Why Men Were Targeted: Sophia the Gnostics Hidden History

➡ The text discusses the speaker’s belief that Mary, in Gnostic terminology, represents the great feminine force that created the world. The speaker also shares their experience with a weight loss peptide, retatrutide, and a capsule, 5amino 1 mq, which have helped them lose weight. They then introduce their guest, J Weidner, a founder of Gaia Television, who shares insights into hidden historical information and the importance of having access to all information to form beliefs. The speaker also mentions a detox product, Masterpiece, which removes pollutants from the body.
➡ The text discusses a theory that history has been manipulated and hidden, particularly regarding a period known as the Dark Ages, which the author believes was a time of peace and prosperity. The author suggests that this manipulation began with Napoleon and continues today through a secret project, Project X, aimed at discovering the secrets of alchemy. The author also discusses the changes in Gaia, a network he helped start, which has evolved into a large corporation. He expresses his dissatisfaction with the changes and his decision to leave after a cancer diagnosis.
➡ The speaker, Jay, was a key figure in a company that had a successful program with 700,000 subscribers. However, after he left, the company’s subscriber count dropped and the quality of the programming declined. Jay attributes this to the company’s shift towards commercialization and the lack of understanding of the industry by the new management. He also mentions that his lack of formal ownership and the increasing interference from new managers led to his departure and the company’s subsequent decline.
➡ The text discusses how organized religions, particularly Christianity, have been used as systems of control, often distorting original teachings for power. It highlights the Gnostics, a group before Christianity, who believed in personal enlightenment and rejected authority. Their teachings were suppressed and they were wiped out, but their influence remains. The text also criticizes the removal of female wisdom in Christianity, suggesting a need for balance.
➡ The text discusses the idea that suppressing feminine values in society was a strategy to control men, making them more susceptible to becoming warriors. It suggests that this suppression has led to societal imbalance and conflict. The text also explores the power of the feminine spiritual force, citing historical examples where apparitions of female figures brought peace to conflict-ridden areas. It concludes by discussing the Gnostics’ belief in Sophia, a higher intelligence who created art in the universe.
➡ A woman ventured to a barren planet and created life, resulting in a chaotic world filled with diverse creatures and landscapes. However, the gods, disturbed by the chaos, created spiritual parasites called Archons to bring order. Over time, the Archons became too powerful, leading to an imbalance of negative energy. The story suggests that it’s our responsibility to regain control, with methods like prayer, meditation, and music, and to spread awareness about this belief system.
➡ The speaker discusses their experience with online suppression, particularly on platforms like YouTube, where their content is not reaching the intended audience. They believe this is a form of modern-day censorship, akin to burning books in the past. Despite this, they continue to produce content, available on their website and platforms like Gaia and Amazon. They also highlight the public’s interest in topics like life after death and the afterlife, suggesting that content creators should focus on these areas.
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Mary with a star spangled blue dress, right? And, and stars all around her. Exactly like the statue of Isis at Seis in Egypt. So it’s very clear that Mary is not the, not the mother of Jesus. She may be, but in the Gnostic terminology she is Isis, she is Sophia. She is the great feminine that created this wild crazy place that we live in. Just a short break from the program to share with you an amazing peptide to help you lose weight. It’s stronger than oic. Why? It’s because it not only reduces your appetite but it also burns fat.

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It is easy and straightforward. Go to sarahwestall.com under shop or use the link below and remember to use coupon code Sarah. Welcome to business Game changers. I’m Sarah Westall, this is the Sunday night Thrive Hour and I have a fun guest coming. J Weidner. He was one of the founders of Gaia Television and he was there, he was in charge of all content and production for the first years that Gaia was formed and he has a really interesting insight into what was happening behind the scenes, why, you know, what happened there and where it’s at today.

But then we get into some of his documentaries and what historically, what has been hidden from us. You know, I don’t really care what people believe but I do care that you have access to information so that you can make a decision about what you believe. And your decisions about what you believe are not based on a very sliver of access of information. If, if you still believe in something, it’s still the context of your worldview after getting exposed to all sorts of things. That’s great. That’s what it’s about. That’s about being an independent thinker and about having self agency and being a sovereign thinker and being independent.

Right. That’s what it’s all about. But if you don’t have access to it and you’re being shielded and they’re suppressing information, whether intentionally or not, then you may be believing in things that simply aren’t true because you don’t have access to it. I’m not saying what he’s saying today is true. I just want to know for myself and for everybody else, what was history? And in this case, this is what did the Gnostics, what were the Christian Gnostics? Was Jesus a Christian Gnostic? And was that really our history? Was that what really shaped the Renaissance? He’s making an argument that the entire Renaissance was different than what we understand it to be.

And it was influenced by a radical different way of thinking. And because that thinking took power away from the control structure, they banned it. They pretty much wiped out groups of people who thought that way, wiped out the history. This is his argument. And they took over and then cut it off so that you can only see certain things. You do not get to see that these people existed or what they believed in because it takes away from their power. That’s his argument. And I am beyond interested in what that means. Because if that’s a huge part of our history and it’s missing in all the historical books, it’s missing in the libraries.

He claims it’s not missing in the Vatican and other ancient libraries. He claims it’s not missing from the Ethiopian library or from other historical documents, but it is missing from anything that we teach in history today. It’s missing from mainstream everything. So what is this and what does this mean? So this is just a fascinating discussion and this is what I’m looking for. I love paradigm changes. I love to think about things differently and put whatever my beliefs are into a context of a, of a more complete picture. Right? Because if your belief system doesn’t hold up to new information and, and you, you need to be kept away from that.

You need to be shielded from learning things in order to keep your beliefs, then your Beliefs aren’t very strong in the first place. I mean, they need to be tested and tried. And if you still believe it, then you are solid in your beliefs. That’s my. That’s what I believe in. Okay. So I’m not afraid of anything. Let’s go there. Let’s learn about it. Okay, before I get into that, I want to tell you about Masterpiece. Masterpiece is this great little bottle of stuff that takes out microplastics and heavy metals and aluminum and. And things that are polluting your body.

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I’m always looking for, how do we think differently. Even if you believe it or not, at least you’re exposed to a different information that you just haven’t heard before. Yeah, that’s kind of the whole point. One of the reasons that. That I. I helped start Gaia was I was. I suddenly had this platform and I could create like a. A mystery school on television. Yeah. And we gave. Gave permission to everybody who was thinking that way, but all alone, probably living in the suburbs somewhere, to think that way. And. And, you know, I think that’s what we have to do.

If you know something, you need to spread the information. Well, and it’s not even, you know, how do we want people to think as much as, here’s information, this is. This is history. This is information that’s out There and now put contextualize it into your own worldview and what does that mean? But to hide whole chunks of history and whole chunks of books and information doesn’t do anybody any good. No, in fact, that’s my main peeve with the establishment is that they ignore huge swaths of history or just pass right over without mentioning it. And you know, I did, my first book was on alchemy and cathedrals and how cathedrals are actually were built and designed by alchemists as healing machines, you might say.

And then you read a book, 15 books on Notre Dame Cathedral. Don’t have anything about that in there. You know, it’s just all about, you know, the statues and all that. And you got to wonder how we missed this. Are hysterian historians that bad or are they just afraid to talk about certain things? And why are we, have we gotten into a point where we’re afraid to talk about historical truths? Doesn’t mean you believe it, but that they certainly did back then. So why are we not able to talk about it as history? Because the people that are running our world and have been running our world for over a hundred years in a very serious fashion don’t want you to know that.

They want you to think that there was these thing called the Dark Ages and we were all living in abject poverty. And this is, you know, the cathedrals came out of the Dark Ages. The Dark Ages weren’t dark. They were one of the most splendid times of all. We had lived in amazingly great architecture, had great ate great food, had clean water and there was very little war going on. And they don’t want you to know that there was a time when there were happy people everywhere. And so they did everything they could to, to undercut that society that was existed for everything from erasing villages to destroying all the bells and the cathedrals to doing everything they could.

And you just have to say that in the end it’s a. It’s some kind of archonic force that is incredible. It is incredible. And, and every year it gets worse and the people that remember it when it was better are dying off. And you can just see how it goes. And you know, well, and there’s. There’s a lot of history that has been erased, but it’s still, when you go and dig, you can find the, the information like Tartaria, for example, or all these cathedral. You can find all this stuff and you’re like, wait a minute, why has this been systematically buried? It’s so weird.

Like the maps of Antarctica before We had the ability supposedly to even map out Antarctica. How was that even possible? We hadn’t even discovered it yet. It was mapped before we discovered it. So Peri Reese map has Antarctica in it. That was 1550 and we didn’t discover Antarctica 1800. So, you know, we have to put our thinking brain on, right? It’s not like we, we have to show up and remember to take our brain off the shelf and use it. Yeah, I think what, you know, there was a, there was a systematic destruction. It started with, I believe, the Napoleonic wars and Napoleon just kind of rolled, right? Europe and Russia, destroying everything in his past, Right.

And if you look at maps before Napoleon of Europe, you’ll see all these little villages everywhere, right? You look at maps after Napoleon, they’re all gone. They all were raised, burned down or something, I don’t know. And so I think it, I think Napoleon was the fulcrum point in, in history. He, he, you know, he’s the first guy to visit the pyramids in Egypt with any, with SC And I believe that Napoleon started a secret project that’s still going on. I call it Project X. And it was funded by the rich people in Europe. And when Napoleon was pushed away, it continued on.

The flying machines of Northern California in the 1880s are part of this project. It seems to be mostly French and Germans that are involved in this project. And the project is to find the secrets, the very, very, very, very central secrets which are the secrets of alchemy. And that’s what they’re doing and they’re putting all their time and effort into it. And this secret project evolved into the secret space program and a lot of, a lot of black operations and things and a lot of people are involved in it, from Aleister Crowley to, to Jack Parsons.

And it seeks power and it seeks talismans and, and it’s part of this group that’s covering up history. They want it all to themselves. They don’t want any of us to have it. They want it all to them. So they want the knowledge, everything to themselves. They have a lot of it, right? I mean, they have all this history and they have access to it. They just don’t want the regular people to. I’m sure the Vatican library has all the history in it of Tartaria and why they wiped it off the map. You know, the. Soon as, as soon communists took over Russia in 1917, the first thing they did was wipe out all the books on Tartaria.

It’s like bizarre beyond belief. Are seeking out the book so they can destroy them. Why would they do that? Right. And then you look at the. The Great Wall of China and the guard turrets. So they have these little. Little huts on the Great Wall where the guards could go to get out of the rain and stop, right? Well, the guard turrets are on the opposite side of China. They’re on the enemy side. Why would you put the guard turrets on the enemy side where they can get hurt by the enemy with their arrows and stuff? Put it on the other side, they’re much safer.

But no, they’re on this side. So what does that mean? I don’t think the Chinese built the Great Wall. I think the Great Wall was to keep the Chinese out of Tartaria. Wow. You think it’s the other way around. That’s interesting. Okay, this is going to air on the thrive hour, right? And a lot of times my thrive hour is how we can be, you know, how can we learn more and be better and. And see what our. Our true nature is and what we’re capable of in so many ways. And part of that is understanding aspects of our history that we don’t even know exists.

And this isn’t to shove down anybody’s throat. You need to believe this. This is to expose you to information that frankly, has been hidden from you. And. But before we get into more of that, you helped start Guying and Gaia. I remember back in the day when Gaia started, it was really different than it is today. It’s turned into a massive corporation, and it’s like all this stuff is hidden behind. You have to pay to see it, which isn’t. I mean, I understand you got to pay for stuff, but it was different. All this information was available with people talking about it all the time.

And then suddenly it bec. Behind a paywall, and not that many people, the average person doesn’t have access to it anymore. I don’t know if that’s good or bad, but I. I’m just saying. And it’s changed a lot. So how has it changed you? How are you first involved with it? And what do you. What do you. What’s going on with it? So I. I was. I was friends with the owner who has, I don’t know, somewhere between 500 million and a billion dollars. And he’s. He’s my age. Just a h. One day he called. I worked for him once before, helped start one of his corporations.

And I left and went back to my organic farm in Oregon. And then I got a phone call in 2012, 2011, asking me if I would go to Hawaii to, to plan out a network by my, my friend. And so free trip to Hawaii. So me and my wife went there and spent two weeks in wish I’d never gone because I didn’t even get to walk on the beach. All he did was stay in his house planning this huge network for two straight weeks. And my head was just spinning. When I left, he never offered me a job.

He just said, I’ll pay you to help me plan the network. So I went back home and I was fine. And then on mid March, he called me up again and he said, I want you to move here to Boulder. I’m like, oh dude, I did that one more other time. I don’t want to do it. We got in big negotiations. I got, got a crapload of money out of him. So I, I, I did go back to Boulder and we started it. I was the head of content and the head of production because we didn’t have any money.

So I had to wear two hats, working 16 hours a day, six, seven days a week. Called everybody I knew to see if they would come work with us. I got Regina, I got George, Nori, David Wilcock, every, anybody I called out anybody I could get because I was starting this network and when I got there, we’d already, guy had already started about three months before I got there. And it had I think 1700 subscribers when I got there and I was sitting there and looking at the, our cheat sheets. I’m looking at, oh, we’re losing.

I see. We’re losing a million and a half a month. We’ve got 1700 subscribers. We are in very serious trouble. Right? And everybody like, well, I guess you’re right, we are. So then I just pulled stops out like I said, and I pulled in anybody I knew, Greg, Braden, everybody, Everybody I knew, I pulled in and I worked my ass off. I produced every single show that Gaia produced all the way up until 2016. And then in 2018 I got cancer and laying in the hospital bed thinking about the 16 hour days and all of that, I decided that I will give them six more months and then leave.

And so I gave them six more months of my life and then I left. I’ve been very, very happy ever since. So what happened to Gaia? Well, it was such a great idea. I want to tell you that right now. It was an excellent idea. I think there’s other opportunities now to play off of that, but what an excellent idea for a network. Yeah, it was, it was a great idea. And it worked at first. And, you know, when I left, we had 700, 000 subscribers. Right. I think we got maybe 400 now. But what they did was there was.

There’s nobody that actually understands the space like I do. I had a national. I had a national radio show that was all. With all these people I just mentioned and more. Right. Like your show a lot like. Right. And. And nobody there that knows the space anymore, so just repeat. Yeah. It seems like it’s more just a commercialized right now. Yeah. And a lot of big names that really have no depth to what. What this is, you know, new stuff. Yeah. I call them One Trick ponies. They’re. They’re guys who. Women and men who have. They know one thing in the esoteric world.

They’re really good at this one thing. So they’re good for one interview, right? They’re good for one. But if you keep. If you keep repeating, it’s just gonna be the same answers to the same questions. And so I had a whole list of people who were one trick pony over here. That whole list of people that could just go on and talk about anything and everything, like Graham Hancock or. Or even David Wilcock, who could just sit and just go on for five straight hours and not repeat themselves. And it was just like, heck. Right. I wish I could do that.

And. And so I think that they shied away from. First thing they did after I left was they. We had three categories. We had Seeking Truth, we had Transformation was kind of New Agey, and then we had yoga. Right. As soon as I left, I got rid of the Seeking Truth, which was all a cool program. But see, that’s. That’s why I’m saying there’s a big hole that needs to be filled because the Seeking Truth is everything, in my opinion. Yeah. And. And the thing is, is that for the first three years, I had no one watching me.

All the other managers were so busy just running this startup, Right. That they. And I was having so much success with the program, and they just didn’t watch me. So I was inviting everybody I wanted. So I was going out to lunch with everybody, all the top people, and. And it was just really fun. And then slowly, you know, managers got added who had to have something to do. Right. And so they said, well, what is that Jay doing? What is he doing? They grinded it to a halt. All the constriction started coming on. And. And then, you know, because I had masked too much power, right.

I had to be stripped of my power to like, a Like the salami method, you know, a little bit at a time. So I just had a mass. Too much power. Unfortunately for them, once I was removed from power, their stock went from 27 to $3 dollars. And their programming went from really interesting programming to. How’s that? One of my friends said it, Jay, when you were running Gaia, it was punk rock. Now it’s easy listening. Well, I compare it to, like, what Rolling Stone magazine was when it first came out, right, where it was covering the edge of rock and roll and it was doing.

It was the edgy stuff, and it was where the. The pop culture was going. And that’s why they exploded and became what they were. And the whole thing came on the scene while the other ones all sat back trying to be safe. It’s the same thing with, like, the personal computer where Xerox was like, oh, this isn’t going to be anything big, right? And. And it’s the same kind of thing. And then you get the. The managers in there and they don’t under. They don’t have the vision. Now, you accumulating too much power wouldn’t have been a problem if you had significant ownership or you were the owner.

Owner. You know what I mean? I had no ownership. Yeah, yeah, I. I owned some shares, but I didn’t have any ownership. I really didn’t even have a title. I mean, I was content director and head of production, but, you know, I really didn’t have a formalized title either. So, you know, I, I look, I. To Normie, I looked like a wrecking crew. To them, I looked like a wrecking crew. I looked like a guy. Understand. They don’t understand. That’s what they did to YouTube too, right? Ess. YouTube was. Was that it was this flourishing place I liked.

I always say I liked it because it was nerdy. Like, it was better when it was nerdy. I mean, all of us were in. Nobody thought podcasting was cool yet. I started a few years after you, so you didn’t know me really back then because I started about 2013 time frame and started building at that point, but it was nerdy. And so we. I was learning a ton. We’re all learning a ton. There wasn’t this huge competition against us either. We’d all work together. It was cool. It was so amazing. It was an amazing time to be alive.

And we were all growing up and learning together, and that’s how I felt. You probably already knew I was a late comer. I don’t know. But it was saying. And and then as soon as podcasting wasn’t nerdy anymore and the average person wanted to do it, everything, I mean, everything was. It’s kind of like Rolling Stone being taken over by the middle managers. You know, it was no longer edgy. It was no longer cool. It was no longer any of that stuff. Stuff. They threw the cool kids out and had the nerds come in and manage it.

I mean, I don’t know, but it really wasn’t the edge of Change. Like, it was. No. And, you know, you can even look at it like, Apple Computers kind of went that way too, as soon as Jobs left. It’s just. They’ve invented nothing. Not really. It’s just been flatlining all the old fart managers living off the fat of the company and their incremental change. They did bring in a new CEO that. That’s trying because they have identified and they brought a new CEO and they’re trying to turn that around, but you can’t. Your glory days in the past cannot be repeated.

By just managing the fat. Like you’re saying, you got to bring the fire dudes in, fire girls and the ones that are just breathing fire that you. You don’t even have to pay them. Honestly, I would have done it for free. I had enough money to do it for free, and I would have done it for free. I really would have. I wouldn’t tell anybody that at Gaia, but, I mean, I. But because it was just so much fun, I couldn’t believe it. You gave me all these toys and all these people, and I get to play around for three years and not anybody supervising me and make all this really cool programming.

And then they start. Oh, that’s what happened to it. When they started hiring more managers, they started watching the programming and they would come into my office and they said, well, Jay, maybe you shouldn’t have that guy on anymore. He’s kind of scary. I go, yeah, that’s why we have him on. I go, well, you know, I don’t know. Some of this is a little bit too much. And it was just started. That’s how it started. And then slowly ground grinded me away into the ground. And at one point, they hired a bunch of people from Microsoft marketing department from Seattle.

Like, five of them came to Gaia. And the first thing you try to do is change my programming. Well, but the thing with corporate America, big marketing, they’re. They have this inflated ego of what they’re capable of doing because they have all these resources. And I, I know I lived there at one point you think you are what these resources represent, and then you go out with this inflated ego thinking you’re way better than you are, and you just destroy everything in the wake of. I mean, you. Yeah, exactly. They had, they, if, if, if Gaia had a hundred dollars, right? Upper management had 30 bucks, the employees had 20 bucks, marketing had 40 bucks, and production had 10 bucks.

That’s how it worked, right? So it’s like I’m looking around going, the only people that are actually producing anything are us, and we’re the ones getting the least of them. That’s so funny. I used to have a joke that said that about management. You know, like, nobody’s managing, everybody’s managing and nobody’s doing. I mean, you could go for like a year and, and do absolutely nothing and not get fired. This was when I was in telecom. You could go and I, I was working my butt off, right? And so it was amazing what you could get done just by being that type of person in that environment.

But I’m like, you could go a year doing nothing and not get fired. You go. If you just. If you only returned phone calls, you could go two years. Amazing. It’s amazing. I was looking out my window, I’d be busier. Until I look, I see like 30 people doing nothing. They’re on the computer looking at YouTubes and I’m like, none of these people are working. Yeah, well, that kills an organization, right? I mean, that grinds it to a halt. That’s why a great, a once great organization, one great company can go down, right? I mean, that’s it.

But you are producing amazing stuff and you personally have produced some amazing stuff. And not everybody’s gonna like it and, and agree with it. But what I do like about is you’re presenting information that they don’t know about and that history is, has hidden. You have one thing about, you have lots of things, okay? But one thing that I thought was really interesting was the way that pre Christianity, the Gnostics. I think it’s really important to understand how all of this developed. And what if you were going to create, if you were going to create a system of control, you would create.

This is what I have a hard time with organized religions about, is that you would take something absolutely amazing and, and wisdom, you know, just deep and rich of wisdom and amazing and love, and then package it around control, control items so that you’d be like, well, this is real and this is so amazing and truthful, and then package it around control. And that’s what organized religion feels to me. That’s what happened to Christianity. That’s what it feels to me that they did that because they knew it was the most powerful control mechanism that’s humanly possible to create.

And to think that somebody who is, is evil or has energy, that’s evil, you can use whatever you word you want. They are not above doing that. Oh yeah. I think that what the Gnostic Christianity was extremely powerful force before the Council of Nicaea in 300. And I think that they, because of what the interpretations of the Gnostics were had of Jesus’s sayings, is pretty much completely diametrically opposed to what we are taught that Jesus said. And Carl Jung wrote extensively about this. He said that the message that Jesus is saying that caused the disruption, probably his death was.

And you can’t find this in the Bible. You can only find this in the books of Thomas, the books of Sophia and the books of Mary Magdalene where Jesus says that you cannot find the truth out here, you can only find the truth in here. And that, that, that means you have no masters, you have no priests, there’s no one above you. You are, you are at the top of the food chain and all you have to do is know that. And that’s what it. And then the Council of Nicaea wiped that out and then wiped out the Gnostics for teaching it.

So the Gnostics were completely destroyed and murdered. By 800 they were completely gone. The Manicheans, all the, all the sects were completely destroyed because the Cathars were the last Gnostic sect to die off. And that would be what, 1200, 1300? And so the teachings were anti authority. They’re incredibly anti authority. They were like, no, you have no authority over me at all. I am a sovereign being and you have no say to tell me what to do on any level. And this could not be. And it’s just spreading like wildfire that had to be quelled. And that’s what the Council of Nicaea really was doing, was quelling the Gnostic Christians that were everywhere.

And Gnostic Christianity makes so much more sense. Jesus didn’t come here to die on the cross for your sin. He came here to teach you how to find the truth. And for that teaching he was killed. That’s right. That’s how, that’s what I, that makes a lot more sense. Yeah, Truth, the search for the truth and understanding the truth is what he died for. But they, I just, but you know that I’m. This, we’re gonna get lit up in this show because, and that’s why I say it’s such a strong control mechanism because they have been taught that they have to obey and obey without questioning.

Obey, who are you obeying? And, and thinking that whatever is written by probably humans is, was really written by God so that you wouldn’t question it. You know, the whole God says this. Well how do you know God says that? Who told you that and why do you believe that? They don’t even question that. Well, yeah, the Ethiopian Bible has 88 books as opposed to 66 that we have and they in, in their own language very carefully copied them over every year, hundreds of, of years of copying the books and they’re completely different Bibles. You know, they’re, that they’re.

The Bible that they copied over is the Gnostic Bible. The Bible that we have is the Gnostic Bible with all the Gnostic books, books thrown out. So you have this strange scattering of stories. You know, the Gnostics completely rejected the Old Testament. That’s what caused them to get in so much trouble because they had very low opinion of Yahweh. And, and if you read the Old Testament in an honest way, the stories of Yahweh are pretty hair raising, you’ve got to admit. I mean it’s not what Jesus taught. I always, always say that in order to be a part of the organized Christianity you have to ignore most of what Jesus really taught.

And that’s, that’s the problem that I have with so much that’s happening is like if you were really a Christian and you’re following what Jesus taught, then you follow what Jesus taught. Come on, what did he really teach? And then you have to point out everything that goes against that and say wait a minute, this is not so. We, we need to put our brains, get our brains off the shelf, put them back in and start thinking. Yep. And, and you can see it’s in, in some ways there’s a, it’s the greatest. Gnosticism is the greatest spiritual rebellion of all because only wants the truth.

It doesn’t want anything else, doesn’t care about anything else. That’s what Gnostic means. It means knowledge. So that’s what they cared about. So and you know, and this, this, this would outrage people. In the past the Gnostic was more of a slanderous term actually. It meant know it all. You’re a. Know it all. You, you think you know everything. Right, that’s what it meant. And, and so, and the Gnostics, you know, they would hold conferences with where the, the, the plebs could come and watch them talk about astronomy and language and, and you know, hoping that some of the peasants listening would come and join them, right.

And hear this and say, oh, this is really amazing, right? I want to join. So, so if you look at like the hermetic sciences, they’re all Gnostic sciences. That’s all they all are. And, and at the core of Gnosticism is alchemy. I say not every Gnostic is an alchemist, but every alchemist, alchemist is an ostrich. And, and that’s again going back to the cathedrals. You know, Notre Dame Cathedral is dedicated to Our lady, right? And what’s not dedicated to Jesus or to God? It’s dedicated to a female. And if you look at the, if you look at the very top of Notre Dame, on the very top you have to get a zoom lens or binocular others to see it.

There’s this round medallion and on that round medallion is Mary with a star spangled blue dress, right? And, and stars all around her. Exactly like the statue of Isis at Seis in Egypt. So it’s very clear that Mary is not the, not the mother of Jesus. She may be, but in the Gnostic terminology she is Isis, she is Sophia, she is the great feminine that created this wild, crazy place that we live in. Right, Just a quick break from the program. I need to share with you an urgent manner about scam gold IRAs and the important need to make sure that you’re working with a trusted company in the precious metals space.

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Right. I mean, can’t be blind. My opinion. It was done to terrorize the men. They needed armies and stuff. And if you have this feminine aspect, this, like, leavening, gentle aspect to your religion, they think that’s going to make men weaker, but it’s not. It’s going to make men much more wise. Yeah. And you can see that as the wars started ramping up in Europe, that’s when the Goddess and all that energy was depleted and destroyed. And to this day, there’s Christian groups that scream that, you know, Notre Dame is an apostate church and that it’s dedicated to a female.

So it’s a horrible thing and it should be burned down. And many, many times, by the way, presidents tried to burn down Notre Dame. Isn’t that amazing? Like, because it’s dedicated to a female, we need to destroy it. Like they actually have of hatred for. That was with the whole witchcraft, all the witcher hatred for female. That is something that is underlying all of it. Feels like it to me. It feels like anytime you, any female has any kind of power or whatever, no matter, it is like it brings out this, like, incredible negative energy from this army of people.

Yep. All designed to. To, I believe, terrorize the male population into not having a. A quiet, happy life, but having a raucous life that will lead them to become maybe not good warriors, but warriors. Right. Because that’s all they want. Either farm or you will fight for us and that’s it. We don’t need you otherwise. That’s the way it was in feudal times. And so, yeah, interesting perspective because a lot of people think it’s just you complaining because women aren’t treated well. But it’s like your perspective is, no, this was really to hurt the men. The men, yeah.

Yeah, it really hurt the men. There’s nothing you want to hurt a man to make sure he doesn’t have a mom and make sure he never gets married. Okay, then you’ll. That man will be a broken man. I guarantee he’ll be dead by the time he’s 50 or 60. And I’ve seen it. So I. I don’t even know. I. I give you 20 examples of people in my life who didn’t have those things. And, you know, another thing that has to be said is, so in the 15 and 1600s in Mexico, all the tribes, the Spanish hadn’t taken complete control.

All the tribes were fighting each other and it was like a gigantic civil war all through the, the country of Mexico. And one day this little boy, 12 year old boy is walking down the road and he looks and he sees like this shining light over the cornfield, right? And he’s like, what can you name? Then he suddenly sees a female form come out of the light and she’s covered again with a blue shawl with stars all over him, just like Mary and Notre Dame, just like Isis and Seis. And this is in Guadalupe, Mexico. And she says, you know, give the road these roses to the bishop and tell him, you know, that I want peace.

And so the boy brought it to the bishop and the bishop’s like really curious about all this and everything. And, and, and then peace broke out for the first time in thousands of years in Mexico. Peace broke out everywhere. And the same thing happened in, in Bosnia. There was, there was the civil war in Serbia. There were all this fighting going on and all of a sudden the same apparition appears over and over until the fighting stops and then hasn’t come back black, right? And it’s like there’s something about the spiritual feminine force that it can cast a spell over men.

And I think men are afraid of that. If you look at like Ulysses, the Odyssey, you know, how the sirens could control the fierce warriors just by singing to them. And I think there’s this. The male warrior is in fear of something that the female possesses and that power must be stopped and shot up. That’s interesting. But it’s a, it’s an insecurity in, in men because the, When I have some of the top like Green Berets or trained special force type guys on who are really confident about who they are in their training, that they are not like that.

They are the, the strongest men, the strongest mental people. You know, the people have the strongest mental and mind. They love women, love women. They, they just. There’s a knowing and there’s a knowing amongst women too that have reached that wisdom. There’s just this knowing of balance. Yep, yep. They, they’re the, those tough guys are the strongest lovers of women I’ve ever met. I mean, and their women are so loyal and attacking, attached to them, it would never leave them for a million years. So yeah, they’re, it’s not those guys that they’re after, it’s the guys that are like below those guys.

That’s the one. Yeah, yeah, the Ones that can’t reach Alpha Hood for whatever reason. They’re the ones that, you know, stay terrorized for their whole life. Can’t figure out reality, don’t understand women. Can’t really get a good job. You know, they might have a good job, but they hate it, right? So, you know, the betas, you know, and there’s a lot of women that were pretty much like that too. They’re pretty nasty, right? They don’t treat men very well. And it’s, it is. We’re getting, we have a society now that’s, that’s elevating those sides. We’re actually encouraging it.

We’re encouraging this, this awfulness amongst women and men. I mean, what is that? You know what I’m saying? I know, yeah. I had a, had an encounter with one the other day. In fact, I didn’t, I didn’t, I didn’t. I didn’t shut the door of my car fast enough for her. Goodbye. So you start screaming at me and I just walked away like, I don’t know, so hard. I’ve been attacked by them, too. Those, the Karens, right? They call, I call them. I came up with the term for the men that are the equivalent of the Karens.

I call them Karens and Fragile Kens, and they’re essentially the same thing. And I’ve been attacked by both. And oh, my God, there’s something there. Definitely. Well, there. It’s, it’s a. The same people that are hiding our history from us are driving everybody to hate each other because that’s the only way they can stay on top. And, you know, there’s a kid about a month ago on the Internet, he couldn’t have been more than 20 years old. He called himself the billionaire son. I don’t know if you saw him, but he did like a 15, 20 minute rant about reality and from a billionaire son point of view.

And it was incredible. He’s like, dudes, let me tell you what’s happening here, okay? The billionaires run everything. They own. All the politicians that. The politicians don’t do what the billionaires say, you know, the politicians are gone, all right? They’re not going to ever do anything you want. They’re only doing what the billionaires want. And, and, and the. So the thing I’m trying to say is in order for the billionaires to not get busted, they’ve got to keep us all like this. They’ll fight each other all the time. So they, you know, we just saw the SPLC was funding all the White racists, that’s all black organization funding white race because they couldn’t find enough racism to fight against racism.

That’s such a good way. There wasn’t enough racism to fight against. So let’s create the racism so that we can turn it into a problem and let’s actually fund it. Yeah, I mean, that’s it. It was such a great revelation. I mean, those are the kinds of things that need to come out so people can, you know, we have a lot to clean up. Right? There’s a lot that needs to get cleaned up. But you have contributed a lot to knowledge of different ways of looking at the world that really make you feel good when you look at this stuff.

It feels so much better to get along and to have a deep, rich relationship with the people around you and not have this fighting and you know, as a woman, to actually be respected for what I am and then in turn you love and respect the people around you. It’s just such a better way to be. But where did you, or what did you learn about the Gnostics and, and Sophia? Because you did a whole documentary on Sophia. What was Sophia? Who was she? What did they believe? Whether you believe it or not is fine, but I want to know what the historical understanding of it is.

So the Gnostics believe there’s this thing called the parola. And it was this like, I describe it as like a misty cloud where all the galactic intelligences, higher intelligence live. Is that like the Akasha records or the Akashi writers? The memory of what Sophia created. So Sophia got bored and she decided that she wanted to become an artist. And so she realized that you can’t really create art in the pleroma. So she said, I’m going to go outside the pleroma and I’m going to create something amazing. So she went, she came to this barren, rocky planet and she created oceans and forests and weather and animals and plants and insects and everything.

Created everything. And it was just gigantic cacophony of chaos. It was pure feminine chaos. The only way to really describe it. And, and she couldn’t stop. She kept making her creation. She was, okay, I’m done now. I’m gonna go over here and make this. I’m gonna make zebras today and tomorrow I’m going to make hippopotamuses. And, and I’m going to make. I think I want snow now up on the mountains. And so, and, and, and the gods in the pleroma started getting upset. They’re like, wait a minute, what are you doing? And she says, I’m, I’m creating this incredible place.

It’s wonderful. Isn’t it beautiful here? And they’re going, well, just like the managers at Gaia, well, I don’t know about this. We need to put a locking mechanism on all this insanity this crazy woman is making. And so they said, okay, well, what’s that going to be? I said, well, let’s create a spiritual parasite that can control this reality to a limited degree, so it isn’t quite as crazy as it is now. And so they created what are called Archons. And the Archons were spiritual parasites that came here to what they thought was create order. And they did create some order.

Wasn’t as chaotic as it was before, but, but in the end, it is up to us to recognize that we are responsible for what we’re doing here on this planet. And we are, we are. A lot of us are, have been invaded by Archons that make us do really bad things. And what the, what the Pleroma wants us to do is to take responsibility for life on this planet, not have a hierarchy, and to get rid of the archons. So that’s the idea behind Sophia. And the Archons initially created balance. I mean, this is the theory, this is the story.

They initially created balance and then they, they could, they were too powerful and so they started taking over. And now the negative energy is too strong. It’s too strong. And it’s just, it took over and they’re saying, okay, this is out of balance. We need to get, you guys need to take back over. So that’s essentially the story. That’s right. And, and every force has tried to stop the story from getting out, but now with the Internet, they can’t plug the holes anymore. And so now the whole story is getting out. And fortunately there’s like 200 people just like me telling everyone about Gnosticism and what used to be like 20, now it’s 200, so it’ll be 2,000.

And telling everybody what Gnosticism is and returning back to those. So how do you defeat the Archons? Right, how do the Gnostics defeat the Archives? The things that they did, they, they prayed, they meditated. They had sacred architecture they lived in that repelled the Archons. They rang bells, which archons hate music. Gregorian chants were particularly effective in driving away the Archons, the cathedrals themselves. That’s why there’s gargoyles on the outside of the cathedrals, because the demons stay outside. So everything was about getting rid of the demons because The Catholic and the Christian religion still believes in all these demons, right? Oh I, I do.

And dark energy is for sure. You know, there, there are. Whether you, no matter how you look at it from a purely scientific perspective where there’s light and dark energy, negative you can feel, I can feel it when I’m in a dark space. Right. Or there’s demons. I mean you can define it any way you want. Guys, whoever’s watching this, plenty of demons around, but that’s what they believed. And, and, but now how when you look at like what Jesus taught, did it map to the Gnostics understanding of all of this? Yes. Yeah, because, because Jesus was all about the liberating the, the person from the hierarchies and that’s removed the, the Jesus sayings that I’m talking about have been removed from the Bible, but they’re in the Gnostic Bible Bibles and that was what he was doing.

And he was in and he was telling them that they had the power themselves that they didn’t have to look anywhere else and just pissed off the rabbis and they got all together, the Pharisees, they all together and they killed him. And also showing that if you actually believe these beliefs it’s very likely you’re going to die because it pisses people off. And the Gnostics, nobody’s been more even now. Do you think people now are even murdered for that? There’s a lot of people who get angry at people who preach Gnosticism. But I know nobody’s killing us anymore, thank goodness nobody’s killing people anymore that believe that they do get, they light up and they get very angry if you don’t believe the scripture, they say the scriptures that read your Bible, you know that kind of stuff.

There’s this and I went on to, you know, I went on to some of the AIs and said what percent of the people actually believe the Bible literally and are get so angry if you even question anything, you can’t even look for truth outside and they, you have to like turn off your brain and not even question anything. What it’s only like 12 of the population that are really like that. But the number of people that are like that who are very actively commenting and they are, they’re out represented in, in politics, they’re out represented online, they’re out representative and they feel the need to be able to insert their will onto you.

Like you have to believe what I believe, otherwise you everything’s horrible. I wish they would spend that much energy on stopping human trafficking or all these other bad things instead of trying to police people’s questioning, right? I mean, God, if you believe that strongly, why don’t you spend your time actually being productive and doing something thing. And the thing is, is that there’s like a hundred different translations, at least maybe 200 actually of the Bible. I mean, they’re completely different translations. So you have to ask them, what bible do you believe in? Which translation? Because, you know, if you, I can guarantee you that there’s huge flaws in the King James version of the Bible.

And when you compare our Bible to the Ethiopian Bible, it’s like night and day. Mel Gibson is a big fan of the Ethiopian Bible and he’s basing his new movie, Passion Movie on the Ethiopian Bible. He told Joe Rogan and this is, yeah, this is the truth. The Jesus is in the Ethiopian Bible is more like an acid trip than the Jesus in our Bible. And it’s really true. He’s literally going and fighting demons. Demons. And it’s, it’s incredible. It’s like completely, you know, he’s not this placid, peaceful guy. I mean, he’s taking a sword, he’s killing demons by the hundreds.

Right. And, and that’s not the Jesus that we get. We get the Jesus as it’ll be passive, turn the other cheek and all that. And that’s great. I’m not, I’m not saying it’s bad, but I just like the Jesus in the Ethiopian Bible better. Well, I’m not going to turn the other cheek to somebody who hurts children. You know what I mean? But okay, we. The point of this, and I keep saying this to people because I don’t want to shove down anybody’s throat my beliefs either. I just want to expose people to things and then they get the opportunity to, to learn about it.

But to not have access to it is the problem. And you know, the library of Alexandria probably had all this stuff in it. You know, it was burned down or it was stolen by the church. Only by the church. Stolen and then burned? Yep. Is there evidence to show it was the books were taken out before it was burned? No. But sometime we’ll do a show on the strange library burnings of the 1800s. 1900s, in the 20th century. And it was strange that Library of Congress got burned down. All the records for the creation of America got burned down.

Libraries in Paris, whole street of buildings, only the library burns down. None of the buildings burned down, but the library. Over and over and over. Some forces running around burning books, burning libraries. And they aren’t oh, it’s an accident. I don’t think so. And so, you know, it’s again, it’s the same force that we’re talking about. It’s trying to control history, trying to make everybody hate each other. And it’s archives and they’re sucking the soul out of us. That’s what they’re doing. And they’re trying to recapture control. I think for a little bit there we. The Internet started thriving and flourishing and people started learning and they needed to shut that down.

I have like my shows. I want to know what. What you are seeing that people are most interested in. You know, I’m back on YouTube because it got too obnoxious who they were kicking people off so they’re letting people back. But my stats, my metrics are so high. I pumped all my stats into Google Gemini. I like to use Google Gemini to tell me this because I want them to tell me it. And Google Gemini quote said this is the highest stats I have ever seen. And I said what do you mean by that? And it said this is the highest stats I have ever from average watch time click through you know all the things together have not swipe away all the stats of how you look at a video.

You know the. The most is percentage watched and things and it says it’s a high quote. It’s the highest stats I have ever seen where the gap between viewer numbers and the gap between metrics are. Are this big. Said you should be the biggest name on the plat one not the one of the biggest names on the platform based on these stats ads. So you’re being su. Suppressed. Yeah. And. And. And heavily. You know it’s every video. It’s kind of not every. I mean it’s. It’s a. It’s a decent percentage of them that should get millions of views based on the interest level and then they’ll show it to.

They’ll put it in the browsing like my latest reel is the. The when people go and search they put it under softball. So the only people that get to see an economics show and real are people searching for softball. Right. And it still got you know above 100 view ratios and all this stuff. And then they just killed it. So it’s what. What I’m. And they didn’t. They didn’t do that before they were. Oh. In fact before the purge in 2018 or 2019, I had 10,000, 000 interviews up on YouTube and then after it I had like 900 something like that.

So they purged like almost all my, all the thousands of interviews I’ve done over the years, they were all up on YouTube. I didn’t put them up, but you know, it’s like weird. Yeah, they just. Now they seem like, yeah, now they seem like they’re loosening up. They are loosening up, but not for me because that’s what’s happened. Well, they’ve got. I’m back on there. So they are loosening up, but I’m still in this like containment, very hard containment bubble. And it, it is because they don’t want a normal person to think that they’re still censoring.

So they’re trying to do this psychological operation and you know, they don’t know how to really contain it and they’re not really doing a good job at it. But because other platforms are realizing this is going on and there are other people like, we, we want to be free. But why I brought it up isn’t to complain more about that. It’s to show that this is the modern day library burning. Yeah, it is, it is. That’s exactly what it is. In fact, you could say that everything going digital gives them even more ability to control all of our information.

And so I, I have like almost 10,000 book library because I still believe in getting the information the old time way I do. The Internet, I love the Internet, don’t get me wrong. But I just know that they’re controlling things and removing things because I follow alchemy. And I can tell you they don’t not want you talking about alchemy on the Internet. And so they make it so hard to find anything. It just gets very frustrating. Well, where can people follow you? Where can people see your documentaries? You used to produce for David Wilcock too, didn’t you? Who recently produced his two shows on Gaia, Wisdom Teachings and Cosmic Disclosure.

I still think Wisdom Teaching is the best show ever on Gaia to this day. We produced that from 2013 to 2018. So David and I worked together for five years. We were, we had a very close relationship. I’m very sad about what happened to him. Yeah, yeah, that was. And so where can people find that information and see more of the work that you’ve done? Okay, so all my writings are on jwidener.com all my documentaries are on Gaia and Amazon, including my two new ones, JFKX and A Clockwork Shining. And I have a show on YouTube.

It gets suppressed like yours, called Reality Check. Just type in Reality Check. Jay Widener. Not the, not the Reality Check by that British guy who stole my, my top title UFO dude, Ross Colbert or whatever his name is. But anyway, that’s how you can find me. Well, excellent. What do you think as we close this out? What is the most popular thing? What are people really hungry for? I mean you, you know, you were in charge of content, you know, and I don’t think the human nature has changed much. Although things do change over time. But what are the things that people are most hungry for, really interested in, but they just don’t get get because we don’t get what we used to get anymore.

By far it was life after death. Yeah, by far. M wasn’t even close. If you put out something that had something to do with, you know, the afterlife or how to die, how to what’s going to happen when you die. You know, you put out something like that and they, they love it. I my movie Infinity, which is about that is, was the number one movie a Gaia for I think the first four years. Wow. Just tons of people wanted to watch it because they had all these scientists and biologists talking about death and, and what it is and the spark of light that happens at death.

People don’t realize and frequently when someone dies, there’s a spark of light right when they die. And coming out. Sherry Edwards says she can hear hundreds times. She says there’s this, that, that, that spark of light that you’re talking about is there when you’re born. And when you die, when the sperm hits the egg, there’s, it lets out a spark. That’s the life that’s coming from the, the plasma universe that surrounds all of us. The plasma universe is invisible. Sometimes you can see it and most of the time you can’t. And it’s sentient, has intelligence and it likes to interact with us, but it can’t figure out how to interact with us because we’re so dumb we don’t see them.

And so, you know, it’s electrical in nature and it’s the whole entire spiritual universe is the plasma universe. And it’s 99 of the universe, rocks, trees and humans are 1%. So that’s so fascinating. And that’s kind of gets back into our ability to the sensory data that comes to us. We’re somehow shut off from that. And the telepathy table and these autistic children who don’t have that sensory blockage, they probably have some, but they don’t have the same as somebody who wasn’t, you know, create who is not. That’s on purpose too, by the way. But they can see stuff.

It’s on purpose. You mean the autism’s on purpose or the ability for them to see is on purpose? Is that an accidental byproduct? That’s accidental from it. But the autism itself is some kind of weird experiment. Well, but the fact that they are seeing stuff now is pretty interesting. And what is that? Well, there’s a. The. The GATE program, Gifted and Talented Education Program. We’re now realizing this is a. A CIA program to take. Test all the kids, take the ones that prove that they have some psychic ability, take them into special classes, do stuff to them that enhances their ability.

And that could be even involved trauma and. And then the best ones get taken out and then it become. Charlie Kirk was in the GATE program. David Wilcox was in the GATE program. Candace Owens was in the GATE program. Various rock stars, politicians, they all were part of this incredibly secret program, hiding it even from their parents. So, you know, and I could go, we got to have you back on to talk about that program. That’s that I want to hear more about that. Is that subject really gets people going because a lot of people out there that suffered through the GATE program and, and they’re lost people right now because of what they have happened to and which they can’t remember, by the way.

Most of the people in the GATE program can’t remember any of the classes. Interesting. Very interesting. Well, we’re going to have to have you back. I got to have you back on many times because you have such a depth and all being in charge of production. I. My goal is to have. How like I said before is to just really get people seeing things. And I think that there’s a huge opportunity for. And people are desperate for it. They’re almost. They’re hungry for it. They’re almost desperate for it, honestly. That’s why I think they’re listening to people who are.

Who are just feeding them nonsense. I agree. I think it’s. If you got. You got a lot of money out there, somebody start another guy that. Only this time, you know, like, like we had it at the beginning where we’re unafraid to approach all these subjects. I guarantee you’ll make your money. Okay, well, thank you very much for joining the program.
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