The Banking System Was Designed for Those Who Understand It

➡ The text discusses the corruption in high-level systems, the unreliability of the financial system, and the importance of investing in physical precious metals to reduce dependence on unstable systems. It introduces a financial engineer, Ian Clifford, who shares his experience as a whistleblower during the 2008 financial crisis and his current work educating people about the financial system. He claims to have a method to use taxes to pay off mortgages and loans, which will be discussed in an upcoming webinar. The text also emphasizes the importance of learning and making informed decisions about financial matters.
➡ The speaker discusses his experience as a wealth manager and how he became a scapegoat for a banking scandal. He tried to expose the fraudulent activities of the Bank of Scotland and other major banks, but was ignored by regulators and the media. He believes that the banking system is a tool for controlling people and that most politicians are corrupt. He also discusses the concept of a “human tax farm” and the dangers of censorship and misinformation.
➡ The speaker discusses how their reputation and work were undermined by false information spread about them. They believe that more people are becoming aware of how systems of control operate and are creating their own communities in response. The speaker also shares their experience with the financial system, including being denied licenses and having their partnerships investigated. They argue that the global money system is a form of control and that the U.S. dollar is more powerful than most realize due to its status as the world reserve currency.
➡ The speaker discusses their work in educating people about the banking and legal systems, likening it to a game of Monopoly. They also address accusations of scamming from former associates, revealing ongoing lawsuits. The conversation shifts to the corruption and protection of elites in the UK, with the speaker expressing their belief that the US still offers more justice. They share stories of individuals fearing for their safety due to exposing corruption, and express concern over the state of the UK, describing it as a totalitarian country.
➡ The speaker discusses their experiences with corruption and injustice, particularly in the UK. They mention their struggles with blackmail, bribery, and a biased justice system. They also touch on serious issues like child exploitation, hinting at some progress in addressing these crimes. However, they express frustration at the general public’s apathy unless they are directly affected, and encourage people to seek the truth and push back against the system.
➡ The speaker discusses the complexities of the global financial system, suggesting that it operates like a game of Monopoly where only a few understand the rules. They argue that most people unknowingly contribute their energy to this system through banking activities, which benefits a small percentage of the population. The speaker, with a background in financial engineering, claims to have figured out how to redirect taxes lawfully within this system and teaches others to do the same. They believe that understanding and playing this system better can lead to prosperity without causing harm to others.
➡ The webinars provide information on how to legally pay off mortgages by redirecting taxes through a creditor entity, a method approved by the Joint Committee on Taxation. The United States treasury manages a vast amount of data, including tax returns from around the world. The speaker emphasizes the importance of continuous learning and shares his experiences of facing challenges due to his knowledge. The webinars aim to educate people about these financial systems and how to navigate them effectively.

Well, I think they’re involved. You know, you get to the point where many of them are untouchable. Literally they’re like mafia untouchable. And you know, you get to that level, if you’ve risen up to that level, you’ve got to be corrupt. You don’t get there unless you are corrupt and then you’re protected as we’ve seen in the last few years. I mean, how many people have been jailed in that Epstein scandal? Well, that’s right. I mean, how can, how can a whole group of people that are raping young girls be protected? People assume the financial system is safe, but then banks fail, governments freeze assets, inflation quietly steals purchasing power.

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Welcome to business Game Changers and the Friday night Economic Review. I have Ian Clifford coming back to the program. He is a financial engineer and we’re going to briefly talk about his background again. He was on the show maybe a month ago and he talked about his whistleblowing during 2008 financial crisis. He’s from the UK and how that him into really hot water against very powerful people. So he’s going to talk about that experience and how that’s haunting him to today. But he is spending time now creating webinars and informing people how the financial system really works and he’s going to talk about it in the show and he claims that you can redirect your tax taxes to pay off your mortgage and other loans and other things.

He’s going to talk about that and I say I can’t vouch for him because I don’t understand it enough to say yeah, this is, this is 100%. But I gotta tell you, I’ve talked to many people over the years that claim this is how it works. And I’ve just never found anybody who talks in a way that I feel comfortable with and that I feel that they know what they’re talking about to a degree from a financial perspective, not a sovereign nation perspective. You know, there’s all these sovereign movements. And that was made me uncomfortable because I didn’t think that they quite understood the finance part of it.

This guy’s not coming at it from that perspective at all. He’s just coming on it pure from a financial system perspective. Said and claims this is 100% legal and shows you how to do it. You’re not getting involved in changing your status and all these things that really can be risky. This is a, it makes sense to me. It’s not like this risky thing that you’re doing to the same degree and, or to any degree. And I can’t vouch for it, but I can vouch for you learning about it. We in this country, we have the right freedom of speech, you have the right to learn things, you have the right to make up your own mind, you have the right to read, you have the right to listen to somebody that’s telling you something about the financial system and see if it makes sense to you.

And so I’m going to do a webinar with him. We’re going to dive deeper into this. It’s going to be August 11th at 4:00pm Central Time. It’s going to be Follow my substack@Sarah Wessel.substack.com you can sign up there, even go to Sarah Wessel.com and sign up for my newsletter that is signing up for my substack and you will be able to sign up for this webinar. I will have a sign up link on my website. I will also have a sign up link for that webinar which I will have a link to that below. I’m working on doing more events and having an event schedule so hopefully it’ll be done by then.

Otherwise I’ll have a link below and we’ll do our normal zoom webinar and then we do the replays on my sub stack. But it’s going to be live so you can ask questions. There’s going to be so many questions. It’s he’s not going to be able to answer them all, but we’re going to at least get started. Like you said, it takes you like five webinars before it really starts to click. And so I’ve been talking to him for months and I’m like, I’m not sure if I, you know, I got to learn more And I said this at the end.

I’m, I’m humbled enough to realize I don’t know everything. I don’t know anything, really. When you realize how little you know, the more you know, the more you know, you don’t know. And this is the case with this. And so anyways, there’s a link below to this webinar. And before we get into that, make sure you subscribe to this channel, whatever platform you’re on, take a moment, hit that subscribe button. Because that’s how we grow and that’s how people learn about these new things that I try to present and get to you on a regular basis.

Okay, let’s get into this interesting conversation I have with Ian Clifford. He’s a former financial engineer and banker from the United Kingdom. Hi, Ian. Welcome back to the program. Well, thank you for having me. We didn’t get a chance to really get into some of the subject matter that I wanted to. You were a former banker in England, right, And in the uk and you were exposed to a lot of things we talked in the last show. So if people want to see it, you got, you were a whistleblower and you talked a little bit about your whistleblowing experience and why you blew the whistle.

And there’s been some aggressive treatment towards you because of that. And I think maybe we can talk a little bit about that, but maybe we can skim over it. And so people want to see the details. They said, go look at the last show that you did. But essentially you were involved in high finance. And during the 2008 crash, you blew the whistle. Can you just briefly talk about that and then we’ll point people to the other show. And then I have some more things I want to ask you about. Absolutely. I mean, you know, I was involved in banking.

I was never really a banker. I was an asset manager and a wealth manager. And I had a big financial services firm which, you know, I grew over a 30 year period. It was a, you know, very progressive and very structured plan that I followed to grow it. And I had a big breakthrough in year 2000 where the bank of Scotland offered me a joint venture, offered my firm a joint venture. And that to me was a big, you know, it’s like winning a lottery because, you know, you’ve got one of the biggest banks in the UK offering you a joint venture.

And effectively they gave my firm access to a credit line, an unlimited credit line that I could use to offer investors who put their capital along with bank credit to buy assets that My firm could then manage and we built a 1 billion pound portfolio of thousands of investors with different managed accounts, so individual accounts. And it was all going really well up until the alleged financial crisis. I say the alleged because when you really get deeply into how the banks create credit or create money of account, ex nilio, which basically added nothing out of the signature, there should never be any financial crisis, there should never be any banking crisis at all.

But all these things are obviously engineered well. They wanted to steal the assets that the credit line was secured against, the assets that my firm was managing. So back in 2008, when you had the subprime mortgage crisis and all of that stuff going on, which is all engineered, the banks were involved in asset grabbing all over the world. In the UK it was estimated at 90 billion pounds of assets that the banks grabbed because they could, because they had the credit line, they had the agreement, they had the contract that enabled them to seize the assets.

And this is all part of the boom and bust cycle of banking. It’s been the same all the way through history. The banks create credit, they boom up the economy, then they crash it and then they take assets and then they do it again. They boom the economies up, they crash them, they take the assets. And do you expect that to happen? Do you expect that to happen this time where many people are going to lose almost everything they have? I mean, because they talk about you own nothing and be happy. Right? Was that part of the plan is to do a big grab? It’s, it’s basically, it’s all baked into the cake.

It’s all part of a, you know, a worldwide control agenda. The banking element of it is, you know, very pivotal to the control of human behavior. They give people the illusion of prosperity, they give them access to credit, they give them access to, you know, what appears to be affluence. But in reality, and we can get into this maybe later in the show, there’s only, you know, there’s the realm of substance, you know, the living men and women. We are substance. We’re, you know, expressions of consciousness. And then there’s an artificial like game. I describe it as the game of Monopoly.

And I didn’t know any of these things when I was a money manager, a wealth manager. I’ve learned all of this in the last 15, 16 years. And I discovered that the bank of Scotland was trading whilst it was insolvent. Now that’s a criminal acts, criminal activity anywhere in the world. The directors of that bank should have gone to jail. It was all covered up in the uk, right from the bank of England to the treasury to the financial regulator, which then was the Financial Services Authority. My firm was authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority.

I then discovered that having blown the whistle on the bank’s insolvency, that the. Basically the regulator is the bitch of the banks. It’s the inverse. The regulators don’t regulate the banks, the banks control the regulators. And I learned all of these things after my firm was destroyed. You know, I’m on the television, there’s two TV programs made about my firm, there’s radio shows, I’m all over the Internet, front pages of newspapers. And they blame my firm for why 1 billion of assets was taken by the bank. But they basically made me the scapegoat for that. And that was my big awakening moment and it led me to the pathway I’ve been on for the last 15, 16 years.

You felt that you were blamed for what they were doing because they needed a scapegoat and they made you a scapegoat on the front page of all these newspapers. Now, are enough people in the uk, do they believe it or do they. More and more people are starting to say maybe he’s onto something. It’s been three. Well, there’s been two really major scandals in the uk. You’ve got the Hillsborough football scandal, where many, many people died in a football stadium. It was all covered up. It went on for 20, 25 years. It all came out and the British establishment was disgraced.

Then you’ve had, in recent years, you’ve had the Post Office scandal. Well, they actually jailed a lot of Post office workers unlawfully and that was a scandal that took 15, 20 years to come out. Again, the British establishment was disgraced. But the one that’s never really been investigated properly is the banking scandal. £90 billion worth of assets grabbed by the top six banks, covered up from the treasury downwards. I tried to reveal it. I took on the establishment many years ago. I went into the high courts, I tried to take it on, I tried to expose this big banking fraud.

I blew the whistle to all the regulators. Everybody ignored me. I tried to take the banks on in the high courts to try and get the 1 billion back for my investors. You realize that you’re up against it. You’re basically up against the cabal. Aren’t they the most powerful, really? I mean, they’re, they’re the Epstein class on steroids. And so you, you. It’s very difficult to go up against them, right? They, they control the media, they Control everything. So do you believe? I mean what did you do? You just decided not to. It wasn’t worth it.

When you try to do other businesses or what happened after that? Well basically you go through, you know, you learn these things as you go along. You don’t know any of this when you start out. I mean I used to believe there was integrity. I used to courts were the place that you got justice. I used to believe there was honor. All of these things are delusional beliefs that I’ve discovered just aren’t, just don’t exist. There is a. And I was talking to an ex MP this morning. A two hour meeting with an ex MP Andrew Bridge.

Be great for you to get him on your show. He was one of the guys who stood up and said that these injections are going to be very harmful. Got drummed out of parliament. His name is Andrew Bridgen. Got a big following. He was in parliament. He’s telling me that the majority of the politicians are corrupted. If they progress, it’s because they’ve taken a deal. They’re there to basically they’re there to continue an agenda. They’re selected, they’re not elected. It’s the same in nearly every country. If they progress up to the higher echelons of politics it’s because they’ve been selected to, you know, to further an agenda or a control agenda.

Well, it’s, they run it like a company, right? I mean they run it and say who do we want to lead this area? Who do we trust, whatever. And then they pick it and then that’s who they put, make sure the money is behind when it comes to the election. And then they make sure that not only do they put the money behind it, they make sure that they also control the digital machines and the process so that they can push them over the edge to win if necessary. We live in a human tax farm. Sarah and I’ll talk a little bit more about that.

Human tax. Okay. Human tax farm. I’ve recently been studying a lot of the Gnostics belief and it’s very, very interesting, you know, how they, how that belief system is. Looking at the Matrix, you know the movie the Matrix and we’re living in a hologram and basically there are conscious energy is being farmed. Now I, you know, if you’d asked me this 15 years ago, I would have said anybody who’s going down those pathways is probably crazy because I was a very professional guy with letters after my name. Very institutionalized, very into the, you know, into what I’d learned over my career, et cetera.

But in the last 15 years my eyes have been completely opened. I’m very open to any, anything really. But do you think that sometimes people put on project more than what they’re capable of doing and that it becomes more of a creative endeavor of what’s possible versus what they’re really capable of doing? Do you know what I’m asking? Well, for me there is, you know, there is a march towards totalitarianism. There’s a very, as David Icke says, it’s a totalitarian tiptoe. These, there is a control agenda, no question at all in my mind. And the banking and the financial side of it, the money side is one of the pillars of the control agenda.

If you can control the money, yeah, you can control the people. Right. But what I’m, what I’m kind of pushing back on a little bit is I think we give them more credit than they deserve. I don’t think that they, I think when we talk about them as if they’re all powerful and all knowing, then we, we yield to their abilities. I don’t think they’re as clever and as capable as what people in all the alternate independent media is giving them. I think that they might look like it based on what they write on paper as far as what their plans are, but in actual implementation and what they’re capable of.

I just don’t see it. I don’t see them as being this all knowing, capable group of people. And so, and I also don’t think they’re all working in unison. That’s where I’m at. I, I, so I think we, we do ourselves a disservice by making it out to be like they’re more than what they are, is what I’m saying. Oh, I agree with you. I mean, their big Achilles heel is that they believe that the majority of the world population is very ignorant. Knowledge and access to knowledge is their big Achilles heel. If you look at AI for example, a lot of people would probably say AI is awesome.

It’s, you know, it’s a way to expand your knowledge base. You can go to AI, you can search things, it will tell you all sorts of information and that’s got to be great for humanity. But then you realize that a lot of the information on AI is censored as the Internet is censored, as you know very well. You know what censorship’s all about. They’ve censored me. I mean, I’m all over the Internet. You’ll find stories about Me loads of propaganda and you’ll think that I’m one of the world’s biggest fraudsters. If you go and search my name and have a look at my website.

Yeah, they propagate the negative, make sure that’s front and center. And then they suppress anything that goes against that. So that is, that is more than just censorship. That’s destruction of a person’s reputation by propagating. That’s what happened to me first front page of Google search and things. They’re propagating things that aren’t true about me while suppressing my real work. That’s beyond just censorship. I agree. And this is why I think this, the Achilles head of the establishment is that more and more people are realizing how the world really operates. More and more people are looking into it.

More and more people are realizing how these systems work. More and more people are rebelling against it, not, not with violence, but they’re just creating their own systems. They’re creating their own programs, their own, you know, their own communities. And I think this is their biggest Achilles heel. But years ago everyone would just follow what the government said, do this, do that, follow all the statutes, all the laws or the so called laws. And you know, most people weren’t standing up, they weren’t waking up to the reality that there is a control agenda. And I think they’re very worried about more and more people waking up to it.

Well, they went too far during COVID where they locked everyone down and they did ridiculous things like leave Walmart’s open and Home Depot is open while they were locking down the local, the local hardware store. It’s like, well why would you lock down the local hardware store when there is hardly anybody in there but these mass stores you left open. Or why were you leaving open the liquor stores but closing down the churches? And why were you? I mean it was just so random and. But this is where I get at that. They might write things down on paper and it’s all planned out, but when they go to implement, they do stuff like that and they’re not as clever as they think are capable trouble as they think they are.

I agree. And that’s where people are waking up to it. My area of speciality is the way the money system works and more and more people are waking up to how the money system really works. Andrew Bridging, who I was talking to this morning, he’s focused a lot on the pharma, big pharma, that’s his area of speciality. He’s looking at what what they, the damage they’ve done across the world, you know, with the injections and all the other things that they’re doing. And he’s been drummed out of Parliament because of it. I got drummed out of financial services because of my knowledge about how the money system works.

You asked me earlier, what did I do? Well, I tried to blow the whistle. I blew the whistle twice, was ignored, suppressed, and then they came after me. Basically the first thing they do is destroy your reputation. And if they, if that doesn’t work then they, whilst destroying your finances as well. So they take away all your credibility and your ability to finance yourself. If you need a license to do like money management, they never give you a license. They don’t turn you down, but they never grant you a license either. So I had seven license applications just run out of the long graphs.

So you’re just in perpetuate for perpetual. They keep you in the process and just act like it’s not there. And I mean you see that, that’s the, that’s a process process you see in the United States. But the United States is better, I think. Not great, but we’re better when it comes to some of those things. They’ve got some playbooks, I mean they can’t reject you, but they can’t, they never accept you either. So when you’re making license applications, I did seven of them over a seven year period. Each one lasted a year and they run out of time because they just ask you the same questions over and over and over again.

Eventually the clock to get a license to manage money runs out. You’ve got to apply again. I did that seven times in a row, seven years. And whilst I’m doing that, I’m partnering with firms that have got financial services licenses. I mean a lot of people had held me in high regard. They wanted to partner with me even though my firm had been destroyed, even though my reputation had been destroyed behind the scenes, you know, in private, people wanted to partner with me. So I would partner. They knew. Yeah, because they knew me, they’d known me over my career, they knew what I was good at, they wanted to partner with me.

But then the regulator would realize that I’m partnering with a firm that’s got a financial services license or very or many licenses and they would move in and they would investigate the firm and basically destroy it. And that happened seven times as well. Wow. So. So they would destroy people. This is what they do too. They destroy people who are associated with you. So nobody wants to be Associated you. They do that in varying degrees with people online and whatever. It’s very, that’s very sad. I’m sorry that happened to you. And I could see the uk, the bankers doing that.

It’s a little better. I mean, that’s why we had the revolution in the beginning. That’s why the United States broke from Britain, why we had the Revolutionary War, was to break from those kind of abuses. And I can see exactly why, you know, the, there was a civil, you know, why there was a war against the British. The British was a tyranny. And they still are really, in many ways. You look at the City of London and the control it has over the money system, still one third of the world’s money flows through the City of London.

It’s huge, much bigger than most people believe. Well, and they still control, Right, they still control the dollar system to a certain degree too, right, The US Dollar. Yeah. I mean, the bank of England is not even in England. The bank of England is in the City of London, which is a principality. It’s separate. It’s like Monaco. It’s, it’s very, very powerful. A lot of people don’t realize it. You know, the money system is, is one of the pillars that controls the behavior of the people. And it is a slavery system that she’s run on taxes.

I’ve discovered it, I’ve tried to reveal it, and now I’m offering people a remedy because you can’t beat the guy. These systems have been around for thousands of years. They’ve been, you know, they’ve introduced them, they’ve reinforced them, they’ve made them stronger and stronger. The dollar system is a worldwide system. A lot of people don’t realize this. You know, the dollar is the world reserve currency. If you look at the imf, the International Monetary Fund, if you look at the bank for International Settlements, if you look at SDRs, if you look at how the money system works, it all really runs through the dollar.

Yeah. It’s why the, you know, the US is way more powerful than a lot of people actually realize because of the money system. And it’s been engineered that way. It was engineered that way by the cabal, by the bloodline banking families that run the money system. So when we look at the Epstein, when we look at the Epstein class, so many of them, were they using that blackmail system? I know there’s multiple blackmail systems, but so many of the bankers and the high level business guys that were doing deals were involved in that. So were they, were they behind that or Were they also involved with that? Well, I think they’re involved.

You know, you get to the point where many of them are untouchable, literally they’re like mafia untouchable. And you know, if you get to that level, if you’ve risen up to that level, you’ve got to be corrupt. You don’t get there unless you are corrupt and then you’re protected as we’ve seen in the last few years. I mean, how many people have been jailed in that Epstein scandal? Just a short break from the program to share with you an amazing peptide to help you lose weight. It’s stronger than Ozempic and why it’s because it not only reduces your appetite but it also burns fat.

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I mean, it feels like we have a black cloud over this country. And until that lifts, we are. Have evil that runs through the veins of this world. I mean, because that, that kind of behavior at the top, making all the decisions, running everything is, is like having, I mean, the worst of the worst running stuff. I just raping young girls. I mean, what’s going on here? And using them as blackmail. MALE and it’s much worse than that. I know I’ve done, done a lot of work over the years that is tame compared to some of the things they do.

But to have that be the black cloud over our country and this whole class of people is pretty damaging, isn’t it? To them it is. And you know, there’s a protective class. And you know, I was offered, I was offered to be one of them and I turned it down. But how protected are they now? I mean, they may be legally protected, but when the majority of people are absolutely disgusted by them, they’re not energetically protected, they’re not karmically protected. They’re despised by the world, essentially. And that’s not being protected from their soul. Right? I mean, you can be wealthy beyond imagination physically with assets, but be poor with your soul.

And that is. This is the definition of having a poor soul. Yeah, I mean, I talk a lot, you know, I’ve got a, a lot of followers around the world. We operate in seven countries. And I talk a lot about the Monopoly board system, which is the money system. It’s the money and the law system as well. It’s an artificial system. And everyone’s playing this game of Monopoly, whether they realize it or not, is how everything works in commerce. It’s all based on the game of Monopoly. And that’s what I specialize in. I teach people how the game works.

I show them how the banking system works. I show them how the money system works. And then you can build in the law as well, because the law and the money goes hand in glove, really. It’s all interconnected. Well, that’s so interesting. One stop. You, you have a partner. We need to talk about this. You have a former partner who has jumped in and calling you a scammer based on what’s going on with your business because you’re educating people on how the banking system really works. You’re doing all these webinars, which I’ll have a link below if people are interested in learning about it.

But you have people on the inside now, now that are coming out who are your former Partners saying that you’re scamming people. What would you say to that? Well, I didn’t have any partners. There were people working in my organization who broke away a year ago and they actually undermined what we’re doing. And I’m suing, I’m suing one of them in the New York District Court at the moment, Southern District of New York. But you have another one that you told me about who used to work with, who’s a lawyer who is writing up blog articles and saying that you are scamming.

This is a guy called Dan Needle. He was never a partner of mine, a law firm called Clifford Chance, which back in the day, years and years ago, 15, 20 years ago, my financial services firm employed Clifford Chance, which is one of the biggest law firms in the United Kingdom, as corporate lawyers. Okay, you were his client? Not the. Okay, yeah, I was his client. He never, I never worked with him in particular, but in the last three years he’s come out and he’s put loads of blogs out there. He was the tax partner of Quicker Chance.

It’s a magic circle law law firm. I’m actually suing him in, in Wyoming for libel and defamation. And he. What? He’s not protected in Wyoming because normally what these guys do and you don’t have it so much in, in the United States, but in the uk, the elites, they surround themselves with, with the protection. So Dan Needle, normally if anybody tries to sue him in the United Kingdom, they won’t get anywhere because he gets a slap order. It’s called a slap order. So you can’t sue him for libel or defamation. But in Wyoming I can. And because I have a, I have an entity in Wyoming that is a trust, basically a trust company that I have a bad trust over.

I can sue him in Wyoming and he can’t get a slap order. Well, the United States, the US still has. Because of what we did during the Revolutionary War, we still have rights and we’re still. Now, we have slid immensely backwards, but we have more rights than a lot of people than anywhere else on the planet because of that Revolutionary War and what we established. We still have issues, but we, we have to preserve them. Because I don’t think people, unless they start realizing the differences and you go elsewhere. I’ve had many people say, sir, you just have to go elsewhere.

And what was someone saying? The best way to the best education, how great the United States is, is to have people go live in other countries for a while. Oh, totally. I mean, the, the United States is one of the few countries that you can still probably get justice, you can’t get justice in the United Kingdom. It’s completely rigged. If you’re going up against the system, you’re going to be. They’re going to run you out of town, they’re going to destroy your reputation. And if you really go after them, they’re going to try and jail you, which is what they’ve tried to do to me twice.

United States, you still, you still have, you still have a judicial system. Not in every state, but in certain states you can still get some fairness. Well, I noticed in your case they’re trying to shock you around, they’re trying to move you about your case. I did have a good look at it. And so there are certain places in the United States that you can get justice. Well, that’s what we’re trying to do, right? We’re trying to get. And there’s a lot of lawfare, right? And there’s a lot of activist judges and we need to clean up our system here.

But there’s, there are some pockets that are still operating properly. And there’s good people who are trying to fix this because they’re realizing, oh, my God, what are we going to lose? We had something that was wonderful. Even if it was broken in many places, it was still way better than elsewhere. I mean, the American system is what is how it should be. The American constitution is how it should be. It doesn’t work like that because it’s been corrupted along the way. But the British system is diabolical, Sarah. Honestly, the British system, more people are leaving the UK Than been going there.

Entrepreneurs are leaving in droves. You can’t operate in the UK Anymore. It’s a totalitarian country. They’re jailing people. Even if you’ve got an opinion. Literally. There’s a US Guy, I can’t remember his name. He was blogging about the Israeli connection to the US and this war in Iran and all that kind of thing. And a lot of people would absolutely resonate with what this guy is saying. He arrives at Manchester airport about a month ago, he’s arrested, thrown in jail. He’s a U.S. citizen. He’s currently in jail because he had, he said a few things online in the United States and they’ve jailed him in the UK Well, I’m working with somebody from Ireland who, if he goes back to Ireland, he thinks he’s going to get killed.

I mean, the government has a hit out on him and he’s, he’s a U. S. Citizen. He was born in Ireland, but now he’s a U. S. Citizen and he doesn’t want to go anywhere near Ireland now. And because he blew the whistle on the corruption within. That’s part of the UK Right? Ireland is part of the UK it’s not England, but it is part of the UK system. And he blew the whistle on the corruption, the ship. Sheer level of corruption there. And so now he’s got a hit on him. He thinks if he goes back, he’s going to get killed.

You know, you couldn’t rule anything like that out. Honestly, it’s gone way too far. United States, this. I still think there’s a. There’s hope for justice, there’s hope for, you know, some integrity and some honor in the United States, other countries. Certainly the UK is gone. I mean, I’ve lived through it for 16 years battling against it. There’s dirty tricks, there’s blackmail, there’s bribery. They’ve got the judges in their pocket. We can’t get justice. If. If they don’t like what you’re doing, they try and jail you. I’ve experienced all of it. So, you know, in many ways, I wish I’d been operating in the United States because I think I would have probably had some, you know, the, the playing field would have been more even for me.

You, you would have gotten your ass handed to you, but you would have been better, I think, because if you go up against the baking cabal, it’s not easy, but you would have been able to pick up your boots and keep going. And they. There’s enough of a justice system where they don’t destroy you forever like they are there. But one thing that I’ve noticed the UK is doing is they’re extraditing Andrew Tate and they’re actually taking some of this child pedophilia seriously that they’re not taking seriously in the United States. So what is that? I mean, I look at UK for all their flaws, they’re actually doing some things when it to comes comes to pedophilia, I mean, and Prince Andrew was not looked at well.

So is. Are the people having some kind of degree of luck at pushing back against the establishment when it comes to pedophilia and some of this human trafficking, blackmail stuff? Or is it just they’re throwing them some crackers to keep them? I think that. Throwing them crackers, Quite honestly, Prince Andrew, I mean, wow. One of my. One of my clients, I used to run his family office, got involved in. With. With Prince Andrew in a business venture. I Mean, you’re talking darkness. It’s off the scale darkness. That went on that with Prince Andrew. Look at Jimmy Saville.

You know, Jimmy Saville was a massive celebrity in the UK 20, 30 years ago. You know, was supplying young kids to the Royal Family. Never. No one’s ever been jailed, no one’s ever been in jail. And what does that do to. What does that do to a population, to a civilization, when the people at the top are the worst? I mean, they’re, they’re worse. They’re serial killers on steroids. And they’re the ones that, you know, it’s one thing, serial killers might hurt adults, but when you’re essentially a serial killer towards the young, innocent children, I mean, I, it doesn’t get.

I don’t like to dwell on it because it’s so dark. In fact, I won’t talk about it that much on my show anymore, other than at a meta level like this, because it’s, it’s. I did so much coverage of it that I was like, enough. This is. I. It’s enough for people. But people need to understand that this exists. But what does it do to a population when that. And we talked about the Epstein class and it’s the same thing. What does it do to a population once they realize that this is what their leadership is about? Do they reject.

Is it the French Revolution? I mean, do we. Do people rise up and say, I, you are not anything that I want to respect. You need to go? Yeah, unfortunately, I think the reality is that unless they’re coming after you, most people don’t really care that much. You know, unless you’re being targeted, no one really cares. I mean, I’ve discovered this. I mean, I thought, is it self preservation? They don’t care. I mean, I think people, People live in their own world. Yeah. So if they’re, if their world’s not being affected directly, they’re quite happy. They carry on with whatever it is they’re doing.

It’s only when you start being affected by it, you’ve been affected by, you know, you know, the, the corruption and the censorship and all that I’ve been in. My world was turned upside down, destroyed. And I thought people would empathize with me. I thought people would say, hey, you know, this is, this is egregious. We’ll stand with you shoulder to shoulder. Most people run away from you because their world’s not being affected, and they don’t want to get involved in your world because you might bring them into the problem. So they actually Go the opposite way around.

So do you think Covid was a wake up call saying we are all got sucked up into this world and so the more you ignore it, you are going to get sucked up more? And in fact, I don’t even think they realize how much that they’re sucked up into it now. They’re just ignorant to how much they are. Because that’s why I asked about the Great Taking, you know, that, that, you know, the, the book by Webb, the Great Taking. We might all be involved intimately and they’re just ignorant to it. Well, a lot of people don’t want to know the truth.

They’re afraid of the truth. They really don’t want to know if their world is not being affected by what’s going on out there. If they’re doing their thing and it seems to be, you know, going okay for them. They don’t really want to know. And I’ve discovered this a lot in what I do. A lot of people just do not want the truth. They just, they’re afraid of it. The whole control system is about, you know, it’s a very low vibration control system based on fear. Now the truth can actually make people afraid. So a lot of people don’t want the truth because if you get the truth then you might be afraid of it and then you get dragged into it and it changes your whole trajectory, what you’re doing.

You become, you know, you can become paralyzed, Paralyzed, paralyzed. So a lot of people don’t want the truth. They know that there’s a lot of darkness, but they don’t want to look into it. And, but, but to be fair, I don’t think that they think they can do much about it. And so like, why should I dwell on it if I can’t make a difference? But there are things they can do personally to at least help themselves. And if we all knew it existed, we would reject it and say, hey. Or enough of us say hey, I don’t want to participate in.

I, I don’t want to support, support this. I can’t agree. My soul can’t support this totally. I mean, I, you know, I’ve been, I studying this subject for a long time. You know, I think the, the control system is, is programming people to believe they can’t do anything. There’s no point, there’s no point pushing back. But there’s nothing you can do that’s part of the control system. Well, I say there’s a lot of things you can do. You don’t have to go to war and that’s what I talk about on my webinar and my, in my interviews and things.

You don’t have to go to war with these guys. In fact if you go to war with them, you’re probably going to lose. And if you’re a real, if you’re a real shit stir and a real problem, they’ll come after you without any question at all. That’s right. In the uk. Quick break from the program to share with you something amazing. This is called sloop. It’s actually Slupp 332 but it’s been shortened to Sloop. And this thing mimics exercise. It seems too good to be true. I first shared this on my substack and I had Dr.

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So this is really taking the industry by storm. It’s actually not that expensive either. With my 10% coupon it’s about $80 for maybe a two month supply. If you take one capsule a day. If you decide to up it to two capsules a day because your dosage depends on what you want, then it’s a one month supply. But Dr. Diane recommends doing one capsule a day until your body gets used to it. You might not see the same level of results right away that the mice did, but your body can get to used used to it and see if it’s something that you really want to do.

If you are interested in this I will have a link below so you can try it yourself or go to sarah wessel.com under shop. Remember to use the code Sarah to save 10%. That’s right. That’s what I’ve learned. That’s why I say because I, I get a lot of intel into what I do and especially right now there’s a lot going on and people need to understand that, that this war, this worldwide war of factions, there’s globalist factions that are fighting each other and I’ve been getting a lot of intel Lately and I’m like, I don’t even want to know the names.

Please don’t give me the names. I’ll report on generally what’s going on and you guys can all deal with this in your intel communities. But I don’t even want to know the names because I don’t want to put myself, I’ll just report like a professional. And because I’ve been around the block too many times now that I’m like, I, I, I don’t even know if it benefits me or anybody to put the names out. But it does benefit authorities to know that something ex and you guys can go and deal with it, but then you can investigate.

But names aren’t necessarily the best thing for me to share. I mean, I’ve learned the hard way. I mean, I took them on, I took them in the courts, I took the banks, I took the regulators. I’ve, you know, I’ve gone into parliament, I’ve, I’ve lobbied. I’ve done everything that you could put on the list of things that you could do. None of it works. The only thing that works is being very peaceful and figuring out how to play the game of Monopoly better. And all the doorways then open up and you don’t have to go to war.

I’d say peace is absolutely peace and love is the way forward. No question about it. I like that general thing. And create something that’s peaceful and loving. Well, we can’t ignore, I think, the worst criminals that are out there. I think we need to protect the most vulnerable and do our best at the same time. Create solutions that are about peace and love. You have webinars that you do on an ongoing basis. I’ll have a link below if they want. I, you know, I can’t, I don’t know enough to endorse one way or the other, but I know enough to say, I, I think it’s important that people learn about it and make sure that they do their due diligence.

I think the more they learn, the better they are and more equipped. There’s a, there’s a system that’s been running for a long time and some, the very small percentage of the world population employ this system. Exactly how the money system works and that’s why they’re so affluent. That’s why they are doing very well. Playing a game of Monopoly. I teach people how to do that. I facilitate it for them. It’s about tax redirection. A lot of people will go, well, you know, I don’t pay that Much tax. So how can I redirect it? They’re wrong.

Nearly everybody on the planet that’s doing any banking at all, making bank payments, getting mortgages, getting loans, getting credit cards. What they’re actually doing is they’re putting their energy, their human energy into an artificial system. The banks operate as nominees. They’re trustees for human energy. And the banks pay taxes to the United States treasury for the use of our energy. That’s why I say it’s a tax farm, it’s a human tax bond. Those taxes are due back to the people. What I show people and I facilitate is how you redirect those taxes back, which a perfectly lawful way of doing it.

And that’s what’s interesting is it’s lawful. I’ve been hearing about this for, for years, since I started doing this. And you’re the first person that’s actually moving on it in a way that makes sense to me. I don’t. Again, I can’t fully endorse this. I think people need to do their own due diligence. But you’re the first one I’ve run across to make sense in this area. Other people made sense from a, and I’ve told you this many times, other people have made sense, but I didn’t see them actually implementing it in a way that was smart.

But your banking background gives you a different perspective. See, I come from a different background to most people that have ever tried to implement what I have been achieved. I come from a financial engineering background. You know, I, I built product, I designed solutions to complex problems. So when I started looking at this, this was, this is like, this is, this is my thing, right. You know, it’s like if you sat a concert pianist at a piano without the music, they just play. Yeah, this is what I do. This is my skill. And I started looking into the money system.

Now I was a money manager. I managed billions of pounds and I didn’t really know how the system worked. When I started looking into it deeply and it figured it all out. It’s like light bulbs were going on everywhere. It took me many years to figure all this out. Do you think that most people don’t understand? I mean, very few people understand how the system works. And as you teach people do, you see more and more people with light bulbs going off. I would be bold enough to say, Sarah, that I have never met anybody yet who understands how the money system really works.

Don’t the people who implement it do? I mean, there has to be the elite, the ones who benefit the most. Don’t they understand it or you’re saying they don’t even understand it. In every bank there might be one or two people that really understand how it works. In the United States treasury, which is the bankruptcy trustee of the United States, there’s a few people in there that will understand it. People like Trump probably understand it. Absolutely would be using what I know for sure, without any doubt in my mind. There’s very, very few people that know this stuff.

If you go all the way back, yeah, there’s Edward Mandel House, right, Who was President Roosevelt. He was advisor to Roosevelt. Back all the way back, way 100 years ago, back into the turn of the century, you had Edward Mandel House that got together with JP Morgan and the top bankers. They designed this system. He said over a hundred years ago, only one in a million will figure out how this system works. And even those that have figured it out won’t know how to have. Won’t know how to take advantage of it. Well, and that’s what I’m talking about that you’re the first one that I’ve seen.

And do you think that they’re allowing you to do that now? Do you think that if enough people started doing it that they would get nervous, that that would destabilize the system? No, because you see in the way that the system works, nobody loses. You know, a lot of people think, see the, the whole nature of commerce is someone wins and someone loses, right? Yeah. It’s like someone wins a court case, someone loses it in business, somebody makes a profit, somebody makes a loss. But in the money of account system, nobody loses because it’s all artificial.

So they wouldn’t care. You’re saying they won’t care? Yeah. So if you go ahead, if you look at every year, right, so the, the US the top investment banks, many of which I used to work with back in my financial services career, the Wall street crew, right, they pay between 50 and $100 billion of what’s called backup withholding taxes every year right now that is because they’re using human energy and they have a tax module called the 945 tax module. I can prove everything I’m talking about. It’s all in my research papers. They are nominees. So the banks are all debtors on a monopoly broad system, which is the entire system is operating in Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

All around the world, the whole monopoly board system is bankrupt and the banks are operating as nominees. They use the human energy. So when we sign up for a bank account and get A mortgage loan, credit card, or even make a bank payment. What we’re doing is putting our energy onto the monopoly board. So are they doing that on purpose, keeping it in a perpetual bankruptcy? Because it’s more controllable at that point, it’s a permanent bankruptcy. If you look at, if you look at the June 5, 1933 House Joint Resolution 192, the United States as a corporate entity is bankrupt and it will never be out of bankruptcy because the whole system is based on debt.

It’s a debt based system. Right. There’s nothing other than debt in the system. And the original creditors that control the money system, they set it all up so that it was perpetually in debt. All the governments are perpetually in debt. There is no money of substance. It’s just accounting ledgers. The United States treasury is the bankruptcy trustee for the whole monopoly board worldwide. That’s how the United States can put sanctions on China and Iran through banking. Yeah, because it’s all bankrupt and the bankruptcy trustee has the control of the debtors. So everybody who’s playing the game the monopoly is playing as a debtor.

The way that you redirect taxes is play as a creditor. So I’ve discovered how to operate as a creditor within this bankrupt system. And this is what people will learn in the webinars that you have. And I have a link below. They’ll learn how to pay off their mortgage with redirecting their taxes. They will go ahead. You can redirect $2 million a year now the, the Joint Committee on Taxation allow you to redirect taxes through a creditor entity up to $2 million a year. And it goes through their algorithmic system because the whole of the United States treasury runs.

It’s a huge database. It’s a massive data. I mean, you talk about big data. Think about how much data the United States treasury is managing. They’re not just managing US Citizens tax returns, it’s worldwide. Think about factor. Nearly every single financial services company in the world has got a report to the United States treasury under factor. Even my firm 25 years ago, we had to report what we were doing to the United States Treasure Group. Wow, that’s incredible. And we wouldn’t think that the United States treasury would be managing everything. That’s incredible to know that I have a lot to learn.

I, you know, I think being humble, getting the point where you’re like, okay, you think you know all this, but you really don’t. Once you start digging in, you say, I have a lot to learn. And I’m doing that in so many different areas. But you don’t really learn until you get to the point where you say I have a lot to learn. Right. I mean, the more you know, the more you realize you don’t know. Absolutely. I mean I, you know, I’ve got, I’ve got more to learn, but I’ve learned huge amount about how this system works.

It’s not a theory. I’m not writing, you know, theory papers. I’m actually doing it. We’ve had results. We were undermined last year not by the system. It’s quite interesting. A lot of people think, oh, that maybe the, maybe the system undermined, you know, that we weren’t undermined by the system. We were undermined by people within our, within our community who got very afraid because they, they tried to jail me. Right. So there is an open sentence out over my head. In the UK there’s a 12 month open sentence. I never served it. I came out of the uk, I’m in constructive exile.

So that’s what they really do to you. If you, if you really know how things work, if they can’t ruin your reputation and get rid of you, ruin your finances and get rid of you, then they try and jail you. Okay. Yeah, I’ve talked to him. Yeah, he, you know, when he has a different. He’s, he’s not censored right now and he’s. I don’t know why I’m not censored. He’s a great guy and I think he’s respected because. By many, because he didn’t succumb and he did what was right and that’s why they jailed him. But his went to the Supreme Court.

He talks about, he’s went to the Supreme Court and they said they’re usually should not be holding this guy. And that’s where it gets back to the United States still has, we still have some justice here and there was a reason we fought the Revolutionary war, but now we control all the finance. So it’s kind of a. Interesting dilemma that we’re in where we still have some freedoms, but yet we also control everything. So I don’t know about we. I’m the one, I don’t control anything. But at least we’re bringing them in a place that does.

We’re in the capital. What is Hunger Games? We’re the capital. But okay, so I’m gonna have a link below. Go ahead. Yeah, they’re more powerful than most people believe. But you know the irs, that people are afraid of the IRS because they think it’s, you know, that they’re going to get into deep trouble with taxes. Right. But actually the IRS is the bankruptcy trustee for the entire world. I talk a lot about it in my, in my webinars. I’ve put all my research papers out there. This is why the United States is so powerful. Because they run the money.

Yeah. And they run the bankruptcy. And that’s what it’s all about. If you, if you go into bankruptcy, the creditors run the debtors. Yeah. That’s the bottom line. Yeah. That’s what’s going on around the world. That’s how the United States can sanction all these sanctions. Anybody ever wondered how they do that? Because of the money system? Because they’re the bankruptcy trust too. And that’s where you become a creditor to your own tax generation and then you can get that paid. I mean. Yeah. The secret is not to say I’m a creditor is to actually set up a structure which is recognized by the United States treasury as a creditor.

Well, that’s, I mean, you don’t just say it, you have to do the actions that say it. Yeah. You actually got to structure it and that’s what we do. And then you can discharge your mortgage and then you can redirect taxes and you’re doing it completely lawfully. There’s no loopholes, there’s no backdoors. There’s no secret, you know, secret secrecy over it. I’m doing it completely openly. All my research papers are out there. You’re right. You’re just doing it. You are just out there, which is really interesting. I mean, guys, I’m the listeners, people are listening to this.

He really is just out there. And that’s why I’m fascinating by, fascinated by this. I’m like, okay, let’s all learn. Let’s see what’s really going on. And that’s what the freedom of speech is all about, is for us to learn. Let’s take advantage of it. If you don’t agree with it, talk about it. Let’s understand what you don’t agree. But this is out there for you to take advantage of and to learn. So I’m going to have a link to the webinar below. You are also going to do a webinar for my substack and that’s going to be on August 11th at, at 4:00pm Central Time.

So we’ll have that for people as well. I’m really fascinated on how this goes and, and how people respond to it. And thank you so much for joining the program. We’re going to dive into a lot more of this in the webinar we have on August 11th. And people also can use the links below and the link below and watch for themselves. Yeah, I mean it’s very popular and I have to warn people you’re not going to get it first time around because we’re all being right. You know, when you first come across this information, it doesn’t all absorb in.

You’ve got to remove a lot of pre programmed information you got to unlearn before you can learn. Unlearn it and then you can download it. But you can’t download it. You’ve got to shift some stuff out. So people come on my webinars, maybe five or six webinars before they start getting it and then they go, aha, wow, this is amazing. Or how did I not know this before? But you’re not really meant to know it and that’s the truth of it. Wow. Okay, well this is what it’s about. Freedom of speech, freedom of knowledge. And people are interested in learning about it.

I’ll have the link below. We’ll also have a webinar on August 11th and there’s, there’s nothing illegal about learning. So let’s do it and figure it out. Thank you so much for coming on the program and sharing your background.
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