THE EPSTEIN BLACK BOOK REVEALED-NICK BRYANT

➡ Dave Hodges, host of the Common Sense show, discusses the potential risks of keeping retirement funds in banks, suggesting that Noble Gold can help protect these funds. He also introduces his guest, Nick Bryant, who has been investigating the Epstein scandal since 2012. Bryant explains the complex process of how Jeffrey Epstein was initially investigated for child abuse, but due to corruption and manipulation of the grand jury system, Epstein was not indicted. Bryant emphasizes the need for a thorough investigation by the Department of Justice.
➡ The text discusses the controversial legal case of Jeffrey Epstein, who was given a lenient sentence despite serious charges. It suggests that Epstein’s case was mishandled by the authorities, possibly due to his connections with influential figures. The text also discusses the issue of political blackmail, citing historical and contemporary examples. It implies that such practices may have influenced major political decisions and appointments.
➡ The text discusses the issues with Obamacare, stating it’s largely controlled by insurance companies who take a significant portion of the healthcare bill. It also mentions the high administrative costs of private healthcare compared to Medicaid and Medicare. The text then shifts to discussing the controversy surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, including the release of his ‘black book’ and flight logs, and allegations against various individuals. It ends by discussing the Epstein Victims Compensation Program, which has been criticized for its handling of victims’ claims.
➡ The text discusses allegations of connections between Jeffrey Epstein and various cartels, but the speaker denies any known links. The speaker also discusses the potential for blackmail in high-profile circles, suggesting that compromising situations can be manipulated to control influential individuals. The conversation then shifts to the handling of Epstein’s case files, with criticism aimed at Pam Bondi for her handling of the information. The speaker also mentions potential connections between Epstein and Diddy, but these are not fully explored.
➡ A Homeland Security officer discusses the recurring involvement of certain individuals in various scandals, including those related to Jeffrey Epstein. The officer suggests that key figures involved in Epstein’s trafficking network could be indicted for child trafficking if the Department of Justice was serious about pursuing the case. The officer also mentions potential connections between Epstein and the CIA or Mossad, and calls for an independent congressional commission to investigate Epstein’s case and the government’s alleged cover-up of child trafficking.
➡ Despite the high number of child trafficking cases and child abuse material on the internet, only a small fraction of individuals are charged or convicted. This lack of action from the justice department sends a message to victims that they have no voice or hope for justice. It’s crucial to correct this, so victims can believe in the possibility of justice.

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Just need your email. No, we don’t sell your data. That’s a promise. Hey, get on the right side here because right now 66 banks are listed as being in critical condition. You got to hope yours isn’t one of them or becomes one of them. So please do this today. Our guest is Nick Bryant and a little bit of history here very quickly. Nick was my third interview ever. Alex Jones guest host Jerome Corsi, Nick Bryant, Talk about starting at the top. And Nick and I talked exclusively at that time in 2009 about the Franklin scandal, child abuse and betrayal.

It was absolutely a fantastic interview. It was life changing for me and it shaped a lot of the things I did later with people like Monica Wolinsky’s child, excuse me, Monica was a Loski’s child and some incidences in Colorado. It’s an impactful book. But Nick is stayed right on the case. He has something called the black book on Epstein and he’s been compiling this, listen to this since 2012. This is not fly by night sensationalism you’re going to get from Nick. He’s a hardcore superior journalist and who I’ve quoted many times on this show. And we’re going to get to the bottom as best we can on what’s going on with the Epstein cover up Nick Great to renew acquaintance with you.

I’m so glad you’re on the show with us. I’m not even sure where to start because I’m getting bombarded by theories. Let me just put it to you this way. I’ll start it this way. Okay. Epstein Criminal Enterprise. Of course there are business records, of course there are lists. And anyone that doesn’t believe that doesn’t know a darn thing about business. Well, let me kind of take it from the top as far as my Jeffrey Epstein investigation. I had the Franklin scandal published in 2009, 2010, and I’d spent seven years on it. And I went into the abyss for that book.

I had it, I, I had a list of 60 victims and I had to find them and get them to talk to me. And that was, that was a lot. And then I had a lot of heat on me. There was a lot of things about the Franklin scandal. And then when it came out, I mean, it’s as much journalistic integrity as any other book that’s been vetted by any mainstream publisher. But I had to get it published by a small press because I live in New York, the epicenter of publishing, but no one would touch it.

And I, I was represented by a big literary agency and I gave them the book proposal and I was given the boot about two weeks later. And then I found another literary agent or, well, actually I’d known him for a number of years and he had tried to sell it and he was, was unable to. And so. And the Franklin scandal is a lot like the Epstein scandal in the respect that the government has covered up child trafficking, which in effect makes it 80. Embedding child traffic. And there was a lot of malfeasance that went on with state and federal authorities in the Franklin scandal.

And there was a lot of malfeasance that’s going on with Jeffrey Epstein and state and federal authorities. So how this got started, the neutron into the plutonium was a 14 year old girl. And she told her stepmother that she had been molested by Jeffrey Epstein. And she brought the mother, brought the kid to the Palm Beach Police Department. And the Palm Beach Police Department didn’t know anything about Jeffrey Epstein at this point. They just viewed him as a wealthy philanthropic type. And the girl described the interior of his home and also his anatomy. And that convinced the Palm Beach Police Department to take the, the investigation further.

And they conducted the investigation over the course of about a year. And they found 23 victims. They had the statement of five victims. I got the arrest warrant they were going to arrest him. They’ve got the statements of five victims, and then there’s 17 statements that corroborate the victims. So they had issued an arrest warrant for Jeffrey Epstein on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a minor and one count of lewd and lascivious molestation. So he was looking at potentially a lifetime in prison. And that case got taken away from them by the Florida state, by a Florida state attorney called Barry Kirschner, and they assigned it to a.

A grand jury. And I don’t know if your audience is familiar with how grand juries work, but grand juries are notoriously easy to corrupt. When someone hears the word grand jury, it’s like the gods of jurisprudence have spoken, but that’s not the case. A special prosecutor is chosen for a grand jury, and he or she calls the witnesses that he or she deems pertinent to the case and. And shows the grand jurors evidence that she. He or she deems pertinent to the case. And. And grand jurors are just people that have shown up for jury duty and been funneled to a grand jury.

So it’s very easy because it’s not adversarial. A special prosecutor gets what he wants. Essentially. If he wants indictments, he gets indictments. If he doesn’t want indictments, he doesn’t get indictments. There was a New York Supreme Court justice that said special prosecutors of grand juries have so much power over grand juries that they could get them to indict a ham sandwich. It’s kind of a famous quip about grand juries. But anyway, the Epstein grand jury was a ham sandwich. There were only two victims that were called. One had been molested by Jeffrey Epstein when she was 14.

She was now 16. And one had been molested by Jeffrey Epstein multiple times when she was 16 and she was now 18. And the special prosecutor was calling these girls prostitutes. And the grand jurors took their cue from the special prosecutor, and they skewered the special prosecutor, skewered these two victims. And then the decision. Or the. The decision that came out of that grand jury was. Or the statement was that Jeffrey Epste hadn’t abused a single child. Even though they were aware of 23 victims, they said that Jeffrey Epstein hadn’t abused a single child. And Michael Ryder, he’s a real hero in this story because he was the chief of the Palm Beach Police Department, and he would not back down.

He was threatened, he was followed. There was all kinds of intimidation, but he would not Back down, down. So he went to the Department of Justice and said, you, you have to investigate Jeffrey Epstein. The state mechanisms have completely failed. It’s, it’s up to the Department of Justice to, to investigate Jeffrey Epstein. And at that point, the U.S. attorney for Southern Florida was Alexander Acosta. And writer went to Alexander Acosta. Acosta assured him that they would investigate. And they ostensibly started to impanel a grand jury. We don’t know whether or not they started to impanel a grand jury.

They might have paneled it and then all of a sudden, for reasons that I will explain later, disengaged. But so what we have now is radio silence from the Department of Justice. Radio silence. And what’s going on is the Assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida, Emory Villafauna, is negotiating with Jeffrey Epstein’s attorneys. And Jeffrey Epstein had a dream team of attorneys. People think that O.J. simpson had a dream team. Well, Jeffrey Epstein had a dream team. He had Alan Dershowitz. Barr. I’m, I’m having a senior mine, Roy Black, and, and left court. And there was, he also had a, an attorney named Lefkowitz.

And what happened there was they started secret negotiations. The US The Assistant US Attorney and Jeffrey Epstein’s team of attorneys. And what they came up with was so dirty that they did not want anybody to see it. So they sealed that agreement. And it was a complete. There’s, there’s a law called the Victim Crimes Rights act, and victims of crimes, according to that federal law, need to be updated on the adjudication of the perpetrators. And actually they do get the possibility to confront their perpetrators. So the feds completely trampled on that and they sealed it. And at that point there were civil lawsuits being launched at Jeffrey Epstein and then also the Palm Beach Police or Palm Beach Post.

Those lawyers and the Palm Beach Post appealed the ceiling of that document. And the judge in the case, Kenneth Merritt, was going to unseal it. And then the feds appealed to the 11th Appellate Court and they said unseal it. And what, what the feds had done was so was such an abomination of American jurisprudence. They had given blanket immunity to all of Jeffrey Epstein’s co conspirators in that deal. Blanket immunity. And Jeffrey Epstein would be required to spend 18 months in a county jail. And then he did 13. But he was, he only had to go there at night.

He was molesting young girls during the day. So that was, that was just an abomination of, as I said, American jurisprudence. So when that came out that was very shocking, Very shocking. And Alexander Acosta was the U. S. Attorney that oversaw that deal and he was being vetted by the Trump administration. Yeah, because he, he became Secretary of Labor and the Trump administration asked him why he went so light on Jeffrey Epstein and he responded that he had been told that Jeffrey Epstein was intelligence and it was above his pay grade and he had to back down.

And there’s only two people in the government that can tell a U.S. attorney to back down. I’ve talked to legal scholars about this, and the two people are the Attorney general and the president. And this was in 2007. So the attorney general was Alberto Gonzalez and the president was George W. Bush too. You know, I’ve heard that Trump is covering for Bush. Is that true? Is that where we’re going? Well, I can say this, that it was Alberto Gonzalez’s attorney general isn’t going to cover up a nationwide pedophile network by himself. I mean, he’s going to have to get the okay from his boss and his boss was Bush too.

Or so that directive of not prosecuting Epstein, that emanated from the apex of power in the United States. And with that, that’s when the COVID up started in 2007. The, the major cover up. And then it has been covered up by every administration since, whether it’s Democrat Obama covered it up, Trump covered it up, Biden covered it up. And now Trump is getting himself in a lot of trouble because he said he was going to release the Epstein fil. He has not. You know, he’s disavowed the Abstein fil files. Sure has. But you know what’s interesting is this is bigger than party politics divide, as big as that is today, you’ve got both sides of the aisle covering this up.

Yeah. I mean, with the Franklin scandal, both sides of the aisle were covering that up. And, and that was primarily Republicans. And with Epstein, he, he’s primarily pandering to Democrats. And it just shows. Blackmail is very rife in our political system. Actually, there was a conservative Tennessee federal legislator from. In the House of Representatives. Timber came out about a year and a half ago and said that my colleagues are being blackmailed in honey traps. And I was amazed that a sitting U.S. congressman would say that. That really surprised me. I mean, I’ve known it for years, but I was amazed that a sitting U.S.

congressman would say that. How about, how about blackmail though? Because, let me. There’s also a strong rumor out there that there’s a dual purpose. It’s not Just covering up for G.W. bush. It’s also to keep a certain Supreme Court justice in line with conservative rulings. Well, I mean Clarence Thomas is definitely compromised. I’ve got no doubts about that. What about, what about Roberts? I have heard about Roberts and his predilections, but I don’t have any, I don’t have like definitive proof like I have with Clarence Thomas and, and there I have definitive proof. So I, but I think that there might be a number of Supreme Court Justices that are compromised.

And blackmail is something that has been in our political system forever. And because the media really doesn’t report on it, Americans really don’t know how rife our political system is with blackmail. But the founding fathers, I mean political blackmail goes all the way back to the founding Fathers. Alexander Hamilton was having an affair with a 23 year old woman who was married and her husband was blackmailing Alexander Hamilton. And then a muck raking journalist found out about it and wrote an article. And Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton had intense antipathy towards each other. So the muckraker thought that Jefferson owed him an appointment in his administration because he’d outed Hamilton and Jefferson didn’t give an appointment.

And then he outed Jefferson for having sex with one of his slaves, Sally Hemings, which DNA has shown that, that, that is the case. So that’s how old blackmail is in our political system. And I can give you a couple of examples of people and what I’ve seen with people that are blackmailed, it’s kind of like a meteoric ascent politically. Dennis Hastert was, had been molesting kids going back 30 or 40 years. And then he was elected into the House of Representatives and then he became the speaker of the House, which is constitutionally the third most powerful person in the country, right after the President and Vice President.

And there was a whistleblower, an FBI whistleblower named Sabelle Edmonds. And she said that Alexander Hamilton, or she said that Dennis Hastert, that the FBI knew about Dennis Hastert’s shadow life. And so, and this is when he was speaker of the House. So he was obviously protected when he was speaker of the House. And I can give you another example. After the Franklin scandal I wrote a book called Confessions of His DC man the Politics of Sex, Lies and Blackmail. And I wrote it with a guy, Henry Vincent, who ran the largest gay escort service that’s ever been uncovered in Washington D.C.

and closeted politicians and other power brokers would use his escorts. And there was also in the Franklin scandal, Craig Spence And Craig spence would spend $25,000 a month, and this is mid-80s on escorts from Henry Vincent. And a number of closeted people were, were compromised at that point. So, and, and Craig Spence, Jeffrey Epstein setup was he had a lot of cameras in, in all of his homes. And, and Craig Spence had the same thing. And Craig Spence was a CIA asset. And I’ll give you another example of someone who, there’s no way he wasn’t compromised.

Larry Craig was a very conservative senator from Idaho, and he’d been in Washington D.C. for 25 years, first as a representative and then as a U.S. senator. And he was getting escorts from Henry Vincent. And there was a movie documentary that was made called Outrage. And Outrage looked at a number of closeted politicians and showed how they voted against gay rights. And Larry Craig was mentioned, brought into that documentary. And, and it, and the makers of the documentary talked to gay escorts that had inter. That, that had had liaisons with, with Larry Craig. And a number of them weren’t even part of Henry Vincent’s escort service.

So Larry Craig was getting escorts from all over. And he was, eventually he was busted in a bathroom in the Minneapolis International Airport trying to pick up a VI squad cop. And the signaling there is if someone slaps their foot on the ground, they’re in a stall and they slap their foot on the ground and that’s the indication that I guess they’re hot to trot and then they get together. So Larry Craig was in a stall in the bathroom of the Minneapolis International Airport, and someone, vice squad cop, was slapping his foot on the ground. And Larry Craig engaged and he got arrested.

So he had been in Washington D.C. for 25 years. And how hard would it be to compromise that guy? I mean, if he’s a US Senator picking up guys in bathrooms, I mean, that’s, I mean, a kid, a high school senior doing an after school project with a smartphone could compromise Larry Craig. And this is kind of an aside. I’m from Minneapolis and I go back to Minneapolis once a year. And I was sitting on a commode in a Minneapolis airport bathroom, and there was a guy next in the stall next to me that was slapping his foot on background.

And I had no idea what that meant. I thought he had a neurological disorder. And I’m just glad I didn’t say, can I help you? So. Oh, that’s, that’s funny. I want to ask you, you raised a question in my mind here. When Obamacare passed, there were mysteriously some votes that changed at the midnight hour for the Unlikely votes to change. Was this genre part of that flipping, do you know? Well, with Obamacare, what was kind of interesting there was the majority of Americans wanted a single payer system and the Democrats had the majority at that point.

And what we got was something that was way watered down and actually Hillary Clinton had drawn up what became Obamacare and when, when Clinton in, in the 90s and she tried to sell it. But what it is, it’s as you know, it’s, it’s, it’s all run by insurance companies. Yeah. And insurance companies are taking a huge cut of that bill. The, the healthcare. We, we spent over $1.5 trillion on health care in the United States. And despite that there are millions of Americans that are, that, that are uninsured. And I’ve read actually the Rand came out, the Rand Corporation came out with report a number of years ago that the administrative overhead for private health care compared to Medicaid and Medicare which our net programs was eight times more expensive.

So with, when we have these HMOs we have a very, it’s very skewed towards the, the administrators and if we stuck with a system, a single payer system, it would be much, much cheaper than $1.5 trillion or over 1.5. But Obama had the House and the Senate for a single payer system and it was the Democrats that ultimately cooked up what became Obamacare, which was a blight for a lot of people for quite some time. Especially me too because I, I was really, I was part of the freelancers union and then they were a PPO which enabled me to get health care anywhere I wanted.

We’re kind of getting off track. But because of Obamacare became an HMO and I was constricted. So. But yeah, I think that there was something that went on with Obamacare. I thought so too. I thought I can’t believe this happened in the manner that it did. I want to go back to Epstein for a second here. I’m going to get, I have some real pointed questions here. Musk made an allegation that Trump is on the so called list. Can you confirm or deny that? Well, I don’t think that there’s a list per se. I don’t think there’s a list like it was the Jeffrey Epstein travel agency and he kept a list on his refrigerator with a magnet.

I don’t think it was that way. I released the Black Book in 2015 and also Flight logs. I’d had the black book since 2012 and I tried to get it published by a publisher or a platform. And finally in 2015, Gawker stepped up and we ultimately published the black book, and then. And then the flight log. So I was the guy that kind of ushered that to the Internet. And what’s kind of funny about that is no one would touch that black book when I was pitching it. But once someone took a chance with that black book, then the floodgates open and tons of ink have been dumped on articles about that black book.

And only two publications have given me credit. But anyway, there’s a lot of perpetrators on that blackboard. And Alfredo, what. How we got the black book is Alfredo Rodriguez ripped it off from Jeffrey Epstein and ripped off a copy of it from Jeffrey Epstein. And he was trying to sell it to one of the attorneys that were launching civil lawsuits at Jeffrey Epstein. And the attorney called the FBI, the FBI did a sting, and then that’s how the FBI got the blackboard. And then I was eventually able to get it. And he circled perpetrators or people that he felt were in cahoots with Jeffrey Epstein’s pandering.

And in some cases, we’ve. We get double corroboration because Virginia Goofy, the Epstein victim that killed herself a couple of months ago, she and Ghislaine Maxwell sued each other for defamation, and she named a lot of her perpetrators. And Alfredo Rodriguez circled Ghislaine Maxwell. And Virginia Giuffri named Ghislaine Maxwell as a perpetrator. Rodriguez circled Ehud Barak, who is the former prime minister of Israel. And Virginia said that he was a perpetrator, a rather nasty perpetrator. And Rodriguez circled Les Wexner, the CEO at that point, of L Brands, with Victoria’s Secret and Tommy Hilfiger. And Virginia said that she’d been molested by him.

Rodriguez circled Alan Dershowitz. And Virginia said that she’d been molested by Alan Dershowitz, although there was something that went down where she kind of waffled on that a little bit. But Rodriguez circled Bill Richardson, who is the former governor of New Mexico and was also Clinton’s energy secretary. And. And we know Virginia also named him as a perpetrator. And Jean Luc Bernal is circled. And he was the guy that. He and Epstein ran a modeling, quote, unquote, modeling agency together. It was called MC Squared. And Jean Luc Brunel would go to Eastern Europe and buy girls, buy them.

And they had some. Something worked out with the government where they were able to get them passports or visas. I don’t know exactly how that went, but Donald Trump’s Name is also circled in the black book, But I haven’t found people that were. That were abused by Donald Trump as minors. I’m not saying it never happened. I’m just saying I haven’t been able to find them. And the Department of Justice, in that strange memo, said that there are over a thousand victims. And I agree with that. But there’s only 225 victims there. There was the Epstein victims compensation program, and only 225 victims came forward.

And. And I think that because I’ve talked to some of them that didn’t. And they were scared to death. Yeah, that would be my guess, too, is they were too intimidated to come forward, I would imagine. The Clintons show up, both Hillary and Bill. Bill does. Epstein has 25 contact numbers for Bill, but his name isn’t circle. Okay. Now, with the circling of names, Bill Clinton most likely didn’t go down to Florida and stay at Epstein’s place. And Donald Trump said that he’d never been to Epstein’s house, and that’s not true. And he also flew on Epstein’s plane.

So he’s told some lies about Jeffrey Epstein. But getting back to the Epstein victims compensation program, 225 victims apply for compensation, and 150 were awarded compensation, and 12 declined. Because if you got money from the Epstein victims compensation program, you had to sign an NDA and you couldn’t name any of your other perpetrators. And so that Epstein. That says a lot on itself, Nick. Yes, that Epstein victims compensation program is really dirty. Really dirty. And unfortunately, it’s been able to muffle the voices of a number of victims. And. And the thing about it is, victims heal by talking about their abuse.

And when they sign that NDA, boom, that’s it. That it’s game over. They. They can’t sue anybody else. And it’s run by David Boy, or David Boyes is one of the architects, and he’s a famous lawyer. He’s a dirty lawyer. And there’s also Jordana Feldman, who’s the administrator, and she is the administrator of. Was the administrator of the 911 fund. I haven’t been able to find anything dirty on Jordana Feldman, but there’s a long list of dirt on David Boyd’s. So there’s a long list of dirt on the 911 fund, too. Yes. Yes, exactly. I know you can’t do guilt by association or prior acts, but it shows a mindset that’s at work there.

But I can show directly that David Boyce is dirty. Yeah, it’s amazing. And I Just want to say one more thing about the victims compensation program. I’ve been in the field of anti child traffic for a number of years now. And the national center on Sexual Exploitation has three global summits or has global summits every year. And I’ve spoken at three of them. The International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation as an international meeting every year. I’ve spoken at that and I’ve. I’ve spoken at a number of conferences and I’ve gotten to know a number of psychologists and psychiatrists that work with victims of child sexual abuse.

And one of them called me a couple of years ago and she was very concerned because she was working with someone, a girl who she felt was trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. And the girl was under 10 years old, but she could describe Jeffrey Epstein, the interior of Jeffrey Epstein’s home in New York and, and other things that this therapist felt that if she wasn’t there, she couldn’t have just. She couldn’t. Wouldn’t be able to describe it. And that psychologist, who is really an eminent psychologist, helped the client apply for compensation from the Epstein Victims Compensation Program and she was denied.

And then I know another therapist who’s worked with a girl and this therapist believes that that girl was trafficked by Epstein when she was under 10 years old. And she also helped her client apply for compensation from the Epstein Victims Compensation Fund and was denied. And both the therapists think that the reason they were denied is the COVID story on Jeffrey Epstein is that no girls were younger than 14. When we know that there are girls younger than 14. There are multiple sources. Criminal. Nick, even if that was true, and I know it’s not too. I agree with you, but that’s still criminal.

It’s still criminal, but it just shows you how our media has just been obsequious to the government regarding Jeffrey Epstein. Yes. Well, then we get into who’s Epstein and who controlled him. Let me ask a base level question and go from here. I have a hard time believing there weren’t some connections with the cartel given their proclivities in this area. You and what cartel are you referring to? Well, I would name two in particular. The Caloas and the cjng. I haven’t found a connection there between them, those cartels and, and Jeffrey AB. I’m not flying blind on this one though, Nick, because I’ve been told by Border Patrol.

That’s why I came to that. And, and they’re real reticent to come public. Although JJ Carell was coming out about this now. And he’s retired Border Patrol. The thing is there, the, the border has been very porous for children that have been smuggling into the United States. I don’t dispute that, but I don’t believe that as far as I know, and I’ve been investigating Jeffrey Epstein since 2012. I don’t think any of them were in the Jeffrey Epstein network. As far as I know, he primarily trafficked American children and Eastern European children. I don’t know of any other type of children that, that he trafficked.

Yeah. And the allegation was from Border Patrol. I’ve talked to it’s procurement. And then they take the creme de la creme is what they thought was going on and discard the rest, thus leading to some of the 300,000 missing kids under the Biden administration. That’s how it was presented to me. And if, you know, we know what we know. And I just wondered about that. And then the other, the other issue is too is my mentor in this business was a CIA asset and the late Bill Pollack and he got me going in this business. And Bill told me very clearly about, we talked about your book, the Franklin scandal.

He was aware of the interview that we had done prior. And he said, Dave, even if you did nothing wrong as a congressman, if you went to one of these parties, camera angles can be manipulated and can make you look like you did something wrong. And to avoid problems, your votes gets compromised on, on key issues. Was he accurate in that statement? Yes. I mean, people have said that what happens at those parties is people get roofied and then they wake up and there’s pictures of little girls or little boys on them. I’ve, I’ve heard that happening too.

And then sometimes 615 or 16 year olds look like they’re 18. And that’s where people can get compromised. With the parties at Craig Spence’s, he was, he’s one of the pedophilic pimps in the Franklin scandal. He would invite power brokers and congressmen and people from the administration to his parties and he would ply them with alcohol for about four or five hours. And then maybe at around 10 or something there would be like something sexually inappropriate or someone would break out cocaine or fire up a joint or, or whatever. And then the people that were uncomfortable with that split.

And then the people that stuck around got compromised. I mean, that’s just how it worked. And I, I got to, with the Franklin scandal, I got to one of the blackmail photographers and, and I was trying to get my mind around it. And I said, well, well, how does this work? And he goes, once you’re compromised, it’s like you’re on a yacht and it’s a beautiful yacht and it’s a beautiful day, and you can have anything you want on the yacht, but if you decide to get off the yacht, the people on the yacht are going to make sure that you drown.

So once you’re compromised, there’s zero incentive to come forward and say, hey, I’m compromised. It is pretty amazing. I want to go to the present time here with Pam Bondi and Trump and the deflection Trump did in a recent press conference with a question. I assume Bondi is following orders. And is it your position, from what I’m hearing, that Trump is protecting Bush and this is the main motivation, or is he also protecting himself? Well, I think Trump is protecting a lot of powerful people. This has been covered up under two presidential administrators, two Democratic administrations, two Republican administrations, and now a fifth Republican administration.

So I believe that they’re protecting powerful people. But what’s even more important is they’re protecting a system, a system of blackmail. That’s what I’ve concluded is that if Americans really knew how perfidious their political system was with blackmail, that would send a lot of them out into the streets. So I believe that Trump is covering up for a number of powerful people and also a political system. Yeah, we, we can get into Pambani. On February 26, she proclaimed that the Epstein files were on her desk. And she keeps. Go ahead. No, you’re right. She said, I have the list.

Bongino and Patel both said, you know, we’re going through and determining appropriateness and protecting victims and blah, blah, blah, but it’s going to come out. And. And then I saw the interview with Patel and Bongino. I used to teach body language, Nick, and I got to tell you, they weren’t buying what they were being forced to say. Well, here’s how it. Bonnie just kept digging a hole deeper and deeper and deeper, which led to that very strange memo that came out last week. So she says that she’s got the Epstein files on her desk and that she’s going to release them.

And then she releases them. And, like, there’s no new revelations. When we released the black book, we redacted the numbers of the adults and we redacted the names or the last names and the numbers of the victims because there were well over 100 victims in the black book. And the black book that Bonnie released was the black book that I released, but she redacted every name. Every name. So I released more incriminating information about Jeffrey Epstein and his network than Pam in 2015 than Pam Bonnie did in 2025. But then these documents came out, and there was no new revelations.

And Pambani then said that she’d been bamboozled by the FBI’s New York Field office. Yes. So either she’s lying about the Epstein files or she’s inept and she didn’t look at them. And I was willing to cut her slack and say, okay, she’s not lying. She’s inept. But then there were some very egregious lies. She said that a truckload of evidence on the Epstein case, that she had a truckload of evidence on the Epstein case and only matters that were related to national security would be redacted. So now she has to tell us why a bunch of child molesters would have any bearing whatsoever on national security.

And then ultimately, she said that there were tens of or thousands of hours of child abuse material and hundreds of victims. And I agree with that. But here’s the thing. The day after Jeffrey Epstein was arrested in 2019, the FBI opened his safe. So they had all of that. They had disks. They had hard drives. There were hundreds, if not thousands, according to the New York times, there were hundreds, if not thousands of child abuse images. So we’re supposed to believe that the FBI opened that safe in 2019 and didn’t look at any of it for six years? The dark side of the FBI and the malignant corner of intelligence that deployed people like Epstein, they were looking at that stuff that day and probably did it in shifts, and nobody got any sleep.

I mean, so for her to say that it’s been sitting around for six years without being looked at is completely absurd. It’s not believable at all. I agree with you. Have you found any connections between Diddy and his empire and. And Epstein? There is one connection that I know of. The same u. S. Attorney that really made Maxwell’s trial into a farce was the same U.S. attorney that oversaw a grand jury on Diddy. His name is Damian Williams. And Damian Williams was the assistant attorney for the southern district of New York, which is considered to be the most powerful federal law enforcement position in New York city.

And he oversaw ghislaine Maxwell’s trial. And only four victims were called. And those four victims had only been molested by Maxwell and Epstein. So they didn’t know about the wider network. And it was a very, very carefully Choreographed trial. And then we flip over to Diddy. What’s going on with Diddy is that. Went on with Spence, went on with Epstein is there’s civil lawsuits coming out about Diddy. And at the time that grand jury was impaneled, there were five civil lawsuits that, that had come out. And two of those civil lawsuits dealt with minors. One had been trapped.

A minor had been trafficked from Detroit to New York to be molested by Diddy and I think a couple others. So two of those lawsuits dealt with minors. And then there was little Rod’s lawsuit. He, Rodney Jones, he’s a hip hop producer who worked with Diddy. And his lawsuit said that there were multiple minors and he actually wanted nothing to do with it, but did. He was a thug and, and really coerced him. And then he also talked about the hidden cameras, and we have a Homeland Security officer talking about the hidden cameras to the New Post.

So there, there were hidden cameras, but here’s the, the common denominator. And not only Damian Williams and you, you see people recycled. Like William Barr was the attorney general that covered up the Franklin scandal, and William Barr was the attorney general under Trump’s first administration that covered up Epstein. So with William Barr and with Damian Williams, you see these people recycled over and over because the grand jury that Damen Williams oversaw, it didn’t indict P. Diddy on a single count. Yeah, that’s right. You’re right. Of child abuse. So what we see is these dirty guys getting recycled over and over and over again.

You can see them starting with the JFK and Watergate, Iran Contra. It’s. Yeah, we see, we see this all the time. I agree. What, what did you come across? Naomi Campbell. Because he’s been linked to both Diddy and Epstein. Naomi Campbell is in the black book. And I do think her name is circled. Yeah, I, I think you’re right. And to me, if you really want to know the truth, and you’re a federal official, that’s who you bring out. And, and perhaps there’s an immunity agreement. I mean, you could do a number of things here. But I think she’s one of the keys and she’s, I think her life’s in jeopardy, to be honest with you, because those associations between the two groups are growing stronger in the past week with the Bondi controversy.

Her name keeps coming up. Have you ever. I’m going to take a Hail Mary here. Just off target. We don’t need to spend any time if you’re not sure about it, but I’VE always suspected Scalia was a victim of this process. Not that he was a participant. I’ve never been able to prove that. But the circumstances of his death were very, very suspicious. And he supposedly was telling Roberts to knock his crap off, so to speak. And having compromised rulings because he was compromised. And this is something I’ve tried to walk away from this, Nick, because I couldn’t prove it with double confirmation, but the story keeps resurfacing.

Have you ever looked into the Scalia situation and reach any conclusions? I’ve heard about it, but I’m agnostic. I. I just haven’t investigated. Okay. All right. Yeah. I’ll tell you where there could be indictments and indictments tomorrow or indictments next week is In August of 2019, the New York Times ran an article and it named six of Jeffrey Epstein’s pimps. I think I believe they call him procures. But procurers are essentially pimps. One was Glenn Maxwell, who we know is a perpetrator and a pimp. But according to that strange memo, she had nothing to do with Epstein.

I don’t know. It’s. But Sarah Kellen, Leslie Groff, Adriana Ross, and Nadia Marcinkova, they know all about Jeffrey Epstein’s trafficking network, all about it. And they facilitated child trafficking for a number of years. And if the Department of Justice really wanted indictments in this case, they could indict those four women on multiple counts of child trafficking, which is a heavy, heavy indictment. It’s sentence, it’s 15 to life. So you could indict them on five counts of, I mean, who knows how many children they’ve trafficked or participated in trafficking. But you’re going to indict them on many counts of child trafficking.

So they would be looking at life in prison. And then they would roll over on the pers. There you go. We know who a lot of the perss are, but they would roll over on the pers. If the, if the Justice Department was serious, this is exactly how it would go down. And then there’s, there’s limo drivers, there’s pilots. There’s a lot of people that were part of this that the Justice Department could call in and grill and, and indict. It’s, it’s so frustrating because the COVID up is so institutionalized at the highest levels that even with people with nothing to hide are still going to hide it because of the political ramifications.

You know, another thing that came to mind, too, is some of the people that are being protected very well could be the donor class for both political parties. Have you found that too? Well, I mean, think, look at all the, the billionaires that have been named are showing up with Epstein. There’s Bill Gates, there’s Glenn Dubin, there’s Leon Black. I mean, it just goes, there’s Less Wexner. It just goes on and on and on. And Jeffrey Epstein, he came from a, essentially a blue collar family. His father was a gardener for New York City and he grew up in a lower middle class neighborhood.

And then he was a college dropout. But then he was hired by, by Donald Barr, William Barr’s father, to, to teach at Dalton School, which is one of the most prestigious preparatory schools in the United States, if not the most prestigious. So a college dropout was given a job at Dalton and then he was fired from Dalton, and then he was enmeshed with Stephen Hoffenberg. And Stephen Hoffenberg pulled off the largest Ponzi scheme, I believe, up until Bernie Madoff. And he went to prison for, he was in federal prison for 18 years. And he actually owned the New York Post and he had all the creature comforts.

And I interviewed him twice, I spent a lot of time with him. And later he pivoted and said that Jeffrey Epstein was part of his Ponzi scheme. But he didn’t say that to me, so I don’t know what to make of that. But, but we do know that he was hired from Bear Stearns and fired from Bear Stearns. And then after that, his career became meteoric. He was. Les Wexner gave him power of attorney over his vast fortune. And Les Wexner. So the billions of dollars that Les Wexner had, Jeffrey Epstein could do whatever he wanted with him.

Yeah, that was his big breakthrough, wasn’t it? Yeah. And, but here’s, and this is just another example of how disingenuous the media is. According to Vanity Fair, the reason why Les Wexner gave Jeffrey Epstein the keys to his kingdom was because he was lonely. I mean, the difference between fact and fiction is fiction has to make sense. And, and then Leon Black gave Jeffrey Epstein $160 million. And the, and now I think there were multiple media outlets that reported that the reason why Leon Black gave Jeffrey Epstein $160 million was Jeffrey Epstein was helping him with his taxes.

Now, a guy like Leon Black, who’s the head of a CEO of Apollo Management, he’s a multi billionaire. I mean, he’s got a battalion of accountants. He’s not going to pay one penny more than he has to in taxes. He’s probably paying less in taxes than you and me are. So the media is just very disingenuous. And when I, for a number of years as I investigated Epstein, I thought that this was all due to blackmail. But actually I think that they’re was definitely a blackmail component with epine, but I think that there was a huge money laundering component.

Interesting. Yeah, that’s, I wish we had time to get into that because we’re almost at the end. Very quickly, we have to have a quick answer on this. CIA and Mossad connections to Epstein. With Epstein, people say that he was working for the Mossad. And that very well may have been the truth. But I just don’t see the CIA allowing the Mossad to compromise American politicians and American power brokers on American soil without getting a cut of that intelligence. I just don’t think it’s going to happen. I totally agree with that. There is no way that that happened.

I totally, I totally agree with you, Nick. I, I, and I just want to end this with one thing that really makes okay. An organization called Epstein justice. It’s a 501C3 and it’s very important because what we’re asking for is a congressional commission, independent congressional commission to look into, investigate Jeffrey Epstein and tell us why the government covered up child trafficking and also to prosecute the perpetrators. Very simple. That’s what we want. But it’s going to be a fight because we’re going to have to get a majority in the House, a majority in the Senate to vote for it.

But it’s like I said earlier, our political system is a sewer and we, we have to clean it out. And I think this is going to be the best opportunity in our lifetimes. But there’s another reason this is, there’s another reason beside that. According to the Centers for disease control, 25% of American girls and 20 and 5% of American boys have been molested when they were underage. And people in the field think it’s slightly conservative for underage girls and very conservative for underage boys. But if you just go with the CDC numbers, you got over 50 million Americans that have been molested as minors.

And then the Department of Health and Human Services commissioned a study and they found that between 240,000 and 325,000 women and children are trafficked every year in the United States. And this is where it gets really, really kind of mind boggling. According to the 2023 Federal Human Trafficking Report, only 664 individuals were charged with child trafficking in 2023. So if we go with the. The department of health and human services lowest number, 240,000, that’s go with the lowest number. And we see that only 664 individuals are. Are even charged. I mean that’s a fraction of 1% of the people that are trafficking children are.

Are even charged. And millions of hours of child abuse material infest the Internet. And in 2024, the US Sentencing Commission said that only 1375 individuals in the U. S were convicted of crimes and channel entailing child abuse material. So again, like with trafficking, the people that are. And. And there’s a huge crossover but like people were trafficking and and the makers of child abuse material, the pro. It’s just a fraction of 1%. And this is where this is really important. If we allow the justice department to be apathetic and unresponsive to victims in the Epstein case, a proven trafficking case, we’re saying that’s sending a message to millions of victims in the United States that they have no voice and no hope for justice.

So that’s another reason why this has to get corrected. So the millions of people that have been molested or trafficked in the United States believe that they can have a voice and that there can be justice. If you want to follow Nick’s work, Epsteinjustice.com is where you go. And Nick, I’d like to have you back on as circumstances warrant to get your update and your thoughts on things. We’re over time, but it was a good overtime. I want to thank you so much for coming on and renewing acquaintances and look forward to talking to you again.

Okay, Dave, have a great day. Thank you.
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