Whistleblower: This Is How the Financial System Really Works

➡ Sarah Westall, the host of Business Game Changers, interviews Ian Clifford, a former banker and whistleblower. Clifford shares his experience of being warned about a financial crisis by top bankers at the Bank of Scotland, who told him they would seize assets when the crisis hit. He also discusses his work educating people about the banking system and offering a product to help with tax reappropriation. Westall encourages listeners to learn more about the banking system and to check out Clifford’s webinars on her website.
➡ The text discusses the financial crisis of 2008 and its impact on banks and individuals. It also delves into the history of banking, including the establishment of the Federal Reserve in 1913 and the permanent bankruptcy of the United States in 1933. The text further explains the concept of arbitrage in banking and how it can be used to create significant profits. Lastly, it touches on the ethical dilemmas faced by those in the financial industry and the importance of whistleblowing in exposing malpractices.
➡ The text discusses a financial strategy where a bank provides a credit line to acquire life insurance assets. These assets are more valuable than the credit line, reducing the bank’s risk. The speaker also mentions a practice where life insurance policies are bought for more than their surrender value but less than their actual worth. This strategy was popular and led to the speaker’s firm growing significantly. However, the speaker suggests that the 2008 financial crisis was artificially created to seize assets, and criticizes the current money system for creating unnecessary poverty and crises.
➡ The text suggests that investing in physical assets like gold, silver, and land is a safer and more profitable option than other financial instruments. This is because these assets are not controlled by banks or other institutions, and their value often increases during times of economic uncertainty. The text also warns about the risks of investing in complex financial programs, which can lead to significant losses if not properly understood. Lastly, it emphasizes the importance of understanding the fine print in any investment contract to avoid potential fraud.
➡ The speaker discusses the power dynamics in various industries, particularly the financial sector, where he believes banks and large investment firms control the markets, not regulators. He suggests that these entities manipulate the system to their advantage, creating a form of financial monopoly. He also criticizes the crypto industry, arguing that it’s not the solution to financial freedom as it’s heavily regulated by the same entities controlling the traditional financial system. He believes the answer lies in creating parallel systems outside of the established order, despite the potential risks of scams and fraud.
➡ The text discusses the concept of an artificial, debt-based financial system where people believe they own assets like houses, cars, and businesses, but these are actually registered to the state. It suggests that this system, established through the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, creates a modern form of slavery where people work hard but never truly own anything. The text also mentions the growing global poverty and the potential for social unrest if wealth doesn’t reach the lower economic classes. It ends by suggesting that major crises, like wars, are used to bring about significant changes in the system.
➡ Diane Kaser discusses a product that has shown promising results in improving athletic performance and weight loss in preclinical studies with mice. The product is affordable and can be purchased with a discount code. She also expresses her concerns about the lack of transparency and understanding in the money system, suggesting that it’s a tool for control. She believes that people should be more informed and question the system, but acknowledges that many choose not to due to fear or comfort in their current situation.
➡ The speaker believes that humans naturally desire peace and are against violence, including wars and genocides. They express frustration with the current world leaders, suggesting the need for alternative systems. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of truth, freedom, and health, and encourages people to think for themselves and learn about the system. They mention their work in educating people about the system and how to use it to their advantage, despite the challenges and limitations.

My firm at the time has about £1 billion worth of assets. The bank has got a credit line, there’s thousands of these portfolios. Everybody’s doing really well. And I get invited to a meeting in Edinburgh with some of the top bankers at bank of Scotland and they basically tell me that next year there’s going to be a crisis and when that crisis hits, the bank is going to take the assets because they can. Thank you for listening, thank you for sharing and please subscribe below and think about joining my substack@Sarah Westall.substack.com or my newsletter. You can sign up for that as well@Sarah Westall.com and remember to give a thumbs up and to subscribe on the platform that you’re watching.

Welcome to Business Game Changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have an inside banker, his name is Ian Clifford, who has worked at the highest level of but the highest level, but pretty high up in as a financial engineer. He worked with the bank of Scotland, he worked with insurance companies. He blew the whistle in 2008 during the financial cris and got smeared everywhere for it. He’s going to explain that story. I’m giving him a platform to be able to explain his side of the story. He’s a very controversial character to say the least. But I think what he’s saying I, I’ve spent the last good three weeks vetting him out and vetting out what he’s telling people.

I’ve had him talk to other bankers that I know who also told me that this guy knows what he’s talking about. And I think he’s on to something. He’s educating people about how the system really works. He’s providing a product to people and I think that people have to be careful with the product because Even though it’s 100, I think it’s 100% legal, I think it’s everything. He’s dotted his eyes and crosses, you know, T’s and it’s helping people with reappropriating the tax and he’s going to explain this. So many people have tried to do this and they’re just not doing it right is because he’s not looking at it from a sovereign standpoint, he’s looking at it from a how does the banking system really work? And he’s educating people on how it really works.

But even so you have to be really careful because you never know, you know who’s going to take notice. Now that being said, you, you need to do your own homework. But he has webinars here so that you can learn about how the banking system really, really works. At minimum, I think that it’s important that there’s more of us that learn about this and that we can come up with solutions and parallel systems and create free, you know, free communities. I don’t think truth, understanding how things work, I think is God’s work. I really do. I think keeping people ignorant to what’s really happening is, is it’s just the opposite of what you should be doing in life.

And if I know that there’s a truth and that somebody is sharing it, I think it’s important that you learn it. What you do with that is your responsibility. But I think it’s important that you have at least have access to it. I am going to post on my substack, so if you go to sarahwestall.substack.com I’m going to link some of some of his webinars there on this post and I’m going to share it with my subscribers. So if you’re interested, I’m going to do it more of a limited basis for or people who are more serious, who want to learn more.

I’m also going to include some additional parts of this interview that we did that I’m going to do just on my substack. So this will just be a preview of what he can share with you. And I’m going to have additional elements on my substack. So go to my substack, you can get links to the webinar and you can learn more there. Again, Sarah Westall, substack Calm. And let’s get into this really interesting conversation that I have with Ian Clifford. Hi, Ian. Welcome to the program. Well, thank you, Sarah. It’s been a long time. I’ve been watching your show for many years and that’s a long time.

And I knew I would come on at some stage. So thank you for inviting me. Well, that’s interesting to hear. I, I’ve just got to know who you are. So many people you know watch me and I don’t, I don’t know who they are yet. And then I, once I learned about you, I was like, yeah, this is an interesting person. And you have a pretty, you’re pretty known in the United Kingdom because you were a pretty successful banker in the uk People in the United States maybe haven’t heard of you as much, but they’re starting to.

But you blew the whistle in 2008. You claim you blew the whistle. They obviously will put you into a different light. But I’ve worked with a lot of whistleblowers over the years and I know that there is a difference between smearing a whistleblower and what the truth really is. And that whenever you go after powerful people, they do some pretty mean smear. I was smeared on the front page of Google search as a porn star. The worst thing you could possibly do to a female. I understand what it’s like to be smeared. So when I hear I didn’t do it.

I mean, come on. So. So when I see people being smeared, I don’t immediately believe anything anymore. Especially if you were doing some high level exposure of things that are against the powerful. Well, yeah, these things, you know, you walk into these things sometimes without realizing what you’re into already. And I, that’s what happened to me. I basically, I basically had a joint venture with the bank of Scotland that started in the year 2000. Unbeknownst to me, they’d made me and my firm a patsy for a fraud that they had planned many years in advance. And it didn’t unfold for me until about 2007 when my joint venture with them is going really well.

I’ve got lots of future plans. And they basically told me before the alleged financial crisis that there was going to be a crash in the world markets, that the banks were going to get under a lot of liquidity pressure, which I now know is complete and utter nonsense because I know a lot more about how the money system works now than I did then. Even though I was a money manager, wealth manager, money manager, they don’t teach you how the system really works. I was a bit. The people. Right. Most of the people who are money managers and financial managers and things have no idea what they’re part of.

Yeah, they really, they really don’t know what is, what’s going on. Because in all the courses and qualifications that you do, nobody ever teaches you how the system really works. They really don’t want you to know. So. So I’m just gonna have to. Just bear with me one moment. I have a caller coming in repeatedly. That’s okay. You’re getting spammed. Are you getting called? Please don’t call me. I’m in the middle of an interview. Okay. My daughter was. Sometimes my daughter was. She doesn’t do that anymore, but when she was younger she’d call me like 15 times.

Why are you not answering? Yeah, I told you. Yeah, I have my WhatsApp connected to my computer, so it comes through on the computer as well. As the phone. So I need to send her a message. Otherwise she’ll just keep on calling. Thinking business. Yeah, Business associates won’t bomb you with call after call, but your family members will and especially your kids. Sometimes your wife does. Going back to the story. So, you know, I was in wealth management. I became a fund manager. I was doing a lot of financial engineering. I became pretty well known in the uk.

I got the opportunity for a joint venture with the bank of Scotland that at the time had massive worldwide growth plans. They had a very aggressive business plan and they saw me as a very interesting partner for one of their divisions in Edinburgh, which is where their head office is, still is now. Because I used to do quite a few unusual, exotic financial engineering type projects. And they, they work. They wanted me to basically use their credit line and match it with assets that I could acquire from the marketplace and create an arbitrage. And that arbitrage was based on the life insurance assets.

So I could acquire life insurance policies from the market, blend them together into portfolios and that would throw off a yield like an annual growth rate which was in excess of the cost of the credit line. And if you did that over and over again, you’d grow this big fund. Right. That’s what arbitrage is, is constant loop. Grow that difference until you get a big pot of money sitting there. Basically, I had identified a way of acquiring life insurance policies from the policyholders who didn’t want them anymore. I could buy them, put them into a portfolio and then use a bank credit line to acquire more.

And the rate of growth on the portfolio of life insurance assets, very secure from a banking. I’m not a banker by the way, but from a banking point of view, you are lending against the balance sheet of insurance companies. Well now this got caught up into the 2008 financial crisis. Right. And there’s. Yeah. And so I want you to talk about that a little bit because a lot of people lost everything they had. There were banks like, which is very well documented. So much of this is well documented so people can go out and look themselves.

And I think anytime that people watch a show or anytime I have high level whistleblowers on, it’s really important that you go and do your own research and realize that there’s nuances here. But when Lehman Brothers was taken down, it was pretty well understood that they could have been saved too. But the people that were saved were the ones. There’s the ones who are the most powerful got to decide who their friends were and who their Friends weren’t, and their friends were not Lehman Brothers. And that’s why they went down. There was a series of banks that were taken out of the equation because there’s people in the banking world who didn’t want to go along with the, with the, with the agenda.

Basically you go all the way back to 1913. If you read the book, the Creature from Jekyll island, you know, G. Edward Griffin’s book. Everybody should read that book, by the way. There were bankers who didn’t want the Federal Reserve to come in. There were bankers on the Titanic. Yeah. Who didn’t obviously survive. And then they brought the Federal Reserve in. Major, major tipping point in world finances is the Federal Reserve Act. There were a lot of bankers who didn’t want that and they were killed on the Titanic. And people don’t realize that. Who was on that Titanic? I mean, I know Astor was, there was other.

He was the wealthiest man, period, I think at that time, at least publicly wealthy because there’s always wealthier people that nobody knows about. But he was massive. There’s a whole bunch of them, tycoons, banking families, the principals, you know, the, the, the guys who are making the decisions for their family banks were on that ship. And you know that to me there was no coincidence. There was a, you know, the Titanic sunk. Those guys obviously didn’t survive. And then those that did survive carried on with the Federal Reserve act, which came in during a period of time where basically if the Senate was on, on vacation, which is what they always do.

Yeah, Bring these bits. Christmas Eve, wasn’t it? They bring them in, they publish 500 page dossiers. Nobody reads them, they bring them in and nobody objects. And then suddenly you’ve got this new way of doing things which nobody really wants. But very few people paid attention and those that did probably didn’t even understand the implications of it. It would have only been the bankers who really understood what the significance of the Federal Reserve act is. And then you’ve got, in 1933, you’ve got House Joint Resolution 192, which is, for me, it’s the most pivotal thing that’s ever happened in the money system.

Well, explain that. Yeah, yeah. It’s the permanent bankruptcy of the United States. And I don’t think people realize that. They still don’t know that, that we’re in a bankruptcy state. It’s a permanent reorganization. They describe it as a reorganization. So it’s actually a Chapter 11 bankruptcy. See, the United States as a corporate entity was in hock to the Rich bloodline banking families. They created the boom years of the 1920s. You then have the Great Depression. You have the biggest stock market crash in world history in the early 1930s. They encourage people to take credit lines to buy stocks and shares and wiped everybody out.

Yeah, yeah. There’s the old saying. If the shoe shine guy is recommending what stocks to buy, you know the market’s about to crash. Well, that’s what was going on. You know, the shoe shine guy, you’re brilliant. Yeah. The big thing back then, you have your shoes shined. If that guy’s giving you investment recommendations, you know, the market is heat overheated, it’s going to crash today. They made it boom and then they made it crash because they wanted to bring in the money system that we have today. And they couldn’t do that unless there was a lot of pain.

There had to be blood on the streets, as they say in the banking parlance. They had to create pain. They do the same every time. You know, David Icke says problem, reaction, solution. But it’s no different in the money markets and these booms and busts. Well, in 1970, in 1973, they changed the way the stocks are held. Before that point, you used to have sovereign ownership of stocks. And then in 1973, they changed it where you just were granted right to that stock. And the actual ownership is the trading house, right? Yeah, I mean, it gets a lot deeper than that, Sarah.

What we’re all doing is, I call it the game of Monopoly. So we’re playing like an artificial game. It looks real and it feels real because you’re either doing well or you’re not doing well. You may be doing great, having a lot of prosperity, or maybe you’re in debt, maybe you can’t pay your taxes. So it all fails. Very, very real. But the reality is there is no substance to the money system. Well, we want. Well, and I want to talk about that and how they’re trading. They’re using our, our future tax money, which is. It makes sense.

Okay. We will create cash flow with our taxes and our license fees and everything. And just like businesses create cash flow with their future sales. Right. And because of their future sales, you can take that and get loans from it because you are cash flowing now. And they use that to create loans. They can. And in this case, they use it to create bonds. It all makes sense. But before we get into all of that, and I know you can talk about it in a very simplistic way so people can start to really understand It I want to understand what you blew the whistle on and why you were so.

Why they didn’t like you. I mean, because you did blow the whistle. You could have kept your mouth shut. Why didn’t you keep your mouth shut? What was it proposed to you to keep your mouth shut so that you could have skated like everybody else? I mean, a lot of people lost everything at that time. People lost their homes. It was terrible. People that lived through it. You know, a lot of people have got a perception that, you know, successful money guys have, you know, they’re like reptilian. They have no empathy. They don’t care. They’ll do anything.

They’ll sell out their mother. They’ll, you know, they’ll sell any, anything just to make a buck. But I wasn’t like that. I’m a bit unusual. All of the programs that I developed and I’ve developed many solutions across my career. I enjoy solving complex problems. I enjoy giving people a benefit from my programs because I think there’s always a solution to every problem. And I use my financial engineering skills to solve some pretty big problems. That arbitrage, that’s financial engineering. Nobody’d ever done it before. The bank recognized the potential. And it wasn’t just for the uk we were going to develop it into Europe.

We were going to come to the U.S. in fact, I did an arbitrage, similar arbitrage in the US which we maybe talk about later. Well, arbitrage itself has been in existence for a long time. I know people doing it in the 90s, right. And so I know it was way before that. So the idea of arbitrage is very stable in there. It was just the way you did it for that particular instrument. Okay. I want people to understand arbitrage is first, basically there’s a, there’s, there is a differential between two rates that’s very, very simple. It’s not that complicated.

It’s, it’s very easy to understand it. If you can earn more than you’re paying out, that’s an arbitrage. In fact, nearly everybody who’s running a business is running an arbitrage. They, they bring cash flow in, they pay cash flow out. There’s a difference between the two. That’s an arbitrage and that’s the profit. And if you do it over and over and over again in the banking systems is have not you guys, but they have all these instruments to do it and they’ve created all these schemes and they can create overnight huge piles of money doing that.

Yeah. Well, see, what I got, I developed was for a banker, it was, it was a heaven for them. Right, because the banks don’t want to take a risk. They want to be what’s called over collateralized. They want to, that’s good cashier up there. If they, if they’ve given a, you know, put a line of credit into a program, they want to be whole, they want to get out of that if they want to very, very quickly without taking any risk. So what I brought to them was the ability to provide a credit line straight from the bank that would acquire life insurance assets, which I, my firm is acquiring, that had a value far in excess of the credit line.

So they were never going to be exposed to a risk of losing out on the credit line. The growth rate of the assets was outstripped the cost of the credit. So there was a natural cash flow arbitrage within these portfolios. So they had, it was a banker’s dream. They could lend billions of pounds against life insurance assets. And if they wanted to get out of it, all they had to do was cash in the assets and they would be made back whole again. Well, how did you get. Okay, keep going. So, you know, I had identified that at the time, and this was early in 2000, it was around year 2000, there were millions of policyholders in the UK who didn’t want to keep their life insurance policies anymore.

There was an inherent value in these policies and the life companies were providing what’s called a surrender value. So for example, you might have got $30,000 if you surrendered the life policy back to the life insurance carrier. I could offer you $40,000 for the, for that life policy. But the life policy is actually worth $55,000. Why is there a difference? The life. But because the life insurance company penalized people for getting out of the sense. Okay, so they’re having like a, so you have like a 25 year contract, right? And you want to get out of it in year 10.

That makes sense. So you were getting that difference. Now how did you get, how did this get caught up into the 2008 financial crisis? And, and why? Because you had other things that you did too, because you managed a lot of wealthy individuals and their portfolios. And how did you get. I basically started off in wealth management. I did family offices. I managed some very wealthy people. I managed all their finances. And I started to build financial engineering programs to achieve things like I’ve just described. I did a whole range of different programs. I got on the radar of the bank of Scotland.

I got invited to a meeting. Suddenly I’m talking with people on the board of the bank about, you know, what we could do together. They wanted to get in to basically they wanted to become one of the world’s biggest banks. They were almost there. They had a very aggressive growth plan. They love lending against property. They bought what’s called the Halifax, which was the biggest building society in the UK in the early 2000s. Suddenly they became the biggest lender against property in the uk. Now the life insurance policies are like lending on property, but better because property markets go up and down.

The life insurance assets don’t go up and down, they’re smoothed out. I see. Because the life companies smooth out the value. And that’s why it was so attractive for the now. When AIG got involved, they were a massive insurance company. Were they doing some of the same things you were doing with the bank of Scotland over here? Yeah, I actually did some business with aig. They got involved in different type of life insurance. They got involved in what you would call in the US universal life. I got very heavily involved in that as well. That’s a mortality play.

That’s like buying life policies and when people die, you get the payout and you can use that to basically build a portfolio of secondary life policies. That’s a massive industry. I got very big in that as well. Were they doing that arbitrage thing over here as well? Okay, that didn’t take hold yet. Okay. The UK insurance market’s the oldest insurance market in the world. Right. The types of life insurance policies that run in the UK are very different from the us. The US doesn’t have an equivalent of these types of life policies. These are what’s called with profit.

There is an inherent value in them. Well, we have whole life property or whole life insurance. You have whole life universal. But that’s not the same thing. You’re saying that, that even though it builds up a value, this builds up a value quicker or what? What’s the difference? Well, the, these types of life insurance policies were used to pay off a mortgage. So people would take a mortgage for 25 years, they would put a premium into a life policy for 25 years. At the end of 25 years, the life policy should have accumulated enough value to paid the mortgage off as the mortgage on an interest only basis.

There was no principal being paid down on the mortgage. So there were millions of these types of life policies. Interesting. We don’t, we don’t do that. We pay part of the well, but our mortgage Mortgages pay part of the interest and the principal here. I mean, so we’re not just doing interest. Yeah, interesting. Let’s get back to what happened to you though. Because you, you got on the radar because you’re a financial engineer that figured stuff out. You figured out how the system works. You got on the radar. You had a line of credit with the bank of Scotland, which is almost unheard of, which we can talk about that.

But you weren’t an elite financial banker in the sense that you were involved in all the real dark stuff and all the real financial engineering that took down the entire system. That the, you know, the fight right now is between. And I’m not really sure who’s on what really the fight is anymore. But the idea is that one faction is fighting another faction, taking down, you know, the old banking system. But I have a feeling that some of those old banking systems are involved in both. But regardless. And of course they do, they play both sides.

But. And that old system was awful. I mean all these occult processes, you know, occult practices, the blackmail system, all that. So they want to replace that whole blackmail system with surveillance system. And I don’t know if it’s better or not. I don’t think it’s, I mean, I don’t know if it’s better. That black man was so bad is the server. You’re losing free will. Maybe there’s not going to be individual victims anymore. So that system needs to go. But this one, I’m not happy with either the new one that’s coming in. But you weren’t part of that elite crowd.

So when you started learning about it, did they invite you in or you just never invited in but you blew the whistle because you’re like, hell, I don’t want to be part of this, this. So, so what happened was, you know, my, my firm became very big. We were the, one of the biggest firms in the UK of its type. But I had a unique range of programs that were very popular. We had a six month waiting list for people to join. So people that wanted to invest in these programs had to wait six months before they could get in because I had to go and acquire the assets.

This isn’t trading stocks and bonds where there’s an unlimited supply. I had to physically go and buy the life insurance assets from the market. So I had a big team. We had thousands of life policies that we were acquiring every month, putting them into portfolios. The banks given me the credit line, I’m managing the portfolios. Everyone’s doing very well it was very, very popular. There were wealth managers all over the UK that had their top clients, their wealthiest clients wanting to get into my programs and there was this waiting list and we got to 2007 so you know, nearly a year before the so called credit crisis, which is a complete and utter load of nonsense.

And I’ll maybe come back to why it’s a load of nonsense. There never was a credit crisis. There never can be a credit crisis in this money system that we have. You mean they, you claim that they. Man, you claim they manufactured the crisis for a purpose. Yeah, because they, what they do is they build things up so that they can steal the asset. Well, it kind of makes sense. It kind of makes sense. You know, Covid was a manufactured thing. 911 was a manufactured. This could have been another manufactured. It just. I don’t know. Once the more you investigate and you see these things, it almost becomes.

You become pretty black pilled at a certain point and then you realize that the people around you aren’t so bad and maybe we need to care more about our families and the communities around us, but keep going. When you know, many years later, I put all the pieces of the jigsaw together. I completely understand how the money system works and I can explain it maybe later on, but there should never be any poverty, there should never be any crisis. There’s never a liquidity crisis. The system is engineered so that they can create pain and misery, so that they can take assets.

You mentioned earlier in the, in the mid-70s, the assets, nobody owns their assets anymore. You know, you don’t have a stocks and shares portfolio, bond portfolio, you might own physical gold depending on where it is you might do. But if there’s any kind of financial instrument that is wrapping it, that instrument is held by a custodian and the custodian has the legal title. That’s why you need to get physical silver and have it on hand. Because I mean, and especially now that the prices have been suppressed so low. Get some flip and silver and have it sitting there.

I mean I can’t stress enough. Do it anyways, keep going. You know they say that if you’d invested in our gold and lands throughout every go back as far as you like, that’s the best portfolio that you could ever invest in real assets. To get hedge fund managers to get AI driven trading and all that kind of stuff. Just have gold, land and art in a portfolio and it will outperform anything. I’m sorry if you’re a money manager out there because have A look at your history. That portfolio outperforms anything and you actually own the asset if you can structure it so that you have legal title.

All these other things that have been created, but very exotic investment programs, they, they, they look amazing, many of them, but they don’t actually own the underlying asset because the banks own it. There’s a book called the Great Takings, well worth getting. You can actually get it on YouTube. They haven’t, they haven’t censored it because hardly anybody understands it. That’s right. I’ve had him on my show. I was at the Red Pill Expo and we spent some time together talking too. He’s, he’s a good dog. Yeah. His knowledge and mine are very similar. Right. He, I think he was taken down a pathway as I was.

And then you start to question what, what’s going on here? You know, what, what, why, why do these things happen with it? Hardly anybody notices that are very, very substantial. So going back to my story, we get to 2007. My firm at the time has about £1 billion worth of assets. The bank has got a credit line, there’s thousands of these portfolios. Everybody’s doing really well. And I get invited to a meeting in Edinburgh with some of the top bankers at bank of Scotland and they basically tell me that next year there’s going to be a crisis and when that crisis hits, the bank is going to take the assets because they can, because they have a charge over the life insurance assets.

And they basically wanted me, they wanted me to, they wanted me to tell them then whether I was going to oppose their plan or whether I was going to object and stand in the way. The economy may feel strong on the surface, but the cracks are forming and they’re growing. Debt levels are exploding, banks are fragile and government keeps printing and borrowing at historical levels. Meanwhile, silver remains one of the most undervalued assets in the world for thousands of years. When uncertainty rises, people turn to real money, physical. And gold is not someone else’s liability. It’s wealth that you can hold in your hands.

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Now, what would that have done to all of the clients? Well, wipe them out, which is what happened. So what we’re talking about, Sarah, this isn’t somebody’s investment portfolio. It’s a bit of a speculation. I don’t care whether it goes up or down. A lot of people had used their entire wealth. Their wealth manager was so impressed with the program, he put everything into this program. I wasn’t advising them to do that, but the wealth managers love the program. People took out mortgages on their main residence, their main home, to buy into this program. So when the bank took the assets, it didn’t just take investments, it took people’s houses, it took people’s businesses, it.

And many people actually committed suicide. It’s a very, it was a bad time now. Okay, so at that time, you said, no, I’m not doing this. Why are we doing. We don’t have to do this. I said, they, well, legally they could, right? I mean, that’s the way it was legally structured. So. Well, yeah, they, they had written into the fine print of the credit contracts that they could value the assets without there being any independent valuation. So they, if they wanted to value the assets right down here, they could do that. Even if it was worth 100 grand? If it was worth, if it truly was worth 100 grand, they could just say it’s worth 50 bucks.

And they knew it was worth. They know it’s worth a thousand dollars, but. Or a hundred grand, but they’re, they put it in the legal contract. Yeah. So you see, this is where I started to realize that they’d made me a patson. So I, I’m the guy, I’m this, you know, I’m this financial engineer guy. I can bring all these things in. I’ve got wealth managers all over the UK that want to work with me. And they, they put it together. So that part of the joint venture was that the credit line was under my firm’s name.

So people didn’t even realize that the bank was actually providing the credit line. They saw my firm’s name on the, on the, on all the literature, all the promotional stuff. But what, at what point is it fraud, though, just because it’s an illegal contract? I want you to continue with your thought. But at what point, just because they can, they put it in a legal contract? At what point is it Fraud on the people to just do it. Just because you put just because you can in a legal contract does not make it, should not make it right.

That’s why people are saying common law. We get back to just what’s right and wrong. Just because you can, you can legalize wrong all day long. How is that right? You know what I’m saying? What I realized, Sarah, was that they basically brought me in as a paxu. They knew that I could bring in all these assets. They wanted the assets, right? They also knew that I would bring in high net worth clients that they could, they could cross sell to. And many thousands of very high net worth clients came in, bought this program that wasn’t everybody.

Some people were wiped out. Other people survived it because they had other assets. Right? But this was the deal. The bank planned this for years in advance. They knew that they could step in at any time and say the value of the assets had fallen and therefore they could invoke a foreclosure clause within the credit line and take all the assets. They knew that they were going to do that before the alleged financial crisis of 2008. So they let the crisis unfold. You’ve got Lehman Brothers going bust, you’ve got Bear Stearns going bust, you’ve got Countthink bank in Iceland, which was the alleged trigger for the world, you know, for the financial crisis in 2008.

So they have lots of plausible deniability. They could say, hey, the stock market’s fallen, these other banks have gone bust and the value of the assets has fallen. But the reality is that the value of the assets hadn’t fallen because the life insurance companies underpin the value of the assets. That’s one of the reasons why the bank was interested in lending against the asset in the first place. So I’m telling the bank, hey, you guys say that the asset value has fallen. It hasn’t fallen because you’re basically lending against the balance sheet of the insurance companies and their balance sheets is intact.

The value of the asset hasn’t fallen. But, but they blamed you. Yes, but they blamed you saying that you weren’t being straightforward with your clients. And you were saying, no, I was just selling the products that were being sold. And you weren’t being, you weren’t being straightforward with me or anyone else that these products had this carried this risk because it was in the fine print of these legal documents. I, I think that in, in some countries if, if you are put at that much risk in fine print and people aren’t made aware that it becomes a sort of fraud too, because you have to make people aware when they’re put to that much risk.

But there’s no question about it, it was fraud, sir. It was, it was blatant racketeering. And, and I said to them before they actually started to foreclose on people’s portfolios, I’ll fight you all the way on this. Because what you’re going to do is you’re going to wipe people out. You’re also going to wipe my firm out. So, you know, you’re going to wipe my, my customers out. You’re going to wipe me out. So there was nothing about this which was attracting, but they made it clear to me that if I didn’t stand, in a way, I would be looked after.

And I am absolutely convinced. What does it mean? I don’t mind, you know, people who watch the show may, may agree or may disagree, but they’ve probably never been in the situation that I was in. There are many people risen up to the top of it of these industries. The pharma industry that, you know, the financial industry, any industry, the communications, the media, anybody. At some point, you’re probably offered an opportunity to not stand in their way because they have an agenda. That’s right. Don’t stand in their way. They’re going to look after you. Spit like the Masons.

You get right to the top. That’s right. Of the Mason going to look after you. If you don’t, this is what’s going to happen. We know that you know the situation. If you just stand down, we will take, you know, we will take care of you. What is, what does it mean in the financial industry to be taken care of? Your business was going to go, your business was going to get wiped out anyways. So in your mind, would you have been taken care of? I think they would have. I think they would have looked after me.

Because what actually happened was they were in collusion with the financial regulator. So this is when I started to realize that it’s the banks that run the regulators. It’s not the other way around. The banks rule. They, they run the money system. The regulators are there for show. So the sec, what was the Financial Services Authority, they look like they’re going to regulate the markets, but they don’t. It’s the firms in the market that control the markets. Now you have blackrock, State Street, Vanguard, the big investment banks, they run the markets. They for sure, right. So the general public would say, hey, we need a regulator to look after these Guys because they get a bit too greedy.

Well, the regulators are just like a theater, it’s like a pantomime. I can tell you from firsthand experience that no regulators anywhere in the world control the markets. The banks control the markets because they have what’s called ex nilio credit creation. And this is what unfolded from the Federal Reserve Act. The Federal Reserve Act HJR192. Coming off the gold standard in 1974. This is what the bankers have. They have ultimate control of the money system because they can create currency out of signature of their customer, which is why there should never be any financial crisis because there’s unlimited credit.

Okay, so you know, I asked the question, Sarah, tomorrow I have a weekly webinar and I lots of new people come on and I say, does anybody here on the webinar know what the value of world debt is right now? Go and have a look at the debt clock. You can go online, look at the debt clock. And that debt’s going up, spiraling up, never comes down, right? So then you say, well have a look. And if you’ve got access to the Internet, go and have a look at the imf, the International Monetary Fund, and they’ll tell you that world debt is way north of $400 trillion.

So my question to my audience is who’s it owed to? It’s a very interesting question. It’s owed back to us because all the debt was based on our future, the cash flow of our taxes and licenses and everything else. Yeah, you call that our energy, but it’s the future revenues that we are going to generate through tax, taxes and licenses. Basically it’s human labor, it’s the energy of the people, but so that 400 trillion. But to make it more concrete, it’s the taxes you’re going to pay, it’s the licenses you’re going to pay. And that’s why they can say it and that’s why it makes sense.

It’s like a business generating cash flow. It’s you. It’s like what they do to prisoners in, in prison. That prisoner generates from the state a certain amount of money every single month. So now they take that money, which is an ongoing cash flow flow, and they have all these financial instruments. That’s why the United States has all these prisoners. Because man, there’s a good financial system here. I mean, that’s what. It’s a tax farm. It’s a tax farm. And that includes interest on debt because interest on debt is tax. Okay, so now we used to, in this country in the United States, I know that you were from uk but in the United States when monopolies formed we used to have, I mean the whole point was we don’t want monopolies or institutions to have so much power that they can do anything.

Right? And we got to the point now where these are international corporations that not the United States doesn’t even have the power to do anything even if they follow the Constitution. Maybe we can insulate ourselves but we really, it’s really the world that’s at stage, you know, that’s here. I mean that’s what we’re seeing with these big tech companies too. There’s a few that are a little more privacy oriented. But in general these big tech companies have turned into weaponized environments too because they’ve become, they’ve become monopolies worldwide. And so the United States has a hard, they can’t even implement the constitutional elements of a, of a monopoly because it’s a worldwide monopoly.

So what do we do? Well, there’s cartels. You know nearly every industry is, is run by a cartel. The banking cartel is the bloodline. Banking families, they still run it today. If you look at the infrastructure, the, the bank for International Settlements, the IMF then come down to the, the, you know the, the, the, the, the, the sort of central banks then you’ve got the clearing banks, the investment banks. It’s like a big pyramid. Nearly everything. Health is a big pyramid. Media is a big pyramid. Big tech is a big, that’s why it’s falling. But their greed has gotten so bad.

And I mean that’s why we have genocide going on in the Middle East. That’s why we have a health crisis where nobody gives a shit about whether people survive or not. I mean there’s some good bright spots, I don’t want to say that. And there’s good people everywhere but the system is awful. I just went through it with my mom where she just to get oxygen. It was like how could you guys even straight face claim to be X experts in this field, right? I mean and then treat people like this. It’s incredible. And I mean you see that in every single field now where, and that’s why it’s this house of cards that are just people are just what we need alternative solutions because we can’t live like this.

Now they are. That was where how the whole crypto space supposedly started. And there are freedom oriented cryptos but have they for the most part been taken over or are there still opportunities in the crypto space? You Know, a lot of people aren’t going to like me for saying this, but you know, crypto is a, it’s regulated space. So if you want to, if you want to have a crypto business, if you want to run a crypto platform, you’ve got to have that platform regulated. You’re going to have to have it listed on an exchange. You’re now under the sec, you’re under the fca, you’re under one of the financial regulators.

And I ran a regulated business for over 30 years. You can’t do anything unless you get commissioned to do so. So how can crypto offer freedom when the very nature of it is highly regulated by the same people that are running the control system? It doesn’t make any sense to me. If you have a decentralized crypto program and everybody that is taking part in it can operate independently of the system, then fantastic. But most of the cryptos have to go through exchanges at some point to get into it or to get out of it. You’ve got to go through an exchange, the exchange is regulated.

So for me, crypto isn’t the answer. For me, the answer is people. You have a community that is trading with its, with it, you know, outside of their system. You have a parallel system that makes for you truly want to create parallel systems. Now my, my question is some people push back and say, yeah, but there’s so many scams, there’s so many shysters out there and that if it’s not regulated, average people who know pretty much nothing, which we all know that the average person knows almost nothing when it comes to financial, they’re just going to get taken to the cleaners.

So we need to have some kind of way to regulate that. Now that’s the issue, is that there’s truth to that too. Well, there is, but you know, let me, let me break it down for you, right, because the audience may or may not know these things. When you, when you really fundamentally comprehend that everybody that is operating in this money system is operating as a living soul. Yeah. So they, the human, the living soul provides the energy through a birth certificate construct. Get the birth certificate out, you’ll see a date on this, that’s a different day, that is registered on a different day from the day you were born.

This is an entity that is a decedent estate. Now, I’m not talking theory. I can prove this in the law books. And it’s also in law, in there’s many law cases in law where there is a natural person and an artificial person. So when I mentioned earlier about the monopoly board. So the whole game that we’re playing is on this artificial monopoly board. And on that board everything is operating in Chapter 11 bankruptcy. There are no assets, there’s only debt. Everything is debt based. Yeah. So people say, oh, hey, I got, you know, my house, I don’t have a mortgage.

Do they really own the house? Because the legal title to the house is registered to the state. That’s the true ownership. They might say, hey, I own a car. Do they really own the car? Because the car is registered to the state. They might say, yeah, but I’ve got a business. But do they really own the business? Because the business is registered to the state. See actually what’s going on. And then you look at investment portfolios. All of the assets are registered to the custodians. So the people have zero. They literally have nothing at all. They are all paupers.

Yeah. The system is artificial, it’s debt based. And what they’ve done is they’ve used this mechanism that was put in place from 1913, the Federal Reserve act, then House Joint Resolution 192. Then the Bankers came in and were able to create currency ex nilio. This creates a modern slavery system which enables people to believe through an illusion, through a perception of wealth. And some people will operate for 85, 90 years and never realize that they never actually owned anything and probably would never care because they had a very good time, they did very well, they had everything they wanted.

They might not be smart enough to understand it and they, they don’t care. They’re just living their life. They’re fine. But for the people who are tired of working endlessly, they don’t have enough money for retirement. They don’t have where they feel like they. All they do is work really hard and all their money goes away. Those people could, could maybe benefit from financially restructuring their life a little differently. Well, that’s why so many people are asking questions, you know, what’s going on with this system. Because the percentage of people that are on the breadline is growing worldwide.

By design, you see that every, every single industry is about control. Everything, it’s all about control. There is no money of substance. So the bankers aren’t doing it to get rich. They can create currency out of the signature of their customer. They don’t need an, they didn’t need to trade to make money. But my understanding is that the cantilever effect is real and that the elite bankers at the very top are very nervous about that money not getting to the bottom because they know that if the money doesn’t get to the very bottom, we have a French Revolution.

What happened during the French Revolution is it was the women that stood up because their children were dying and they couldn’t feed their children. And they said, I don’t give a. About, I don’t give a about me because my kids are dying. And the fear got dropped and they just went for it. I mean, it became almost savage. Right. It was like the mother bear kind of thing. That’s what the French Revolution was about. And they’re afraid that if the money doesn’t get to the base of the people that there will be a rise up in revolutions.

So they know the cantilever effect is real and they need to get that money down. But it’s not getting, getting there because of all the corruption. So even as, as corrupt and as heady as they are, they don’t want this much corruption in the system because that keeps the money from flowing all the way down to the bottom. That’s my understanding. And that it’s all screwed up. You’re absolutely right. There’s got to be what’s what they call velocity of money. There’s got to be a cash flow going around. Right. If there’s not very much economic activity, people get very.

Because a lot of unrest, people rise up. People want to fight the government on all of these kind of things. So what they do is they use debt. Everything’s based on debt. There’s so much debt in this world. And that’s how people, you know, today, if you ask a younger person today, hey, how are you going to get yourself a car, a mortgage? What are you going to do? How are you going to have your holiday? They’ll probably say, I’m going to get a debt, I’m going to get a mortgage, I’m going to get a loan, I’m going to get a credit card, whatever it is that they’re doing, ask that same question.

A hundred years ago, nobody talked about debt. They talked about earning money, saving up and then going out and spending what they’d saved up. And it was easier though they had more one. A family could live way better. Absolutely. I mean the, the cost of living today is, is a real big crisis. Even though there’s so much abundance out there and banks are providing credit lines to just about anybody who wants them, there’s still this poverty and that’s. It’s cooked, it’s baked into the cake in the way that the banks create the debt. Do you Think they screwed up? Did they screw up? But if people are.

It’s one thing about having as many clothes as you want or being able to have some of the shallow stuff, but it’s another thing which is cheap. What’s not cheap is health insurance, living expenses, the important things. And they can’t afford it. They can’t afford to. To eat, they can’t afford to keep their apartments. They can’t afford. I mean, people are literally living like slaves. And it’s getting to the majority of people. I’m. I’m living comfortably to the most part, you know, because I don’t feel like I’m. But I have to work harder than I’d like to.

Right. We don’t. We. You want. You want to be able to relax at some point. And people don’t feel like they can. The only people that can. Or maybe if you’ve invested your whole life and now you can just retire at age 40. But in general, people are not living like that. So when you say that we have more abundance and that they. It was by design, we could do more then, and there’s more abundance and. But it feels like they screwed up the system because you say that’s by design. It’s going to create a revolution and people are going to lose it.

Well, I’m, you know, the way that they do it, they do everything very gradually, so they don’t bring anything in. In great big leaps and bounds. They do everything very, very gradually so that people kind of get used to it and adjust. Get used to it and adjust. That’s what they do. And they, you know, they screwed up with COVID on time. Yeah, they, they. They’re not going to bring any sort of groundbreaking new changes in unless there’s a major crisis. They use war a lot, I think, and nearly everybody knows that they’re using wars to change the direction of how they want to run the world.

The war policy has always been there. False flags, war that creates a crisis, then, oh, yeah, we have to go in this direction because of the war. They blame the war. I mean, what’s going on now with oil prices explained, the war. It’s always a war or something that’s gonna tip the balance. Yeah, but the average person doesn’t give a. At some point, they don’t care about all of that if they can’t eat and they have to work like slaves. That’s why we’re seeing the unrest that we’re seeing. And it. They don’t care if it gets much worse.

And the People know that, that there’s a percentage when the top certain percent makes 15 times, I don’t know, more than the bottom 30% or whatever. A revolution is always triggered. They know there’s a mathematical equation and we are past that. I think they’re in dangerous territory right now, which is why there’s probably going to be a major war at some point in the near future, which they can blame that then they can bring in, they can accelerate their plan, their control plan. They can bring in a new financial system which is like the current system, but it’s got more surveillance.

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That’s my point. Yeah. I have a question for anybody out There. Who talks about the money system? Nobody talks about it like I do. Nobody’s unpacked it. Nobody actually explains what’s really going on. And I think some of them know, but they don’t. They don’t talk about it. I talk about it all the time. I’d love to ask some of the guys who, you know, like Martin and Martin Armstrong must know how this system works. Catherine Austin Fitz must know how the system really works. They never talk about it. That’s my point. Yeah, they talk about all.

They never really talk about what I know, what I have discovered over extensive research, because I think it puts you in danger territory because you’re informing people on how things really work and they don’t want people to know. The worst thing you can do is inform somebody. Well, I disagree with that. I think. No, no, I’m not saying the worst thing you can do is inform somebody. I’m thinking that’s. That’s the truth. That’s Jesus. That’s Christianity. That’s of the best, you know, spiritual wisdom in the world. Truth is the best thing you can attain to. I’m saying they.

Whoever’s in control doesn’t want people to know. Well, the way I look at the world is that everybody should know what’s going on. We know a tiny amount of what’s going on. I mean, the whole reality. What is this reality? I mean, many, many people have got a theory on. Is this assimilation? You know, is this. Is this hell? Are we living in hell right now? Is this a learning curve that we’re going through and we all want to return back to bliss? There’s so many different theories, so many different religious beliefs, so many different people with past life experiences, you know, progressions and all types.

And you’ll notice there’s a lot of alien talk going on at the moment. There’s a lot of which is kind of cool, you know, is this world being run by aliens? What’s going on with all these different theories? Nobody really probably knows, but I know about the money system, and I’ve specialized in that, and I’ve engulfed my research into it, and I provide a lot of information for free. I want people to know the truth. I offer anybody in the world who wants to come and debate me about my conclusion about how the money system really works, about what you can do to completely transform your experience of playing the game of Monopoly.

Nobody’s ever debated me, Sarah. I’ve offered it for the last three years. They won’t. Just like Steve Kirsch offered Somebody a million dollars to debate them during COVID They wouldn’t do it. Nobody will debate you. Well, they don’t want their name associated with somebody like you. That looks like I’m an idiot for having you on. Because for somebody who’s actually telling the truth against power, truth against everybody, we’ve censored so much. We’ve suppressed people so much. And, you know, and that’s where some of these people, I push back on and say they’re not giving the whole truth.

Well, probably because they’re smarter than I am. They don’t want to, you know, they don’t want to give you the whole truth because they’ll go after them. I mean, that’s what the censorship happened is it turned everybody afraid to actually, when they really are experts, to share what they know. That’s what the chilling effect is, and that’s why it’s so harmful for society. Yeah, well, I’d say it very simply. I mean, there’s. We’re all living in a lie because nobody really understands what’s going on. And certainly in the money system, everybody’s living in a delusional state of mind.

They don’t really understand it. They never ask how it works. Even the experts don’t know how it works because they don’t teach it. So everybody’s moving around in this system. And the money system is arguably the most important aspect of the whole control agenda. Well, if you control the money supply, you control the people, right? Well, I’ve seen some of the control information, if you control technology, if you control health, but take the money away, take the power away, and what have you got left? You know, there’s. Who can do anything. So these big pillars of the system which they have absolute control over.

Many people don’t understand how they work. They don’t want to know. They don’t. They want it. They, they’re quite happy living in their. In their illusion. They’re quite happy with it. They’re comfortable in their, in their world. They don’t really want to ask the questions because they might be afraid of the truth. So a lot of people don’t want the truth. In my experience, some people will put their hand up and say, hey, don’t tell me about that. I really don’t want to know. Look at the COVID period. How many people just said, hey, I really don’t want to know what’s going on with this.

I’m just going to go along with the, the government’s ridiculous edicts because it’s easier for me to do that, I don’t really want to know. I don’t want to know what that dark agenda is, because it may. I may be afraid. Yeah, a lot of that’s. And they play on that. They know people don’t want the truth, but I think they have to be careful because the amount of the. Like I said, the people are barely surviving. And that’s what we’re going to see, civil unrest. And you say they do it slowly so people get used to it.

And maybe that’s true because you look at some of the poverty in some of these other countries, they are so poor they don’t even stand up. I mean, they don’t. They live on mats and can barely eat, and they’re. They’re starving and they’re so poor and they don’t stand up. They’re doing it gradually. Right. If you look at the Prosperity Index, it’s gradually getting worse and worse. It doesn’t happen in big spikes. But why would they want to live in a universe like this, too? I mean, why do they want to live on a planet where the people around them are suffering this much? They want to go back to the Middle Ages where there’s just kings and queens and some wealthy and everybody else is poor.

Yeah. It’s ultimately about control. So if you can control the worker bees, because we’re all like worker bees and a hive. If you can control the hive, if you control the mind, if you can control the activities, which is what they. Which is where they’re going. I mean, look at all this transhuman stuff, you know, that people are talking about with the nanobots and the control of your mind and your thinking is to control the money. If they control where you travel, whether you can travel or whether you can’t. If they control the way you think, it’s just all about control.

So ultimately, it’s about universal basic credit. A lot of people have been talking about this for years, but people will give up their aspirations of prosperity just because they want to be looked after. The state will look after them. You know, that’s. A lot of people actually will go along with that. You know, communism. A lot of people went along with that because it was easier to go along with. I don’t agree with it, by the way, but a lot of people just go along with it because it’s easier. They don’t want to stand up. They don’t want to have stress.

They just go along with whatever is the easy path. And that’s what they’re playing on is it’s kind of human nature because deep down we’re mostly. We’re peaceful. We don’t want to fight. We don’t want to be constantly fighting. So we settle for peace. Which means maybe we give up things to settle for peace. And I think they play on that. And I think that’s a big part of their game plan is they know human nature is that we generally we’re not that warlike really. There’s lots of wars, but the wars are only ever created by a tiny percentage of the world population.

Yeah, humans. We don’t want wars. We communicate too much. We communicate too much with everybody around the world now. And so we don’t. This genocide that’s going on in the Middle east, people are on all sides of the political aisle, at least in our. In the United States are not having it. We do not want that. And we. We don’t. We can’t be get gaslit anymore that a genocide is okay. I don’t care what kind of you can come up with trying to convince us that the Bible condones it. When Jesus the almost everything he taught is against that.

You. I don’t care what kind of you can come up with. People are not buying it. And yeah. Yeah. And so it’s the same with so many things. We aren’t buying this anymore. We might not like their culture but. Or mingle with their culture properly, but we don’t want to bomb them. And so we don’t buy that anymore. We don’t like fraud. We don’t like people coming here and stealing everything we have. We don’t like that. So there’s just. The basics are thrown. We don’t like you raping and hurting little kids. We don’t like that. Nobody you know, like the Epstein class.

We are not okay with that. So all these basics are happening and people are just. They’re fed up. At the same time they can be. If these are the type of people that run the world, we. That’s why there’s groups saying we need alternative systems because we can’t have people like this running our world. You can’t have Epstein class people who are committing genocide and want to control everything you do, who rape little kids controlling us. I mean, at what point is that lunacy and at what point is it stupid to put your head in the sand and say, oh, okay, I’ll just keep going on.

I’ll be good. I’ll be good. Just leave me alone. At what point is that just lunacy? Well, where I got to Sarah is. You know, I fought the establishment for many years. I have a whole backstory and I could talk about it for hours. There’s two documentaries made about it. Basically, I got to the point where I realized that you can’t beat them. They’re too powerful. That’s where I got to. Other people might think you can, but I don’t want to fight them anymore. I just want to create an environment for our members that is peaceful, whether it’s prosperous, where people make their own choices, where people have their own decisions.

They don’t have constraints, they don’t have everything they’re doing trapped and traced and they can operate free. To me, truth and freedom are really important. If you’ve got your health, if you’re free and you’ve got your ability to decide what you want to do, that to me, and you’re not harming people. That, to me, is the world I want to live in. I think a lot of people want that world. I know they do. We have thousands of members all over the world that want that. They look at the governments, they look at the state, and they say, are these guys going to provide that for us? Because they never have done before.

They have, yeah. Is it something new going to happen here that’s never happened before? I have a question for my audience, which is how many people in the audience have voted? And a lot of people in the audience say, yeah, I voted for many years. I said, have you ever realized, have you ever asked the question, did it actually make any difference? I think it can. Locally, I think people have made a difference. Locally. Yeah. Locally I think it can. But at the top of the agenda for me, you know, it doesn’t matter whether it’s left, right, red, blue, green party, whatever the party is, they’ve all been given their script.

They’re all following a control agenda that isn’t in. You’re not voting for the guys who are going to. Going to change the world. Those. Those decisions have already been made. That’s where I got to. Well, you do webinars and you help people understand from your, you know, your perspective what is going on. I always recommend for people to learn. I don’t. I think people need to think for themselves and they need to understand stuff and not take any one source as the only be all, end all. But you’re teaching people things that they’re not going to hear very easily elsewhere.

So I think that there’s value in that. And. And it’s. You’re also teaching people how the system really works how they can use the system to their advantage and, but legally and safely, right? Because I don’t, I don’t. I haven’t seen a lot of people going, you know, like the sovereign communities and stuff. A lot of that isn’t safe for people. So I think it’s really important for people to understand. And you’re doing a lot of that, but you’re doing some things that I haven’t seen anybody in the world do yet. I told you that when we talked.

And so that’s why I took an interest in it. And there’s, it’s interesting to me because you’re, you’re actually doing things that I, and further along than I’ve seen any group in the world do. So it’s of value for people to watch and at least learn from what it is that you have going on, even if they don’t end up doing anything and any of your recommendations. It’s important, I think, for people to learn about it. As I’ve said, you know, earlier on, you know, people need the truth. Some people want it, some people don’t. I tell the truth.

I unpack it, I explain it. I have written a lot of research papers. I’ve done a lot of interviews. I do a lot of webinars. We facilitate programs for people who want to take, you know, want to improve, who want to really use the system in the way that there’s a very tiny percentage of the world’s population that knows what I know, that uses what we, what we do, and they don’t want other people to know about it. But it’s, I’m different. I want people to know. And not everybody wants to do, go down the program, you know, the pathways that I provide with our programs, because they probably think they don’t need to.

But there’s a, there’s a big percentage of people out there who want to know about what we’re doing, but there’s only a very small percentage that actually can do it. Because when you understand how the system works, it’s a tax farm, right? There’s between 50 billion and 100 billion of taxes paid by the banks, the top banks to the United States treasury every year for the use of our human energy. And we can redirect that, but that’s, that’s, that’s your limit, that’s your limitation.
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