White House Stenographer: Biden Blackmailed Obama Other Raw Blatant Corruption w/ Mike McCormick

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Summary

➡ The text discusses the speaker’s skepticism about President Biden’s fitness for office, their endorsement of a company called Masterpiece that removes toxins from the body, and their interview with Mike McCormick, a former White House stenographer. The speaker also shares their experiences with media manipulation and corruption, particularly in relation to a human trafficking case. They express frustration about tax money being used to cover up crimes and promote ignorance, and mention an upcoming seminar and a potential IRA scam.
➡ The text is a conversation with Mike McCormick, a former White House stenographer who served under three presidents from 2002 to 2018. McCormick shares his experiences and observations from his time in the White House, including the changes he saw in the press coverage and the administrations. He also discusses his work with Vice President Joe Biden and his views on the current political climate. McCormick has written books about his experiences and has also examined the Hunter Biden laptop controversy.
➡ The text discusses a theory that the U.S. government knew about Osama bin Laden’s location years before his capture. The author suggests that during a 2005 trip to Pakistan, then Vice President Dick Cheney flew over bin Laden’s compound, hinting at prior knowledge of his whereabouts. The author also implies that mainstream media outlets, tied to intelligence agencies, selectively reported on this information. The text ends with a discussion about funding sources for media outlets and the shift of media from traditional to online platforms.
➡ The author claims that the Catholic Church was involved in human trafficking at the border, based on evidence presented in his book. He suggests that the Church, particularly Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, had a close relationship with political figures like Joe Biden and Barack Obama. The author also alleges that McCarrick was a CIA operative, involved in international negotiations and intelligence operations. He further argues that the Vatican has a significant influence over global intelligence agencies, including the CIA, due to its extensive information network.
➡ The speaker discusses various political figures, including Bergoglio, Obama, Trump, and Biden. They suggest that Biden had leverage over Obama, and that Trump’s election was unexpected and caused a stir. The speaker also mentions that Trump campaigned in places others didn’t, which helped him win. They also discuss Biden’s significant roles in the White House and his influence in various areas like China and Ukraine.
➡ The speaker discusses their belief that political figures, including Obama and Biden, have prioritized personal interests over national concerns. They suggest that these figures, along with others, have been involved in various conspiracies, including the Wuhan pandemic and a supposed plot to reduce the elderly population in China. The speaker also criticizes the media for spreading misinformation and encourages listeners to question what they are told and think for themselves. They conclude by promoting their book, which they claim reveals hidden truths about the world.
➡ The text is a conversation with an author who has written books about political and religious issues, available on Amazon. He shares his views on good and evil, and believes in speaking the truth as a form of protection. He communicates through various platforms and offers both free and paid subscriptions. He hasn’t experienced any threats and maintains his confidence through daily prayers.

Transcript

Sam SA Because I start I saw Biden coming in. He was not fit to be president in 2020. Yeah, already diminished. So I made a bit of a media splash on that in the fall of 2020. Got on Fox News saying, look, this guy’s not fit to be president. And no one followed up with me, just Fox News. It was right before the election. He stole the election. Clearly he stole it. I’ve written books about it. And then what happened was I got a hold of the Hunter Biden laptop. Just a quick break from your programming so I can give you a little information about Masterpiece.

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You can try yours today as well by going to sarah westall.com under shop or with the link below. Welcome to business Game changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have Mike McCormick coming to the program. This is a very interesting. I haven’t done a show quite like this before. He was the stenographer in the White House. He covered Bush Jr. He’s covered Obama and he’s covered Biden and I guess he covered a part of the first year of Trump. So he got to see this whole range of people in the White House. And he explains what the stenographer does and how he’s there just to document in a witness everything that will not really be a witness, but document everything.

He ends up being a witness but document everything that’s going on in the White House. He was on Air Force One. He was in, you know, briefing top secret briefings. He was in all sorts of stuff. But he, because it was public record, he never signed a non disclosure. It’s not top secret for him because anything that meeting he was in, it was for the press and that he got to document it. But he worked for the White House so he got to see firsthand how the press lied and covered up on what was really going on.

And we talk about that and we talk about how, how much of a Paradigm change, that is for someone to see how one thing is so different, 180 degree different than what reality is. And I saw that firsthand when I was covering a story with Jacob Wetterling and how the media, I mean I had really good people who are involved with the investigation who were looking at, had witnesses, had so much information and pbs, which is, you know, the public broadcasting system locally was going to put out something too that was actually truthful. And then that got smothered and then the local television station, now that was local, Fox News did a cover, 180 degree cover and lied about what was, I mean, just a blatant lie.

And I couldn’t, I. So I saw firsthand how such a horrible situation this, this kid got caugh into traffic human trafficking and that the. And I don’t think the people who, the news reporters who were covering it actually knew themselves. I think they were reading news, they weren’t doing the investigations and the journalism themselves. I think they were reading news thinking it was true, but they were fed a lines of BS and they were covering and they were counteracting the information that we were putting out and what PBS was going to put out. And then PBS stopped, they, they were smother, they stopped, dropped the whole thing.

And the media, I mean it was like they came out, the forces came out to shut down that whole story because that went all the way up to the United nations and this human trafficking ring. And so I got to see it firsthand and it was a shocker. I couldn’t believe watching it firsthand. So that was one of the things that opened my eyes early on to the, the lies the media tells to protect the corruption and the rackets that are going on in our world. And the media is tied into that. And he got to see that on steroids where he watched them do this on a regular basis.

And then when USAID and DOGE uncovered, you know, so much of the CIA funding and involvement with the media and how they cover up this, the, the incredible crimes. It’s so therapeutic from, you know, from the perspective of those of us who have watched this go on for years. And that’s why when I see pushback on it, it makes, you know, makes me angry because that’s such an important revelation and it’s so important to clean that up. You know, I’m not naive. I know that, that humans will be humans and that they will replace it with other avenues.

But this has gotten so out of hand and so much of our funding is. We are Funding our own ignorance. We are funding the mechanisms to cover up crime and the fact that our, you know, tax money is being used to cover up crime and to put us in danger and to create a corrupt system. I mean, that’s the thing. That’s why so many people are like, I don’t want to pay taxes. I don’t want my taxes to go to that. Right. That’s the situation we’re in. And, and the people who’ve come to that conclusion have come from it, rightfully so.

I mean, at one point, if you know your money is being, is funding massive corruption, do you have a right to say, I don’t? I mean, this is, this is fundamentally wrong. At what point do they have to answer to us and say that we will not fund this kind of stuff anymore? We will not sit back and be okay with you covering up these crimes and then lying to us straight to our faces. And that’s what he got to see. And so that’s why this is so amazing. His books uncover it more than what you can possibly get in an hour conversation.

So I will have the link below to his book, also his substack. You can find Mike McCormick@substack.com and I will have the links below to that as well. And before I get into that, I want to tell you that I will be having an upcoming seminar, Q and A with Andy Schectman for Miles Franklin. We are still working on it. We are going to announce the date soon, but keep an eye out for that because we’ll have a live Q and A. I did one with Diane Kaser, Dr. Diane Kaser on Peptides and people just flooded to that.

It’s been such a wonderful way for people to get their questions answered. So I’m going to be doing that with Andy Schectman. So watch out for that. I’ll start to advertise that and keep that going. And we. What I’m learning is because we’re uncovering this IRA scam, so many people are involved in it. He has saved so many people, made them whole, their life savings. Just Yesterday I had 15 people reach out to me who are concerned about their retirement savings. And almost all of them are getting their money back and being made whole. And what’s happening.

He doesn’t want to say names. He. And. And the reason why is because as soon as he starts doing that, then the avenue to get your money back and your life savings might shut down. And so we are trying to do this as much as possible in kind of a stealth fashion. I believe that this will blow up in their faces. This will become a huge scandal. I mean I, because I mean people are losing hundreds of thousands of dollars of their life savings with these IRA scams. And so while we can, we’re trying to make people whole.

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If you believe that you or a loved one has been scammed, there’s no shame in that. A lot of people have been scammed and a lot of people who mean well, famous spokespeople, I don’t think they know what they’re selling. So this is really a brewing problem. It’s going to turn into a huge scandal I believe. So go to sarawestall.com Miles Franklin here fill out that form and I hand deliver that to Andy and he gets it to his team to take care of also if you are interested, I mean every gold is coming back that we, we believe that it’s going to be re evaluated to fund other things.

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Hi Mike, welcome to the program. Hey Sarah, good to see you. I’m excited to do this one. It is pretty incredible information that you’re going to be sharing with people today and with me. Can you share with everybody what your background is? Yes, I’m an author. I’ve written a couple of books based on what I observed Firsthand when I worked in the White House as a stenographer with the press office. So I worked in this White House stenographer’s office from 2002 to 2018. Three presidents. Wow. All of them cool. Okay. Yeah. And so I sort of the progression of how the press covered the White House and I saw the coming of Trump.

I’m a Trump person. You know, most of the time I was right on. I was independent voter. I don’t really care one way or the other. I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t have worked for the Democrats if I was a hard line anything. I wouldn’t work for the Republicans if I was a hard line anything. I’m just sort of a middle of the road observer and that’s what the job was. Go in there and be in the room with the President or the Vice President and then when I say the room, it’s the West Wing, sometimes Air Force One, sometimes Air Force Two, traveling around the world.

And as they speak to the press, there has to be a recording made of it and a transcript made so that everybody knows exactly what was said clearly. And that was my job. It was like a court reporting job in the White House. Wow. Okay. And you saw the progression of what was going on in the White House through all those years. You’re going to be dropping some bombshells today for people to hear. Yeah. What would you say, so what, when you did this, what would you say was the biggest changes that you saw from the first President Bush.

It was Bush too, right? Junior. Through. You’re not that old. Through the latest. By what was the biggest change? I mean you saw like a change progressively, right? Yeah, that’s a really good question. So when I first got there, I was wide eyed and impressed with the setting. It’s a, it’s an interesting and amazing place to work. You’re working with the top tip of the sphere of democracy around the world. Policy, action, the media. And so it was really invigorating. After a while you sort of get used to the flow and start to understand and start seeing things.

What I realized was what happens in D.C. that’s important to understand is what’s not being said by the press. So I learned through the Bush years kind of what they were not talking about. I wasn’t there exactly when Obama came in. I left for a couple years and then came back. I had a job down with a non profit in, in Richmond, Virginia and then stopped that and came back, was very glad I did because, you know, the, the Obama presidency was like adulation. I mean, it wasn’t just a presidency. It was like glorification of a human being in this position.

And that’s what the press was doing, and it was a little shocking to me. How long were you there during Obama’s years? I started back in 2010, and I was there till the end. Okay, so half of it. Okay. Yeah. Oh, well, a good portion. More. Yeah. More. Yes. Six years with six or six. More than half. Yeah. Yeah. So I did six years of Biden, one with Obama. So. And then in 2011, I worked specifically with Joe Biden. He was the vice president. He was what I call thirsty, so he wanted a lot. Oh, so hold on a second.

We want you. So you were with Obama for a full year, and. But you focused on the vice president for. For five of those years. So when you went back in 2010-2011, I was with Obama. And then 2011 through 2017, the very end of the administration, I was all Joe Biden all the time, which was a handful. Okay. And I was the only one that was doing him. So our office had responsibilities with the first lady, with president and with vice president. I was the vice president’s guy. So I spent a lot of time each other, travel with him to.

Wow, China. You got to know him really well. Did. Was he personal enough to want to know you? I mean. No. Okay. You were. Were you just like a worker? And they. I was about two. I was about three levels down, but I flew on Air Force Two with them. So, you know, I was in the back of the plane. They would. They knew who I was. He knew I was when he saw me in the room with them. But he never. We never said hi. He took one picture with me and my wife and at a holiday reception.

That was about it. I mean, he’s basically a decent guy. The people that work for the Biden team, when I work with them, were good. It was a good team camaraderie, but it covered over the criminal activity that they were doing. And so then I did one year with Trump, and I left after that. I was basically canceled out of my position by Obama lovers. And then Trump came in, and I watched Trump from the sidelines. I watched the Biden presidencies from the sidelines. And what happened was, because I start. I saw Biden coming in. He was not fit to be president in 2020, we’re certain already diminished.

So I. I made a bit of a media splash on that in the fall of 2020, got on Fox News saying, look, this Guy’s not fit to be president. And no one followed up with me, just Fox News. It was right before the election. He stole the election. Clearly he stole it. I’ve written books about it. And then what happened was I got a hold of the Hunter Biden laptop. My friend Garrett Ziegler at Marco Polo gave me a copy of that. And that’s when I started seeing the evil and the corruption that was actually behind the scenes.

Because I could go through that and look at the time span, look at the emails. I just look at the emails and saw they were emailing each other as we were getting ready to go to Ukraine. And that’s the crime. So that’s when I wrote and started writing my stuff. Hold on one second. Could, when you were looking through that, did that. Your experience, did you be able to connect dots then of what you heard and what was planned and then what. Okay, taking a step back here, one more. How did you get your job? I mean, how does one get a job like that? Because that’s pretty incredible access.

Yeah, it was. I worked for a court reporting company and they had the White House contract and they said, if you do a good job for us, you know, you get a crack at the White House. I worked hard for him, did a good job and got in as a contractor. In 2014, we were federalized by Obama. He became federal employees. And that’s when the woke stuff started happening. And it was, you know, it’s a. I think what Doge is doing now with the federal workforce is much needed and it’s a healthy change. For certain. For certain.

It’s very healthy to clean house. Okay, so when, when you went there, were you. You said that you were more objective. You didn’t have like a viewpoint one way or the other. It wasn’t until after you left that you developed it, or did you start to develop it while you were there? Because it was just like, holy crap, I can’t believe some of the things I’m seeing. Well, it was all. I was always conservative, you know, I’ve always liked small government and low taxes and basically that’s it. The social stuff, I’m not a big. I don’t really care that much about.

So I was. I was behind the. The Bush presidency. I thought it was okay at the time. I thought the Iraq war made sense. I listened to Condoleezza Rice lay out their case over and over and over. Now I look back and see how awful and evil behind the scenes it all was. And same. And like, how, how would you Say, how would you. Because now you can connect the dots. How would you say that was evil? And what did you see? So what specifically? What I saw is I was on a helicopter flight with Dick Cheney in 2005 to Pakistan, and he flew right over Abbottabad, which is where they eventually killed Osama bin Laden about five years later.

As I. And I have documents as a part of a press package from this trip. This is a White House trip, Senior. There were White House correspondents on it from abc, ap, fox, and cnn. They flew us right over where Osama bin Laden was. And I started digging into the story, the CIA on their website, at a legacy website about the raid for kill Osama bin Laden. They have surveillance photos of that exact site from 2004 and 2005. And that suggests to me that they were surveilling where Osama bin Laden was building his compound. And then they had Dick Cheney go and fly over the top of it.

And the COVID story was he was there to survey earthquake relief that was being done in the hills of Pakistan by usaid. And now we know that usaid, after being dismantled by doge, was a big cover for CIA activity. And what I think happened was they had Osama bin Laden under wraps right then and there, and they knew it. And they sent Cheney over there to sort of manage it. He had a meeting with the Pakistanis. The Pakistanis were sort of in charge of it. Cheney went back there in 2007, and I was on that trip.

He went back and talked with President Musharraf. He didn’t fly over Abbottabad on that trip. And. But he was there. And as soon as that, that period of time elapsed. So 2007 became 2008. They changed the government in Pakistan. There was a new person in CIA, probably installed that person who was amenable to the Obama Biden people. And Obama Biden came in and they assumed control over this surveillance activity of where Osama bin Laden was. He gets killed. So it was. It was a continuum of. From one administration to the next in a very. It was.

It wasn’t disrupted at all. Right? They just handed it off. And. And the reason I say that is on this trip in 2005, Dana Bash was a CNN correspondent and she did an interview with Dick Cheney at this earthquake relief site. And she asked him, she goes, hey, there’s indications that Osama bin Laden is in different parts of Afghanistan. Do you know where he is? And his answer was, dana, I can’t answer your question. It was. I will neither confirm Nor deny. Right. I mean if you don’t. Yeah, but go. Keep going. Yeah, yeah. So he just flown over right over the top of it.

But at the time, Dan. And so did you. And so did you. Yeah. With all of us. And it wasn’t like an in your face thing with the media. Well, at the time, Dana Bash’s husband was a deeply connected intelligence community guy. Yeah, his name is Jeremy Bash. She divorced him in 2007, but this was 2005. He winds up working for the CIA as their, as Panetta’s chief of staff. When they go into Abbottabad and get bin Laden five years later, I think he knew and he told her and she had the question to Cheney and that was all part of the package.

It was a package to tell America. Yeah, we’re sending your, your sons and daughters out there in harm’s way. We know what we’re doing. But they really had the bad guy under wraps the whole time. They already had the bad guy on, but now I, I don’t even know if he was the bad. I mean he was part of CIA, I think, I think there was way more to him exactly what. And way more than 911 than people realize. All you have to do is look at the trading that happened before 911 and you know, there was something, I mean you don’t have massive training on trading on the stock market before an event happens unless everybody or certain people know.

Exactly. Yes. And that’s 100. And you know who figured out where Osama bin Laden was hiding up in the mountains? Cnn. Right. They’re the ones that got the video footage really cave in. Yeah, CNN did that. No, no, I know, but I mean. Yeah, who. CNN is also tied to intelligence, which you just, you know, shared one little tie. So who really had it, you know. But you know, to be fair, I don’t mean to defend cnn. I think every major outlet has tied to intelligence and I think that every popular pundit or host now has some kind of CIA tie.

I think they have their tentacles everywhere. Well, they don’t have them with you. They don’t have with me. Other than that I don’t know. Well, I’m gonna, I’m gonna tell you, I’m gonna say not that I know that they have them with me, but we don’t know what. Who is handling who. I think they’re very good at handling people like me. I’m just going to be straight up. They will feed. I am positive that I get fed stuff. Right. I don’t know. And, and so that’s what they’re good at. And I get, I get monitored. I wouldn’t say fed, but I get monitored and I, I feel that.

So you know, and I’m, I’m a White House employee of over 15 years for sure. Your monitor. You are probably a thorn in there. They don’t like that. And so I mean I can’t even imagine how. No, here’s the question before you move on. How do you have the ability to talk about this? Was it all public records so you can talk or. I mean would you. Did you have to sign. It’s. I was never had a top secret or classified clearance. It’s all public record because they’re speaking to the press and I never had to sign a non disclosure.

So. So the, so the press knowingly didn’t cover things that they really should have A lot still do. Well, we all know, right. And it’s a lot. And, and they, they see all of this stuff and they pick and choose only that which helps, which they get paid, which they get paid to cover up. And they get paid to report certain slivers of information. Yes. Okay. And when you said they get paid, is that the USAID which was disclosed or is there a lot of other payment mechanisms that the public isn’t aware of? Did you know that our bodies stopped creating its own vitamin C millions of years ago? Unlike most animals on this planet, our body does not create our own vitamin C.

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But, but I wonder if there’s more avenues than just Doge and what just do usaid, what was just uncovered, I mean, that’s a major. And it’s coinciding with the fall of the mainstream media. Now I’m wondering if this money is flowing into. Because they know the mainstream media, that outlet isn’t working. It’s a business thing. It’s moving online. So I’m wondering if the money’s flowing online in a different manner. Not flowing to me. Unless you buy my book. It’s not flowing to me, man. I’m not getting it either. But you know what I’m saying? Because I, I’m like, I don’t know.

Well, that’s okay. I, I, I make my money by people subscribing my substack and buying my books and that’s it. I don’t do advertising. I’m not an influencer and that keeps me in my mind pure. I was going to say. Well, yeah, but, but, but, and I always push back on this. I’m really transparent. If I’m advertising, I’m a business person. And there’s nothing wrong with making money off of advertising and sharing products because it’s a win, win all direction. Instead of people donating to me, they buy something that they think they want. It helps the company, it helps me, it helps them.

That’s the process now with you. You’re selling your substack and you’re selling your book, which is all transparent. And that’s it. Like, I don’t have a, you know, I don’t have a think tank that give me a check on the side or anything like that. You, you don’t have huge donors behind the scenes saying, I don’t take anything but, you know, donations. Okay, well, who’s your, who’s giving you that hundred grand every six months? Right, right. That’s right. Okay, so, okay, so let’s dive into some of these bombshells because one of the things that you’ve uncovered is the Catholic Church purposely being set up to help with human trafficking at the border.

That’s a huge allegation. But you have proof and receipts. Can you. So that’s in my book, An Almost Insurmountable Evil. How Obama’s Deep state defiled the Catholic Church and executed the Wuhan Pandemic. And what happened was I’m, I’m a Catholic and I was born a Catholic, but I went away from the church during college about a year ago, went back to the church after and started praying. I just needed personal strengthening of my spirit, my connection to God. That’s where I found it. It’s. It’s a personal thing. I think it’s at a personal level. It’s not a human institution, which is extremely flawed.

So as a result of that, though, I think that. So I was also promoting my other book. I was on Alex Jones’s show, and he had this. I was watching. And he had this show where he was really emotional about all the evil he was facing. And it was just not him. It was our country. They were after Trump with lawfare. They were doing all this stuff behind the scenes with the election manipulation. It just seemed like there was this overwhelming sense of evil. And I thought, what’s the most evil thing? I remember from my time in the White House, and it was the relationship between Joe Biden and Theodore McCarrick.

Theodore McCarrick was a Cardinal and a prominent political ally for the Catholic Church to Democrats, but also Republicans in Washington during my time in the White House. And then all of a sudden, Pardon me, in 2000, in 18, it was revealed this guy had been raping altar boys and seminarians for years, and the Vatican knew it, and they covered it up. So I went into White House visit logs and just looked. Who did McCarrick meet with during the Biden years? And that’s where the evil was. He met with Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and Most notably, Denis McDonough, who was a White House chief of staff.

And what I think, why. Why would this cardinal, who’s raping little boys and the Vatican’s covering it up, meet with these people? Why would he be anywhere near. Because they. The Catholic vote to politicians is very important in America. They were. But why would the cardinal who is a rape rapist have. I mean, there’s one thing about the Vatican covering it up. There’s another thing of giving a cardinal who’s a rapist. This is what I know the answers to these. I’m just asking this more than probably than. Than you probably want me to know. Okay? But the.

A cardinal who’s a rapist, who the Vatican is protecting. I could. There’s one thing about protecting and putting him kind of in a corner to protect your image. There’s another thing of raising him up and being at that level in your organization, even though you know he’s a child rapist, that sends a different signal. So tell me why you think he was there. He was a CIA Operative almost from the start. This. The CIA was working with the Vatican in the 40s. McCarrick was. So I was on like a radio program a couple weeks ago with the guy who sent in a complaint about McCarrick’s name is James Grind.

And he was one of the whistleblowers who said, this guy raped me when I was a kid. And they investigated, found him credible, and got rid of McCarrick. Well, James grind said that he and his, his family was friends with McCarrick. McCarrick was a friend of his uncle’s and he used to go to a small Swiss town called Saint Gallit in the late 40s after the war. He said his family knew that McCarrick was there working for the Vatican to send people around the world after the war. I took it as like a Nazi ratline thing.

And the Vatican was involved in sending Nazis out of Germany. You know, you think of the Catholic Church, it’s not a country. There were bishops who represented the Nazis in Germany and bishops who represented the English in England while the war was underway. And the Vatican had both bishops and cardinals under their purview. So they kind of have to be moral, but they also have to do this political dance. Well, they don’t. They. They have to project morality. They hopefully prayerfully, we hope so anyway. There was this thing. The, at the time there was a senior CIA official named James Angleton, spymaster, who was the bureau chief in Rome.

He was working closely. He said this in testimony that’s come out since in the JFK files release. He was working closely with the Vatican Secretary of State, a guy named Montini. Montini becomes Pope Paul VI. Pope Paul VI was the guy who bumped McCarrick up the ladder very quickly. For those reasons, I think McCarrick was an operative. He was given this responsibility. He was rewarded. And they turned a blind eye to what he did. But turning a blind. Putting somebody. I’m just going to repeat this so people can. This can soak in to everyone. Putting a child rapist at the highest levels to do your negotiations reflects on the institution and their values.

And it means that high level people knew about it and didn’t care. I mean, there are other people that can negotiate versus a child rapist. They didn’t care. Yeah, right. And it, well, and it. And I want people to dig deeper. And so what he. Because, so this guy goes up, he becomes a priest in New York and the other thing that they taught him, so he comes down, he goes to Catholic University for several years in the 60s graduates with PhD, but they taught him how to be a fundraiser. So he starts and in the 90s, he gets tapped by the State Department to travel around the world to be like a freedom of religion representative for the State Department.

Well, he’s traveling around the world and passing out money. That’s what CIA operatives do. They bribe their way into intelligence operations. That’s what he was doing. He went to Iran many times, very close with Iranians. He went to China eight times, very close with China. It’s not like they were sending him to the poor countries. They were sending him to the intelligence gathering areas. Can I ask you, how much does the Vatican control the CIA? When you start thinking about this, I think they’re very close. And if you look at the Vatican, the Vatican is a gigantic intelligence operation.

It has been for decades, it has been for thousands of years. They’ve got a central focus, they’ve got a global reach, they’ve got local representation. The local parish priests get intelligence on the community. They bring it back to the bishop, the bishop sends it back to Rome and they get funding from the community. They know what’s happening around the world. Intelligence agencies and politicians and kings and queens have always tapped into the Vatican. It’s like there as a political entity of its own, its own power. Well, the Vatican had authority over the kings and queens in Europe for right.

Centuries. I mean they were. Yeah. And I’m just wondering how, how that power dynamic has shifted to having control over presidents and administrations. Specifically to what I’ve seen. It started after World War II out of our CIA. The CIA, this guy Angleton. The CIA was born out of the OSS Office of Strategic Security, I think strategic something. OSS, well they were based in Rome, they were based out of Vatican. A guy named Bill Donovan started him and Angleton was right there as it started as an intelligence officer in the U.S. army. And then they created the CIA in almost lockstep with what the Vatican was doing, you know, and the Vatican was and, and what their goal was and was to stop communism.

They weren’t that worried about the Nazis. So the Nazis getting spread around the world didn’t bother. Now the CIA, a lot of Nazis came here to America. A lot went. Yeah. Operation and a lot went other parts of the world, including Argentina. The Pope, Pope Francis, recently deceased, had a connection with the dictatorship that was in Argentina in the 70s that was part of a CIA operation called Operation Condor. He would go and meet these right wing dictators and it was kind of well known and well reported and then he’d go back to his, his Jesuit priests and some of them got it because they were working with sort of communist elements in the poverty stricken areas.

They were arrested, kidnapped, tortured, eventually released. But they blame this guy for, for setting him up. And, and at the time, his name was Bergoglio. Bergoglio. Father Bergoli always said, well, I was trying to help them. I wasn’t, you know, betraying them. Yeah, right. It’s a black mark in his past and. Well, there’s a lot of black. Correct. In his past. And the CIA is part of. And the CIA was part of McCarrick. Bingo. Well, okay, so there is evidence in CIA documents that. And you know, I, I’ve had people when I, when I taught at school, I had students who were from Argentina told me that it was a known thing that Hitler was in Argentina.

Like everybody just knew. That’s. Those documents are coming out now. I don’t speak Spanish. I’d be reading them right now, but unfortunately they’re in Spanish, so I gotta wait for a translation. But it is kind of interesting that the local people just knew. I mean, he was just living there and people knew and it was the rest of the world. And the, the fact that we didn’t cover it and the news didn’t cover it, that, I mean, it’s like that with anything. If a fall, if a tree falls in the forest and nobody sees it and nobody covers it, did the tree fall? I mean, that’s what we’re dealing with.

Yeah, it fell. It just, we just don’t know about it. Just be. Yeah, and that’s. If the local people all knew and it was, then it probably happened. Okay, so your experience is so over the top. I mean, compared to others, it’s incredible. What else did you see? I mean, Obama was worshiped. I agree with that. And I think because of his worshiping, they allowed him to get away with, with murder, essentially. But, but people are saying that Trump has that same worship. Now. It’s not as broad and not as all encompassing as Obama, but in a lot of ways Trump has been worshiped and, and idolized like Obama.

And people are, are saying that now he’s also hated. Obama was not hated. Trump’s hated. But, but people compare that. What, what would you say when you hear that since you got to see it? So really good question. Obama. So I go into Biden. That was my background. I think Biden was more the puppeteer than the puppet. I think Biden had leverage on Obama. If you look at the sort of, the Sequence events of how Biden got into vice presidency. In June of 2008, this guy named Larry Sinclair shows up in D.C. with this crazy story about being a limo driver in Chicago, smoking crack and having gay sex with a guy named Barack Obama.

And he presents it to the media at the National Press Club. He walks out of there and gets arrested by Beau Biden. He gets transported to Delaware, held in jail for two months, and then released. In those two months, Joe Biden becomes a vice president. They have Democratic National Convention, and he and Barack are off to the race. He. He had blackmail on him. Interesting. Well, blackmail is the currency of the powerful. So that’s. So that’s Biden. So you’re asking about the difference between Obama and Trump. Trump was completely unexpected. I mean, I was sitting in the White House in 2015.

I watched one of his speeches, and I was like, that guy’s gonna win. Everybody around me wasn’t in complete denial when I say everybody. I mean political operatives and the Biden people, but also the media. I mean, I was in a. I was in a van. So they genuinely didn’t. They were. They thought Trump was done on any day. I was in a van in Ukraine with Peter Baker from the New York Times and Margaret Taleb, who was then with Bloomberg, now the Axios, and they had this conversation based on Trump come out and saying, I’m stopping all immigration from Arab countries because they just had this terrible shooting at the nightclub in Paris.

They had this awful massacre. And these guys in this van. This is New York Times, this is Bloomberg. Their senior correspondents are like, this is the end of his. Of his campaign. He can’t go far. This was December 2015. And by the way, there was a lot of Biden corruption that happened on that trip, too, that I write about. And neither of them have ever written about it. And I knew they saw all of it, and I knew these people were either stupid or paid to be politically inept, and that’s what they were. And they’d been that way all the time.

And so Trump comes in, and the whole world is, like, freaking out. And so that’s what’s in this book. The. Are they. Are they freaking out? Not as much because they don’t like him, but because he wasn’t part of their pick. I see them as two different facts. He was somebody’s behind Trump. Right? There are powerful people behind Trump, and it’s just not their faction. They’re powerful. That’s exactly right. Trump figured out the formula. But, you know, on Trump’s side. I will say as someone who worked in the White House for as long as I did, I saw reelection campaigns in 2004 for Bush to 2012 for Obama.

Trump went to places and met with people that had, no one had ever gone to. He met with people where they lived. He had a plane, he had money of his own. He did his own campaign. And they, and you know, the bureaucracy, the deep state, whatever you want to call it, the political elite couldn’t accept that. But he did it, he got away with it. And you know, I, I wrote a book about it called Joe Biden unauthorized 2020 campaign. And basically, you know, Trump campaigned in, in Wisconsin. Hillary Clinton never campaigned in Wisconsin. She never campaigned in, in Michigan.

Trump worked his butt off and, and eventually Pence did too. Those guys worked their way into the White House. And when he got there, he was surrounded by these rhinos and this establishment. And so he’s worked his, you know, what happened was, and this, he still is, he still is surrounded by that. But people started recognize, we don’t want this establishment going just rolling over. I, I, I was on a, another podcast a while ago and somebody asked me, are we at the edge of, of the cliff? Are we constantly at the edge of the cliff? And what I said is, no.

What I think happens is we’re being smothered. And they use the edge of the cliff metaphor to keep us scared. So they smother us. Huh. Interesting. Now, did you get to see Clinton in action? No. Hillary just a Secretary of State here and there, not close up. Okay. And so you didn’t get to see her evil deeds. You, because you weren’t following her, you were following more Biden and then Obama or Obama and then obedience. Okay, now I gotta get back to Biden controlling Obama versus the other way around. A lot of people said that, you know, when Biden was senile and doing nothing, that Obama was now controlling Biden from behind the scenes.

He moved. Most presidents move away from Washington D.C. he actually had a house right there. I mean, he was there all the time when he, there’s a famous scene where he came in and, and Biden was there and he was there. Biden was president. Everybody was shaking Obama’s hands and ignoring Biden. That was incredible. And the reason why it’s so incredible is because people cower or, or pander to power. And what that showed is that Biden didn’t have any power. So that showed that Obama had more power than Biden. So what does that mean? Is it just because he Became senile and people were like, okay, well, that’s good question.

So we’re going to get into some stuff. So that specific event I remember clearly to me. So you’re looking at Obama at that time. He’s the Hollywood A list president and Americans love Hollywood. He signed deals with Hollywood, Netflix and all this stuff. And he goes into the White House. Biden did not have big, big connections into Hollywood. They liked him because he did the gay marriage thing. But it’s not just Hollywood though, because in politics they pander to people with power to get their stuff done, to get themselves moving. So it wasn’t just the glitz of Hollywood because I think Hollywood has lost their, they just, it’s, they’ve lost their reign for a lot of.

But I know they’re still big, but it’s the right they have. So, but to me. So Biden comes in. Biden is a 50 year old vet in Washington. He knows how to start things here. He knows how to stop things. He knew that all along. I always had the impression. So if you look at Biden’s career in the White House, he got all the big assignments. He was the guy who went to China, he was the China Manchurian Candidate. He really was. He went to Ukraine, he did the Recovery act to get the, to get the economy back up and running after the mortgage bust.

He did all this stuff. Obama just, I’ll say this as an insider, my impression of Obama in the second half of his, of his, from 2014 on, he was just playing golf. He cared more about his golf game than anything. And Biden really, he really didn’t even get involved. Biden was angling to be president until Beau died in 2015. When Beau died in 2015, Biden basically took the wind out of his sails. And Hillary was the choice. They went with Hillary. They thought they had this whole thing rolled out. Trump comes up and Trump pulls it off and they can’t believe it.

And they started working against Trump almost as soon as the election was over in 2016. They actually started the Wuhan pandemic in November of 2016. But the Wuhan pandemic was just not Trump oriented. It was worldwide. I think it was, I think what happened was they, they first they just thought he was going to fall in his face, but he started doing really well. Then they set up this fake impeachment in 2019. He weathered that storm. But you have to ignore, I mean, I mean, so you have to ignore so much other evidence to think that it was just about Trump getting Him out of office office because the World Economic Forum and the World Health Organization and all this stuff with pandemics, there is a ton of, of facts and data and information of them planning something like this for decades.

So I, I look at a very. You just think they use that, I mean there’s, it’s a multiple agendas. Essentially this was their agenda and they just said, well, let’s just use. Biden plays a key role. In 2011, on a trip to China, Biden gets in front of a group of audience in Sichuan University in Chengdu, China and says, you have too many old people. Your one child policy means that for every person working in the workforce, you have four elderly. And that’s unsustainable. They started working on a virus from that point on to get rid of old people.

Eight years later it did. That’s awful. That’s. But it’s true. I mean, oh, I’m like, oh, it’s awful. As if I haven’t heard awful for and my listeners for a decade now. Okay, what is, I mean this is amazing information. What is. If you were to say a couple things that you really want to get out, a message out based on your experience, what would those be? By my books. Well, but I mean, what, what a couple. You’re. One little sentence isn’t going, is probably going to get people more interested in buying your books. But what messages would you say that you really learned? That was a shocker for yourself.

That kind of transfer formed your whole period. Well, I think it goes to that. What comes out of Washington is what’s not being told. Don’t trust Congress. I’ve been in, I’ve been interviewed by Congress. They don’t want to work for you. I mean, you’ve got to. What I would say is look at the way the founding fathers set our country up. They set it up with these contrary oppositional forces. You’ve got to be part of that oppositional force if you don’t want to have it taken, taken over. If you don’t want your life smothered. There is so much smothering going on right now.

It’s happening with the Internet. It’s happening with cell phones, it’s happening media, it’s happening everywhere. It’s happening with health. Trump has brought in some real interesting people. Bobby Kennedy Jr’s got an eye on changing the way we do our health. These are real this. But he’s controlled too. I mean there’s like some of the stuff that’s coming out with some of the people that are around him. It’s really sad because good people, it gets back to when you’re surround, you’re smothered by that force. It’s really hard. So you’ve got to think for yourself. You’ve got to do your own, you know, don’t trust the, the regular media.

This is a good forum for everybody. Keep watching Sarah. And, and you know, I appreciate it. X is an important, I don’t get my media from anywhere else but X. Now that’s free speech. Well, X, X still has to stop some of their shadow banning and suppressing. I hope they clear that out because it’s still happening, but it’s way better than it was. But I gotta tell you, I, I, one of the things that really opened my eyes is when I was covering a human trafficking case that was local and I had all these experts, it was, they were so good.

And the local media did a cover up and a front on it because it had to do with a senator and a famous, you know, child that went missing. And I was floored because I got to see firsthand how the media lies and distorts things. I don’t even know if the people that are reading even know because I think they’re just actors and they’re given the information and they just read it and they’re kind of dumb to it. I think it’s the people feeding it and creating it and, and that’s why when you listen to some of these local people, you actually trust them because they think they’re telling the truth and they don’t realize that they’re being massively manipulated.

But as an investigative journalist, when I saw that firsthand, it was, that was a, that changed my life. It was a paradigm changing thing. I would imagine you went through that steroids. I, I frankly, I don’t consider myself a journalist. I’m a witness. And what I find is they won’t let me be a witness under oath in front of a grand jury. They do not want that. I’ve begged them. I presented myself to the special counsel who was investigating Biden. I gave him information, I chased one of those guys down the street and said, talk to me about grand jury.

I’m a witness. I can’t talk to you about grand jury. I can’t talk to you about grand jury. That was at the Hunter Biden trial a year ago. And so they are. So this is what’s. All right, you asked for one sense, this is what’s important. You’re talking to somebody who sat in the Front row of the White House briefing room. I watched the media all the time, the very carefully managed media, but I also looked at the President and the Vice President of the. Of the United States in a variety of characters there. They are so scared of us.

They are so scared of us figuring it out. And we’re getting a lot closer to it with Trump than we ever have. These are the days of understanding what’s really going on. You got to buy the books. You know, my book will never be on the New York Times bestseller list. They’ll never let that happen. Even if it was the number one selling book. They won’t allow that to happen. They won’t allow the PR of it to happen. It’s not. So it could be the number one selling. They just won’t let it. Or they’ll buy. They.

Or they fake the other purchases to make them look higher. That’s why I freely say Peter Baker is a lousy reporter. He’s not a journalist. And that would. That’s a lot of media in D.C. would never say that. Well, share. Who paid her share. Who? Peter Baker, New York Times Washington correspondent for years and years, fraudulent reporter. And you know firsthand, because you saw it. That’s what I’m saying. Where you see it firsthand, you know what you saw, and then you watch them report something. 180. I had Pearson Sharp on, and he was down in Syria and right where the chemical attack was supposed to happen.

And he interviewed all the people in that neighborhood. And everybody’s like, we saw nothing. And how do the people in that neighborhood see nothing? Then he went to the hospital where all these people were supposed to die. And the doctors were like, nobody died. And then the Reuters reporter was there with him, hearing the same stuff. And then he watched her go out and go. You wouldn’t believe all the bodies that are back there. And it’s a bloodbath. And it’s like, yeah, yes, that’s. That’s the shocker that I saw. And you. Yeah. To see, too. And he did, too.

And until you see, it’s hard until you see it firsthand. When Trump says fake news, until you see it firsthand, it’s hard to fathom that you’re being lied to. And so. And so this goes to what we’ve been talking about. The, the Vatican, the clergy, the White House. Evil can be right in front of you, and you don’t see it until you understand what’s really there. That’s right. And it can be in all of our institutions, shielded, made up, propped up, as if this is the best, most moral, great institution and they hide evil in there because it’s the easiest.

And people don’t want to use the word evil. They think it should only be in the Bible. I put it in the title of my book for a reason. And people are, you know, there’s a lot of. Lot of anti Trump people out there who don’t want to understand that there is evil forces at work in our world at a. At high levels it. That are smothering us and they don’t. They would rather just sort of go through life and what. And if they don’t accept the Christian view or some kind of biblical view, then they should accept at least energy.

If there’s dark energy, which I think dark energy is evil. I mean, you can look at it the same way. Most of them believe in that stuff, then at least they know that exists. Right. So I don’t. But this is a fantastic conversation. Okay. Where can people follow you and buy your books? Because it sounds like those are a monster. Yes. Thank you. So I’m on X at Joe Unauthorized, on Truth Social at Joe Unauthorized. My books are on Amazon and Almost Insurmountable Evil. How Obama’s Deep State Defiled the Catholic Church and Executed Wuhan Pandemic and a Case to Impeach and Imprison Joe Biden.

I hope I get to testify about both those. My substack is Midnight in a Laptop. I’m Good and Evil. Sign up. We’ve got free subscriptions. You can be a paid subscriber, whatever you want. Can I ask you one last question? How are you? Has your life been threatened and how are you staying? My life has not been threatened that I know of. I pray a rosary every day. I feel confident based on that. And you know one thing, I go back and forth with Archbishop Pagano, who was the guy who sort of outed McCarrick’s evil for the.

That was done in Vatican. And one thing I told him was, Archbishop, we’re just telling truth. And the truth is God’s word. And when you speak the truth, you’re speaking God’s word and God’s on your side. And I feel like that. And I’m not worried about what’s ahead. Yeah, I think that’s true. When you’re a person of truth and a person of goodness and purity, as much as you can be right, we’re fail. We’re flawed human beings. I do think there’s a protection there. I. I feel that too. Okay, well, thank you so much and have a wonderful rest of your day and people need to follow you.

Thanks, Sarah Sa.
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