Who is executing the depopulation plans?

Right. So I’m quickly trying to get this other business up and running. I’m raising rabbits and guinea pigs. The big ones, the meat ones. Yeah. So that’s how I’m doing. And then I think you probably feel this. I know a lot of people do. Just like talking to my neighbor the other day, and she wanted to come over to see the bunnies and. Really great young woman, runs a restaurant, you know, bought a house, and she’s thinking she’s going to build a pool and maybe make a small garden. And I’m like, oh, my God, she has.

There’s. There’s never going to be a pool and a small garden, and your restaurant is going to go bankrupt this summer, this winter, you know, like, they can’t see it. I wish I didn’t see what I see. Yeah. I mean, on the one hand, I guess I’m grateful for having the eyes to see it, but I don’t know that I like what I’m looking at as far as the future. Not just the future, but the general public’s reaction to the future is. My bigger fear is that, you know, if it’s just that they’re monkeying with us and we have to adjust, that’s one thing.

You have to take care of yourself, but you also have to account for everybody else who’s not taking care of themselves having the epiphany all at the same time. Oh, I need to pay attention or I need to go get food or I’m hungry or something’s happened in my city and the food stopped, you know, arriving. Well, your body’s going to tell you you got to go out and get some food. So what are you going to do? Well, you’re going to start doing things that you didn’t do before. You’re going to start behaving in a way you didn’t behave ever.

Yeah. You can have thoughts in your head that you that you. You didn’t want to have, about what you might need to do to get food. And. And this has all been very theoretical. Maybe, you know, you preppers. You know, you prepper. Maybe your preppers are right, but you’re all kind of crazy. Oh, yeah, hold on. I got my hat. I just made one the other day. Oh, good. There you go. That’s perfect. I thought I would just go as myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. That’s great. Yeah. Everybody else is taken. You might as well just go as yourself.

But this is a weird. You know, it’s like if you’ve been practicing and you’ve been. You’ve been doing dress rehearsals all the time, and for this big performance that never comes, there’s part of you that, because you’re prepared, you want to show your preparedness. But. Boy, in the. But upon further review, you know what that means. You know what that means. You know that if you have to. If it’s time for you to. To shine and it’s time for everybody to say, we all owe Marjorie an apology. That’s good for you, but it’s bad for everybody else, because if we’re at that point where everybody’s apologizing to you, the wheels have come off.

They never do that. You know, it’s really. But let me step back. I think I know you real well. This is Charlie Robinson, and the current owner of activist pontoon, host, author of many, many, many books, and the latest one, I have it on audible, so I don’t have one to hold up. There you go. Perfect. The octopus of population control. You have this octopus theme going, and I totally understand why. It’s like the tentacles of this. These things that are managing the planet are real. But I love Charlie’s work. We say, see you all the time at Anarchapulco.

Just legitimate, honest, like, if you really want to know what’s going on on the planet and you think you can stomach it, you know, I wish I was right. I wish I was writing about unicorns and rainbows and all that fun stuff, you know, but this is. And I probably feel the same way you feel about this. It’s. I feel compelled to do it. I would love to be writing about other things. I wish that this. You know, I’ve never wanted to be wrong about something more in my life than the things that I see coming our way.

I don’t wish this on us. I’m not trying to speak it into existence or anything weird like that. It’s just. It’s more like I see some, I see the direction we’re headed and I see what it looks like, you know, who’s in charge of this? And I have big, big questions about the direction of humanity. And again, my newest book is about depopulation. And in writing that you know that they, I know that these groups actively want depopulation. So it’s one thing if you, if you feel like you’re in a, in a very strange period of time, but you know that, let’s just say you believe that your government is looking out for you and is going to try and protect you.

And that’d be one thing. But you know, from writing the books I write, I know that the government isn’t coming to help you. In fact, they’re the ones perpetrating all of this. They’re the ones that want you to be fearful and scared and they’re the ones that will create the situations that will probably lead to starvation for some people. And I don’t like any of this, but again, it’d be doing a disservice if I didn’t speak out about it because I clearly see what’s happening and their agenda and they talk openly about it. I’m not speculating about their agenda.

I don’t need to tell you exactly what they want to do. The quotes, the quotes in the book are crazy. It’s just like every other paragraph you’ve got, like they’re just telling you, I think the book, all the quotes in the book are just totally worth it for the book. Like that’s how I feel. Mind boggling. They just tell you. So I’ve always had this question. Let’s go into that. You mentioned a little bit of the, you know, we’re always talking about the they and the them. And maybe they’re the WEF and it’s a CIA and you know, the Israelis and whatever.

But you fact. And I’ve always said, well, yeah, I really love to spend some time and dial in like who really are the. They’re, you know, raising rabbits and whatever. And I was so grateful when your book came along because you, you really got it dialed into. Basically two groups are the they. Yeah, yeah. Why don’t you like. So that, why don’t you riff a little bit on the, on the two groups? Because. Yeah, yeah. And I’m the same way. I was like, who is this group? Right. So I look at 9 11, I go, well, they’re involved in 9 11.

So who is this group? And in my, when I first started writing the book, I was of the belief that it was one group. And the reason why I thought that was because I’m looking at 9, 11 and I’m watching everybody there working together. But what I discovered was that it’s actually, I got bad news. It’s not one group that’s trying to kill you, it’s two. And they’re very different in their mentality and their reasoning for doing what they want to do. They, they sometimes work together, but mostly they, they’re separate. And, and I had, I, I looked back, I didn’t know how far back I wanted to go, but I figured it would, I needed to go back to about the mid-1800s.

But that’s not to say that this mentality didn’t exist before that. I just, There’s a point at which you get, it’s too obscure, you go back too far and people can’t connect to it. But I wanted to talk about, let’s talk about the, you know, the old timey British white guys, you know, the Darwin’s and Galton’s and Huxley’s and, and all of the people who are coming up with the, what they would later call scientific racism. Now the British had been colonizing the world for hundreds of years and they were going in and murdering millions of people in India and things like that.

And it was really bad for public relations and, and so they needed to come up with a reason for doing what they were doing. And it can’t just be because these people don’t look like you or they’re black or brown or whatever. Has to be something else. And so they, they got these really smart guys, the, the, the scientists of the world to, to come up with this, you know, give us a scientific justification for our racism. You know, like, don’t just say that we’re better than like show us on the charts how all these people and show us the theory of evolution and how everybody’s a little bit different.

And so they used the, what they called scientific races. I mean the science of justifying it with, you know, it’s not us saying that we’re better than everybody else. It’s the science. You know, it’s the original trust the science back in the, in the late 1800s, mid-1800s. And they would go around and then this group which I just describe as the wasps, right, the white Anglo Saxon Protestant group. This is the, this is who you think these are. Milner Roundtable, Cecil Rhodes, Darwin, Galton, Huxley, the Fabian clubs, the X Club, the Rockefellers and Carnegie and JP Morgan not just the British, but now we’re in the Eastern establishment, the northeast of America.

The JP Morgans and Fords and Harrimans and Bushes and all of that group, the Rockefeller clan, which came out of room 5600, which was their private office, which conceptualized the United nations and all of these, all of these later groups that would come out of there. This group involves the Vatican, the CIA, the Paperclip Nazis, the World Economic Forum. Right. It’s a big group. And I, and I thought nations. Who? Everyone. Yeah, all that. Let me just stop for a minute. When I’m reading your book and like you’re calling out names and organizations and like, they have infiltrated.

It looked to me like any organization bigger than one person that had any power, it was like, you know, and a bunch of them I knew, but then more of them like, oh, man, you know, and. Yeah, keep going though. So, yeah, Those are the WASPs. Yeah, these are the WASPs. And so the way they look at the world is like this. We are the builders of society over the last hundreds of years. The British East India Company, we use that to colonize. The sun never set on the British Empire. We built the world. We created the systems, we enforced the order.

We need to manage this. We need to manage the herd, we need to manage the animal farm. And so the way they see this is, I’ll be damned if we’re going to build these systems and they’re going to decay. Right. We’re going to keep this, we’re going to keep it up, we’re going to manage it, we’re going to maintain it. But part of what we need to do to maintain this is we have to keep control on the population of these Third World countries. Because if we, if we go into Bangladesh and we, and we create the textile industry for our, all our companies that we represent and the population goes from 60 million to 400 million, we got problems.

Everything will be, you know, we can’t do. So we have to make sure that before we go in, we set up arrangements with the governments that we can manage the population. So when Kissinger wrote National security study memorandum 200 in on December 10, 1974, that outlined America’s policy towards the Third World as that of depopulation. And they went ahead and named 13 countries that they were going to start depopulating. It wasn’t accidental. These were the, the, the. This was going to be the future of where they were going to build their industry. And so they needed to make sure that the population was, was managed.

Now you can, you can, you can almost see the, the logic there. It’s mass murder. It’s not good, it’s all, it’s all bad. But you can, you can understand their thinking, right? We built the systems, we’re going to maintain the systems. The systems only work when we’ve got a certain number of people. Anything beyond that and we in the system breaks down. So we have to maintain it, right? So that’s one group and I thought that was the, and I couldn’t figure out how the other people fit into it. But there’s a second group and the second group are the Sabbatian Francis.

And the Sabbatian Francis. This comes out of like the 1600s. This is a very dark belief system which is we do all of the most awful things that we can do to everybody that we can do in order to free ourselves. It’s a very wonky belief system. It doesn’t, it doesn’t, it doesn’t make sense unless you’re a bad person trying to justify how you’re being a bad person. So, so this group, this group is the destroyers of culture. They are the, they create wars, they, they create the debt slavery, they create the actual slavery system. And these are the ones running, running.

These are the Zionist faction, the, the Satanic Jews, the, the Chabad Lubovitch cult, the Black Cube of Saturn Child cult, the Greater Israel Project, the Kazarian Name stealers, the, the Rothschilds. And in this group, right, this group, yeah, is really dangerous because they believe that they are on a mission from some non human entity that is telling them that they need to, you know, do what thou wilt and destroy society so that, you know, we can rebuild the Third Temple. And so, you know, if you’re, if you’re trying to get a handle on the depopulation agenda and you come across these two groups, the WASP group, you can understand where they’re, where they’re going with it.

You can, you can reason with them, you can explain why what they’re doing is bad. The Sabbathee and Frank is good luck with them. They believe that they’re dealing with some God that is telling them to do, to be the worst people possible to, to create all of this chaos. Because in, through the chaos you’re then relieved of all of your guilt and sin and all. It’s just very inverted. And so when I’m watching, when I’m at night looking at 9, 11, all the devils are there. It’s both the groups, right? And so I’m looking at this going how did this happen? And what I discovered was that in the 50s there was a group in Europe called Laser Kel, the Circle in French.

And this was a kind of like a Bilderberg type group where it was wealthy industrialists who were in Europe that the. If you owned a German coal mine or a steel plant in France or something, if those families would be a part of this group. Laser Cal, they invited David Rockefeller over to a meeting in the 50s and they had such a good time with him that they decided that they really needed to do this more and they needed to have like an American version of it. And so they started that in the 60s. And so it became this situation where there was a European faction and an American faction that were worked well together.

In the 90s, the American faction did something different. They started allowing Jews into their group. And not just any, just this group, this real dangerous group. They brought them in. And when you look at the George. So then. So you go a decade in and you get to 2000 when George W. Bush rotates into office. And this is where you get both groups coming together. Through Lee Sir Kel, you get the George W. Bush Project for a New American Century Zionist, the group that wrote Rebuilding America’s Defenses where we need a catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor.

Those are all the Sabbati and Frankus sect that’s in the George W. Bush administration. There’s a few other people in the George W. Bush administration that were holdovers from his father’s group, Cheney and Rumsfeld. These are the WASP faction, right? So you’ve got that group that comes in recycled from George H.W. bush into the W administration. So you’ve got the peanut Zionists of George W. Bush. You’ve got the WASPs of George W. H.W. bush all in one group working together for 9 11. That’s the reason why I got thrown off. It’s because I mistakenly thought it was one group.

In actuality it’s two. And an event like 911 gives them both what they need. The WASPs, they get a trillion dollars a year for their military industrial complex. They can spend that. They get their oil companies get full access. We can redraw all the maps in the Middle east, the the Sabbathee and Francis for them. All of their enemies get destroyed. Seven countries in five years up in smoke, right? They get their ally America to do all the work for them and pay for it. It’s perfect for them. They get their enemies destroyed. They get a greater chance to start the Greater Israel Project.

And where we are now. So in retrospect, looking at that event, I realized that from time to time they’ll work together, but they’re not friends and they don’t want the same things and that. And once I got clear on the two groups, then it sort of made sense. Of course, it wasn’t. It wasn’t great that I came to that. That conclusion, because I’d rather there just be one group that we have to focus on. Because now, you know, I was sort of with the American empire. Everyone’s like, well, the American empire is a problem. Like, we need to have bricks.

You know, the bricks needs to come. It’s like, oh, I don’t know about that because I always think of the American empire as like some big drunken lunatic in the bar who’s just going around starting fights with everybody. Now you’ve got two of them now, if you want the bricks to come in, now you’ve got two lunatics who are in there. And I don’t know if that’s going to. To be the solution, but that’s sort of where I got in this whole thing is that the bad. The good news is I think I know who’s involved.

The bad news is I think there’s two groups instead of one. So, yeah, I got a question for you about the longevity of it. It has always astounded me, you know, and your book is loaded with references like the. The Club of Rome, like in the 1960s or something, is making up climate change, you know. You know, and here it, you know, like the time frame in which they’re working is way beyond a human lifetime. And yet they seem to continually and consistently, you know, work on those plans. And I’ve just always wondered. Now, clearly the people on top that we can see, you know, the Bill Gates or the.

I just saw a clip of Bill Clinton, a super old guy now, and they’re questioning him about Jeffrey Epstein, and he’s picking up a mug and his hand is shaking, you know, like, I don’t know if it’s because he’s so nervous about the hearing he’s in or whether he’s just like his nervous system. They apparently don’t have access to any longevity drugs or anything like that at the level that they’re at. But do you think that they’re like, I would not. I mean, longevity is a thing, and I would not be surprised if there weren’t some longevity technology or something that’s available at some level.

Do you think that’s it? Or how do you Think they are able to maintain this consistency over. I was just reading back up a little bit the V for Vendetta, you know The Remember, remember the 5th of November. And I was looking up some of the history of that and it’s from the 1600s when this, what’s his name, he was so upset and he was trying to fight an incredibly difficult government that was very, very unfair and he was going to blow it up. It was a gunpowder day. I mean this has been going on a long time, right? You know, we’ve been watching about Global resets every 350 years.

Like the last one was in the 1600s and prior to that the 1350s seems to correlate to sun movements but they also collapse financial systems. Bring on, you know, I mean it’s like this goes this. I know you, you said I didn’t want to, you didn’t want to go too much past the 1800. You don’t need to. My God, the book is already long enough. I know, but do you have any insights on to how they can possibly maintain that kind of focus? It’s actually impressive, you know, I mean they’re diabolical. I’m not trying to give them any credit but the multi generational aspect of this is interesting because when you’re planning world government or world governance as they are, you know it’s going to take a while.

You can’t be too short sighted, you can’t rush it. And David Ike calls it the totalitarian tiptoe, right? You don’t go from A to Z all at once. You go from A to B and then from B to C and C to Z. And if you do it incrementally, if you take a long term approach, if you, if you say we’ve got to overthrow this government in the next 18 months, you’ll make mistakes and it’ll be pretty obvious. If you say we need to overthrow this government in the next 80 years, then you can do it gradually and that actually is how they prefer it.

I mean the idea of them coming in and changing society drastically in a short period of time, that’s actually ineffective because it wakes people up and it creates chaos and conflict. I’m not trying to give them any ideas, but when done properly, if they do it slowly and gradually over time, you get 30 years down the road and you look back and you go, how’d we get here? You know, it wasn’t, it wasn’t. There wasn’t a big revolution, there wasn’t a war. We just incrementally allowed our rights to be taken away a little bit here, a little bit there.

And if you’re somebody who’s, who’s, who comes out of this world government business, a lot of it’s multi generational trauma based mind control on the family level so that you can be in a position to be a high ranking person in the government. And that’s kind of got the same thinking, right? It’s, it’s, everybody in there is screwed up. You keep asking, you know, people keep going, why is the government so messed up? It’s all these people in there. It’s, you think we’d get better people in government? It’s like government gives bad people everything they could possibly want.

It’s like a magnet for them. Right. It gives them power and unaccountability and you know, money and fame and kids and whatever they’re into. It’s all there. Right. So is it any surprise that you get the worst people in the world wanting to be politic? I feel like good people go, I don’t want that job. Or the old adage that the person who should be the president of the United States should be dragged kicking and screaming into office. Right. You know, that’s the person you want, you don’t want the guy who’s, who volunteers for the job.

I have questions about the guy who volunteers for this job. I think they’re going to. So, so I guess, I guess that is a good explanation because I know I’ve interviewed was that woman, she shows up at Anarchapulco from time. And when I first met her, she goes, yeah, I’m an SRA survivor. And I’m like, oh, I’m really into survival and preparedness. What’s sra? And she goes a little different. Yeah, Satanic ritual abuse. And I’m like, her name is going to come to Max. Anyway, she was telling when, when she was a baby, like her mom was completely mind control.

And when she was a baby they started on it. And throughout her childhood there was all kinds of abuses and tests and her mom had been programmed to go back to Rome every summer and for Christmas. And she has actually been down in the basement of the Vatican involved in, you know, that stuff. And somehow she, she came out of it. Her name will come to me in just a minute. But other SR survivors that are coming out now that are managing to get out of it, they are that, I, I guess that must be it.

You know, they just get you from such a young age and programming you. Yeah, yeah. And, and, and, and Again, it’s. It’s tempting for us to export our goodness, like, onto, like. I would never do that. Well, yeah, you wouldn’t. I would never do that either. But they have been exposed to other things. They were treated poorly as children, as you mentioned. The SRA component of this. Look, the pedophilia is the glue that connects all these people together. It just is. I wish it wasn’t. I mean, it’s. It’s the. It’s the darkest of dark, but. But it is.

It. It keeps them all in check. It keeps them bound together, it keeps them quiet. And. And people who get on their. On the wrong side of that, well, they find out the hard way. But these groups have been doing, I think the one. You know, it’s just tough for people to look at this and they go, this has been going on for a long time at all. You know, I’ve got these quotes I want to read. This quote from you mentioned the Club of Rome. These are the two guys. These are the guys that started the club of Rome, Dr.

Alexander King. He also started NATO, and he was extremely involved in Tavistock Institute. They wrote this book in 1991. And it’s funny because I always feel like if people would just read some of these quotes. That’s the reason why there’s hundreds of quotes in this book. If you would just read what they’re saying. Not what I’m saying. I know what I’m saying and I know what I think. But take me out of it. Like, what if you heard, like I say, that climate change is nonsense, right? Yes. They’re manipulating the weather and things like that. There’s.

They’re definitely doing some things. But the idea that we just woke up one day and climate change happened, I say it’s nonsense, but you could say, well, maybe you’re not in a position to know. Well, what if the guy who started the concept of climate change tells you it’s bullshit? Here’s. Here’s Dr. Alexander King from his book, by the way. He didn’t just get drunk on a hot mic and record this somewhere. He wrote it in a book. He says, in searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.

In their totality and in their interactions, these phenomena do constitute a common threat which demands the solidarity of all peoples. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap about which we have already warned, namely, mistaking symptoms for causes. All these Dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that, that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself. There you go, man. Yeah, like I said, the quotes, the quotes in this book are just mindboggling. And I went and double checked a bunch of them on.

You know, I was like this, this and, and you’re, you know, you’re right on. Yeah, you have to double check them. You read them and you go through so many scenarios. Like, so Bill Gates is over in Africa and they, you know, sterilize a bunch of women, offering them some supposed health care. And then over here they’re doing that. I think here in Puerto Rico there was a bunch of women that they sterilized. And, and then, and then of course, all the wars they do just, you know, they do their best. I’m like, I’m like, I’m halfway through the book and I’m like, why isn’t everybody on the planet dead right now? Like, and that brings up the question of what is the actual population? Yeah, I’ve talked to people.

You can go to the United nations own website and they will give you a spreadsheet with a list of the most populous cities in the world, up to like 70,000 or something. And you can add that whole thing up very easily. It’s just a little something. And it only comes up to about 2.1 billion. Their own data. Right. It, it. So, but how do we know population? And that was, that was, that was my first question. That was where I started the book, you know, hey, how do we know there’s 8 billion people on the planet? You know what I mean? Like, let’s start there.

We’re overpopulated. That’s what they tell us. The planet is overpopulated. We need to, you know, we need to thin the herd. Well, who’s giving me the numbers? United nations spent the entire book talking about how the United nations is not to be trusted. So, okay, I have questions about. So what I did was I went around and I said, well, I’m not going to go, I’m not going to do every country. That’s too much. But let’s, let’s take a look at China and India because they’re the ones that say they’re over a billion people. So there aren’t a billion people in China and there aren’t a billion people in India.

They are lying about those numbers. I know it looks like there’s a billion people in India. If you watch, if you’re on social media, it looks like they’re all trying to get on the same train at the same time. I understand that, but that is not what’s going on in big cities are overcrowded for sure. The, the, it’s all breaking down in like these big cities. But I added up the populations of the big cities. I added up the populations of the top 300 biggest cities in India and if those numbers are correct, when you add all those, there needs to be another billion people in the small cities in order for India’s population to be accurate.

After you get through those 300, there needs to be a hundred thousand cities in India that have 10,000 people that, that are out in the, out in the rural area. It’s just, it’s just impossible. It’s just not true. They’ve been lying about China for 30 years, had a one child policy like how can their population keep growing? They can’t. I spent time in China during that period and the one child policy thing was legit. I mean it actually created a really distorted generation of single children which is a whole psychological thing that I think is a mess.

But, and trying to work with them was interesting. China had they, that one child policy started in 1980. They had three famines and a genocide and a forced one child policy for 40 years. So they’re in and they, and they expect you to believe that their population quadrupled during that time. Possible now killed 73 million people in a 12 year period. Oh my gosh. Yeah. You know, in their starvation and they were moving them from. So it, so my point was, and then I went and looked at cell phone data in India. There’s like only like 650 million cell phones there and the numbers didn’t work.

So I had some questions, you know, right off the bat about, you know, frankly, if the United nations wants to kill a billion people, all they have to do is make an accounting adjustment because those billion people don’t exist to begin with. And they could, you know, because their numbers are, are wonky. They give, there’s incentives for countries to lie about their population. It’s very weird. India has, I mean their records are written in pencil. The whole thing is, is it’s impossible. And you know, not for nothing, the culture lies. They lie about all their, they lie about their qualifications, they lie about who they are, where they’re coming from, how many of them there.

They lie about everything. So it’s, they’re not to be trusted at all. So, and I didn’t want to dwell on it too much, but I just started the intro with, hey, you know, I don’t think there’s 8 billion people here to begin with. And I think that the people who are telling you that we’re overpopulated, they’re lying to you about that. They definitely want to depopulate, but their reason for depopulating isn’t because we’re overcrowded or isn’t because they’re altruistic and they want to help. It’s that they. They just think that there are too many people on their planet and they’re gonna replace you with robots anyway.

So you got it. You’re gonna need to go some at some point here. So. So is it the Georgia guidestones that are talking about, you know, really, they would like to get it down to 500 million is. Is what they think is a manageable. And it is very interesting. You know, I see different conspiracy theories which are turning out to be way more accurate than anything else, but they don’t all come true. But anyway, yeah, it looks like anywhere from half to 95% of the population they want to reduce. What is your. So the vax, the vaccine, the COVID experience.

A lot of us were in the alternative scene. We’re thinking, oh my God, this is it. We know within two years we’re going to see half of the people dead. Now, I guess they don’t act that fast. I mean, we definitely. Huge amount of women now can’t reproduce if you took the vax, a lot of miscarriages. And then of course, I have numerous friends that have really strange diseases that the medical system doesn’t know what they’re for. And, you know, they’re slowly deteriorating into more and more pain. And they’re. They’re really also pushing euthanasia as a.

I think there’s what, 13 countries now where euthanasia is like, available and easily. And then Canada is the leader on that. Like, it’s being. This is a really good option for you, you know, like. But what do you think about the. You know, there’s also the vaccines as having all that nanotechnology in it so that, you know, the 5G and soon the 6G network be very easy to do a kill switch and just wipe out a bunch of people. Or at the very least just control all their thoughts and emotions. Feels like that’s happened already. Right? I put a quote in there from Rudolf Steiner.

It was like a hundred years ago. He was talking about a vaccine that would. That would sever you from your soul. You know, that would take. That would oh, and you think, like, this has been a concept that they’ve wanted for a long, long time. You know, that this idea of vaccines coming in and doing something. There’s a. I put an episode of Macroaggressions out several years ago called Where did all the People Go? And it turned. It just blew up into this big episode. I then later took that episode and put it as a chapter in this book.

And the reason why this. This episode did as well as it did was because I was. I was trying something here. I discovered something that I thought, well, I discovered something. I then talked to my producer and said, I’ve got this episode. I don’t even think I want to put it out. It’s so dark. And he said, record it, and then I’ll listen to it and then I’ll. I’ll tell you. I’ll give you my thoughts on whether or not you should. I think you should put it out. I said, okay, cool. So I recorded the episode.

I said, all right, it’s in Riverside. You can go in there and listen to it. And so he. About two hours later, I get a call from him, and he says, you have to put this out. You absolutely, positively have to put this episode out. This is the most important episode you’ve ever done. And I was like, okay, fine. So I did. I put it out and it went crazy. What I discovered in this was I took a look at. Are you familiar with the Deagle Report? Have you heard of the Deagle Report? That was one of the conspiracy theories that, like, you know, I was all like, okay, yeah, we’re supposed to be down to like, 99 million here in the US by 2025 or something like that.

So we were all watching that. That’s what I thought the vax was all about, actually. So me too. So I’m. I’m looking at. So the Deagle, for those who don’t know, Deagle is military industrial contractor. They’re like. They’ll be the ones that tell you how many helmets the military of Belarus needs to order for the next 10 years based on. You know what I mean? Like, they’re log Dick’s company. They’ll help you. So they put out a chart in. I think 2014 might have been 2013, but the chart referenced the years 2015 to 2025, and it showed populate.

Now, the reason why I know this came out before 2015, because I remember reading this chart before we were even in the first year, and I put it in my first book, which came out in 2017. So I had been all over it for a while. Now, in this chart, it shows the population in 2015 of Western all the countries of the world. And it’s broken down by country, but basically the western countries show a population that is at one rate in 2015 and is 70% lower by 2025. Not 7%. 70. Yes. And there’s no corresponding in migration.

So the population of America goes from 340 to 99, but the population of Canada doesn’t increase by 200 million. The population of Mexico, like, there’s no place you’re trying to look. Where did the people go? Did they go to Canada? They go to Mexico? Nope, because they’re down 70% as well. You’re going, okay, what is going on? What does this company know that we don’t know? Now, in 2015, you’re reading this chart, or I’m reading the chart, and I’m going, well, maybe. I know it sounds crazy, but maybe I’ll keep an eye on this. And if it’s real, maybe they know something we don’t know.

Well, 2020 comes, and Covid kicks off, and we start to go, okay, so the vaccine rollout, and everybody’s. You know, they’re forcing everybody to take it. And there’s still that chart, that 2025. And I’m writing this episode in 2022. So I’m a few years before we’ve hit the chart, and I stumble across this document from the international cdc. Now, I didn’t even know there was an international cdc. I just thought of the American cdc. But this. This international version had a great document that broke down vaccine uptake by country. Every single country was on it. The.

The uptakes ranged from anywhere on the low end to just a little bit above 50%. Like, 52% was the lowest of the low, all the way to the high end, which was China at 90%. They had 90% for the first two shots, and then they didn’t have a booster. So I go through all these. I go through all these CDC numbers, and everybody has taken a ton of shots, you know, at least 50%, but. But the bottom 17 countries on this international CDC list, anyone who’s, like, from 52 to, like, 57%, I’m looking at all these because I want to see who’s at the bottom, who.

Who wouldn’t take it. And I go, man, these names look familiar. I grabbed that Deagle report. I go back and look at that, and the bottom. The only 17 countries in the Deagle report That showed a positive increase in population. Every single country was down, except the bottom 17 were all pointing up. They were increasing by a little bit. Not a lot. Those countries were identical to the bottom 17 on the international CDC’s list of the lowest vaccine uptake. And I just went, oh, my God, this maybe. Maybe this is connected, you know, correlation. Cause I don’t know.

But I put that together and then. And said, look, you know, we haven’t hit this threshold yet of 2025. Well, now, between the time I put the podcast episode out and. But between the time I put the book episode out, 2025 has come and gone. 70% of the people have not disappeared from the planet. So you could probably say that that chart was incorrect. But I asked the question, what if the chart is just off by three years? You know what I mean? Like, what if things have shifted just a couple, you know, a few years.

Everybody has taken these vaccines. It might stand to reason that the drop off for this population collapse has to do with that. Right. So it’s. We’re still in speculation land. But I put those things together and it’s. It. It really scared people, and rightly so. That’s a. That’s a really interesting piece that I had not thought about. Yeah, I downloaded that spreadsheet right away, and sure enough, you go to the Deagle site. Now, it’s not there, but you can find it mirrored out there if you look for it. Some. Some hearty souls are keeping it alive on the Internet.

But. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I’ve got list of questions. I want to get a couple more in, but, you know, like, we can go for hours. I don’t want to go for hours. Let. Two points I definitely want to hit, and one is so. Well, the eugenics and transgender you talk about. Like, transgender is actually just a rebranding for eugenics. Transhumanism or transhumanism. I’m sorry, not transgender. Yeah, transhumanism is just a rebranding of it. And there are some conversations that thinning the herd, the human herd, you know, I mean, quite honestly, a bunch of us who are, like, aware of what’s going on, we’re going, oh, my God, how can these people be so stupid? Like, you know, maybe thinning the herd would be a good idea.

Like, I don’t. You know, that’s horrible. Right? That’s a horrible conversation. But, you know, life might be a lot better when there’s only smart people around or something like that. That’s the. That is the inherent problem with this book, this is the reason why it took me four summers across three years is because from time to time you come across their ideas and you start agreeing with them. Yeah. That’s when it gets, that’s when you go, whoa, hang on, where am I? Because you see these, the Dalton, the Galtons and Huxleys and Darwin’s of the world, these were not uneducated men.

They were brilliant in their time. They were incorrect in their assessment. It’s just that their assessment was cruel and, you know, it sounds bad. And so you get to a point where, you know, they start talking about, you know, who needs, who’s moving forward in this, who gets thinned out. And, and, and because they view themselves as the farmers on this animal farm, the decisions that they make, the way they actually come at this is that, you know, you guys should be thanking us for the, for doing the dirty work that needs to be done to keep these systems running.

You know what I mean? They don’t, they don’t apologize for their mentality of thinning the herd because the way they see it, the weak need to go, you know, the, the lame need to go, we can’t, we can’t take the whole herd with us. You know, and so when you get into the, the darkness is when you start agreeing with them. The darkness is when you see the component and you go, well, they’re not wrong in that assessment. It might sound bad and it might ultimately be cruel what they’re doing, but the calculations that they’ve made are not incorrect.

And, and again, if it was just some guy standing on a street corner talking to a shoe about depopulation, you’d be, it’d be easy to dismiss it. These are the leading industry. These are the men of leading industries. These are the most brilliant people of their time. And they’re making an argument that actually holds water to a certain extent. But the problem is that you, the way it happens and the thinning of the herd never stops. You know, and good people get, get, get taken out too. And this isn’t, this isn’t. You know, Margaret Sanger talks about pulling human weeds, you know, in this imaginary garden that she’s had.

You know, it’s. Conceptually, I understand where she’s coming from, but you can’t tell a person they’re a human weed without there being negative repercussions. People aren’t going to want to be a part of your, your, your project anymore if you sell it like that. So again, this was part of, this was like the, you Know, some of these people were clinically insane, like certifiably insane. The Huxley family in and out of and out of insane asylums constantly their entire lives. Aldous Huxley would come in the nut house and then he’d leave. Julian Huxley would check in.

His brother Travian Huxley was in there at the same time he killed himself in the insane asylum. So now there’s only two brothers. Sir Julian Huxley, the founder of, of UNESCO, the founder of the World Wildlife Fund, the found the head of the British Eugenics Society, the creator of the concept of transhumanism. And you were, you were mentioning that earlier. This is a really important concept that people need to hear. In 1957, Julian Huxley was the head of the British Eugenics Society, and they were having a massive public relations battle because eugenics is mass murder. And everybody was figuring that out.

And so he said, we have got to get a handle on this. We’re going to change the name. And he rebranded eugenics into, into something else, something aspirational and futuristic. The term he chose was transhumanism. Right. And you know, that’s, that’s the rebranding, which would be one thing, but nowadays, when you hear Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum talking about the fourth Industrial Revolution, the blending of man with machine into transhumanism, that the sales pitch that most people get from that is that, oh, it’s, you know, robot arms and injection vaccines and maybe, you know, whatever.

Vision upgrades. Yeah, they always start with the paraplegics, of course. Oh, yeah, of course. Because how could you. Oh, you don’t want, you don’t want this guy to regain his ability to walk? Well, of course I do. Yeah. If it was just that, I’d be on, on board with it. But they. That’s the sales pitch. But transhumanism is a rebranding of eugenics, and most people aren’t going to know that. So when they talk about, you know, we’ve got to take this to the next level and transhumanism and all of that, it’s important for people to get clear on the terms because what they say it is and what we perceive and assume that it is are two vastly different things.

And if you don’t know the difference in the words, you’re going to be caught off guard. And of course, we come out of an era where the definition of vaccination was changed twice during COVID so we understand that it’s important for them to get a handle on these words and what they mean and what you think they mean. So transhumanism isn’t just, you know, moving into the future with your augmented reality. It’s a future for sure, but it doesn’t include you. I have been becoming more and more aware and conscious of what words I’m using and looking at their etymology because there’s so much in our world has been distorted by the language that we think.

Just riffing quickly on that, where you were at with the transhumanism, there’s some conversations now that people that have so much MRNA technology in them, they’re no longer really human and that actually they may become the property of whoever, you know, moderna or whoever created that MRNA injected them with all that technology. So, you know. Yeah, I also. One other quick thing, just for your information, I work with a naturopath as an IS Doc Will, and he uses some Tesla coil scanning machines to do a whole scan of your health organs, everything. And one of the lines on there is your divine light.

How much is your divine Light connection? And he says with every single person that he’s seen vaccinated, their divine light has gone to zero or a very small number. He has been able to get some of them to be able to get it back up again with different things that he’s using and all that. But I found that very interesting and it reminded me of Steiner’s prediction also. So, you know, yeah, transhumanism is. They’re, they’re turning people into the Borg, basically. Yeah. And you mentioned the, you know, sort of speculated about this. What happens when you get so many MRNA jabs in your body that, that at some point, maybe not today, but maybe at the future, you cross some legal threshold where you no longer become human, you’re transhuman, you have so many foreign parts in you that have better patented that maybe, you know, somebody else owns that you’re no longer really human.

You technically classify as transhuman. And if you do, then human rights don’t apply to you. Next thing you know, you can be traded slave, you know, enslaved and thrown into a trash dumpster. I mean, whatever, because legally you’re, you’re not a human. So I wonder about that. And people may go, well, that sounds a bit far fetched and crazy, I agree. But Monsanto’s already done that with their, you know, going around and suing as their GMO tomato seeds, you know, through natural processes, wind up in somebody else’s farm and start growing GMO tomatoes there against that farmer’s will.

Monsanto was suing them and winning. Right? So I take that, I mean, I take that line of thinking of the way they view their intellectual property and I don’t know why they wouldn’t think about that in terms of it going into humans. At some point you may be in some sort of copyright infringement with, with Moderna because you’ve taken too many vaccines. And now they’re saying, hey, we technically own you. I mean, you got to pay us or something, you know, something along those lines. It’ll be one guy, it’ll happen in some legal procedure, it’ll be case law.

And then they’ll say after now we got to get that guy. From now on it’s been set. Now Monsanto is going to sue. Whatever. You know, I mean, I’m making this up, I’m speculating, but the idea is that you may be legally classified as no longer a human being. And if that is the case then, then we’ve got, we’ve opened up a really big can of worms because then you’ve got a two tiered society where, you know, we all look human, but maybe you’re, you know, Animal Farm. Everybody’s equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

You know, maybe on the Animal farm that will experience that. It’s, it’s, it’s crazy to think about being involved in food production. We have seen that over and over again. That whole, you know, agricultural drift of genetics. And then, you know, there was, there was a spate of suicides in India with farmers that this happened to and they. Yeah, so that’s a horrible mess. I want to hit on one other thing and this was wonderful. I really, the one thing that I really recommend the most out of this book is the conclusion. And I’m listening to it on Audible, it’s less than 20 minutes.

And you just really lay out like the thing that is happening on the planet, all their plans. Every you, you can just, it’s just brilliantly laid out like in a very short and concise way. So anybody really, you know, if you want to see it nailed out for you. But one thing that really struck me about it was a piece that I was just, I’m just becoming aware of and you were saying that access to AI so now there’s this big push, right? You know, oh my God, AI is going to kill all the human beings on Earth.

But you should invest in Anthropic during our IPO next month. This is the most confusing marketing story ever. But you know, all the, everywhere I’m seeing, all their, all their Paid influencers talking about how the government really needs to step in, they really need to control AI, you know, Mike Adams, and there’s a whole force of people that are working to like, how do you get your own AI at home? And that’s actually one of my next projects. But you were talking about it, and I can see this, I could see this being a logical progression based on watching everything else they’ve ever done throughout my life.

And you were saying that they would. Access to AI would be completely limited to, except to a few who would kind of become the priests of information. And you know, if you wanted to ask questions or if you needed information, you’d have. Have to go through that to be able to access the AI. And yeah, I just thought I’d riff on that. That was in the conclusion, by the way. And it’s really well written. Yeah, Well, I kind of felt like it was like a new priest class, you know, like, oh, I can’t talk to God.

I have to talk to the priest and the priest can talk to God. Right. So can’t we get ourselves. Or would we get ourselves in a situation where it’s like, well, you can’t talk to the AI God. You, you have talked to me and. Because I know how to ask the right questions and the right way to do it and, and I think, truth be told, there is kind of a right way to do it, you know, with, with AI, with the prompting and, and I think there’s a case can be made that if somebody’s like a young person who’s really good with AI, bill yourself as an AI prompt jockey and go get yourself hired somewhere else.

Right. I know how to write the, the perfect prompts for AI. I know how to ask them the right questions to get the answers that you can’t ask. Right. So there’s, there’s already going to be. Some people are better than others at getting to the information. And I just have this, you know, unfortunately, I wish I didn’t have the vision, but, but of, of it being like. The best way I can describe it is a priest class that, that they, you have to go to them and then they will just have the conversation with AI, their God, and they’ll get you the answers in the aftermath.

And of course, anytime there’s an intermediary, you run the risk of the message getting blurred or they want to shake you down for money, or there’s some, some you’ve now put something in between you and the message and that can create a problem. And of course they love problems and they love having people in between, you know, to control the message. So, so I, I, I, you know, right now AI is like, everybody can grab it, do what you want. And I love what Mike is doing, you know, building out his own, his own personalized, you know, your, your own system.

I think that’s the direction you mentioned. That’s on your list of things to do. It’s on my list of things to do as well. And I’m not tech. Stone has a great system. It’s completely. Curtis Stone is exactly who I was thinking of because he’s been, he’s been documenting it and he’s been, here’s the details. This is what I’m using. This, this, so he’s being very upfront about hardware, is using the software that’s red then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He’ll tell you everything that you need to know about it. But, so this is, you know, look, AI, is it good? Is it bad? It’s like a gun, it’s a tool.

Depends on it. Depends on what you want to do with it. I mean, yeah, you could do some really bad things, but I’m also seeing people increase their productivity in ways that they had never dreamed of. And it gives a one man, a shop, the opportunity to look like a 15 person shop, you know, and so there’s, there’s value in that. And so I’m not going to be, you know, luddite and, and stand there and shake my fist at the sky and say, we’ve got to get rid of all this AI. We need to be better about how we use it.

We need to take responsibility for our own actions. We need to, to understand that there’s a, there could be a monster in there and you got to be careful with it. But, but I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m optimistic for the future. Even in all of this, you know, I do talk about how, you know, I don’t want it to sound like it’s, it’s just like a black pilling experience that they’re out trying to kill us. I do remind people like they make a lot of mistakes. Yes, they want to depopulate the planet, but this is like, also some of these people are like third generations and they’re, they’re not quite impressed.

Have you seen Alexander Soros? He’s no George Soros. You know what I mean? These guys are, some of these people aren’t, aren’t the most impressive. So I don’t know that I’m, I’m I’m always trying to, you know, be a little bit optimistic. Let’s riff on that for a second. I’ll tell you a story. And we do need. This is going. This is such a great conversation. I’d love to go longer, but you know, the attention span. But so I have gone. Whenever I meet somebody older, I like to ask them questions like, where were you during World War II or during, you know, 1963 in the Bay of Pigs or you know, some of these events, you know, And I asked my mom and she was born in 1920.

And I said, you know, she’s 20, 20 something year old woman at that time. So cognizant, right? Not a nine year old, right? And I said, mom. And she was living and she, she was the kind of woman that never, like back in those days, you were either a nurse or a school teacher or a wife, right? And she wasn’t going to be any of those. She worked in a nightclub in the Village in New York, had a gig doing photographs. So you take pictures, picture of like the diners at the table and then sell them the photographs.

That was her thing, right? Made a lot of money. So very much on the fringe, you know, hanging out with the artists and the whatever. So that in of that day the conspiracy theorists, right? And I said, mom, you know, what did you know about like Pearl harbor and how all the ships were put there and you know, the first admiral was fired because he wouldn’t do that, and then they put the second one in there and all the vast amount of evidence that we have now that Pearl harbor was just another gigantic psyop to get the US into World War II.

And she said, no, no, all of America was united on this. Loose lips sink ships. Now later on in life, she became very aware of what was going on and I have a lot of compassion for her because I was so in the Matrix as a young woman and I could not relate to her because. And she knew like she knew about the control systems and you know, can you imagine 20 or 30 years ago knowing about all this but having no one to talk to, no podcast, you know, like that. She had a very difficult life, I’m sure.

But, but that’s my point now, you know, like, you know, the, the 911 thing, I was real. That was like the big wake up for me was understanding that. And all kinds of these things all converge, but more and more. And although there’s not, I mean, there’s still a bunch of normies out there who are just asleep at the Wheel. But there’s a lot like you and I are talking. You’ve written a book about depopulation and thoroughly documented it. I mean, there is. There is a lot of us that are awake and aware of what’s on, going, going on.

And I’m just wondering, you know, how many of us or what I mean, is this thing. I mean, they’ve got such huge systems and they certainly like to give the marketing front that they’re in complete control of everything. But. Well, I’ll tell you what, I used to fear this because I mistakenly thought that you need 51% to change anything. Because, you know, he’s like, well, we got to have the majority. The majority of people need to feel this way about this event, and then things will change. We only need about 3. You only need about 3% of the population who’s active and vocal to really make some changes.

We’ve got that. We’ve got in every new event that they JFK, 9, 11 Covid. It wakes up a new batch of people. A new batch of people start scratching their head saying, I don’t think this. This is making sense. The question is, can our knowledge increase fast enough to do something about this? Because it feels like the time is running out while our knowledge is going up. If we can get those to intersect, we can get more people aware faster before the time runs out. You know, because there’s. There is this. There’s this concept or this thought that they are building essentially a digital prison behind us, and you want to get out or you want to get enough people aware of it before they slam the digital door shut on you.

Right. And so the question is, when is that? When does that happen? And. And so I guess the good news that doesn’t make me have to, you know, overly fearful about this is that I now no longer am of the belief that we got to get, you know, 51%, we need to get the right people vocal. And that’s happening. And every day more and more people are waking up. So I’m massively optimistic in that respect in terms of awareness. Now, will that awareness translate into action that I’m unsure of? And again, it doesn’t take everybody, not everybody who’s aware has to be active in this.

But, you know, you got to get some people who are vocal. And we go to these events, we go to Anarchapolko, and I went to Liber Polko in Serbia this year. And it’s always a reminder you’re not alone. A lot of people see this, and it’s it’s very inspiring when you get together with like minded people who also see that, you know, you’re not alone, you feel like you’re not going crazy, all those things. And then you can really kind of say, all right, well we see what’s happening now let’s take the next step of doing something about it.

Let’s put ourselves out of the way. Like, because it’s one thing if you’re just fearful about what’s happening, but the reason why we want to be aware of this is so we can do something about it, right? You’re like, you’re, you know this better than anybody. In growing food, it’d be like, oh, the just in time delivery, you know, supply chain is, is a, is a catastrophe and we’re really teetering on the edge and you could grow food. There’s a solution, right? Yeah, but you know, that is better than anybody. Not everybody wants solutions. Sometimes they just want to complain.

Sometimes they just want to say that the sky is falling, but they don’t want to get out of the, out of the way. But, but for those who are paying attention have the eyes to see it and the ears to hear it, you got time. I mean, maybe not a ton, but we’re in a relatively calm period right now where you can get things done, you can get the things that you need. But you, but the question is, where’s your head? Are you, are you there yet? Are you seeing it? Like, are you seeing it like everybody else? You’re gonna see it at some point.

Everybody’s gonna see it. It’s just when did you see it? And if you saw it early, you could plan accordingly and you can make, make some moves. And if you saw it late, you pay the price for it. So for our audiences, you know, they see it, they see what’s going on. It’s just a matter of how do we do something about it. They’re systematically destroying the energy infrastructure on the planet. Fossil fuel, I should say. And I’m pretty convinced they have other alternative sources. So they’re not concerned about destroying that. But that will impact you and I and most of us livestock on these plantations.

And that’s happening right now in front of your very eyes, right? And you know, now they’re going after all the tankers, the refineries, the two largest exporters in the world, you know this. And we’re now out. All the buffers are out. You know, I mean, this is going to be hitting very, very soon. And then there’s just no doubt there’s going to be a famine that’s going to really become apparent in 2027. And I had to put a quote in the new book from Michael Yawn mentioning the giga famine. And that’s a term, term that he sort of threw out there.

And it was such a good term that I needed to, I needed to use it. But it’s one of those things. I wish we weren’t inventing new terminology to describe potential famines. This, this sounds like a catastrophe to me. Well, even five years ago I, you know, the U.N. which is not prone to clickbait headlines, they, maybe it was more than five years ago they were talking about there will be a global famine of biblical proportions, you know, planet wide, like of biblical proportion. Like, they don’t usually do those kind of like, you know, headlines like that.

So, you know, the 20 something years ago when I got the, like, I need to learn how to grow food and I need to teach people how to grow food. And then all these years of just constantly like, this resource will be really important. Okay. Treating infections without antibody. This resource will be important. How do you forage for that? You know, this resource. How do you make sandals out of tires? You know, all these resources I’ve been gathering all these years and dealing with the, with the, you know, losing friends and family calling you nuts and you know, the whole, the whole thing and, but just continually, you know, building and working and now, now, you know, I can see it, it’s, it’s like, wow, the wisdom of the universe.

So I’m, I’ve, you know, because, and I had no idea the role that I would. And there’s lots of other people who are teaching how to grow food and how to do stuff. You’re going to be very popular here. I mean, if you’re not already. There’s going to be. A lot of people are going to wish that they had taken advantage of this downtime. You know, they wish they’d learned something of skills or got straight on stuff. You sent me that external hard drive with all of the content on that. I mean, again, this information exists in the world to get it all in one place.

Extremely appreciative of that. Thank you for that information. It’s been a crazy passion. Like I’ve been always questioning my own sanity throughout and I still, even today I’m like, good, you know, why don’t I think a pool and more people should be questioning their sanity? Look, I’m, Yeah, it’s funny because writing the books I write and doing the Podcasts I do. I just thought I was going to be talking to conspiracy theory people the whole time. And here I am talking to farmers. So people growing food, I always thought that was just an old, you know, relic, you know, going to my grandparents house in Tennessee every summer.

They have this little farm, this little garden, you know, just enough, but enough. I, that was the first time I got, I saw how much food actually gets generated. Like zucchini, which I don’t like. Yeah, more zucchini than, I mean, they would leave baskets of food on their carport and everybody knew you just come in and grab whatever you want out of the basket. That’s more food than we can eat. I mean, so many squash we need, you know, so it’s there for everybody. So you know, I learned then, even though I’m from Southern California and we did not have gardens or anything there and go to Tennessee, oh, like there’s food.

You can live here on this food. And imagine my surprise as a kid that it didn’t all come from the grocery store, it actually grew in somebody’s yard somewhere. But I think in America we have such a detached relationship with our food or the animals that come for food, how we grow it, how we get it, people just don’t want to know. And unfortunately I think that information is going to be, people are going to get an education on that whether they want to or not here pretty soon about how food is grown, how it gets to you, how it doesn’t get to you, why it doesn’t get to you and things like that.

And I’ve been, I’ve been kind of yelling at, well, yelling maybe isn’t the right word, but screaming about, about the, you know, the potato famine in Ireland and the, the, the Ukraine famine in 32 and 33, it killed 10 million people. You go with these people just stop growing food. Where the Irish forgot how to grow potatoes. It’s like, no, no, no, no. All of that stuff was still happening. They just put politicians in position of power that made it illegal for you to keep that food and made it mandatory that you export all that food.

And that’s why everybody starved to death. So it’s like. So on the one hand, you need to know how to grow food in case your government makes a calculation that they want to turn it off on you like they’ve done in Ukraine, like they’ve done in Ireland. And that was, they put the wrong politician in place and he was looking to create a starvation situation. And it happened. So, so it’s not Just, they’re doing it right now. I mean, you know, watch Christian Westbrook of Ice Age Farmer. I mean they, he is thoroughly documenting how they’re absolutely shutting down all the farmers.

The saving grace in this though is, and I don’t believe that you came here or that I came here or any of us came here to be just completely slaughtered. I mean, there’s always a way. There’s always a way. And you know, with just your own hands and a bit of soil and some water and sunlight, you, you can produce food and medicine and like we can, we can navigate through this time period. Just like the whole Covid thing, you know, if you saw what was going on, you can navigate through that whole thing without, without getting jabbed.

So a little inconvenience here and there or change of a bit of a lifestyle, but you could do it. So I’m gonna leave. I think we should wrap this up. Oh gosh, Charlie, we could go on for hours. I know, I know there’s a lot to discuss, but we’ll leave the audience wanting a little bit more. And I, and I hope if they’re interested in, again, if this book, I’ll hold it up here. The Octopus of Population Control. I agree with you. It’s. The quotes are worth the price of admission. If you only read the quotes, it’ll be worth it.

But it’s just so insightful to see how these people think about you and me when they believe that you’re not going to read it, you’re not going to hear what they say, you know, that the, the, the, the ideas that they have for us and for, for humanity moving forward are pretty, pretty dark. But we need to be aware of it, not dwell on it. But we need to be aware that there’s an active campaign out there to try and depopulate us. If for no other reason that we can get out of the way. I’m going to leave us with one final quote, and that is from George Orwell.

They fear love because it creates a world they cannot control. That’s how I ended the book. I wrapped it up with that. Yeah, that’s just such a wonderful quote because that is completely out of the purview of what they are involved in. And that is one thing that we have. We have love. Yeah. And they want, they can’t, they can’t copy that. They try to, but love is too authentic for them to, to make some sort of synthetic version of it. They would love to, but they can’t. So I got your book off of Audible. It’s on Amazon, I guess most of the booksellers available.

Arnesandnoble.com if you’re somebody who does not like Amazon, Spotify, that whole network for the audiobooks, it’s basically like syndicated through every audiobook network I could think of. I mean there were so many on there that I don’t even know, didn’t even know they existed. But yeah, the audiobook is available and I had Graham Dunlop from Grimerica do the voice. He did the voice of my first Octopus book as well. And the reason why I chose him is because I like the idea of a nice Canadian gentleman delivering this really bad news. You know, this gravelly voice that kind of holds you too.

It’s. Yeah, yeah. So I like, I like, I like audiobooks because that way I can be doing hand work or something while I’m do other stuff. Yeah. So this is. Yeah, no, no notes required. Nobody’s gonna take, you know, you don’t have to, you know, you can listen to this on a plane or you can buy the book. You can buy this book and you can sit it on the back of your toilet on the back of your toilet and just read the, the quotes. You know, when you’re, whenever you’re in the bed, perfect bathroom reading, whatever you’re into.

You don’t have to start at page one. You can start in the middle of it. You know, it doesn’t, it doesn’t really matter in that regard. The quotes were amazing. And then I just love the conclusion, conclusion chapter where you just really lay it all out like boom. And I felt that a beautiful piece of writing there. Thank you, I appreciate that. And charlie, activist post.com and where’s, where’s the best place to reach you? And I, I do the Activist Post articles are great. I’ve been using a lot of those for friends. Yeah, I agree. Activist Post is great.

I the these three guys started activist post in 2010. In the summer of 2024 they reached out to me and said would you be interested in buying the company? Because I’d been very vocal how I’ve always been reading their articles and I knew one of the guys from there and like them and so I bought the company and wound up rebuilding the website and launching it January 1, 2025. So activist post has been around for a while. I think people now I’m, now I’m in charge of it. But, but I loved it before, before I had anything to do with it.

It’s just a one stop shop for people who are looking for interesting articles about the things that we’re into. I expanded it a little bit more. I added a podcast section so that, you know, because some articles, not everybody reads, you know, everybody’s got a different way of getting the information. I want to make sure that’s available. So I would encourage people to go to Activist Post and bookmark it and just add that to your media diet, whatever you’re normally checking every day to check this. And we. I republish outstanding articles from brave, fearless journalists who are writing about things when they matter most, not three years later after it doesn’t matter anymore.

So, so, so we’re very subversive. Of course. We were on the disinformation 200 list along with Zero Hedge and WikiLeaks and all those. Those guys. So we must be doing something right. So I hope people will consider getting their news over at Activist Post and then my podcast, Macro Aggressions, wherever podcasts are available. You can check that out. I do two shows a week there. And you’ve been on multiple times over the years. And, and you’ll be back, of course, because we’re talking food and I’m talking to Christian. He and I are going to be recording next week.

We were supposed to do it a couple days ago, but his schedule got. Got. Got thrown off. So we’re gonna talk about. We’re gonna talk about food as well. So it’s a big topic. Charlie, thanks so much for your time. I really appreciate it. And I’m going to figure out what button to push here to make this thing stop. I think know. Oh my gosh, software. The reason I’m on this things break. Don’t get me started. Anyway, thank you so much, Charlie. Thank you, Marjorie.
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