City of London vs the Technocrats

➡ The text discusses a shift in the economic system, with two factions vying for control. One faction wants to maintain the old system while upgrading it to a digital format, while the other also wants a digital system but in a different way. The conversation also touches on the importance of investing in silver due to its potential future value. The speaker also warns about scams in the market and emphasizes the importance of buying from trustworthy companies.
➡ The speaker discusses his long-standing involvement in financial markets and geopolitics, particularly focusing on shadow banking networks. He mentions his collaboration with Barbara and Susan from Promethean Action, who provide historical and political perspectives. The speaker expresses concern about the shift from a blackmail system to a surveillance state, emphasizing the need to control both. He also mentions the importance of practical election politics and the potential threat of China. The speaker concludes by expressing concern about the public perception of Trump’s alignment with the Epstein class due to the surveillance state’s actions.
➡ The speaker discusses the current political climate, highlighting the Democrats’ confused messaging and the Republicans’ leverage. They mention the gridlock in the Senate due to Mitch McConnell’s absence and the potential for his staffers to continue running his seat. The speaker also discusses the weaponization of government and industries, and the internal conflict within Google. Lastly, they touch on the changing global economy and the shift from an offshore dollar system to a stablecoin system, emphasizing the difference between stable coins and central bank digital currencies.
➡ The text discusses the current economic situation, highlighting the growing debt levels and the fragility of banks. It suggests that in times of uncertainty, people turn to tangible assets like gold and silver. The text also discusses the differences between the old Federal Reserve System and the new system involving stable coins backed by US Treasuries. It warns about the potential dangers of the European model, where there are no property rights under a digital euro, and emphasizes the importance of understanding and scrutinizing these systems before adopting them.
➡ The text discusses the complex political dynamics involving figures like Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, and entities like the Federal Reserve and the Middle East. It suggests that these figures and entities are not perfect, but they are constants in a system that is often weaponized and manipulated. The text also explores the idea of disempowering hardliners to avoid global conflict, and the need to shift the world’s economic center from Europe and the Middle East to North and South America. Lastly, it questions why these strategies aren’t more openly communicated.
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We are breaking the Fed’s monopoly over the ability, over their issuance of the new monetary units. That’s a fundamental change. Now, if you look at what we’re trying to do and you dispassionately, don’t, don’t, don’t borrow trouble from the future. In this case, focus on this first so that you can understand this before you start borrowing trouble from the future and then compare it to what you’re seeing out of the ecu. That makes sense. Foreign. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing. And please subscribe below and think about joining my substack at Sarah Westall substack.com or my newsletter.

You can sign up for that as well@Sarah Westall.com and remember to give a thumbs up and to subscribe on the platform that you’re watching. Welcome to Business Game Changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have Tom Luongo coming to the program. We’re doing it early. We usually do our economic review on Fridays, but this is coming out early because the Fourth of July, nobody’s going to be watching on Friday night. So let’s get this thing out early. And then we’re doing that. And I had Andy, you know, I always have Andy Schectman on twice, twice a month, every other Friday.

And he’s been telling me I got to have him on because he sees things from a different perspective. And so I wanted to have him on to hear his perspective. He’s kind of like Promethean action group, but he’s going to go into why he thinks this way and how much of a mess we are really in, who we’re fighting, what’s happening. I am not convinced as we go through this, I’m not convinced. I, I see that there’s factions. I’m just not sure if the very, very, very top is, is the same people. And I should have said that during the show.

I, I didn’t say that. That’s one thing I want to investigate a little more. Is the very top the same people while they’re taking out one side and letting all the factions fight? That could very well be. But regardless, there are clearly two different factions and we’re going to walk through that and, and there’s a new economic system that’s in play. One wants to keep the old system and, and migrate it, upgrade it, and the other one to upgrade it. They both want digital in the end. One wants a completely, you know, central bank digital currency.

The other one maybe wants to go there too, but in a different way and but they are looking. They want to get rid of this group. Who’s the blackmail group. I’ve been saying this forever. The old city of London, the central bankers and then we have the new guard and we’re going to talk of what is this new guard which Trump represents and what does all that mean? These are conversations that few people are really looking at from a big perspective. I have many of these behind the scenes. I just had somebody the last week say ah it finally may help me click everything that place in and understanding what’s really happening and not that I completely get it because it’s just a mess right? We’re watching the psyop mess.

Plus how sick are you with politics? We’re all completely sick of it because it’s just, it’s. We’re tired of it and we just want things to be normal. We don’t want bad guys running things. But sad part is we’ve had criminal enterprises running things for so long that in order to take down criminal enterprises it’s not going to be pretty. And the money and the resources they have to fight the scops is over the top and it’s confusing. That was my fifth generation warfare. I did that three years ago and I said this is coming, we’re in it now.

I, I had this intense need to, to do that and to just this is what’s happening and we’re in the middle of it right now. It’s just complete psy up garbage and we’re dealing with it and trying to make sense of it. I like you have shut down a bit and not wanting to talk about all this all the time that thus I have thrive hour now where I talk about the future of humanity and solutions and so many amazing things. You gotta tune into those because those are fun. But this is important too and before we get into this I want to remind you that silver.

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A lot of people I know now are selling Their buy from a company you can trust. Now, after we’ve been, you know, saying that because so many scams have been going on, the companies that are scamming you are using that in their marketing. Buy from a company you can trust. And we know that they’re the ones scamming people. So know that the company Miles Franklin that I’ve been working with has, have helped hundreds of people get their life savings back from these scams. And a company that does that you can trust. And the other thing is they don’t charge you higher premiums than a sophisticated buyer would be paying.

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It fluctuates all the time. They. It’s not public. So you can go to sarah westall.com Miles Franklin get a copy of their private price list. You can see what silver is today, you can see what gold is today. And get that price list and talk to them and you will be treated with respect. Okay. Again, Sir Wessel.com Miles Franklin let’s get into this conversation with Tom Luongo. We go into different territory. He’s a fun character. Tom Luongo. Hi, Tom. Welcome to the show. Hi, Sarah. Sorry that, you know, we had a little scheduling snafu. That’s all on me.

I’m, I’m a, I’m a terrible. I’m terrible when it comes to. That’s okay. Nobody knows but us, but that’s okay. Thanks for saying it publicly. I, I always, I always, I always own up to my mistakes. Love it. I too. It’s just, it’s just the, it’s part of the brand. Even when I’m like, even when I’m right, I have to, like, say I’m wrong. So there it is. No, that’s good. That’s good to be authentic. Well, okay. I’m like, you know, you, you have this the first time you’re on my show. Andy Schectman keeps telling me I need to interview you because you have a different perspective.

You know, I have Andy on every two weeks and we do an economic review together and, and then I bring on different voices in the economic space every other week and you just think different. Okay. And so I, I really wanted to get you on. So I was looking and I found you and I’m like, oh cool. And people will happen is people said, sarah, you need to get them on. And I’m like, yeah, I do. And then they, they connected us and then you reach out to me and I’m like, oh great, this is going to be a lot easier.

And then, so we got connected an X and then you were ghost. Unsubscribed people. You were being unsubscribed to me without he were being unsubscribe. How many people. Like I was saying, how many people give a crap and spend time unsubscribing? No, A. Come on. Most people don’t sit there and unsubscribe, but. So I don’t believe it. But regardless, I’m glad you’re on. And then I realized you’re in this like this high profile argument with Michael Young and Mike Adams and I am not interviewing you because of that. I am interviewing you because I genuinely want to hear your perspective because it’s different than a lot of other people.

While I might. I don’t even know if I agree with you or not because I want to hear what you have to say and if people don’t agree with you, that’s fine. But it’s a genuinely different way of thinking about stuff. You seem to be a little bit more in line with the Promethean Action group a little bit on how they are viewing things. And I think that’s interesting because at this point the media is so one sided that I start to wonder when things are so one sided, if it’s just a psyop or it’s mostly a psyop.

Well, what I’ll say is this. You know, it’s funny the. We like to call them the. Our. The like the GG grannies actually the Barbara and Susan over at Promethean Action. When they hit the scene, everybody’s like Tom. I’m like, yeah, and they’re both lovely women and I’ve met them both, you know, online and. But what I’ll say is the following. I was already mostly there anyway as far as the plumbing and the way everything works in terms of the shadow banking networks and all that. Stuff I’ve come at this from, you know, the, the deep, a deeper dive into the financial markets and the way they work because I’ve been a gold bug and a, and a guy and I’ve been in the space, you know, my head space for 25 years as a political, as a public commentator and as a professional.

Been doing it for about 13. I started working for Newsmax writing a financial newsletter about 13 years ago and I still do. I wrote a different letter for them now along with what we do at Gold, Goats and Guns and it’s very similar stuff. So, you know, my friend Alex Grainer and I had already, you know, kind of popularized as best as possible the idea of, you know, all roads lead to London. And we’ve been talking geopolitics from that perspective for a long, long time. So when, when Barbara and Susan hit the scene, it was a natural fit to.

Because they have a much more, they have a good historical perspective on this. They’ve been doing it. They have practical politics perspective as well. So they understand the down and dirty politics of all of these things. And so it is, it winds up being a natural fit. Was interesting when I first met Susan Kokinda in a four way chat. I think it was either like crypto ridge with Alex and I said we’re going to have a little bit of a problem about the Federal Reserve because I identified very early on in this process that we couldn’t get to where we are today with the Trump administration trying to shift us away from Keynesian economics to a kind of Hamiltonian system of national production which they advocate for, which I was not a fan of.

I didn’t, hadn’t even to be convinced of this when this started. But I noted early on that the Fed started tightening back in 2021 trying to fix the ridiculous inflation from COVID Right. So Covid was the excuse for the big print. And I took a different view on Jerome Powell at the Fed and said Powell was forced into this because of every other circumstance. Trump was forced, he thought he was forced politically to pass the CARES act to keep the economy from imploding, right? And then that forced Powell back to the zero bound and expanding the balance sheet again and all this stuff.

But it was in the middle of 2021, after the election was over, they got Biden installed and at that point I started watching what Powell was doing and he was starting to really challenge the orthodoxy from the ecb, from the bank of England and whatnot about, you know, global printing for climate change, right. Monetary policy subordinated to climate change. He’s like, no, I have a dual mandate, full employment and stable prices. That’s his way of saying not going to do that. Yeah, yeah. Christine Lagarde lost her mind, right? And, and he started, he started stealth tightening before he actually started raising interest rates.

He started tightening inside the, the offshore dollar markets and the plumbing of the market in the repo markets basically. And you know, at that point I was a doctrinaire Austrian, like, you know, like really literally. And, but at that, by that point there were enough pieces to the puzzle when it all, when that happened and I put it all together and it kind of hit me like a, I literally like like the seventh act of an episode of House. Right? Oh, I know what it is now. And it hit me literally like that you started figuring out what they were doing.

Now the one thing that I don’t, that’s where we were. I don’t appreciate with the Promethean action. I like, I really like them. I had Steger on my speaker. He’s. They’re, they’re really, I love them because they’re looking at it from a very specific fact based standpoint. And I can’t argue with anything he was telling me and what they were saying. But what they don’t address is the, the surveillance state. You know, they don’t look at, that is an issue. And I don’t, I, we have to look at. I think that this is how I’ve been seeing it.

We have to have to get under control. The old system that is based on, it’s a blackmail system that is ugly and out of control. It needs to be, it needs to be fixed. Now this new one that’s coming in, they don’t, they don’t like the political class. They don’t like it. But now they are taking these guys down, which is good, but they’re putting in place a surveillance state which is replacing the black blackmail state. So instead of blackmail they’re putting in a more efficient situation which is a surveillance potentially, potentially, potentially. Now I agree with them and side with them on, on dealing with this other side.

But at the same standpoint we need to support them on taking the, the blackmail state down, but we also need to stop them in setting up a hardcore surveillance anti freedom state. That I agree. Yeah, no, I agree. And, and for, for, for, for the Promethean action group. What I’ll say is this, knowing having spent hours talking to Susan and less time talking to Barbara but more time talking to Susan, that they’re very, very focused on we lose the midterms, it doesn’t matter. Okay. So they’re, remember, their focus is practical election politics. They’re very practical, which I love.

They’re very practical about this and they’re upfront about this. We are here to create talking points and move the needle to get voters to the polls to do the right thing. My partner in crime over at, over at Gold, Goats and Guns, Dexter White is another one who’s always looking over the horizon. Right. So as I’m like trying to fight the, trying to like, describe the bat, our battle between us, the United States and city of London, what I would call Davos, the old colonial families of Europe for he’s looking at China, right. And he’s looking at China on the, as the real problem over the horizon.

We, of course, have the surveillance problem state the entire time. But there’s other things, there are other countervailing arguments that go into this. And I don’t, I know, I know. I have a lot of ideas about some of the stuff that are nascent that we haven’t had a chance to really, that he and I and, and people in the group haven’t really had a chance to like, gestate and then talk about, haven’t written issues of the newsletter on yet. But we’re, but it’s definitely on our, our agenda to cover before the end of the year because I don’t, I don’t see that as the fight in front of us right now, especially after like the anchor baby decision from the Supreme Court yesterday.

It’s like it doesn’t matter at this point. Like, if we don’t fix some of these other things, then they’re going to run the table on us anyway and it’s going to go to kinetic civil war and which I think it might anyways. I think we’re going to, I. They’re backing Trump into that corner. They’re what? They’re, They’ve been obviously backing Trump into the corner of your. We want you to become Lincoln and then we want to hang you on the of you becoming Lincoln. And, and I’m here to remind him that, remind them all that Lincoln won the Civil War when he wasn’t supposed to.

Well, I think the momentum is going in that direction regardless. The problem is, is that people don’t, don’t support the black male state. Right. We don’t support you. We don’t support. What they’re doing is they’re taking Trump down because of the surveillance state, which is an issue. Right. And so I See, the practical thing of, well, we have to align with them to take down this blackmail, but what about this technocracy? And so what. What’s happening is they’re using his Achilles heel, which is that, to take him down and not let him fight the blackmail state and the Epstein class and all that stuff.

Now, now it looks like in the public that he is supporting the Epstein class because of the way that he has presented himself. And it looks like they are the ones fighting it. If you look at. I’m not saying it’s all real. I’m just saying. No, it’s not. It’s not. That’s what we need the ways. If you look at Congress, the Democrats had all the Epstein survivors sitting there and not a single Republican showed up. And so from an optic standpoint, it looks like the Democrats are way better at this point because of that. And I don’t think that they’re.

Now, maybe I’m all wrong, but I don’t think they’re fighting this properly. I think from an optics standpoint, they’re getting their ass kicked. That. No, you’re not. And by the way, you can. When I go on someone’s show the first time, I always ask the question, which I forgot to do before we started, like, so what’s the. What’s the language rule? How NSFW can I get? Because if you’ve ever watched me on a podcast, you know that I can, I can swear with the best sailors who’ve ever, like, circumnavigated. So if it was up to my husband, I wouldn’t even say the word S H I T.

He’s like really good for me. But you notice I just said it. So I’ll just keep it clean. It’s good. It’s all good. If we can, we should keep it clean because it’s the right thing to do. But I’m not. I am not the cleanest sometimes if it slips out, it’s okay. But let’s try to be clean. Yeah, no, I’ll hold my tongue on that one. So I know how to do it. It’s possible, contrary to popular opinion. So what I’ll say is this. They are. Their messaging has been confused. I’m not going to argue that.

But what. I’m just going to go there. They’re screwing up. Their, Their best messaging people are the Promethean Action Group. I’m like, oh my God, these should be your marketeers because you’re really screwing it up. No, no, no, no argument on that one. And. But at the same time, what I’ll say is this. I also know that you can tell that Trump has them over a barrel. He’s going, he’s still using the Epstein, he’s still using this up in the Epstein files to try and get leverage here and there. And of course, they’re getting. When I say they, I’m talking about people like John Thune and the staffers and everything else.

We have a GR up on Capitol Hill that they can’t get through because the people who are, the people who are fighting him the hardest are had no, he has no leverage over either they’re not up for re election or whatever it is. And we’re talking about the Murkowskis, the sins right now. And then you have McConnell. And this is, the McConnell situation is actually potentially so bad. But yeah, but this is, he kind of created it because he supported him in that one election. He probably did some deal behind the scenes support it now. Now he.

But you have to. I get it. Here’s the thing. Here’s the thing. We have fundamental gridlock in the senate because Mitch McConnell’s been a vegetable for about four months, the same way that Dianne Feinstein was. And now he’s probably dead. They’re finally, I think, admitting the fact that he’s dead, but his staffers are the ones running his seat. And he’s the chair of three of the most important committees in the Congress. And the most important one, of course, is the Rules Committee. And that’s what they’re using as leverage to stop cold everything in the Senate. Once McConnell has, once they finally have to admit the fact that McConnell’s gone and his staffers are not running his seat anymore, which is exactly what’s been going on.

Same thing with Feinstein for years. Same thing with. They need to get another person in that’s clean before this election happens, but keep going. And that’s why they’ve been trying to keep, they’re trying to keep Mitch alive, Weekend at Bernie style for as long as possible so that they can’t go to a special election as quickly as possible because they want to run out the rest of this legislative session. Because in Kentucky it is, it’s absolutely criminal. They don’t care. They just don’t care. They’ll get anything. Yes, they are in burn it, the down mode. That’s where they’re in.

They’re in full joker mode. Like, I can, I can show you, like everything I saw this week. Forget the capital markets or any of the other stuff, just the Political wrangling. Just the political optics this week of like Gavin Newsom raising gas taxes in California at this moment in time because gas prices are coming down even though he shut down through environmental, through ridiculous environmental regulations, most of the refineries in California and we’re importing JP4 jet fuel and diesel fuel from South Korea who don’t have enough of either of those things to run their own economy.

And then they’re having to bring it in to California from South Korea and other places that are already net energy importers. They did this on purpose. This is the way the system operates. It’s beyond just the blackmail state. It is at a certain level also the logistics state. My friend Blaine Holton and I talk about this stuff all the time. We focus on, I’m on with Blaine. We talk about logistics. And the logistics are very important because the logistics tell you where you’re going to create pain points in the economy where you’re going to be able to leverage those pain points into political action.

They turn every, they weaponize everything. I mean, the point, the reason why we go, I talk about blackmail, the blackmail state is because it’s like the worst you can think of, right? Using, using kids. It just, it’s awful. Right? And if those people are willing to do that, they’re willing to weaponize anything. I mean, they’ve, they’ve turned weaponization. They have the weaponization of government right committee, which is really important actually to really dig into that and get that cleaned up and for people to understand just how much they’ve weaponized all these industries. I mean, my lawsuit against Google and the federal government is really to, it’s really a weaponization of government issue.

It really is. And for them to see how far, you know, the, the Google engineers are actually in full revolt again inside the full blown civil war going on inside Google. Because they’re seeing what is going on. They’re not okay with this crap. E and human beings. What we need is people inside who are decent people to see it, to learn to get as much information as you can and help us fight inside. Because I agree. Because it’s just not okay. It’s not. And the funny part about it is that is the funny part about all of this.

And I know that like I cross paths with you mentioned my fight with like Mike Adams and Michael Yan. I, I, I run across these people who, in who I’m like, we should be on the same side of all these issues. I’m coming at this from a different perspective. And the perspective is in order for us to fix those things that you just discussed, right. You have to first lay a foundation. This is why I like to look at capital markets first. And I’m being, again, my background in how I got into this position as a, as a, as who I am today.

Right. It started as, hey, I’m writing a financial newsletter about gold and commodities. And then eventually. Well, if you do gold and commodities, you’re doing geopolitics. If you’re doing geopolitics, you’re doing domestic politics. And so eventually, eventually you get into all of it. No, but the point being is that also over the course of time, you start to watch how you change the fundamental foundational layers of the global economy. Right? And if you see changes happening at that level, all the stuff up here is a. Is downstream of that. It’s like the classic. It’s like the classic extras pyramid, right.

Of the financial system. You have gold at the bottom, right? And then money supply and then derivatives up here. Well, I got news for you. The surveillance state runs on having a foundational system of financial plumbing that rewards building that system. So capital kills everything. Yeah, capital, right. And so focus on that. Watch that system being changed, and it is being foundationally changed, then there’s going to be ripple effects through all of these other systems. And so the concern is that it’s being changed to be a complete control structure. That’s the concern. Now, Mike Adams and I just want to say, you and him just disagree on economic theory and stuff.

I think that’s a fair game. And I think you guys should flush out more of that stuff. I think, you know, Mike, I do hundreds of podcasts on this, and I had flushed it out and I’m telling you, I know, and he had me on, and you could tell he was not like, I could tell what was going on in my book. The reality is that. No, no, what I’m getting at here is that I tried very assiduously for about an hour and a half to go through this stuff and go, look, there’s a fundamental difference between having a stable.

Moving us off from an offshore dollar system to a stablecoin system. Okay? There’s a fundamental difference between that, between stable coins and central bank digital currencies. There is a difference. There is a difference. Fundamental people are trying to make you think that it’s the same. And I tell people this isn’t necessarily the same, but you have to look at the individual algorithms and you’ve got to get underneath the hood. But if they’re not Going to allow us under the hood then. And this is. You can’t trust anything. The economy may feel strong on the surface, but the cracks are forming and they’re growing.

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That’s a different system than the old Federal Reserve System and the two channel monetary system where the money center banks sit in the middle and pull a vague off of all of it, which you can then insert the offshore dollar markets into. And we’re not all beholden to just the supply and demand for U.S. treasuries by foreign markets in order to be able to run our economy. That’s our old system. And we’re breaking the Fed’s monopoly over the ability over their issuance of the new monetary units. That’s a fundamental change. Now if you look at what we’re trying to do and you dispassionately don’t borrow trouble from the future, in this case, focus on this first so that you can understand this before you start borrowing trouble from the future and then compare it to what you’re seeing out of the ecu.

That makes sense. You don’t want to you don’t want to claim a problem without. But you do need to look under the hood to make sure. Yeah, you need to understand what we could be walking into. Of course, make sure that under the hood. But see, everything when it comes to, when it comes to systems and algorithms, everything is a black box. And that’s. Oh, I agree. But so, but just, I think this, you know, at a certain point you just kind of have to like, do the symbolic logic thing. Like this is what we’re doing over here.

Yes, it has these, it has these pros and as these con. We’ll deal with that in the. We’ll deal with that later. But then look at what we’re seeing from the ECB and the bank of England. Okay. And look at what they want to do. That’s the model they want to, they want to move us towards. And then if you, if you understand the, the fundamental differences between those two things, where there’s no property rights under a digital euro. Oh, you’re a complete slave at this point. Right. And as opposed to, and I got news for you, it’s sovereign ownership, right? It’s sovereign ownership versus one step away, where they take that.

Now they do this with the stock market, right. In 1973, where the. You don’t own the stocks, you just have right to this. It’s the same thing. You just have right to it, but you don’t own it versus having, having the direct sovereign ownership of it. Yeah, no, exactly. And, and so no matter what you may think or not think of the pros and cons of the stablecoin system that is being proposed and is being built is that at the end of the day, the dollars in your bank account you still have legal access to. You do.

And you also have the ability to dip in and out of that system if you so choose and still maintain some financial privacy if you want. Because we’re not saying you can’t use Bitcoin Rails or you can’t use cash, or you can’t use this or you can’t use that compared to what they’re trying to do in Europe. So what. What they’re doing in Europe is to take the existing system and codify it in a complete, kind of Terry Gilliam style, Brazil overarching complete state where if you step out of line at all, we can unperson you.

Okay. And they have complete control over the ability. Right. Because they. And I’ve been unpersoned. I get it. Oh, I know. Well, this means Christine Lagarde told everybody what they Wanted. She’s like, imagine a world where somebody chooses to eat pizza over broccoli. Yuck. We want to be able to tell them to eat if you’re fat, that you don’t get to eat pizza. Like, that’s literally not a direct quote, but effectively a quote from Christine Lagarde when explaining the benefits of the digital euro. And I’m like, you do realize that you’re talking to Americans when you say things like that Americans are not going to go, who the hell does she think she is that she can tell everybody what to do to the very basic level.

I mean, what the hell is wrong with somebody like that? What’s wrong with their mind? I mean, to me, that’s a, that’s a very dysfunctional psychotic person who thinks that’s okay. That’s. They are. And so when you compare and contrast those two things, you say, well, the people that are, that were. That we have in power in the United States. And again, they’re not perfect. And I will invoke the Murray Rothbard and remind everybody that don’t let the perfect be the end. They’re not perfect. Don’t let the enemy. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

If we can move, we still have agency to say we’re not going to do, we’re not going to follow you down this path. Peter Thiel or this guy, you know, like this is. All of that is still in flux. All that is still. Yeah, everybody’s trying to. Peter Thiel is such a character that they can weaponize against him that you can’t use that to allow the really bad guys, this whole European system, to take over to State. Well, they already took over to keep in power. Peter Thiel. That’s the issue. Peter Thiel is the opposite side of the Straussian two step thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

What they’re trying to do is say, oh, look, we have this terrible system over here in Europe. We have this Peter Thiel on the other side, Donald Trump is in the middle and Trump is just, Trump is just, you know, going to empower the Peter Thiels and then everybody runs away from Trump and where do they run to? Run where, where are they going to run to? There’s other options. Well, they’re going to run back. See, that’s the whole thing. They’re going to run back. That’s the scop here is, is making sure Peter, Peter Teal is the absolute villain, which he kind of is.

He’s not the best guy. And, and, and make sure Trump is that guy. And then what that does is then it makes the real bad guys win. It empowers them and empowers them. Right. I don’t like, I don’t know if I like either. The problem is, is that we need to help them beat the old system, but we got to make sure that the new system they put in place is a freedom oriented, it’s not off the rails. That’s where I’m at. And people are afraid of that. But you can’t allow this really bad stuff to go.

Now let’s talk a little bit. I had Mike Seager on, he was really great. Go ahead. You had one more thing I was going to say, what I was going to say is the following, which is, we’re in a situation which is really bad. This is a process. This is not a step function. Right? We’re not going to fix every problem with our current system in this go around. Right? This is where I’m like, yeah, Bitcoin Maxis, you’re not wrong. I want you to be right. Eventually you’re going to be right. Eventually Bitcoin could take over and give a sovereign collateral.

And nobody trusts anybody though. Nobody trusts anything after what we’ve dealt with. Right. And so this is where you, this is where you have to go ahead and this is where you have to say, I have a couple of basic, like, in a world where all information is fungible, right, where all understanding and trust is under attack, right, Everything’s psyoped, everything’s been weaponized, everything. There, there comes a point where you do have to use the simple and first most powerful political heuristic. Whoever they hate is probably on your side. And who are the two most hated men in the world? Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

They are. Everything is Russian’s fault. Everything is Russia’s fault. And so if you use those as constants in a mathematical model, right, you’re writing a function F of X equals blah blah, blah blah plus C1 plus C2, C1 and C2 are. Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin’s are not that part of that system. They’re now, they are deal makers, they are mob bosses. They are not perfect men. They have their flaws. I’m happy to have conversations about their flaws and their strengths. But they are constants that they are opposed to all this other stuff. But that’s how bad we, that’s how bad it is, is the worst criminals don’t put on a face right now of being angels.

We literally have that as the issue. And it’s hard because the average person looks at it and go, at least these people are normal. It’s like they aren’t normal because underneath, I mean underneath there this is blackmail system. And then at the end of the day you can, you can use parts of that blackmail system to your advantage if you have the right ethos. And this is where, and this is where people are going to have the hardest time dealing with the problem of this, which is that we all want to maintain our principles in an unprincipled world while we move towards our principles like this has been.

This is my argument, this is my argument about the Federal Reserve. I’m like, the Federal Reserve sucks. I want it to go away tomorrow. But it’s also a very powerful tool to undo the old system because the Fed is the most powerful central bank in the world. If it can be reformed, if we can get control over the pricing of our dollars, which we have, and then we start to, then we put a non Keynesian in charge of the Fed. Kevin Warsh is not a Keynesian in Morris doesn’t believe in the Phillips Curve. This is very important.

This is foundational. This is something that I never thought I’d live long enough to ever see. Okay, well let’s, let’s talk about the Middle East a little bit. And when I had a steger on, he had an interesting point. He said that the city of London have been funding the destabilization of the Middle east for decades. And what we’re watching is this is, is this they’re trying to unwind the destabilization. But I gotta tell you. Okay, that makes sense. But I gotta tell you, they’re unwinding it with one of their partners being off the rails. And because I think Israel’s off the rails, I think what they’re doing is off the rails.

And the hard part, yeah, it’s completely unacceptable. So they’re trying to. So our allies are not allies that we really, I always compare it to. Like we have our ally is the serial killer killer in the next. We’re fighting the other prison ward and their ally is the person in the next cell who’s a serial killer. Yeah, you don’t have a choice kind of because you got to fight the other prison ward. But I mean, I think that’s what’s happening. But so then when people, when people say because Israel’s is in Israel is off the rails, we have all these co citizens, dual citizens, we have, you know, wanting to merge our militaries do all these things when we’re watching them act like, act like people we don’t want to associate with.

There’s some real issues here right there. Are there? Absolutely. But here’s, here’s a couple of things. Steve Kuhn, a guy I’ve done a couple of podcasts with, just in a really great. I just reposted on my Twitter video, like a 4 1/2 minute video about, about what’s happening, what Trump is actually trying to pull off. And it’s the thing that I’ve been, that I’ve been theorizing that he could pull off, going back almost 10 years now, which is why I wouldn’t call it the grant. I used to call it the Grand Bargain, my friend Halsey English, when I used to call it the Grand Bargain, it’s not really the Grand Bargain, but it, what it is is this.

You’ve got hardliners on every side. You’ve got hardliners in America, you’ve got hardliners in Israel, you’ve got hardliners in, in Iran. You also have the City of London and France. France is also deeply embedded in all of this. They all have vested interest in keeping this thing, this thing going. Right. So we’ve been over this. I think we’ve been over the shipping insurance thing. If you’ve talked to Mike Steger, then you probably talked about odds of London and all that other stuff as well. Well, here’s the gig. The goal here is to disempower all of the hardliners.

If you want like a TLDR on this, like, because I know we, we don’t have a, I mean, this is a three hour conversation. This is not. Do the best you can. Right. This is a. I want to try and do this in like two to three minutes. I’ll have to have you back. Sure. And I’ll be happy to do so. This has been a lovely conversation. My, my point is, is that you’ve got these hardliners, they all have to be disempowered. And the best way to disempower them, and I literally said this beginning of the work.

So it was good to see Steve come around to my, to my way of thinking. Whether I influenced him or not is irrelevant. I don’t care. Which is that you give them the war they want and then they’re still not very happy because you didn’t give them the regime change in Iran, which then allowed Israel to do what it’s going to do, which is another City of London play or you don’t. You disempower all of them. Them. Because as my friend Amberlingame likes to put out, likes to talk about all the time, if you want to avoid World War 3, the first thing you have to do is blow up and expend all of the assets that have been built up to fight World War Three.

If you don’t have the bases and you don’t have the missiles and you don’t have the infrastructure and all of that, then you don’t have the armies to fight the wars. So if you look at what’s actually being done, the actual net effect of the assets and the material that have been expended so far, you see that Iran’s access of resistance network, Hezbollah, the Houthis, this one, that one, everything else that’s all gone away. The Russians and the Chinese have stood by and watched the Americans blow everything up. The Israel, Netanyahu. Every day Trump gets up and he screams about Netanyahu’s in trans against over and over and over again.

The Israelis got a bunch of punches in the mouth that they’d never gotten before. Israelis are. The whole world doesn’t like them right now. Right. And, but that’s also part of the psyop. Okay, I, I know, but it’s, but it’s. There’s a lot of truth to that. No, no, there is. There absolutely is. The best lies have a core of truth in them. And the like, hypnic wing of Israeli politics has been empowered. Right. And how did they do that? They did it the exact same way they did it to the neocon faction in the United States after 9 11.

Right. Americans got attacked in a way that we had never been attacked before. They gave us a convenient enemy. We were angry and pissed off and we said, yeah, 20 year global war on terror. And now. And we’re sitting back here and the people who saw it, myself and others and many libertarians and many, and many people on the anti war lab saw it for what it was, but we didn’t have the political power to stop it. The same thing was happening in Israel. Like, Israel’s not a monolith. No, absolutely. The people aren’t happy with what’s going on there.

And Iran is not a monolith either. There’s a big difference between the isma and I like the fact that recently Trump has been making the distinction between the Islamic Republic of Iran and Iran. Iran is an idea, is the thing. He’s trying to nurture a new Iran. Right from the beginning of this war. I’m like, well, do you Invoke Israel. Which Israel? You invoke Iran. Which Iran? You invoke the United States. Which United States? We’ve got five factions in the United States all grifting off this thing. We’ve got. Everybody’s fighting, everybody’s fighting, everybody’s fighting for control.

I know it’s a mess. So take one thing as a constant. Trump wants out of the foreign wars. He wants to move the center of the world economic system away from the old world of Europe and the Middle east and move it to the north and South America. So why isn’t he that way? Why isn’t he sharing that? And why doesn’t he have better pr? I mean, like I said, Promethean Action Group is the only one and you maybe that are communicating and actually being his. Otherwise, he’s like, isolated right now. From a political standpoint, that is not a positive.

You’re not going to win midterms being isolated. Well, he’s. If you look at his support within his actual community, and I’m not talking about the online community on Twitter, which is 90, which is like 90% bots at this point. I’m not talking about. Twitter sucks. Twitter’s. Twitter’s terrible that way. But it’s also indicative of how desperate the science machine is because they have to constantly. This goes back to my argument with Michael Yan, by the way. That’s a different. But that’s a different conversation because I poked that snake to see what kind of reaction I would get out of it.

And I got exactly the reaction I was expecting, by the way. So. But why Trump? Trump is. Has a couple of falses. One is that he likes to only attack, talk about the, the benefits without talking about the downsides. But at the same time, what he’s been doing is he’s been putting a lot of those, Those ideas into the mouths of people like J.D. vance and Marco Rubio. Because they’re the. Because they’re the. They’re the. Because they could communicate better. Yeah. Well, it’s not just that they, they can speak to the people in the middle of the electorate that are not.

Not on one side or the other. Not the Fabian Socialists and the communists on the one side and the left who you’re never going to get. And the people on, you know, the maga. Right. For lack of a better term, they’re with Trump. They’re right or die with Trump. Well, they are. They’re not that. But the majority of the people are independent now. So you. But. Right. But the 40% of the people in the middle, you have to realize that J.D. vance presents a better, a better image of this. Marco Rubio presents JD Vance comes across as a hard Christian comes convert.

So he, they’re really painting him as almost a cartoon character in the media too, because he’s so like. But he went. But he went on the View. But he went on the View, and he did. Again. We have to. We have one of the biggest problems that I’ve noted within the kind of alternative media set. And it’s a. And it’s both a blessing and a curse, Sarah. And I’m not. This is, this is, this is a constructive criticism. This is the constructive criticism. Not, Not. I’m not being mean, which is that we’re thinking 3, 4, 5 Sigma away from the norm.

We forget that we’re not the norm and that we think that one sigma away from where we are is normal. It’s not. We’re like four sigmas away from this. You’re right. And my husband keeps saying that to me, like all the time. And I, and I, and I’m telling you, I interact with it enough. And I had to. I have to talk my own, my own community down off the ledge sometimes because they’re just as sensitive to these little things that I, I’ve alerted them and I trained them to see these little moments of, oh, there’s the betrayal, there’s that, there’s a guest.

But we are in the tactics and we’re in the, We’re. We’re dealing with the stuff moment by moment. The average person is like, yeah, no, oil prices are back down. Iran seems to be. The average person is not thinking about anything. Okay. So. Right. And so if you, if you, if you give us the good cop, Vance and Rubio and Trump goes out there and just keeps doing his Trump thing. I don’t know if I agree with it. I don’t. I don’t know. And that’s fair. I’m not saying it’s the best messaging. I’m just saying that’s what, that’s the strategy they’ve chosen.

I think Promethean action is the best thing I’ve seen for them. I think they’re kicking ass in how they’re representing. Yeah. How they’re, how they’re communicating is like off the charts compared to everybody else. I agree. Yeah. And so if I was them, I mean, they should be getting paid for being PR. Armed for them. But I don’t know if they are or not. But I don’t think so because they’ve been doing that. They might be getting money to help them go, but they were part of the LaRouche movement forever. And I always had Harley schlanger on on a continual basis.

And then they broke from each other and created Promethean action from the LaRouche organization. So they’re your background is. It’s an interesting backstory when you read through that. I had Susan Gokinda on my podcast and the Gold Ghost and Guns podcast to address this very thing. We actually spent like 20 minutes like talking about the why the split, why all of these things and all of that. And they did it on purpose because they don’t, they don’t trust LaRouche’s widow at all. Okay, that’s the problem. Just a short break from the program to share with you an amazing peptide to help you lose weight.

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And that was, that was hard for the people in the. Who you couldn’t see through that agenda. So what was the deal with that? I do not know. I have not asked Susan about that. I have not talked to her about those things. But like I said, all I can tell you is that the first time that we went on together and I said, you know, she said, you and I are going to have some problems about the Federal Reserve. And I gave her my argument about why Powell was actually setting the stage for where we are today.

Susan very assiduously sat there with her notebook book taking notes the entire time. And I’ve noticed over time that she is incorporated. I have been able to convince her of that. She’s smart. They’re freaking smart. I would like them, I would like them because I asked her about the technical stuff, the surveillance state and stuff. And she says that’s not my area. And because that is my area, you know, that is my background, that, that’s what I think about. I’m like, holy shit, what’s going on here? But, but I see the other side. So because I, I got my feet wet with the blackmail system, right? And with awful.

I got to see a lot of that. And so because I have that foundation, plus I’m a bet my background, I came out of telecom, right. So, and, and so I see the whole surveillance state being set up and then. But I have that blackmail foundation. So it gave me a different perspective, right. To be able to balance that out a bit. But, but here’s the thing. You can’t gloss over that because that’s a big effing deal, pardon my French, without saying the French. Yeah, no, I agree with you and I think it’s good that we’re all having these conversations.

So we keep coming at all of these issues from different perspectives. But don’t lose sight of the fact that if you don’t win the initial battles here. Yeah. None of it, none of it matters. It’s like it’s I, I, I. For years I used to preach, I used to, I used to preach order of operations. Right? Right. Like first we have to get control of the pricing of US dollars, then we have to get control of the pricing of gold. Then we have to get the pricing of oil. Then all these things have to start happening in order.

And that’s going to make it easier to then neuter whatever coming next. And they’re of course trying to do an end run around all that. And Encapsulated. Yeah. These assholes are trying to go after these guys, and they’re trying to make an end run, to just make it happen. And so you’re like, almost fighting on two fronts, but you can’t let these guys win. And then they’re. And then they’re. And then they’re fighting us on immigration, deportations, this, that, everything else. Like, they’re doing all of it. Like, I identified about a year and a half ago.

I identified a year, a year and a half ago, and I went, look at all the states where we have, where we have Democratic governors who are absolute nightmares. Look at the states that they have that. They targeted Minnesota. I’m living in Minnesota. They targeted all the ports. They targeted all the major waterways. The only two waterways they don’t fully control are the Gulf of America and Florida. So what are they doing? They still got Greg Abbott, who’s you can’t trust, you know, at all. And then they’re trying to run this mongoloid, Byron Donalds to take over as governor of Florida after Ron DeSantis.

Why? Of course, because at some point they’re what they’re. They’re already thinking five steps ahead. Like, even if they are, Even if they lose the midterms now that. Now with the, with the, with the Roberts betrayal, Robertson Barrett betrayal over birthright citizenship, they know full well what they’re going to do now. They’re going to flood Florida in Texas as best they can, turn them purple again. This guy Donalds is going to, Is going to undo. Is going to do everything he can because the Florida GOP is as corrupt as any GOP on the planet. Like, Dexter White and I are both Floridians, and we know Florida politics really, really well.

Okay. And, you know, we’ve been. This has been over the horizon for us for a while. And I’m like, okay, so what’s the scenario? If you go for a Civil war scenario where the blue states on the left coast plus the Northeast try to quote, unquote, secede? Well, then everybody’s natural reaction. Well, then the middle of the country will, you know, will, Will. Will fight them on it and will move the capital of the country to Florida or Texas to like. Yeah, well, they’re targeting for it in Texas. Like, it’s the same. It is that serious, isn’t it? I mean, we are.

It is that serious. It is that serious. It is that serious. I know. And so this is why I don’t want to fight with people like Mike Adams. I don’t want to fight with. With people like this. But I want you to, like, I’m like, you have to think strategically. You have to think like your enemy’s on your side. Mike is on the good side. He. I know he is, but, you know, he’s got it. But he’s got. But, you know, we also have to level up. Like, we have to get up. We have to level up strategically and go.

We’re going to fight the battle that’s in front of us because we can’t work and. And understand that in the conte. Context of the war that we’re fighting and then move to the next. And then move from battle to battle. And yeah, we’re not in charge of the battle space. Like, we’re not. And we’re gonna fight and we’re either gonna. You know, it’s awful. Yeah, no, I understand where you’re coming from. That makes sense to me. Where can people follow? You’re still on Patreon. I got kicked off Patreon. I never got my. They. They’re awful. Well, see, see, this is an interesting thing, right? I wrote about this for a long time, which is Patreon.

I don’t think Patreon is one. They’ve always been very good to me. Okay. And I’ve always said, you know, I remember when Jack Dorsey was running Twitter and I’m like, everybody hated Jack Dorsey, even though the board was the one making all the bad decisions. Even though it was George Soros and everybody else was on the board making all the bad decisions. So what else is that? What else did they do? They like, Patreon is a very. Well, at the time, certainly when they were doing all the deep platform, a very small company, like 40 people.

But be a Patreon, go ahead. Put it this way. They screwed me for doing. And I didn’t do anything wrong. But most of their security team quit. So there was going on there. Right. What I’m getting at here is that they don’t have any leverage if the, if the Biden administration or Soros or this one or that one turns to them and goes, look, if you don’t. If you don’t deplatform these people, we’re going to cut off your bank accounts. Again, news for you. The company is going to. That’s what happened. And then that’s what happened.

I get it. And they also had a. They also had a porn. A child porn channel that had 250,000 or 268,000 subscribers. And that was on. But you took me off. Who was fighting against trafficking. What the hell is that? Right. Because that’s the kind of thing that they do to then destroy that revenue mechanism for people like us. I was able to somehow skate through it all and never get. And never have any problems with them. And I think the culture within pay grant has. Has changed for the better over. Over time because they’re. They’ve been upgrading.

They know they did things wrong internally. They know they. Of course they hurt people. Who are the good people who are really just trying to help kids. And really, I mean, you don’t take down somebody who’s exposing a trafficker. I mean, if you have any kind of morals. Right, Right. But you also have to think. You also have to remember, like, this is the problem with this. Again, that’s how you’re fighting. That’s how bad these people are. I know that’ literally get it. So I’m just. And I think a lot of my audience gets it right.

And what I’m saying is, I’m not saying that they didn’t do wrong, but you have to understand their relative power position in the world of power politics. They were targeted and then they protected themselves and they had to protect themselves. It’s either that or not have a going concern. If I was running Patreon and that happened, I would be like, this sucks. I don’t want to do it. I can go down with. I can go down with the ship and then they’ll, you know, and then everybody will lose. But that’s what needs to be exposed. Because I do think that that makes sense.

They were a victim, too. And then I got canned. And there’s a bunch of us that got canned, but they’re the victim. Jordan Peterson got taken off the Patreon. Everybody did. Right. So you think of it this way. They’re the victim and they get turned into the villain. Right. And in the hero, victim, villain triangle of narrative. Right? That’s right. That’s right. But that’s why you got to look under the hood and you got to figure out what really. It’s a scene. All this stuff is a major crime scene. Agree. You know, me being on the front page of.

Like I was saying before, the. The. The worst thing you can do to a man is turn him into a pedophile. The worst. Wrongly turn them. If they really are a pedophile, they need to. I don’t have any. They. But the worst thing. You can send them to Gen Pop. Gen Pop will take care of it. Send them to the worst place you can find the Worst thing you can do to a female is turn her into a whore. A porn star. Right, right. Agreed. And they put me on the front page of Google search as a porn star for four weeks.

You know that what’s wrong with these people? And so you got to get under the hood and figure out who was behind this stuff. That’s a crime and what’s going on Now I don’t think everybody at Google are. There’s some really good people there. Everybody in big tech are not like this. They see that as wrong too. But that’s, that’s why we need them inside fighting. But that’s also why we need to expose, knows who’s behind this criminal activity. And it’s also the people we’re fighting that this is what’s, what we’re, this is how bad these people really are.

Right. And what I would say is this is that if you fundamentally alter the, the playing field then eventually all of these, all of these wrongs, they’re not all going to get righted. You’re never going to be made whole. Sarah. I hate. You know, I know, I know you know that. I’m just like, I know you know that. And, and I would like to get a little bit of made whole though. Maybe I can like ride into the sunset a little bit with some retirement. Sure. I get it. I do. And I don’t begrudge anybody who’s holding a grudge for being targeted that way.

I know how hard I hold a grudge. I’m still holding the grudge against my mom. She’s been dead for eight years. Like this is not hard. It’s fine. I get it. And I’m not trying to absolve anybody of this. What I’m saying is if I’m Trump. Right, Right. And I’m trying to fix a lot of this stuff. It’s like I’m going to fix what I can. I’m going to defund the, the base level networks of the child trafficking. I’m going to find out where all their bank accounts are. I’m going to like, I’m going to poke them in such a way that I force them to react so that I can cut off their funding networks, which is a lot of what’s going on in the Middle east, by the way.

Right. A lot of what went on in like the LA riots at the beginning of his term. Right. He purposefully went and, and, and poked a. To see who they are, are, to see who they are. Watch all the funding networks light up. Watch where the Money flows in order for them to get their rent. The mob in and then go, okay, now we can start. Now we can start the investigations. Now we can start shutting this stuff down. And it’s not sexy work and it doesn’t make headlines really, but it’s the foundational work necessary to make sure or to minimize the number of, of incidents like the, like what you’ve gone through and like other people.

That makes sense. Just fix the phone to fix it so that doesn’t happen to others. And that’s what I want want. That’s what my lawsuit hopefully. Let’s get under the hood and see some of these things that are happening. People need to understand what the mechanism of this stuff is. Yes. So if we’re. As a wrap up, I’m, you know, we’re. Yes. We’re still on Patreon at Patreon slash Cold Goods and guns. Patreon Trust treated me very well over the years and I can’t, I can’t complain about it. I’m, I’m one of the few. And, and of course you can follow me on Twitter @tfl1728 and I’ll.

And I’m under orders to stop being so, so unabashedly combative so that I can actually get, you know, who, who’s under order? Who’s giving you the order to. Not. My, my, my, my business partner is just funny. He’s like, dude, come on. Like, you don’t have to, you don’t have to fight with everybody that, that comes your way. I’m like, yeah, you’re right. So, you know, a little bit, A little bit is good. Too much of it is bad. So it’s like, it’s the right balance. I and I and I, you know, I, I’m combative. What am I going to do? Like, you know, that’s fair.

I get, I get, I get a little bit too much dopamine from, you know, know, you calling people retards. It’s like, what am I going to do? Like, I can’t help myself. Okay, well, you know, maybe some people deserve it, other people don’t, and it just ends up being. Yeah, okay, well, this is a, this was a really enjoyable conversation. I appreciate it. Good. So did I. I had a great time. Thank you. And I’ll be happy. And I’ll be happy to do it again. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Sa.
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