Food Supply Collapse Likely Economic and Cultural Crisis Underlying Factors w/ Brian Reisinger

➡ The farming industry is facing a crisis due to economic pressures and immigration issues. Farmers are struggling to pay their workers, many of whom are immigrants, due to the economic system that has left many family farms behind. The industry is at risk of collapse, which could lead to a food shortage. This situation is worsened by the fact that many American-born workers are not stepping up to fill the farming jobs, leading to a reliance on immigrant labor.
➡ Farmers in the U.S. are struggling due to economic pressures and a lack of reliable labor. Many rely on immigrant workers as they can’t find enough local workers willing to do the hard work required on farms. This situation is worsened by the fact that farms are financially strained, unable to pay higher wages due to tight margins and a challenging economic climate. This labor issue, coupled with policies favoring larger farms, is leading to higher food prices and a vulnerable food supply chain.
➡ The article discusses the impact of large distribution centers and government policies on the food supply chain. It highlights how the closure of big centers due to COVID-19 or bird flu can significantly affect food supply and prices. The article also points out that policies favoring large farms over small ones can lead to a lack of competition, lower food quality, and vulnerability in the industry. Lastly, it emphasizes the need for reform to support small farms and improve food quality, while also addressing issues like seed control and immigration.
➡ The article discusses the current state of American farming, highlighting issues such as money laundering, lack of understanding from policymakers, and the impact of big tech companies. It emphasizes the need for a shift in focus towards understanding and supporting family farms, which are disappearing at an alarming rate. The author suggests solutions like research and development revolution, fair market policies, and encouraging entrepreneurial opportunities for farmers. The article ends with a warning about the potential collapse of the food system in the event of an economic recession.
➡ The article discusses the potential collapse of the food system due to economic shocks and the loss of family farms. It highlights the vulnerability of our integrated supply chain and the risk of relying on a few individuals to save the food supply during crises. The author suggests that we need to make changes to support farm families and prevent a centralized food system that could be detrimental to our health and economy. He encourages people to learn more about this issue and take action to prevent a potential disaster.
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Situation is really kind of dire. And so these farmers who are hiring labor, they. They’d love to be able to pay more, whether it’s to immigrant labor or whether American born there, but they’d love to be able to pay more, but they can’t because of the way that our country has really, our economic system has left so many family farmers behind. And so things are very, very tight. And that adds to the issue. Not only do you have a lot of immigrant labor, you know, performing picking of vegetables and things like that, but you’ve just got a lot of farms that are in that tough economic situation where it’s the only thing available to them.

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And with the looming economic crisis happening, there is a war raging on geopolitically and on the monetary systems and anything that. That temporarily really puts us in a tough spot, which even if we come out clean and they have a really good solid economic system for the United States going forward, there could be a really rough patch. And the concern if Congress and the administration doesn’t start paying attention to our farmers, we are at risk to having a food collapse of our food system. And the globalists have been wanting to centralize food and industry and our farming, it looks like, for decades now.

Whether it’s on purpose or whether it is Just based on policy because of lobbyists and the big farms, I don’t know. But it’s continually putting our entire food system at risk. And he’s going to come on and talk about how we are at serious risk of having a collapse in our food system system, at least partially because it happened during COVID a partial food collapse. And this is a looming crisis that’s waiting to happen. And he’s going to talk about all the different aspects. Immigration is one, and he’s going to tell you why that’s a problem.

It’s really sad that we are even looking at having to decide between shutting our borders down, protecting our situation, and needing these immigrants for farming. And it’s just a reality. Everyone knows it. And people get angry and they say that the workers in country can do the farming. Well, they aren’t. And they aren’t stepping up to the plate. And the quality workers that they need, that are reliable are not coming from the American people. And maybe if we had a depression, maybe they would maybe come from the people, but as it is now, they aren’t and they’re not trained and all there.

It’s a crisis waiting to happen. And we already saw part of, part of that during COVID He’s going to share that with you today. And I hope you absorb this and with your Congress member and tell them this is they need to get their act together and pay attention to this industry because our entire our lives depend on it. There could seriously be millions of people dying like the Great Depression. It could be more serious than back then because back then there was a lot of family farms. We had a better security blanket back then. Okay, I don’t want to freak everybody out, but it’s one of those things that we, we have to take seriously.

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And there’s a concern with the workforce being exported in this immigrant, you know, whatever we’re doing roundup, I don’t know how to say it. We have serious issues with immigration. Right? I mean, open border and all these things. But there’s this long standing understanding across the entire government on both sides of how what we need from a farming, agricultural standpoint when it comes to immigrants. Can you talk about what that reality is? And then I want to dive into how these new immigration policies are creating some havoc. Yeah, absolutely. So I grew up on a small family farm in southern Wisconsin and we didn’t have immigrant labor on our farm, which my dad is still farming, my sister’s working to take over.

But we were surrounded by seeing farms of all kinds of different sizes and types that do have immigrant labor. Often it is the larger farms in places like California that have a lot of hand picked vegetables. But it’s also dairy farms and it can be in some cases medium, in some cases smaller farms too that are having to utilize immigrant labor. And so this is a perfect example to your exact point of the farms in this country kind of being caught in the middle of some cross cutting wins. You know, there are a lot of people from rural America, a lot of people from farm country who, you know, take very seriously having our border secured and many of those kinds of things.

They also have to have a workforce that will do the work and that is affordable and those kinds of things. And in many cases, the farms don’t have a way of knowing if the person that has worked for them has a legal status or not. And so it’s, it’s one of those. Wait a minute, why don’t they have the. Before you continue. Why do they not know? Is it because they. The fake papers? Yeah, totally. It can, because there’s a whole. Right. Because there’s a whole industry around making sure that this stuff can be concealed. And that’s, that’s not, I mean, honestly, that’s not the fault of farmers.

And really the immigrant families are trying to figure out a way to do what they need to do, right? That’s right, absolutely. Industry that serves to kind of ask this, you know, but those aren’t the people that we really should be. There should be a process. If this is the labor that we need, the people in our country aren’t willing to do it, which I want you to address that. And those are higher quality workers willing to do the kind of labor that they need. Shouldn’t the government have a process for that? Yeah, absolutely. And I think that’s where a lot of farmers come down.

They say, hey, we want a legal process. We want to have a secure border. We need to have workers. And we just need a more robust program that can allow the kinds of people who want to come here and work hard and, you know, get a hand up and progress and you know, kind of the American dream type stuff. Farmers are all for that. There is some talk about, you know, to what degree can deportations be focused around criminal activity and things like that. And I think we’re all waiting to see, you know, how that shakes out.

But what you just stated is exactly where the farmer is at. And you’re so right about that question of like, you know, why is it that farms, you know, require this labor and all that. That’s, it’s deeply ingrained in the market and in the economy. That they’re operating in, and people get upset and say they’re taking our jobs. But in this. This situation, that’s not really true, is it? Because Americans who try to hire workers like this, they simply cannot get the quality at what we need it to be for the price to provide the food that our country needs.

Yeah, that’s very, very true. And it depends on the type of farm in terms of the exact issue that they’re facing. But in general, some of this relates back to the depressed economic situation that farms are in. So a lot of the work that is being done by immigrant labor is also being done by those farm families. Especially where I’m from, where you’ve got medium and smaller farms, you’ll have a farmer, maybe a son or daughter work in the farm, and then they need an additional hired hand or two to help with milking, and these folks are doing the work together.

So you got farmers who are working really hard with their own sweat of their brow and got some immigrant labor, and they can’t find reliable labor from, you know, sources in this country without having some sort of immigrant source of labor. And there’s reasons for that. One, it’s. It’s really hard work, and some people don’t want to do it. But also, farms have such dim economic prospects. The margins are so tight for our farms. It has been a trend of disappearing farms for so long that the economic situation is really kind of dire. And so these farmers who are hiring labor, they.

They’d love to be able to pay more, whether it’s to immigrant labor or whether American born there, but they’d love to be able to pay more, but they can’t because of the way that our country has really, our economic system has left so many family farmers behind. And so things are very, very tight. And that adds to the issue. Not only do you have a lot of immigrant labor, you know, performing picking of vegetables and things like that, but you’ve just got a lot of farms that are in that tough economic situation where it’s the only thing available to them because of the wage level they can afford.

Well, and I want to talk about that a little bit more, what the reality is. But I know that back when this is like 20 years ago, when I was looking at it because I was doing some manufacturing myself, that there were some industries that you could pay your workers 0 and still not be competitive in the manufacturing realm. And it was so dire, and so people simply couldn’t compete. And that’s the kind of situation we’re in. But it’s a bigger issue here because this is our food supply. So we’ve had massive inflation in food. What kind of inflation pressure is this putting on our food supply? Yeah, it really adds to it.

And you’re absolutely right to ask about inflation because the reality is that food prices were going up because of inflation, but they were also going up faster than the rate of inflation because of all kinds of other challenges farming faces. We have a really vulnerable supply chain in this country. We saw it during COVID We see it at other times too where it’s easy for that supply chain to get disrupted. So those food prices will spike even further than inflation because of this issue. That ties back in part to the disappearance of our farms. And so it’s really compounded.

And so if you go and say that workforce isn’t available anymore, you’ve got farms that aren’t going to have a way to make ends meet that’ll go under. You have other farms that let’s say they can find a way to get someone to, to do the work, they’re probably going to have to pay more and they might go under because of that. Or it can contribute toward yet higher prices, you know. And so this workforce issue really hits a very difficult thing in it, to your point, affects the price of our food. And there’s so many other issues that tie back to the difficult farming economic circumstances and our dinner table.

But price is the one that hits people right away. Well, are there policies pretty much in place to favor the large farms and put these smaller farms out of business? I mean, are we talking about some? I mean, I don’t want to get into conspiratorial stuff, but sometimes there’s truth to that. And I know because I am accused of being a conspiracy theorist, although everything I’ve talked about is proven out to be true. It’s like, come on guys. So in this case, is there an exerted effort to really favor the large guys? That has definitely been the outcome of a lot of government policy by both parties for decades now.

And whether it is intended or not, whether it’s stated or unstated, we see it happen over and over and over again. A perfect example in the book we talk about. What we do with the book is we’ve hidden areas of history that have driven the disappearance of this, of our farms with my family’s story. And one of the parts that we talk about is the farm crisis in the 1980s. And at that time the government was encouraging farmers to take out debt, government backed debt that Whether you agree with that program or not, what they were doing is they were saying, hey, we need you to get bigger.

We need you to produce more. And there was a. Literally, this debt was pushing sort of a get big or get out kind of mentality. It’s one of many ways that government policy has encouraged farmers to get bigger. Now, within a few years of that, they raised interest rates because we had to tame inflation at that time, just like we were doing the last couple years. Right? Your listeners understand that very well. When you tame inflation by raising interest rates, you also make debt more expensive. So whether you agree or disagree with the government debt, whether you agree or disagree with how to control inflation, when you do those two things together, what you’re doing is you’re encouraging farmers to take out the debt the middle of the snap of a finger.

You’re making it unaffordable for them because you’re increasing the cost of that debt. And so the only ones that are able to perform and make a living at this are these large agricultural farms. And it’s, it’s putting, it’s centralizing our farming. And what kind of risk is. Does that put on us? You’re absolutely right. I always say, you know, look, all the farmers of different sizes, they’re all responding to a system that we have. It’s a systemic thing, right? The big farms are getting bigger, trying to survive. The small farms are either failing to survive or trying to find another way.

And here’s what happens. We have most of our food that is created by the largest farms, and we have a lot of small farms that have somehow survived this. But what they’re doing is they’re working multiple jobs and the farm is supplement income on the side. And they’re not going to. Each year we lose more of them. And so we’re just continuing to centralize and centralize. When that happens, that is not only happening in farming, but in agribusiness in the food industry. All these industries are trying to keep up with the rest of the American economy that is often dominated by large players, right? So when you have that happen on a systemic level, here’s what happens during COVID with bird flu, whenever you have something that could disrupt somewhere that our food is being produced or transported or any of that, when it’s really big players like that, it’s really easy for it to affect our food supply.

So during COVID if, and this is what happened, if you had one great big distribution center go down either because of COVID or because of the government’s reaction to Covid it affected the supply in a huge way. That’s why eggs are so expensive right now. Yes, bird flu caused it, but the bird flu issue is worse than it would otherwise be because it is affecting large facilities, large, you know, all throughout the supply chain. When, when something big goes down, it affects the supply in an outsized way that it wouldn’t if you had small farms selling eggs and other food to people through all kinds of different distribution channels.

Well, and this is where the conspiracy theory comes in, right? That there is, and we saw it in Europe, these energy policies that are looking like they’re purposely putting these small businesses, these small farms out of business in favor of these large conglomerate and it ends up putting the control of our livelihoods into small hands. And people are nervous about that. Because you control people by controlling food. Yeah, and sometimes it’s stated, you know, I mean during the Great Depression within the institute, a lot of government intervention, I mean there are certainly programs that supported and saved farms at that time.

Whether you agree with that kind of a tactic or not, it, you know, there’s times that money went to farms that helped help them. But the reality is also that those policies were designed to really help the bigger farms. Why? Because they were trying to produce enough food to feed people in the Depression. And when you get later on, you know, when we had in the 1970s, back when we were encouraging that government debt, you know, there was an encouragement saying hey, you know, plant fence row to fence row, get bigger or get out. That that was the state of policy of the government.

Other times it isn’t stated, but it’s still there, it’s still happening. And the reason is, you know, they’re, they’re trying to just, you know, emphasize production over everything else. And here’s the problem. It led to cheaper food for a while, but we were short sighted and we didn’t realize that when you eliminate small businesses, whether it’s family farms or small businesses all across industries and you eliminate them and you just have a few hands doing something, at some point that industry becomes vulnerable. Right. It doesn’t have resiliency, doesn’t have economic diversity. The price isn’t going to be better after a while either.

There’s diminishing returns on that, you know, and so that’s what we’re seeing now. We’re seeing food through the roof. Well, and also doesn’t anytime there isn’t competition. Now you have this, the spiral down of food quality that we’re dealing with and the soils are being Depleted. The food does not have the nutrition value that we used to have. And it all comes down to the fact that there’s. They don’t have competition. Yep, yep. And the farmers, I mean, here’s the amazing thing. People are shocked by this couple stats that I learned as we were investigating the situation.

45,000 farms per year on average is what we’ve been losing for a century. So 45,000 a year for the past century. That’s 70% of our farms. So it’s been. It’s been devastating. Yeah. And that is a hollowing out of rural America. Places like where I’m from that affects every American dinner table. To your point. Here’s the other incredible thing, though. There’s still nearly 2 million farms left, and 88% of them are small farms. And the reason for that is you got a lot of small farms are being operated by people who are working multiple jobs. So they’re pulling a factory ship, pouring concrete and operating a farm, that kind of thing.

And when you have that situation, you got people who are just holding on by their fingernails. And if we could find a way for those farms to be growing entrepreneurial ventures again, they could accomplish a lot for this country. They are supplying some of our food. They could supply much more of our food, many more choices. But we need to have not only the farmer, the little guy able to do that. We have to really reform how our whole system works in many ways in order for that to be possible. Well, because the quality of the food is so poor.

Right. I mean, I’ve heard that carrots back when I was little had 11 times the nutritional value than they do today. Yeah. You know, the food that we have is now so highly processed and that kind of thing. And that’s the direction that our. That our economy went, is we were trying to just produce, produce, produce as much as possible. And again, the. The returns on producing that much have kind of begun to wait. We don’t see that it’s necessarily keeping things that much more affordable than buying at your local farmer’s market. So let’s find a way to have farms have new entrepreneur opportunity, especially at a time when people care more than ever about where their food comes from.

You know, people want to know what it is they’re putting in their bodies. They want higher quality than what we have now because every. People are becoming aware that it’s crap. And compared to what it should be now, there is a concerted effort to control the seeds. Right. And that you have to pay for seeds every year. How much has that affected the value proposition where farmers no longer can just generate their own seeds, they have to actually buy it from, you know, it was Monsanto, now it’s Bear, I think, and other companies. Yeah. You know, all of these things that.

There was advancement in science, advancement in economics, and advancements that made it possible for, you know, more people to be able to do other things in our economy. Right. It allowed us to be able to produce the food we needed with, you know, farmers being able to take on more acreage, more animals, fewer people breaking their backs to it at some point. That’s. That’s a good thing. That was advancement so that we’re not all growing our own food, although those who want to. It’s a great thing, but that was economic advancement. But it reaches a point where it.

It tips past, you know, and the challenge that we have is, you know, also for. For a lot of these other larger companies, I always say it’s in their interest to find ways to work with farmers of all sizes and to make things more economically flexible for everybody. Because, you know, if you have most of the seed in this country boiled down to a few different strains that only a few folks can develop and control, what if a pest suddenly that can overcome that hits, you know, some. Some invasive thing? We don’t know what can happen.

And so there’s vulnerability when we have things too limited. Whatever the size of the company, I always like to compare it to, like a rope. When you have a whole bunch of strings on a rope, it’s really strong. That’s what makes it strong is, you know, the number of strings. When you only have a couple, it’s really weak. Yep. I mean, that’s really what we’re talking about. That’s the difference between centralization and decentralized centralization. I’m really about decentralizing. And that’s what our country was founded on. And it was so strong because of that innovation and all this stuff.

So what do you think is the reality that we’re looking at here with. I mean, people are struggling to feed themselves and their families. Now, what are we looking at here? I mean, we have big problems with immigration. Right. I mean, we have to close our borders and deal with the human trafficking, deal with this. This surge of potential problems in our. You know, it’s not potential. It is problems of fentanyl that everything else. How do we deal with that and not put our entire food system at risk? Well, this is where the attention should train on Washington.

And honestly, both parties for decades have failed to solve this problem. Why are we in this position where we have to choose between having a secure border and all the things that come with that and having our food supply be affordable? We shouldn’t have to make that choice. And it’s because the parties for decades have failed to solve, solve the immigration issue. You know, there, there’s a way there. They can roll up their sleeves and figure out how to come up with legislation that can secure the border and that can allow for the right types of legal immigration to, you know, you know, provide the workforce for our agriculture sector and other industries too.

But they haven’t done that. And so because there hasn’t been broad legislative action to do something about this, we’re left in this kind of like either or choice. And it makes no sense to anybody, it makes no sense to the farmer, makes no sense to most Americans to say, you know, why, why are we having to make this choice? It’s just the spot that we’re left in by Washington. Well, it seems that they’ve been so, you know, with USAID and all these corruption scandals going on and we’re seeing that so much of our money has been one big money laundering scheme and money going to all these other countries for bogus.

It’s, most of it’s just money laundering. Seems like their, their focus has been in all the wrong directions for lining their own pockets and, and not paying attention to what the needs of the American people are. And now it’s all catching up to them. It’s like this perfect storm of being incompetent and careless for so long. Yeah, we’ve had decades and decades of policymakers not understanding how things are impacted on the ground on a farm, let alone how it’s tied to our food supply. There’s very few policymakers who have spent time understanding those things. Well, and you know, I’m continually disillusioned by how ignorant and I’m sorry if you’re a congressperson and I’m saying this, maybe it’s not you, but you know, I, I’ve been doing conference presentations on the fact that Big Tech’s taking over, has taken over.

All the biggest market cap companies now are Big Tech and they’re also moving into farming and helping in that area as well as, as you know, but the vast majority of people in Congress have no idea about that industry. They’re still managing as if they’re 20 years in the past. I don’t even know if they’re managing 20 years in the past, to be honest. Once you Start looking at all the fraud and corruption going on. I don’t even know if they’re managing at all, to be honest. Yeah. I mean, so often our government is solving something from decades ago or looking backward, and government has a hard time looking forward.

Right. And that’s why the private sector is more innovative, more nimble. We do need, you know, I’ve been talking about, like, we need a family farming moonshot in this country. We need to focus all of our policies, we need to get both parties to focus on how can we make sure we understand what’s going on to our farms on the ground and how that affects our food supply. There’s no question that that has not been the focus of our government for a very long time. So if you had one thing that you really message that you really want to get out there, because I know you’re doing everything you can to get this out there, I know it’s urgent.

And what’s urgent for all of us, and you are kind of taking that call right now. What is it that you want people to know? The thing that I want people to know is that the resilience of the American farm family is something that we can still leverage if we act now. So if we keep losing farms at a rate of 45,000 a year, we’ll lose most of our family farms within the next generation, within the next 40 years. It has waxed and waned, but we’ve never really addressed and truly stopped or slowed in a meaningful way that trend.

So we need to do something about it. But when I think about that resilience, you know, I think about my dad. We tell the story in the book of my dad in the 1950s. He was eight years old when his dad, my grandpa, slipped off a corn crib, broke his back. And he did get back up on his feet eventually. But my dad, at the age of 8, started doing the work of a grown man. And he’s been farming ever since, more than 60 years, since that time. And he loves it. You know, it’s down in his blood and his bones.

I mean, I guarantee you right now he’s in the back of a tractor, or if he isn’t, that he wants to be. And he loves working to land and work close to his animals and that kind of thing. And so that kind of resilience is not unique to us. We have picked up our head and decided to tell our story. But that is the farm. That is the nearly 2 million farm families that still are operating small farms in this country. And it includes many of the families that had to have their farms get bigger too.

I mean, you know, there are resilient, hardworking people that want to feed this country. So they’re still there. Even though we haven’t made this work economically for them. Imagine what we did. If the economics worked, imagine what they could accomplish for us. How do you make the economics work? I mean, maybe that’s the problem. They just don’t know what to do. There’s, there’s a couple big structural things that we need to do to change. The first is we need a research and development revolution in this country. And I know, you know, a lot about how technology intersects with our economy.

What we haven’t had for a very long time is what’s called scale neutral technology, where it can work for not only large farms, but also medium and small size farms. It could be practical, both applicable and affordable for those smaller farms. That’s something we drifted away from the 20th century. We need to bring that back and we need to have research and development focused on how to do that. Because you got perfectly competitive, good, efficient, hard working farms that you know, are producing something people want, but they’re being left behind by technology that only works for some farms of a certain size.

We also need to make sure that our markets are operating properly. So you talk about having small business and having, you know, many decentralized. We need to make sure that across the American economy we have, have policies that make sure that we have, you know, fair markets. And that’s true internationally too, with international trade. The third big thing is we need to focus around how to organize our farms around entrepreneurial opportunity. And that means farms being willing to make some change. When you’ve been clinging to a farm that you’ve been trying to keep survive for, you know, generation after generation, left behind as we have been, you tend to kind of cling to what you know.

We need farms to be willing to experiment with things and we need consumers to meet that experimentation with greater demand so more people buying their food based on what will help create entrepreneur opportunity for the farmer. So with R and D, with changes, policy changes, to make sure our markets are functioning in a competitive way and with people meeting that with greater demand, all those people who care about where their food comes from, we can change these things and we can have these nearly 2 million farm families go from working part time jobs and farming to working their farms full time again and producing the food that the American economy needs.

So are people reaching out to you? Are they, are you, are they Interested in solving these problems or does it have to get so bad before they’re actually going to start listening? Yeah, well, what was it that I think it was Winston Churchill said, you can always trust the Americans to do the right thing after they’ve tried everything else. I don’t know how far, you know, I don’t know how far along that we are, but I am hearing from a lot of people. I hear from farm families all across the country that have thoughts and ideas.

I hear from, I have heard from policymakers on both sides of the aisle that want to try to adjust certain elements of this that they think a policy idea could help with one part of the process or another. That’s becoming problematic for our farms to move into the next generation. So people are taking notice. But we need so much more. We need so much more because we’re undoing decades of mistakes at this point. Well, how at risk are we if there’s an economic recession which is looming? I mean, a really bad one, if the, if the dollars come back, the printing comes that back, there’s, there’s a geo, you know, the, a war with our financial world, you know, who’s going to be the dominant player.

And that’s the war that’s raging. And it’s not necessarily in the media. People aren’t seeing it. But I guarantee that’s going on behind the scenes. And our way of life is fundamentally at risk right now if that doesn’t get straightened out. Right. And I know that’s the Trump administration’s number one priority. I know it. I can, I would bet everything I own on this. Okay. And if things aren’t, and even if it does go in our favor, we could still have a seriously bumpy ride. My concern is that the food system could collapse and we would be dependent on the good natured farmers doing it just because it’s for the love of their country versus it being economically reasonable and feasible for them.

Are we looking at that kind of situation? Well, that’s the situation that many farmers are in now. Many farmers really, economically speaking, probably should sell the farm that they are working on the side of two or three other jobs. But they, they love it. They love the land. I mean, when a farm family sells their land, they’re not only losing in mom or dad’s job, but they’re losing their home, their community, their heritage. Right? So, you know, I mean, the reality is that what you’re talking about is absolutely true. And you know, anytime we have an economic shock in this country, farmers are hit In a unique way, and we lose more farms.

And we really just are getting that point where we can’t risk that. You know, we can’t guarantee every single farm, you know, and industry consolidation and different things. We’re always going to be. There’s natural forces that’s going to be some of that. Right. But we’ve made so many decisions that have exacerbated it that at this point, you know, again, we will lose most of our family farms the next 40 years if we continue to lose them in the pace that we did for the past century. I’m worried that there could be a collapse in the food system.

If we have a serious struggle in the financial world, even for a short time, because we have a lot of pain we have to go through to get things shored up, how likely is it that our food even partially could collapse? Yeah, I think it’s quite likely. We saw it, you know, kind of a. I would say a partial collapse. During COVID we are seeing, you know, continued shocks, I would say, you know, think about COVID like a forest fire. Think about bird flu, like a spot fire. It flared up in another spot. Right. Like, we’re seeing that whenever there’s a big challenge to our food system.

Our supply chain is so integrated and it’s so vulnerable. And so if we have another big economic shock like that, I mean, you know, the only thing about the COVID economic shock that was good was how short it was in terms of, like, it was that immediate burst, and then it let up. We had years and years of impacts from that. Look at what I mean. Food prices are still higher because of that. Right. So you get all the aftershocks. But if we were to have another crisis like that or a crisis that lasted longer, we will lose more of our farms, and we’re already losing them.

We can’t afford to lose more than we already are. Well, I know during COVID there were stories of single individuals or a couple individuals working together behind the scenes to not collapse the entire beef market or certain industries. They were not sleeping, and they were doing everything they can to save the food supply. I mean, they were heroes, those kinds of stories. I mean, we were lucky, basically, that there were a few people stepping up, and people have no idea that they were putting themselves in the middle of the crisis, saving the food supply. How likely? I mean, that’s like miracles, really, that was going on.

And we’re saying that the likelihood of that kind of scare is almost 100% and we will be dependent on more heroes. Like that. That. Yeah, that’s absolutely right. You know, and I think about, you know, I mean, every single farm family is doing their version of that. I think about. There was a hero in our family’s history during the 1980s farm crisis that we talked about. One of the reasons that our family farm made it through is because we didn’t have the kind of debt in the 1980s that flattened so many other farms. And that was a little bit through the good fortune of a.

That we had with a neighbor that we had. So my parents were married in 1976, and one of the stories we tell in the books, they had a drought that year and it was wiping out our crops. I wasn’t born yet. My mom and dad were just getting married, and they had to band together with neighbors. There was a local elderly neighbor that wasn’t farming as actively anymore, and he didn’t need everything on his fields. He made a deal with my dad where if my dad did the field work, he could have more than his share of the hay.

And that’s one of the ways that they were able to afford to feed their animals that year. If they hadn’t done that, if they hadn’t had that kindness from that neighborhood, if my dad hadn’t put in the extra hours to work his fields in addition to our own, they would have had to take out a whole bunch of debt to try to get through that drought year. They would have gone into the farm crisis with all that debt, the kind of debt that wiped out so many farms in the 1980s. So you have. I mean, think about that.

You have millions of farm families figuring stuff like that out, figuring a way to make it to the next year. To make it to the next year. And that’s, you know, I guess in a way, that is the sort of thing that makes me whole. You know, you talk about people who are heroes out there. I think people like my dad are heroes. I think the families that are out there trying to figure out a way to keep their going to the next generation, those are real heroes in this country. We have people trying to do it, and so let’s make some bigger changes that can actually help them do it, you know? Yeah.

Without getting to a point where there’s a centralized food system that is crappy. I mean, it’s going to destroy our health. It already has to a certain extent, and it’s really fragile now. The arrogance, though, is that they think that they can use it as. Maybe not everybody, but there are people that think that a centralized farming situation is, is better because they can control things. And what would you say to that? Well, I would say, you know, look. Look at any industry that has become too big to fail. You know, anytime you have an industry that has super big players at the top, I mean, you know, to think that we’re not headed in that direction, I mean, at the end of the day, look like if we lose most of our family farms in the next generation, the next 40 years, and we only have the biggest farms doing this, no matter how hard working those farms are, no matter how good operations they are, you don’t want to have.

I mean, how many farms do we need to feed this country? Is it 2 million? Is it 1 million? 50,000? 10? 5? You know, where does it stop? And the people who aren’t heating this, for one, we just have a lot of people who, they’re busy, they’re working their daily lives. They don’t think about where their food comes from because they’re trying to figure out where their money in their pocket’s going to come from. I get that part right. But for the leaders in our country and the people who are envisioning this to not stop and say, wait, we can’t have this continue forever.

I mean, too big to fail has never worked for any of us. You know, it’s ne. It’s never a good thing when you have an industry get to that level. And unless you are going to say at some point this stops, that’s where farming and our food economy will go. Like, think the loss of farms has been persistent for a century. And if we’re not talking about how we’re going to stop that or change that or slow that and how we’re going to make it possible for more farms of more sizes to be able to have an entrepreneurial go in this country, we’re going to get there and it doesn’t end well.

We saw that with banking in 2008. Yeah. And you know, we saw that in Covid. We had a collapse of the system that a couple people saved but partially was collapsed and we could be there really quick if they aren’t paying attention to it. Where can people learn more about this situation? Because they, they need to, they need to understand it. You have a book that’s out. Do you have a website too that people can go to? Yeah, absolutely. So Landrich Cash Poor is available on Amazon anywhere you buy books online. Also small independent bookstores all across the country.

My website is www.brian-risinger.com. brian B R I A N-R-E-I S I N G-E-R.com and we’ve got all kinds of information on there, not only about the book, but about other things that I’m writing and work that we’re doing to try to spread the word on this issue. And my hope is that by getting the word out and by sharing our families, you know, raw, honest story woven in with that issue, that maybe we can inspire people to get engaged and do something about it. Because it’s serious. I mean, it’s more serious. We’re seeing it in our health already.

We saw it during COVID We saw a partial collapse with this economic system looming that we could see, you know, depression. Millions of people died. We could see millions of people dying if we don’t get this short up. Yeah, yeah. It’s absolutely true. Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you so much, Brian, for joining the program. This is a really important issue, so thank you so much for sharing it with us today. Well, thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it. Experience the groundbreaking advancements of Lela’s quantum technology. Now backed by over 40 placebo controlled studies conducted by elite institutions and renowned universities worldwide.

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