What a Neurosurgeon Saw Beyond Death Changes Science Spirituality

➡ Dr. Eben Alexander, a neurosurgeon who had a near-death experience, shares his insights on the connection between spirituality and science. He believes that our existence extends beyond our physical lives, with our souls continuing in a spiritual form where we reunite with loved ones and plan future lives. He also discusses the importance of personal growth and kindness in our current lives. Lastly, he emphasizes the emerging scientific understanding of consciousness and quantum physics, which he believes supports the concept of spirituality and reincarnation.
➡ The article discusses the concept of near-death experiences and reincarnation, suggesting that when our bodies die, our consciousness may be freed to a higher level. It mentions studies of children who recall past lives, suggesting that these memories fade as they grow older. The article also talks about the merging of science and spirituality, arguing that science can help us understand these spiritual experiences. It concludes by suggesting that we are on the brink of a major shift in our understanding of life and consciousness.
➡ The text discusses the author’s near-death experience and how it changed his perspective on life, consciousness, and spirituality. He was a scientist who struggled to understand how consciousness could survive after death. After surviving a severe case of E. Coli bacterial meningitis, which put him in a coma, he had a profound spiritual journey that led him to believe in the power of the mind and spirituality in healing. He also discusses the concept of reincarnation and the importance of love, kindness, and compassion in our spiritual growth.
➡ The text discusses the use of binaural beats and meditation to reach a state between awake and asleep, known as the hypnagogic state. This state allows for deeper access to consciousness, beyond the superficial ‘ego mind’. The author also discusses their experience with near-death experiences (NDEs), which they believe are tailored to the individual’s soul. They share their personal NDE, which involved a life review and encounters with loved ones who had passed. The author believes that these experiences provide insight into the nature of the soul and the concept of reincarnation.
➡ Christopher Kerr, a hospice head in Buffalo, wrote a book about the experiences of dying patients. He found that many patients reported reuniting with lost loved ones as they neared death. The book also discusses the importance of treating people kindly, as our actions towards others can impact our own experiences. Additionally, the text explores the concept of souls, suggesting they don’t have gender or race, and discusses the success of psychic mediums in connecting with the deceased.
➡ The text discusses the importance of meditation and consciousness in our lives. It mentions a free course available at ebenalexander.com that helps people understand these concepts. The text also explores the idea of a shared consciousness and the role of quantum physics in explaining this. It ends with a discussion on the slow acceptance of these ideas in universities and the potential role of AI in understanding consciousness.
➡ The websites EbenebenAlexander.com, SacredAcoustics.com, and InnerSanctumCenter.com offer a wealth of resources. These include a 33-day journey, a reading list with scientific papers, FAQs, interviews, and information on meditation. InnerSanctumCenter.com also provides a professional course for mental health practitioners and free interviews with global thought leaders on spirituality and consciousness.

Many near death experiencers come back knowing the absolute reality of reincarnation and eternity of soul. And so they recognize that a huge part of human existence is not only having, you know, our spiritual awareness. So that when we die, we’re actually kind of liberated back into that higher spiritual form. But that’s where we reunite with souls of departed loved ones. That’s where we go through life reviews. That’s where we plan next incarnations. What are the lessons, the things we want to learn and teach each other. And an important piece of that concept is you’re not just getting, you know, it’s not like you decide, well, this time you win the lottery and sip champagne on your yacht for your whole life.

No, that’s not how you win in this game. Welcome to Business Game Changers. Welcome back to the Thrive hour of Business Game changers. I have Dr. Eben Alexander coming to the program with me today. He’s a neurosurgeon who has had a near death experience. And so we are going to talk about the science of materialism and how that his near death experience completely shatters any myth around that. And that consciousness, the study of consciousness, the study of quantum physics, and the scientists studying that now at the edge of our understanding are all coming to the same conclusions.

That quantum science, quantum physics, study of consciousness really brings together the notion of spirituality and the notion of God and so much more of who we are. And that for the last century and a half we’ve been stuck into this, this stage of materialism and that we’re moving past that finally. And that the spiritual realm and the science realm are starting to come together. And his near death experience, we’re going to be talking about what he experienced, what so many other people experience. He also starts getting into the fact that so many children have proven to scientists that we are reincarnated beings too.

And that through these children experiences and even his experience, we learn that he’s going to talk about that too. I wasn’t expecting it talked about that today, but he did. And that’s so fascinating. I just think these, these topics are what people want to know. What is it like after we die? And so many people say that it’s much richer experience than here and that you’re even more alive than you are here. It’s. It’s incredible. And there’s, you shouldn’t fe death and you shouldn’t fear your experiences here. You should keep working at becoming a better, loving, kinder human being here and enjoy your experience here and give more that way.

So hard for so many of us because we’re stuck in this world where we’re fighting so many things. We’re so busy, but maybe we can figure out, carve out some space to have a little bit more time for ourselves. I’m hoping these conversations help you as much as they help me in getting to that point mentally. And like I’ve told so many, I’m going on this journey of learning what that there’s so much more to this world. And while I think we have to face the dark realities if we’re going to solve and raise our vibration, you can’t ignore the darkness.

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Okay, let’s get into this wonderful. I love these conversations that I have on the Thrive Hour with Dr. Eben Alexander. Hi, Dr. Alexander, welcome to the program. Well, Sarah, it’s a great joy to be with you today. Thanks so much for having me on. Well, you have an amazing story, to say the least with your near death experience. You’re a neurosurgeon and you started out like so many people in that field and many fields of science, not believing, essentially going, what I’ve learned has showed me that God doesn’t exist or that this we, this is it.

Can you explain what you did think and then how your experience completely transformed your understanding? Yeah, that’s a great question. And important to point out that I was very influenced by my adoptive father. Now, important to point out, yes, adopted. That’s a giant part of my story. And but I was adopted into a wonderful, loving family that honored all my hopes and dreams. My adoptive father was a globally renowned neurosurgeon. He had been a combat surgeon in the Second World War, spent two and a half years overseas in the Pacific theater fighting the Japanese. And he came back to this country relatively unscathed from all that.

And I still have at my bedside his little pocket Bible, you know, New Testament psalms that he’d carried with him. So through much of my childhood, you know, I have this big scientist father who fully understood cosmology and science and physics, neuroscience, and fully aware of big bang cosmology. And yet he had this very profound belief in God. To him, God and prayer and everything were part of his work as a neurosurgeon. So there was never any conflict. Now, like many of us who grew up in the 60s and 70s, like I did, I always knew science is the pathway to truth.

But I made the same mistake that many people in our modern culture make, and that is thinking that Newtonian deterministic science is a pathway to truth. It is not. Quantum physics is absolutely one of the most proven fields in history. And it not Only suggests or allows, but demands in many ways that consciousness is something that actually exists. You know. Yeah, it almost proves it, right? I mean, quantum physics and frequency and all these things are like, how do you not see it once you start understanding more advanced science? Well, but that is the key. And, and so now there’s a whole cadre of scientists who have been studying consciousness, brain and mind, Whether it’s neuroscience or psychologists, philosophers of mind, what have you.

But they’re all coming to a much richer recognition that’s much more honoring of that deep truth of quantum physics that basically implies that consciousness is a fundamental property of the universe. And we share consciousness, we’re sharing that God mind of the universe. So it’s a much bigger model. And yet that is how you start to explain human experience much more readily. I mean, we’ve had enough of, you know, the last century and a half of materialist science claiming that near death experiences and other spiritual experiences couldn’t be so. Because they violated are hypothetical models of the nature of reality, of materialism or physicalism.

But they don’t violate it at all. They’re perfectly consistent with the revelations of quantum physics. Which are just telling us we have to go much, much deeper. Because we’re nowhere close to an understanding of the nature of physical reality. That’s right. And much more closely understand the rest so well, for so long they kind of beat up on people who thought differently and tried to present science differently and just thought you were a quack and, and, and they said that your brain was, as you die, it fires off all these signals and that’s what you’re experiencing.

Right. And that is not true. I mean, the cases that, you know, the materialists jump on to say, look at this, we have somebody who died and they had this burst of EEG activity right when they died. That must be what a near death experience is. But those people are unaware of all the literature on the thousands and thousands of cases who have had near death experiences when their brain and body were very close to death. Some of them clinically, many of them clinically dead, and yet then returned to this world and had these incredible experiences.

And the vast majority of them, remember, were cardiac arrest patients. And we know quite well from common experience. After 15 to 20 seconds of cardiac arrest, the EEG goes flatline. The brain no longer has, you know, demonstrable major activity going on. So but they have these profound experiences. So those people simply weren’t doing their homework. They ignore inconvenient facts, probably. Well, that is true. Inconvenient truths. But that’s where the current science is really leaping ahead in big ways. And that is where humans can gain great comfort, because it suggests when our brain and body die, our conscious awareness is actually liberated to a much grander level.

That’s incredible. Like, we become almost more alive, much more. I mean, basically, when you listen to the stories that near death experiencers tell specifically about life reviews, your life flashing before your eyes. And interestingly, Bruce Grayson, who’s a skeptical psychiatrist at UVA who studied these things for more than 45 years, he basically wrote a paper in the fall of 2021 where he analyzed 700 life reviews and astonishingly, astonishingly found one third of them, 34% said their entire life was involved. And the only way you can understand how an entire life can be involved in a life review in that big number of cases is to accept that in that realm, we’re totally in a timeless realm.

It’s in a realm of eternity. That’s the realm of soul. So we’re no longer stuck in this illusion of self here and now with this kind of plodding river of earth time, but we’re actually free to see birth, death, everything in between, even seeing past life events and potentials for future life events. There’s a much bigger theater of operations going on here. And when I mentioned things like reincarnation, I knew nothing about the scientific data for reincarnation before my coma, but my coma showed me very clearly reincarnation and life reviews are part of this system of human awareness.

And then after I came back from the coma, I discovered that only 60 miles north of where I lived at University of Virginia in Charlottesville, they’d spent the last 45 years or 60 or so years studying past life memories and children suggestive of reincarnation. And of the 2500 plus cases they’ve studied at UVA, more than 1700 have been solved. That is, they actually found the person who lived before. But the, the key piece that people need to get is that Ian Stevenson and Jim Tucker, who are the MDs who have done most of these studies, will tell you you must harvest these memories from children by age 6 or 7, because after that, the memories are covered over.

So even. What do you mean they’re covered over? Like we. They forget them. The children don’t remember any longer. I mean, some of the most heavily studied and written about cases in this world, by the time they’re 9 or 10 years old, these children say, I don’t remember that. And that’s because they’re natural processes that cover these over. I think at this stage in human development is all I can say at this stage there seems to be some value in having us buy into this life, have, you know, not have the wisdom and knowledge of our higher soul knowing of prior existence, but just buy into this life.

And that’s why those past life in between life memories would be covered over as we age. I wonder why there, if there’s a value of having a little bit of memory of that when they’re a child. Well, I think the, the fact is, whether there’s a reason for it or not, it is something that occurs. I mean, those solved cases are so shocking, it’s just amazing when you read them. In fact, one of them that was vetted by Jim Tucker, who’s recently stepped down as the head of Division of Perceptual Studies at uva, is a story that’s recounted in a book called Soul Survivor.

S O U L Survivor. It’s about a World War II fighter pilot who was killed in the battle of iwo Jima in March 1945 and then was reincarnated 53 years later in Louisiana as a young boy. And he had all these nightmares being shot down by the Japanese. And night after night he’d wake up with these incredible phobias and nightmares and see, see that’s the, that’s a key element of these things is these children act like they lived these lives. Not just kind of a vague dip into the psychophore of knowledge of, of people’s lives, but they had lived these lives.

That’s why they have these nightmares and things like that. So once you realize this is a big part of the modern scientific literature on the nature of consciousness, you realize that we’re, we’re having to step up to a much bigger theater of operations than the simplistic falsehoods of materialism and physicalism. And that’s good news for all of us. But you know, we’re entering kind of a fascinating era of human development as we come to realize that reincarnation is real, our souls are eternal. The binding force of love that is so obviously an ingredient in near death experiences and related experiences like deathbed visions, things like that, is because the binding force of love is so important.

And so essentially the deep lesson of these spiritual journeys from these millions of people who have had them is we’re all in this together. We’re here to take care of each other. And which I don’t know if we’re doing that great of a job of, but so, okay, you think we are. I’ll point out one other thing and that is that when you reach the edge of a gigantic paradigm shift, and we’re, we’re talking about a shift in the major worldview of humanity that has been brewing for thousands of years, when you hit that edge, the fundamentalists who defend those other like materialism, physicalism, you know, and then all the kind of hatred mongering, kind of political arms in this world, they panic because at some deep subconscious level they realize their days are coming to an end.

So when you see all the panic mode and the headlines today, the political polarization warfare, the conflict in our political systems, etc, don’t think that that is, oh no, a harbinger of the, the horror show that this world is turning into. Look at it as the recoil of the fundamentalists who realize their days are numbered and they are going down and we’re going to have a whole order and it’s based in science this time. You know, religions have had thousands of years to teach us the golden rule. You know, treat others as you would like to be treated.

And yet the deepest lesson of the scientific study of near death experiences supported by all the other evidence supporting non local, unified shared consciousness, but in which we all have our free will and there’s not a predeterminism, I can assure you of that. Then we start to realize this world can improve dramatically. We can start getting. Well, I think, don’t you think of each other, don’t you think it brings together spirituality and science? Because science is just the study of what is. And it’s not, it’s not, doesn’t say it. If, if spirituality exists, it’s, it’ll define it because it’s a study of what is.

But we might not be equipped to understand it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not real. Well, yes, and, and equipped to understand it. You know, in our third book, Living in a Mindful Universe, not only did we make the case for the unification of science and spirituality, just as you were pointing out, but we talk about how it, how it can occur and all the various features of modern science and of spiritual experience that point to a unification in this understanding. And that’s the important point is science, you know, as you’re kind of alluding to, is kind of a shared mechanism of reaching objective truth about the nature of our universe.

And the scientific method is a very powerful and valuable tool in getting there. And you know, it turns out we also have to accept what the universe gives us in terms of Human experience. Because some scientists would say, wait a minute, I want to see a, you know, a kind of a double blind, placebo controlled, you know, objective study of these near death experiences. But sadly, they’re so complex and so deep and profound now we don’t yet have a way to kind of. How do you do that? Yeah, yeah, it just doesn’t make sense. Okay, so before you had your near death experience, did you.

Were you like other scientists or did your dad have more of an impact on you? Did you think that there was nothing more, or did you. Did you kind of believe what your father. It’s a very good question. And I attempted for years to follow my father’s pathway because he was so comfortable with it and it helped him in his work. I mean, but your colleagues didn’t really. No, they wouldn’t necessarily go for it. But for me, you know, I’ve spent 15 years right in the middle of my kind of career working at Harvard Medical School.

I had fantastic colleagues there. I had some of the most amazing and wonderful projects. I was like a kid in a candy store. I mean, Harvard Medical School was just a dream come true for me. But I. I really had trouble and struggled as a scientist trying to understand how conscious awareness could survive the death of the brain and body. That was a deep mystery to me, I must say. I’d pretty much gotten to a point where I didn’t think there was a good way out of that. And that’s when I had my NDE. You know, it was in November of 2008, driven suddenly into deep coma with a severe case of E.

Coli bacterial meningoencephalitis, One of the worst kinds of meningitis you can have. I mean, it’s for the most part fatal. And yet mine drove me into deep coma. There’s a medical case report on my medical records. It’s very valuable. It goes well beyond where I went in the book Proof of Heaven to explain my medical details, because it was written by three doctors not involved in my care, but fascinated by my recovery. And that came out in the Journal of Nervous and mental Diseases in September 2018. And that case report makes two major kind of observations.

One is that the. The objective level of damage to my brain based on my neurologic exams on the, you know, absent oculocardiac reflex, a CSF glucose level of 1. All the horrible, horrible parameters of the medical details of my case meant I was in deep trouble with this meningitis. And also that brain had no chance of offering up a dream or hallucination. That’s why meningitis is such a perfect model for human death. And a very severe case like I had, which involved all the entire neocortex, that’s the part of the brain that neuroscience thinks is, is responsible for every detail of human conscious awareness, have every bit of that neocortex inactivated by this meningitis and then to have the most profound, experiential, memorable, life changing set of events in my life, an ultra real spiritual journey.

All when the brain to any medical mind is offline and incapable of such things. There’s a big message there. Now the other thing about the case report is that the peer review editors of the scientific journal said, well, you know, this case is unprecedented in the medical literature. Nobody gets E. Coli meningitis involving all of their brain, spends a week in deep coma and then ends up making a full recovery. How do you explain it? And the doctors who wrote the case report said it’s because he had a near death experience. In other words, because he had this rich, profound spiritual experience.

That’s what enabled him to heal. And that is big news for all of us, that our spiritual nature, you know, prayer and things like that can actually be involved in our coming into wholeness and healing in our lives. And that that’s why this is all so important. It’s all about mind over matter and escaping the shackles of the false kind of assumptions of materialism or physicalism that the brain is creating consciousness out of physical matter. It’s not. It serves as a filter or a transducer, transceiver that allows that primordial consciousness in just a short break to share with you an amazing peptide.

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It’s like, well, what the heck do we do? You know, it, it’s more, you’re more, you’re more alive when you die. You know, you’re, you have more. I remember when my, I just lost my mom and I, I, when she was kind of going on, I was asking, are you seeing anything? You know, I wanted to know and she didn’t really, I mean she was really just barely, but. And so I, I don’t know, but I, I just, I wonder, you know, is she in a better spot? I assume she is, but far better spot, I can assure you of that.

And the people I’ve talked to over the years who’ve had near death experiences, like everyone comes back more spiritual or spiritual and they all say they kind of wish they didn’t come back. Well, I think that’s an important thing to point out and that is that that realm is absolutely kind of beautiful and blissful and ecstatic beyond any kind of earthly words. But usually the story you hear from people is yes, they were very attracted to it. But then for some reason they made a choice to come back to this world, usually out of a sense of responsibility to others.

Sometimes they almost feel like they were pushed back in. Yeah, that’s what I hear a lot. Yeah, I know of cases where, you know, an uncle or a grandmother, somebody’s soul who’s passed over, said, it’s not your time yet, that kicks them back into the physical realm. And so all those are possibilities. But the other thing to point out is that many near death experiencers come back knowing the absolute reality of reincarnation and eternity of soul. And so they recognize that a huge part of human existence is not only having, you know, our spiritual awareness, so that when we die, we’re actually kind of liberated back into that higher spiritual form.

But that’s where we reunite with souls of departed loved ones. That’s where we go through life reviews. That’s where we plan next incarnations. What are the lessons, the things we want to learn and teach each other. And an important piece of that concept Is you’re not just getting, you know, it’s not like you decide, well, this time you win the lottery and sip champagne on your yacht for your whole life. No, that’s not how you win in this game. It’s all about facing, you know, the. The issues of life and, and working with our fellow souls and growing and learning and teaching through this process.

So that means that some of the hardships are the plan. And, you know, our ego mind would go, oh, I would never plan that kind of a hardship. You know, I’m not going to have a child commit suicide. Are you kidding? But our higher soul, that is far beyond the notion of the sting of death, which is what we’re paralyzed with, is material beings thinking we’re stuck in material bodies and that there’s nothing else going on. That’s not true. And you got to remember that people of souls that have gotten into this kind of enlightened state, they realize that death is not the end anymore.

But they also realize, without exception, that love and kindness and compassion and mercy and acceptance and forgiveness are right at the core of how we succeed as souls, seeking kind of a higher level and teaching and learning and growing and taking all of consciousness to a higher level. So you’ve got to remember that in this process, we learn that we’re so much more than our physical bodies and that we’re truly eternal souls with this effect over multiple lifetimes. When we go to sleep, do we go into that realm or not? I would say yes, very much.

The dream world is a regular connection to the spiritual realm. And that’s why people often have, you know, dreams where a loved one comes to them, someone who has passed over to the other side, but gives them a very reassuring message. And those dreams are usually more real and detailed and memorable than just your average everyday dream. But yes, the dream space is absolutely that. And in fact, I. I put that to great use with my work with meditation. I meditate an hour or two a day. I use binaural beat, brainwave entrainment. And specifically, if anybody wants to follow my lead on this, go to sacredacoustics.com and what you’ll find is binaural beats are a form of presenting slightly different frequencies to the two ears, but it does it in such a way that you get this powerful sense of an oscillation down in the lower br brain stem.

And most, yeah, most people are aware that in, like, in hypnotic regression, use a pendulum. So your eyes are following the pendulum or an EMDR eye movement desensitization. Reprocessing, you’re using rapid eye movements left and right. And it’s that oscillation for those examples. It’s occurring in the midbrain. And that’s a more recently evolved level than what we’re using with sacred acoustics and other binaural beat brainwave entrainment. There we’re going way back 300 million years ago in evolution to the lower brain stem and causing this powerful oscillation that’s just through the sound itself. And that is what allows us to get into this hypnagogic state.

Hypnagogic is the state between awake and asleep. And it turns out that is a space where your little ego mind, the little voice in the head. And I love how Michael Singer, in his book the Untethered Soul, he calls that voice in your head your annoying roommate. Keep that in mind, because that voice in your head is nothing more than that. It is not your soul, it is not your consciousness, but it’s a superficial program that allows access to consciousness. But ultimately our consciousness is much deeper, bigger and grander and more interconnected and powerful than our little ego mind would.

Would be able to see. So this is about getting into that state. Okay, so when. When you had your experience, you had to go through this life review. In my mind, going through a life review would be torture. I’m like, oh, God, God, I don’t want to listen. I don’t want to hear everything because I always try to. I’m almost a perfectionist, right? In some of the things I do. I want to be good at what I do. So I’m like, oh, I don’t want to hear all the things that I did wrong. Is it almost torture to go through a life experience? Did you go through that? No.

Well, actually, it turns out that because, you know, I think a near death experience is always tailored for the soul who’s having it. There’s no other reason for an NDE to exist. And so it takes the form that is most valuable to that soul having it. Now, in my particular case, as a neuroscientist who was open minded but was struggling with any kind of notion of spirituality, excuse me, you know, I needed a deeper dive, and that deeper dive demanded amnesia. In other words, I couldn’t have memories of Evan Alexander’s life. I did witness life reviews in very profound form, but in many ways it was kind of a generic form.

And that’s because, and this is explained somewhat in our book Living in a Mindful Universe, when I encountered my adoptive father’s soul, which only happened two and a half years after my coma. And that whole story is told in living in a mindful universe. But he made it clear to me, first of all, he had passed over at age 91. Well, but when I saw him in this beautiful vision during a meditation, he was about 20. As often happens, our loved ones appear at kind of an ideal age. People who passed over as young children often will appear as late teens or early twenties.

But anyway, his message to me was very clear. I couldn’t be apparent to you during your near death experience because you would have tempted to dismiss it all as wishful thinking and, and that, that I think there’s some truth to that. In other words, in spite of the fact that I had a 1 in 10 million diagnosis of E. Coli meningitis in an adult 1 in a billion recovery, that if I’d seen my father there as my spiritual guide, I would have been a little more tempted to think, oh, I guess I just made that up.

You know, it was who I wanted to see. And that’s why I know the universe had to take it to a deeper level. So my spiritual guide and those who’ve read the book Proof of Heaven will know this full well because that, this is how that book comes to a conclusion. But my spiritual guide was someone, I didn’t know it and it had to do with my adoption history and a birth sister who had passed before I ever knew of her existence. So I don’t want to give any more out, but wow, it was just a, an absolutely astonishing story.

But I had to go that deeper level so my adoptive father could not be the soul who ushered me through that spiritual realm because I would have been a little more tempted to do in spite of its ultra reality, etc. And so this was a way that took me to that next level. And so do you feel that you wish you could go back there? Are you happy? I mean, are you one of those that say, gosh, that was so much better there than here? Or do you think, I mean, I don’t know. What do you think? Well, the way I look at it is, remember, we come back, you know, a lot of the soul work is done here in the physical realm, even though we’re temporarily kind of dumbed down and don’t have not the full knowledge of our higher soul.

But that is the stage on which we learn and teach and can grow and contribute to the evolution of consciousness. So I think that’s a very. We need to be dumbed down in order to be able to our soul to grow, to be able to experience something. So how come, how come everybody that comes back that you’ve talked to understands reincarnation? Well, where does that get taught? Or how does that get taught? Well, I think it’s. It gets taught. For me, it happened in what I call the Core Realm, which is kind of the deepest level I went to my.

My journey started in what I call the earthworm’s eye view. It was very primitive course, unresponsive, kind of being buried in dirty jello. But then I was rescued from that by a slowly spinning white light that basically served as a light portal up into this brilliant ultra real Gateway Valley. But that’s where things take a strange turn because that’s where we would reunite with souls, departed souls, just as I reunited with a birth sister that. Who I’d never met before. But that’s where we. Did you know her there? Like, you just felt like you knew. You knew who she was? We knew each other tremendously.

But share with me fully her relationship to me. But her message to me was extremely comforting and, and I passed through that realm multiple times. So I got this message from her several times. But it was, you are deeply loved and cherished forever. You have nothing to fear. You’re richly cared for. And also a message about how I could do no wrong. But sadly, the way I wrote that up in Proof of Heaven, people wrongly assumed that I was saying you can do anything you want, that it doesn’t matter. Which couldn’t be further from the truth.

Truth. The reality is being deep in that kind of light and love. Anything we’ve done that was selfish or greedy, you know, in that Life review still going to be loved handed out, pain and suffering. It looks especially horrible in that beautiful light and love of that realm. So, so basically, it’s like you’re. It’s like a child who no matter what they do, you still love them, but you’re still not okay with them kicking the dog or something. You know, not. I would say in a sense, it’s almost more kind of direct and neutral. That is in the Life review and this part I haven’t gotten to yet.

So this is a little unfair, but I’ll spring it on you now. 84 of those 700 cases that Bruce Grayson reviewed said that the Life review was from the perspective of everyone involved. God though, I mean, like, if you hurt somebody, it’s like, oh yeah, to see what it felt like. So in other words, the, the. It’s like the golden rule treat Others as you would like to be treated. But it’s written into the very fabric of the universe through this very common process of life. Reviews in near death experiences. And then I’ll also point out some people complain, they say, well wait a minute, I want to know what happens when you really die.

Not just a near death experience. And so refer to Christopher Kerr, K E R R. He was head of hospice, Buffalo. Wrote an incredible book about six or seven years ago. It’s called Death is but a Dream. And in that book he doesn’t care about near death experiences, but what he writes about are palliative care, terminal hospice patients, people who go to die, period. They all end up dying. And what he finds is they go through the very same things. They reunite with souls. How does he know that? Because they ask them. Them, ask them as they’re dying, people share these things that they’re, you know, they’re reuniting.

There’s you know, their lost uncle, their, their mother who have what have you. The important soul is there to welcome their. Them over and they share that as they are dying. Yeah, I was asking my mom, I was trying to get. What do you think? Was she. She wasn’t. Not everybody can share it, right? It depends on where they’re at. Right? Not everyone can share it. Very drugged up to too. So well that I usually advise medical practitioners to lighten up on the sedation if they can. I mean you don’t want anybody suffering. But on the other hand, sometimes healthcare workers tend to over sedate patients just to make things a little easier.

But I think that there’s so much value in the process of a soul transitioning because you, you witness things. You know, as many a nurse has tried to tell me, and nurses are much wiser about this than doctors because most of the doctors have left the room by the time the patient is passing over. They feel in some sense like they’ve failed the patient at least that was kind of a. Yeah, I had bothered me, you know, to be losing anything. Yes. Yeah. So. But the nurses are there and so they see the things that happen to the patient.

They see the interactions with the family. And I know I had nurses trying to tell me there’s much more going on there. There’s a reality, this concept of soul. You better get, get used to it. I’m getting very used to it. But it’s, it’s an incredibly important. But in other words, my point is the life review is just basically allowing us to see what it felt like to treat people the way we treated people. Oh God, I don’t know if I want to deal with that. Okay, so. But would you. That’s why you should treat people with kindness.

That’s why you need to be as kind as you can. Right? It’s hard in this world. Okay, so what about having experiences where you’re all these different things? Like some people say that you’re male and female and you go back and forth and you’re rich and poor and you’re average and you’re all these things. Well, that’s, that’s, that’s all true. And it turns out that we’re, we’re all kinds of things, but it’s what contributes most to the, the growth of the group group in a particular lifetime. But importantly, as you’ve kind of mentioned here, your soul does not have a gender.

Your soul does not have a skin color. Your soul doesn’t even really have kind of a species identification. Although there is a principle of resonance such that, I mean, that’s how I and my beautiful guardian angel soul were able to connect with each other on this journey, is through this kind of concept of resonance. And that’s why medium, psychic mediumship, for example, works. Even though the psychic medium only gets a first name, you know, and given a first name, how would, how much success would any of us have? Well, for example, if you study@windbridge.org which is a site that scientifically studies mediums, you’ll find a quintuple blinded study that they did a few years ago where they found that in something like 19 psychic mediums that they found to be very highly qualified, those mediums had about a 72% success rate at hitting on the target just given a first name.

But the reason it works is because the step in that process was that the person who had lost the loved one, they’re called the sitter. The sitter would, in prayer meditation, ask their loved one who’s passed over to help the medium connect the dots. And so that is kind of the magic sauce that then allows the medium to connect the dots. And that’s why they can get such a high success rate in these mediumistic scientific studies. Just a short break from the program to share with you an amazing peptide to help you lose weight. It’s stronger than Ozempic.

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But he’s just. Which, you know, we can’t tell you about all that. But he, he’s just so. Some of these people are amazing their abilities and some of these remote viewers have turned it into a science where they really have honed into. I’ve been training on it for about a year and a half. And you can develop your skill set over time too, right? Well, that’s the thing. Remote viewing has been scientifically demonstrated to be a real effect beyond any reasonable doubt. Now, Wikipedia will tell you that remote viewing is pseudoscience, but that’s because Wikipedia is a pseudo encyclopedia.

I mean, that’s what you expect, an encyclopedia with only the militant, you know, most aggressive people get the editing changes they want, so you get that kind of nonsense. So Wikipedia isn’t worth very much for any kind of spiritual questioning because there’s a Gestapo element there trying to drill it all out. And why is that? Why are they drilling all that out of us? Because it’s not true. As you start really doing the research and connecting, you’re like, this isn’t. This is what’s going on here. Well, I think in the case of Wikipedia, they are basically, they’re hardcore materialists and they really don’t want to give up that viewpoint point.

And to them they think this other stuff is kind of woo woo nonsense. And yet they’re only fooling themselves. I mean, look at what they’ve been doing. Their approach has been to bury the evidence, suppress it, say it’s not true, debunking it. And if all you do is suppress, deny, debunk, delete all the evidence, how do you expect yourself to be getting closer to truth? Well, what is their life review going to be like? I mean, because they spent their whole time, you know what I mean? I have to go through it too. Well, what I often say is, I am so glad I won’t get to the end of my life as a hardcore militant atheist materialist, be welcomed there by my mother who, who passed away, you know, in 2019 and realize she’s really here.

This is real. The spiritual world is real. My whole life has been a giant mistake. No better for the materialist to realize up front that the data, scientific data supporting the reality I’m talking about the primacy of consciousness, the interconnection, the binding force of love is real. And this is how humans can actually start to influence their lives and help other humans. Prayer and meditation actually work to help invoke healing. And the more we embrace each other and help each other and you know, look at this as a shared adventure of the better, a place the world will be.

And meditation and centering prayer are right at the heart of it all. And so I would advise anybody who doesn’t have a regular practice of prayer meditation, if you need some help to quiet that little monkey mind voice in the head, go to sacredacoustics.com and full disclosure, that’s a website of my wife. She’s the co author of Living in a Mindful Universe. And in that book we talk a lot about meditation and specifically sacred acoustics. But there’s also a free course@evanalexander.com that people can take. It’s a 33 day email drip campaign that’ll bring you fully up to speed on this stuff.

You don’t have to spend one penny and it’s go to ebenalexander.com that’s E B E N alexander.com and click on the 33 day journey into the heart of consciousness right there on the welcome page. And leave your first name and an email address and you’ll be off and running. And that that 33 day course has been taken by more than 14,000 people to date. And many have left comments and experiences and helped each other, etc, all that’s available on that 33 day journey. How excellent is that? Okay, before we end this, we’ll end it here. When gotta ask.

This is a question that I keep thinking about. If we’re here to get life experiences and we’re dealing with war and suffering, why does it matter? You know, because we want to solve it, we want to change it, we want to be better, we want this place to be better. But if we want this place to raise in vibration and we, we can have more abundance, we can have that stuff. Does, does it change our life experience? I mean, are we, how can I word this? We want to have a better place to have an experience.

But is it going to be less of a school for our soul? You know? No, no, I think what happened thought about that. Yes, I have very much. And to me the kind of deeper purpose for what, what’s going on here was hit upon by Pierre Tellard de Chardin, a French paleontologist. He was a Jesuit priest, so he was spiritual. He was also a paleontologist. So he was a scientist dealing with billion year time scales. And he recognized in his book in the mid 20th century, it’s called the Phenomenon of Man. And in that book he recognized that evolution was happening.

You know, big debates about Darwinian evolution back in the mid 20th century. But he recognized that evolution was far grander than that. And it was going on throughout the universe, throughout the cosmos. And in many ways it was the evolution of consciousness itself, self. And I think that’s exactly what we’re talking about here is a much bigger kind of progression and evolution of consciousness where we’re actually only a tiny part of the, of the bigger picture. But all of us sentient beings throughout the cosmos are contributing to this kind of growth and understanding and coming into a much richer sense of shared meaning and purpose.

Acknowledging the reality of the mental, spiritual connection through mind, which is something quantum physics has been screaming at us for the better part of a century to realize that there is one consciousness and we all share that. And to recognize that the brain is a filter, a transceiver. And what it does is it dissociates a little eddy current of that primordial God mind. And that’s what we have in our mind. But for example, you can show non local consciousness telepathy, for example, Guillaume Playfair in his book the Twin telepathy, he estimates 35% of identical twins have powerful telepathic experiences.

And it, it’s not just twins, but twins by having the same genetics have very, very similar nervous systems. And so that resonance across space and time allows for the quantum field to connect them. The entanglement field that was the source of the Nobel Prize in physics in 2022. And quantum entanglement finally takes us beyond the false belief that four dimensional space time was the ultimate theater of scientific operations. Because entanglement reveals information pathways that violate Einstein’s, you know, notion of local realism and the fact that Einstein wanted to preserve materialism in, in that form. And it doesn’t work.

So you have to acknowledge that there’s much more in terms of this kind of mental, spiritual layer of the universe that interconnects us, and it interconnects us across space and time with ourselves and with others. So the entanglement field is a great way to start truly understanding the depths of this kind of quantum phenomena that connects us all. Or the evidence in quantum physics that shows that we’re sharing one consciousness and that in fact all of the world that we observe is dependent on mental choices of that mind. That is something called, that John Wheeler called the participatory anthropic principle contextuality.

There are many other names for it. But we find that the mind is a crucial part of any quantum experiment. And you can’t get away from it. You can’t pretend that you’re just observing naked particles and interaction. And this becomes especially relevant when you realize that everything neuroscience has been attributing to the brain is due to neurons whose function is completely due to ions and neurotransmitters that are all quantum particles. That’s right. It’s all gets down to frequency. So. So do you think universities are going to catch up soon or. Because a lot of universities are pretty hardcore against this still.

Well, sadly, you know, for all the tuition people are paying these universities, most of the universities are not quite teaching this yet. They’re, they’re going to be professors, they’re going to be little pockets of wisdom and of knowing that are coming up here and there. I mean, for example, I know now that I’ve given talks at several nursing schools and I know that in the last few years a number of nursing schools have increased, say, the, the availability of meditation spaces and things like that. So there’s kind of a subtle acknowledgement of the role of spirituality, prayer, meditation, those things in healthcare work.

But it’s all slow. But the good news is, for example with our book Living in a Mindful Universe and, and with say the books out of University of Virginia, Edward Kelly’s three incredibly powerful, scientifically rigorous, you know, clarion calls for the change in the scientific model away from materialism, physicalism, more towards something that would be akin to evolutionary panentheism. Panentheism is the notion that that kind of God mind is in all of us evolutionary means we do have free will. And there, there’s some specifics about that discussion but make it very clear. Even though you can have apparent kind of soul agreements and, and soul groups planning issues around incarnations, you know, hardships and, and the, the good features.

But ultimately our free will is still very active in how we respond to lifetime events. I think it’s important ironically, I think AI is going to, because we can automate so much of the materialistic views and so we won’t value that as much and we can’t automate the spiritual views and the human contact. And so I think we’re going to start valuing that more. And ironically AI will probably help us value the spiritual realm more because AI can’t do it. Well, there’s a very, very important ingredient to that statement and that is the training data, the trillions of parameters that go into your large language model data set.

If the stuff is real world and reflects properly the amount of human experience involved in these near death experiences and other after death communications, communications, what have you. If the training data includes all that, you’re exactly right, AI could be beneficial. The problem is, I agree with you what you’re saying. Yeah, keep going. The problem is if all they do is train it with, you know, the garbage in of materialist slop and nonsense, you know, brain creates consciousness. Well no it doesn’t. You’re not following the science. So it depends on your training material. It’ll take longer, it’ll slow it down quite a bit.

It if the guys that are controlling Wikipedia are the ones controlling the AI data. Right. Well, you know, which is occurring now. So I agree with you. But it will change the value structure over time. It will. And I agree. I think you know, true high level, high quality information AI would absolutely come out calling a spade a spade and shifting the discussion back to facts, empirical data and rational arguments argument. That’s where the current NDE discussion apply in discussing the deep nature of the unified consciousness. And yes, AI could help a lot with that. But you got to make sure you don’t get into a garbage in, garbage out situation where all you’re doing is using kind of Wikipedia style nonsense and denial of fact to load up your AI with knowledge.

Well yeah, but I even think beyond that because the, the material type jobs will be be automated and the human connected jobs can’t be. And so that’s a shift us. Yeah, but that’s a beautiful point. This has been a wonderful conversation. Thank you so much for joining the program. Tell us your website again. I know you said it earlier but and it’s going to be it’s up here the whole time during the video. But people listen to this on audio. Tell us it again. So it’s Ebeneben Alexander.com and like I said, 33 day journey is important.

There’s a recommended reading list with a lot of hot links to scientific papers. There’s an FAQ page. It has a lot of useful information, lots of interviews, etc. Etc. So that’s one place. Also go to sacredacoustics.com to learn more about meditation. There’s also a site, innersanctumcenter.com that’s I N N E R sanctumcenter.com where Karen and I have left some very valuable things. Some of them like there’s a professional course there available for mental health practitioners with Dr. Anna Yusum that we did that’s definitely uniting spirituality and psychiatry in the modern era. Then there’s Also something like 50 interviews we did available for free.

And those interviews with thought leaders around the world on consciousness and other spiritual experiencers that we did during the pandemic and those are all available for free. Enter SanctumCenter.com is the website. Excellent. Thank you so much for joining the program. We really appreciate it.
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