insurance payment. The doctors only take cash. And we have a really bright line. And the reason we have a bright line is because if they take even one health plan patient, even one insurance patient, even one Medicare patient or Medicaid and they receive money from those entities, those entities require access to every medical record in their practice.
Wow. So we cannot say that these doctors can keep their practice, their, the confidentiality of their patients medical records because of the mandates of the payers. And see, that’s what people need to understand. So they can we say that there’s pair. I know in telecom they had parallel systems. Right. In medicine, I know in banking they do too. Yeah. And you’re saying that anybody that’s involved, they have access to all them of. Of it. Yes. So if they. So that’s why we’re setting up a parallel system. It’s a cash based system. The wedge is part of that system.
And eventually we want to figure out how to have cash based hospitals. Now for your listeners, I can just imagine them going, well, okay, if you’ve got a million dollars, maybe you can have a cash based hospital. But that’s not actually true. And you can look at the surgery center of Oklahoma and then the surgery center of Oklahoma. My it’s all cash, all surgery. And the first people to come were Canadians. The second people were that came to them were the uninsured all around the country, this country of America. Right. Because their prices are 50 to 90% less because they take cash.
They don’t have to do all of that third party administrative. Right? Yes. Yeah. Right. And so patients come, doctors come, doctors Take care of patients. The doctor gets a check, leaves the door, and the patient has whatever the follow up is, you know, all figured out. And oftentimes the prices sometimes includes the physical therapy that they will get back at their hometown. The surgery center will call up their physical therapy in whatever state it is and say, can I wrap this price into the price that I will charge? And then we’ll make it just one big package deal.
Or it might include the hotel. If you go down to Oklahoma City, it might include the hotel because of some of the arrangements that they have. So you should never think that the price of today should be the price or can’t be the price. Sorry. You should never think that the price of today must be the price of tomorrow. That’s really amazing because they mark stuff up like incredible amount, right? Because there was a. Somebody got hold of me and asked me about one of these peptides for weight loss, and it was for somebody that had a specific genetic issue with obesity.
And I said, well, and I showed her all the trial stuff and I sent it to her and I said, I don’t know if this is you, but the actual hospitals that use it to buy the peptides through the company, I use limitless, it’s like 60 bucks a month. But that, but the people, the clinics, they’re charging like $300,000 for this treatment of this. And I was like floored once I looked into it. Well, they’re counting on the fact that they, that people don’t know that people depend on their insurance. And. But today you’ve got huge deductibles that have to pay up front.
You should be shopping. Actually, people should think about the fact that if they paid out of pocket rather than through the insurance company, they’re likely never, they’re likely never with their insurance company unless they have a car crash or a coma or cancer or something where they will tap in, you know, after their deductible. So why not pay less rather than paying, let’s just say $3,000 for peptides. I’m just picking these now numbers out of the air, right? Pay $60 a month, right. Rather than 3,000 for a treatment. And at the end of the day, you’re probably going to end up with less out of your pocket.
The only risk with that is that you’ll have one of these catastrophic conditions which are rare. And then you’ll have to, you’ll have to pay that because then now you’ll have to pay the whole thing up to that point. So before that you can tap into your insurance. But for the most part, if people don’t use their insurance and pay cash, they’re probably in a better financial situation. Situation than paying that. Yeah, that’s what my husband’s right now arguing with because he’s, he got all of a sudden enrolled into this system. He’s even fighting it non stop.
But he’s so frustrated. But because that happens too, right. They automatically somebody goes, I don’t even know how I got enrolled in this thing. Right, right. To get himself out of it. Yeah. So we were talking before we started about how, you know, I, I’m a systems engineer background, so I audited automate. You know, that’s what I’ve done is I’ve helped people automate entire processes. And so automating the medical profession, automating what, what doctors do and that’s what they’re moving towards really is automating their entire job. Like you can do that. But it gets away from what we were talking about of it’s really almost an art form and you really have to be able to think through it and understand for maybe 90, 80% of the, the people and situations.
Yeah, it probably could be. But for anything that’s more difficult, you. Automation is not. That should be a tool, not something. And so from my perspective with my background, I’m like, God, we’re going to enter into literally a hellscape. I’m honestly, if you’re one of those that have a serious issue if it’s used as a tool, it would be beautiful because now you have access to everything and you could really tailor things and you can really think through it and it could be beautiful. Beautiful. If it’s automated based on business reasons, it would literally be a hellscape.
Yeah. I think what people don’t understand is that move to automation is coming. If they, if they thought about it, they could see pieces of it. So the move to the electronic health record. Right. And the electronic health record where the hospital or the health plans together with the hospital, the government with the hospital and the health plan, whatever. Right. All together they decide what will be available to you, what is even available for the doctor to order. So there could be a gazillion things the doctor could order. But because they have automated it and they’ve created a menu, this is the list.
And if you want to order something else for your patient, it’s just going to be difficult. And a doctor who is only given five minutes to see you does not want to deal with difficult. So one of the Things that you can see that the hospitals are doing. Doing, and some of the clinics and some of the bigger systems are doing. They’re moving away from physicians. I just want, I just want your people to hear that they’re moving away from physicians. The only ones with medical training, all the healthcare facilities are moving away from physicians. They’re moving into nursing practice.
Whether you call that a nurse practitioner or you call that a physician assistant who has perhaps more technical skills and other skills than the nurse practitioner, but still is not a physician, is nowhere close to a physician, and then depending on the NP and the PA to look at the protocols in the computer and simply follow what the computer does well. And I remember I went to go figure out a thing. This was years ago when they. And I got. Went to one of those people, bless her heart, you know, she was a good person, but she could not answer my questions.
So somebody like me, who’s gonna dive into more. She couldn’t answer my question. She had no idea. She was just reading off the freaking sheet. I couldn’t be frustrated. I couldn’t get out of there soon enough. Yeah, but that’s what we’re going to end up having, isn’t it? No, because we’re going to, we’re going to stop this whole. No, you. Yeah, you’re going to stop it. But I mean, if we don’t stop it, that’s. That’s where we’re going to. Yeah, yeah. And I have, you know, decided as head of the organization. Right. I’ve really decided that the system that we have today, the system to up today, is going to keep on until it implodes of its own.
Either the fact that it’s going to be sued because there was no real medical expertise in the case, or because patients leave it. I have decided that Obamacare and this current system, it can’t really be fixed. And I think that Obamacare will never be repealed. But I think we can empty it of its power. We can take away the control it has over doctors and hospitals and clinics and patients, but it’s going to sit there as a law. Right. It’s kind of a waste of money, I think, to get to try to repeal it. And so beginning, you know, creating this alternative system where you have, where you rescue the doctors from employment and bring them back to where they can have joy again in their practice.
That’s right. And where you get back to real health insurance. So this is part of the problem. We don’t have real health insurance. So I said that the health plans Are the, are the corporate version of socialized medicine. Listen, we don’t have real health insurance and the Affordable Care act says you can’t have real health insurance. So this is the one thing that we are working in D.C. to change. So we’ve got a bill that we call make health insurance real again. And by real it means that it covers only catastrophic and insurable events. It doesn’t cover well, baby, it doesn’t cover even a broken wrist or a pinky.
You can handle that on your own. It has a deductible of maybe, maybe 5 or 10,000. Some people would even go up to $15,000 according to their financial capacity. Right. It costs very little. So I was just talking to this one guy who before Obamacare he paid $66 a month and had a fifteen hundred dollar deductible. And you don’t tap into it unless you get hit by a bus or something, right? That’s exactly right. You never tap into it unless it is a catastrophic traffic or insurable condition. And by that I mean you could have it, you could have a really bad case of diabetes, for example, a chronic condition.
And you’re really, it’s not easy, maybe it’s not easy to control your diabetes. Maybe you need machines, maybe you actually have to have your foot cut off because it’s so hard to control. You know, then those kind of things are insurable. They’re chronic, but they’re insurable. Catastrophes are like, like wow, you’re just, you got cancer and boom, you suddenly have to be hospitalized and you have to have all this medication or, or your, your comatose from a car crash. You know, the difference between insurable and catastrophic can just be that a chronic condition is so expensive and for some people it is a genetic condition that they, they, you know, they’re born with, right? Y and it’s not catastrophic in the idea of, you know, something unexpectedly happens to you.
It’s just something you’re going to have to live with all your life. So financially it will be catastrophic to you. And so it’s got to be insurable. But you know, most of the, most of the things that happen to us every day, they are not catastrophic and they are not an insurable event. They are easily paid for in cash when you have real insurance and everything goes to a cash base. So the parallel system, the wedge is all cash cash. And it is both fee for service cash, which means you’ve got a whole list. You walk in and literally on the wall is a list of all the prices for everything possible that you could be paying for in the clinic.
Fee for service. Or it is direct primary care, which means you pay either monthly, quarterly, or yearly for an entire set of services, which could mean that you can text your doctor any time of the day. Your doctor will open their clinic on a Saturday to see you, because you can come Monday through Friday. It’s more like what they used to be, right? It’s getting back to the doctor who actually provides health care, and they have way more freedom to do what they need time. And they give you a thorough history and a thorough physical, and they actually touch you.
So I was just giving a speech in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, and one of the questions I said was, so what’s the worst thing about healthcare today? And this woman pipes up right away. She pipes up, she goes, they don’t touch me anymore. And they don’t look at me me. They’re just looking at their computer. They don’t look at me. That’s even. They don’t look at me, right? And then you’re. You are just a number, right? And another person piped up. And I was so thankful for it because it is just something I’m just perturbed about as a nurse.
And he said, you know, they don’t. They don’t tell me what to do when I leave. I said, that’s right. For the most part, they’re not giving discharge instructions. And when I, in the emergency room gave discharge instructions, instructions, it was on a sheet of paper. I’d written certain things out. I took it to them and I handed to them. No, I didn’t hand it to them. I said, these are your discharge instructions. You need to do X, Y, Z. You know, A, B, C. Here it is all written. Now tell me, do you have any questions? Yeah.
Make sure they know what they’re going to do because they’re not experts outside why they came to you. I had Diane Kaser on my show. She’s a holistic practitioner. And she said her father. Father went to the emergency room and they told him that he almost died. He was very. And then they let him go, and they don’t know why. She goes, that’s not good enough. You’re not gonna let you know he almost died, and you tell him to go and you don’t give him anything and you don’t know why. So it’s a business. Think so, yeah.
It’s not a mission, right? It is a mission, but they’ve. They’ve made it into a business. So do you actually Dare to send somebody out of the emergency room without proper instructions. Contact information. The next visit that they need to have, knowing what the condition is that they actually have. So they could look at it. Right. You have not. Will it happen again? You almost died and we don’t know why. See you later. Is it just gonna randomly happen again? I don’t know. And if they told him and he had dementia or whatever. Right. Well, it should be written down so somebody can help.
They have, they have not done their due diligence. They have not actually completed the visit unless they. That the person knows what they have to do afterwards. They’ve just been completely, I don’t know, lazy. I. I don’t even. I don’t. I don’t even know. It’s just wrong. It’s. It’s just so bad. It’s so bad. Okay, well, I’m glad we got. We talked about this, but let’s talk about. Because it’s super important and people can. I’ll have the links below. Otherwise, what’s the. The organization or what’s the website for this so that people can learn more. Might as well get that jointhe wedge.com for the wedge.
Our organization is cch freedom.com. okay, I’ll have all the links below and we’ll say that again at the end. But I want to talk about the digital id. What? So people understand the data that they have access to. I mean, this is not something that is just trivial. You know, they have the bank, they have the parallel systems in telecom and in banking, they have access to everything. When you’re watching an FBI show and they show them tapping into this stuff, it’s real. They’re not making it up. They got that information from actual consultants in the FBI.
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We can talk about any, either one because in general role, depending on where they go, they can, if the government is behind it, they can get access to this. But go ahead and explain the detail. Yeah, so let me just start off first with the real ID and then show you how the plan is to make it a digital ID and then how it will connect with medical record. Okay, so the real ID people are really have a wrong idea about what their real ID is. It is not just a state driver’s license with a state star that is like it on the picture.
Yes. Okay, so that’s the real id, but that is not the extent of the real id. So the real ID is a card that is issued by the state under federal control. So it’s kind of a way to deceive you into thinking that you have a state ID when you actually have a national ID controlled by the federal government. So the federal government put out the real ID act. I’m sorry, not the federal government, but Congress. Congress did the Real ID act in 2005. And Senator Lamar Alexander from Tennessee on the floor of the U. S.
Senate said, this is a national identification card. We haven’t talked to the American people about this. I’m, I’m not comfortable doing this. We should have a big public debate. Of course, they didn’t do that. Instead they just passed it as part of a defense spending bill in the middle of the night. The middle of the night stuff is always an indicator of something wrong. That’s right. Are you and, and, and Senator Patty Murphy on the floor of the Senate, she also said, we never voted on this. It’s never had a conference. In other words, no conference committee between the House and the Senate at all had ever been held.
And she said, and it has fourth amendment implications, privacy implications. And, but yet this thing passed. And within three years they issued a rule rule to implement it. And they told the states, thou shalt do X, Y and Z, you shall comply to real id. And the state said, I don’t think so. We are under the 10th Amendment here, which means we have states rights. And you, the federal government aren’t cannot compel us to do that. And so something like 30 states wrote laws and, and resolutions opposing or completely prohibiting any compliance what’s whatsoever with real ID.
And the, the change happened in 2015 at the end of the year when Obama said, you won’t be able to fly in 2016 if you don’t have a real ID. And that’s the first time that the media picked it up, fanned those flames all across the country, made everybody scared to death they wouldn’t be able to fly. They started talking to their state legislators saying, fix this. And so legislators bow, bowed, they submitted to the federal government and they gave up 10th Amendment states rights and they gave up 4th Amendment privacy rights of everybody in the state.
And it took about three years. And so I think the last state to bow, I think was in 26, 2018. And so now all the states, 100% of the states have complied with the federal government and they’re all issuing real IDs. And the real ID, the law says, or the rule says that anytime that the, the federal government makes a change, you, the state, shall comply with that change. And so right now we require you to have a biometric image of your face and we require you to have a special symbol, a star. Right. And we require you to have these colors and those colors, and we require this and that and the other thing.
Right. So keep in mind that kind of power over the states as I move forward in this little discussion. Discussion. So anyway, so now here we are at this. So they’ve delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed because lots of people have refused to get the real id even though all the states are issuing them. Lots of people have refused. So a rule came out, a proposed rule came out in October, still in the Biden administration. And it’s. And, and then our organization found out about it and got basically 31,700 comments into the agency saying, no, no, no, no.
This is a violation of constitutional rights. Hell no. And, and yes. And. And then in January, they published their final rule. They said only 11,000 comments come in. That was kind of funny. And they have not answered our request to say where did those other 25,000 comments go? To that we have a screenshot showing that they came in and they arrived. Yeah. Anyway, so, and so common when you start seeing games like that, middle of the night, right? Legislation deleting comments, deleting data, you know something’s wrong, but keep, right? Yep. And so then on January 14, this rule came out.
It’s called a progressive enforcement rule, or that’s what we call it, they call it a phased in approach. And so starting on May 7th, they were going to require the Real ID or Real ID compatible IDs. How or not compatible compliant IDs. And, but it’s for two years and this progressive enforcement goes until May 5th, 2027. So two years from now. And, and so the whole idea here was to force the American public into the real ID. And, and then Kristi Noem on April 11th of this year said if you come to the airport without a real id, you won’t be able to to travel.
That was a lie. That was like a total lie because there are 16 different TSA acceptable identification, like your birth certificate, your passport, your birth certificate, not birth certificate, but the passport. What are the, what are some of the, like the, if you’re, if you’re a VA medical card, a permanent resident card. So there are 16 different ones and they’re all on the website. Right. Okay. And she is now head of the TSA because the TSA is with an agency within Homeland Security. Right. Y so, so not only did she not even talk about her two year progress, you know, progressive enforcement rule and that there’s really two years and that the whole rule is about what’s going to happen at the airport if they actually put the hammer down on May 7th, three weeks ago.
Right. That’s what the whole rule is about. What is she ignorant or is she just doesn’t care? I mean she just, is she, is she purposely implementing this stuff and she knows or here’s, here’s what she. A lot of people just want to be famous and innocent. I know. But here’s what she told Congress the day before May 7th when she finally admitted that oh yes, you’ll be able to fly and you might have a few other steps if you don’t have a real id, you know, or a real ID acceptable id. So she said, and I thought this is a shocking statement.
And so keeping in mind the whole digital thing you were talking about, she said that real id, quote, will allow us to know individuals in this country who they are and that they’re authorized to travel, end quote. That’s what it is. It’s going to be tied into the entire ecosystem database, tied to your financial records, tied to your phone calls, tied to your social media activity in the federal database of every person in this country. Now we have of course our data in the irs, we have other kind of things that we’re in. But the fact of the matter matter is your license has, is under State purview.
So the federal government, they didn’t take control. They, they made it scary for anybody to stay out. So they did. Coercion. Right. And then all the states bowed. But all the states can unbow. They can pull themselves out and actually refuse to issue the real id, which would shut the whole thing down. So we’re working with about eight different states. There’s a coalition of states that a legislator in Maine is working to build. And she had the first repeal real ID bill that I know, state bill. She’s a Republican. She has five Democrat co authors. Good for her.
Because it’s not. It should be a nonpartisan thing. Freedom is nonpartisan. That should be a tagline. Freedom is nonpartisan now, but for all of your people who. So she had to back backtrack there. She had to admit. And then. But she still never brought up the two years of progressive enforcement. She didn’t bring it up. So it’s like, you know, it’s like she doesn’t want to let anybody know that there’s. What is wrong here? I’m gonna, I just. I know you’ve thought about it. What is the deal with her? What is the deal with these people? Is it blackmail, coercion, or they just don’t care? I don’t actually know, but I just think it might be a power play.
Right. She’s the head honcho of Homeland Security and. But it’s completely not, not constitutional, it’s not conservative, it’s not freedom minded. She’s in the Trump administration, but we haven’t actually seen Trump, you know, so far. Looking at this as a freedom issue. Now, I think the details of the real ID is what your audience does need to know. And it will tap into the digital part Y. Because people have said, well, you know, I got a passport. They know everything anyway. Oh, no, no, no, no. And your passport is not a real id. They want the real ID so bad because they don’t have the real id.
So never think that they got something if they’re, if they’re coercing you into getting it. They don’t have it. So explain the difference. Why does the this give them access? Because they do have databases, but they’re just, they’re disparate and it’s not easy. But go ahead, explain the whole thing. The real ID will be an internal passport, not an external passport. It will be a right to travel within the United States States passport. It will be a pass it. It will be a card which you will need for every transaction in your Life. So you know how you use your ID today, or how you use your driver’s license today.
Right. It’s controlled by, well, except for if you have a real id, right? You know, it comes out of the state government. You flash it for these different things. Okay, but the DMVs who create, create the driver’s license that you have today, the standard one, or the real id, they’ve got a plan and they told Congress their plan on, on December 5, 2023. What was their plan? Their plan is to digitize the real id, put it on your phone and have remote real time access to it. Now imagine this during COVID if the federal government under Buy Biden were in control and wanted everybody to have VAX passports so they could know who was being vaxxed.
But if they didn’t have VAX passports, they would be able to say, these people here who aren’t vaxxed, we now know that they’re not vaxxed and we want them to stay at home. Like some people said, they shouldn’t even be able to leave their house. Right. They shouldn’t be able to buy, they shouldn’t be able to sell, they shouldn’t be able to anything. Well, if you had a bias, Han Harris or AOC administration, imagine them just telling the dmv, shut it off. Well, you know, I’ve had NSA whistleblowers in my contacts tell me they have access to all this anyways, but the difference is, is that it makes it a organized, legit method for them to use.
I don’t know if it’s legit, but legit from their standpoint is out in the open and it’s then able to really be on steroids and, and all the different agencies can use it, not just some covert intelligence agencies. So privacy is one thing, but control is the other. Real ID is about control. The DMVs could just shut off your ID, which means you have nothing to pay for anything, you have nothing to go to anything. You have nothing to drive with, you have nothing to access health care with. You have nothing. And so the thing that the law says about the real ID is it gives the Secretary of Homeland Security, currently Christy Gnome, unilateral authority to expand the purposes, the official purposes of the real id.
There are only three purposes now. Access to nuclear facilities, federal facilities, and commercial flight. But then the law says. And any other purposes that the Secretary shall determine. If you want to force. Yep, if you want to force everybody into real id, because the whole idea here is to digitize it and Know every place that you flash that thing. Right. And have that pinging in the government, they’ll know if you buy a gun, they’ll know if you go to the doctor, they’ll know which doctor you go to. Right. If you want to create this digital control system, it’s through the real id, it’s not through the passport.
Because people aren’t going to take their passport with them wherever they go. Right. They’re creating. They’re creating an internal passport for this of kind country and really just taking away our freedom. Allowing all this surveillance for not only, you know, profiling you, but also to control you because they can shut off your idea at any time, which means we are developing a social credit system for America. Right. And they actually want to integrate it into these things. And that’s what you just said. Yeah. And once it’s integrated into those things. But they already, you know, they.
I know they already have most of it already or all of it already in place. It’s just about making it legit and easier. And that I know because I have so many sources that tell me that. Plus it’s my background. Right. I come from that background. So I know it’s not that complicated. But this makes it structurally, politically legit so that they can move on and do whatever they want. And scary. So they’ll have a database of every person at the federal level in one place. There’s a lot of different databases. You know, HHS had 700 different data systems.
Right. That’s what Elon Musk and company found. Right. This is one database in the TSA in Homeland Security. That’s right. And then they can tell the state DMVs, we’re concerned about this person shut off their ID so they can’t move, they can’t buy, they can’t do. Do anything. That’s what they don’t have today. They don’t have today. They. Well, they. They don’t. Yeah, they have access to all the data, but it’s not clean. It could be like 10 different IDs and it’s disparate and everything else. That’s what I’ve been telling. And this makes it cleans it all up.
But because I wrote a paper back in the early 90s about why you need a digit, why you need. I didn’t call it a digital id. I called it a customer ID across all telecom. And it’s essentially for this because there’s all these dis. Disparate databases, all these things. I was doing it and looking at it from you served a customer wasn’t looking at it from this perspective, but it’s the same concept. And you’re absolutely, absolutely correct. The scary part is, is that we know that unless the people that are behind this are altruistic, they would go after target anybody, any of their political rivals or anybody for any reason.
And we’ve seen it all through history. Have. Haven’t we? Y. Absolutely. Yeah. Like I said, you know, if you, if you’re. And because a lot of people are, they’re on X and they’re saying things and you look at who they are and they say Maga and Maha. Right. They say Omega and Maha. Right. And they’re saying, just get the real idea. It’s been 20 years. What’s the problem? Right. So they’re trusting in Trump. They’re trusting in Trump, right? You can’t trust in Trump. And how long is Trump? Right. And then what if in office for another three and a half years? So what if it’s aoc? Right.
So here are. The Republicans are setting up this digital biometric control that. I didn’t talk about that either. Biometric controlled database and system for the, the tyrant on the left. They’re setting it up for the tyrant on the left. And, and the biometrics are really key because the rule, the real ID rule says that they’re starting, they’re starting with the facial geometry. So the face scan. Right. A, A biometric scan of your face. But they say we could add other ones in the future. So Oklahoma has already added the thumbprint and so. But they could add the thumbprint, the fingerprints, the palm print.
They could add your DNA. You can digitize DNA. Right. So they could require all of these things on the card. And so they have, they have claimed a right to collect and capture the coordinates of our body for their control and surveillance. They’ve. They’ve put it in, in the legislation and codified it versus just doing it stealth because I know they’ve been working on this for decades. So that is the problem because it, well, it’s police power. They’ve got police power. Yeah. I had Kyle Siren on and he talked about the FBI and how if you listen list the FBI as an intelligence agents agency first and then the police force force.
It’s essentially a, the Stasi in your country. You’re essentially, you’re, you’re. That’s exactly what it is. You have an internal intelligence force on your oddity that. What word did he use? But that’s, it’s essentially what the stars, military, police it’s what is on you. And then this is tracked to that or it’s tied to that. It’s it, we’re all going in that direction. The, the technology is already there now, getting it tied to the, the monetary system. I’ve been, I, I’ve been talking to people about how, you know, Rosa Khoury was a great person and she died before COVID I don’t know if you knew who she was.
And she was looking into the fact that they are taking every single asset and putting it on the blockchain. And what we’re moving to, to with currency is the that. And this is what I believe is going to happen with the reset is instead, you know, we’re having gold back. The currency we’re having, depending on the country you have, you’re going to have assets and, and natural resources back your currency. And so they’re taking every asset in the country and putting it on the blockchain, and that includes you. So like, everything will be digitized and then once you have everything digitized and mapped out, everything is related to everything.
Everything else, you can pretty much do anything. Well, what I, what I want to say, and this is really important to say, is that there’s actually a way out of real ID and the individuals hold the key. So there’s two things. They have to get everybody to comply. Right? But the fact of the matter is in 45 states, you have the choice of a standard state driver’s license or a real id. And so like I just discovered somebody in South Dakota which has 99% compliant with Real ID. 99%. And they never tell anybody about the other option, Right.
So she went and she called up the capital, the DMV in the capital of South Dakota, and she said, I’d like a standard state driver’s license. Can I get one? And they said, oh, yeah, sure. You just have to ask for it. But they’re not telling anybody, right? Do they take that away? If not enough people ask for it, they. So this is, this is the important part. This is the state’s rights. State, states rights. So there’s two things. One, individuals can start getting rid of their real ID and getting back to a standard state driver’s license in 45 different states.
And they can push for it. It’s sitting there in law for them. And then just use your passport or passport card to fly. But whatever you do, don’t get a real id and if you have one, get rid of it. So I’m just going to encourage people to Go to refuse real id.org where we have instructions for getting rid of your real id. If you think it’s going to be hard, you can always just look at them. But really in California, I had somebody in California say that was easy peasy. They just went up and they said, I don’t want a real ID anymore.
And they said okay. And they gave them a state driver’s license. Right. So some states might make it more difficult, but I think the DMVS have gone rogue. And if the DMVS have gone rogue and they’re not actually following what their law, laws and their rules. Oh yeah, well, they went, they went rogue between 2009 when all those states said no, and 2015 when Obama said, you won’t be able to fly. We discovered that there was an article in 2020 when nobody was looking at these things. Right. Because we were all stuck in our homes. Anyway, that article shows that the, the little Real ID office at Homeland Security decided it could work directly with DMVs in the states and funding the DMVs, even in states that prohibited any compliance with the real id.
So they were violating state law and they were getting the, the state up to 95% of where they had to go to be compliant. They weren’t telling their governors, they weren’t telling their legislators. So I am not at all surprised if DMV is going rogue in these states. So, so everybody can go back to a state drive driver’s license, standard state driver’s license, and then get a passport or passport card. So go to refuse realid.org We’ve got five different things, including the entire timeline for Real ID so you can see how it happened, the different things that happened down.
It’s very, it’s just like one page is very pleasant to look at. Let’s just say that we have the. You can fly and you can see parts of the, the rule and what it says about how scared they were of what would happen at the end airport. And that’s why they’ve got two years, got seven reasons to repeal or refuse the real id. And then we’ve got this. Make a switch, you know, lose your real id, make a switch back to freedom. So we have tools and we’re developing even more tools like how to deal with the 10 objections to Real ID or, or, I’m sorry, 10 reasons why you wouldn’t want it.
And then how to deal with the objections. Well, you’re a thorn in their side. That’s wonderful. Yes. More Thor. We need more people to be Thor on their side. I mean that’s what we need. We need solutions. So that’s absolutely great. Okay. And then I. So again, what is the website to do that? Refuse realid.org Refuse real id.org because we know it’s up to the people to refuse. Now the states have all bowed, but there are eight states who are now trying to pull themselves out and we don’t even need that many states. Once a few states pull themselves out, they cannot implement, impose it at the airport.
Right. So this, they’re just trying desperately to get a hundred percent state compliance and 100 card compliance, that’s what they call it, because then they will impose it all. And Representative Thomas Massie in a tweet, he said, you do not realize everything they want to do with this card and you won’t realize it until everybody has it. And he was saying so don’t get it. Well, and that’s, but that’s the problem is, is that initially they’re not going to do much with it and then once everybody has it now. Wow, that’s exactly screwed. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there’s been some things in the media with Maha and with things that are going on and there’s been some big ones lately when it comes to vaccines.
And can you talk about a couple big headline news that you, we talked about before you came on that we wanted to bring up. Up. Yeah, Well, I just really wanted to bring up what FDA has decided to do. So, you know, Dr. McCary and I can’t remember the other guy’s name. It’s a Indian name. Anyway, they came out with their recommendations and their guidance for what’s going to happen now with the COVID shot. And I thought it was very disappointing because there is so much damage and injuries because of the COVID shot that really, I think what so many people around the country wanted them to, to do was to simply ban the shot.
It’s been banned in other countries. It should be. There’s no reason, there is no reason to keep it. I saw a clip of them talking about it. Maybe I can find it and air it. But they said that they, they said there’s no evidence that it does good, but they didn’t say anything about it doing bad. And that is so harmful. It’s as if they’re being, I always see this and I think it’s as if they’re scared or blackmailed or they’re paid off or there’s, there’s just a. Makes no sense. Well, they’ve been brought into the administration by Trump.
And Trump really heralds his operation warp speed and still does. So I do not think that Trump has ever had that. I mean, I think healthc care is difficult for Trump and he’s even said it’s difficult for him. And so, you know, he, maybe he, he just doesn’t understand or he’s just not going to back away from it, you know, but so many injuries in the turbo cancers, so many people get getting these turbo cancers where they’re just suddenly they have cancer and it’s at stage three, stage four and they die, you know, and this is happening really with the young people like it never happened before.
And of course a lot of the young people were forced in, in order to stay, keep their employment. Right. And so, and it’s happening in the military, it’s happening all over. And so it’s not just turbo cancer, right? The sudden deaths, it’s the heart attacks, it’s the myocardit, it’s so many things. And now a study came out, oh, I should say what they said they were going to do. But a study came out in Yale News talking about the study that has found that the toxic, dangerous spike protein is still being found in tissues 700 days after the shot.
And remember when they said the shot will stay in your arm and then it will just like go away? B.S. yeah. Right. So it’s spread all throughout the body. And now they actually have evidence that the spike protein is sitting there in tissues, inflaming, doing whatever the spike protein is doing. And they’re not even sure if it is, you know, regeneration. Is it continuing to build itself? Because they never, when they did it with the MRNA to create spike protein, they didn’t have a like shut off mechanism. Right. And so there, nobody knows how long it is creating spike protein in your body.
And so, so here they come out with this recommendation and they say that for healthy people they’re going to require clinical trials, randomized clinical trials for at least six months. A clinical trial for at least six months of what? Clinical trial of what? Of the COVID shots. Okay, but for unhealthy people or people who have risky health conditions, including children, starting at the age of six months, they will allow there just to be evidence that it creates antibodies in their body. And so they won’t require all of the, all of the research. That’s the only thing that they will require.
They should have shut this thing down. You know, so many damaged people, so many. Are they afraid to do that because it’s going to cause Lawsuits. I mean, I. You know, I’ve been thinking about this a lot. Well, I suppose that is causing it. They think they can’t. The only. Yeah, because the. But there’s so many people know and their loved ones are dying and it’s just. But Congress has the PREP act which says you cannot sue these guys. So what would they be afraid of for that? Right. Well. Or pitchforks. I mean, maybe they’re afraid to create the.
If they admit to it, then it. It creates a tsunami. They think this might be a way to keep people suppressed. You know, calm down. I. I mean, I’m just trying to figure out how they could be so callous and incompetent. I can’t. Other. I mean, other than they’re part of some agenda, because it doesn’t make sense. But that is a problem with the Maha agenda as well. So people who really supported the Maha agenda before Maha was Maha. Right. They’re into very healthy foods and they’re looking at the dyes and the chemtrains trails and the fluoride and all this kind of stuff.
Right. And then you have Casey mean and you have some other folks in there and they don’t even mention vaccines. They don’t even mention them. Right. People are dying, people injured forever. And they don’t mention that. Instead they go after the dyes. Instead, they go after important things, but they’re missing the big elephant in the room. Yeah. It’s like nobody wants to go after the COVID shot. And I don’t know if there’s money. I don’t know if. Know if they’re afraid they’re going to be killed. Like somebody is going to actually kill them. You know? You know what I mean? It’s weird.
It’s. Yeah, it’s very weird. Weird. And it’s tragic. It’s tragic for all the people who are having to deal with this every day of their life and nobody will pay attention to them, look at them, try to heal them. Except for the COVID I call them the COVID care doctors that you can find@the flccc.net which is now called the Indian Independent Medical Alliance. And they’ve got a whole cast and crew of COVID doctors, but there’s almost not enough Covid doctors to take care of. Out of control. Like they were saying back. I think Peter McCullough said this, like 2022 or 2023, we need to have clinics set up all over the country to deal with injured Covid people.
Yep, that’s right. And it was like it just, they ignored it. And why isn’t HHS doing that? Right. Why aren’t they doing that? I don’t, I don’t know. That’s what I’m saying. I don’t. It, it, it’s perplexing to me. It’s very callous. Very callous. It’s evil. I mean, I don’t know what else. It’s so bad. Yeah, yeah. And it happened because of the government, it happened because of the mandates, it happened because of all of the funding of these and that. And let’s give these guys more pun power, right? Yeah. No, no, I, I just, I just have to say that I think that the pharmaceutical companies can do really great things.
They can do great things. They can. And they could do even better things if they didn’t have to spend, you know, $2 billion and 10 years trying to figure out how to get something to market if we actually had a real market in manufacturing and we didn’t have the federal government who imposed lose this whole thing so that some, some individual like you or me or whomever has like a really amazing thought of how to, how to heal some rare disease. Right? Yeah. But we can’t face $2 billion and 10 years and there’s only 40 people who have this disease.
I know a person like this, you know. That’s right. That’s right. We’re gonna die. Yeah. It’s ridiculous. Yeah. So the government has done this and then the government has had their favored players like Fizer and Moderna. And for all of your people, if you don’t understand this Moderna, you see the RNA in Moderna, it starts with M. Moderna. The only thing Moderna was built for incorporated to do was messenger rna. And they were not having any, getting really any headway until the shot. But that’s all. And that’s all they wanted. And so their idea is to have messenger rna, which clearly is a problem, be their main product.
Now they’re trying to do it with other, you know, vaccines and they want to do this whole. They want, even though it’s not care what this is being one of the modalities and injurious. It’s harmful to people. It doesn’t seem to matter. It doesn’t seem to matter. Right. It’s like people are. And they might as well the who they want, they have a 500 new vaccine thing by 2030. They just want to pump these things out to poor and middle income company countries all over the world. Let’s get these into the arms of the poor people so that we can help them and we can get their land and we can get their.
We can depopulate where we think we. There should be depopulation. Right? And so it’s a nefarious, evil, evil thing that’s going on here. And it’s very difficult, I think, to see our government, you know, in any way, shape or form participating in this because they’re all dedicated, they’ve all signed an oath, given an oath, you know, to, to protect the constitutional rights and freedoms of this country and to be. To limit themselves on what they can do in our lives. And they’ve just gone completely off the reservation. It’s hard to imagine people, people who talk to you in a way that they care about you.
And I mean, they seem. They’re good actors. You know, some of these people are just great actors. You, you have. It’s hard to imagine that somebody could hurt you who acts that way. That’s the hurdle that a lot of people are trying to get over mentally. You know, one thing I’ve said about our organization is that we deal with a lot of issues that are hidden. So we deal. We’ve dealt with over, over the years and still deal with today. The fact that health plans are not insurance companies. Right. They’re corporate. They’re the corporate version of socialized medicine.
Newborn screening is the taking of your child’s DNA without your consent and the keeping of it. Right now that’s an important thing because that’s part of this whole digital id. This is part of that that we’re talking about, but keep going. I mean, really. Yeah. And so. And real ID is not a state driver’s license. It’s a national ID card, an unconstitutional national ID card. And HIPAA doesn’t prot. Privacy. It actually took away your privacy, you know, and, and they sold it. See, this is exactly my point. They sold it as a privacy legislation and really was the exact opposite.
And so that’s where people have the hard time getting their arms around and trusting people. Why trust us? Because the same doofuses up there, we. How do they know we’re not any different than the doofuses that have been lying to them for years? You know, that’s what the average person is trying to. To deal with. And what do you say to that? Well, you do have to have a little spidey sense. You have to. Yes. And you have to do your own research. If you are going to be lazy enough to just say, oh, okay, whatever, and you’re just going to Block out everyone else because you just want to get to your football game or you just want to talk to your children or whatever it is.
And you’re not going to protect your children or the future of this country because. Because you’re too engaged in the entertainment of your life. Right. Then when something happens to you, like you are now permanently paralyzed or permanently whatever with these shots, really, you know, you are to blame. We are to use our brains, you know, and all of us will find ourselves where we don’t use our brains sometimes. And it’s like, why did I just. Why? Why? Why didn’t I even think to ask is this the best thing or is this absolute why? But today, after Covid, there is not an American on this piece of ground called America that should do anything but question what comes out of the federal government.
That’s. All of those bureaucrats are still there. And then a lot of the people that are in there are still. Even those that Trump put in are not necessarily still on your side. We don’t really know. Just because it’s Trump, you know, Trump has made bad decisions too. And Trump has just one real id. He’s just one person. He’s just one person. He can fix some stuff. And it’s better than what we had. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it was, I mean, like someone so bad we were looking up, you know, I know it was a celebration when he went.
Complete celebration. It’s better. I mean, no matter how, you know, you don’t agree, but it’s way better than what we had. But yeah, he’s just one person. And then there’s a lot of. Lot of mixed things going on. And we are a government for oven by the people, but we forget for of them by the people. So we’re not a government of Trump or Congress or the state legislatures. And so we are meant to rule ourselves and only give these people a certain amount of power. And we’ve just given them all sorts of reign over our lives.
That’s. We have to be adults, too. I mean, and we’re acting like children. I think they have to fight. Yeah. And we forgot they have to fight. But I think it’s an. A paradigm of being a child and. And you have to have a par. Freedom is a paradigm of being an adult and absolutely taking control of your life. Right. But thank you so much for coming. You’re always wonderful to talk to. Where again, give us your number one websites. I’m gonna have a link to all of them below. And. And we’ll go from there. Yeah.
So the main website is CCH freedom.org our our real ID website is refuserealid.org and our wedge for our independent cash based Doctors, that’s@jointhewedge.com Thank you so much for joining the program. I’m really glad you reached out to me. Okay. Thanks so much, Sarah. Sam.
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