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Summary
➡ The speaker discusses their approach to conversations and interviews, emphasizing the importance of back-and-forth dialogue. They also touch on the topic of public opinion and how it can vary widely. The conversation then shifts to Mark Carney, a central banker in Canada, and his potential influence on international relations, particularly with the U.S. The speaker suggests that Carney might be working towards dividing North America for the benefit of Europe or China, rather than solely for Canada’s interests.
➡ The text discusses the negotiation tactics of various countries and entities, including the US, Canada, the European Union, and Iran. It criticizes these tactics as being unreasonable and non-negotiable, suggesting that they are more about power plays than reaching agreements. The text also delves into societal issues, particularly the value placed on credentials and titles in the middle class, and how this can create a rigid class system. It suggests that this system is threatened by figures like Trump, causing anxiety and resistance among those invested in it.
➡ The text discusses the impact of artificial intelligence (AI) on institutions and the potential for it to disrupt traditional systems, such as universities. It also highlights the importance of investing in physical assets like gold and silver to reduce dependence on unstable financial systems. The text criticizes the current system for favoring elites and suggests that AI could democratize society. Lastly, it discusses the potential for capital flight from areas with unfavorable policies and the need for global tax harmonization.
➡ The text discusses the geopolitical and economic strategies of Donald Trump, particularly in relation to Iran and Venezuela. It suggests that Trump’s actions aim to disrupt global financial systems tied to oil trading, which have been used to the disadvantage of the U.S. The text also mentions attempts to dismantle illicit activities like drug cartels and human trafficking. Lastly, it discusses the strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz, and how the U.S. is working to reduce Iran’s control over it.
➡ The speaker discusses various topics including the global dollar system, the potential impact of the midterm elections on the Senate, and the use of peptides for weight loss. They also delve into the integration of the American and Israeli military, questioning who benefits from such a move. The speaker expresses their personal disapproval of this integration, but acknowledges that it may happen regardless of their opinion.
➡ The speaker discusses their disapproval of the U.S.’s involvement in Middle Eastern affairs, arguing that it’s a bad idea. They mention that the U.S. is trying to reroute the world’s oil away from a strategic choke point and build chip factories in Arizona to avoid relying on Taiwan. They also criticize the current political messaging and suggest that it needs to improve. Lastly, they express their frustration with the GOP for not fulfilling the promises made during Trump’s election.
➡ The speaker discusses their work on Patreon, Gold Ghost and Guns, where they analyze financial markets and connect them to political and global events. They emphasize that understanding these connections is crucial to grasp the ongoing global changes and how financial markets influence our views on world affairs.
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Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing and please subscribe below and subscribe Think about joining my substack@SarahWestAll substack.com or my newsletter. You can sign up for that as well@Sarah Westall.com and remember to give a thumbs up and to subscribe on the platform that you’re watching. Welcome to the Friday Night Economic Review. I’m Sarah Westall and I have Tom Luongo coming back to the program and I gotta, I started it out talking about how we had this, his fans, he has this fan base that follows them who were in meltdown. I actually think they were bots.
We talk about it a little bit. Maybe not all bots, maybe some of them were real. But we talk about it a little bit. And I don’t think he’s that fragile. So if you feel that you need to protect him, I don’t think he needs to be protected. He’s not that fragile of a person, especially protected for me. But I have him back this time to talk about the his opinion on what’s going on with Mark Carney, which, you know, he’s a central banker, guys, and so we’re going to talk about what is real. I don’t trust anything coming out of the Canadian strategy because I’m watching Mark Carney and he’s not even realistically doing a negotiation yet telling the Canadian people he is.
His negotiation was we are going to keep all tariffs on the US and we want all of ours removed. That was his negotiation. He didn’t, he didn’t do a negotiation yet. Then he turned around and told the Canadians that the U.S. are bullies and they just want to take us over. It’s just not authentic. He’s lying. He’s just making it up and he’s behaving in a way that hopefully you can see through it. You can’t see through it unless you have some background and you understand and you’re willing to not be triggered. If you’re triggered by everything Trump does, then your emotions are going to get so high and you’re not going to be able to see through some of this.
Okay, I criticize Trump, I criticize the Israelis. We’re going to talk about Israel a little bit here too. I criticize Britain. I’m not afraid to criticize anybody. But I’m also not afraid to look at some what people are doing as good either. I just don’t have an emotional tie to somebody where I’m going to trigger off on everything. I’m going to look at what’s, the actions and what’s going on and say, okay, what really is happening here? I like talking to Tom because he has a different perspective than almost everybody. He’s kind of like Mike Seger from the Promethean Action Group.
They have a different perspective and he, he’s not afraid to share it. He’s going to tell you this is what’s going on. And you know, I push back on a lot of stuff. I don’t like the NDAA with the integrating the military with Israel. I think it’s wrong. There’s a Senate version that has to do with intelligence. There’s a House version that has to do with the military. Both of those I think are wrong. We should never integrate with another country. And we’re going to talk about that. And he, you know, I brought up the word merging and then I switch really quick.
It’s not emerging, it’s integration. Integration is the word that’s used in the actual legislation and people are pushing back because it’s not really emerging. I don’t really see a big difference between the word merging and integration. I guess integration is a lot different than merging. I mean, depending on how much you integrate, it could be very much emerging. If you integrate completely, it’s emerging. If you integrate just parts of it, then it’s not emerging. So it really depends. But if you look at the legislation, it could be a full blown integration depending on how they do it.
So that’s the challenge. So we’re going to talk about that and then we’re going to talk about the fact that he sees the Strait of Hormuz differently. He sees it as a strategic way to make sure that the City of London doesn’t continue, the central bankers don’t continue to have control over the Strait of Hormuz and using it for a trafficking, you know, human trafficking. Illicit drug trade and the oil control of the oil. And he is claiming, and you got to do some more research, but this is plausible. He’s claiming that the strategy of the administration is to blow up that region from, not literally blow it up, but blow it up from.
This isn’t where the oil is, is coming out of anymore. It’s not a choice, a choke point anymore. We’re going to reroute oil from all these other places and that the Strait of Hormuz is no longer relevant because we can’t be dependent on that part of the world because having a choke point over the, over, over the oil supply, plus we want to break down these trafficking networks. That’s his argument. So, okay, well, let’s listen to what the strategy could be from that perspective because if you don’t get to hear both sides, you’re not informed. And so that’s why I like to have people on who talk about both sides.
And you know, I’m probably going to get nailed. The, the bots and the people in this messaging board are not going to be friendly with me. Okay, bring it on. I mean, come on, bring it on. I don’t care anymore because this is my role is to make sure that I expose people to it. Before we get into this, I am working with Ironhawk Financial. You can go to sw hawk.com and you can learn how you can invest like the wealthy. The wealthy figure out how to eliminate as much taxes as possible. And then they use the money they save on taxes for investment.
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So again, go to sw hawk.com today. Okay, let’s get into this. Interesting. And it’s going to be combative for some people. It’s going to be triggering. But I think it’s worth your while to listen to this with Tom Luongo. Hi, Tom. Welcome back to the program. Oh, thank you, Sarah. It’s good to see you. Well, last time, I think your fans had a meltdown because I. I talked a lot in our conversation, and so I’m like, okay, I’m going to have an AI analyze this. How much did I talk? I mean, did I really dominate the conversation? So I did.
No, I goes, you didn’t dominate the conversation. You actually gave him a lot of floor time. You talk. You talked 32% of the time, and he talked 68%. So your fan meltdown. Oh, yeah, no, they’re very. I will say that they are very defensive of me, but I get the same problem when. I get the same problem when criticism on my own podcast. People are going, tom, stop talking. Actually, it’s a joke that we have whenever I do Tommy Kerrigan show with Dave Column and Jim Kunstler. We call it the bald ones. Yeah, right. Dave and I are to the.
Dave and I are to the point now where Dave and I, we both say the same thing, which is that the comments are before anybody even watches it, within five minutes of it getting posted, Dave, change your shirt. And, Tom, stop talking over everybody. And you don’t even have to. And they’re going to complain. And the funny about it, the funny thing about it is that the last time that we did one, I purposefully let Jim and Dave talk for like, 20 minutes. Right. And didn’t say anything other than hi. Did you still get the complaint, though? And within 10 minutes of the posting, six people came in and.
And Dave was like, dude. And he was like, texting, texting me about it. And like, dude, you’re so right. I’m like, I know. They’re just bots. They’re bots. See, I think we have the same bot army that goes against us. I don’t. I don’t know that. I mean, it is what it is. It’s. No, it’s no worries there. I had a lovely time the last time, and I didn’t have a problem with it. And I thought most of the commentary was a little off base, but, you know, what am I going to do? I can’t. I can’t argue with people like they do.
It’s all. It’s all okay. I had someone complain that I talked too much when I was. They were interviewing me, and I’m like, oh, yeah, I get that, too. I was being interviewed. I’m like, okay, man, bring it on. Yeah, exactly. Like, everybody at the end of the day, like, you know, it’s chocolate. Do you like dark chocolate or milk chocolate? Like, at the end of the day, everybody has their preferences. And, you know, some people like the powder, some people don’t. And they’re going to. And the one thing you’re. We’re. We’re not short of right now is people’s opinions, so.
Oh, yeah, we got opinions. Well, but the thing is, you have to. What’s important, what people want these days, for the most part, is conversations. They don’t. Or they just won’t watch you. I mean, if. Okay, let’s say I bring you on and I say nothing and I ask short questions. I don’t expand on it. I don’t challenge you. I don’t do. Why watch me? I mean, you can watch anybody. I do. I. You know, if you want to hear me ramble for an hour, you can just sign up for the. For the market reports, because I.
That’s what I do. I just. I just hug the microphone and do a bullet and do a bully pulpit sermon on Sunday and a midweek update on Wednesdays. Like, you know, you’re good at that. I can do that. And so. But, you know, if we want to have a conversation, we’re gonna have a conversation. This is. This is the way I kind of structure my own. My own. You know, that’s why I structure the Gold Goes and Guns podcast. I tell all the guests when they come on, first 15 minutes is yours. I’ll tee up, say whatever you want.
And then we’re going to, you know, and then I’m going to. I’m going to take. I’m going to take more time as we go along. We’re going to have a back and forth about whatever’s going on. Well, the back and forth is important, though, because if you don’t go back and forth, then. Otherwise, how do you even synthesize or break down that idea? Exactly, Exactly. It’s fine. It’s all good. I know. I knew you weren’t fragile. You’re not a fragile person. I just had to talk about it. Sure. Absolutely. So what are we talking about today? In fact, we are yeah.
Well, let’s get into Mark Carney. Okay. We have, we have this guy who’s a central banker in Canada, who, he was the one that infamously said at the Jackson Hole, Wyoming meeting, which is going on this week again, but he said it five years ago, six years ago now, but famously said, we’re going to go around countries, determine budgets for countries based on carbon credits and blah, blah, blah. I’m paraphrasing. He’s the central banker of central bankers and then Canada. Freaking Alexa. I have a hard time, and so that’s why I want to dissect. No matter what you think of Trump, I have a hard time believing that Mark Carney is doing anything for the sake of Canada alone.
I just. So what’s really going on, do you think? So Carney was, was airdropped into Canada after Trump 1 in 2024 because they knew that he was going to then attempt, in the words of my friend Matt dines, take the UK’s trade franchise away from them. That is Canada. Canada is not. Trump is. Trump is indelicate, I guess is the best way of putting it. Sometimes that’s maybe the most, most, the most polite way of talking about Trump. But he’s not wrong when he says that, you know, look, at the end of the day, Canada was set up from the beginning to be an antipode to the, the fledgling US back in the 17, back in the, the late 18th century, early 19th century.
You know, understand the, the War of 1812 from that perspective. Yada, yada, yada. So when you do that, when you understand that and that, remember Canada as a country, it was, remember for a century it was known as British North America. I still like to think of it as British North America, even though I love Canadians. You know, I mean, at the end of the day, I, I, I do like Canada. I do. I even have a little I heart Canada coffee mug they used to do podcasts with. I don’t anymore because I’m in, I’m boycotting.
But the. But Carney was brought in to manage this relationship and destroy it. He was brought in to take Canada, control it, handed either to the Europeans and, or the Chinese and run a divide and rule play on Trump. And so he can’t consolidate control over North America. Like, it’s not that hard. Trump’s goal is the consolidation of American power in North America and around the Caribbean. He wants the Monroe Doctrine. Now. Canada can continue to be their own separate country if they so choose, as long as they frankly choose wisely. In the same way that Mexico can still be Mexico, but you’re not going to be an adversary and a plaything of foreign powers on our border.
That’s not going to happen. And that’s what he’s, that’s what he means when he says, look, it doesn’t really work as a country. And so the, so if you look at the way the last few months have worked out, let’s go back to when Trump went to Beijing. Well, let’s go back to Davos earlier in the year when Carney made his middle, his middle economies or middle country speech. Let’s talk about Trump going to Davos and saying globalism is done. We’re reinstituting Hamilton. We’re reinstituting the Monroe Doctrine. The, the gauntlet was thrown down like in a kind of like high table geopolitical terms like amongst all of the quote unquote moneyed elites.
The gauntlet was thrown down. The American trade franchise is going to war with all the old, all the other ones, the old British ones, the old French ones, blah, blah, blah, blah. Canada, of course, is right, sits right in the middle of that. And the disposition of Canada is going to be, you know, is, is an open question. Now we can work with the Canadians. Clearly the Albertans want to work with us. They want the Keystone XL pipeline. They want independence from, from Ottawa. You know, I’ve been to Alberta many times. I’ve talked to the guys who, I’ve talked to many of the people who are, you know, I say, I hate to use the word high up or whatever, but just the people who are pushing for Albertan independence, who are spearheading that mo, that movement in Calgary and Edmonton, you know, they’re all for Alberta’s independence.
I’ve made the argument to them they work better as a territory of the United States first. But do they want, do they want to be a territory? I mean, I would think, I don’t think it helps. Go ahead. Well, I was going to say is that this is the argument I’ve made to them for a variety of reasons because the terror, that’s a very complicated question that would actually dominate like a 20 minute part of the conversation that wouldn’t answer your original question. So let’s just, let’s just, let’s just, I want to stay on top. I, I tend to get, I tend to gallop around, but I’m going to do the Trumpian weave thing.
But you know, my point is, is that Alberta, it wants to separate from there still. Quebec is still not happy with, with, with Ottawa. And then so Trump goes to Beijing earlier in the year, like the battlegrounds of the battle lines have all been drawn. So Trump goes to Beijing, has a state visit that’s on the order of, you know, like a, a foreign emperor coming into China. He’s treated like royalty, right? For sure. Mark Carney’s treated like the help. And, but Carney gets a, gets a small trade deal out of, out of Xi, which has with it some things that contravene the usmca, the trade deal which ensure that Trump is going to cancel the usmca, open up trade talks and then blow everything up.
Now they can all look at the calendar. They knew when the USMCA was going to expire, they knew how long Trump was going to put a 30 day waiver on it. And then, you know, the new tariffs were going to come into place. What you’re saying, everybody knew that this date was set like the, the, the date of this set, of this fight was set for this last week, six months ago, a year ago. Everybody could see it coming. So one of the things that, you know, Carney claims that he was trying to negotiate. When I was reading over what was happening, his demands were to remove all tariffs off Canada, but remain all the tariffs in the other direction election.
That’s what I read. And that there wasn’t a reasonable negotiation. So he really was never trying to negotiate. Who negotiates like that? It’s not a negotiation, right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean this importantly, who negotiates like that? Somebody was trying to blow it up. The European, the European Union negotiated Brexit that way. The Ukrainians had negotiated the Russia, Ukraine war that way. We want Crimea back. You’ve lost half your country and you want a third of your country and you want Crimea back. Yeah, there was no negotiation with Ukraine. They weren’t serious.
But do you think they’re, do you think they’re, they’re serious? They really think that this is because. Are they that arrogant walking in or do they know it’s going to blow up? No, they’re trying to blow it up. Yeah, that’s my point. Okay. No, yeah. No, I’m just saying there’s a pattern of behavior here and that pattern is always the same. Note, the Iranians have been negotiating basically the same way. We have all these red lines. You’re like, you’ve lost the war and you still say we have the right to, to, you know, enrich uranium and make a nuclear weapon.
Like, no, you don’t. You lost the War. The Ukrainians have lost a third of their territory. We still want Crimea back. We want the original borders back. Like, you’re not negotiating. This is not a negotiation. You want a law, you want a war is what you’re saying. And this is very, this is very clear through history how this has played. This type of thing has always played out. And then you, they cry about it, they note they don’t negotiate, and then they go and they complain and they cry victim that they do this over and over.
And one of the things that I notice every time is every time I bring up something about Canada, I get blasted in the comments from Canadians that they’re very angry because Trump’s trying to take over. I think they’re bots, or maybe they’re real people. I’m not sure. Yeah. And I want to know, are they real people? And I can see the anger a little bit with Trump’s comments. Right. You’re just, we just want to make you a 51st state and all this other stuff that, and, but they’re triggered. Are there really support of Mark Carney? Do they understand who they elected? I mean, I don’t even know if they elected him, but do they understand the, the, the middle class Canadians are just like the middle class white Americans who hate Trump.
They have the exact same disease. And that disease, I think, and I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently and something, I just did a, a show with Nathan Simmons, who’s Canadian, the bitcoin podcaster, and we didn’t get to this particular angle on it, but I was talking about talking with him about it afterwards. And, and I think that there’s, there’s something about the managerial state. Right. This is that whole James Burnham managerial revolution thing. We have, we exist both, both countries have a tremendous end. The EU and the UK have a very ordered class system with a very ordered, with credentials and the managerial state.
And there’s a lot of people in the American and Canadian middle class, especially who, that’s what they invested in. They invested in. You go to school, you get the credential, you get the job, you get the, you get the, you get the, the, the house in suburbia, the three, two in suburbia with the two, with the two and a half kids, yada, yada, yada. And anything that threatens that, that process, that structure, and that’s what determines what a good person is and a good enlightened person, and they watch CBC and they read the New York Times and they have all the, they have all the trappings of this is what a good person looks like and everybody else is a mouth breathing redneck who cuts my lawn.
And I hate to like be blunt about it, but you know, it’s a very European attitude of well, the Hungarians are the help, the Ukrainians are ours, the Americans are our gendarme. You know, this is the way that, this is the way the, that that mindset is. And, and it’s a very, and, and, and they’ve captured for themselves and it’s a very, it’s a very American in a, in American society. I used to call that middle middle class, the middle middle class problem. Like the middle middle class in the United States were people who used to be poor are desperately want to be upper middle class.
So they want to be, they’re, they’re upwardly because they know that they, that it doesn’t take much for them to fall back to where they came from. And they, and so they, there’s this real anxiety in that class and they can feel any change to that system where they are in that strata that they’re in any change that, and they’re going to fall and they don’t want to fall. They bet the farm on not on this system staying in place. And Trump is a fundamental threat to that strata of society. And that’s the people whose Carney and the British establishment and our media, that’s what they provoke all the time.
That’s what they, that’s what they trigger and tweak. And Trump doesn’t do himself any favors, mind you. And he goes out there and he says, he goes out and he says things like, oh yeah, I work as a country. He should be the 51st state. Like, you know, and he just triggers that. And so I mean I, it’s, it’s funny, I’ve lived just north of Gainesville, Florida for most of my adult life. It means the University of Florida, right? And this is the, and that town, most college towns are dominated with these people. Why? Because they all bought into that system.
So that whole, if you look at the way Florida votes, you’ll see where all the major universities are, the ones that vote blue, by the way, Alas, County, Leon. Let’s dive into that a little bit. And it’s, and it’s everywhere and it’s in, it’s in Toronto. But okay, I, I’m, I value knowledge, right? I’m like, I have thirsty for learning. I’m always trying to learn. But titles is what they value and, and titles and, and coming from like an engineering background, you know, it’s obvious. It’s. Okay, let’s talk about from a sports background. It’s like valuing the clinics that you go to, not how good you are on the field.
Right. The clinics help you become better. And sometimes the clinics are so amazing that they do produce a little bit better people. But in general it’s how you produce on the field, not what clinics you go to. Right. It’s not, it’s not the, it’s not the letters after your name. It’s, you know, the things that you’ve actually accomplished. That’s right. And I like to compare it to sports because it’s so obvious, but it’s the same thing. And when you work with somebody on a daily basis, it becomes obvious who’s good and who’s not. Right. And the PhDs and the Master’s degrees and everything else kind of goes away and nobody gives a crap.
But in that environment, title and in media, it’s the same way media, oh my God, especially the left media, if you don’t have a title, you don’t even get called to talk on some of these things. It’s all about freaking titles. And they’ve credentialism and especially. That’s what I was getting at. And the credentialism is terrible. Like just to give you a classic example, I mean we’ve run into this my entire life. My, my wife for years, you know, couldn’t get, you know, an entry level job with the, you know, okay, the biggest, the biggest employer in that area of the country in that area is the University of Florida by far like be it UF Health, the university and all of its subsidiaries.
Right. Credentialism is so deep that to be, to be, to be a secretary, you need a degree like you need to be. You need a BA and three years experience to get a nine dollar an hour job in the 1990s. A nine dollar an hour job with benefits, you know, pushing papers and answering phones. Really. And like in hr, the, so the HR departments dominated everything. Credentialism dominated everything. They, and this is all part of that. If you read Burnham’s Managerial the Managerial Revolution, you’ll see it writ large. Like they, they, Dexter White and I have been talking about this for years and it’s, I think it’s, we have very managerial, technocratic bureaucratic institutions and the bureaucrats don’t want their, you know, they just want everybody to continue going.
They want the guys to go out everywhere and dig ditches, but they’re not going to dig ditches. Well, it’s an elitist. It’s another way to create an elite system. But, but AI is going to OK and push it down. But most of. Yeah, elitism, yes. And push it down the stack to even the lower middle class, you know, the people who, you know, the assist. The associate professors making 60 grand a year and thinking that, you know in women’s studies and think. And thinking that they’re more important to society than the guys who pick up the garbage.
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Yeah. Or the entrepreneur that doesn’t have a degree but is employing 100 people. So it’s becoming just ridiculous. But I think AI. I just had a long conversation with my son about this. He works a lot with the AI. I think AI is going to throw universities completely on its head because now it’s like the merit based system is going to be completely challenged. But I think in this transitional period, the university, because they’re businesses and people need to realize they’re businesses who have captured markets and what they’re going to do is they’re going to dig their heels in further and try to redefine this.
And they’re doing it in the tech industries where the, the AI researchers all need to have PhDs. Now they don’t care about how good of an engineer you are, how good you a thinker. Are they high? The universities have hijacked that and things are changing in that arena too. But I think everything’s going to be thrown up in the air and they’re going to double down on this title BS for a while. Yeah, yeah. No they will. And that’s why they, and, and it’s, and so it’s easy when you have, when those, when people who have been inculcated in the system and have benefited from the system and have built a life of skill sets that are successful within that system.
Why anything that threatens that of course is going to provoke a backlash, going to provoke a trigger, and then it gets the end. That’s just one angle on the stair, Sarah. That’s like the everyday thing you’re asking, like why the. But it’s effect that’s gonna, that fundamentally affects the society though. But I agree, what I’m getting at is that those people are now the useful idiots of the, of those that actually erected that system who are the ones extracting all the wealth out of the. Yeah. Out of the system and then use that as, and then use that as a, as a divide and rule play within the political process.
That’s why we have, it’s why you have just such rabid, insane hatred for any kind of change. And they see it, they see the, they see what you’re talking about. They see what Trump is. They, they see, they, they literally have been told that this technocratic revolution is the height of human fairness or egalitarianism. They’ve, it’s all been lumped in one big, big, you know, ugly morass of, of, of, of egalitarianism, of anti colonialism. It’s anti capitalism. It’s everywhere. And it’s all being, it’s all being reinforced by, through tax, through tax codes, through the infl. Through the inflation process, through all of this stuff.
And, and the wealth is being extracted from the productive classes into the managerial class. You get the first who get the scraps at the table, but the majority of the wealth goes to the, you know, I guess the, the Peter Stan on the other day used the, the phrase fiat elite at me and I thought that was a really good, I think it’s, I think he attributed to safety in a moose, the, the Bitcoin guy, which is a great phrase. And I think you have to realize that that’s part of the, the process here is that the fiat leader making all the money.
They’re centered in Europe, they’re centered in London. They’re centered, they’re all over the world. There’s some of them in the US So clearly there’s some of them in the Middle east and all the way around the world. I’m not going to say that it’s, but the system itself was designed from the ground up in Europe and it’s just old European colonialism that has morphed and changed over time in it where the external trappings are different, but the Essence of it is the same move all the money into, through us, we get all the money, we get first dibs on all the profit and then we, and we redistribute the, the, the dregs to, to those who are going to enforce that for us.
And the managerial class in this, in this sense is then they’re praetorians. So think of it this way. Canada, a place of unbelievable natural resource wealth, is poorer on average than the poorest American state. Right. Same thing in England. And it’s not like the English people are benefiting from what London’s been doing for all these years. They’re not, they’re even worse off. Like they’re, they’re the, the, the median income and living, you know, lifestyle for most of Europe is lower than the people living in Mississippi. And Mississippi is one of the poorest states in the, in the union.
Right. And isn’t that surprising? I mean, they never look at these numbers and when they compare, when they bring in all these Democrat socialists, they say, yeah, nothing, I mean, like nothing in history has worked, you know, but yet magically it’s going to work this time. And it’s this delusional thing. So what are they going to do about risk of flight, you know, capital leaving? There’s a flight risk of capital in New York. It’s already leaving. Yeah, no, they know that’s. And they know it. They address it. They address it and they address it by saying, well, what we need to do is just have it universal.
Kind of like what they did in Covid, where there were certain cities that had rules and they wanted to make sure all the cities had the rules so that you couldn’t just go with, to another city or whatever. You couldn’t escape it. You couldn’t. Thus the federalism. They hate federalism. They always have. When federalism by definition was, well, you know, if you don’t like the rules in New York, you can move to Tennessee or some other place and, you know, build a business somewhere else. Yeah. And, and it’s, and you know, think about when Janet Yellen was the head of the Fed and then the Treasury Secretary she was selling us out to for tax harmonization with the OECD so that everybody had the same tax rules the world over.
Why, you know, we all have to have the same corporate tax rate so that nobody can have an advantage against anybody else. It was all this same because our crap is so bad that these people are going to leave. Why don’t you have the different mindset? Let’s create the best system. So everybody wants to come here. Well, that’s kind of what Trump is. That’s what, that’s what Trump is arguing for. It’s like, I’m going to make this place the destination of capital to come to the United States. And I’m also at the same time going to begin breaking down the major network nodes of the cash flow so that the wealth extraction reverses itself.
So it’s not going. It’s not leaving the U.S. it’s coming back to the U.S. and it’s going actually. And it actually gets transmitted down the capital stack to Main street first and then. And then Wall street gets. Gets it. Well, that’s important because that reinvigorates the people. But of course, now, when you look at Trump made a lot of strategic. I’m going to say he made some strategic mistakes at least, but politically. And he might not have very many good friends around him helping him with the messaging. I think that’s an understatement. So he probably has some sabotage going on in his environment.
He got himself into a mess with Iran, I think. I think there was decisions. I’m going to be. I really think there were some poor decisions because the straight harmous is a. Is. Should not. We shouldn’t be in this entanglement. It should have been a pretty quick thing. And then not understanding the capabilities of our military compared to their drone warfare and is dinosaurs running the military versus understanding what technology really is at. I fundamentally disagree with that. Good. Okay. Well, then let’s. Good. And I’ll tell you. And I’ll tell you why. Yeah, I’ll tell you why.
All right, let’s start from the beginning. The idea that Donald Trump went into. Went into the, the conflict with Iran without understanding the situation is, I think Not. Not. I don’t understand. He knew he was going to be in this quagmire of hormone. No, no, no. I don’t, I don’t. I don’t think it’s. I don’t think Hormuz is a quagmire. I think Hormuz is done. It’s been done. You think it’s a feature? It’s absolutely a feature. Because. Because. What do you think? What do you think, Scott? What do you think has been happening since then? And this is where it gets really a little complicated.
I have to make sure that I don’t get lost on time here because I do have another commitment, but because it’s a lot to lay out, but in broad, in the broadest strokes, imaginable. Look at it this way. If your goal is to blow up the global geographic and financial choke points, if your goal is to blow up the network node of illicit oil trading and around the world which is in effect liquefying the Japanese yen carry trade, everything that’s happening, everything that you’re seeing out of Mark Carney and the European Union, the Bank of England, the more I study this, the more it’s really obvious to me that they were running a, they were running a very sophisticated oil collateralized, what’s the best word? Extra leverage game that would then bias markets in, in to their advantage at the, at the expense of the U.S.
now what Trump is doing is it was, what he did originally is he blew that up. He said, look, we can’t have this system continue the way it’s going. So first he goes into Venezuela and nope, trying to, yeah, you don’t go, you don’t, you don’t get to buy Venezuelan oil at 25 a barrel anymore. You’re going to pay retail for it. That’s just the Chinese side of it. There’s also that Venezuela itself is a network node in the old British. Okay, so you’re saying, okay, so you’re saying the nuclear, but the, the nuclear war angle is important.
Okay, but I think it’s BS but go ahead. That part, it’s not, it’s not, it’s not B.S. it’s not B.S. the Iranians were enriching uranium. Yeah, but they’ve been enriching uranium for decades. But regardless, I, I mean I, they could have at any point. But I think that was, I do, I do believe that the economic reasons and what you’re saying seems plausible, that that is the plausibility. I think that nuclear is what people would, would accept more publicly. So that’s what they use as a reason. That’s part of it. But he also doesn’t want Iran to have a nuclear weapon because once Iran has a nuclear weapon then there you lose the window to actually blow up this old network operation.
And they now control the straight, they really control the Strait of. Okay, that’s fair. Okay, that’s fair. Now that’s part of okay, taking over Venezuela, being energy independent before you went and nailed what most was important. It’s not that, it’s actually not that. It’s about breaking down the drug cartels, the human trafficking cartels, the money that’s flowing through Venezuela and offshore British banks in the Caribbean and all of that stuff. That’s one angle on it. Now take or take a Venezuela multiply it by 10 and that’s Iran. Okay, but now why, why is the messaging not bad? Because that messaging is the.
How hard it is for me who thinks, thinks he can explain it. And I’m sitting here in this, in this part of the space where I, I get an alley. I think that’s an easier thing to explain. It’s not an easier thing to explain. What’s an easier thing to explain is. I think it is. We are. Well, that’s what Scott Besson is doing right now. What Scott Besson is doing right now is saying, I. Okay, it just makes sense. It’s that, the same, that same managerial class that hates Donald Trump, regardless, you think that the NPAs in the United States are going to go.
We’re. We started a war in Iran to go after England, bank of England. Okay, I get that. Really? I get that. Well, I can’t even make that. I can’t even make that argument. And people look at me like I got four heads. Right? Well, nobody. It makes sense that people in my audience, because they understand who’s behind wars, who’s behind trafficking, who’s behind all this stuff. Right? So I get that. But we have to remember that we’re, we have to remember that we’re three to five sigmas away from the norm. That’s right. When you listen to.
That’s why I listen to npr, because I like to. I don’t do it all the time because it bothers me, but there are some good, There are some good programs when it comes to science and different perspectives. I learned some things, but in general, holy crap, is the bias there, like you. The bias is every adjective before they said it is. Trump is a, I mean, Right. In some. So they’re appraising weight. I haven’t done a great job, like, laying out what’s really going on here, but oil is the collateral for the entire financial system. Okay? Oil on ships can be used as collateral for future, for future loan payments.
It can be used to buy a yen short, which you then use to rig the German bond market. It can be used to traffic children around the world. It can be used for any, Used to buy weapons. It can be used for any of these reasons. So, and this is where, frankly, I cover all this for my patrons in great detail. Like, I’ve got hours and tens of hours, hundreds of hours now practically on this particular topic. So the, the goal in, in Hormuz was to break the chokehold and the potential threat that Iran would ever hold this over the world ever again.
And reroute the oil flow around it and push the marginal barrel of oil production and oil flow out of the hands of Lloyds of London, ensuring it all old European shipping companies and the reinsurance companies and move it all that financial. But okay, so I to the United States then, then you can now start to really attack the foundations of the very people that have gotten the United States domestically in the position that it’s in today. But do we have a partner, do we have a partner in Netanyahu that’s a little bit out of whack. That isn’t.
Netanyahu is not really our partner because Netanyahu is many things. But notice how Israel’s not really part of the conversation anymore. Well, because Israel was a problem in some of their behaviors. Not saying that I am now talking strictly about Iran and about everything post the first three weeks of the Iranian, of the, of the Iranian gambit because have the Iranians shot one missile at the Israelis since March? No, they haven’t. No. But they have shot missiles at oil tankers. They have shot missiles at Qatar, the uae, Bahrain, this place that. The whole Middle East. Yeah.
Because what they’re trying to do is they’re trying to say we need oil at a much higher price and we need to be able to control how if we’re they. The goal for the Iranians was to control Hormuz so that they could be the only exporters of oil. They could be in control of who gets to export oil out of the Middle east, out of Hormuz. The, the United States was playing the exact opposite game. As far as I’m concerned, we’re winning that fight. The, the Saudis already sort of started moving oil out through the Red Sea.
Everybody moved their tankers over to the Gulf of America and other they’re loading up in other places. There are pipelines being built all over the place. The UAE is now exporting through Fujairah on south of Hormuz almost 2 billion, 2 million barrels a day. They’ll probably go to 4 million by the end of next year. Hormuz by the time this is all over. Scott Basin is not wrong when he says Hormuz in a year or two won’t even matter anymore because Iran had a fire and forget weapon which was we’re going to take out and control the Strait of Hormuz and we’re going to threaten the world with 200 barrel oil.
We’re going to be, we’re going to sink a carrier. They told us what they were going to do sink a carrier, force Trump to back off. We’re in control of the strait and then we can export oil at 200 a barrel around the world, which can be used at an expanded collateral base to then attack the finance the US Financial markets. That was their goal. All of those things failed. And now Besson is in, is in the process of cleaning everything up by now saying guess what, folks, everybody who’s done business with Iran, we’re taking you out of the global, the global dollar system as well.
And the people who that is actually I think targeted at are the Canadian banks, which is now why and London and Europe. And again, it gets, I mean, I have to spend 20 minutes setting up the interesting, I think people need to look at this because it’s not very well communicated. I understand there’s people need to look at this more. It’s kind of like the Promethean Action Group are talking about this as well. They are talking about this. They’re not quite talking about the yen carry trade the way I am. But I can tell you that from, for the last couple of months, I’ve been talking about it for my patrons.
I’ve got, I’ve got verbiage coming in. I’ve got a big freaking article coming in this month’s newsletter. We haven’t quite published it. We’ll publish the next couple days explaining the mechanisms of all of this broad enough where it actually penetrates into the American public. Because I think that it doesn’t actually need to. You don’t think so? No, I do not. I don’t. I think Trump before the midterm elections, I mean, I don’t think, I don’t think Trump cares about the midterm elections on this front. I think these are stories that are bigger than the midterms. But do you think it matters if the Republicans lose the power of the Congress? They’re going to lose the House.
They may lose the House. I’m going to get the house 50. 50. They’re not losing the Senate. As a matter of fact, they’ll probably, they’ll probably wind up with a stronger majority in the Senate by the time they’re finished because Mitch McConnell will be gone. Depending on how the South Carolina runoff thing goes today, Lindsey Graham’s sister will probably wind up winning that. She’s going to be loyal to Trump. Susan Collins is going to win in Maine and she’s not going to have to, we’re not going to have to worry about her vote for the next three or four years.
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What do you think of the integration section 619 and what is the other one, the merging of the, the military? It’s not merging. They called it integration. It’s both in the. And you don’t think they’re going to pass or do you think they will? Because I don’t, I don’t think, I think, I think everybody has demagogue. That’s issue the same way that they demagogued Scott Besson’s intervention in the end, by the way, or what he did last week with, with the treasury works. Everything Trump does, everything that happens is an insane overreaction. Now there’s two things about the NDA.
What I’ll say is the following. We use whether we should or should not be using Israel as our skunk works for our military stuff in the Middle east, which is what we do. That’s a good question. Everybody should be, everybody should have have an opinion about that. And as far as I’m concerned, I don’t think we should be doing it. But we do do it and we’ve been doing it for decades. Meaning the Israelis are our skunk works that we test our stuff against Russian equipment. Iran is about testing against Chinese equipment and the Israelis have given us like it or not, folks.
Again, I’m not here to praise or damn Israel on this front. I have my own opinions about that. I’m just going to tell you what the facts are. The facts are that we get billions and billions of dollars in research and real world testing for our military equipment in the Middle east through Israel and that’s to Israel’s detriment as well as to our detriment. The Israeli people don’t really benefit from this either. So the, the NDAA thing, if you read the, the, the section 270 of the NDAA, it is really nothing more than a non monetary version of the exact same kind of intelligence sharing that we already do, that we pay, that we pay for.
So now we’re not paying for it. And we used to give them 18 billion. This is a way to be able to give them as political but this is more political. It’s called we’re not. Well you just said, you know, you’re not giving it to them because you’re just integrating and so then they have, you can get it, give it to them indirectly. It’s you just do it. You pay for it as part of the integration of your military. You’re not integrating your. That’s the words they used. But that’s the words in the. We’ve already had.
That’s what we already have. Integration is in the words in the word. Well, I don’t, it’s not a. But it’s not. To call it a merging of the Israeli and the American military is a gross overstatement and it’s. That’s why I changed the. No, that’s why I changed the word. It’s integration. The word integration is what’s used in the legislation and that’s used through. And, and it’s also at many ways. Do you think that that wouldn’t be a poison pill? Okay, who wrote that legislation? Do you think it’s going to. I have no idea. I don’t, I don’t even, I don’t even really.
I don’t even Like I would look at it this way. Given the fact that we’ve been running that we’ve been watching somebody I would argue London run a three year since October 7th. 10-7-10, 7, 2023 a three year vitriolic and well deserved but vitriolic anti Israeli propaganda campaign. It’s both deserved and vitriolic meaning what they did in Gaza is completely unacceptable in every way. Yeah but, but don’t separate that out from the strategic, from who benefits strategically from that and that’s where you get back to, is Netanyahu a villain? Probably. Is he a hero? I doubt it.
Meaning who benefits strategically from all of that taking place? And then who would benefit after Epstein, after this, after all of this? Who benefits from putting that kind of rider into the ndaa, which everybody knows needs to pass Congress. Who benefits from that? The very same people who threw. Who fomented 107 in the first place to get the Israelis to go off half cocked and level Gaza like it’s the same people. They cut out there for a second, they cut that out. Who benefited? That’s weird. Who benefits? I keep arguing it’s London all over again. It’s always London.
Okay, perfect. Ok. What I thought you said. Because it’s a, it’s a. I didn’t actually say it. All I’m saying is like who benefits? Same people who, who probably were behind 107 in the first place because it was pulled off by the wing of Hamas at the time that was backed by Qatar and Qatar is a freaking city of London carve out which. Who we’ve now flipped onto our side after the Iran gambit and we’re like, no, we’re putting the Qataris on a frigging leash. We’re putting, we’re putting on the UAE on our leash. We’re trying to put this.
We’re putting the Saudis on our leash. And all of these people are. You’re. We can’t. We have to look at it. We have to remember two things. There are no alliances and allegiances in international relations. There are only interests. Israel has their interests, we have ours. Sometimes they overlap. Iran has their interests. That’s why people don’t like for exactly what you’re saying. That’s why people don’t like integration. I have no, I do not want to see this pass. If you want my opinion on this, I will give you my opinion. Do I think my opinion is worth 2 cents? No, I don’t.
That’s what your opinion is. I want your analysis and your opinion. The problem is, makes it look like that’s your opinion. You have to say, okay, I don’t like it, but this is the analysis. I love your analysis, but this is. I don’t want it. But this is what’s happening. If you want. Look, if you want my opinion, I’m like, no, I think it’s a terrible idea. I think we should have been never been involved in any of this in the first place. I think I said that five minutes ago. What I’m saying is this is what we’re doing and I think be.
And what we’ve done and all this section 270 is, is a, is a, is a non monetary way of putting it in, that’s right, in legislation. So now Congress, previously Congress had zero oversight into the situation. Now you put it, now you put it in legislation and now Congress has some oversight into it. Doesn’t make, you know, and everybody is now demagoguing the, into a, you know, into this thing that’s not, that’s always been there. Like you’re angry about it now. Like, well, but they’re building into the building in the legislation that the President can’t limit it without a 15 day notice with Congress.
They’re making it very difficult for a future president to ever back out of it. I agree. Why would a nation state be integrated with another? You know, I don’t know. I don’t, I don’t think it’s a good idea. I think it’s a terrible idea. I don’t want us doing this anymore. I also want us out of the Middle East. And guess what? So far the Iranians have done a bang up job of blowing up a lot of our old bases so that we’re never going to rebuild them. Wait, so, so here’s, so here’s one for you.
Here’s another way to refrain, reframe some of the things that have happened. You think this is a quagmire again? I gotta make sure that I got 10 minutes. This is a, here’s the quagmire. Right. But here’s the thing. You’re Trump. You want to blow this thing up. You want to reroute the world’s oil away from this strategic choke point. Right. Which is a problem because it’s a choke point that if we don’t blow it up, we’re going to lose the ability to blow it up. And then it becomes a constant for the next hundred years. That makes sense.
No, that strategic. That makes sense. Okay, so now think about Taiwan. Why do you think we’re building chip factories out in Arizona right next to the largest deposit of helium in the entire world, which is in Northeast Arizona. That’s why we’re building hot dry Taiwan outside of Phoenix, by the way. Why? So that Taiwan is no longer a single point of failure for the global economy. Right. Okay, so but if you’re Trump and you’re like, well, I could lose, I could do all this and then we could get President AOC in 2028 and these people come right back in and try and erect the Old system that was in place before I came into power.
Well, not if all the old, all the infrastructure that was there to fight World War III is no longer there to fight World War iii because he’s brought some of it home. The infrastructure, the bases, the forward. The forward positions and everything else now. And the American people aren’t going to want to pay for that anymore. And that’s become a big political issue. We finally got ourselves somewhat out of the Middle east, pulled troops out of Syria, we’ve pulled out of Afghanistan where the, the bases are going away. And the situation with, with Iran as of right now is simply we’re in control of the straits.
Whatever oil is coming out of the, out of Hormuz where we’re escorting, is it 100% effective? No. Does the ship get blown up every once in a while? Yes. But Iran is not exporting oil. And doesn’t matter whether you like it or not. That’s what’s happening. And by the time this is all finished, the world will have been rerouted around hormones. That’s a good thing. That would. The rerouting of the oil, but. And there won’t be 25American military bases over there anymore. That’s a good thing. Now, I think the messaging is, is horse crap because I agree, nobody’s talking about.
Besson is starting to. But, you know, like I said, I listen to some of this other media. It is bad. And you have to. I had Mike Steger on from Promethean Action Group. I’m like, you guys are one of the only ones out there. Even messaging in a smart, intelligent way. I just don’t see smart, intelligent messaging. I see stupid messaging everywhere. Well, there’s two things about this, and I will not disagree about the messaging. And it’s been a real, it’s been a real sore point on this. My goal is to find out, I guess always I’m just doing the analysis to try and figure out what they’re actually trying to do.
And then of course I, then I do my best to try and communicate that, that I, I get. You know, do you see me like, walking up the stack of, of, of the. Do you see me on Tucker Carlson? No. There’s a reason for that, of course. Even though, even though, you know, I’ve had, you know, even though he’s had guests on who are my friends and they’ve recommended me to him and nothing ever happened. It doesn’t matter. I’m not bitter. I’m just telling you that there’s a gatekeeping process that exists. You know, this is what.
And you know this as well as I do. So what I have noticed is that the third week in July is generally the kickoff of the political season for every, for the mid, for, for congressional and senatorial elections. Right. The primaries are mostly out of the way at that point. Congress wants to go home and start campaigning. And what has Trump done? Trump has backed away from a lot of the messaging and he’s left and while he goes out in campaigns, does rallies and does this Trump thing to shore up the base because it’s the midterm election and whoever turns out the base better is going to win.
Right. So from a strategic political strategy perspective, Trump is now transitioning into the role he needs to be in, which is not out there triggering the managerial class that we opened the podcast with. While Besant and Vice President Vance are doing the podcast circuit, explaining in great better detail what the President’s actual overall strategy is. And I think that’s very smart because the goal now is to grab the right leaning and even somewhat left leaning NPAs, non party affiliated people to go to the polls and go, oh, okay, they do have a plan. They understand what’s going on.
Yeah, it all seems crazy, but the world didn’t end and we blew up Iran and, and you know, for the app for our crowds, that’s a tough pill to swallow sometimes because when you’re hyper focused, you know, your focus determines your reality. Right. And so most people get up in the morning, go to work, interact with the news for and the, the headline, stream for 10 or 15 minutes a day, crack a beer, watch something on Netflix and go to bed. You and me, we spend nine hours, ten hours a day doing this. We’re steeped in it all day long.
We have a different perspective. Yeah. That’s why I say that the messaging needs to get a lot better. And I also think that we need to, to be different type of people giving the messaging. I don’t think because they TR the two that they have out there, which is better still triggering a lot of people and they’re just, it just needs to be. You’re never, you don’t, you’re never. At this point in time, we’re too divided of people that you’re going to get. All you need is enough people to show up, get 51%, cut the cheating down to a minimum.
The discotus gave us a bunch of really good results yesterday about mail in ballots and all the rest of it. And you know, the bigger, the biggest messaging problem they have at this point is that people hate the GOP because the GOP is not, because the GOP in the House and the Senate have not done what the people elected Trump to do. That’s the biggest obstacle and that’s not in Trump’s control. But it’s, that’s what I’m saying. The messaging, it makes him look bad. And they’re not fighting it, and they’re not. But where I know you have a tight deadline, where can people follow you because they can learn more about how you think, which is, like I said, there’s few out there thinking like this and they need, people need to look at it from a balanced perspective and learn some of the other things that are happening strategically.
Sure. I appreciate, and I appreciate it and I wish I had a little bit more time and I hadn’t like over scheduled myself today or I would have been happy to spend another 15, 20 minutes doing this, but I unfortunately have to run. You can find me over on Twitter over at TFL 1728, every day doing battle, trying to interject facts into the narrative and sometimes taking the piss out of people, which I shouldn’t do. You can also find me on the blog over Tom Luongo Me, which is where episodes of the podcast will come up on a regular basis, as well as Patreon, Gold Ghost and Guns, which is where, you know, we publish the newsletter.
I do the market reports. I go, I, I tie what I see in the financial markets to the political and geopolitical analysis and the headline analysis. And I try to show you how the two are. There is no separation between them. And that’s the hard, that’s the hard thing to do in a, in a, in a podcast that’s not really designed around, you know, that kind of thing. When I’m on a bitcoin podcast or, you know, a financial podcast, I can launch right into bond spreads and, you know, all that stuff. But you have to tie in the, the, I like to tie in geopolitics because there’s a global reset going on.
If you’re not paying attention to it, then you don’t understand, you don’t understand what’s really going on with economics. And, and for the, the, the geopolitics are tied directly to the financial markets and how the financial markets are used to shape your opinions on geopolitics. That’s right. They are symbiotic. Very much so. Very much so. Well, thank you so much for joining me today. We’ll have you back.
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