CAN ANYTHING BE DONE ABOUT EMF?

➡ Dave Hodges, host of the Common Sense Show, discusses the dangers of electromagnetic fields (EMFs) and how to protect ourselves from them. He interviews Corey Hillis, a certified EMF specialist and president of EMF Solutions, who explains that while we can’t eliminate technology like cell phones and Wi-Fi, we can learn to deal with their risks. Corey emphasizes that EMFs can cause a range of health issues, from sleep problems to cancers, but also suggests that with proper protection, we can safely use technology. The show also mentions Noble Gold, a sponsor and a company that helps protect your finances.
➡ The text discusses the harmful effects of electromagnetic fields (EMFs) on our bodies, causing DNA and cellular damage. It suggests that reducing exposure to EMFs can increase cellular energy, aiding the body’s natural healing process. The text also mentions the difficulty in measuring EMF exposure due to its complex nature and the lack of awareness among medical professionals. Lastly, it touches on the potential impact of EMFs on brain functions like concentration and memory, though more research is needed in this area.
➡ Living near cell phone towers or high voltage power lines can lead to health issues like neurological problems and cancer due to radiation exposure. The radiation from Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and satellites like Starlink is also harmful. Starlink, with its high frequency and thousands of satellites, is particularly concerning as it covers more than 80% of the Earth. The radiation absorbed by our bodies from these sources causes what is referred to as ‘subatomic chaos’, leading to various health problems.
➡ The text discusses the harmful effects of too much calcium in cells and the imbalance of ions, which can lead to DNA damage. It explains how exposure to electromagnetic fields (EMFs) from devices like routers can double or triple calcium levels in cells, causing damage. However, the text also mentions that certain products can help restore balance to these cells. It also discusses the potential link between EMF exposure and increased rates of certain cancers, though it emphasizes that more research is needed to confirm this.
➡ The text discusses the potential dangers of radiation from devices like microwaves and cell phones, highlighting that safety guidelines may not be accurate or up-to-date. It also mentions that all cell phones exceed the FCC’s safety guidelines for radiation. The text further explores the potential effects of radiation on emotions and behavior, and the possibility of using specific frequencies for healing or harm. Lastly, it emphasizes that avoiding or blocking radiation is not feasible, suggesting the need for other solutions.
➡ The text discusses a product that helps protect against the harmful effects of electromagnetic fields (EMFs) from devices like routers and cell phones. Instead of blocking the EMFs, the product addresses the ‘subatomic chaos’ they cause. The product, which can be attached to various devices, works by aligning and harmonizing the chaotic forces of EMFs. The effectiveness of the product has been proven through various experiments, and it is available for purchase online.
➡ Corey Hillis, who became sick 20 years ago and couldn’t find a cure until he discovered a special healing technique, now offers a service to test your home for electromagnetic fields (EMFs). If you’re interested, you can get a free consultation and they’ll work within your budget to suggest the most important products to get. If you’re not satisfied, they offer a 60-day money-back guarantee. Despite starting as a small operation for their own clients, the positive feedback led to the growth of their company, which now has representatives across the country.

Hey, everybody, Dave Hodges here. I’m the host of the Common Sense show. We are the show that is freeing America one in slave mind at a time. Thank you so much for joining us. In fact, our show today is going to be about freeing your mind up, physically protecting you from the ravages of emf. And you go, oh, yeah, Dave, you’ve covered that before. You’re right. And it needs continued coverage because our message is not getting through at the level that it needs to get through. And we have Corey Hillis on remind you that we’re coming to you from the Noble Gold Studios.

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And Corey is the president of EMF Solutions, Inc. And he’s a pioneering holistic doctor, certified EMF specialist and trainer with decades of experience in protecting and healing people from the harmful effects of electromagnetic fields, or emf. And this includes WI Fi, Starlink, and other technological interferences. He’s the principal inventor and lead designer of EMF Solutions. Corey has developed groundbreaking methodologies that directly address the unseen dangers of emf. And Corey and I were talking before the show and he said, we’re not going to get rid of the cell phones. I mean, that’s, that’s not going to happen.

We’re not going to get rid of A lot of these technological advances that come with these dangers, we’re going to have to learn to deal with them. And he’s going to talk to us about the dangers and more importantly, what we can do. First time guest on the Common Sense Show. Corey, welcome to the show. Really glad to have you on. Fantastic to have you here. And you come highly recommended from a mutual acquaintance, my good friend cj. And she said, Dave, this, this will be a dynamite revelation of information and definitely, definitely will be. I’m not really sure where to start with this because I know agree with the cell phones and the like are not going anywhere.

Yeah, no, they’re, they’re certainly not. And I love starting here. I am not against the technology, so I’m not going to tell people, you know, let’s go ban 5G and stop the cell phone use and let’s get rid of WI fi and all this stuff. There are people out there that realize the dangers. Dr. Barry Trower is a great example. He was retired Secret service guy. He used, part of his job was to use EMFs as weapons. I mean when I say EMFs, I’m talking about stuff in the WI fi range that we use in our homes and schools.

That’s what, that’s what the ranges. He was using microwaves and radio waves as weapons. So he’ll tell you, holy cow, I know the dangers. He’ll list them out. Your jaw will drop when you hear half of this stuff. You can’t believe what’s covered up by this. It’s information not getting out, you know, freely to the public, as it should. And so most of those guys say because they know it’s dangerous, let’s avoid it. I don’t think we have to do that. You can have your cake and eat it too. I was one of the first people to go get my 5G cell phone.

One reason was because I want to make sure our products still fixed it because we were good on the 4G and the 5G. But second of all, like the technology is great. So I’m not knock knocking the technology. Almost everything that is Bluetooth, WI Fi and really harming you I believe can be fixed. And I have a five year old daughter, I let her use as long as we protect her from these things. That’s interesting. Well, let’s get into. In case someone’s not really familiar with some of the things that can happen to you, say like glioblastoma, what are some of the other things that can happen to people with regard to their vulnerability to 5G and things like that.

I really suggest people go, because if they’re brand new to the subject, go to a place called the Bio Initiative. Two words, back to back, no spaces, no dashes. Bioinitiative.org okay, if you add forward slash and then the word conclusions, you, you will be taken to a place that summarizes 1800 studies. Okay? That organization has over 4000 studies. Why do I like that organization? Because there’s a number of them listed on our website. They don’t sell anything. They don’t have any agenda there. Nobody’s funding them that has an agenda. They’re from all over the world. They’re from Australia, United States, Russia, Europe.

It’s members of environmental groups and scientists from around the world that got together many years ago and they’ve been studying this for a long time. And so it’s just raw data. If you want to see what’s. What can harm you. It’s chronic fatigue. They talk about all these things, chronic fatigue. They talk about having a hard time with memory and clear thinking. They talk about sleep problems, concentration. We covered low melatonin production when you’re sleeping, massive interference with and suppression of reproductive abilities. The immune system suppression can lead to tumors, cancers, Alzheimer’s, all of that stuff’s on the website.

And you’ll read a paragraph that summarizes, let’s say like a paragraph, say there’s 19 studies on this subject, two thirds of them are conclusive. And it’ll talk about leukemia and blah, blah, blah, kids being more affected, cardiovascular issues. I mean, it’s almost like you take the most common symptoms that people are experiencing today, chronic conditions. That’s exactly what EMFs have been proving, proven to do to people. You know, the only thing, and I’m going to ask you this, that I haven’t seen linked to EMF is, is insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes. Is there any link there that you’re aware of? Yes.

So there’s a mechanism. We now know that how the EMFs are actually affecting you and hurting you. Okay, that’s really big because the physicists for 50 years didn’t realize X rays were hurting us. Then they discovered they were, that then they were playing around with it for a long time, not realizing. Then they assumed X, the microwaves and radio waves from the wife, the little lower frequency of, of WI Fi, Bluetooth and all this radiation, well, that doesn’t hurt you like an X ray, so therefore it must be harmless. Well, now we know that’s not true at all.

And so I apologize. I Kind of went off track. But what was your question again about type 2 diabetes? Oh, yeah. So in studying this, what we realized is the Mechanism of how EMFs are hurting you is through the voltage gated calcium channels. And when calcium channels malfunction in your cell, it causes a host of events in the cell. Some type 2 diabetes can be linked to this. Now, I’m just quoting what I’ve read. We don’t have any internal studies on that, but that is. It could be. Not all type 2 diabetes for sure, I’m sure, but just ones.

Some are related to the calcium channels and that could be a link, is what I read. Okay, now that’s. That’s documented, right? The external research, apart from you? Yes, I certainly didn’t make that up. Okay. Well, it’s interesting because I was talking to someone else about this effect and we’re talking about Virginia Farver, and I just said, you know, I’ve heard it related to almost everything. Yeah, I don’t know about type 2 diabetes. And you just talked about that. I’m going to have to go research that on my own. But just about basically anything to do with the immune system.

Can I add one thing? So even if you don’t have symptoms, you don’t have sleep problems, you don’t think until you. A lot of times we fix a house, people don’t think they have sleep problems. And all of a sudden they say, oh, my gosh, I haven’t dreamt that, that well, that deep in years. I’d wake up before my alarm. Like, they realized they weren’t sleeping their best anyway. But even if you don’t have any of the symptoms I named and all the other ones I didn’t name yet, you’re getting DNA damage, you’re getting free radical damage in your cell.

These things are happening to you whether they snowball into symptoms now or later. That’s another. That’s another story. Is that going to lead to something down the road? Who knows? But you are getting that. And when we fix the EMFs or don’t be around them, which is near impossible now, basically what happens is your. Without all that DNA damage, your cells have more energy. And when your cells have more energy, it puts it to better use in another place. And so our bodies are really good at healing themselves. And I think a lot of the testimonials we get are just that we gave the body more cellular energy, more energy in general, and then it went and healed itself in some way that, you know, was amazing.

We are very conscious not to put anything related to any medical condition as a testimonial. On our website we have thousands of testimonials. Half the time I fix a house and everything in it. In somebody’s life we get a testimonial. If they’re sick, it’s way above half. How do you determine the danger? Let me stop you there for a second because you just brought up a really good point. When we test an environment and is what I basically heard, how do you go about testing, can you give us some of the parameters too? Well, so you can use the meter here.

It’s an EMF meter that measures how much radiation is where you’re sitting. I see that. Yeah. This is very limited and it’s a complicated. I’m happy to go through it because I know all the science on it, but it’s complicated. This is only one factor. For instance, the sun shines and you walk outside. Besides a little UV light and some things that you get too much of, the sun is not doing the same, what we call subatomic chaos and causing the, the calcium channel malfunction when you walk outside. That’s not happening because the sun is unpolarized radiation.

So you get about the same when you’re on your cell phone as the you do from the sun. The sun is a much higher frequency, which generally is worse if it’s man made. But the frequency coming off of man made radiation is polarizing. Polarizing radiation is causing the shaking and vibrating of molecules we call subatomic chaos which malfunctions the calcium channel on the cell which snowballs into all the effects. So you can’t just go off of a meter because there are other factors. We make digital waves, not analog smooth waves. You know, nature’s. Most of nature’s EMFs are like, look like this if you graph them out.

If you graph out WI Fi, Bluetooth, smart meter, all this stuff, it looks like this. It may go up and down the same amount for the same frequency and the same, you know, amplitude. But the jaggedness when you ma graph it out causes subatomic chaos or one of the factors that does and snowballs into our effects. So it’s a very different thing, one kind of radiation to another. So the meter is one way you measure. Muscle testing is another way. So a lot of holistic practitioners out there, chiropractors, almost all of them, learn this in chiropractic school.

Acupuncturists, holistic medical doctors use this. Muscle testing is a great way to quickly analyze a situation. Otherwise you have to test humans. So it’s complicated. So we have 10 different tests, including the best one ever done on human cells, to show that the damage is happening and then the damage is gone after our products are there. That’s quite a regimen here. And it’s a test that I’m not hearing doctors doing. If you went to a neurologist, would they think to check for this? No. This is off the map. When you go in with symptoms that could be associated with emf, the average doctor or person, or holistic, even person, they just don’t think that EMS are the cause, and they chase all these things.

And that’s why chronic fatigue is serious and going on and on for a lot of people. And it’s our number one testimonial. Better sleep, more energy is all over our website. I put about 100, 150 testimonials on there, but that is, like, very common. You said something a few minutes ago I want to go back to. And I get to draw upon my previous experience as a psychologist. You basically talked about how adaptable the brain is and dealing with challenges. And that’s kind of my interpretation of what you said. And the word neuroplasticity came into being, and you said it kind of prevents the brain from.

From making these adjustments. That was my takeaway from what you said. You’re. This makes a lot of sense to me because if we have a deficiency in one area of the brain, in a highly functioning brain, other parts of the brain can pick up that function. And it’s called neuroplasticity. Have you seen any studies that talk about the fact that neuroplasticity becomes damaged? Because it’s kind of like the Star Trek ship Enterprise. The shields are down now. You’re vulnerable to a lot of things. I. I haven’t seen studies on that, but what I mentioned was concentration difficulties, which is like, very common.

And also a testimonial we get from a lot of people feeling calmer, feeling more energy, having better memories, thinking more clear. But I haven’t seen studies on that in particular, but they’re. They’re probably out there. I haven’t read all the studies. I mean, literally, there’s over 10,000 studies. I heard there’s over 20,000 if you count the military studies. That’s what I’ve heard and papers. So this is more studied than smoking being bad for you. And we know, we all know what happened to smoking industry. They swept that under rug for a long time, decades. That’s kind of what’s happening here is because there’s.

Well, there’s two problems. One is there’s a lot of money behind the products. And two is the physicists and the electrical engineers still don’t, they don’t think it’s harmful. The biologists and the biochemists are doing, the studies are going, hey, look at the effects. The studies are conclusive here. This being around this radiation is causing xyz. But the physicists need proof. And until you marry the two disciplines, they’re not going to figure this out. And there’s no money into the physicists and electrical engineers figuring this out because it took them again 50 years to discover that we were ripping electrons off atoms with X rays.

X rays are trillions of waves per second, oscillating power. Billions of waves a second is what we call WI Fi, Bluetooth and all the stuff we’re playing with. So it doesn’t do the same thing. But unless you know what happens in a cell that a voltage gated calcium channel, how that works, which if you’re a physicist, that’s biology and biochemistry, you don’t know what that is. So unless you know how that works, you got to marry these disciplines together so they can kind of figure out the whole whole way through and then if that malfunctions, heck, what happens after that.

And I refer to Dr. Martin Paul and other people that can tell you when that happens. The free radical damage happens, the DNA damage happens, nitric oxide imbalances. And he says that that stuff I just named and some other stuff he talks about can lead to all of the symptoms that EMFs have, all the studies. So there’s a cumulative effect. Yeah, I hear that there’s a cumulative effect on this, and I’ve seen that too. But I’m going to tell you what you said earlier though, that relates to. Neuroplasticity is important when you talked about difficulty concentrating frontal lobe activity.

But we also know in brain damaged people, the hippocampus can pick it up. And if EMF is negating these transfer possibilities in the brain, that makes the brain more vulnerable to a direct assault. It’s kind of like bringing in reinforcements to protect the brain. When you have neuroplasticity, I imagine it, imagine it pretty much is. I try to stay away from things that I don’t have, you know, direct studies to back up when I talk. It’s because I got, you know, I have studies, I’ve, I have people that quoted this. I have things that I can say.

I’m really careful so that people can’t come to me and say, hey, prove that testimonial. Hey, prove that thing you said. Hey, prove that your products protect. Hey, prove that you are fixing the calcium channel problem in the cells. We’ve, we’ve done the science, we have that stuff. So, you know, when you ask me a question I don’t have the direct proof of, I’m just going to kind of stay away from it. I guarantee you I’m going to go look for this because just based on what you said with some of the symptomology, I guarantee a neuroplasticity is involved.

The one thing that I wanted to also talk about was the cumulative effect. And this is something that I really can’t get my mind around because I can’t find good data. But it would just seem to me the more you’re around that kind of an environment, like if you live near a cell phone tower, that’s got to be bad for you. And my friend Virginia Farver says there are studies that show higher incidence of people that have those cell phone towers near them or if they put them on school campuses, elementary kids will develop neurological problems much more frequently than the general population.

Have you come across those kinds of things as well? Sure. There’s cancer clusters and all kinds of things that they find when you’re around high voltage power lines, normal ones are minor. With the really high voltage power lines are many, many times more powerful than your average one in the backyard. That’s also radiation, but it’s 60 waves per second or hertz, compared to billions of waves a second, which is your router and cell phones and all the WI Fi, Bluetooth. So it takes a lot more of the electricity to cause the same amount of damage as your, as this stuff.

But even that can do it. And no study’s been around a long time. The bioinitiative used to study electric power lines and electricity was the main. That was most of the studies before, like let’s say 2005, 2002 maybe. And then since like the, the 2000s and especially since now almost every studies on the WI Fi, Bluetooth, because that’s where most of our problems are, you know. You know, a lot of people aren’t going to, not a lot, but some people try to counter this by not having cell phones. I think that minimizes the risk to some degree, but I don’t think it protects them very much.

What do you think? No, you’re, you are not getting away from this anymore. Exactly. So you mentioned Starlink. You could be in the Rocky Mountains. And that’s hitting you 80%. More than 80% of the Earth is hitting. Being hit by starLink. They have 7,000 satellites. There’s a map you can go to. If I can find that. I don’t have it written down right now. I gotta get that handy. But there’s a map. Maybe I can pull it up on my phone and tell your listeners. Listeners to go to. It shows you their grounding ground stations, and it shows you where all the satellites are at all times.

There’s thousands of them spread all around the Earth Now. Now there’s 29 companies in addition to Starlink that’s working on or having satellites up there also. But StarLink has over 7,000 satellites. I believe right now they’ve launched over 9,000. And the problem with Starlink, there’s a couple, couple problems. One is they have the highest frequency of any 5G frequencies that’s being used on the ground that I’ve ever heard. So they have 70 billion waves a second. So your router is now going up to 6 billion. It used to be 2 and a half and 5. Now they’re making them up to 6 billion or 6 gigahertz.

So to go to sick from 6 to 70 is a really big jump with a lot more subatomic chaos and a lot more problems. The ground stations use up to 100 gigahertz. Nothing else on the ground or that I’ve ever heard of comes anywhere close to that. Maybe military is using stuff we don’t know about. So that, that’s great because it’s a lot of information, but it’s also going to cause a lot more of our problems. That’s one problem. The second problem is, and this is what nobody thinks about, we figured out how these EMFs are hurting us and they’re not hurting us directly.

And that’s why everybody has not figured this out except for us. We found the missing link, but the only place to find it, it’s not the EMF itself, it’s the emf, once it gets absorbed into material, becomes a different form of energy, because energy doesn’t disappear. And we call that subatomic chaos. It becomes thermal heat. It becomes a shaking and vibrating, all kinds of things we call subatomic chaos. That’s the stuff that causes our reaction. Okay, so it’s the absorbed radiation that’s causing our reaction. So when you fire something down from 350 miles away from a satellite, which is Starlink, and it’s coming at a high frequency and almost it’s, it’s got a lot of attenuation, which means it’s, it’s being.

Most of overwhelming majority is being absorbed as it travels. Because it’s very high frequency. Only a tiny speck gets here. So 99.9 plus percent of that energy that fired in a laser beam at you, because that’s how it works. If you have a phone, if you have a satellite disk, if you have a car picking up on that, it’s a laser beam from that satellite to you. So it fires straight at you at light speed. This energy 99.9 is gone. More than that, only a little bit gets here. That’s all you need. You got your Internet.

And the scientists say, well, it’s not bad because I’m. I’m looking at my meter and only a little radiation showed up. Well, what happened to the rest of the energy? They never asked that question. Energy doesn’t disappear, right? Changes forms. So they ignore all the energy that changed to a different form. And they just look at that little speck that showed up and they say, oh, it’s, it’s not a problem. I’m saying it’s a huge problem. It’s the biggest problem. Because if I’m getting the same amount of radiation from something far away, that means more of it got absorbed on the way.

As it’s traveling light speed, I’m getting more subatomic chaos from that than if I had the same amount of radiation from a router across the room. And that’s what’s the problem with Starlink. And they don’t know it because they don’t know how this is hurting people. And that’s the big problem we’re facing. Because engineers, like a relative of mine who is a genius IQ working on this stuff, he has no idea. He’s just making it. They’re taught, they’re trained. Hey, it’s harmless. Just go do it. And they only look at this reading. They don’t look at the effects.

They don’t look at anything else. And so that’s the big problem about the starling. More than, say, cell towers, even in other stuff. Let’s go back to the cellular effect for a second. I’m trying to get my mind wrapped around that. You said the calcium channel for the cell. Okay, can you talk a little bit more about that and the effects that come out of that? Sure. So your cell membrane. And by the way, you said doctor in the beginning. I was never a medical doctor. I was a holistic practitioner. Did a series of Things just to clarify, but the membrane of your cell is kind of like that game you play with the round peg and the square peg and the triangle, right? Like when something comes to the cell, it doesn’t fit through a door unless it has the key.

So one door fits magnesium, another one fits an amino acid, and another one fits sodium. And one of them fits a double ion calcium molecule. Okay, so calcium flies in and out of the cell all the time. Double double ions mean it has a charge, two positive charges. So it is constantly helping the cell in lots of ways, including changing the charge of the cell, which is important if it’s supposed to do work. It’s negatively charged compared to the environment outside the cell. So this door lets in calcium or not, and it knows when to open, it opens when it needs to, it lets in the calcium, then it closes, saying, oh, got enough.

So when EMFs are around, and we’ve shown this, I mean, it’s been shown at least 20 sometimes before a lab did it with our products, but we had a lab do repeat the same thing. So when a router’s nearby, the door malfunctions and it’s open, like all the time, perhaps. And so it’s open, letting in way too much calcium in your cell. And if that happens, the charge of the cell is way too negative. And if it does the opposite with certain calcium channels or different types on different cells, some of them malfunction where it won’t open when it’s supposed to.

Now it doesn’t have enough calcium. Now it’s too positively charged. So those are two, two of problems I’d even name in addition to all the other stuff in the cell that the biochemists talk about. So that’s what’s happening. It’s messing up when it’s supposed to open and when it’s supposed to not open. And that’s how the calcium channels are. Are messing with us. It’s the absorbed radiation shakes and vibrates and it fools that calcium channel into opening when it’s not supposed to. Make sense. Yeah, it does make sense. Is there a conductive effect that comes out of that cell, though, that shows up in some physically manifestation, I’m not sure exactly what.

Okay, in other words, you’ve got the illegitimate message that’s been absorbed into the cell because it had the right frequency to get in? Is there a contamination effect that comes out of when that cell is affected like that? Well, again, I leave it up to the Dr. Martin Pauls and such of the of the world to explain all the nitric oxide imbalances, the free radical problems, and the DNA damage that comes from having that too much calcium in the cell and too much imbalance of ions and the charges being all out of whack. Now, the good news is when you, when you either.

I mean, we showed our products on that router in that exact experiment, when the calcium channels were doubling calcium in a short time around a router. Human. And we did it on human cells, by the way, a lab in Texas. So they showed the same problem. They showed cells, they measured the calcium levels in the cells. They put a router nearby and they doubled or tripled. And a couple cells went reduced because that’s what happens. And then we introduce our products and everything went back to normal. Okay. In a short, a short period of time. And it seems like this, this fixes itself.

This, this rebalances itself real quick. So if you either stop being around the emfs or you use our products, because we’ve proven that, it seems like that problem fixes itself pretty quick. Okay. Now, long term, if you’ve had DNA damage, we call that aging, Right? Because that’s. You don’t want to get too much DNA damage over too much time. We get it every day. We’re supposed to be able to fix it, but you don’t want it in ginormous loads because you might not fix it all. If you don’t fix it, you wear down, you age, you have health issues.

Yeah, that involves the telomares, which is about cell life and cell length. Exactly. They typically last about seven years. You know, it’d be really hard to do a study, though, to measure pre and post, because you can’t get away from this crap. Unless you went to some remote part of the planet that didn’t have Starlink or something like that. Well, we do. We did human cells, and we tested genetically identical human cells. So we did like liver cells, breast cells, colon cells, fibroblast cells. We did different kinds of cells. And some of the cells aren’t reacting to EMFs, by the way, but some of them have huge reactions to emf.

So it depends on the cell that kinds of calcium channels. So certain cells are having this, this damage and these problems inside. That’s why it’s affecting us in certain ways. That’s really profound. So what parts of the body then would be most affected by EMF exposure? Well, we got to test more to be definitive to know which it is. But it seems like L channels, L calcium channels, which are like muscle cells, which are a Lot in your heart, your muscles, fibroblast skin cells, which are very similar. These seem to have a drastic increase in calcium.

So in other words, the. The channel is opening and staying open too long, so more calcium rushes in. And so the breast cells were the opposite. They reduced levels of 85%. The calcium levels reduced 85% in breast cells. So I’m not going to medically talk, you know, what can happen. I just kind of point to those guys that do. I, I just, I keep. I keep my science into, you know what, we’re fixing the problem, and I’ll let the. Let everybody else figure out. Figures out, you know. Yeah. What that means and stuff. But we’re basically fixing that problem.

So the calcium channels aren’t messing up anymore. Wow, that’s definitely proven that. Amazing. You mentioned the breast. And we know what’s happening to those rates of breast cancer. Yeah, I think. I wonder if that’s related. And I. And that’s how I got to say, you know, you may not be able to prove that because of. It’s so omnipresent, but I’ll tell you what you could look at is as breast cancer rates go up and EMF exposure goes up, there’s a correlation. Not cause and effect, but a correlation effect. And it could be very well tied to that because we’ve had an exposure to certain types of cancers in our society here in America.

That’s no secret. Oh, yeah, that’s published data. That’s one of it. Yeah, that’s one of the big ones. Our diet, our processed foods. I mean, this is stuff that’s all being linked into this too. That’s why it’s hard to isolate these five factors. And I appreciate how cautious you are in terms of naming caused effect, because that’s really hard to do because we’re being. It kind of reminds me that movie network where Peter Finch is playing Howard Beale and he says, I know the air is not fit to breathe and the water is not fit to drink.

And he goes on that ramble. And I’m just thinking it’s kind of like the environment we’re living in right now. And this is just one more element. This is a ginormous invisible elephant in the room. This isn’t like one more like, hey, gmo and all the other things. Let me. Let me tell you a couple of studies that are out there. The European Union paid 3 million euro for 12 different institutions across Europe to participate. I say that because it’s not like one guy in his lab that you can Go, oh, he’s a wacko and he did wrong.

Like 12 institutions are participating in this and an agreement. They said how much DNA damage was happening from this compared to chest X rays. They don’t do the DNA damage the same way, but they both do DNA damage. And people aren’t even going to believe what I’m going to say. It’s called a reflex study. It happened 2007, I think it is, and the European Union paid for it, and they knew the result. And as a result, a lot of European countries made some changes to this stuff. We didn’t. So they, they said 24 hours on a cell phone.

And that’s, that’s not today’s 5G cell phone. 24 hours on a cell phone was equal to 1600 chest x rays worth of DNA damage. 24 hours on a cell phone WAS the same as 1600 chest x rays worth of DNA damage. You can see the pictures. They show the assay method where you can see the strand breaks, you can see smears. That’s when, you know, the train breaks. So that’s the estimation that this study and 12 different institutions came to. That’s a lot. That’s. That’s jawbreak. That’s jaw dropping. Henry Lai in 1997, or eight out of Washington State or University of Washington, one of those two, because I get him and a couple other guys mixed up.

He’s one of the first that showed DNA damage from cell phones. That’s the late 90s. That’s when they were first coming out. So this is not a new thing. And there’s a lot of studies showing it, but that’s the only one that showed the amount. The US Government did the most expensive study on cell phones ever, $30 million. They created an organization and they studied 2G and 3G on phones for a decade. And they just got done a few years ago, 2018, they finished okay. And they didn’t even use actual cell phones again. Actual cell phone radiation is very jagged and chaotic.

They used the same frequencies, and they use. Almost all these studies, they use smooth. You know, it’s called a signal generator where they just make the same frequency and the same amplitude and it just, it’s, it’s not the same damage. So they use the weakest thing possible way under what actual cell phones use. They still came up with unanimous agreement in their study, the National Toxicology Program, it’s called saying that rats and mice were getting tumors and cancers. Okay, Especially male rats. And so I can go on and on. I can talk about The California Department of Public Health, their studies, they showed that cell phones were familiar with those.

Yeah, and so you said. So I want to go back to one thing you said, so we don’t lose the point. You said the Europeans made some alterations based on their research that we didn’t. Can you tell me what they did? Oh, I mean, like, the French National Library wouldn’t allow WI fi in it. Brussels wouldn’t allow 5G. It’s like a city that says 5G is not allowed here. There’s a lot more knowledge and different things that have changed. So there’s like, banning of this stuff in certain areas. Some countries banned WI fi in schools or near, or having big towers near schools.

So there was some of that going on because of this study and some other stuff. Our FDA and FCC measure what they think is safe and not safe. So the FDA came up with something in 1994 based on one study in the 80s, and that’s how they determined how much of this microwave radiation is safe or unsafe. They’ve not changed it since. That’s before cell phones. That’s before. Really, Microwaves were popular. You know, they’re. We just started having microwave ovens, and so they came up with this. They’ve never touched it since. They say that 10 million microwatts per meter squared is safe as long as you’re under that.

So products like microwave ovens can make. Can heat your food and put holes in the front so you can see it. Meaning tiny photons, the smallest unit of light and energy is flying out at you from the microwave because they put holes in the front because it’s still below the 10 million mark that they say is safe. And you’ve got documentation on that. That’s incredible. It’s over 10 million. I. I did not know that this measures up to 2,000. So if 10, if 10 million is the safety guideline, why are there meters that only go up to like 2000? That’s crazy.

So now this meter will max out on a cell phone immediately. The bioinitiative people, based on thousands of studies, have, have concluded they used to say 30, now they say 6. So it’s hysterical. When you’re over 6 microwatts per milli per meter squared. Okay. They see biological effects in their studies, they said, and kids are more affected. So it’s even lower. For kids, the number is six, not 600 6006. FDA says 10 million. I mean, there’s such a difference between what scientists that aren’t getting paid are telling you versus the FDA. Which hasn’t updated their information since 1994.

It’s, oh my, I, I, wow, that’s negligence. Federal funds and they haven’t done anything in 30 years. That’s negligence. And here’s the FCC came along because they were like, okay, cell phones are bad. They kind of got their, their hand forced. So they said, we got to study cell phones. FCC is the ones that divvy out the frequencies, sell them to everybody publicly. So, you know, if you’re a cell company, you can buy a frequency you own that you can make a cell phone and send the calls to that frequency. And the FCC came up with a different way of rating it.

I like the way they rate it, but they’re still rating it way, way, way, way, way too high. They, they rated on a specific absorption rate. It’s called sar. Instead of the amount of radiation, which is useful, they’re now doing how much does it heat you? So your microwave oven heats your head with 2 and a half and 5 gigahertz. Sorry, 2 and a half gigahertz. 2.45 to 2.5 gigahertz. That’s your microwave oven. It shakes and vibrates molecules. It causes rotational spin of molecules. They smash into each other, creates friction and heat. It’s kind of like taking a mini hammer and bashing your food two and a half billion times a second to heat it up.

That’s basically what you’re doing when you microwave food. Your router is, guess what, two and a half billion waves a second. So your router is basically a microwave oven with no walls on it. Okay. So when you put a cell phone to your head, the SAR rating is from the FCC is how much does this heat your head? Like a microwave ovens heating your food by shaking and vibrating little molecules and smashing them into each other. 1.6. They say if this is over 1.6, they consider it not too much heating of your head. Yeah, yeah. What’s the number? And this is.

I have to finish with this. Everybody in the audience is listening. Has a cell phone that’s rated over 1.6. Every single cell phone is over the FCC safety guidelines, all of them. And when you sign your contract, the little words that you never read say, as soon as you touch your, your touch screen, it’s called a touchscreen. Right. Most people are going to touch it. So as soon as you touch your phone, you’re instantly over the safety guideline. That even is way too high. I think that the FC FCC made. Wow, that’s amazing. I want to tell you briefly about.

It’s fixable. So that’s the good news. I own one. I love it. I love cell phones. I love the technology, I love, you know, my chat GPT and the information. I’m watching a movie. How old is this actor? Bam. I mean it’s great. You know, there’s another effect, Corey, that I want to introduce here that does not get discussed as far as I know. And I don’t pretend to know all the research, I don’t. But I used to show this to my psycho, my, my co ed psychology students. 1961, a guy named Jose Delgado who will later go to work for the CIA.

He fought a bull, but he didn’t use a cape. He used electronic transmitter and he transmitted an electrical message that neutralized the aggressiveness in the bull’s emotional center of the brain called the limbic system. And then he was at Yale for four years and he was treating epilepsy and other things like that. He disappears and goes to work for the CIA until 2011. We’ve known about frequency effects on emotions and behavior for over 60 years. It’s documented. But I don’t hear anything coming out of the here on things like cell phones or routers that says this is mood altering or behavioral altering.

Are you aware of any studies that show this? I mean there are studies on depression and anxiety that come out of MF exposure for sure. You can go on bioinitiative and they talk about that stuff too. Okay, good. But you’re talking about something different. So I’m talking, I’m saying that all, all lower frequency radiation and I haven’t tested it, but theoretically should be also X rays doing this indirect damage as well. Theoretically, but all the lower frequencies, whether it’s 60 waves a second or a billion waves a second, which is a phone call or two and a half, five or six billion waves a second, which is WI fi and Bluetooth, everything.

All of that creates the subatomic chaos when, when photons smash into particles and all of that subatomic chaos creates like the, the snowball effect into the calcium channel problem and all those. Now you’re talking about something different. You’re talking about a specific frequency that can induce specific things in living things. So that’s a whole nother issue we aren’t addressing. We’re not going there. That’s not what our products are for. So if somebody had it, we’re not blocking frequencies. So if somebody was like you know, using a frequency to heal you or hurt you, our products probably would have no effect either way.

Yeah. Anger, depression, happiness, all have different frequencies as we’re finding out in the research here. And it’s leading to different modalities of treatment. Bioacoustics is one that’s arisen. I mean it’s a first cousin to what you’re talking about. That’s why I’ve not seen the crossover of research. It’s interesting. I think somebody needs to look at it. They are biofeedback. Yeah. And you know, bio resonance back. Exactly. And, and we. Since the 70s. That’s, that’s really interesting. But you know, we’re also getting increased solar radiation from the sun and I’m sure that’s having an effect as we’re in a really bad sun cycle now.

The flares are gonna be a problem. You know, the solar flares, they’re going to be a problem for us. They, they affect us. But regular solar radiation is going to have a very minimal effect, at least in the way that we’re talking here. Now, too much UV light is a whole nother story. Like if you get too much UV light that can do damage in and of itself. And if you get too burnt in the suntan, that can, you know, that can do damage on you. But the, the method that all this radiation is hurting us via the calcium channels and you know, causing the DNA damage and the free radical damage in your cell and leading to all this stuff, which is an overwhelming majority of every, all the damage we’re getting from this stuff.

That’s generally not going to happen very much from natural frequencies. Okay. Natural frequencies, they’re unpolarized most, mostly and they’re not going to give us much, much of that problem. So that’s the good news. I’m glad how you’re marrying these ideas here. It’s interesting. Let’s talk about prevention or let’s say mitigation might be a better term. What can people do? What do you help people do? Well, you have to be really careful how you address this because it used to be you could, like you said, you could unplug your electric meter at night, turn off your router at night, keep your cell phone far away from you, and these would be good things.

But now you’re bombarded with so much, it’s ridiculous. If people get on antennasearch.com it’s. There’s no site that requires all cell towers to be on any, any map. But this has the most. And when I was in San Diego, you could, you could see that there were hundreds of antennas within two or three miles of my house and most people will see 52, hundreds of antennas just within a couple miles of them. So to get to think you’re going to turn off your stuff and get away from the radiation is crazy. Then you go to Starlink and look at their map.

You’re getting doused every day with a ton of radiation. Even if you live in the darkness in your house and have no technology. So avoiding it is just not an option anymore. Blocking it is not an option either. I just want to like put this out before we even go to what we’re doing. If I block the radiation, my cell phone doesn’t work anymore. If you want to block the radiation on your router, just wrap it in aluminum foil a few times. You’ll have no Internet and the radiation will be blocked and it won’t be hurting you.

But you. But why have a router, right? So blocking it, it doesn’t make sense. Well, we don’t have to block it. What we do is we address that second domino. So you got the EMF traveling along. It smashes into the wall over here. It creates subatomic chaos that conducts really well through solid material, especially through metal. That gets to vibrating around my body, the seat I’m sitting in. And that vibration causes reactions in me, not to mention the radiation that hits me directly and then gets absorbed in me. So that’s the problem. Our products are addressing that subatomic chaos, not the emf.

So you can have your technology, the phone works and our products on the back of it addressing the subatomic chaos aspect with the natural material. So this little chip that we tape on the back of the phone, underneath my case, there’s a different one for an iPhone because they put magnets in it and messes how this one works. But this chip is not blocking radiation. It is addressing that second domino we call subatomic chaos. It’s working in a way that no other product out there works because they don’t know what’s going on yet. And this is all hard to hear.

It’s easier to see in a short video on our website because we kind of explain how this process happens and how our products are working and stuff like that. But that’s basically what we do. I put a box on my house. This goes on a smart meter or electric meter. It’s a 4 inch box. This represents a pipe that may be going right into your electric meter. This box is going to protect you from everything outside your house. Cell towers, starlink scatter poles, your neighbor’s WI fi, your smart meter, so on. So that’s the biggest, most important product there is.

There’s multiple products that I wear when I’m not home or in my office. There’s personal protection products like this little skinny credit card size device. We have cool ones for kids and adults that are little bands that you wear. My daughter’s never left the house without it, except for one once or twice where we forgot messed up. And there’s things that will attach to your WI fi router. Little clip we call device chip that goes on your router. Something that plugs into your car and protects you when you’re driving and you’re everywhere in your car. Something you plug in at your office into the, into the wall.

So that we have kind of a handful of products that can protect just about everything in your life. Let me make a guess here about these products. Do they interrupt the signal as it arrives at the calcium channel of the cell? No. Okay, how does it work? Well, it’s proprietary. We have patents pending. I will never finish because then everybody will see it and China will see it and gladly steal it and then I can’t sue them and then I’m out of luck. Right. So, okay, but I give an analogy. So if you have, let’s say every EMF has an electrical and a magnetic component to it.

Electrical wave that oscillates like this as a traveling at you and a magnetic wave that travels perpendicular foreign. Let’s say, just let’s take a, take a hypothetical. If you have magnetic forces that are shaking randomly in all different directions, all different intensities that would be chaotic. Okay. If you took a magnet and you put it in that environment, the magnet would want to align those forces instead of, you know, so if I was, you know, an omniscient observer, a cell or voltage gated calcium channel or something, and this doesn’t apply to this exactly, but you would pay attention to the magnet aligning forces.

You would ignore the smaller forces of the chaotic movement because we put a magnet there that would harmonize the area. And so that’s kind of how we are. We use the word harmonize. We are aligning and harmonizing the chaos. So that’s kind of an analogy on magnets. If a magnet was all you needed and it worked, I would never have gotten a company in the first place. So. But I’m telling you, that’s a really good analogy. But a magnet does partially protect you from emfs. It partially helps if you wore a magnet in your back pocket only that would partially protect you from EMFs, because there is a magnetic component to EMFs.

Okay. I’m just wondering how you’re gonna. You said you have patents pending. Yes. Okay. Because they, they make you demonstrate how something works. Can you maintain the proprietary nature of the technology and still get the patent approved? Can I maintain the what? In other words, you’ve got a proprietary product here. In other words, you’re not going to share this with the world so they can’t copy it and steal it from you. Right. Can you protect that yet? Demonstrate to the patent office how it works? I don’t think so. You have to explain how it works. Yeah.

You’re done. But I can prove it works because we have 10 different experiments, we have most experiments on people. You know, one of my. One of the favorites that people enjoy is when you prick your finger, you put it on a Microsoft microscope slide and you immediately look at the red blood cells in your blood and you can see what they look like. And then you try it again after two minutes on a cell phone or under big power lines or we’ve done it standing in front of your smart meter outside, and the blood looks completely different.

There’s agglutination where they’re all sticking together. There’s other stuff going on that I try to medically not don’t comment on because again, I’m trying to stay away from the medical stuff. But you can see visually videos on our website of what happens. And then you put our product on the phone and you. We have people get on a phone call for two minutes, prick their finger, look at it on our video. They stay on the phone call, they put our product on, and then they do it for two minutes, prick their finger, and then they take it back off, on, off, on, off.

And you can see the blood getting messed up, clearing up, getting messed up, clearing up, back and forth. It just takes two minutes. I’ve never done it less. I’ve done two and three minutes. It may happen in 30 seconds, a minute, I don’t know. But it happens pretty quick. That’s amazing. I’ve never considered this, that part of it. This I know about the court documents that, you know, Virginia Farver and others were a party to in a class action suit. And I was familiar with some of the science they did, but I don’t recall them doing something like this.

Oh, we have some neat experiments. The best one, like I said, is testing, testing human cells and the calcium levels on different cells. And we didn’t use a signal generator. We put Them a foot from a router, WI fi router, real life EMFs. And they got real messed up quick. And then we put our products on. And by the way, our products. The first experiment, we did a smaller number. The second time we did it, we did so many thousands of cells that our probability function is 0.0001, the perfect probability function. In other words, our products absolutely work in doing what I say they’re doing.

You know, you only need 0.05 to show efficacy. Yes. And I’m 4.00. And I asked her, like, Dr. Vita, Dr. Masvida, but she goes by Dr. Vita for short for you get to know her, Dr. Vita. I said, why wasn’t it 0.0000? And she said, because it’s not possible. In this type of study, 0.0001 was the best possible probability function. And that’s, that’s what you guys got. And I’m like, that’s awesome. And this is a person that has published many cancer studies in top medical journals. She has thousands of citations, which means other researchers quote her work.

She has quite a name in the research world. She’s putting her name on this study. She has no interest in our company whatsoever. Never did. But I tell you what, after the study, she now has for her and her family, our products. That’s, that’s, that’s true. I’d say that’s a pretty good endorsement right there. That really is. So how do people find out more? Go to EMF home test dot com. From there you can get to our website, but that’s a nice landing page because it offers a free home test or a free consultation. So if you fill out the free home test form, if we have a rep that’s near you, they will come to your house.

They, they bring three different meters. This tests the WI fi, higher frequencies, WI fi and radio waves. But they’ll bring us some to test dirty electricity and, and one for regular electricity. And they’ll test it to show you what your levels are compared to what the experts say is too high and whatnot. It’s cool because you get to see what’s in your own home, in your own bedroom, what’s coming off of your actual cell phone. And then you’ll go, wow, this is not made, made up. So if we don’t have somebody close enough to drive to you, then they’ll just do a consultation for free with you, answer all your questions.

If you have a budget, you want to get it done, they’ll work with your budget and tell you what’s the most important products to get, or you can fix everything and do it right, and there’s 60 days money back guarantee. You know, for whatever reason, we just let people return within 60 days, no questions asked. That doesn’t happen very often. So if people want to get their environment tested, they go to EMF hometest.com. is that right? EMF home test dot com. Yep. Okay, that’s. That’s. Well, just out of curiosity, what got you started down this path? So I got real sick about just over 20 years ago, and I went to all the doctors I could.

I could find every doctor except for a gynecologist and proctologist. I went to all of them, neurologists, neurosurgeons, you know, all of them. And I couldn’t get better. I went to holistic, you know, doctors and chiropractors and acupuncturists and, you name it. And finally I. I found a chiropractor, did some special healing technique. When I started getting better from that, I became a practitioner, actually. I went to work for Premier Research Labs, who trained quantum reflex analysis, which was the thing that got me better. And then I was a. I worked for them for a while, became a practitioner, and I realized if I didn’t address EMFs on my clients, I have a much harder time getting them out, like addressing their Lyme or whatever was going on in their life.

And so my wife and I were practitioners. We both tested all the products we could get our hands on. We didn’t find any that worked really well. A lot of them worked a little bit. Some didn’t work at all, and a couple of made it worse. So we’re like, well, I got to figure this out. So I started studying and created our products, had to figure this out first, created the products, just meant it for our own customers. But we got so many testimonials that it grew, and I had to quit my practice. Then she had to quit her practice and then had to train some reps to help me, and then had to train reps to help train the reps.

And then it just kind of grew into a company almost by accident, which was really nice. How far has your company spread? What do you mean? Like, we have reps speckled across the country. When you start training the trainers, I mean, you’re getting some pretty serious expansion. So we have, you know, we used to be in California. We’re in Charleston, South Carolina now. And we have people up and down the east coast, and we have it all the way to California. So we don’t always have a rep in every town for sure. But even if you don’t have a rep, to get a free consultation over the phone and to have somebody who’s a certified EMF specialist that knows all this stuff can answer your questions is really nice and you can get on the website and get those answers.

Wow, it’s interesting. It’s been an interesting hour. Very interesting. It’s concerning, but it sounds like it’s manageable. And I’m glad, I’m glad you take the practical approach because these things are here to stay. Just because they can cause harm doesn’t mean that we’re going to get rid of them. But there are some solutions out there. And Again, go to emftest.com Our guest has been Corey Hillis. Corey, thank you so much for coming on and it’s been a pleasure to talk to you and thank you for sharing the information and thank you so much for what you do, too.

Thank you. Appreciate that. Good luck with everything. And let’s hope people listen carefully this, because folks, this is something to take a serious look at because this isn’t going away. Thanks so much, Corey. Thank you so much.
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