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Summary

➡ The speaker discusses the potential dangers of creating an entity without morals or limitations, expressing concerns about the unpredictability of such a movement. They also share a conversation with Dave Hodges, where they discuss their differing perspectives but shared goals, emphasizing the importance of respectful dialogue across political spectrums. The speaker encourages listeners to subscribe to their platforms for more content and introduces a product called Masterpiece. The conversation then shifts to the current state of the world, with both speakers agreeing that challenging times are ahead and emphasizing the importance of preparing and adapting. They express hope that people can make a difference and change the direction of the world, despite the difficulties that lie ahead.
➡ The text discusses the power of discernment and intuition, suggesting that these are gifts humans possess that artificial intelligence and robotics do not. It emphasizes the importance of prayer and connection with others, and the ability to create reality based on our beliefs and intentions. The text also warns about the dangers of frequencies as weapons of war and the need for discernment to protect oneself. It criticizes mainstream media for manipulation and deception, and encourages the development of our abilities to protect ourselves in this new warfare.
➡ The text discusses various issues such as the persecution of doctors and journalists, the destruction in Gaza, the questionable actions of Israel, the instability of the financial system, and the importance of investing in physical precious metals. It also talks about the controversial plans of World Liberty Financial and the Board of Peace to digitize the world, and the potential dangers of artificial intelligence. The text emphasizes the need for more people to resist these developments and protect humanity.
➡ The text discusses concerns about artificial intelligence (AI) lacking moral and emotional regulation, potentially leading to dangerous outcomes. It also mentions the overbuilding of data centers, possibly for powering underground communities built by billionaires. The text suggests that these underground fortresses could be a response to potential threats like biochemical warfare or asteroid impacts. Lastly, it mentions the significant investment in alternative energy sources by large companies, which could be beneficial if used for humanity’s good rather than warfare.
➡ The text discusses the serious issue of declining plankton populations in the ocean due to pollution and climate change, which is disrupting the ecosystem and causing a decrease in fish and other marine life. A solution proposed is a device called an aqua therm, which uses AI to mimic the natural upwelling process, bringing nutrients to the surface and helping plankton recover. This technology could potentially restore marine ecosystems and even create jobs. However, it requires significant investment and support from federal projects and private investors to be implemented on a large scale.
➡ The speaker discusses their experiences at conferences and interactions with influential figures. They express disappointment in the perceived abandonment of principles by some leaders and the influence of large corporations. They also mention a shift in focus towards solutions and helping others, highlighting their involvement in the Plankton Project, aimed at restoring ocean ecosystems. The speaker encourages others to take action and be good stewards of resources.
➡ The speaker discusses their involvement in a project, urging people not to succumb to evil and to follow their work on various platforms. They express concern about a religious organization’s actions that seem inconsistent with its stated beliefs. They also mourn the loss of a person named Charlie, who they believe was a great reformer and potential future president. The speaker ends by thanking their collaborator, Sarah, and directing listeners to an exclusive segment on westallmedia.com.

Transcript

So therefore we’re creating an entity that is soulless, without morals and the goal is the objective, without any restraints or guardrails. And that is dangerous. And I’ve explained this before at a conference and I had an AI person come up to me and said, you just captured exactly why I’m afraid of this whole movement because it’s without limitation and we can’t predict how good or how bad it’ll be. Foreign. Thank you for listening, thank you for sharing and please subscribe below and think about joining my substack at Sarah Westall substack.com or my newsletter. You can sign up for that as well@Sarah Westall.com and remember to give a thumbs up and to subscribe on the platform that you’re watching.

Welcome to Business Game Changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have my friend Dave Hodges coming to the program. Actually I was on his program and I’m just going to re air this and we just had a really good conversation. You know, we think differently, we come at things differently, but I believe that at the end of the day we both want the same thing. And so we’re willing to talk about issues that are really important to discuss. And he’s a good friend of mine, so we talk all the time and you can tell in the way that we discuss these things.

And I love the fact that he’s listening to people from different political spectrums and showing respect. He brings up Amy Goodman and how he’s really respecting what she’s reporting on. I love that. I love that he’s willing to just look at who’s really talking about the truth. We gotta drop all these, these extreme division that we have and just look at what’s going on. But I’m not gonna play this whole thing because it’s super long. So if you wanna see this full interview, need to go to west media.com that’s my substack. I’ll have the full interview pieces there loaded and you’ll be able to see it all.

I’ll show a portion of it here because like I said, it’s just too long. He’s going to break it up too. He’s not going to be showing the whole interview. So he’s just going to show different portions on his show because it’s too long. So if you like this and you want to hear more, go to again to WestonMedia.com which is my substack and subscribe there and you can hear the full interview there. Okay, let’s get into my Discussion with my friend Dave Hodges. Sarah, do you have a primary sponsor on this? Do I have a primary sponsor? I have a bunch of sponsors.

But we could do. We could talk about my gold company, but let’s talk about something different. Let’s talk about Masterpiece. Masterpiece is a binder that if you are on a GLP1 or if you are in this world living like the rest of us and you’re getting bombarded with, you know, heavy metals and graphene oxide and all the crap that we’re getting bombarded with, this, they, this company is great. It takes out all those things and graphene oxide and aluminum. But they have proven that their stuff works. They’re the only company I know that actively does tests and act and has a hair test that you can get to prove it works for yourself.

So I highly recommend this. So this is called Masterpiece. And I’ll have the link below. Okay. I think I’m going to actually take a look at that. It’s my first encounter with that. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to hit a number of topics here today with Sarah and I just, I just have to tell you that we are living in critical times. For my Christian brothers and sisters, I agree with my pastor. We are headed towards the end times. If you’re secular oriented, and I hope that you come around, but if you’re secular oriented, we are headed for some very deep and dark days.

There are some very evil people out here that have seized control of our government. I catch them in lies on a daily basis. And I actually did a search today. Sarah, I think you find this interesting. I belong to a group called Hear the Watchman. It’s Christian people that speak at conference. And you get a few thousand people that come and then we have the videos afterwards. And our message is the same. We’re the watchman on the wall. We see what’s going on. So I did some research on this. I said, am I really supposed to be doing this? And the Bible says, you better be doing it.

And so for you secular people, you have an obligation to each other. And what Sarah and I are going to bring you and we’re going to bring you over a series of time is about helping you adjust to what’s coming. Because what was coming is no longer coming. It’s already here. Sarah, I’ll let you pick up on that theme. Where do you want to start? Well, I think I try to. As people know, I’ve been shifting. I’ve had a. Spent a lot of time doing years and years of this is what’s coming, right. And. And I’ve shifted a little bit to, okay, how do we deal? I already think it’s here pretty much this change.

And, you know, I mean, back when the Olympics happened and my. I kept seeing number 6 18, and I told you about that and how that was the four Watchmen. I couldn’t believe that number was the same. But since then, I’ve shifted how I approach all this, and I approach it more from. This is a time where we’re lifting the veil. I think the end times is more. We’re learning and we’re seeing and things are being exposed. And so the world can go in a few different directions. If we choose to step up and take control of our own lives and where we want it to go, I think we can guide this into a much better place.

It’s not going to be pretty and it’s going to be really hard. But I choose to believe whether it’s true or not, this is something I have to believe because I think this is a healthier way, is that we have the ability to make a difference and that we can change this direction. I really, truly believe that at the core of my being. And I think this. This time is about us seeing things for what they are, and it’s about new beginnings. But it’s so hard, and it’s going to. Everyone’s going to struggle through this as they learn some of these truths that we’re learning about, that I’ve learned about.

And I’m kind of on the other side of it, but a lot of people are in the middle of it, are really hard to learn. Like, some of the stuff that is going on with Epstein. Epstein is just the tip of the iceberg. This is that when we say that blackmail and human compromise is how the power structure operates, it really does. There are companies that literally their entire purpose is to compromise people, and it’s because they realize that it’s easier. If you’re going to be fighting a war and you’re going to be killing tens of thousands of people, you don’t think you’re going to try to compromise a few people instead of killing people.

I mean, this is not. This is very serious, and it’s the way things operate. No, I totally agree. Epstein and I look at it this way. Epstein and Diddy and anyone else in that genre, they are not outside the system. They are a symptom and a product of the system. And it’s the system that’s running this planet. Yeah, I think so. And I Think we have the opportunity to change this. We always have the opportunity. I think the one thing they don’t want us to know is that we have more power than we really have. And it’s really a cliche.

You know, you almost get into the feeling like a cliche when you hear that. But I do think that we. And I know that you look at this a little bit differently, and I think that’s okay. I think that the search for figuring out what the world is, the search for truth, is the most important. If you just take what someone’s telling you and you just believe it and move and go on with it, I don’t think that’s the purpose. I think the purpose is for you to struggle to understand what the truth is and in every.

In every area. And so if you are questioning what. What your pastor is saying and you’re questioning, this is my belief, you’re questioning the understanding of the scripture, that’s okay, because your struggle to understand the truth is. Is the path, the struggle of discovery, figuring out what the. All this means, because somebody that just accepts it without any questioning, they’re not going to really understand it. Well, there’s the Scripture and then there’s the application and interpretation of the Scripture. And see, when you have a human speaking to a human and they’re saying, okay, the scripture says this about that, chances are they’re probably right.

Some things are very straightforward, but it’s also open to interpretation. And so I think the question is, is it? But see, Christians have the antidote to the uncertainty, and that’s prayer. And they ask for divine guidance from the Holy Spirit to get discernment. So that. That’s the firewall checkpoint. But I do agree with you. You can’t accept what another human being says to you at face value, no matter who that human being is. I’m sorry, but nobody. Do we have anything besides human beings? No, but. Okay, one thing that was really cool. I had Katie Asher’s.

I interviewed her about her son. And he’s autistic, right? And he doesn’t have the filters that the rest of us have. He just gets all the signals. And he knows all these languages. He knows the. He knows the Bible, like word for word, end to end. He can compose music. He can do all these things. He’s not here most of the time. He’s in another dimension or whatever. He can read your mind and your thoughts. And he says that we only see a portion of what reality really is and that we. Because we’re being blocked from Seeing it all.

And so I think that we, we have gifts. We, you know, the intuition that people are afraid of, I think that is something that is. AI doesn’t have that, Robotics doesn’t have that. We have that. And that’s our power. We can connect with each other. That’s what prayer is. We can connect with each other and in profound ways to manifest. And that word almost is cliche too, but we can create reality based on what we truly believe and what our intentions are. And that is something I think has been seriously suppressed. And that our understanding of who we are in that direction.

You got to protect yourself, right? Because we’re getting bombarded with frequencies. Frequencies are weapons of war. And in order to guide, gear yourself and protect yourself from these frequencies of war, you, you have to have discernment. If you’re getting a message that you are a bad person or you. I think a lot of journalists and a lot of people on the edge of this war are getting messages to commit suicide and things like that. I know that I’m hearing a lot of this. That is where you need to have discernment. This isn’t coming from me. This is coming from a frequency that is a weapon.

It’s a weapon. They have these weapons. They can send these frequencies to you. The discernment you have to have is to be able to understand that, that that message is not the message from God or from the spiritual world or from the universe. Whatever you believe is your, your source, that’s from a human weapon. That’s bullshit. And you need to have this discernment to understand that difference. That’s why I think this, that’s why I’ve been studying remote viewing and developing my intuition so that I can have that level of discernment. And I understand that not everybody agrees on that front, but I truly, I’m going down that road because I, I think this is where society’s going.

Yeah. I’ll tell you, long time ago I trained with Ed Dames on remote viewing long time ago. And my Christian affiliation wasn’t as nearly as strong as it is today. And there are people who will tell you that when you do things like remote viewing, they call it divination. And you’re really putting yourself in a dangerous spiritual realm position. But I also know this to be true too. This is the flip side of that coin that it’s really clear. You know, you look at the Bible, the disciples, they had visions, they had prophecies, and as Christians, you’re supposed to accept these.

If they’re scriptural. And so where did they get these visions in prophecies from? So to me, you know, I’m not sure what the right answer is here. I would say this though. It’s really clear. We have demonic influences in the world. Very clear. And they do occupy themselves a lot in the spiritual realm. And people need to be careful. I think you always need to be careful. And I explain like that example. I think if we don’t develop our, our abilities, I think we’re sitting ducks in this new weapon frequency weapon warfare. So you think we need to develop that sixth sense as a measure of protection? Yes.

Okay. Yes. And I think Jesus did and I think that that was his source of power. Well, he did say when he did the miracles, he did say this. I do and you can do more. So this is one thing when people get hypercritical. I interviewed someone on remote viewing a few years ago and I got criticized and I said what did Jesus say about this? And interesting person made three predictions that have all come true too. It was fascinating. The one thing I would say though too is this, is that I think there’s more concentrated effort from evil to control our day to day three dimensional realm of reality.

Because everything is a deception. The mainstream media people, if you want to know what the mainstream media is like, go to 1982 Don Henley dirty Laundry song. It’s probably the best description I’ve ever heard in music about the mainstream media. And they’re all design designed to deceive you. It’s too bad that it’s like that because the majority, you know, like when I listen to NPR, 70% of what I’m listening to is actually really good information. And then yeah, I’m like, I learned a lot of stuff from there that I wouldn’t learn from the conservative media. And then like 30% of it is, I don’t know what percentage.

There’s a certain percentage, percentage of it that is purely there to manipulate you. And I just so bothersome when I have to turn it off because I like their presentation better. But then I go to the other side and a lot of their stuff is good. They, they present it differently. And I don’t, I, I don’t like it not being presented in more of a. I don’t calmer way sometimes. But they, there’s some really good information. There’s some really good people I like to listen to, especially the free market people or people who are just common sense realists.

I love that. And a lot of the independents are, you know, they don’t get into the propaganda, and they’re just about, you know, what’s really happening. But then they intertwine the same BS when it comes to war and when it comes to why we’re fighting. You know, all this, you know, it’s propaganda too. And I just, this morning I listened to both of them. Both of them were on the propaganda route. You know, there’s two channels I like to listen to both of them right in the middle of the propaganda that I know is lies. And I had to turn them both off.

And I just listened to music because I knew that what I was being presented with were, was. Was bs. Do you know who I admire out of the mainstream? And she’s on pbs? Amy Goodman. And are you familiar with her? Yep, Yep. Okay. She’s doing stuff on Gaza now that I can’t believe she’s getting away with covering. And she just did something on Julian Assange. I couldn’t believe she got away with saying the things she said, all truthful, courageous as heck. And she brought on these Lebanese doctors, some of them born in America, that went there.

And they exposed the fact that the Israelis. The IDF is killing journalists so they can’t tell the story. Reuters, for example, they’re killing doctors so they can’t treat the wounded in Gaza. You know what? Hey, October 7th was terrible. Yes, it was. But can you tell me what 70,000 dead children had to do with that? I know, and I don’t understand how that’s not. That’s why when, you know, when they try to convince you that Christianity. This is why I say you have to have discernment. And I think that if human beings are involved, they can write and add things to scripture.

Right. You have to be careful with everything. Just because that book can be manipulated too. I’m sorry, I know a lot of people are like, this is the word of God. Well, I think that word of God, if human beings are involved, can write something in it. Because the most effective way to manipulate you is to tell you, God says to do this, and if you don’t do it, you’re a bad person. Well, the Bible says Jesus said many will come in my name. That’s right, exactly what you’re describing right there. And. And the mainstream media is the enemy of the people.

I actually did a piece that haven’t published it yet. It’s going to publish today. And it’s here, the watchman stuff. What’s my duty? And my duty is to speak truth to power. I’m not responsible for the outcome But I can’t soften it. I can’t lighten the load. I can’t have discernment. I just need to say what I see. And that’s what we’re commanded to do. And this is why these venues are under such attack. Censorship is becoming a weapon against people that are telling the truth because the mainstream media war has already been lost. Now they’re focusing on.

They just don’t want us to do peer to peer communication and they want to control that as well. Well, I think the best of us are the ones who have been attacked, right? These doctors during COVID for example, who saved every single patient they’ve had, or most of them, almost everyone or all of them shared what they were doing with others, are still being persecuted. The people who are fighting like crazy to make sure that innocent people aren’t hurt, make sure humans aren’t traffic trafficked, they’re the most persecuted. And you know, that is. I just, I just can’t tell you how wrong that is in my fiber of my being that this is what’s happening.

That’s why when you bring up Amy Goodman doing what she’s doing, good for her, good show. Listen, we come from different political spectrums. She’s liberal and I’m conservative. But I respect the heck out of that lady for telling the truth like she is. And she is deeply concerned about the welfare of other human beings. And I can respect that. Well, and that’s where we all have to be. You know, Yahoo or not Yahoo. Google Maps put out the satellite imagery recently in Gaza. And Dave, it’s bad when you look at it. There are, it is flattened.

You know, they say they show reels of people who aren’t starving and how they’re all operating normally. You go and you look at that satellite imagery. There are large areas that are completely flattened and these are neighborhoods. You don’t do that if you’re just trying to get to the criminals who did an event on October 7th. You don’t do that. Right before. I agree with you. Right before we went on air, I was out of my studio and in my house and my wife had on the local news and they were interviewing a young man that survived IDF bombings in his neighborhood.

And he escaped, he and his family escaped to America. But they presented the story like it was something that was an isolated event. And I’m thinking, no, this is the norm going, they’re going after journalists, that’s the norm. They’re going after doctors, that’s the norm. They’re going after Kids in elementary school. See, this is something I’ve talked a lot about. When Israel got challenged for bombing elementary schools, they said, well, this is where Hamas keeps their headquarters. Okay, let’s assume that’s true for a second. Then why can’t you, with precision bombing they have supplied by the US Taxpayer, why can’t they bomb those schools at night when the kids aren’t there? See, they don’t answer that question.

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It’s, that’s a really, really good point. Why are they shooting people randomly who are in line to get food? Yeah, it’s all happening. It’s on tape. You can’t deny it. Now, who knows what the censorship gods are going to do to us. And I use that small G. But the real, the reality is this is that this is Satan’s planet. We had evil people controlling. We got good people trying to fight. We have some good people in government, but the money from the evil ones is winning out in our Congress. And I’m going to give you an example.

Why is Gaza being flattened and why is there such a dramatic population going on? Well, all you got to do and I did an expose on this on Monday. It’s called World Liberty Financial. The Trump kids and Zach Wyckoff’s kids. Wyckoff, ENVOY TO THE Middle East Talk about conflict of interest between these two parties. World Liberty Financials teamed with Silicon Valley and they are going to build the equivalent of what we would call 15 minute cities. High tech Silicon Valley. The IDF is the military muscle and they’re not going to stop in Gaza. They actually said we’re going to take over Greenland.

Well, we just took over their security agreement. The group has also said we’re going to Take over Cuba. Well, Trump threatened that two weeks ago. So we’re looking at a group called World Liberty Financial, but they’re out of the Board of Peace. Are you familiar with the Board of Peace? The Board of Peace, yeah, but talk about an oxymoron name. It’s the Board of Disruption. But Trump is the lifetime head. He appoints a successor. Costs a billion dollars for a world leader to get in. And the Trump kids and the Silicon Valley people are all in this group and they want to digitize the world.

They want to digitize every currency that’s called social credits coming. And they have on their page and people, you can go look this up. BoardOfPeace Live L I V E. I’ve never heard that extension before, but it is for this. They’re operating with permission from the World Economic Forum. They say so. They’re working on permission from the UN Security Council. They say so. And they are engaged in, shall we say, colonization efforts, both military and digital. And it’s beginning to start around the world, you know, and what’s so disturbing is this digital stuff doesn’t have to be negative.

It could be freedom oriented. I agree. Technology is indifferent. It’s neutral. It’s what they’re doing with it. It’s just like a gun or it’s just like any. Anything. It doesn’t. A gun can be of protection or it can be of massive destruction. Anything can be used wheeled as something that, not anything. Technology can be used as something that really could bring back, bring in freedom and prosperity for us unless the people who are running it have a different intent. And so that’s a struggle I have with it. I also think that a lot of people inside these organizations are struggling because they’re afraid to lose their jobs.

And they are. They’re just kind of ignoring what they’re implementing. It’s very sad because a lot of these engineers are implementing it because they either a, they’re not smart enough to understand the big world picture. A lot of scientists and engineers don’t understand. They’re pretty myopic and. But they’re smart in their own little myopic lane. Right? They don’t understand the big picture. That’s very common with scientists and engineers. But the second part, the ones who do are turning a blind eye and just saying I need to keep my job. That’s sad. And the third group are the people who see it and are courageous and are fighting from within.

But that group isn’t large enough. Although in Europe, that 98% in England, 98% of Google’s AI DeepMind group in, in there, the AI Gemini group voted to unionize to push back. What AI is doing with Gemini, I thought that was amazing. And so there, that’s a group of engineers that are doing good things and they’re trying to protect humanity by saying, no, we don’t want this kind of use. We don’t want to be used. We are. Our mind and our services don’t want to be used to do this to humanity. And they’re pushing back. The problem is that Google created another group in Silicon Valley years ago because they bought out the AI Advanced Engineering Group in England and that was the basis of Gemini.

And then later they, they created their own AI group, although the, the group that’s in England is still dominant in, with, inside Gemini. So they can’t just cut them off. They’re, they have more power. So the fact that 98 of those engineers unionize and they’re pushing back is absolutely wonderful. But, but we need to see more of that. Sarah, I, I want to put a little of my psychology background into this. You know, for the audience may not know. I worked as a therapist. I’ve taught at a pretty high level. I’ve written curriculum. And when I look at AI okay, and I guess I’ll kill this topic here because I was going to do this separately, but I think this is.

You brought it up. You hit right on the stone here. We can’t define fully what human intelligence is, but what we hear Silicon Valley tech bros like Altman and Thiel say is, oh, we’re just mimicking human intelligence. You don’t know what that is. But even if they did, even if they did, they’re going down a path that’s dangerous and potentially very evil. And here’s why I say that. Because they’re going to create thinking machines that can outthink us, outperform us, logic will put us in the dust, and they have no guardrails. And here’s what I mean by that.

A human being has power, but we also have something called an amygdala, a limbic system and a prefrontal cortex. This is all about emotional regulation combined with logic and planning. And our logic and planning and fulfilling our goals is often tempered by our morality that comes from other parts of the brain that I just mentioned. And AI can’t have any of that. So therefore, we’re creating an entity that is soulless, without morals, and the goal is the objective, without any restraints or guardrails. And that is dangerous. And I’VE explained this before at a conference and I had an AI person come up to me and said, you just captured exactly why I’m afraid of this whole movement because it’s without limitation and we can’t predict how good or how bad it’ll be.

It’s incredible that they. There isn’t more wisdom that’s being displayed here and that they don’t. They realize that this is pretty dangerous. I was on Newt Gingrich’s podcast and he asked me point blank the. You know, because I’m not as concerned about the. I think the data centers are being overbuilt. There might be other purposes for them, but they’re being overbuilt. They’re not. They’re. They’re the infrastructure. Right? They’re not. They’re not the software. They’re not AI. They’re the infrastructure for AI. And again, we talked about technology being good or bad. And I think that you can implement the data structures in or the data centers in so many different ways.

I eventually think it’s going to be in space and be totally distributed. But it can be distributed. It doesn’t. They don’t have to have, if they engine neared it properly, they don’t have to have any of the issues that they’re currently having. So that’s a bunch of boneheads doing what they’re doing. So to me, I think eventually, before you leave that I want, I want to throw something in that I have found. You have Sam Altman, who has 11 known major. I, I don’t want to call them bomb shelters. They’re basically an underground fortress. Okay. And 11 of them.

And there’s a pact between he and Peter Thiel that if things go to heck in a handbasket, they’re going to jump on a plane and go to the biggest one in New Zealand. Okay, now let me tell you what you brought up about data centers. This is something I’m beginning to consider. I agree with. They’re overbuilt. We don’t need that much energy unless they’re going to support subterranean communities. And we’re seeing evidence of that with the leakage of all these billionaires that have these underground fortresses. They need something to power it. And I think the data centers could be.

That could be one of the purposes of a data center is to power these subterranean communities they’re building. And let me just share one other thing with you. And it was about 1995 or 6 and DIA was being built, Denver International Airport, and I went in to Chili’s and I was going to meet a friend of mine and I was visiting in Colorado, visiting my mom and friend of mine from high school is going to come meet me. So I’m sitting down at the bar and this lady next to me started talking to me and she’d had a few too many.

And I said, well, what do you do for a living? And she goes, well, I’m technically a backhoe operator, but I do a lot more than that. Now, where do you do your work? She goes, dia and she goes, you won’t believe what they’re putting down there. She goes, they’re building an entire city from north of Denver all the way to Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado Springs. Now, this was the 90s. Now we know this is true. But when we look at these subterranean communities, I think they’re far more numerous when they think. And going back to my original point, that the data centers are going to be used to power these.

Why do they have to go underground? Why are these billionaires being exposed for having these underground fortresses and refuge? What do you think? Have you thought about whether your investments are making the highest returns they can and eliminating as much taxes as you can? I think all of us want that strategy, right? That’s the strategy that the wealthiest use. And my friends at Ironhawk Financial are helping my listeners figure out a strategy to do exactly that. If you want the best returns on your portfolios, you want to eliminate as much taxes as you humanly possibly can, and you want to set up your grandkids, you want to set up your kids, and you want to set up yourself for having the most amount you possibly can in your portfolios.

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So there’s something else going on. Or, you know, there could be some simple explanations, but I, I don’t trust anybody. But this a simple explanation could be we’re financially broke and we needed to simulate the economy so that they’re just throwing money in a different, in a certain direction, which is the infrastructure they did that in 2000 with the Internet and it way overbuilt and then a bunch of things crashed and then it still really built up. So it could be a repeat of 2000 and the Internet infrastructure. And they’re doing this for AI and just throwing money at it to fill a hole of the economy needing investment.

That is a plausible explanation, but it is overbuilt. They did a wartime allocation for data centers, which is unheard of. I mean that’s incredible that they did that. So what is the purpose of these? Was it just for financial to prop up the economy or was it other per. Because they’re way over building. And so that is a research area that is very worth investigating. And so I’m not going to say you’re not right. Because I don’t know. And it’s worth investigating. And we do know that they’re building all these underground facilities. I don’t know. I don’t know either.

And you know what, I’m going to ask you this, okay. And this is we just are speculating here because we’re not going to be able to find a document. I’m sure. But they’re running from something. I think that’s a given. Something bad is going to happen. On the surface, I think that goes without saying. Otherwise they wouldn’t be spending this money to do this. But here’s what I think. Asteroid, biochemical, nuclear. Well, if I had that kind of money, I’d be building a bunker in this time. Would you? Yeah, because of. Just because of how biological things are.

So I get it. I saw an interview with Sam Altman yesterday on YouTube and he said, oh, AI is so good. They’re really good at biochemical weaponry. And he said it like it was something to brag about. I just almost fell out of my chair. Everything’s about a weapon instead of what can help humanity. That is their mindset. You can get the most investment from weapons and that everything is developed for warfare and then trickles down into society. I shouldn’t say everything but most things. Right. And why our paradigm is screwed up. But the other thing that is interesting is the largest companies are investing huge amounts of financial resources and capital into building up alternative energy sources.

So that is, that’s an interesting development. What does it mean by alternative energy sources? Plasma, nuclear? They’re not talking about grid energy, they’re talking about alternative energy that can be outside the grid. It’s stuff that we should have been developing 40 years ago. Tesla and scalar energy. Yes, yes. And that’s A great development if used to have benefit humanity, not just a power warfare. So, but you know, so getting back to what I was saying earlier about, well, you know, what we’re missing. What about the missing scientists in that field? That. That’s right. A dozen of them dead or missing, including a high ranking general that was retired and working at Wright Patterson Air Force Base.

But that tells me there’s multiple factions fighting. There you go. That’s what I totally agree. Yeah. And something else I saw on YouTube and I don’t know how to if I believe this or not, but they said that with the underground construction that some people have uncover covered for some of these billionaires from Silicon Valley and world leaders, that what they’re seeing is preparation for combat underground. Yeah, they showed a little bit of proof. So I think you’re onto something there. Yeah, so. So then I was asked, so you’re not worried about the infrastructure? And I said not necessarily.

So those are just two separate conversations. AI is a separate company goes, so you’re worried about AI is that. And I said it’s extremely serious because he asked me about military. And I said it’s extreme, extremely serious. If you’re going to automate war and you’re going to decide who you’re going to bomb, what countries you’re going to bomb, what areas you’re going to bomb, you can’t automate that without human intervention. You do. And it’s, it’s extremely serious. And he’s, he’s leading, you know, doing some kind of military to future warfare. Hopefully he’ll have the wisdom to really help guide that in a good direction.

Direction. I think that there is there we do have some wise people who are older, who are in their, you know, that are in their 80s, in their 70s, who are like, I just want to start doing good things. I realized that I might not have been the best person when I was in my 50s and 60s in powerful positions. I realize I got sucked into things, but I’m older now. You know a congressperson like that, don’t you? Yeah, I, you know, I’m old, I do and I, and I’m older now. I’m wiser, you know, he didn’t articulate that, but his actions are showing that.

And I would say that’s Mike Kelly of Erie. You know, he’s the, he’s located, I don’t know what district. It’s Erie, Pennsylvania. He’s been, he was chairman of the Ways and Means Committee. He’s powerful senior person in Congress, but he’s helping to implement this ocean project to help because we know that the plankton is disappearing and we can create thousands and thousands of well paying, AI resistant jobs while cleaning up our oceans. I mean, what could be better than that? We know that the oceans are in collapse. The plankton are the insects of the ocean. If the insects on land disappeared, we’d all die.

That’s the foundation of our ecosystem. The plankton in the oceans are disappearing. Cape Cod has no plankton at this point. The Gulf of Maine, the Gulf of Mexico or America has over 65% has been lost. Over 50% of the plankton has been lost in our oceans. Overall, the biomass of the fish and the animals in the ocean is down by over 50%. The biomass of migrant freshwater fish is down over 82%. The, the shellfish, the shells of, of shrimp and lobster are softer and bendable. They used to be hard. It’s because they’re not getting the nutrients.

So these plankton are dying because they’re not getting the nutrients. The good part is the nutrients are lower in the ocean, lower levels. Right. Because we have this natural upwelling process that brings that nutrients up because of pollution, they claim because of. Some scientists say this is where we have to stop fighting on why it’s happening and say I get so triggered on the climate change people, because I know that triggers almost everybody in this audience. We have to say, who cares? We know the plankton is dropping. We know that the water temperature is increasing because the upwelling is not occurring.

The upwelling is causing the water to decrease in temperature because it’s cooler. Water comes up to the surface, brings the nutrients, feeds the plankton and it cools the water. That’s not happening. I think it’s not happening because of pollution. I think there’s a chemical. I agree with you. Yeah. But to other scientists that aren’t seeing the whole system of what’s happening, are seeing it as climate change and warming. Okay, that it is warming, but it’s warming because it’s not. The system isn’t working and I think it’s because of pollution. There needs to be more science behind that.

It doesn’t matter. We need to help this upwelling happen. So the solution we actually demonstrated a template, another template, a working prototype of this aqua therm, which, the one that we had was 30ft long by a couple feet wide. And it, but what is an aqua firm? Can you define? It’s a prototype of this. It’s like a big tube, right, that will take water, you Take this big tube, it’s like this net that’ll have AI sensors and stuff. This is where AI is good because it’ll have AI sensors where the mat. The, the densest nutrients are.

Where do we need to bring it? They can even modulate how much. If they want to decrease the ocean temperature on the top to decrease storms, they can do that too. But what it does is it pushes water through and it, it duplicates the natural upwelling process and it brings that nutrients up to the surface and the plankton actually recover pretty quickly within like two to three days. Now the bigger fish don’t recover that quickly. It’s going to take a while. But if you can recover the foundation really quick, you’re beautiful. And it, and in this, the, the real ones, the ones that aren’t going to be prototyped, the ones that are going to be in service are going to be a couple hundred meters wide by a couple hundred meters long.

It’s going to be able to do a thousand tons of water a second and it’s going to, we could, with a couple hundred ships we can completely restore the Gulf of Mexico, Gulf of America, whatever. Yeah, that was my next question. So if we have the technology that can do this and save the ocean, what’s the distribution potential that we have in humanity? How much would it take, how much would it cost and do we have the resources to distribute it? Do you have to do it globally or in key points? Can you address any of those? Well, we have, it’s going to take us about six months for some of these projects, these federal projects to start to kick in.

And we have some state projects. We already have a university in Pennsylvania that is, we met with the president of the university. They are all in on this because they want to train these people. We, we also can work with prison populations. You know, the ones who are, who are calmer, who are in there for not paying child support or something, you know, something that’s not a violent crime. We can get them out there, get them trained, working high paying jobs, pay, pay their child support. There’s so many good things we can do with this. And what we need is some initial environment investment to get bridges to where these federal projects are coming in.

This would be a very lucrative investment for somebody who wants to invest. We’re looking for people who have a million or more to help us kickstart. And I mean we already are kickstarted. We have a prototype, we are working on the, the rest we already have the, the federal, some big federal we’re meeting with 15, 16 Congress people in January. I mean this thing’s moving. Yeah, but we need some investment in now so we can start building some of these ships or at least renting some of them. We need ships to handle the ocean because the ones that are in operation now can’t handle some of these deep water where we need to get to now.

The we can reuse current ships for the freshwater lakes, you know, Lake Superior, Lake Erie, you know, the big, the Great Lakes. But for. Would this clean the water supply in places like Flint, Michigan? Would it have an effect on that? A quick break to share with you this wonderful product called Masterpiece. It is proven to taking out graphene oxide, aluminums, heavy metals, microplastics. They also are looking at these Mac addresses and there’s more and more research and there’s studies coming out. There’s four documentaries that are being made on their studies about how they’re able to disable Mac addresses that are somehow put into people.

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And there was a plan to take him out in San Antonio the next day. If that didn’t work okay with Trump, he goes to Butler and nothing like get shot in the face to get your attention. And then what I’ve noticed with all these deals that came out, they were post Butler within about 60 days World Liberty Financial setting up arrangements of the UAE and the Saudi Arabia and what was to come. And it all happened after Butler. And I think this is where groups like the Mossad and the Tech Bros Got together and said, look, they’re going to kill you.

You, they try to kill you on your own golf course. But we’ll protect you. We’ll protect you, but it’s going to come at a cost. And we’ll also make you the president. Well, I don’t know some of that. I think it’s a, it’s a, it’s a good theory I, I had, you know, Clay Clark ran the Awakening events and he did a, did a conference with one of his sons. And I couldn’t believe it. He was, he was doing what was not done. Not Donald Trump Jr. But the other one. He was doing a business conference with him around the country.

And I talked to Clay and for hours, a couple hours on the phone, and he was just railing about how they abandoned everything that they believed in and that he doesn’t want to have anything to do with them. And was it, was this Eric? Eric? Yes, it was Eric. And I just said, he goes, so I’m just doing shallow shit and I’m going to do that. I mean, he was so like, at bottom. And I said, oh, my gosh, Clay. You know, I, it was an interesting conversation of. He was like, at bottom, I’m just gonna continue and do the most shallow shit right now and just get, make money for a while.

But I’ve been used. I think he felt used. But they don’t care. They’re doing a 180 on this and nobody cares. And that was pre Butler. So I’m like, wow, this is kind of interesting. So I started getting messages like that. You know, I, I, I know Clay pretty well. We haven’t talked for a while, but I have had him on my show 13 times. And I spoke at his conferences twice, once in Phoenix and once in California. And each time the Trump sons were there. Okay? Top level generals that supported Trump were there. I rubbed elbows with the rich and famous, so to speak, when I was there.

And the mood there was, you know, pro American, and there was no nonsense to it. I’m telling you, these people were sincere. You engage in private conversations. It was no different than what they were telling the public on stage. So they were totally sincere. But the MAGA movements, Marjorie Taylor Greene is 100% right. The MAGA movement was captured by the Tech Bros. In Israel. That’s a fact. And this is why Clay Clark has backed off. He’s not going to come out publicly and say it, but I know him well enough to know this is why he’s not doing anything anymore.

Yeah, Yeah. I don’t know. I, all I know is that I’ve been, I was hearing things early, so. Yeah, but I, I remember, you know, I’m in a circle and we’re backstage and, and Don Jr. Was there and General, I forget his name jumps out of my head. Now we’re supposed to have a bowling contest. He was the, the National Security Advisor that got kicked out in Trump’s first month. And we’re all sitting in a. In a circle. Scotty was at this conference too, as a vendor, and they were talking about the challenges we had. And the challenges we had were undue corporate influence that have to be controlled and the government has to basically protect the people.

That was the discussion in a private group. And now they’ve sold their soul to the people they were saying are trying to take over the government. I think the problem is that they’re that big and have that much power. That’s right. Look at the market caps. These Companies are trillions, 5 trillion, 4 trillion dollar companies. They’re bigger than many of the countries. Right. They’re massive. And we, we talk about monopolies, not having power and then breaking them down so that you can create, you can actually keep your government. These have gotten way beyond what the founders even remotely could think about.

This is beyond monopoly, you know. Well, there were only 40 corporations at the time of the revolution. So, yeah, you’re correct. They couldn’t foresee this. You know, when I was speaking in California at Clay’s conference, I come off stage, General Flynn is to go on after me. And General Flynn said, Dave, thanks for taking away 10%, 20% of what I was going to say. And as he said 10 to 20%, we were in the same mindset. And you notice he’s gotten strangely quiet. And when have you ever seen a reform. Now coming from rfk, who I love, where’s his reform efforts? They’ve just gone totally silent.

And the same with Dr. Oz. Yeah. I think what happens, a lot of people have gone silent and have shifted. I’ve shifted into solutions and helping people through this mentally as much as possible because helping myself through it mentally because I think that it’s too hard and that I think a lot of people. That’s why I think the numbers are down across the board in podcasting. People are checking out. It’s overwhelming. America’s given up. Do you agree with that? To some degree. A lot of Americans have just said, I can’t do anything. To heck with it.

Yeah. And I think that’s what you saw with the leadership that you just talked about. I think a lot of the leaders felt like there’s nothing I can do. I think Tulsi Gabbard checked out. I think she was great. I think she just said, screw it. She was awesome. Yep. Yeah, I, I think the people are. I’m not checking out, but I’m not going to do what I did before. I’m doing more of let’s be strategic on how do we protect ourselves? How do we develop and grow? How do we push back when it makes sense? Now, my, my formula for me is repent and follow my faith and then it delves into action where I’m commanded to help other people.

That’s how I’m approaching this. The problem identification I’m making right here. We can’t vote our way out of this. And I agree with Franklin Graham though, we still need to vote because it can make some difference. Okay. And Franklin Graham, the son of Billy Graham. So I will vote in November in the midterms. But I have to hold my nose. And I’ll be really honest with you, I’m holding my nose on some of these races. But the bottom line is, is to me, I’m going to try to keep my spiritual house in order and then try to serve other people.

That’s my answer to all these problems. So people, I don’t want you to think I’m leading and Sarah’s leading some big reform effort. We’re just here to assist as best we can. That’s why I like the plankton project. Because there you go. Exactly. Thank you for humanity. That’s why I’m training in remote viewing, because I want to better my skills. I mean, I’m just doing other things that, and helping people have, I’m not leading some big sphere. I’m, we’re not out there leaning big things. But maybe, I mean with the plankton thing, I think that, but that’s, that’s just helping restore our oceans ecosystem.

I think that’s what all of us need to step up and do. We’re commanded to do that in the Bible. We’re responsible for being good stewards of our resources. Yep. So I think it’s a good, it’s a really noble thing that you’re involved in. Like I said, tell us here at the Common Sense show how we can help and I’ll, and I’ll make this more available to our audience. Well, they can go to oceanintegritygroup.org and I’ll have the links below of those or you’ll, I’ll have it on my channel. We’ll have, I’ve been playing them, but if.

I’ll give you those other, the data and the science reels and it tells people where to go. But okay. I mean if they’re people, I’m telling you, we need some investors to help us go. And this is a great, great investment. I mean no investment is 100%, but this one is pretty good in investment. Territory as far as are you going to get your money back? And the people like the, the Kieran Kelly is the. I told him you saved my life by bringing me something meaningful. And I’m like, I’m only half joking. You know, this is just so good that I’m working on something positive for society.

But he’s the one that led the know cleaning up the plastics. He’s the chairman of Ocean Integrity Group. And then we have Noel Connelly, he’s going to step in as the CEO. He managed a trillion dollar fund out of Dubai. He’s coming in to run this thing. And the we have council who, senior counsel who’s worked with big tech, who’s like, I just want to help this world lead council on big tech projects said I, I’d rather do this. So, I mean, we got some good people. Well, if people aren’t healthy, they’re not going to make good life decisions.

So I think that this is all very noble. Sarah, I’m just so impressed you got involved in this. I truly am. I’ve known you for a long time and we’ve done a lot of stuff together, but this may be potentially the best thing you’ve ever done well for the world. Yeah. Kieran was relentless and just like, he just was relentless wanting me to be involved. And I said finally, I’m like. Because I hired an assistant to help me so that I could be involved. And so I put the reels together and the research and we’re just moving.

It’s. It’s great. I feel like, I feel honored to be involved in something like this. We’re gonna have to do mini updates and I’ll run that, you know, on my social media. I want to do some mini updates on this because this is, this is important stuff. Meanwhile, people don’t succumb to evil. That’s my advice, Sarah, tell people how they can follow your great work. Go to sarawestall.com or go to westall media.com that’s my substack. But follow me and you know, you can listen to me on audio, you can listen to me on. I’m all over the place on audio and platforms and whatever.

And if you’re watching this, whether watching us on my channel or Dave’s, subscribe, I think we’re going to do a collaboration here on YouTube. So subscribe to our channels and, and share it. If you can share these, these are. It’s important to share. Yeah, I. This, this is. We’re in a real turning point. Sorry for the use of the term. Oh, by the way, did you see Turning Point? I got to throw this in before we go. And you listen, my grandmother was Jewish, okay? So let’s, let’s hold the anti Semitic comments. And I don’t besmirch anyone’s faith.

You have to find your own way. I have mine. And. But here’s the bottom line. Andrew Colvitz on with a rabbi, okay? And this is now out there. James Lee ran this and it was on their podcast for tpusa. And they look like they’re going to open Jewish schools. And I’m thinking, wait a minute. And listen, I’m not going to be critical, but TPUSA’s mission is we’re strongly devoutly Christian. You know, I have some questions on that point. But nonetheless, their public Persona were strongly religious and Christian and follow Jesus. And that’s it. In Charlie’s legacy, we’re doing this.

This is what you hear. And then I’m watching this clip and I’m thinking, what’s next? What’s next? Hindus, Buddhists? I mean, where do you draw the line? Well, I don’t have any problem with whatever religion that you are, but if you’re, if you are operating in a way that isn’t consistent with what you’re saying, then, then you need to look at what really is, the motivators behind it. You just encapsulated my. I’m not even being critical. You, you, you basically summarized accurately my amazement. That’s how I would put this. And I could tell you one thing right now.

I knew enough of Charlie and the collaboration stuff, someone we did with Guess on voter fraud, Maricopa county, that he would not approve of this at all. At all. Well, maybe that’s why he’s not there anymore. No, it’s just not just like. Well, I just, you know, I, I just did. I was on Richard Servant show yesterday and I laid it on the line about what I think happened with Charlie and I’ll just say watch the show. It’s. I didn’t pull any punches. I, I feel that when we lost Charlie, we lost a future president. We lost a great man, a great reformer.

He was great for our kids. Our young adults loved him. And he could turn a hostile audience into people who respected him when he left. He was an amazing, amazing talent. Can’t be replaced. And in my gut, I won’t ever rest until I fully think we’re told the truth in some furry creature supposedly running in disguise that we can’t recognize at the top of a roof that should have been covered by the security team. That doesn’t satisfy my answers about what happened to Charlie. No, especially when you pave over the crime scene within 48 hours. Oh.

Especially when you deny ambulance treatment when someone goes down from a gunshot. What the heck? You know what you were thinking That’s. Yeah. Anyway, I digress. Sarah, thanks so much for doing this with me. Let me let this load and you got to show me how to do the technical part okay on this. So let me let it load. It’ll take about four or five minutes because this is long long show and then I’ll call you back and you can walk me through how to do it But I’m not going to post this as a singleton.

I’m going to do clips. Sounds good to me. Okay. Okay. Thanks, Sarah. Thanks, Dave. Be sure to head over to westallmedia.com to see an exclusive extra segment of this show. Sa.
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