(10/14/25) | SG Sits Down w/ John Michael Chambers @ Conversations of Consequence Show

➡ John Michael Chambers hosts a show called Conversations of Consequence where he discusses important current events. His guest, SG&ON, is a well-known figure in the media who has spent years studying various forms of warfare and intelligence. SG&ON began questioning the world around him as a teenager, particularly after the events of 9/11. His skepticism grew over time, leading him to research and expose the harmful practices of the food and drink industry.
➡ In the past decade, the speaker formed a deep bond with a mentor who taught him about cyberspace analysis, cryptography, and hidden communication. They often discussed corruption and symbolism, particularly in Washington D.C. and NATO west. After reconnecting in 2016, they analyzed the surprising Trump presidency and the emergence of the entity Q. The speaker continued to learn and grow, even after his mentor’s passing, and started an audio podcast series to share his insights. Despite challenges, he remains committed to his journey of understanding and interpretation.
➡ The government shutdown is seen as a positive move, reducing the size of the federal government, which is what many American citizens want. This is seen as a strategic move by patriotic forces, with the Democratic Party taking the blame. The shutdown is viewed as a way to streamline operations and balance the budget. The relationship between President Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu is complex, with the state of Israel potentially losing out in peace arrangements, but providing a framework for Arab states to resist expansion.
➡ The text discusses the complex global political landscape, focusing on the power dynamics in the Middle East and China. It suggests that peace agreements are designed to expose and handle corrupt entities, with a particular focus on Israel. The text also explores the idea of ‘saving Israel for last’ in terms of purging corruption, suggesting it could refer to a significant change or event. Lastly, it discusses the leadership of President Trump, President Xi, and President Putin, suggesting they are enabling their citizens to reclaim power and are working to eliminate global corruption.
➡ The text discusses China’s current economic and military strategies, suggesting that China is intentionally reducing its global economic power. It also discusses the rising value of tangible assets like silver and gold due to the rebalancing of a financial system heavily dependent on debt. The text suggests that this rebalancing will continue to increase the value of tangible assets. Lastly, it hints at future discussions on justice, military tribunals, new banking systems, and the quantum financial system.
➡ The speaker predicts that by July 2026, the United States will experience a period of excitement and potential, similar to the anticipation felt in the days leading up to Christmas. This will be due to a resurgence of small business success and a balanced standard of living, which the speaker believes was always the intended state of the nation. The speaker also mentions an upcoming special report and a podcast project, and ends by discussing a series of topics related to the Guantanamo Bay detention camp, including its structure, legal proceedings, and potential expansion.
➡ This text discusses various topics including the status of terrorists since 9/11, how civilians end up in Gitmo, and the Global Defense War. It also mentions a potential new addition to a military panel, Sheila Holm, and a live show called Global Financial Reset. The show features various guests discussing topics like digital totalitarianism, economic changes, and the future of silver and cryptocurrency. The text ends with a reminder to stay vigilant and safe.

October 15, 2025 hello, I am John Michael Chambers and welcome back to Conversations of Consequence where twice a month I feature one of the the important voices of our times to weigh in on the incredible events that are unfolding before our very eyes in this global defense war as we fight to take back our country, restore our freedoms and enter into the golden age. And joining us here today for an engaging conversation is my special guest, SG&ON. While SG&ON has his own platform where he communicates on current events, he’s also a sought after guest in the new media Maga podcaster movement.

SG is a father, friend, son, child of God and patriot for we the people of all creeds worldwide. Having awakened in 2010 to the extent of the evil behind the processed food and drink industrial complex. He has spent the last 15 years immersed in the concepts of espionage warfare, cross domain insurgency, counterintelligence warfare, cyberspace analysis, signals intelligence, and much more. Between 2011 and 2013, he was actively involved in online DDoS attacks on certain well known commercial and government websites. And while his studies have been unofficial and extracurricular, they inform his lens of the unusual world we have today.

He’s an avid chess player and enjoys a great barbecue. Some folks in the other side of the aisle don’t care for barbecues, but I certainly enjoy one. Welcome back, welcome back and welcome first time to Conversations of Consequence. Sgnon. Thank you for having me, John Michael. It’s good to be here. Thank you very much. All right, you know, we’ve got a short hour here and a lot to cover, but before we get into and to our audience, we’re going to get into a lot of the critical and key issues that are unfolding practically on an hourly basis with sg, which is the crux of this broadcast.

But before we do sg, take us back to when you first started questioning the world in which we live. May have been as a child, may have been as a young adult, I don’t know. But take us back to when you first started looking around and saying what’s going on out there, when you started to notice that things are not quite making sense. Take us as far back as you choose. Let’s begin there. S.J. well, I appreciate that, John. And that’s a different kind of conversation than the one I typically have on broadcasts like this. I have to look at my own personal journey over the last 15 and a half, 16 years or so and really find myself astonishingly humbled in many regards as far as questioning things and how I developed into my concepts of the world and how I know, view and perceive and interact with the world.

I think all of us could trace that back to right around our pre adolescent adolescent phase. I grew up in a rural middle American family. We were lower to medium middle class, right there in the middle of the road. Both working parents, one with a college degree, one without, one with military service, one without military service is found on both sides of my family tree, more heavily so on my maternal side. And so I grew up respecting the flag, understanding the importance of the land, understanding the importance of your fellow man and woman, understanding that there is in fact a divinity, a God that underpins and oversees and makes reality and the creative life journey that we all get to go up on possible.

And so I began questioning the government, of course, right around the time that I was about 12, 13 years old when we saw the events of 9, 11, 2001, and almost reflexively after that, immediately after that, we saw this complete transformation of American society. And it was not for the better. It was an evisceration, an abomination, if you will, against our Constitution for the Republic. It made irrelevant a number of the Bill of Rights prohibitions that were enshrined in the first 10amendments to the Constitution, especially that surrounding illegal search and seizure and warrantless surveillance and things of that nature.

And as I grew through my adolescent period and then eventually went off to college and did the American collegiate thing, I began to be more pessimistic isn’t really the right word. More skeptical is probably the better way to look at it. About official pulpits of power. I noticed even as young as 18, 19 years old, that the mantras that would typically come from the same sorts of pulpits and seats of influence across both academia and the professional workplace that I was being exposed to all sounded really very much the same when they were pressed ideologically or when I would insist on more information or, you know, I even made the claim a couple of times during college classes that the textbook may have in fact gotten it wrong.

And I was actually laughed at and ridiculed in one of those classes, as you might expect, because of course, the brainwashing and the mind control, which is military grade and goes back a number of decades here in the United States of America, was in full warp and display about the time that I was in college, when the Iraq war had been really going significantly for a number of years now, or a number of years at that time, we had expanded the campaigns into Afghanistan under the Hussein Obama administration. And so this compelled me sort of in this general lens of not really appreciating or not not really wanting to appreciate, I should say, the type of society that we had created.

I was young at the time. I didn’t fully understand what exactly was wrong, but I could very much sense that something was amiss and that we were far off the beaten path with respect to liberty. Freedom and the pursuit of happiness in the United States was supposed to be all about. And then my personal awakening journey actually followed right along in those in those years. It was right about 19, I think I was maybe 19 and a half years old, excuse me, when I was doing a research design project for a college class. I forget the exact class, but it was a nutrition based project and we had been given a number of different prompts that we were able to pursue in research for that class.

And one of the prompts that I had chosen was the nutritional effects of soft drinks on cellular anatomy and the ability of the cellular body to function appropriately. Because all of us are a compilation, right? An accumulation of the trillions of different cells that make up our physical being. And those cells each in and of their own, right? They’re all individualized worlds that have to work together symbiotically. And so in the research for that project I was led to a number of different sources. One of the sources I was led to was actually the NIH website.

And there were a number of articles about different flavor additives and sweeteners and the various ingredient breakdowns that went into things like soft drinks and PepsiCo and Coca Cola and things of that nature. And one of those articles referenced something called HEK293. It was an article that was a study about various food additive manufacturers and their integration with the broader food and beverage landscape. And one of the additive manufacturers referenced in this article was Sinemyx. S E N O M Y X. It’s a company that’s now formerly it was purchased by a Swiss perfume giant, I believe in 2017 and the entire operation was absorbed and not and discontinued.

So they’re no longer in business. And as far as I know, they don’t produce the additive that they used to produce, which was HEK293. Now HEK293 according to a number of different articles, again taken right from the NIH website when I was approaching 20 years old as a collegiate student. Stands for human embryonic kidney 293. And it was an additive that was being used in all of the beverage products that were produced by Coca Cola and most of the beverage products that were produced by PepsiCo at the time that I was doing the research for this project.

And it did not take very long for me to realize that the only way that you could meet the supply and demand ratios for that type of an industrial base and that type of an operation worldwide with this particular additive was to utilize the abortion industry inside the United States as a sourcing operation, essentially so going and generating the raw materials, which then gets bio collected and adjusted and engineered and placed into these additives, which are then placed into these products. And so I went on a dark night of the soul as a result of that.

I realized that, you know, essentially we were all tantamount to forced cannibals. We had no idea that that was going on, but we were literally consuming fragmented human DNA every time we drank a PepsiCo product or a Coca Cola product again at the time, back in those days. And so this sent me on a pretty significant spiritual journey. I ended up leaving school, I attempted to join the US military, Was not successful overall in that process, but I made a wonderful relationship, actually a couple of relationships, but a really profound one in particular that followed me throughout the rest of my 2018’s decade.

Once the period of my attempt to service was concluded and I was back in the civilian life doing the working man thing and the day job thing, I was able to keep in touch with a gentleman that later became my mentor. I learned a great deal from this person about cyberspace analysis, about cryptography, about hidden communication and symbolism, espionage warfare. And we used to talk very frequently about the evil that underpinned the true corruption system out there in the world. We would have conversations pretty regularly throughout the early 2000 teens about how the corruption in Washington D.C.

for example, is not insular, about how the corruption across the entirety of the NATO west is actually underpinned by an occult exealotry. We talked a great deal about symbolism and all of the Luciferian symbolism that could be seen on full display. And this was during a time where it was really truly dangerous to publicly proclaim these types of things to go out and attempt to bring these to the masses, because one, you would be completely shut down and made out to be a kook. And if you had any effectiveness at all, even despite that, then you would risk escalating responses like assassination, accidents, things of that nature.

And so as I was attempting to do the working man thing and the good middle class American thing, like what I had grown up understanding was the way to operate and to proceed forward, I was having these types of conversations with my mentor, and many, many other conversations, too. And we sort of drifted apart over the period of that decade, but reconnected in the aftermath of Trump’s first victory in 2016. Both of us were completely astonished, actually, that that particular event was allowed to happen and that it happened in the way that it did. Of course, we look back now as awakened patriots.

We understand that that was very much part of an intentional design to right the boat and to stop this Luciferian control complex. And so we had a number of different conversations, my late mentor and I, between 2017 and 2020, leading up to the global pandemic event, where we discussed this entity called Q, which came online in late 2017. I was a few months late to that party in spring summertime of 2018. And what we noticed in particular, and what my mentor highlighted to me in a pretty profound way, was that everything we were seeing as a result of this new Trump presidency that had come out again, flying in the face of everyone’s expectations, was generational in the making.

We were seeing rhetoric that had not come from a US Politician in at least a half century, in many cases, rhetoric that had never come from a US Politician. We had this nebulous entity in the background, going online, posting things that were then coming to pass within hours, in some cases, within days, in other cases. Lots of very profound photographic evidence about proximity to Air Force One, the Oval Office, overseas, traveling with the President or with an entourage tying back to the president. And so that led my growth and my journey in this particular arena, even all that much more, because I began to take up some of my old interests with a renewed vigor.

I went back and studied a lot of my basic counterintelligence concepts. I went back and looked at insurgencies and historic examples of those types of things and how insurgencies do not have to be militarized to be highly effective. And just all the different extracurricular education that you referenced just a moment ago, I wanted to double down on and really make sure that I had expanded on, because I could tell that this was going to go somewhere significant. I was not prepared for what happened in 2020. I have to say that was a bit of a surprise for both my mentor and myself.

We went through that period of time, I think the entirety of planet Earth received one wallop of a lesson with that particular event. And so here we are. Now, of course, five years later, my late mentor has passed on, God rest his soul. And I’m continuing to try to carry that torch of analysis and understanding and interpretation. And I was brought onto the scene actually through an interesting conversation that came up with this Gentleman in early 2022 as I watched the morale of what I would characterize as the MAGA movement, the Patriot movement, the we the People movement across the United States and across the Western world really starting to take a dip.

The response to the Biden Manchurian installation, the extreme uptick and the pressure from the basic community life perspective, the cost of goods, the cost of services, the cost of living, all of these things, you know, really overbalancing themselves in a negative way. And I was actually. My mentor had called me one afternoon and had said, hey, you know, you’re someone that doesn’t really get too emotionally involved even when the topic is bad. You sort of have a robotic or mechanical delivery. And that could be something that people would really want to hear because you actually have a pretty good mastery on a lot of the irregular or unconventional lenses that are at play here.

And Q had told us all through the first Trump presidency that irregular unconventional warfare, or also called game theory, was being used as essentially a tactic, an overall tactic against this Luciferian control construct, because that control construct had utilized that exact tactic against the all of. Against all of humanity for a number of hundreds of years with devastating effectiveness. And so I decided to pray about it a little bit and to really reflect and meditate on it. And I did that. And I eventually decided not to come out on video. I came out and began producing an audio podcast series.

It’s called the QNews Patriot. People can go and find it on Rumble. And I’ve got a presence on Truth, Social X and Telegram now to sort of connect with individuals and patriots out there. But the whole purpose of that audiocast series, that audio podcast series was to help highlight to people the fact that this is a very predictable period of time. But in order to predict it to any degree, and we’re not talking about hard and fast predictions down to dates and events, talking about the overall essence of where these events are going to go, the environment that these events are going to create worldwide is very predictable.

When we look at the model all throughout history and when it’s been tried and when it’s succeeded versus when it has failed. And so I wanted to come online and remind Patriots that this journey is much more than just a four year election. This is not just about US politics. This is not just about who wins the social debate at the ballot box. This is about control of currency. This is about control of financial interactions worldwide. This is about control of our governments. True actual control of our governments, not this shadow lobbying power that we see on full display across the entirety of the corporate controlled Congress here in the United States.

And it’s about ending a very deep, very dark and very old zealotrous way of life, a religious way of life, for lack of a better characterization, that relies primarily on, on idolatry and demonism as its basis for operation and its basis for belief systems. So I know that’s sort of a very long answer to your question. That’s me in a NutShell. And it’s 2025 and we continue to go strong. Well, thank you very much for sharing that journey with us. Probably insightful for a lot of folks that have been following you that may not be fully aware of what brought you to, what got you to where you are today.

And I have a few comments. Just a quick question. You mentioned only if you care to share to what extent, if at all. You mentioned a potential move that you were making to enter into the military and that did not pan out. Do you care to comment? Because I’m sure some of our audience is going to be asking about that and if not, it’s a private matter. That’s perfectly understood. Oh, absolutely. I don’t mind to comment at all. I had a, I had attempted to go and join the services as a communications specialist back in the day.

I’d rather not say what service just to preserve that anonymity out there for the folks out there. But I had, I had gone with the intent to join as a communication specialist primarily at a forward deployed or in a forward deployed fashion. I was not able to fully complete the entirety of the 18 month IADT period because of a physical injury. Got it. Well, thank you for sharing that with us. And you know, you stated a back in college textbooks have gotten it all wrong. Well, people like yourself and other important voices of our times are getting the records straight now and from the podcaster world that we’ve put ourselves out there as digital soldiers.

So thank you for, for setting the textbooks right in your own way through all these interviews. I want to ask you, well, let’s just jump into this right now. The shutdown, that’s where we are today at the time of this recording. We’re in the government shutdown. What’s really going on here? Peel the curtain back a little bit. Besides the Schumer versus Trump narrative, what’s happening? Well, it’s beautiful actually, when we really appreciate, you know, the broader stroke here because the furloughs that come as a result of this shutdown period are not only lawful and constitutional, but, but they’re final.

This is not simply a layoff with an intent to return to duty. This is a reduction of force. And it’s happening across the entirety of the government. We’re literally shrinking the federal government right before our very eyes. This is what patriots have voted for time and time again. This is what a lot of the broader we the people community inside the United States wants to see. We don’t like Big Brother. We don’t like this over bloated 87,000 IRS agent style government situation. We don’t like paying, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars a year just to fund the salaries and the payroll, not even the pork, but just the salaries and the payroll of all of the various bloated government agencies across the entirety of the nation.

And so what we’re seeing right now is an absolute brilliant maneuver in what I would call 5th, 6th, 7th, 7th dimension warfare. When we talk about taking the fight to the enemy in a profoundly effective way, and I referenced that just a moment ago, we have allowed, for lack of a better term, the Democrat Party in this instance to be the scapegoats, to be the blame takers for a much broader maneuver that I believe has been orchestrated by patriotic forces. And I believe also that President Trump, as well as those in his orbit that are truly on the side of we the people have been hoping that we would have this type of an opportunity right around this particular point in the year.

Because we’re coming into the holidays, people are very hyper aware of what’s happening in the governmental sector, the financial sector. It’s going to affect their paychecks, checks and their next several months intentions and behavioral habits out there, shopping habits, economic habits coming up over the next 12 to 16 weeks. So this is a truly brilliant maneuver because you have that party now taking the entirety of the public scrutiny, the entirety of the public displeasure. But we have real actionable and positive results that are happening on behalf of and in the service of the broader majority, the silent majority of we the people, Main Street America, that just wants to go to work, create the family homestead of their dreams, be allowed to pursue happiness to the extent that they wish to, and, you know, besides that, to just be left alone as long as they cause no harm, willful harm to their fellow man or woman.

And that group is actually the real winner here. When we talk about what’s happening with the shutdown, nobody on the political sides, whether it’s right, left, independent, Sanders supporters, Musk supporters, whatever you Characterize yourself as RFK supporters. No one on the political gambit or on the political gauntlet, excuse me, really wins at the end of the day with this, because it’s an untenable issue when we start talking about affecting the nation on the side of monetary policy and economic policy. But at the same time, if we’re able to take the politics out of the equation and look at it from an average American’s point of view, we are witnessing a business entity reduce its force and streamline its internal operations to produce a more balanced budget book, to produce a cleaner result, to produce a more transparent and authentic creative process from start to finish, from R and D all the way to the end product.

That’s exactly the period of time that we’re living through right now. And the shutdown creates the legal conditions necessary to do that. John, at absolute light speed. Excellent. That takes us to Israel. Save Israel for last. Probably a direct quote, if not a close paraphrase from the cue boards back in the day. I’m not quite sure we’re at last, but in my opinion, it seems we’re pretty darn close. But let’s talk about Israel, the recent turn of events concerning President Trump just in Israel yesterday, and Hamas, the. The whole situation there. What do you make of the.

Of that? And more importantly, what do you make of the true relationship between President Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu? Well, I think we need look no further than the conduct from Benjamin Netanyahu’s recent visit to the Oval Office just a couple of weeks ago in the aftermath of the Israeli bombing of the Qatari capital city Doha, without apparently any advance notice provided to Washington D.C. or the Qataris. I think that interaction in the Oval Office is beautifully encapsulative of what that relationship truly really is. You know, I’ve heard a lot of people have a lot of different grievances, and in some cases, I think justifiably so, about how it looks when we look at US Policy and US Actions on the international stage, being really the only major power to align ourselves with Tel Aviv on certain key issues.

And yet at the same time, we have a president that made the head of state, the current active head of state of a foreign power, call the head of state of another foreign power on live television, on the phone and apologize for blowing up his house, much like you would have a, you know, a perturbed father marching their teenage son up the road to apologize to the neighbor for ruining his lawn. And so as we look at the relationship between Netanyahu and Trump, as we look at what’s happening worldwide centered around this relationship, as we look at the, you know, what actually has been taking place underground in the Middle east, going all of the way back to the very beginning of this conflict between the IDF and Hamas, or this most recent beginning of it in October of 2023, it becomes very clear to me that this is a much deeper, much more multifaceted angle here that we’re trying to work.

And if you looked at the peace arrangements that have been postulated and put forth for the entirety of the world, who is the biggest loser in those arrangements? It is, in fact, the state of Israel. It is a complete neutering, a complete cessation of the broader Greater Israel agenda. It provides the framework and the scaffolding necessary for the Arab states to resist any undue expansion in that region, while also preserving the right of the Tel Aviv state for the present time to resist any sort of aggressive maneuvers and actions coming from problematic elements that may still be within those Arab states.

And we should keep in mind that when we talk about all of these different nations, John, we’re simultaneously talking about two separate nations in each nation. When we talk about the government of Qatar, you have we the people, interested forces, humanity, interested forces, and you have globalist sellouts. When we talk about the government of Tehran or Damascus or Ankara or Cairo, we are. We’re dealing with the exact same fundamental dynamics operating inside each of those nation states as well. You have the culturally interested group, the patriotic forces, if you will. And then you have the forces that have sold themselves out to a globalist agenda, either through a ritual that they participated in, through a bribe that they took, through some sort of, you know, lewd activity that they were involved in that exists on some server, on some photo film or microfiche somewhere.

And so when we look at the entirety of the landscape, it makes very much a great deal of sense to me that we would approach the peace arrangement in the fashion that we have, because we are providing enough room, enough cheese, if you will, for any problematic rats to poke their little noses out of the shadows. And if there are no rats to be had, then the deal itself ends up being very, very tenable and manageable. And when we have these outside forces, like President Trump chairing this new Board of Peace, for example, it provides a guarantor of some kind to back up we the people, in the instance or in the event that we have some of these problematic actors begin to reveal themselves resisting the broader progress.

And I think we can count on that as we look at the entirety of the worldwide map here, the entirety of the topography, because we’ve seen that resistance in every fashion imaginable up to this point. And I think even in some ways that we didn’t really think was going to happen along in this process just over the last five years. And that resistance is that, again, it’s that Luciferian deep state complex. It’s that intelligence bastion that what I would call the shadow state community. Individuals that are lifers, that are generational inside these communities. You know, we see these types of arrangements sort of highlighted in thriller movies and suspense movies where there’s intelligence assets that have been, you know, have been familially connected and familially entrenched for a number of decades.

They own and control entire regions in the back. All of the local government actors report to them as though they’re some sort of mafia crime boss, and that that landscape does actually exist across the entirety of the world, not just the Middle East. And so this agreement and a number of these other peace agreements as well, provide enough cheese to draw out those rats that wish to do that agreement harm or to derail it in some fashion, but at the same time provide the teeth and the enforcement mechanisms necessary to go in and then handle those elements if and when they present themselves.

Well said. Thank you very much. Before we move on to China, just a quick question here on Q and Israel. That statement, save Israel for less. What do you make of that? And are we at last? Well, I think you might. On that particular note, we’re probably talking about the most pondered question or one of the most pondered phrases in the entirety of the 4,966 Q drops that have been put online. The drop in question references Israel being saved for last with respect to the purging and removal of their entrenched, corrupt entities, whatever you want to call those entities.

And the drop goes on to say, for a very specific reason, not mentioned even a single time. So as we look at the events that are happening now and how a great deal of this in the Middle east and worldwide is sort of fulcrum swinging, if you will, on what happens with the state of Israel, particularly the governing forces behind the state of Israel, not to be confused with the Jewish people, but the governing forces behind that particular nation state and their interactivity and their progress forward, the choices that they’re making day in and day out affecting that area of the world.

So saving Israel for last. I’ve heard many people talk about it from a financial aspect. I’ve heard many People talk about it from a potential military conflict aspect. I’ve seen still more talk about it from a potential, you know, implanted terrorist attack, tying back to that particular nation state, either in the Western world, in the United States, in one of the NATO alliance Asiatic nations. One of the things I think, and honestly, John, I don’t have an adequate answer overall to the question. I can only give my opinion on this, and I think my opinion would tie back to the concept of what Q tells us from a broader perspective.

Right. Double meanings, excuse me, do exist. And so if we’re saving something for last, is it not conceivable that we could be saving it for last because it may not exist in its current form going forward? There may be a new form to take here. We may see something like a reemergence of Judea and Samaria and Galilee into the world. Are we talking about being saved for last because of some reprehensible or morally abhorrent act that the entirety of the world comes to fully understand and appreciate, perhaps simultaneously, which sort of carries that momentum and carries that weight all the more? And that could be a number of different things.

You know, some of what I just named a moment ago, I’ve seen references to something called the Samson Option, which is a secret Israeli survival plan tying back to the government of Israel in the late 1960s, early 1970s, where they intended to get a hold of nuclear secrets, develop their own nuclear base, and then participate in essentially what amounted to a controlled arms exportation all around the world, with the option to detonate those types of devices or those types of weapons on demand as a means of holding nation states hostage. And so that’s called the Samson Option.

And that’s one of the things that I think could also tie back to the reference of saving Israel for last. I think the gravity of the statement is really more of the focal point that we should all dial in on, because the gravity is something that is sort of inarguable on its face. If something is being saved for last, it’s either the best or it’s the worst. It’s going to carry the most weight. It’s going to carry a great deal of memory quotient, if you will, going forward, it’s going to occupy a lot of the historic record because it is being saved for last in a sequence of events or a large series of events that has some sort of a conclusion or some sort of a transition phase, which I would argue we’ve not really truly crossed through yet, despite the fact that we are moving very rapidly ahead into this new world and that we are seeing the end of corruption and the end of crime here in the United States.

Granted, not as quickly as we would like to, but we’re dealing with a 50 plus year entrenched problem. And so with that gravitas tying back to that particular characterization, as I look at the state of Israel, I think to myself, whatever that means, it will be inarguable, it will be manifestly obvious to the broad collective of we the people out there. Both, both what I would characterize as the normies and what I would characterize as the really hardcore awake patriots. Because again, it is being saved for last in a broad transition and a broad movement to a new way of life and a new dynamic of doing things.

And so whatever that happens to be, I do not think that we will have any doubt, any question whatsoever that we have arrived at that point. Well said. Thank you. Yes. So I would go back to my initial statement that I think we’re almost there, but not yet and we will know. So let’s move on to China. There’s a lot to talk about there. We’ve got the tariffs, we have that big issue there. We have Xi with seemingly a heart attack and perhaps a second one, I’m not sure. Are the people rising up in China, what sort of dynamic is taking place place within their borders concerning the actual form of government which they’re under? Do you see any kind of a move swelling from the ground up there? And if so, is it being handled differently than, let’s say, Tanan Square many years ago? Anything you’d like to share about China and the relationship between Xi and President Trump? Well, I can say that from what my research has shown to me over the last several years, President Xi is most certainly doing what President Trump is doing.

But from a Chinese lens, President Trump is providing an avenue for the people to reclaim their power. And he is also being the agent of change in many regards, that is chastising both. Some of we the people out there are chapping, if you will, some of we the people out there, but also a great deal of effectiveness at removing or completely eviscerating and destroying those very corrupt elements of the government that have enslaved we the people in many cases without even our awareness. As we look at the level of brainwashing, just in the United States alone, for example, many Americans, many millions of Americans up until the last four or five years had absolutely no idea, no concept whatsoever, that they were living in a bureaucratic, turnkey, digital tyranny.

That was preparing to march them to the precipice of destruction. The same can be said about the Chinese population, which of course is much larger than the United States, but functions on similar levels of brainwashing and ideological loading and various media bias and things of that nature. And the intelligence community’s control inside of Beijing, inside of Shanghai, inside of Guangzhou and other very large Chinese metropolitan areas and regional areas has actually been much stronger and much more pronounced and aggressive than it has in the United States of America because of our Constitution, quite literally. And so as we look at the relationship between President Xi and President Trump, as we look at the dynamics between President Trump and President Putin, and then especially the axis between President Putin and President Xi, I don’t think there’s any question whatsoever that all three of these gentlemen are providing not only the conduit for their own people to reclaim their identity, to rise back into their confidence and into their cultural heritage and reclaim their own government power, but they are also providing the actionable steps, both politically and in many cases financially and militarily around the rest of the world to move the broader blob of corruption that exists at the supranation state level, the above the nation state level, and sort of this diplomatic immunity domain, what I would characterize as the UN adjacent international domain.

And so with President Xi and the Swiss banking control of the Chinese people for right around 100 years now, not quite 100 years, the involvement of the Mossad and the Maxwell family tying back to the Epstein family, also having direct ties with Mao, the fact that a Rothschild banker helped Mao write the Little Red Book, the, you know, the Mao’s Red Book. All of these things, I think give credence and context, very important context, to what President Xi in the current day and time may be up to. And when we look at the Chinese economic landscape and the Chinese militarized landscape, China is actually, for the first time in about a half century or so, really bucking the will of not just the west, but of the financial control levers inside the Western world, those, those banking levers, those governmental influence and blackmail levers, by militarizing itself and really developing out a full and powerful contentious world, you know, world class fighting force, and also destroying themselves economically to a degree.

And when I say to a degree, I say what I mean by that is, you know, when we look at the system and the need to erode that system out of control in some areas, much of your audience will, will connect with this idea of, you know, devaluing the fiat US Dollar. While it is painful for America, it provides a conduit, it provides an avenue to reintroduce true sound money, God’s money, back into the, into the equation at the international level. The same is, is true, however, in nation states internally as well. If there is a rapid forced erosion of a certain component of the economic sector, especially if that component is entirely debt driven, then what happens is the nation state itself is going to have to arrive at a point where a reintroduction or a reorientation of its internal economic behavior is going to be forced out into the public domain for choice and for adjudication and for implementation.

Because it’s the only way to prevent the country from going into a full on economic disaster or a full on collapse. And when a country as large as China with an industrial base that can handle a great deal of that load, I think what you’re seeing, if I may, and this is just my opinion, is a controlled and purposeful demolition of Chinese economic power worldwide. And that’s leaving the bag man, the Swiss bankers and the central bankers out of Western Europe. It’s leaving them holding this empty bag because they cannot reclaim what is currently being eviscerated and what they would characterize as sort of set on fire, if you will, inside the Asiatic mainland as a result of China’s actions.

So it’s an incredible dynamic situation. I think when we look at it from an 80,000 foot point of view, it really is about draining the swamp, not just in Washington D.C. but the entirety of the swamp that has gotten control of entire nations and entire cultures and really weaponized humanity against itself in a way that does not organically reflect how we, the people of different cultures and national identities, feel and think towards one another. Well, thank you. And in that analysis, I think we can see to an extent that Chairman Xi and Donald Trump, President Trump, are in fact working together against the sort of the globalist agenda.

And we’ve been talking about that and speculating upon that for many years. And to an extent, you just brought that home. And that takes us into the economy. I’ll throw a few things out there. Gold and silver going through the roof right now, both at all time, historical highs, including silver now at 52, almost $53. But we have something called backwardation, a massive, massive, unprecedented move that has just taken place, affecting the silver inventory and market. Why don’t I stop there and then I have another question or two about the economy. Are, are you able to discuss this recent event? What does backwardation mean? What is happening With London silver.

And how will that impact the price of silver? And I realize you’re not an economist, but your commentary, how will that impact the availability and price of silver? What do you know about this backwardation issue? Well, I’ll be perfectly honest. I know I’m not a financial advisor and I’m not terribly familiar with the concept of backwardation, but I’m familiar with the concept of supply and demand. And as we look at what’s happening out there in the world, one of the things that is sort of balancing itself, if you will, for lack of a better characterization, is this commodities market and the actual usage of physical real world resources relative to their collection and their output in the economic sense.

And so when you look at silver, just as an example, and this is just one of a dozen different commodities that would, that would fit underneath this umbrella, but silver in particular, it is one of the most used elements industrially. It is by far the most electrically conductive metal. It has a high atomic resilience to it, so it can be used for a very long time. And things like microchips, computers, essentially anything that’s made with electric, you know, made to operate on a core electronic basis, excuse me, it’s extremely durable, it’s relatively soft and malleable, and it’s heavily undervalued.

And the reason it is undervalued is because of a warped basis of supply and demand that has been created by various exchanges inside of London and inside of the New York Stock Exchange in the Wall street area, along with the big banks like bank of America and JP Morgan, which cumulatively have more than $750 billion in derivative shorts against those particular commodity assets. Silver is one of them, gold is another, and there’s a few other precious metals, palladium, platinum, copper, et cetera. And so just that alone, I think is evidence for the events that were hap that we see happening right here and now.

We’ve talked for a long time and you and I have been on shows prior over the previous months and years discussing how things like silver, things like certain tangible assets and commodities would have to go up in value. Because if you’re going to rebalance a financial system that is clearly warped in one direction and warped at a rather extreme angle at that, because it’s underpinned entirely with debt enslavement and no real items of value to be had, that rebalancing is going to drive the value of those truly valuable items up in proportional response. And we’re seeing that now as the world begins to reorient as the central banks that have been, in my opinion, in many cases purged of certain undue influences begin to actually surrender or properly manage the progress and process of fiscal policy.

As we look at the tariff situation, which I think is much more multifaceted even than what we’re told, as we look at what’s happening with Secretary Bessant and discussing the behavior between the United States and the Argentinian government, the United States and the Chinese government, all these sorts of things, I think it’s a natural following, if you will, or a natural follow through to see silver and other tangible assets begin to climb in value. And I would submit to you, John Michael, that this is probably only the beginning in certain ways because there is an economic boom, a momentum, if you will, that has not yet been achieved inside of this quantum leap in the American standard of living that President Trump has referenced a number of times.

And that will absolutely reverberate around the entirety of worldwide markets because a great deal of them are heavily dependent or even entirely dependent on what happens inside of North America and Western Europe. So, you know, this, the backwardation issue, again, I, I’m not familiar exactly with the terminology, but the basics of what supply and demand would dictate here as we look at rebalancing the ledger, I think that we can safely say things like tangibles, anything that has true real world value to it. Any, you know, like land, for example, it doesn’t have to just be metals.

It could be things like ammunition, it could be things like, you know, livestock or certain stocks that tie back to mining, for example, things of that nature. I would expect them to climb in value. As we see other more fiat based assets out there, especially in the finance sector, high finance around the world begin to default and be absorbed into this broader ecosystem. And we’ve seen a number of those happenings as well over the last four to five years with the bankruptcy of the Evergrande Group, a number of different things that have come out of China and Hong Kong, major bank failures and closures that have happened here in the United States.

I think we’re literally seeing that seesaw slowly but surely coming back to center over time. Well, thank you to our audience. I’m going to request some time from sgnon, maybe a couple of weeks down the line to cover a special report where we’re going to delve into justice. Civilian and military tribunals activity is ongoing at Gitmo. We’re going to discuss the ebs, which seems to be a foregone conclusion for me anyway, that that is on the docket as well as the new currency, the new banking system and the quantum financial system. I want to delve deeply into all these topics with SG on a special dedicated report because we are entering the latter part of October with November just around the corner.

And I believe the shit hits the fantasy, use the expression in a very big way. And I don’t think it’s necessarily although there’ll be a big event, it’s happening every day right now. We can see this with Leticia and Comey and Bolton and all roads lead to Obama. So we’re going to have a special report where we can dive into that with Sgnon coming up. My last question, I appreciate your time is describe the USA in your crystal ball, of course, describe the United States of America. What does it look like, broadly speaking, from a 40,000 foot view? We’ll end the program with that question.

What does it look like in July of 2026 in your best view? Well, I have to say, I think from what I can tell and from the trajectory that we seem to be on and the pace of events here domestically at home in the United States, it seems like July 2026 is going to be a very, very exciting time. But it’s going to be the beginning of that exciting time. And let me explain what I mean by that. Everyone remembers being an excited child on Christmas Day and everyone remembers the excitement that would lead up to the Christmas morning.

If you were an American child over the last 50 years, this is something that’s very relatable and very sort of broadly applicable to most of us out there inside the United States states. And so the excitement for Christmas didn’t happen on the 25th. It happened on like the 11th or 12th. And that excitement would continue to build and the anticipation would continue to build and the momentum, if, if we can use that term, would continue to build until you got to, you know, the Christmas Eve night and kids can’t sleep and the very next morning kids are up at 4:30 in the morning asking when you’re going to get up so they can open their presents and all of these sorts of things.

And that I think is a characterization of how this nation will feel nationally right around our 250th birthday, which is coming up in July of next year. I think we’re going to be right about 12 Days of Christmas, if you will, going into that period of time, because we still have another two and a half years on top of that to have this Trump presidency continue to pour the gasoline on the fire of we the People and on refiring this nation economically in the way that it was always supposed to be. It was always supposed to be a small business, successful economy augmented with very large influence and very large interests, but not overtaken by those interests.

It was always supposed to be a balanced way of life, a balanced standard of living. A standard of living that would be fair, just and truly equitable if you were willing to put in the effort, if you were willing to operate with some integrity and with some morality and with some ethic and bring your craft and your discipline and your talents and gifts and knowledge to the fray and participate in that broader public contribution and that broader public service we were always supposed to have. And this is, in my opinion, John, not just in the United States, but in the entirety of around the world.

We were always supposed to have a life journey that was properly balanced between our pursuits, our livelihoods, our productivity, things that we needed to do in order to generate money and things that we were able to do with that money to further both our spiritual and our material causes. There was always supposed to be a much greater equivalency there than what we’ve ever known at any point in our lifetimes and in my opinion, at any point over the last 500 years. And I believe in July of 2026, the United States of America will be finally tasting a bit of that excitement, a bit of that freedom, if you will, a bit of the expansion and the potential that comes with the unlocking of certain chains around we the people, both bureaucratically and administratively.

And I’m very much looking forward to that period. Yes, and so am I. And so is our audience. And I believe we’ll have the feeling of the 12 days before Christmas before the July 4th celebration. Thank you SG and on what’s the best where is the best place for people to continue to follow you and your podcast and your work? Well, I can be found in four places online for folks that would like to listen to the podcast project and other video interviews that I do. They can go to rumble.com the address is rumble.com user QNews Patriot I am not on Rumble by the name sgnon, but I can be found on Trusocial X and Telegram under those names.

I’m on Truth Social at the handle ealreal S G and on with a red check mark. I can be found on X at the handle the QNews Patriot with a blue check mark and the username SG Anon and I can be found on Telegram at the handle T me realreal qnewspatriot Excellent. Well, thank you very much SG Anon, for joining me here in conversations of consequence and sharing a bit of your journey that brought you to where you find yourself today. The MAGA audience. If you want to just lump it all together, the audience around the world is greatly appreciative of your expert analysis and commentary.

I certainly am, and I look forward to a special report with you in the up and coming weeks because November is upon us. Thank you very much. Stay safe. Sgnon. God bless you and your family. All right, I’ll be right back after this important message to discuss information you need to know concerning Gitmo along with important announcements and updates. I’ll be right back. The Federal Reserve is no more a government agency than Federal Express. The Federal Reserve is a corporation founded and run by international bankers. The Global Financial Reset is not just another podcast or episode of pertinent current discussions concerning economic related issues.

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Well, he was so right about that. And you know, we’ll be rewriting those textbooks a bit down the road with the truth, thanks to voices like SG and so many others. All right, I want to talk briefly in the next few minutes about Eyes on Gitmo. We launched our premiere episode last month. This is a monthly broadcast with our core panel consisting, as you see on the screen, of 107 retired Brigadier General Blaine Holt and retired Lieutenant Colonel Matt Mech of Retired Marine. And we’ll be launching the show. I don’t have the date, but it’s coming up.

We’ll make announcements at the end of this month. And I’ll tell you what, what are we going to talk about there? How are things processed at Gitmo? And by the way, Matt Meck has been at Gitmo many times on many projects, some 2004 to present, including the Media Center. So we’re going to delve into A lot of subjects ongoing with the Eyes on Gitmo, of course, having our panel weigh in on some of the current events because it’s critical, as well as trying to fill a fourth seat with perhaps other evolving military or intelligence guests. Some of the subjects we’re going to be talking about and learning about are describing the different wings that are set up at Gitmo.

Will lawyers be involved as we bring folks to Gitmo? What about the elderly that are incarcerated but not executed as a result of tribunals? What happens to them or people in general that are at Gitmo imprisoned? What about their medical care? Is there a facility for that? We’re going to dive into breaking down the difference of investigative and prosecutorial tribunals and what is happening within them. Three judge courts. Is there a jury? How does that work? Military police, Will they be used for the arrest to bring these individuals over? Comey Mueller, where will they end up getting their their day in court? Will it be in civilian? We see it heading there now.

Will it shift over? All right, FEMA ships, we’ll talk about how do we transport folks in and out of Gitmo? Is there room yet still for Gitmo expansion? With all that’s been done, we’ll be talking about the media center that is ready to roll. Reporting live from Gitmo, we’ll discuss the two separate courtrooms for news feeds simultaneously. Let’s see where else we’re going to be speaking about the speed of trials very, very different from what we see in the civilian courts. We’ll be discussing Nuremberg trials, recent tribunal history. What about the terrorists that have been there since 9, 11 and so forth? What’s the status of that? I got a long checklist of things that we’re going to be covering.

I’ll just cut it off there. But processing elected officials versus civilian. How does a civilian end up in Gitmo? These are the questions that things that are on our minds or should be. And we’re going to start jumping into this at Eyes on Gitmo again with Juan Savin, retired Brigadier General Blaine Holt and retired Lt. Col. Matt Mack. Let’s switch gears now to the Global Defense War. This is another military only predominantly. We’ll comment on that in a second. The global Defense War, I think, is entering its sixth, seventh or eighth month. It’s a monthly broadcast.

You can see. This is coming up this month again with retired Lt. Col. Ricardo Boce, Michael Jaco, former Navy SEAL, CIA Lt. Col. Chuck Sellers, army veteran Derek Johnson. And we are. I can’t officially announce it but it looks like we’re heading in the direction we’re just clearing some things. We may be inviting Sheila Holm, the very first non military person to the military panel to for her extraordinary analysis and input. We’re working that out. Stay tuned. She may be part of this panel at the end of the month. All right, let’s move on to the Global Financial Reset.

This is a every Wednesday live, the only show we do live presently at JMC broadcasting live on our backup rumble channel. Go to jmcbroadcasting.com subscribe for free, stay connected with us and hit the follow tabs this Wednesday live, 8:30pm Eastern. Actually, by the time this show publishes Conversations of Consequence, it’ll be Friday. But this is the the panel as you see us going through it. We have Benjamin Hart, retired, not retired, a US Attorney stationed in Bangkok. We have there he is. Thank you very much. And we Benjamin’s going to be talking about just briefly if if you didn’t catch it live, you’ll want to watch the Global Financial Reset.

It’s published up on our platforms. Benjamin Hart, attorney in Bangkok who I’ve been working with as a client for many years now, he’s going to discuss Digital totalitarianism, the 86 million bank accounts shut down in Vietnam and why and as well as other other issues. Christy Allen, she was going to be talking about how the switch was just flipped. QFs in certain ways is now active. She’ll be commenting on all things economic and she’s got some really good information. Bill Armour will discuss backwardation, what is really happening in the pricing of silver, the futures versus the real price, the out of inventory in London situation and so much more.

What it means for you and me who own silver or about to acquire silver metals are exploding. Bill Almond of Genesis Metals, we’ll be discussing that. We also have Josh Reed. I sat down with Josh, did a pre recorded segment on blockchain and cryptocurrency and the tokenization of everything. Josh Reed will be joining us. So you’ll want to check out the Global Financial Reset every Wednesday at 8:30pm Eastern. There’s Josh Reed and he’ll be covering a blockchain, crypto, XRP and more in that space. So every Wednesday 8:30pm and I’d like to direct your attention now to our current programming.

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