Technological Abundance Is Coming? Sarah Questions Reality

➡ The article discusses the mental health issues faced by 94% of kids due to various reasons, including the high cost of living and the fear state induced by the internet. It introduces Brett Hurt, a successful entrepreneur and investor who believes in an era of abundance and love. However, the article also highlights the potential misuse of powerful tools by bad people and the need to address this issue. It ends by emphasizing the importance of maintaining muscle mass while losing weight and promoting a peptide product.
➡ Bazaar Voice, a global company that powers customer reviews for online shopping, was founded by an entrepreneur who achieved his dream of taking a company public by age 40. The company, which values customer service and respects its employees, has inspired over 70 other businesses. The founder believes that while AI is often seen as a cost-cutting tool, it can actually improve customer service and help companies expand into new markets. However, he acknowledges that the rapid pace of technological change can be stressful and confusing for many people, and emphasizes the importance of human connection.
➡ This text discusses the potential of technology, like solar energy and robotics, to create abundance and solve global issues like hunger and energy scarcity. However, it also warns about the misuse of these technologies by corrupt individuals or entities. The text emphasizes the need to address the root causes of problems and not just their symptoms, and to ensure that advancements in technology are used ethically and for the benefit of all, not just for profit.
➡ The text discusses the misuse of technology by corrupt individuals and the potential harm it can cause. It also highlights the importance of understanding the negative aspects of technology, and the need for engineers and tech experts to consider these when developing new tools. The text further discusses societal issues such as gender inequality and the objectification of women, and the need for balance and respect. Lastly, it touches on the topic of mental health issues among children, the negative impacts of capitalism, and the potential of energy solutions like solar and plasma.
➡ The speaker discusses the potential of AI in solving complex problems like disease but criticizes tech companies like Google for their monopolistic control and potential misuse of power. They argue that these companies are more focused on profit than on the betterment of humanity. The speaker also expresses concern about the manipulation of people’s thoughts and memories through media and social media algorithms. Despite these concerns, they acknowledge the potential of open-source AI and the opportunities it could create for small businesses.
➡ The speaker discusses the potential of AI in creating new job opportunities and improving various sectors, including healthcare and small businesses. However, they also express concern about AI replacing a significant percentage of jobs and the need for a universal basic income. They believe that AI, like electricity, can be used in various fields, such as training plumbers or assisting doctors in diagnosing diseases. The speaker also touches on the topic of nuclear weapons and the potential intervention of extraterrestrial beings to prevent humanity from self-destruction.
➡ The text discusses the potential of science and technology, particularly brain-computer interfaces, to solve major societal issues. It suggests that early identification and treatment of psychopathic tendencies in children could prevent future problems, including crime and drug addiction. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of open, challenging conversations and the rewarding nature of entrepreneurship. Lastly, they promote their book and podcast, which explore these topics further.

Not when we’re seeing 94% of the kids having mental health issues. Well, you know why they’re having mental health issues. I mean, there’s numerous reasons. One is like, everything has gotten way more expensive because of, you know, again, capitalism cuts both ways. So a lot of parents are just trying to make ends meet. We have a tremendous amount of suffering because people are constantly in this fear state. So even though we’re the most connected we’ve ever been, there’s, you know, via the Internet, there’s a lot of people who are just stuck in an algorithmic program constantly in this state of fear.

And we’ve got to break out that. Welcome to business Game changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have Brett Hurt coming to the program. He is now, this guy’s a really good guy, and I kind of feel sorry for him because I, I, I just was hard on him the whole time and, but these are the kind of conversations that I think we need to be having. Even if they’re, they feel confrontational and they’re, they’re a little bit difficult to have. I cannot shy away from him. He is a successful entrepreneur and investor, and he was named the top entrepreneur on Austin last year.

And he runs an investment firm now with his wife after making hundreds of millions of dollars building companies. And he believes that we are entering into era of abundance and love conquers all. He has a new book out of how love conquers all and that we are entering into an era of abundance. And I sure hope he’s right. Right. I like his attitude, but I think we need to look at the problems in the world. And he claims his books does looks at the problems. And I push back a little bit. And I just think that sometimes the best people that we have on the planet aren’t able to see, especially the scientists, the engineers, the entrepreneurs creating these things, they look at just the positives and they don’t realize what their creations do on a dark side.

And if you don’t get the bad guys out from the psychopaths who somehow always get into power, if you don’t get those guys out of the way, the good people aren’t able to produce what they need to produce. But the worst part is that the bad guys can use these very, very powerful tools as control mechanisms. And so how do we ensure that humanity is going down a road of abundance and love and positive without getting this out of the way? I mean, we’re sitting in a time where 94%. There’s a study that just came out of California.

It shows that 94% of kids, it’s not just kids, it’s. It’s older teens and, and young adults up to 25 are. Have had serious mental issues over the last month, over the last 30 days and month, mental struggles. And 25% of them have it on, on a regular basis. Very severe. So what does that mean? What, what are we facing and how do we. Can we really create a world of abundance where when we’re dealing with some serious issues that people want to ignore, they’re just so excited about the future that they’re rushing, running as fast as they can to create these tools and these things and not realizing they’re creating the tools and putting it right in the hands of these bad guys.

Well, you kind of got to take care of this and understand if society hasn’t caught up to how quickly technology is going. I mean, I honestly think that we are in this middle road. I think we’re at a dual point where we can go one way or the other way. And I think humanity, the majority of the people really are going to this love and abundance in their minds. But we have too many psychopaths and bad guys with power who are getting a hold of these incredible tools and using it in ways for control. And until we face that, I think that we are just being naive and just.

It’s like running a business and not fixing any of the problems and just thinking everything’s rosy. And meanwhile, you’re just creating a whole trail of tears, right, because you don’t know what you’re doing. I think that’s the situation that we’re in. And so we’re at a crossroads where we have so many amazing possibilities coupled with a lot of serious issues if we don’t take care of things. So kind of give me grace in this one again because I’m. I’m having the conversation. I’m going there with this guy and I hope you can appreciate it. This guy is a great guy.

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Sure, yeah. So I am fortunate to be born in the right place, right time, with the right passion. So when I was growing up here in Austin, UT Austin had some of the original Cray supercomputers which preceded me being born. And as a result, a lot of researchers moved here. It’s very similar to Silicon Valley story. And because of that, there were programming user groups. And I started programming at age 7 in 1979, because I had an amazing mom who saw that that would be a passion for me, learned how to program with me, and then let me do that obsessively.

So I programmed over 40 hours a week from age 7 and up. And as a result, I knew that I was here to help change the world for the better through technology. And I started companies starting at the age of 24. I’m 54 now, so I’ve been an entrepreneur for 30 years. I was really well prepared for the Internet moment because of how long I’d been programming. And fortunately, I learned how to get out from behind the computer and start to sell and start to become a CEO and learn how to hire great teams and work with them.

And my biggest success to date was a company called Bazaar Voice. And Bazaar Voice means voice of the marketplace. And it really popularized customer reviews all over the world. So when you shop online, let’s say Sephora or Nordstrom or the Home Depot, and you’re reading those customer reviews, you’re engaging with the voice of the marketplace. And that is powered by Bazaar Voice, which has become a big global company. It’s over 60 international languages now, you know, tens of thousands of customers. And that was like a dream come true. I actually set a goal when I was 25, getting my MBA at the Wharton School.

And I told my parents this, my wife, I’ve been married for 30 years, as well as a handful of friends, because it was pretty daunting goal. I said, I’m going to found a company and take it public by the time I turn 40. And I turned 40 on our IPO roadshow and we had over a billion dollar outcome. And that was a dream come true. I mean, that’s the entrepreneurial dream. And I wish everybody that type of success. And, you know, Bizarre Voice has now birthed over 70 companies from former Bizarre Voice team members. And the thing I’m most proud of is that and the fact that they say they’ve taught, they’ve taken the culture with them because we were rated the number one place to work in Austin when we’re.

Wow. Wow. That’s. Yeah, all three. Wow. Wow. That’s a big, big feat. Because as you know, in this cold world, the business world, they’ve gotten especially big tech. They’ve gotten to the point where they just treat people like disposable everything. Right. I mean, it’s just really a gruesome world. People are disposable, creators are disposable. We’ve moved into a different era, I think, where, you know, where everything, customer service is automated. You can’t ever reach a real person. And so to still, you know, live up to the ideal of treating people with respect is something that is almost like a bygone era.

You think that’s going to come back? I do think it’s going to come back. And I actually don’t agree that that’s broadly the case. I think that that’s the narrative that the media wants us to believe. The media algorithms are tuned to constantly be hijacking our fear center. A lot of CEOs are using AI, for example, as an excuse to do cost cutting and layoffs because they’re bloated from the pandemic era where they kind of sized up to be too big. And so they’re using that as a convenient excuse because the market will accept that. So you think the media is using it because that’s been my experience.

I mean, I’ve been treated like absolute crap and I don’t see big tech treating people with respect. I think it depends on which big tech company you’re talking about and which tier of customer you are. I think that. What do you mean? What tier of customer? So only if you’re like wealthy? Yeah, I mean if you’re. No, not, not necessarily if you’re wealthy, but like if you’re a big company, you’re going to get like top tier service from an OpenAI or Microsoft or Google. If you’re a small company, they try to save on cost by having customer support be more of an online.

So how, but how does that, how does that do anything other than show what I’m saying is true? So only the big guys. We care about you if you have a lot of power. Other than that we are. You’re disposable and you’re not. You’re have no value to us. I mean, you know what I’m Saying that’s how you’re treated. They might value you, they want a bunch of you, but they’re not going to put resources into you. It’s not like it used to be where everyone, the actual person is valued. Now it’s only if you have power are you valued.

Well, I think you’re exemplifying why I’m an entrepreneur. Like, I’ve founded companies where we’ve treated customer service as job one and as a result we’ve done really well versus the big companies. I’ve actually never started a company. It became like Microsoft or something. No, no, I’m glad I’m talking to you because you’re you and so I’m push back against you. But you’ve been like awarded the top workplace you’re treating. You’re trying to get people to see things differently. So I’m pushing it back against you saying, but I am talking to somebody who doesn’t live that way.

I want people to know that. So when I’m, I, I am like being hard on you on this thing because I don’t see the world in this rosy way that you do. But if the world was rosy, there wouldn’t be an entrepreneurial opportunity, right? Yeah, that’s partially true. It does create the opportunity for startups. Like I’ve always said, when you’re starting a company, you should treat every customer as truly precious and really just beat their expectations on things like customer service. I do think that AI has the opportunity to make people much better in customer service and I think the smartest companies will do that because what’s happening with AI is it’s shattering the barrier to creativity.

A lot of people are kind of just looking at it as a productivity tool. And it’s true that it increases productivity, but the smartest companies are going to use it actually to increase customer support, like decrease wait times and get people answers faster. They’re going to use it to create products that have been on the shelf that they haven’t had the quote unquote resources to build and enter new markets, you know, go after new geographies that they, you know, I mean, just think about the ease now, you know, Bazaar voice prior to the AI moment, you know, we went into 60 international languages.

Well, just hiring the translation people to translate our application and be able to moderate all this customer review content across all those languages was incredibly hard. I mean, now I can real time. I was just in Bali at a meditation retreat and I was talking to a guy that lives on the border between Russia and Mongolia. And we’re having a fluent conversation because I was using ChatGPT as the auto translator for us. But, you know, you can build interfaces now for a fraction of the cost to enter new markets, and you can service customers in all types of multilingual ways for a fraction of the cost.

Well, okay, well, we can do that. Okay. So now let’s segment out the world. Okay. Because you’re coming from a fluent background. And I mean, I can’t complain either. I mean, when I look at my. I mean, I can’t complain either. My story is fairly similar to yours and I going into tech early and all that stuff. Okay. I got into media about 15 years ago and I got a harsh reality of what the real world was like. Right. And started covering real journalistic and talking to people at the edge of change and seeing some pretty brutal things through my experience as a journalist.

Right, right. The world’s very different. You come out when you’re a scientist or you’re in these like, very money lucrative worlds. You kind of have almost. I mean, you’re in a bubble, you know, you really are. Of what you could see the world to be. And then you see, wow, the other people are really, really suffering. There was just a study that came out that showed that 94 of kids in California. And this is pretty accurate across the country. And I don’t know, maybe it’s exaggerated, but even if it’s remotely exaggerated, it’s still a really, really strong red flag.

94% of teens and young adults up to 25 have had mental health issues over the last 30 days. Some of them severe, like 25% severe. Yeah, I believe that. Yeah. Yeah. So we’re dealing with some pretty serious issues. And while I think AI can solve some of this and we’re going to talk through it, I don’t know if computers can save some of this. Some of this is just. Let’s start being together more as human beings. So where do we draw the line between, okay, AI can really take a lot of stress off our lives. The stress maybe is what’s causing this.

The world’s moving so fast that humanity just can’t keep up. Maybe the tech entrepreneurs can, maybe the people who can see the future, maybe the real. The people who understand what’s going on. But when the world around you is changing so fast and you don’t understand it. Yeah, it’s. There’s a big difference between understanding the change and not understanding the change. Right. Yeah. Well, this is what the. This is what my podcast and my Book, which is called. My new book coming out on June 23, is called Love Conquers Fear, Humanity, AI and the Age of Abundance for All.

And I’ve got a podcast of the same name which as of this recording, has 58 episodes live. And basically what I see happening is that we’re in this exponential, exponential curve. There’s a lot of suffering in the world because of the current constructs of technology, capitalism. What I meant by my critique of the media was not a critique of the free press. Like, I’m a huge fan of the free press. It’s a bedrock of democracy. It’s a critique of the algorithms which will put profits over people, meaning that a social media company or media company, if I want to capture your attention, I’m a lot better off if I don’t care about ethics to try to scare you and hijack your amygdala.

And the reason why is that we as Homo sapiens have been around for 300,000 years and we’ve only had electricity for 0.1% of our evolutionary time. And so we’ve had scarcity for so much time on this planet that we, you and I can’t imagine. Like, you know, you and I are doing this right now. We have stable electricity. There are countries in the world like chad, where the GDP is $660 a person versus our 86,000 in the US they don’t have, like, electricity, clean water, healthcare, food. I mean, you know, they’re a lot of people that are starving, barely.

They don’t have to be. I mean, because we just don’t invest in people, we invest in other things. Yeah. I mean, if you just didn’t do war, a few of these wars, everyone would be fed and taken care of. Well, and the thing is that what’s going to happen here as we write up this exponential curve is it’s going to create the opportunity for us to create abundance, including distribution. Abundance. Like, we have enough food right now to feed the entire world. It’s just not evenly distributed because it’s not quote, unquote, profitable to ship food to Chad.

They can’t afford to buy that food at the prices that it would make sense for a company to ship it. Right. But as robotics come online, as we decode the energy of the sun, you know, if we could capture 18 seconds of the sun’s rays that fall on Earth, it would power America’s energy needs for over a year. Well, we can just happen to plasma energy and deal with their energy issues right away. We don’t even have to do solar. It’s just the plasma energy tech which is being seriously taking it, taking, looking at and they’re developing it for space travel and different things.

That stuff has been, has been shut down, suppressed and, and people who’ve been in the forefront of that have been killed. Well, I think that, I think the big thing is going to be solar. If you look at solar energy starts, they’re going why not plasma? Why not plasma when it’s more powerful and cleaner? I mean it’s just, you don’t have to sit and spend because developing solar panels and the, the manufacturing of it is not very clean. Well, I mean it’s a, it’s a good point. I mean, you know, there’s this whole zero point energy theory, right that it’s not a theory that we could just manifest it from thin air and it’s not a theory.

I mean you look at Colorado, University of Colorado, Boulder. I mean I’ve talked lot of scientists in that area. This isn’t theory, this is real. And I’ve talked to scientists at the edge of, you know, working on space travel and stuff. It’s not theory, it’s real. Yeah, well, I mean we, we know what 4% of the universe is made of. We call it matter 96. We call dark energy and dark matter. We have no idea what it is. I, we do know what some of it is. I mean we know that plasma exists. But anyways, keep going.

Yeah, I mean I, I do agree with you. Like look, I think we’re going to have energy abundance that we can’t even imagine. And if you think about the Maslow hierarchy, it starts with energy. Like if there’s no sun, you know, sun’s going to last another billion years. There’s no life. Right. I mean the sun is the giver of all life on planet Earth. And you know, yes, if we can do it through plasma, we can do it through zero point. That’s great. I just think that the data right now in terms of the undeniable proof of like what’s.

There’s no onto solar. Well, it’s solar because there’s a lot of money to be made and they’ve killed the scientists and shut down and suppress the, the, the advancements in that other area. I mean just, I mean honestly that is what I’ve seen as I do more and more research and it’s like. And you, and you’re seeing that in every field, anytime somebody really makes a difference is because if there is a massive amount of money that can be made or if there is already a massive infrastructure, they’re not messing around, they’re just going to take them out.

I mean, we fight wars over production of oil. Why would you not just kill a scientist if it’s going to, you know. Well, look at the solar data. I mean like, there’s no shutting that down. Like it’s, it’s, it’s has escaped velocity at this point. Yeah, but solar data is, I mean it’s still a massive clunky environment. It’s clunky compared to plasma. It can replace the industry because you have to build them. There’s distribution. It’s not really, it’s not like plasma that’s clean and repeatable forever kind of stuff. It’s, it’s a clunky, money greedy environment that people think is better, but it actually is dirty to create it.

Do you know what I’m saying? It’s not, that’s going to be, that’s going to be solved pretty quickly because we, we’re looking at a future of solar powered robotics that are going to come online, which I think we’re going to be able to clean up the earth and make it a healed jewel over the next few decades. And so we better start cleaning up the plastics in the oceans. Yeah, absolutely. We got to stop focusing our attention on carbon instead of, you got to get to the source of the problem. I totally agree. And the people who are looking at the source of the problem aren’t getting the funding.

All the funding is going to this, to the, what do you call it? The symptoms, not the sources. Yeah, and that’s, well, that’s why we need this exponential curve to get to the other side and create abundance for everyone on the planet, including countries like Chad, including the parts of America which have really been hollowed out. And once we, once we ride up this exponential curve, we’re going to be able to see abundance that we can’t imagine. I mean, you know, if you go back to. Well, but, but you can’t just assume that though, don’t we need to get to the source of problems to be able to see abundance? And the source of problems are being people who are actually looking at the source of problems right now are being suppressed and taken out.

And they’re not focused on, they’re not taken seriously, they’re smeared, their reputations are smeared. We have to get past that. If we even remotely think we’re going to become this world of abundance. I mean there’s a lot of very positive breakthroughs happening. One of the Things I started is a newsletter weekly called the Super Effective Signal. And the Super Effecta is a term I use in the book of the exponential acceleration of AI quantum computing, robotics and brain computer interfaces. And every day there are amazing scientific breakthroughs happening on that front. We have as much tech progress in a week now than we had a year, 10 years ago every.

And it’s accelerating even faster. Absolutely. Yeah. And I’ve been talking about that for years. But the flip side of that is now they have the ability to do mind control on people with these, this technology. So if you don’t deal with the corruption at the very top and you give them powerful tools that they’ve never, I mean it’s the most powerful tools the humanity has ever found and we’re not smart enough to take care of the corruption problems. Now all you’re doing is handing these powerful tools to the most corrupt people on the planet. Because the most powerful, the most are the ones who rise to some of these or the most corrupt are the ones who rise to some of these most powerful positions.

And so while there is all these positive things there’s you can do. I mean when I was young and I, I was responsible for the, the system design and development for enterprise which was, we had 90% of the backbone of the, the Internet at the time. And I was doing all the data structure before I was did that. I was responsible for doing the data structure for the, the Internet. And I said we’re gonna bring, we’re gonna bring freed. I, I was like, God, this is gonna bring freedom to the world. We’re gonna be. And because that’s all I saw was the perspective of what the tech can do.

I didn’t take the other perspective of oh my God, when this technology is in the hands of corrupt powerful people, what the tech can do. And that’s the problem of scientists and engineers. They only look at the positive side and they’re not, they’re too naive. And in the expansion of what is possible versus what is possible in the good sense because they’re good hearted people like you. You had the best company in Austin for working at. You’re a good hearted person. So it’s almost unfathomable to think that these people who are corrupt could do this with the technology.

But until we hit that straight on and realize these people can do this too and we don’t take care of that corruption as a society, we are going to suffer. I’m not going to disagree with you. I mean I think that the atrocity of how people are constantly trying to keep us locked in a fear state is a form, as you would say, of mind control. Like if I am just click, click, clicking like a mouse looking for cheese in a maze to get that next hit of, oh my gosh, this horrible thing is happening in a world of 8.2 billion humans.

Every single day there’s going to be some horrible murder or something and the algorithms are going to push that to you versus all the scientific breakthroughs. And the reason is that that’s the way our brains are wired. But we’re not taken care of. Yeah, but we’re not dealing with the issue of the people in power using these tools and technology to harm us. And if you can send emotions and you can send things to people’s minds, I mean what we really need is the engineers and the technology people who get it, who understand how to do these amazing developments to help humanity to understand the dark side too.

We just, I mean the naive misunderstanding of the dark side is going to be our demise. If we don’t understand the dark side, we’re screwed. And I’m telling you that straight out because all you’re doing is developing these amazing tools for bad guys. And until you understand that, until we get our arms around that, we are marching into, we’re like sheep marching into slaughter. It’s like the, it’s like the founders said, if you don’t know what’s going on, you’re sheep marching in the slaughter. You have to understand this and the mentality behind it. I’m pushing back big time and I am so sorry I’m doing this to you.

That’s right. No, I mean, you know, I, I’m not going to disagree with you. I, you know, my book is very clear eyed on all the problems that we have. I mean the book covers, like why do we have fear, like how our brains are wired, how it’s constantly being propagated on us. How can we have abundance for everyone on the planet? And then I go through and I talk about the biggest challenges we have. Geopolitics, healthcare, education. One chapter that a lot of people are surprised is one of my chapters is on the objectification of women.

On the thousands of years of women being subjugated around the world. That’s where the othering comes out that punches down still are. I mean we, I mean we. And we’re disrespected. I mean like you can you. The amount of work that you have to do to be respected as a woman and I don’t care People are going to push back, whatever, but you are not respected to the same level that a guy is. I mean a guy is like ushered on a conveyor belt. A woman runs into walls every freaking five feet. And there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of examples in earlier periods of history where women were the most revered.

Really? Oh yeah. There’s lots of. Well, that would bring us some hope maybe. Not that we shouldn’t be more revered than men. It should be a balance. It should absolutely be a balance. I mean we’re talking about genetically all human beings on this planet are 99.9% the same and we’re about a 50, 50 balance. Right. And so like I was raised by an amazing woman that really instilled in me a lot of love in my heart and a lot of respect. I’ve been married for 30 years. I have tremendous respect for my wife. I treat her truly as an equal.

We make all investment decisions together. Outside of the six companies I founded with great teams, we’ve also invested in 151 startups, me and my wife. 12 of them are unicorns and we’re in 50 VC funds and I never make an investment decision without her meeting with entrepreneur. Well, you are unique and I think that you are a living example of what makes a marriage amazing. My husband and I operate as a partnership too. That’s awesome. And it, I just, I don’t see many people around that have that. I mean he, I think he’s a better person than I am.

I just say that he’s better than I am. But my, my kids are very well balanced and doing very well because of it. Right. Likewise. Yeah, yeah. It’s amazing how much it, it just totally permeates. But their friends aren’t in this. Most of their friends aren’t in the same boat. Yeah, no, I mean we, we have a lot of people because of the. Look, I’m a huge fan of capitalism. We have lifted so many people out of starvation and poverty. If you go back 250 years, 90% of the world was illiterate and 80% lived in abject poverty.

Obviously we’ve, we’ve progressed a lot, but we have put profits over people in lots of cases. You think about the opioid endemic and the pharmaceutical non stop. You think about what’s happening with the constant trying to hijack people, keeping them in a fear state. These constructs are going to break down as we approach the frontier for abundance because humanity is going to demand it. It’s like you and Me, if we were Indian and we were in India when the British were controlling it, we would not be able to see what was about to happen and how the numbers were going to rise up and say, no, we’re not going to take that world anymore.

And they overthrew the British, but they actually did it via non violent ways. And humanity is going to demand abundance because what’s happening, this exponential curve is we are going to glimpse it more and more. And honestly, if you tune into the stories of how that’s, how that’s manifesting right now, you’ll be a lot more optimistic. But I’m not going to shy away from the things that you’re saying in terms of we can’t, not when we’re seeing 94% of the kids having mental health issues. Well, you know why they’re having mental health issues. I mean there’s numerous reasons.

One is like everything has gotten way more expensive because of, you know, again, capitalism cuts both ways. So a lot of parents are just trying to make ends meet. We have a tremendous amount of suffering because people are constantly in this fear state. So even though we’re the most connected we’ve ever been, there’s, you know, via the Internet, there’s a lot of people who are just stuck in an algorithmic program constantly in this state of fear and we’ve got to break out of that like neo. But it’s not even just fear. It’s the constant state of being stressed out because they have to work.

It’s probably a combination of fear and not having any leisure time. And that’s what abundance is going to change. Yeah, it’s going to change it. Well, if we solve energy, it changes everything. Just a quick break from the program. I need to share with you an urgent manner about scam gold IRAs and the important need to make sure that you’re working with a trusted company in the precious metals space. I have had hundreds of people come to me now where they have lost 50, 60, 70% of their life savings in these scam gold IRAs. We are having nearly 100% success rate getting their money back.

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But yeah, I don’t think solar, I mean when you have plasma sitting there, I’m not, I, I just disagree. I think the solar is another power grab by people and it’s a very dirty process and maybe they can solve that and maybe solar is in a wonderful way to get energy but it’s not anywhere near as reliable as plasma. I mean it’s just not. I mean I’m in Minnesota, it’s just in the winter months and we have solar panels on our roof. Right. I was one of the ones that didn’t first to do that but it’s still nowhere near as reliable and I use solar for so many different things.

But plasma, I mean I, I’m telling you that, I mean you could have endless batteries on a satellite in space that is going to go on forever. I mean it’s just, it’s incredible. Although you could probably do solar endlessly. I think there’s going to be, but there’s going to be lots of solutions that come along like AI is going to get to the point where we can do novel science with it. That’s what, that’s cool. That’s how Dimas Sibbis talks about, you know Dimas Sibis charge of everything AI at Google and he talks about the way he defines AGI is that once AI can do novel science and so there’s going to be.

You’re probably familiar with Google DeepMind, right? And how. Well I think okay, I’m in a lawsuit against Google in the federal government. I’m one of the leading landmark cases in the country and so I got to do full disclosure. There’s at this. So I’m not a fan of Google but I kind of like Google Gemini. It’s weirdly better in some of the things that I’m. Are you, are you a fan of Google DeepMind alphafold? Do you know what alphafold is? Tell me what it is. I probably have researched but I, I stayed away from Google in general because I’m not a big fan of what they do.

You remember when DeepMind beat the leading Go player in the world with AlphaGo? Like remember how Watson beat the Gary Casper Alban chess and then well so Google DeepMind which Dimas Sivas co founded and Mustafa Sulaiman was other co founder who’s now head of everything AI at Microsoft came out with AlphaFold a few years ago which solves the protein folding problem, which are the building blocks of life. And once you solve that problem. And he got the Nobel Prize for this. Yeah. They’re not looking at frequency, which is just mind blowing. And they suppress that. Okay, go ahead.

So, so, so now you can create an unlimited amount of medicines to target all disease. So we’re going to solve probably all disease in the next. No, no, no. Because they’re still looking at medicines. Okay, I’m going to push back again too. This is great though, conversation. I hope you’re done. They’re not looking at frequency. Frequency. We’re all made out of frequency and we can deal. And so we, and, and there’s science, there’s quantum medicine, there’s all this stuff that’s the future of medicine. They’re looking at how do we dissect so that we can make a freaking fortune solving every disease with pharmaceutical drugs.

And I’m like, they’re missing the boat on how we can be this perfect species looking at frequency. The problem is there isn’t as much money in that, that arena. So I think their whole paradigm is screwed up. Okay. And that’s because they can’t get past their paradigm of making money. And they, if they get to the frequency part and they start seeing that, then the whole world changes. But okay, beyond that, Google and all these tech companies, for them to be leading this, we really need to get to, to look at some of the, the evil stuff that they do and say, okay, you’re fine to be leading in some of this, but you got to stop behaving that way.

Because if you behave this way, that puts way too much risk on the, on humanity to have this kind of power in your hands. You might be a great scientist. Yeah. You’re co. The people funding you are doing some horrible things to humanity. And if until that doesn’t stop, until that stops, we are dealing with. You’re too much risk for us. That’s where I’m at. I mean, you know, I’m not sure specifically what you’re talking about in terms of the horrible things they’re doing, but that’s what you gotta learn. See, people like you, who have the money, who have the resources, you gotta start learning what these people are doing and looking at it for real.

Look at all the whistleblowers coming out on what they can do with mind control and MKR and DARPA’s N3 program. Look at this stuff. What are they doing with it? Who has this in their hands? And until we deal with that, that’s too much risk. And Google, Google’s a monopoly on every fricking continent on this planet. Now they might have only 80% in the United States, maybe more, but they have 100% in other countries. And they’re using it to control the narrative and to control the way people think so that they get their political people in office so they can make money and control everything.

Until that changes, these people shouldn’t. They don’t. They haven’t earned the right to have that much power over humanity. And until people step up and say, no, you don’t behave good enough to have to have this kind of power. Until that happens, we’re stupid and we’re controlled. And people who have more intelligence and resources and people like you who have the ability to understand it, we need you to step up and go, this is real. What am I missing here? I’m not seeing all this other aspects that’s happening. I need to understand the dark side. The dark side sucks.

It’s not where I want to go. I want abundance. So I only want to think about abundance. But until I focus on this, what the reality of the dark side is, we can’t afford this power in these hands. My entire book is looking at being a dank. The problems we have. And, and basically it concludes. But I’m saying you’re not going far enough with your problems because your mind is in this. Because you’re, you’re such a positive, amazing person. And so you’re, you’re the worst. Your biggest fault is your biggest. As I’ve always learned in leadership is.

Your biggest fault is your biggest positive. Right? And because my book covers all the, all the big problems, I mean it doesn’t, it misses these, it misses it because you won’t focus on it. You’re missing it. You’re missing a lot of these issues because they’re so dark that your mind doesn’t go there. That’s the, that’s why they hire past criminals to do be hackers. Because good people can’t think like hackers. They can’t. It’s too hard because good people can’t think that way. It’s just like I can’t think that way. This is horrible. I’m not gonna. You just.

Your mind won’t go there. You’re. You have all these people protective mechanisms. So really good people can’t think like this. And then when you see it, you’re horrified. It’s almost traumatic. But unless we go there mentally, especially the people that have the abilities to think like that, and who are on the forefront of this, like you and so many. Elon Musk and some of these. I don’t know, maybe he’s a bad guy, but maybe he’s a good guy. I don’t know. But until we get to the point where these people who have the ability to think like this understand it, then we’re screwed.

And I’m telling you, there’s. Until you understand what this. The negative. What they can do, we are sitting ducks. We’re like sheep walking into a slaughter. And what do you think? Because. Because, I mean, I agree that like. Like in terms of, for example, if I’m a media company or I’m a social media company, I want to keep you locked in, to just keep clicking on ads and keep you subscribing. Right. And so I’m going to hijack your amygdala. I wouldn’t do that. But that’s what a lot of them do algorithmically. But what do you think their goal is by engaging in that type of level of deception? Like they want to rule the world to.

I think it’s for control, and I think they use control to. I don’t. I think there’s a lot of them are psychopaths, so they just want control. And, you know, one out of 20 people are psychopaths. And psychopaths have an easier route to power because they don’t care what they do. And they’re very good at conning people. And so the. So I’m 100% with you on where we need to go. Right? I do this Sunday night Thrive hour to enrich our souls. What human potential is. Right. I have to do this. And. But at the same time, unless we look at the dark, unless we face the dark.

And so what can they do? You can plant false memories once you hijack the amygdala. You can erase memories once you hijack the amygdala. You can control society at levels people have no. I mean, they can’t even imagine. They’ve done studies where they have hijacked the amygdala on like a thousand people and, and have implanted false memory. But, I mean, don’t you think that’s happening all the time through, via the media and social media algorithms? Right. So we have to deal with. We need to fix that, right? Yeah, absolutely. But we have to deal with those type of people being in power and having control of this kind of.

So the beautiful thing about capitalism is that the barrier to creativity is being shattered, because now people have superpowers. They’ve never had before. Open source is going to ultimately win the AI battle in the long term. And long term is not that long, like five to seven years. And that means that we’re going to have a small business boom. And all of these opportunities are being created. I had on my podcast, the most recent episode was with Ross Berdorf. He’s created a company called Zen Business, which competes with LegalZoom. It’s already worth 1.7 billion. He is seeing a small business boom that he has never seen before because of AI.

And so all the things you’re talking about are entrepreneurial opportunities. Like they’re, yeah, but you got to look at it from the other perspective of these opportunities exist for people like me and you and our kids, because my kids are doing very well too. And they exist for people who are affluent. But when you have a lot of people suffering and you have AI replacing 60 to 70% of all jobs in the near future, and then you’re going to give them a basic, universal basic income because they won’t even be able to eat. And I mean, we’re dealing with, I mean, I don’t agree with that narrative like bcg.

Okay, well, that’s good. BCG has came out with a report that’s showing that yes, there’s going to be job replacement, but we’re going to have way net positive number of jobs over the next five years. I completely agree with that. I hope you’re right because that’s a really good. These are types of things that covering the super effective signal. Right. I mean, because, because it’s, again, if I’m a media company, my algorithms are going to promote the latest layoff stories and try to get you to think like that’s the, that’s the story. And that’s not the only story.

It’s not the only story, but people are really having a hard time getting jobs. Well, I, I, I hope you’re right and I hope that’s how it builds because that’s, that’s phenomenal. I do think there’s a potential for that. But, and let’s talk broadly too, because AI is like electricity. So if I was a plumber, for example, I’ve got a plumbing business. I don’t have a plumbing business. But if I did, I would be obsessively using AI. Now, how would I use it? I would use it for my campaign creation. I would use it to identify different sectors of neighborhoods I want to target with offers.

I would use it to train all of my plumbers. I could go to ChatGPT or Gemini or Claude today and I could say, build me a five week course that teaches me how to be the best plumber in the world. I agree with you. Right. It balances out. My mom just died of cancer and she, and they treated her awful. She got no care whatsoever. And I said like, I had to get her oxygen, I had to get her, I had to get her injection. Yeah. I hired Macus to help me out in a functional, functional medicine doctor.

But I had a lot of work to get to that point because my family believed the industry and the oncologists knew what they were doing. So man was at a high. And by the time we had everything in place happened with my mom. They missed that. Already dead. Yeah, she. And then it went stage four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. But it was super fast. And I said that if I just hired the garbage man and gave them AI they’d be better at it than any of these clowns who went to school for 10 years. And there’s a lot of research showing that that’s true.

And there’s a lot of research showing that doctors that are using AI are like so much more effective at diagnosing. And I actually think that I personally would not go to a doctor now unless they are also using AI in their job. Like I want both the human and the machine opinion because all of humanity’s content I would agree with that is in these systems. I mean like 100% agree with. The ability to put pattern recognition together and diagnose is like unprecedented right now. Which is super exciting. But yeah, if you go to old school doctor and they’re like, oh, I wouldn’t use that.

It hallucinates and stuff. Yes, that is true in some cases, but there are very easy ways to correct. But we’re in the very edge of this though, right? I mean we are just at the beginning of it because it is. But maybe, maybe I mean I see a glimpse of hope on this and I do think we could go there. But I’m going to still stay with until we get the evil bastards who are doing some of this stuff out of our way. I, I think we’re, we’re at a scary tightrope. I think to thread this together.

Like my. The. What I discuss in, in the book, in the Love Conquers Here book is that I am not worried about the Terminator of the Matrix scenario, right. These sci fi movies that have been grafted in the human collective psyche where it’s like machines are going to destroy us. I’m worried about us destroying us. And one of the, one of the, the things that we haven’t discussed that’s really scary, like really real and very scary is do you know how many nuclear weapons there are in the world today? This is in the book. Yeah, I think, yeah, there’s 13,000.

Okay. I think tactical nukes are very scary. Okay, but how many of those do you think it would take to destroy almost all of humanity and send the world into a nuclear winter for a decade? What percent of the 13,000? Probably less than 1.01%. I mean, it’s 2%. Okay? And if you and I were just visiting Earth and we knew nothing about humanity, right? We’re just like looking at it objectively and trying to study us, we would say, huh, they have 50 times the amount they need and they’re making more right now. They’re stupid. And then you know what, you know what we had asked, we’d be like, well, what does humanity call that? Do you know what humanity calls this? There’s a term, what it’s Mutually Assured Destruction.

What’s the acronym for that? Mad. Yeah, it is. We have an insanity, and that’s why the heart has to conquer the head. Okay, but let me ask you, what do you think of the theory of. Of. I had Larry Hancock on that, that analyzed all the you. The alien files from the Air Force and they whittled it down to like 1200. That were. They think were. They can’t. They think we’re from, you know, you know, not of human origin and they tracked what they were actually doing and they were looking at our nuclear programs and there is evidence to show that maybe they were shutting us down and not allowing.

That’s been reported for sure. That was. CIA disclosed that that actually happened now, now what do you think of that? I mean, that’s kind of cool, I think. I think it’s really cool. Somebody smarter than us can save us. Actually, we shouldn’t go by that. But this is a print proof of the book, so it’s not. Doesn’t look as good as the hardcover because I used it for errors. But look at the COVID right? The COVID is this rising phoenix, this cosmic phoenix, right? Humanity rising. And it’s symbolic of the help we’re getting from the Divine from all types of things that we can’t quote, unquote.

See? And so my theory on UAPs, for what it’s worth, is that if they have conquered faster and light speed or interdimensional travel, then they must be here for benevolent reasons. Because they would have, if they didn’t allow love to conquer their own fear, they would have used weapons of that power against themselves and they would have been wiped out. And if they were here for malevolent reasons and they knew how to travel faster in light speed or interdimensionally, then they could vaporize you and me faster. And I can complete this sentence the whole planet, right? Because.

Oh yeah. I mean, if they have that tech, they could do whatever, right? So I actually, it’s actually like, I agree with you there, there is hope in terms of like, they’re not going to let us destroy ourselves with nuclear weapons. They’ve already proven that. Now are those UAPs? Are those angelic beings? I don’t know, like nobody knows today. But I think it’s fascinating that we know from CIA disclosure that, that, and it was also on the Russian side that something appeared, you know, shimmers in the sky, made it where they could not fire the nuclear weapons.

I had, I had Dr. Malmgren. Pippa. Dr. Pippa, if you know her, on my podcast. And her, her father was in the room during the Cuban Missile crisis where literally people are calling in the room to their spouses saying start driving to Maine, like shit’s about to go down. It ended in hugs. Right? But she, her father, before he passed away, disclosed in the existence of UAPs. There’s more and more disclosure coming out and look, we need help from all the areas we’re going to get it, but I do think that, that the divine is helping awaken us right now to allow us to meet this moment.

I think there’s a consciousness awakening going on, going on right now to awaken us so that we don’t extinct ourselves. And we have to raise our vibratory consciousness. You talk about vibrations. We have to, you know, manifest our better angels here. We have had a rise of the rational mind in science, which has been really great in many ways. But to your point, we should not propagate damage among ourselves through opioids, through all of this constant, you know, programming. There’s so many ways. Well, and, and there’s a lot of things going on that is hyper suppressed and, and I really challeng scientists and the engineers out there and the entrepreneurs and the people within the wherewithal to understand it, to understand what we’re facing so that we can keep developing this abundance while curbing and doing things to put in place the stopping the negative.

I think we can identify who’s moving into being as a child, who’s moving into being more of a psychopathic mind. And we can, we can heal them as a child so that we don’t, we develop people who don’t aren’t psychopaths when they’re older. I think that’s a solution to the problem is healing the children so they don’t develop into psychopaths in the first place. Yeah, I think there’s a lot of promise. Well, there’s a lot of promise through brain computer interfaces. I mean, I do agree with Elon Musk that, that we’re going to cure blindness. Like these are just input mechanisms.

We’re curing Parabola that way. Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s really amazing what’s going on in that area. And we’re going to be able to decode not just more and more of our reality, but more and more of how to solve brain issues. And so, yeah, I would agree with you. I mean if we could identify if someone’s going to be on that kind of negative trajectory, which is really scary early, and heal them. Nobody wants to go through that. I think, I mean we could solve our prison problem. We could, I mean, think of the amount of problems we could solve by just dealing with that in the young.

Yeah, that’s true. I mean we so many, we wouldn’t have the fentanyl issue because we wouldn’t have people just, I mean, so many of these issues. I mean, I don’t even think. Yeah, it would really bring world peace if we dealt with the psychopath issue. I mean, I think children. Yeah, I mean, I think we need to tackle problems in parallel. And the fentanyl issue again came from that pharmaceutical complex and the constant pushing that and all the incentives. And we know all that because of what happened with the Sacklers. Right. That’s all publicly disclosed now.

Although Johnson and Johnson was a larger percentage of that industry and they’ve been immune to it and suppress. And everybody thinks they’re baby pop powder and. Great. And they were much larger than the Sacklers. Well, we, we’ve got to solve those problems. I mean, we’ve gotta, we’ve gotta look at things clear eyed and that’s right, that’s all I’m saying. This whole thing. Yeah, yeah. And I, you know, I, I, I really think I am doing that with the book. I mean, you should read it. I should. Well, you’re such a good person, you guys, and I’m gonna apologize and thank you for being a good sport during this because these are the kinds of conversations we have to have.

I mean, these conversations help me and my audience, too. I mean, because you have to kind of take. I’m invited to do a debate where I’m going to take on free speech and they’re going to take the opposite side as me, and we’re just going to. I’m like, okay, I’m probably going to agree with some of the things he says, and he’s probably going to agree with me, but we’re going to have to look at it and debate it so that we can learn and get through some of this. And I’m like, okay, let’s do it.

Yeah. And unless we have these conversations, we’re not going to get it. I mean, we’re going to just keep suffering. Yeah. I mean, the world changes through brave actions. And brave actions means not shying away from conflict and, you know, being willing to have the conversations. And, you know, I’ve been an entrepreneur for a long time, and one of the things I had to learn early on as an entrepreneur is I was very confrontation avoiding. You know, this is back when I was like 26 years old. You’re a good person. I had to, I had to learn how to lean into that because, you know, when you’re the CEO, you’ve got to make sure you’ve got the best people on the team.

And if you’re not giving them honest feedback, you’re not going to. You’re not going to have the best people on the team. You’re not going to. And you’re not going to. You’re not going to be able to improve. Well, you also, all the issues come to you and you have to deal with the conflicts nonstop. It’s like, I don’t want to deal with this. And like, your team gives you the stuff that they can’t deal with. So there you go. Oh, Mr. CEO. Yeah. But I’ve loved my career, as hard as some of the tough times have been, and I’ve gone through all types of things and the financial recession of 2008, 2009, et cetera.

But it’s such a wonderful thing to build a company from scratch with amazing people and be able to hire the people that truly have that heart and soul and create an operating system in the culture that brings out the best in everybody. It. There’s. It’s like nothing else in the world in terms of career. So, okay, so where can people follow you? Get your book and. Sure. Yeah, so love. Conquersphere.org has the podcast the Book. I also wrote a science fiction novella that covers the years 2030 through 2085. It has some really fun stuff in there about the nature of consciousness, brain computer interfaces, UAPs, you name it.

And it’s a very positive sci fi vision versus all the dystopian sci fi. So that’s also on the website. And the book, Love Conquers Fear, Humanity, AI and the Age of Abundance for all, it’s the best book I’ve ever written. It’s my third book and it comes out on June 23rd in honor of the solstice where the light overcomes the dark. Well, that’s excellent. Thank you so much. And being a good sport during this conversation, I really appreciate it. I think people got a lot out of this. So this was fun. I mean, honestly, it was fun.

Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much.
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