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Let’s go, go, go, go, go. Broadcast loud for the world to know. Here we go. Much. Welcome to the future of money and finance. I’m your host, Scotty Saks. Ladies and gentlemen. The Future of Money and Finance is a seminal 10 part video series presented by Ironhawk Financial and featuring financial strategies with Joe Lombardi and Joe will join us later in the show. The Future of Money and Finance is designed to help you understand the past, challenge the president and shape the future of money and finance. In today’s episode part seven, we’re going to explore peer to peer payment systems.
How money can move directly from one person or or business to another without necessarily passing through a traditional bank or other centralized intermediary. As a digital technology continues to transform the way we exchange value, peer to peer payment systems could play an increasingly important role in the future of finance. Joining each week, our good friends will Rob Cunningham and Jim Pugh. Gentlemen, welcome to the show. Appreciate you as always. Let’s get Jim in. Here we go. Let me just remind our audience that Jim Pugh has been at the center of international finance for decades and brings a spiritual frame of reference to money and finance through his biblical knowledge and expertise.
Welcome Jim. Rob Cunningham. Rob is our techno cool techno cool cat. Our future financial technologies, tools and concepts expert. Guys, welcome back. Hope you had a good weekend. Let’s get going here. So gentlemen, let’s take a look at peer to peer payment systems. How they work, why they matter and what they mean for the future of money and finance. So Rob, I’m going to you dig into peer to peer payment systems. What are they for and how do they work? Well, at a fundamental level, peer to peer, two party mutual consent transfer of value. Okay, the point is you either have mutual consent at point play where mutual means two or you have a third party or fourth or fifth or sixth party involved in the transfer process.
And peer to peer payments through digital ledger technology and atomic settlement is designed to bring us as close as possible to the highest form of moral law in the universe, which is mutual consent. Scotty, if I agree and you agree, yes plus yes equals yes, period. Mutual doesn’t mean three, means two. Okay, so the more intermediaries, the more debasers, the more taxers, the more friction, the more fees, the more debasement. Whatever you want to call it, getting people out of the two party relationship is the profound brilliance of what peer to peer promises to deliver our world.
So when you understand that money is supposed to be kind of a public infrastructure system of trust where neighbors and friends, willing partners, can share wealth together, exchange ideas, exchange value, when that gets perverted by someone changing that protocol for a privatized script system, you go from the great designers ways, money changers ways, okay? And peer to peer uses quantum technology, quantum computers, cryptography, distributed ledger technology, individual wallets to collapse everything in exchange process from identification to compliance to mutual consent to exchange to ledgering and settlement in three to five seconds. And it excuses all the other parties that aren’t lawfully allowed to promote enough process.
It makes them go away. Very well said. Jim. You traveled the world international business. You saw how a central bank or central authority acts as an intermediary. This is really a decentralized concept, peer to peer, isn’t it? Oh yeah, it just puts, puts it back into the hands of the parties doing the transaction. That’s what it does. If you even go back all the way to the time that the nation of Israel was, was formed and went into Egypt to, because of the famine at the time, it was really because God wanted protection for his nation, to build his nation.
But they had barter systems. That’s, that’s a peer to peer system. Any means of transferring monetary exchange from one individual to another based upon, as Rob said, mutual consent of contract is a peer to peer system. What we have today is just a different time, a different technology error. And what we are putting in place is a system that allows the world to meet at the center of a transaction based system that gives the same type of control that God intended us to have control from the time of creation. And that’s really a peer to peer system.
And it doesn’t really matter about what the money source is. That’s the other side. If you want to transfer a cow for a horse, go do it. If you want to transfer a yacht for a house, or an airplane for a car or you know, whatever. If the two parties agree, whatever it is via the tokenized system that is being put in place, you have the ability to do that exchange, as Rob pointed out, within seconds. The oldest form of payment was barter, peer to peer, a farmer trading his food for his neighbors, let’s say babysitting, you know, the old barter system.
But I think it’s really critical to recognize that peer to peer, also known as P2P, that is not a specific type of payment, as you pointed out, Jim, or system, but a collective term that refers to a variety of file sharing networks, blockchain technologies, payment systems. Can you put that in context, Jim? What, what, what is the peer to peer process? Well, okay, so we live in a technological age that’s different than ancient biblical history where they actually met face to face to do a transaction. We’ve talked about, we’ve talked about the way that the banking system came into being, which was through Roman Catholic Church, using a system where trade could actually be deposited.
The gold and silver that was going to be used for the trade activity could be actually put in deposit at one location and be used in another location. That was the start of the banking system. But what this does, it, it allows an individual in this technology age to control the assets that they’re going to use for whatever purposes they want to use it in exchange for value for whatever transaction they want to perform. And that the system puts all of that in the hands of real people. In the past, underneath the fiat system, we basically put that control into an independent banking system that actually took ownership of whatever assets you had put into the system and you lost complete control over.
And now what’s happening is that control is being given back to we the people with the same foundational elements that God intended when he did creation, which is give you the power over your assets and allow you to generate what you wish from them. Rob, I think we can all imagine based on what you two have described, the benefits of a peer to peer, but I’d like you to spell those out, from lower transaction fees to convenience. Why don’t you give us kind of a rundown of the benefits of a peer to peer system? Yeah, well.
Awesome, Awesome. I love everything that Jim just said. It’s brilliant. But I was curious. I did a scriptural search of the word token tokenization, and there’s about 17 different references or scriptural references to the word token. And this is what it says. A token is frequently not the thing itself. Right. It’s a sign that faithfully represents something real, a covenant, identity, authority, promise, evidence or claim that creates a powerful bridge to real world asset tokenization. Well, why does that peer to peer Means wallet to wallet, account to account. And the tokenization, the moral question is not merely whether an asset can be tokenized, whether it’s gold or silver or a currency or a car title, it’s whether the token tells the truth about what it represents.
So we have tokenized representations of truth and we can exchange them back and forth. We’re operating in truth and living in truth and exchanging truth, and nobody gets to get in the middle and pervert. Change the definition of that token, whether it’s a dollar, an ounce of gold, amounts of silver, a car title, whatever. It happens to me. When we can tokenize things truthfully, then we can exchange in truth. And that system is quite different than the money changer system. Okay. And what technology does at the speed of quantum and at the speed of, with cryptography, scale fractions of a penny per exchange between two parties.
It takes existing law, existing property, existing value, and it can in seconds for fractions of a penny, transfer title and ownership truthfully and honestly and forever. Recorded on the blockchain, which is stored for thousands of years, 200 copies of it. We can all live, operate and work in exchange in truth with verifiable records. And we don’t have to trust any institution to do so. That’s why peer to peer matters. You know, you know, Scotty, I want to. Go ahead, Jim, jump in. I want to add something to that because I didn’t, I didn’t think that’s the direction that you would ask me to go, but that’s okay.
What I want to, when I add to what Rob said, is the whole system is built on biblical principles. Okay? God used the word token. Think about this 17 times in scripture. I just looked at my library and their token is in there 17 times. Well, what’s that mean to you? That means. Okay, so, so what the Bible represents is the legal system. It, it, it Tokens were used to identify the base of a legal system that God put in place. It started with a covenant, which is we call a contract today. All right, we could call it a covenant because that was, that was how God named it at the time.
And you go through what, what the scripture identifies a token to be. And if you put it all together, and Rob might want to do this in his great way, if he puts everything together in short form. When you put it all together, you create the framework of a legal system. That’s really what, that’s really what scripture does. And when Q and all of us have talked about this is going to be biblical. Why? Because everything we’re putting in place is going to. Based upon biblical standards, truth, money, measurement, weights and balances. The ability to tokenize any asset that you might have, the ability to transact any type of contract you want to transact for the ability to use any asset that you want that you can tokenize yourself.
When this thing comes up, it falls right under biblical control of scripture. And. Go ahead. It’s astounding to me. Did you say 17 times in the Bible the word token appears? Yeah, 17. Really? It’s as if they knew that the 17 would have significance. What did token. What’s the. What did token mean in the Bible? I want to give you one other piece of reference, Scotty. And there is a book called, an ancient biblical book called Q. All right. And it is. It. It is the messaging directly from Jesus Christ. So when, when, when we biblical scholars came out and said, okay, this is going to be bit.
We knew what this was based on. We knew that what was being put in a technological way that Rob described. We knew that at the heart of this were going to be all the biblical truths that were put in place under the legal system that God put in place framework that would exist when this all gets implemented together in the world. And Scotty, to that point, what Jim just said is true. Biblical scholars are law professors. Yeah. Because the scriptures are. It’s a law book. Now there could be. Can there be perverted religions that don’t understand the book? 40,000 of them.
Okay. But if people would understand. The Bible is a law book. It’s about laws and principles, not about forming a religion. It’s not about memberships, it’s not about collecting dues. It’s a law manual. It’s basically a. It’s basically a common law civil procedure on how you deal with everything universe. It’s common law, but it’s universal law as defined by the designer of the joint. Right? Yeah. Okay, so if you understood it literally and then Q says, this will be biblical. I. In my mind, you know, we. We’ve always taught at a very early age, God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent.
Well, I replace those O’s with Q’s. He’s quantum omnipotent, quantum omniscient and quantum omnipresent. It’s a good way to. Good, good way to look at it. You know, you talked about perversion, perverted religion. Jim, you sat across from bankers internationally. The central bankers perverted everything, did they not? The financial system. They corrupted everything their hands were on it. Really, no matter what. But what gave them the ability to control that was they took ownership of every dollar that was in the system. And by, by countries going off of an asset backed system, whatever that might be, okay, in whatever country, when the countries took themselves off of any connection to an asset based source to provide some level of truth and value of their currency, then what they did is they had complete ownership of not only your assets, but they had ownership of the system that they could create money out of thin air.
They could actually do the fractional banking, they could actually set values, they could actually set purchase values for things that you buy in the store, for your house, your car, everything. Because they were able then to increase the taxes associated with what they were receiving. So all they were trying to do was steal more of your money. They could play the endless currency exchange game of cards Trump has talked about his entire life. He came down the escalator to announce his presidency with currency exchange exchange above his head as he and Melania descended the. They use currency exchange manipulation to suck all the manufacturing out of America and NAFTA and give it to China.
Because when they control the script, they control the currency, they control the courts and the lawyers and the politicians, they can claim anything, make it law and screw us all over. Very interesting. You guys have enlightened me and I’m sure our audience. You’re watching the Future of Money and Finance Part 7 Peer to peer payment Systems and our series is really designed to help you understand the past, challenge the present, and shape the future of money and finance. Jim, this ancient book Q Token, appearing in the Bible 17 times, there are no coincidences, are there? No, no.
As we’ve talked about, and not as probably as detailed as what maybe the Holy Spirit wants us to talk about it at this stage, but this whole, this whole system that we’re looking at is at the crust of what we as individual believers in Jesus Christ deal with every day of our life, called our spiritual war. And it has its very, very elements of it. One of the elements is finance and there’s many, many more elements to that. But one of those elements is finance. And at the, at the crust of this, we, we are now gaining back, we, we will be gaining back our control point because what was, what was being set in the world was the cabal, which is basically followers of Lucifer.
They were trying to hurry up and bring in the Antichrist to allow them to live on this earth without us Christians. They wanted to kill us. That’s why they poisoned our food. That’s the reason why they put the chemcheros in the air, that’s the reason why they had weather system controls on and on and on. They were there to control nations and to limit the size of those nation bus based upon the agenda 2021 from the UN, that’s now 2030. Okay, so, and you can go read that, that’s online. And it tells you that they were systematically controlling the population in the world for sustainability.
Well, if God needed to control the world for sustainability, he wouldn’t create the world as he did. Okay. He says that all of the abundance I’m giving you from all parts of heaven, which means it doesn’t end, then we don’t have, we don’t have a sustainability issue. We have a control issue. So yeah, I mean, at the heart of this is the definition of the battle of good and evil. I want to summarize the benefits of peer to peer compared to conventional payment processing. I want to interpret what I heard you guys say. The benefits are obviously lower transaction fees compared to banking, faster payment processing, enhanced convenience, increased accessibility, improved privacy.
Is that a fair statement? Peer to peer is an improvement in privacy, Obviously a reduced reliance on intermediaries and greater flexibility in payment methods. So Rob, what are some of the peer to peer payment methods that are already in use? Because I, I think we’ve all used one, we didn’t realize we were using one. Well, a weak version of it as a counterfeit version might be, you know, a Zelle or Venmo or a cash app or something like that where you think you’re transferring value. What you’re really doing is just sending a message. They’re still holding on to your money, they’re still charging fees, they’re still trading your money.
There’s a time value of money, right? You think, oh, I just sent my daughter some money, you know, and it went over. But in that time frame. Time value of money. Time is the greatest commodity in the world. It’s our most precious commodity. Right? We all get the same number of hours in a day. And so by exploiting and leveraging and obfuscating the time value of money and hidden fees and hidden processes and most importantly, hidden controls, the very use of a private monetary system. They’ve designed it where we’re consenting to all their rules and regulations that impact our lives.
We let them make the rules as to whether this food like substance has really got any nutrients in it or not. It sure looks pretty on the glass counter, but you eat it and it’s nothing but fertilizer. Chemicals, poisons and spices, and there’s nothing in it, but it sure tastes good because between the tongue and the brain, they’ll make you think it’s food, but the rest of your body doesn’t know what the hell to do with it, you know, but they get to control that entire process because they control the value exchange process. And so they can lie to us.
I mean, at, at the end of the day, we can be sovereign or be perverted because if the other money, it’s the, it’s the two masters thing, we can, we can’t serve two masters. We have to serve the master of truth or the master of perversion. Then the perverted Luciferian system has to take control of the monetary system and the laws and rules and regulations attached to that money monetary system, because it gives ultimate control. Money does make the world go round. They don’t. They make bartering illegal because they can’t measure it and tax it and extract from it.
Right. This is a digitized form of biblical bartering with just faster technology and cooler terms or different terms. But unless it’s atomic settlement in three to five seconds and the title transfer and the transaction under oath is ledgered and done, then it’s not a digital peer to peer transfer. So until the Clarity act or a version of the Clarity act that President Trump and Treasury Secretary and the SEC and the CFTC can go ahead and advance with their current existing regulatory authority, we don’t through statute yet have lawful peer to peer atomic settlement in three to five seconds at Pennies where I’m.
I’m truly sending you my car title and it’s done. I’m truly sending you a thousand dollars and it’s done. There are no hidden fees, no hidden rules, and I don’t have to take a poison jab just because I sent you a thousand dollars. There are no strings attached. The value exchange process, when we get there, we’ve arrived. You know, as I’m listening to you, I’m thinking my own personal experience. Zell is quick. It’s not, it’s not seconds or minutes, it’s. But it is quick compared to the others. It’s expensive. The fees are. Most banks charge a pretty hefty fee.
The ones that really are frustrating Coinbase and PayPal and they hold your money sometimes for days. And when you figure these platforms are sitting on hundreds of thousands of people’s money for days on end, what are they doing with that money, Jim? What are they doing with. When they’re sitting on our money? Yeah, See, that’s, that’s a misnomer as well, because they’re all controlled by the same system that you use. Yes, so, so you say that they’re sitting on my money, they’re waiting on your money to get to them to do a transaction. So while, while you think that they’re sitting on your money, it’s the system that provides or that requires them to do that because they don’t have that money in the bank to actually let you do your transaction.
So it’s an underpinning of the technology of the systems controlled by the central bankers that allow them to control every time a dollar is moved, they get to add days to it. This element of time. Okay, so if he followed a complete international transaction of a dollar throughout the world to a final resting place, let’s say a burial site, it probably will take you up to 21 days to get that dollar to the final resting site because of the elements of control in that system and how it’s transferred from one system to another system to another system, all controlled by the back end of the central bank.
That gives them this element of time, time based money that they’re making interest off of that dollar until they’re, they release it. And then when it’s released, you get to use it. And Scotty, and Scotty to that. Let’s, let’s make that even worse than Jim just explained it. You put a dollar in a system, they get the market up to 10 and they can loan out nine, they can interest on the nine. Okay? Because they gave themselves permission to do fractional reserve lending. So when that dollar hits now it becomes nine. Now they loan that out to somebody at 8%, pay you, you know, a half a percent.
And they do that for 21 days until it hits the, until it hits the burial ground. Okay? They’re inflating the money because the rules say they can. Well, where do those rules? They’re not laws, they’re not principles, they’re, it’s part of the Ponzi scheme. Let’s add just one more component on that. The reason why the credit card system is there is because of the time based money, because you don’t have action, you don’t have your money, you don’t have the funds in your account when they’re supposed to be on a real time basis. You put them, you take them to the bank, you want them and they, they collect them, put them in my account, let me use them.
But that what, why the credit card system is there is because number one you don’t have the access to the funds. And number two, you can’t. They, they’ve priced everything up so high, your gallon of milk is determined based upon what the central banks want that dollar amount to cost. I don’t think a lot of people understand that. It’s not about supply and demand. It’s about whatever price fixing that they did. Why, why does presidents come out and call corporations and tell them to control the pricing of the product? Why it’s not based upon its supply and demand, cost structure, low profit, so forth and so on, and drive the price up based upon the supply and demand feature of economics.
It’s based upon price fixing. So at every level of this game, as Rob says, okay, they like they were able to leverage it up to you, they’re collateralizing you is what they’re doing. And this concept, biblically, by scripture, the heart of the currency is the individual’s relationship with Jesus Christ. That’s the value you set for you. I want you to think about this because we’re talking about energy. The value you set for you, you can either make it abundant or you could be on a clearance rack. And the value you set for you is based upon the type of relationship you have with Jesus Christ.
And in scripture, it says the more you’re obedient to him, the more blessings you receive and the faster they’re manifested in your life. So at the heart of this currency war is what you value you to be. And that’s where I came to you and I came to. Rob says we need to do something so that people understand not only the system, but what’s at the heart of the system. And we just touched it. Today, the heart of the system is you. We, the people. That’s the heart of the system. The value of the system is going to be what we set our value based upon.
Our relationship with Jesus Christ. The true, the legal system, the framework that we all live our lives with once we get all of this in place, that’s where you get sovereignty. You don’t get sovereignty by just being an individual, you know, sitting on a park bench on the street. You get sovereignty through your relationship with Jesus Christ. And that sovereignty gives you value. And that value set is what gives you the ability to manifest the blessing. God didn’t make us paupers. He wanted us to live in wealth, okay? He wanted us to thrive, not just survive, okay? So we get these blessings and what scriptures say, we’ve already talked about it when we looked at currency valuation.
The blessings get repeatedly given to Us over and over and over again because they never go away. Well, this platform is called Sovereign Radio, and this word sovereign keeps coming up. There is a lot of perverted radio. Rob, you’ve used the word perverted a few times. There’s plenty of perversion on radio, but this is sovereign radio. I want to be very clear what you said, Jim, that nobody’s sitting on your money, but somebody’s making interest. So let me give an example. I sent $2,000 via a debit card from my bank account to Coinbase. Coinbase said they received the 2000.
It was deducted from my bank account. I went into my bank app and saw, okay, the 2000 has left my bank account. It’s been deducted from my bank account. But Coinbase does not give me access to that money for three days. Who’s making interest? Somebody’s making interest on that money. Well, it’s the bankers. It’s the transactional system behind the bank. That’s who’s making the money. Okay, so while nobody’s sitting on your money, they’re making money on my money while it sits there. Well, let me clarify one word. They didn’t leave your bank account. They ledgered. They.
They stated that a transaction was going to be ledgered. Just because you got noticed doesn’t mean it effectuated. Okay? They can tell you you deducted 2,000. You didn’t deduct $2,000 from your account. They may have held on to it for another day or two days before it ended up. And then you get to Coinbase to go, well, it’s got a. Funds have to settle for 24 hours before you can buy something with it. Okay, so just because they’re telling you that they’re led during something doesn’t mean the money has actually moved. It’s just an indication of recording the exchange.
They don’t get real specific with the exact time that both parties hold it before you can do something else with it. So be it. It didn’t move, Rob. But I no longer have access to it. Somebody does. And the point is, the present banking system is not built for our benefit. It’s built for their benefit. They’re making interest on that money. I no longer have access to the 2 grand. Coinbase won’t give me access to the 2 grand. I believe it was for 72 hours while they look into the matter. But the point is, this new peer to peer system isn’t going to work that way.
Correct? Correct. Think about it this way. Just think of this one data point. The Genius act. Okay. I did a post this morning that Scott Bessette came out and said fully effective. I think January 16th of 2027, the genius act as passed into law in early 2025, will be 100% effective in the United States. What are the genius acts? It’s a stable coin definition with one to one assets. One to one collateral behind every stable coin issued assassinates fractional reserve lending. You cannot mark up stable coins 10x. You have to have actual value attached to the stablecoin period.
End of story. So the largest economy in the world, we’re 20. America’s about 26% of the world’s GDP and we have the strongest dollar in the world. When we go with stable assets, stable coin type of system issued by our treasury with one to one custody behind everything that we issue. Fractional reserve lending is dead. Yeah, nice. Very nice to hear. It’s totally dead. And they can’t play the games behind the scene as increasing their own pocket liquidity by leveraging up the dollar and trading that dollar three times a week for profit. They can’t do that.
They’ll have a trading system for humanitarian projects and. But there’s rules now associated with that and it has to follow those rules, which is assets be in place to collateralize those assets in order to do trades. Well, this is all music to my ears, Rob. We’re going to cut you loose, tell our audience where they can find you before you leave, please. Sure. Right there on the screen at Cool Dot show. And I do want to give a shout out to some friends of mine. I was in a movie called documentary called Money Disrupted. Okay. And it’s basically a two hour documentary.
It goes from 1776 to 2026 and it explains kind of the creature from Jekyll island, which is an offspring of the city of London. And it explains that worse than the interest that they make off of us and theft, the whole purpose of this system is control. Control everything about us, everything that we do, and then drive us into the ground, control us and get us to the Georgia guidestone optimized population of 500 million people on earth. Okay? If you really put the, put it together and understand who’s behind this, as the scripture says, filthy lucre, dirty money, fake monetary system.
It’s about controlling the spirit of the earth. Either we get to have sovereignty in relationship with Christ or the dark spirits reign up hell over earth. That’s really what this boils down to. And so the movie Money Disrupted, you want to follow my trip? I put a link to it. It’s got G. Edward Griffin in it. It’s got Robert Kiyosaki, it’s got Ron Paul in it. It’s got all kinds of people that are really, really, really smart people. But you can see in tranches of decade after decade, after decades, how the forces that own and control the monetary system defile, pervert and destroy this world by controlling the monetary system.
And what we’re trying to do with DLT is take sovereignty back, sovereignty over that lifeblood of human exchange, the monetary system, and take it back from that creature from Jekyll Island. Shout out to J. Edward Griffin, by the way, the seminal book on the central banking system, the Creature of Jekyll Island. Rob, I think it was you that was on with me. We got to talk to G. Edward one time. Weren’t you on with me and G. Edward? Not the three of us together, no, sir. Oh, okay. That must have been somebody else. But in any event, Rob, thank you.
We greatly appreciate you each week joining us. Always some great information. We’ll see you next week. Jim, before we go to break, I want to address something because it’s been brought to my attention. I’ve been asked, why is the Bible important to the money system? Why do you guys have a biblical expert on why does he talk about Bible and Christ? I would like you to address that to those. It’s been a few people, so go ahead and address that. Why that’s important. I think it’s obvious, but let’s, let’s clear that up for those that don’t find it obvious.
Well, I guess, I guess I would have to ask the audience who asked those questions where you believe the world’s assets came from. Because at the heart of this, you know, scripture says that we’re bought with a price. We don’t own anything. And the, the, all of the assets that this world has was done at creation. And it was given to us to utilize for our benefit in this physical life form. And that’s what scripture says, actually says, use the assets I gave you for your benefit over your lifespan. And he tells us in Ephesians 1:3 that he’s given us all the blessings from heaven before the foundation of the world.
So before, before the world was ever created, God had already put into the storehouse or the, or in his mind as he built this simulated system. He built the fact that we would have assets in a storehouse that we could actually manifest into our life if we understood the power and the energy behind a relationship with Jesus Christ. So reason why we talk about this is because we don’t own the assets. God owns the assets. And Hosea says that my, my currency is gold and silver. Where do you think that comes from? Did you, do you think Haggai 2 verses 8 the golden silver mine said the Lord.
Yeah. So I mean the whole thing about it is, is what do you, what do you believe? Do you believe in truth about how this was all created or do you believe in a man made propaganda scheme that says you generate all the assets that you want? You don’t generate them, you manifest them into your life based upon the activity of your life associated with your relationship with Jesus Christ. That’s what I was trying to get seats. You bring into your life what you value your life to be and the assets are God’s. That’s why we talk about it.
Yeah, I think it couldn’t be more clear than Haggai 2 verses 8 Ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to go to break. After the break, America’s financial QB Joe Lombardi joins us for financial insights with Joe Lombardi. We’ll be back after a few words from Ironhawk Financial as the future of money and finance rolls on. See you after the break. This is Scotty Saks here. If you’re watching the video series the Future of Money and Finance sponsored by our good friends at Ironhawk Financial, you’re probably well schooled in the money system that we’ve been living in for decades.
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And with that said, let me bring in Joe Lombardi. Hey, Joe, welcome. Hey, thanks for having me again. Scotty, Good to see you. Of course, Joe, we are calling you America’s financial quarterback. With the football season coming on, we thought it was appropriate because you got the playbook for protecting and growing your wealth. Let’s start with your take Joe on the peer to peer payment systems. What does that mean to you as a financial investor? Probably doesn’t change a lot except you can make more money with peer. Clients will in fact retain more money with peer to peer, will they not? Yeah, I mean the value of interest that a lot of people lose.
I was just dealing with a client who sold his business for $3.8 million. Now he received the check, but then the lawyer held it for about eight days. Then he went to the bank to bring the check to the bank and then the bank held it for 19 days before releasing the money to him. And he is now in the process of looking for an attorney to try and sue the bank to be like you owe me like 38, 000 in interest I would have made if it was just sitting In a, you know, a Robin Hood 4.35 because he’s a gold member with millions and millions of Robinhood as well.
So when you, when you look at it, it’s people hold money, people use time value of money, present money to generate wealth and interest off of other people’s money. And because the, the white collar crimes and the, and the poor, you know, rich people crimes versus, you know, poor people crimes, our system is set up that if you know you’re, you’re poor, right, selling a 20 bag of, you know, some drug substance, you go to jail for, you know, years. But if somebody steals, you know, five, six hundred thousand dollars from you, it’s like, well, it’s just, you know, it’s civil.
It’s like, huh. So the, the system is, is really set up where if you can’t, you know, as Jim was saying, build a relationship with Yahusha, which we identify him as Jesus in, in our biblical sense today. When you, when you have that relationship, it changes your entire life in, in the positive. And, and I really enjoyed the, the, the pot, you know, this, this podcast about that. So when you, when you look at people holding money, the instant transactions that aren’t available now and when those come into the system. Yes, Joe, I want to move my money from Fidelity or Wells Fargo or Transamerica over to Allianz or Athene or National Life Group.
And we can do it where it’s just a button and your money transfers, it’s going to get a lot of people back their time because just to transfer money. So let’s say I meet you, Scotty. You’re like, yeah, Joe, I have, you know, a million bucks and I need to turn it to income. And you know, I’m like, okay, Scotty, you know, I can guarantee you, let’s say eight and a half percent. You know, I’ve seen it up to 11. So depending on your age, it’s like Social Security. The older you are, the more they guarantee as an income for the rest of your life where you cannot live it.
Well now, right, we have to do this very long application. We then have to send these transfer forms, these transfer forms, you know, anywhere between three and 10 pages. And they don’t accept electronic signatures, so there has to be a wet signature. Well, I’m dealing with a 73 year old and 81 year old. They may not have a printer. So then they had to go to Staples or their son’s house or the grand grandchild’s house and use their computer technology, which they don’t have in their house to print this paper out, sign it and then scan it back to me.
And now what I have to do is I have to take that, I have to scan it, I have to upload that into PDF and then that PDF has to be sent to the seating carrier with the other, you know, three to nine pages that weren’t the signature pages but all their information, information with the account we’re going to, the accounts coming from, send that to them. Now that has to go to like the seating carriers team. They have to then send that over to the company that has their, their, their money. Then that company, what they have to do is they have to release it, have officers sign off on it, that yes, we’re going to transfer this money here.
Then they have to transfer the money over to the seating carrier. By the time this whole process went through, it’s like three weeks and, and there’s a lot of time, not just from the bank to bank transfer, but time filling out paperwork, getting paperwork to clients, having clients, you know, fill out the paperwork correctly, date it, sign in the correct spot, send it back. I mean imagine when the amount of money we can just go from you A to B and it’s instantaneously, that will make people a lot more money. It’ll take a lot of power away from, from the banksters and it’ll give people the ability to save time, which the most valuable asset, believe it or not, isn’t dollars.
That’s, you know, it’s time. I can always trade time for dollars. I can never trade dollars for time. So when you look at it, there’s a lot of pros that come from being able to have instantaneous transfers, you know, where you, you’re not even seeing a lot of the benefits, you know, you’re just talking about the actual transfer. But when you actually talk about the time savings, the, you know, the anxiety my clients have when they’re like Joe, I just transfer you 5.6 million, it’s gone from my account but I don’t see it on the new account.
And there’s just $5.6 million floating, just somebody’s life savings or inheritance from their parents, life savings. And that’s nerve wracking, creates anxiety, it creates doubt, it creates fear. So if there was a way where like at 2:32 in the afternoon, I hit a button in 2:32 in the afternoon, the money’s in the account, we just log in and boom, there it is. The, the amount of ease piece savings of interest of having you know, $5 million just float or not earning interest for weeks is going to be monumental because those, those events you do long term compounding interest at six wonder the world is going to have an impact on your retirement net worth.
Jim, I heard a term, I don’t know where I read it. It’s called Gamzo. Only good can come from this. Is it fair statement that only good can come from peer to peer payment system? Well, you have to take the basis of just the system. Yeah, it’s going to be good because you’re able to control it on a one to one basis. You’re, you’re in total control. Instead of Joe pushing the button, the client’s going to push the button and see it go to their account. They don’t have to worry about somebody else doing, doing it for them.
They, they’re actually in charge. So yeah, that’s good because people then feel that they’re in control over their hard earned assets that they’ve generated over their life. But the system is not the predicate over life events. It is just a transaction tool. So is this system only going to produce good? No, it’s evil still exists in this world. So they’re going to be evil forms of this system being used to do evil things. And that’s just the world that we live in. But for the goodness side, it puts we the people back into control over that which we own.
Joe, your client that waited for that 3.8 million ought to get a personal injury attorney because, because the anxiety he suffered, the personal emotional stress that he suffered. Jim, do you think this guy has a legal case for getting his interest back from the bank? Well, I don’t think he has any ability to do that. Based upon the predicating of the documents he signed to open the bank account number one, because he doesn’t own the funds when they’re deposited in his bank account, he actually transfers the ownership to the bank. Right. So from a legal basis to do that from the account opening form, basically we’ve given the rights over our bank account to the bank.
And so from that basis I would say no. But you know what, this system is changing and if they wanted to test the system, I think this is a good, be a good point to actually do that, to see, you know, at least from awareness and it gives some level of satisfaction that they, they’re actually trying to control, gain back control over what happened to them. Yeah. Listening to you and Robin and Joe today, I see only good coming from peer to peer. Joe, you told A story. I heard you taught your son a lesson. You bought him a Porsche.
You didn’t buy him a Porsche to spoil him. You bought him a Porsche to teach him a lesson. Would you share that story? I think that was a great story. Well, when I was younger, you know, I grew up extreme poverty and then my dad’s business was doing amazing so he bought me a Nissan Sentra SE 2.0. And you know, my, I was a dumb kid, you know, in regards to having no structure, no mom. My dad was working all the time, so I grew up in the streets, you know, so my friends were like, hey, do neutral drops.
And you know, because it was a man, it was a manual or automatic. So make a long story short, I blew like three transmissions in this car until Nissan came back with my dad said we’re not covering it again. So he, he bought me a 2002. So Nissan Sentra Ser Spec V, like the six speed manual. And when you have something, when you’re young and, and you’re exposed to, you know, wealth, right, Something that is valuable within society, it has like a subconscious growth within you that you can and, and, and will be successful if you are around that environment.
So my oldest, I have three, is my most trusted, responsible. He does read the Bible every day. We went to the beach last week and he argued me for three hours that his name’s not Jesus Christ. And you can’t call him that, it’s blasphemous. His name is Yahusha, you gotta name him. And like he went out three hours about this and I was like, who cares? You know, we, we call him Jesus Christ. We don’t do it out of vain or anything. But anyway, he’s, he’s very, very, very responsible. You know, he has a girlfriend. You know, he’s, he’s trying to live celibate at 16.
And I’m like, I know what I was doing at 16. But when you, when you look at it, it’s, it’s, he’s, he’s anything and everything from, and again, I love my other two children as well, but he’s the oldest. The more maturest, the, the more responsible one. But that’s usually common when you, we have siblings and you’re the oldest, you’re, you’re putting charge a lot when the parents are gone and have higher expectations than your siblings. So I, I used my 7702 plan, I leaned the money out. I knew that, you know, well, his 7702 plan I got when he was born.
And one of my buddies was selling it for. It was his mom’s Porsche macan ass. And you know, I said, you know what? I’m gonna, I’m gonna give this to you. You know, it wasn’t that much more expensive than, let’s say a new Honda Civic or a new Kia. You know, I ended up paying 21 grand for it. So it’s not like I spent 100 grand on a Porsche for my son. Right? So when you, when you look at it, I wanted to give him something that was valuable, that he can take care of, that he has accountability.
I didn’t want to breed entitlement because I let him know, hey, you have to help out around the house. You gotta drive, you know, your siblings to football and dance and lacrosse and basketball. And luckily both of my boys are in high school, senior and freshman, and there’s no freshman team this year, so my freshman son automatically goes to JV football and they practice together. So that saved my wife, you know, 300 hours of driving this season, which she’s very happy about. So when you, when you look at it, it’s, it was a lesson to my son to be like, hey, you can have nice things and, and you can achieve, you know, things that you, you want, you know, and, and when you’re exposed to things like I was exposed to being extremely polished, then I was exposed to being extremely wealthy.
My dad’s business was printing millions a year. When you get to see that, I know my kids haven’t seen extreme poverty, but when you get to see that, it really puts a perspective that your actions, your mindset, your. Everything that you want in life can be obtained based on habits and based on self belief. And it comes down to the luncheon. I could. If you think you can, you will. If you think, think you can’t, you won’t. Either way, you’re right. And that has been one of the most powerful messages in my life. I always thought that I could no matter what, and I always have because I thought I could.
And, and it’s something that I teach to my children and, you know, it’s something I hope that they teach to theirs. Well, Joe, you said you were dumb. I beg to differ because I, I’ll take a street smart kid over a book smart kid any day of the week. So you grow up in the streets, you’re a street smart guy, and it shows in your life and what you did with your son. My daughter’s mother bought her an x, a BMW X3 at 16 when she got her license. I argued with her. You’re making a mistake.
She gave me some of the same reasons you did. So when you told the poor story, it really hit home because I thought my ex was making a huge mistake. It turned out to be a brilliant move because she’s taking care of that x3 beamer like she would not have taken care of a beater. Right, right. She was. She wouldn’t have appreciated it. She wouldn’t have seen the value in it, understood the, the value of a dollar behind the BMW X3. So a great story. Jim, would you take a book smart kid or a street smart kid? Well, when I was in my corporate life before I got out on my investment banking side, I didn’t hire anybody that came from Harvard at all.
I wouldn’t do it because they had what they had. They had book smart, but they had no application smarts. And they felt that they were entitled, which they wouldn’t want to learn. So I always took somebody that was more applied themselves to a street level learning. They had to have the book smarts no matter what. It’s just the question on whether or not the attitude was such that they knew, they knew how to deal with people and wanting to learn, but Harvard graduates didn’t. And so, yeah, answer your question. I always took street smarts people. Yeah.
Boy, the globalists and the mainstream media, they. They created this narrative that the Ivy League kids were the smart kids. And I think we’d all beg to differ with that. That in many ways they’re. I hate the word inferior, but in many ways they’re not as smart as the guys that came off the street like Joe Lombardi. Joe, what do you want to close out with today? I do, I do want to drop one more thing on you before you close out between these savings and interest. That’s going to happen with Peer to Peer and Joe Lombardi’s investment tax strategies.
There’s a lot of money sitting on the table that can come back to your clients. So I want you to throw out your. The key to your tax strategies and how you help protect and grow wealth through your tax strategies. Yeah. So what you do is you go through the code book. It’ll take you about two and a half years to read the IRS code book and read each and every one, and then you’ll find that IRS code section 7702, that would be IRS code. 7702 is the most beneficial IRS code in the entire code book.
When you compare that to IRS code 401K, IRS code 403B IRS code 457529 college savings. When you compare that code to any other code within the IRS code book, this code builds you a strong solid financial foundation that is suprofit, that is divorce proof in most states that can’t lose historically as high returns that gives you the legal ability besides a house with a mortgage through a bank, name me another asset where I can put money into it, have it grow, lean the money out, still earn interest on it minus the interest rate. And historically that’s a net profit over any 25 year period has always been a net profit.
And when you, when you look at that, you now have the ability to earn two streams of income on $1. Now that’s how the banksters do it. The banksters earn 3 to 4 strings of income on your dollar. I can teach or have been teaching for 24 years thousands of people how to do the same thing. Now I partnered with other companies like CashMap and that I could show you how to make three streams utilizing a revolving line, home equity line of credit. And it’s very complex but it’s freaking cool. So it’s, it’s all about leveraging IRS codes that are been around 200 years throughout the Civil War, World War I, Great Depression, World War II never needed outsourced money, never failed.
It’s not Silicon Valley bank, it’s not a signature bank. There’s no freezes because in order to be an insurance company you have to keep a dollar. So if I deposit a dollar into your account there is no fractional lending legally. They can’t do that legally. Insurance companies, that’s why the ultra wealthy put all their money insurance company and then, and then from there they have to pay a dividend legally. So so you’re basically guaranteed a return with no risk. The risk is the company’s going to go under, the insurance company’s going to go under. That’s why I use A plus B rated companies.
But around hundreds of years and more importantly you have to make sure they’re mutual, which means you’re a part owner, they have a shield around your money and they can actually do an IPO if they ever get in hardship and that’ll give you plenty of time to transfer to another mutual insurance company to add that layer of protection. So when you look at it, it’s the ultra wealthy have found and I’ve worked in Wall Street, I’ve worked with billionaires, I’ve worked with celebrities, I’ve worked with Sports athletes. You know, I talked to a client worth $350 million just last week.
So when you, when you look at it, these type of strategies, they’re put in place, you know, sort of like FUBU for us, by us, but it’s for the billionaires, by the billionaires because they bought this through lobbying. And how do I know that? I was a lobbyist for the aalu, for Guardian Life, for Glick. And I used to go to the White House after Friday nights, once, once a month and meet with congressmen and senators and you know, exchange some value for making sure that, you know, they maintain our tax free status as the 7702.
So when you understand that this is something that’s not taught, you understand that this is something that the educational system will not provide because the government will not allow that to be in the curriculum. They’ll teach you the quadratic formula which you’ll never use in your entire life and they’ll spend a whole semester on it, but they won’t spend one week on budgets, entrepreneurship, S Corps, C Corps, LLCs, trusts, all the things that, that you need, you know, if you want to really play the Monopoly fake fiat game, demonic dollar game, if you want to play it to get you to a point where you are self sufficient, you are sovereign financially by setting these things up.
And you don’t need to rely on trading your time for labor anymore. Especially as you get older, you get tired, your body isn’t the same, your mind’s not as sharp, motivation isn’t as much there, you have better things you want to do is spend time with your grandchildren and spend time with your spouses and your children. And so, so it’s insanely important. That’s why it’s the number one spoken topic in the Bible. Number one. So it’s something that’s insanely important that the average American isn’t programmed on purpose by the government owned educational system. Educational system tell you about the government, the government training, the licensed accountants and CPAs and them telling you programmed to invest in IRAs and 401ks because you’re going to save money.
It’s like you don’t save a darn thing. The word deferral and the word savings, savings are not synonymous. So it’s about opening up your mind, critically thinking, learning that these codes are real. This is how they do it utilizing permanent life insurance. The other lie, you know, that the culture says is that death insurance is life insurance. And that is totally a fallacy. So when you understand that these Things are real, these things work. You can lean them, they have high returns, you can’t lose. They have HIPAA protections. I’m sure a lot of your listeners know about HIPAA because of co.
So creditors can’t find it’s indestable in court illegally avoids probate. It works as a, as a revocable trust without having to pay an attorney $5,000. It’s, it’s by far the greatest legacy play the, the greatest. And that’s a transfer. Right, right there is legacy. When I die, my money transfers to my family law. I, I think that’s something that will be important when this gets structured in as well. So when you understand these type of strategies, we can eliminate the probate court upon death. That’s an asset, that’s a benefit to this strategy right there. So when big time, big time benefit.
If I can add my, my truck, my will to my account and there is no stipulation or I can do a trust and then whenever I die, my house, my IRAs, my 401ks, my, my annuities, my, you know, life insurance, it just instantaneously transfers to my child that, that, you know, as soon as that death certificate is, is, you know, sent into the insurance company and then if they build this technology in with hospitals, so as soon as the death claim comes in, boom, it’s on your, you know, your account that you passed away and then boom, the money could be tr.
I mean there’s a lot, a lot of things that we just don’t even see that are going to be beneficial that we don’t even fathom. The, the, the peeling the onion. We’re only looking at like the surface of it and it’s, it’s pretty cool when you start peeling the onion, what this will do. But to, to recap, 7702 best strategy on the planet. It’s, it’s from a financial standpoint, it protects you from the four things that are guaranteed to happen to you. What if I live long, tax free pension. What if I die early, tax free benefit to my family.
What if I get disabled a check up to 1.5 million in cash while I’m still alive. How about what if I need care, you know, 30,000 up to 30,000amonth, tax free. Dollars that come to you every month so you can stay home, not be thrown in a 10 by 10 jail cell known as a nursing home to rot and die alone and have been taken care of. People don’t like you or even know you. So it’s, it’s one of those things where the, the ultra wealthy has identified where the higher suffering points are in life. Taxes going up, market going down.
I getting disabled, I need care, I die. The average American doesn’t think about that at all. They don’t face their mortality. They don’t face their morbidity. They keep poisoning themselves with, with, with crappy food. They don’t even know that McDonald’s has a percentage of like human flesh in it. Like, they don’t, these are the things that like, the average American has. No, look, they don’t, they don’t want. I don’t want to know what’s in a hot dog. Like, I don’t want to know what’s in a chicken nugget. It’s like not much chicken. So when you, when you understand these type of, of, you know, facts, they, the government dumbs down the population on purpose because it’s easier to take care of and control 100 million dumb sheep than it is to control 100 million smartsheet.
Wow. It’s a lot said to think about and have our audience sit on that a minute. 7702. How many tax codes are there? 7702. That’s 7700. How many, how many are there, Joe? Over 10,000. 10,000. Wow. Jim, I’m sure you heard him say he visited the White House and provided value to congressmen. In other words, he bribed elected officials as a lobbyist. I don’t know what he’s talking about. I didn’t say that. Yeah, you don’t know what I’m talking about, but Jim does. Jim. What, what Say the Bible and scripture about somebody providing value to an elected official for something in return.
I’m curious how the Bible, I know it’s in the Bible somewhere. 12. It’s, it falls under. And I want to be very, very careful with this question, Scotty, because I want, I’m only gonna, I’m only gonna talk scripture wise. It follows under the Ten Commandments because it says do not covet. And that which you covet is what you’re willing to pay for in order to get it. And so at the very heart of scripture, while we like doesn’t say we should not have lobbyists and we should not bribe our congressman or whatever. We, we, we, we influence people in order to get what we need done to, to benefit us in the ways that we seek it to benefit.
And that’s kind of so right there. It takes care of any of what’s been going on in Our nation’s capital for years. Yeah, I know you’d make sense out of it. You know, I, I like a little shock and awe sometimes. And I’m, I’m glad, Joe, you’re out of that business. Yeah. You’re out of the lobbying business. I’m glad to. Glad to hear you’re doing what you’ve been doing for 25 years now. So, you know, you said something else. It’s off topic, but it’s worth noting about what’s in McDonald’s food. I heard the other day from somebody that worked at Planned Parenthood that they were selling baby parts from the abortions, that we’re ending up in food and other things.
It’s. It’s like you can’t even wrap your arms around the way the world has been operated by the same people who created this financial system. It’s the very same people. The globalist financial bankers, the central bankers, their cabal, their sycophants that created these systems. And, and that’s why the show is here. This is why we’re here, to expose the past, understand the present and look into the future. So, ladies and gentlemen, you can log on to gowith hawk.com to reach out to Joe and Marianne. That’s gowithhawk.com Jim, do you want to say any final words? No.
I just enjoyed the show today, Scotty, all around. It was a really good show. I do want to add one thing to a knowledge base, thing I think is important we talked about in all of this, taking control over us. You brought in McDonald’s again. What we need to understand is we’re nothing more than energy. And he control. He who controls our energy source controls us. Go back to COVID 19 vaccine. Why did they want to go after the heart? Well, it’s because the heart has a small, tiny brain behind it. It’s that signals your physical brain as we know it on what the body should be doing.
And they wanted to control that messaging system because if they could control that messaging system, then what scripture said, God wrote in our heart, his laws, those laws do not get to our physical brain in order to control our body. Now let’s just go to McDonald. Why do we think that corporations would not want to be in this favorite pitch about controlling us? Because they’re part of the system. They’re part of the cabal. The bankers could not implement their system without the association and an agreement from corporations couldn’t do it. They got to be part of the game.
And when you go to look at where your food Source is if you do not understand what your food source contains and you’re. You put that into your system. Every particle of food that we eat nourishes our body through nutri nutrients, that is energy, it breaks down into energy. And energy is the source of nutrients to ourselves. That’s the reason why frequencies he’ll sell just because they’re energy. What McDonald’s has done is they have taken these body parts and they’ve embedded code into those body parts. So when you consume them, little by little, that code sets and it has a regenerator to it that it regenerates that code over and over again to.
So it grows AI over time to what? Take charge of you? Okay. It is so important for us to understand that what personal application Paul wrote about in Ephesians 4, 5 and 6 about how you get in tune with the Creator, the source of you. The first thing in Ephesians 4 is purity. You’re to provide everything into your system pure. And if you don’t understand what pure means, it means without corruption. So when we go to the fast food places or we go to the grocery store and we’re not paying attention to what we’re buying and putting into our bodies, I go back and said, you’re the currency.
That’s what they’re trying to do. They’re trying to control your mind so that you don’t positively go after those things that exist in this world that will benefit you. You always will. Then go after the negative because it destroys you. And that’s what they’re trying to do. That’s my point. I just hope everybody understands, you know, you’re in total control of this. Jim, you are the creator of God is government. Where can our audience find your work? I got his government or any on any part where you get your podcast around 26 platforms. So wherever you got his government.com or.org.com.
all right, Jim, we’ll see you next week. We appreciate it. Thank you for being here. We appreciate your time. All right, Mr. Joe, what happens when our audience reaches out to America’s financial quarterback? What happens when they reach out to you? And Marianne, walk us through the process. When somebody fills out the form at go to GoWithHawk.com, what’s the process thereafter? It’s just, you know, somebody from my company will reach out to you, my team, and we will learn everything about you. Assets, income, liability, time horizon, risk tolerance, budget, debt, legacy goals. Do you have long term care? Do you have a will? Do you have a trust? You have an escort, how much money you make? We just do a full deep dive.
This, you know, you go to a financial planning like investment advisor guy, he’s going to charge you 10, 20 grand for this is, I just, I do it for free. I’ve done over 10,000 of these fact finders or client financial intake forms. And then from there, you know, I would, you know, we sit down, I, I go over my strategy of utilizing fixing next annuities to fund the next universal life. If you don’t have qualified assets, then we go right into just the 7702 plan. Build to your custom plans, answer all your questions, share my screen.
It’s usually done on Zoom and people are like, I want to build it like that, I want that much. I, I can put this much away. I have this much for a lot. Some, you know, initial contribution and then you know, I show them how they can lean the money out when they need it. I show them the rates of return, you know, double digits tax free over the last 10 years. And people are like, wow, I didn’t even know this exists. And there’s three things I hear. You know, it sounds good to be true. Why doesn’t everybody do this? And I wish I did this when I was, you know, 20 years old.
Those are the three things I hear every single day. Like Today I have 10 hours straight of client appointments from all these podcasts I’m doing and everybody coming into the proper channels to learn about this information. So it’s, it works. It, it’s 24 years, zero complaints. I don’t know what else I could do. 47 awards, three published books, featured in seven main publications like International Business Times with Insider, etc. I just, I just do what I do, which is grind, live in God’s energy, bring value into the marketplace and try to help people. Even if you know I can’t help you with our strategy, then I try and help you.
Else wise, I’ve helped people refinance which I don’t make any money. Help people, do budgets. I don’t make any money. Like I just, I just try and help and it, and it’s the more value you bring into this karmatic energy, you know, spiritual world, the more it comes back to you. It’s just how it works. Empathy breeds more empathy breeds protection and empathy for yourself. Yeah, kid who grew up in the streets is much more likely than the Harvard guy to spend time with. You have that empathy, want to help people. You and your sister Marianne are really take the time to get to Know your customers, you do a lot of, bring a lot of added value to the table.
And I actually knew about you before Dave Hodges brought us together because I have a friend that works for you. Joanne Arstall. Correct. I thought it was really funny. She, she called me Friday, she said, I just got a lead from Sovereign Radio. So I thought that was kind of neat. Kind of a small world, isn’t it? It’s when you’re in this freedom fighter, patriot, Christian conservative, Republican type of, you know, even liberals are, are here, the ones that are in the middle when you, when, when you’re in this fight. And it’s a fight for information and it’s a fight for educating.
It’s a fight for, you know, I hate the term waking people up because they sort of killed it like they did conspiracy theorists, which is just a critical thinker. But when you, when you really look at the fight, there’s a lot of good people here and we all know each other. We’re all connected. We all have the same goals, beliefs, we all want the same thing, which is freedom. Don’t tread on me like, get out of my kids school system, you demonic, you know, ideology. Get out of, you know, my neighborhood, my community. And, and it’s, we all want the same thing, which is, which is heaven on earth.
Which is very difficult when, you know, the powers that be are mostly demonic. There’s a lot of black hats that have power. There’s a lot of fights the white hats are doing. And the fights the white hats are doing are like, hey, let’s not have a nuclear holocaust that the entire planet isn’t, you know, brought down. The whole server of earth isn’t taken offline. So when you, when you look at it, they don’t, they only stretch so thin. It’s up to us to stand up. It’s up. It’s us to us. Up to us to stand up and fight shoulder with shoulder for what we believe in, in a peaceful way that brings value.
And education increases people’s frequency, vibration, energy and light gets them closer to, you know, yahusha, also known as Jesus Christ. And it’s one of those things that it’s important that we keep fighting while God gives us breath, he gives us energy. We fight the powers that be together. Jim talked about food being energy. Money is energy. It can be good energy, can be bad energy. And ladies and gentlemen, if you want to protect and grow your wealth and get that good energy from your money, reach out to Joe and Marianne gowith hawk.com Joe, appreciate you. And we’ll we’ll see you next week.
Thanks, Scotty. Thank you. Well, ladies and gentlemen, that wraps up another episode of the Future of Money and Finance, Part 7, Peer to Peer Payment Systems. Again, thank you for joining us. Reach out to Joan Marianne@gowithhawk.com and we appreciate you hanging in there. We ran a little overtime today, but thanks for joining us on the Future of Money and Finance. And in our next episode, we will talk about quantum, quantum everything. Quantum communications, quantum computing, quantum energy. Everything is going quantum. And that’s going to make a big difference in all of our lives. So we’ll see you on the next episode.
Episode eight, the Future of Money and Finance, Quantum everything. For Jim Pugh, Rob Cunningham and Joe Lombardi, this is Scotty Saks, over and out.
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