WHY THE MISSING MALAYSIAN AIRPLANE WAS NEVER FOUND

➡ Dave Hodges, host of the Common Sense show, interviews investigative journalist Ashton Forbes about his investigation into the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370. Forbes presents a video produced by the US Air Force, which he believes shows the missing plane being circled by unidentified objects before disappearing. He suggests that these objects are controlled by an AI system and that this footage is the reason the plane has never been found. The coordinates shown in the video suggest the plane is near the Nicobar Islands.
➡ On March 12, radar detected a plane flying northwest towards the Nicobar Islands before it disappeared. The Malaysian government, who were the main source of information, were vague and didn’t answer many questions. There’s speculation that the plane didn’t crash but was targeted by advanced technology, possibly involving drones and plasma orbs. This theory is based on two videos showing the plane’s disappearance, which suggest the involvement of covert operations and advanced AI targeting.
➡ The text discusses the concept of teleportation, using the example of a plane disappearing and reappearing years later. It suggests that this could be possible through the manipulation of zero point energy, which holds all of space-time together. The text also mentions the concept of quantum tunneling, where particles can ‘jump’ through barriers, and suggests that this could be scaled up to teleport larger objects. However, the text concludes that it’s unclear where the plane would have ended up after teleportation.
➡ The article discusses a theory about a missing plane, suggesting it may have ended up near Diego Garcia, an island in the Indian Ocean, rather than in the South Indian Ocean where the search was focused. The theory is based on witness accounts of seeing the plane and the fact that debris found in Africa couldn’t have drifted from the search area. The article also speculates about the use of advanced teleportation technology, possibly related to the plane’s disappearance. Lastly, it criticizes the U.S. government for allegedly covering up this information and misleading the public about advanced physics and technology.
➡ In an experiment, a ship was made to disappear using powerful electromagnetic fields, which was initially intended to shield it from radars. However, this resulted in the ship teleporting, causing chaos as the fields weren’t optimized for this purpose. The speaker suggests that manipulating gravity can alter the rate of time, allowing for travel into the future but not the past. They also discuss the possibility of teleportation requiring a receiving station, and the concept of multiple realities or parallel universes.
➡ The text discusses the concept of teleportation and its potential impact on the economy and technology. It suggests that teleportation could revolutionize commerce and shipping, and could lead to the creation of advanced materials and microchips. The text also discusses the role of artificial intelligence (AI) in advancing technology and its potential to surpass current search engines like Google. Lastly, it raises ethical concerns about the use of humans in testing new technologies.
➡ The text discusses a leaked video that reveals a secret technology, possibly related to drones and surveillance. The author believes this technology was used to manipulate public belief about a plane crash in the South Indian Ocean. The author also suggests that this technology could pose a threat to national security and could potentially disrupt the world economy. Lastly, the author speculates on the existence of countermeasures to this technology, possibly involving electromagnetic pulses (EMPs).
➡ The speaker discusses the concept of zero point energy and its potential for creating free energy. They suggest that this technology is being suppressed by governments and corporations who fear its implications. The speaker also talks about the possibility of sentient AI and its potential for surveillance, suggesting that it’s already in use. They also mention a story about a man who claimed to have been abducted by aliens, but now refuses to discuss it, hinting at government involvement.
➡ The text discusses the concept of invisible orbs that can make objects disappear by using different frequencies. This technology is believed to be used by the military and can potentially be a powerful tool for defense. The speaker suggests that this technology could be used to make threats disappear instantly, reinforcing America’s strength and superiority. The speaker ends by warning adversaries not to mess with America, hinting at the devastating consequences of this technology.

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Well, our guest, Ashton Forbes, he’s an, an investigative journalist and as I mentioned, we’re going to talk about the plane. Kind of takes me back to my Fantasy island days when I was a kid and I used to watch that show the Plane. But this is like no other plane you’ve heard about. Ashton, first time appearance on the Common Sense show. We appreciate you coming on, we appreciate the time and I’m really looking forward to this interview. We have a mutual contact in Sarah Westall, she’s a good friend of mine and she said you’ve got to interview Ashton.

She said this stuff is too interesting. So where would you like to start with the plane? Well, do you remember Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 that disappeared without a trace on March 8, 2014 and we’ve been looking for it and still never found it? Well, I Want to go ahead and start by just sharing this video? Right. Right here, if you can pull this up. Because this video here is something called Gorgon Stair, produced by the US Air Force only. And this is the plane that is missing. We’re looking at. I don’t know if you would call it spy surveillance, but Gorgon Stairs, something called Whammy, which is wide area motion imagery, which is why it’s jerky like that.

But whammy’s not technically video because the frame rate’s too low. It turns out that this version of Gorgon Stair, because of the six frames per second that we’re seeing there, can be dated back to around 2014, when the plane disappeared. Nowadays, this Gorgon Stair goes up all the way up to like 30 frames per second. So it’s even better than this. So this is actually a drone at higher altitude filming a plane, Boeing triple seven. I mean, that’s what Malaysian Airlines 370 was from above. And that plane’s flying at low altitude. You’re seeing the ocean in the background.

And then you see what you just saw there. I’ll play it again. The plane disappears. It disappears in a way that’s. Let’s just call it unconventional. There’s no explosion that we’re seeing there. And then you see this person who’s literally recording this whammy footage as, again, like, I want to be clear, this is 100% Air Force Gorgon stare footage. No question, no doubt, perfect point for point, match to all capabilities. The technical aspects of it. Prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt. 00% chance that it’s fake in any regard. And that’s the killer of this video.

The reason why a lot of people have been hesitant to talk to me is that this is, as you’re seeing here, the biggest national security issue of all time. Because what are we seeing circling this plane? What even. What are these things circling this plane? Look at the perfect triangle formation they’re making. Yes. I mean, it’s geometric. Clearly geometric. And my first thought, one of my early thoughts on this and most of my early intuitions has been dead on. This is two years later we’re at now in this investigation, is that that’s AI controlling those orbs.

There’s some kind of AI navigation system inside these orbs, let’s just call them for now, while we’re looking at this video. And it’s a weapon, right? I mean, this is a tracking weapon system. If you look at it, this first orb comes flying in off the right side of the screen at super high speeds. And it doesn’t lock into the plane right away. Watch this. It, like, takes a second, then it locks in. And the second and third orbs. The second one looks like it comes from the water. The third one comes from the side of the screen.

And now they’re immediately in a perfect triangle formation. And then they’re doing this dance around the plane, and they’re encircling it. And we mapped the orbs, and they’re moving in a perfect sinusidal wave pattern as well. So this is definitely an AI controlling the movement of the orbs. And then look at them change orientation. Now they’re vertical around the plane. It’s like they locked in. They figured out the location of the plane in space and time. And then they slow down there. I don’t know if you noticed that for a second. They’re right at the end here.

Watch this. Right when they get towards this cloud in the middle here, they slow down a little bit right there at the end. And then plane’s just gone. Now, the operator, the person who was doing the screen recording what they were doing was they have a bigger field of view. They can see in the background, and they have a window that pops up, and then they can move the window around, and that’s how they’re able to actually track the plane. Even though this is a recording, technically this is a recording, but they also were watching it live.

And so they can move the screen around, and that’s why you see this mouse cursor come onto the screen. So. So this is a smaller window screen recording that they were doing in this video. And so what they do is at the end here, the mouse moves to the top right of the screen because they’re clicking the X button on the screen recording. They close it out right there. See that? Yeah. And then now, the reason why it’s black is because it’s still recording, but it’s recording a window that was just closed. So that’s actually. That right there was proof.

And I think they. They kept this in instead of editing it out to show us. Like, what you’re watching right now is part of the. You’re still watching the original video. This is still the original video for, like, 15 more seconds. So the reason why we haven’t been able to figure this out until now is that from the public perspective, nobody’s ever seen Gorgon Stair footage before. There are no videos of Gorgon Stair footage out on the Internet. And so unless you were Somebody that’s seen one of these classified systems, you wouldn’t know. But if you are somebody, and a lot of people have seen this classified system.

So there’s people watching this right now that know this is real. They know it because they’ve seen this surveillance capabilities. They don’t know about the orbs and the plane, but they’ve seen the surveillance capabilities. So they know that’s real and they know there’s no way anybody faked it. And I mean, that’s really the plane too. So the other bonus is like, even if you were to imagine there’s a reality where somehow somebody faked this, which isn’t practical, then they would have to know that we’re never going to find the plane. How’d they know we were never gonna find the plane? The problem is this video is what happened to the plane.

Like we never found it because of this. That’s it. That’s why we never found it. There it is. And those coordinates in the bottom left you see, that’s the real location of the plane. So we know pretty close where this plane is. Now, whammy footage is like a hundred square kilometers. So 10 kilometers by 10 kilometers. So those coordinates might not be the exact location of the plane, but it’s pretty narrow area. So we know where they pulled this off. And when you look up those coordinates, it’s the Nicobar Islands, the plane just flies in a straight direction from its last known location on the radar plots.

So they released these radar, they said on March 12, okay, we’re going to tell the truth. Now, four days after the plane disappears, they say we saw the plane on radar in the Andaman Sea flying northwest towards the Nicobar Islands. That’s what they said. And they said our last radar plot was at 18:15 UTC. Well, if you fly for about 25 more minutes straight ahead from that location, from the heading of that plane, you run into the coordinates in that video. So let’s start there. There you go. That’s amazing. When I first saw the circular part, I just thought it was part of imposed image just to say, hey, watch the plane.

And then I saw what you said about this taking geometric shape and they maintained a triangle and rotation around the plane. That was amazing. Now, I’m not familiar with the Nicobar Islands. Where are they at? So Malaysia is a peninsula that sticks down off of Asia. And the plane was flying northeast towards Beijing. And it was in over the South China Sea when it went dark, where it just went dark. And this is why there was so much Confusion because then people like, so did it crash in the South China Sea, east of Malaysia? And this is where they said no.

Four days later they came out and said no. We saw it fly back over the country, all the way over the country, and then fly west over to the Nicobar Islands west of Malaysia, on the whole other side of the country. And this is why right away people should have been super suspicious. Why were they saying that the plane disappeared in the South China Sea when they knew the whole time it didn’t really disappear there, that it just went dark there and turned back around? That’s a completely different story. Who was issuing the press releases that you’re quoting? The number one source of information was the Malaysian government and their actual press conferences every single day.

And they answered almost no questions. It’s extremely sketchy. They wouldn’t even answer like whether or not planes can even go dark, which of course they can’t. You can’t just make a plane all go dark to turn the communications off. You’d have to go down into the communications bay. You can’t just. There’s not a knob. You just turn it off. So you either have to not do it or what have you. So I guess the question is, okay, so yeah. And then the other information, all the information I’ve got is open source information. I’ve not used any classified information.

I have not seen behind the veil. Everything I’ve had to do has been figured out for open source. I’ve looked. We found everything though, everything there is online. Open up news articles. You even like alternative media articles about theories about the plane, stuff that was deleted off the Internet. It’s only available in the Internet archives. Everything. And my approach to solving the plane after I saw those videos before I knew it was Gorgon Stair was. Look at all the evidence, pull all the evidence in and try to determine, try to remove the least amount of evidence to come up with the story that makes the most sense.

And the story that I came up with based on that was not a story of a suicidal pilot that flew into the studied ocean topography and decided they wanted to do an eight hour, eight hour flight while he kills everybody somehow on the plane and then slowly like sinks the plane into the ocean or whatever people have dreamt up that made no sense, no more sense. Was a fire event on this plane. Every witness corroborated a fire event. Go ahead. I don’t believe it was a fire event. But here’s my take on what I just saw.

There was a bright flash and the Plane was gone. And so my instinct tells me the flash did not come from within the plane because you would have think there would have been degradation of the plane. They’d have found pieces of it in the ocean below. I, it looked to me like the bright flash was imposed on the plane in some manner. Okay, you are correct. Am I close? Am I close on this at all? Yeah. And I’ve been, I’ve been hiding the kind of the reveal from you here because I don’t think you’re aware, but there is a second video.

There’s a second video, and the first video proves that that’s what happened. The first videos, nobody faked Gorgon Stair footage. That’s Air Force footage. And by the way, that’s. I’m gonna go ahead and say that CIA that’s doing that, even though it’s Air Force capabilities, it’s like two. We’re looking at two drones that are going to be sandwiching the plane. And I don’t think the Air Force can just like do operations on civilian airliners for any reason. The CIA could justify it for covert operations, and that’s what we’re looking at. Right. So here. Oh, go ahead.

I was just going to say here is what is striking to me. If those were drones circling, and I don’t know that they were, but they were rotating it probably 5 to 700 miles an hour and maintaining equidistance from the plane and from each other. And I’ve never seen technology that could do that. Yeah, well, the Air Force has been hiding some pretty, some pretty dope technology. So this is the second video. There are two videos in perfect synchronization from two completely different angles. They had two drones filming the plane. They. They had one drone above recording down with Gorgon Stair.

And this is some kind of litaning targeting pod that we’re looking at that’s got color thermal on it, meaning it’s pretty advanced, which also implies this is a covert operation. You’re pretty close. The plane’s flying low and descending, so it’s actually only moving. Flying about a couple hundred miles an hour in this video. But yes, for the orbs like that to be able to match and lock onto the plane and do what they’re doing. Yeah, it’s. That’s why pretty much has to be advanced AI targeting that’s doing that. There’s not people flying those orbs around. No.

Now they are technically drones, but they’re plasma. So the missing link that the public hasn’t figured out, that the Air Force and CIA and several. I think, actually, honestly, I think every country knows this. I think every country knows it, and I think the public’s basically the only one who doesn’t is that Tesla was right, that there really is an ether, or radiant energy, as he would call it, all around us, and that they figured this out a long time ago. These plasma orbs are free energy. They’re fusion. They’re producing over unity. They’re producing more energy out than they’re getting in them.

You can tell that just from their low temperature on them. Whatever. There is something inside here mechanical. These are basically like a Swiss army watch. And the plasma is almost like a byproduct, but they’re using the plasma in an active way. They’re creating this plasma, ionizing the air and turning into a plasma to create the orbs and whatever’s inside of it. And then I think they’re using the plasma to cool, to like pull, suck the. Let me see if I can get a better frame of this. This one’s decent. There’s these black lines in front of the orbs here.

And I think this is where like the plasma meets the air and where they’re able to actually like rip the hydrogen or ionize the air and use it as a fuel source. So I think it’s called air breathing magnetohydrodynamics. You guys can find a bunch of papers. I’ll just play this instead of kind of rehearsing it all. But the papers you want to look up are the Air Force Research Lab papers in the early 2000s. There are ones about ball lightning. And that’s where they figured out how to stabilize these plasma orbs so that they don’t just fall apart.

And there is another one called teleportation Physics study. There’s another one about dense plasma thrust being used. And then that one references magneto, or the air breathing magneto hydrodynamics. But the dense plasma research paper by Frank Mead and several others, that one actually talks about every application we see in these videos, Every single application talks about gravity, the communication capabilities that you would need to be able to pull this off. So long story short, what you were saying is correct right there. Let me go back to this part. This is the slow mo of the end.

Watch. The orbs blur right here for a second. See them blur? They change modes. For a brief second, they change modes. And once they change modes, they converge. That’s because these orbs are basically just tiny. They’re like large, very, very powerful magnets. That’s what you’re looking at with these orbs. And so once you tilt the magnet, well, it’s going to attract. And once they get too close, then their magnetic fields begin to overlap. And then you have just like if you were jamming magnets together. But these magnets are no ordinary magnets. These are magnets that are so powerful that they quite literally rip through space time.

Quite literally rip through space time. Well, you know, you bring up an interesting point. I want to interject this. Go for it. This is where my mind went. And it’s totally science fiction. But the show manifest, I think it was on Netflix, where a plane is flying, it disappears, comes back in five years, and the implication was it was in an alternate reality, a different dimension. Is that anywhere where this is going, it’s pretty close. Physics doesn’t quite line up there. But art imitates life, life imitates art. So you’re right, it is blipping away. So there must be something else going on.

E equals MC squared. Just normal Einstein math shows us that this plane has to go somewhere. There’s too much mass if you cannot create or destroy energy. So where is that energy going? That little flash of light, that wasn’t nearly enough to account for that whole plane. So this has to be going somewhere else. Now, traversable wormholes are scientifically mathematical solutions to Einstein’s general relativity. Reversible wormholes, meaning people can go through them. So the thing that the science fiction got wrong is that a wormhole, the idea of a black hole and a wormhole are the same, but they’re really more of like a quantum mechanical effect.

Like we have quantum teleportation. So what we need to do to be able to do a wormhole on the large scale, we need to be able to actually quantum teleport. So, so how do we do that? And we have to figure out what is like the example of quantum teleportation. Simple is quantum tunneling. So let me close this out. Quantum tunneling. In quantum tunneling, you just set up like a piece of metal, a semiconductor. And then you have a wall, an insulator, something that energy cannot flow through an insulator. And then you have another semiconductor. So just semiconductor, wall, semiconductor.

And what happens is if you make the insulator thin enough, quantum tunneling occurs, and some electrons just jump the gap. Even though they don’t have the energy level to do it, they just somehow do it. So we know that that teleportation, because that’s a form of teleportation, it went through a Brick wall. If I go through the brick wall next to me or you know, you’re going to say, that’s teleportation. So we say, how do you scale that quantum tunneling up? You say, well, what they do is they, you know, they thin the wall. That’s one way to, to do it.

Well, what’s the wall for? Distance. For us. What’s the wall? I guess space time itself. Right. The space time we’re in is the wall itself. The reason why I can’t teleport to you right now in the screen next to me right now is because there’s a wall between us called distance. So how do they break through that? The answer is there’s this energy that holds all of spacetime together. It holds all spacetime together called zero point energy. Right? And it’s not normal energy because as, at least as we think of it, because you can take us like a cube of space and remove all the light.

No light, no heat, no conventional energy. But the zero point energy is still there. So that means the zero point energy makes up space time. And so then if we push that zero point energy away, what are we left with? We’re left with real nothingness. So now there’s a very simple concept, and I’m going to explain in physics terms, is that we are going to decay the vacuum. We’re going to decay the vacuum from its virtual state, which is the state we experience it right now, our reality, to its true vacuum. We’re going to decay that state down to its true vacuum, to the true nothingness.

And when we do that, that’s a wormhole. That’s teleportation. And how did they do it? How did they do it? How did they get rid of all the zero point energy? Well, you saw it. The orbs converge. They converge. They created their own energy that just pushed out all the zero point energy. And that means they must be entangled or the plane must be entangled to somewhere else. Because that plane decided, I don’t want to be here anymore. I’m gonna go snap over here. Was that the bright flash then? Exactly. And the flash is an ultraviolet or soft X ray release of energy.

That thermal video I was just showing you, that zap was black. So we saw a flash of light. We saw it reflect off the clouds. So that was a flash of light in that Gorgon stair footage. But it’s black in the thermal, meaning it’s non radiative, meaning non. Not temperature, no heat. Huh. Turns out the only, well, ir, infrared or Ultraviolet and soft X rays would show up in black in the thermal. So that’s why we’re seeing that. And what that means is that’s what we would call a negative energy event. Negative energy thought to be, what do they call it? Exotic matter.

That’s just a made up term. They use that to propagandize people to think that it’s not possible when. What did I just say to you before? All it is is going from your false vacuum to your true vacuum where you know you’re decaying your vacuum state from the energy that we have around us to true nothingness. And if you do that, that’s negative energy because you’re going from a higher a ground state that’s up here to a lower ground state. So it turned out negative energy wasn’t ever exotic matter. Whatever crap the academics talk about, who are all phonies by the way, 100% phonies.

The fact they never figured this out is just embarrassing. It turned out it was just a matter of thinking about the problem differently. Thinking about it more like an ocean of energy that we’re just not tapped into. You know, my simple mind and what little knowledge I have from reading people like Michio Kaku is I’m wondering if we’re looking at a three dimensional reality and the brain plane trans traversed into a fifth dimensional time space, different reality. And I’m saying that awkwardly because I’ve never seen anything like this before, but it reminds me of the teleportation experiments in Leipzig, Germany.

And I believe it was around 2008 where they took an inanimate object and teleported it across a long laboratory hallway. And they actually had bilocation, if you’re familiar with it, you could see it in both locations momentarily. And then the original location disappeared. Is that at all related to what we’re seeing? Definitely, definitely. They were playing around with it because what they realized is that Einstein was wrong about the thing that he won Nobel Prize for, is that Einstein with the photoelectric effect won the Nobel Prize by claiming that light must be a packet of waves.

We’re going to call this a particle. It’s going to have this particle like interaction. And we did that because we couldn’t explain why when we shot light at like a piece of metal that the kinetic energy didn’t match the kinetic energy that was being shot at it. And if I increase the intensity of the light, it didn’t increase the intensity of the electrons that were bouncing off the metal. And you go, wait, that doesn’t make sense. If I push something harder, it moves faster. Why is that not happening? So they had to come up with some other reason.

So what Einstein thought is, well, there are these packets and you need to make the packet bigger or smaller. And if you make the packet bigger or smaller, then it’ll change it. And how do you make the packet bigger or smaller? You change the wavelength. You don’t change the intensity. You don’t change the brightness. You change the color. You change the wavelength of it. And that’s what changes, causes that. So what’s the real answer to that question? Einstein was wrong. I got it. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I was. I’m making an emphatic point. The. The what? The real answer is resonance.

Okay. Resonance effect is what’s happening. Is that the reason why you’re getting. The reason why the frequency change changes the kinetic energy that comes off the metal is because of resonance. It’s all about getting your waves to line up. Crudely put, it would be a frequency effect. Right? Yeah. 100 energy, frequency and vibration. Well, a lot of the quantum scientists I’ve read believe the different dimensions are separated by frequencies or what you’re saying here, resonance. And, and I completely am on board with that. But. But this is. I’m probably going to ask you a question that no one can answer, that we know of, but where the heck did the plane go? Yeah, that’s not one I can answer.

That’s one that the United States needs to answer. Right. I mean, I have my speculations. I mean, I think the plane ended up somehow at Diego Garcia. Did it get teleported directly there somewhere else? There’s. There’s evidence that will line up toward. I mean, all the evidence lines up towards Diego Garcia. French do gain. What makes you. What makes you say that? It does make sense, but what makes you say that? There were some island. The strongest evidences were some islanders that saw the plane in the early morning hours after the plane disappeared. And they were kind of covered up.

They weren’t like just. The investigators just dismissed them with no looking into it. But there’s a bunch of people on a small island just north of Diego Garcia that saw the plane with. With steam coming out of the back of it, flying low. They saw the red and white stripe of Malaysian Airlines, like it was definitely the plane. Okay, okay. And it got dismissed because, I mean, I spoke to Florence, to Changi, who was one of the investigators, because it was coming from the wrong direction. It was coming from the west, according, and then flying south.

And they needed to be coming from the east. So they made up some weird excuse that it must be some other weird plane that definitely was not. I fact checked it, it was not. So that’s the strongest evidence. And then the debris that was found, the debris that was found, this is the biggest, the craziest thing, so much misinformation out there. There is no possible way, no physical possible way the debris that was found in Africa could have come from the search area that they’ve been searching for 11 years. Just, just think about that for a second.

How insane is that? There’s actually no way. It’s so far away. They have to drift like three times faster than the most ideal circumstance when they actually tested debris in the water. Like the debris that they tested at Most only drifted 2km in a 24 hour period to get to Africa in like just over a year or two years. It’s like five to seven kilometers every day in the same direction. So it’s just absurd to even think that’s even possible. And all the debris was found in Africa. None was found in Australia, which is where all of it should have shown up.

So the funny part about the, how bad this cover up was for the United States government is like somehow everybody just turned off their brains, like entirely turned off their brains. Now what’s a much better location for the debris than the South Indian Ocean where they have been searching? Diego Garcia. Have you looked at Diego Garcia on a map? Relative to the ocean currents, it’s like exactly where all the debris would flow and it’s a much easier path and less time to get there. So the plane definitely there ended up at Diego Garcia or like somewhere near there in the water where nobody’s allowed to like look somehow, because that’s the only way I can imagine nobody found it.

Well, maybe someone has. Doesn’t sound like you put a lot of faith in the debris field. So if there’s not an identifiable, let me be clear, there’s no debris field that was found. Now what they found was a few pieces of plane that washed ashore. And that’s a significant difference because a plane that’s the size of a Boeing Triple seven, it doesn’t crash without leaving a debris field. Like there is no hiding in a debris field of that size. Exactly. Ocean and the wa. And the, you know, wherever it lands is going to be found or crash is going to be.

So people should have realized right away that it just landed somewhere. I mean, that’s the only explanation. Unless you think it got zapped away like I do. Yeah, Zapped away with a possible location arrival of Diego Garcia. I understand what you’re saying. So it sounds to me like it’s likely that the plane arrived somewhere intact. But what do we know anything about the effect of something like this on living organisms like human beings? Yeah, I thought you might say that. Yeah. I mean, the bigger question is I, I don’t think anybody lived. And we, it is really speculating like even though wormholes are humanly traversable and I think in theory people can survive them and will survive them at some point.

I don’t think this technology is like, I don’t think they’ve been hiding this technology, like teleportation technology for like 75 years. I think they’ve known about the science for that long. But the teleportation technology is relatively new. I also don’t think it’s necessarily an experiment, but I don’t think they minded that they were also going to get a lot of good data off of doing that at the same time. But I think that the people probably were already dead from the fire on the plane. So all as witnesses were right. There was a fire. We can actually see the fire in both those videos.

There’s smoke coming off the plane, it’s coming from the forward cargo bay and then it’s pumping out the AC exhaust ports out of the plane. And the fire is probably just a diversion to like turn the plane away or whatever they were doing in this operation. And the fire, the smoke from the fire was probably going to asphyxiate everybody on the plane. Before that happened. I did the Math. Hour and 20 minutes from when the plane went dark and the batteries would have gone off the to when we see the plane in the Nicobar Islands on fire, flying low, presumably about to land in the ocean.

That looks like it’s what it’s about to do. In those videos, you’re. The oxygen mask only lasts about 20 minutes. So you just do the math. There’s basically no way anybody could have survived that except for maybe the pilot, co pilot and whoever else had like one of the crew hoods or whatever. Pilot hoods, wow. It’s, you know, this is where my mind also goes. My father was retired from the Navy and he was intel six months before retirement. We retired with full retirement, went to work with a captured German scientist and they were reverse engineering theoretical physics, not laboratory work, but the actual paperwork.

And then he was highly compartmentalized. But he told me years afterwards when he told me about the work, he said, none of this stuff’s Ever shown up in NASA in a real way that we knew could have had. They developed it. And I said, well, what do you make of that? He goes, there is quantum physics and there’s Newtonian physics. And a decision was made after World War II to separate the two and keep the quantum from the people as long as possible. Do you agree with his assessment? I think that’s exactly what they did. Exactly.

I think that they figured this out back in World War II with the Manhattan Project. I think they’ve known for that whole time. I think they figured out that. That just. What they figured out was that zero point energy, you know, if you really distill it down, what’s the real thing they figured out? It’s that the space time has this energy to it. And that potentially, if you jiggle that energy, Resonate, resonate it, vibrate it, that it can amplify, amplify it to infinity, potentially amplify it to a degree where you can make a wormhole. And then it was just a matter of like, working behind the scenes to advance the material science to a level where you can utilize it in a useful way.

And I think they. And then the question to me is just like, okay, did they figure it out from aliens, or was it really a matter of, like you said, going back to Tesla and then them just kind of hiding this branch of physics, this whole side of physics from the public long enough where they could get out of control with it. And now we don’t even recognize it, even though it is just straight up human technology. We just don’t recognize it because we’ve diverged so far from it. And then the last thought is they have deliberately led us astray.

The wording that they use, like even the stuff like using exotic matter for negative energy is crazy. To me, that seems like deliberate wordplay meant to psychologically brainwash people. Because if I tell you something’s negative energy, it’s much easier. Easier to think about context in which what I was explaining to you in terms of the ocean of energy versus trying to tell somebody it’s exotic matter. What the hell is exotic matter? They. They make it literally sound the, like the most obtuse thing ever. Because there is no such thing as negative matter. It’s just negative energy is just normal energy.

It’s just in this zero point energy in space time, like squeezing a sponge and releasing it. So, yeah, they’ve definitely been leading us astray. Wow. Just. It’s just mindboggling. I’ll tell you it for my money. What I think I observed in those two videos was a first cousin experiment to the Philadelphia Experiment, alleged to be back to Tesla. That’s so funny you bring that up because that was, that’s like the number one thing I look back at where we don’t have the documentation to ever say like 100% did that happen? But I absolutely believe that’s what occurs.

That that was not just looking back to Tesla’s looking at the Einstein. Thomas Thomson Brown as well, and Thomas Thompson Brown was also another one of these inventors that’s been like just written off. But he figured out that electromagnetism is connected to gravity. And yeah, I think that what happened during that experiment was they accidentally figured out bending space time because what they were doing is they were trying to block their ship from, from all radars using very powerful electromagnetic fields. Like imagine like having two of those balls of plasma, but they’re fixed to your craft, fixed to your battle cruiser, and now you’re going to turn them on and they’re thinking, oh, this is going to shield us from the radar, from the enemy radar so nobody can see us.

We’re going to become invisible. But what did it really do? It pushed out all the zero point energy out of the way, made the boat teleport instead of, and they went, oh crap, what did we just do? And the worst part was it wasn’t optimized for that. So the fields, the magnetic fields weren’t overlapping in the way to have there be a perfect dead zone in the middle that you need to transport something. So what happened? People were stuck in walls and all kinds of crazy stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Because the last thing you want to do if you go through that wormhole like that, you don’t want to be on the edge, you don’t want to be half in, half out.

You want to be 100% in on the safe zone or out on the other side looking in. So for your money, just educated guess here, the plane blinks out and let’s assume the destination was Diego Garcia. Does it land safely and does it happen instantaneously? What’s your feeling about that? Yeah, I mean, I guess your question is more about one of inertia reduction. I think that the plane came out at the same speed, in my opinion, and was in the air and then they flew it to Diego Garcia and I think it ended up there. I think they have underground hangar or something probably.

I mean, I have no idea, I’ve never been there. But looking at the base seems like kind of Base that would have some underground stuff. And we found a bunch of contracts early on in the investigation that would imply they’d have some very good underground construction going on. So I think they probably took it there, either repainted it or took it apart, threw in there, destroyed it, whatever they had to do. I mean, that’s pretty dark to even think about, honestly. What was I going to say? Oh, but the real interesting part is about win, when you know, you, you, you brought up manifest turns out manipulating space, time, time travel.

I mean maybe I’m gonna end up being wrong about this, but time is a dial. It’s a dial. It’s not a situation where you go forward and back linearly in time. You, you can change your dial of time, your rate of time. So I can speed up my rate of time or slow it down a lot. So you can actually do that with gravity manipulation. What that means is you can go to the future. Because if I were to slow my time down, my time’s going to pass and all of a sudden everything around me is going to look like it’s going super speed.

And then I’m going to come out of the bubble, the time bubble. It’s going to be a thousand years in the Future. That’s real, 100% real. Now can I go in a time bubble and go back to 1957? No, no, I can’t because that would break causality. So you can though achieve faster than light travel as we just saw there. But breaking actual causality must have some correction mechanism. Why? Because we’ve already just saw teleportation occur and the universe is still intact. The universe is still intact right now. Right. So the fact that we’re still intact means that there’s not some sort of reverse causality thing happening.

Now. Maybe we end up being wrong and there’s some kind of Mandela effect, has some explanation. And there is thing and also one of the, you know, I don’t want to throw it out entirely. There’s also the possibility that there’s multiple worlds. Is a real explanation that like when you do a time travel event like that, you go to a different reality or you split the, split the timeline or something. So if there is a many world solution, then now there can be infinite realities with anything, anything happening. Those people could have gone to a different one.

You’re talking about the parallel universes. In a time event causes the split into the second reality. Okay, I’m a, I’m a victim of my past observations. So this is going to probably sound Very primitive. But if you look at the show Stargate SG1, you had a sending station at the base in Colorado Springs at Cheyenne Mountain. And then to teleport to a foreign land light years away, you had to have a receiving station. Another Stargate, in this instance, do you suspect that the teleportation was on one end, but there was a receiving station wherever that plane went? Yeah, and I’m almost certain at this point, and that’s why my moniker is now Four Orbs turned out to be pretty useful, actually.

I didn’t know my last name was going to line up that well. But yeah, it was my buddy Dave Rossi actually that first pushed the idea for me. And he actually has said he’s a defense contractor and he said that he’s seen teleportation in the labs. He actually said it when we went on tim Pool on January 5, 2024. If anyone wants to check that out. I think someone can find the record out there somewhere. I think it might have got pulled because of that whole tenant scandal, but it should be out there somewhere. So anyway, he said he’s seen that, that that stuff happened.

And the reason why it’s important is that if you think about this idea of pushing the space time away, well, where are you going to end up? And does it even matter at that point, if you’re pushing the space time away to the true nothingness, I think we should assume that the true nothingness, all points are connected. Like you can pop up anywhere. And to your point, then what would be, what do you need? You need an anchor, you need a beacon, you need something to say, this is where I’m going to pop up. Because otherwise you’re just in the void, you’re nowhere.

So what I think is happening there in that quantum tunnel is that they’re entangled. Those orbs are entangled to another orb. And imagine they have equal and opposite charges. So the three orbs, let’s say, add up to three positive charge and you have a fourth orb with three negative charge on it. And so what happens is when you reduce the barrier, then all of a sudden they’re going to come together. They want to come together. So wherever that plane is going to show up is where that fourth orb is with the opposite charge of the three orbs.

And when they come together, they create this super powerful charge and it’s basically like sending out a homing signal saying, where’s the beacon? Boom. And then the plane is going to, in my opinion, instantly appear on the other side. But what does Instant really mean? That’s the thing. The problem is, remember, time is a dial. So instant doesn’t really mean anything anymore. So what’s instant? To one, the viewer might be. Time might go by for the other. So for the people in the plane, if anyone’s alive, it would be instantaneous. They’re just going to instantly appear on the other side.

But from our perspective of the outside, maybe a few hours went by, maybe they disappeared on one side, three hours go by, and now all of a sudden they’re in the Maldives and they pop out flying in the air. So they could be alive in a different reality, is what you’re saying. Well, I don’t want to, I really don’t want to say that because, man, people will, you know, especially imagine being a family member. I hear you. I know, I, I get it. Sensitive. I get it. You know, you’ve moved on and like, yeah, I don’t want to be like, hey, they’re, they’re, they’re living free in this other reality, in happy land.

No, I’d say hypothetically. Hypothetically is what. What I’m saying here. Hypothetically. My opinion is no, actually, I’m on the pan. I’m probably gonna end up being wrong about this. But my view is time is going to be deterministic and that there is no other dimension or other reality. That the other dimension is just our representation of that zero point energy. But it’s not a place that you go and hang out to. It’s just where the energy comes from. To me, that the metaphysical aspect is more of. That’s where our consciousness comes from. Like what are we as physical beings? To me, that energy represents where we come from, why we exist, why life exists, is that that energy is itself conscious.

It’s. It’s a being. Maybe it’s God. Yeah, my, my. One of my backgrounds academically is in psychology, and you just brought up the concept for me, the collective unconscious with Carl Young, where it’s some hypothetical place, everything happens at one time, and you can tap into that mentally. Young didn’t say at the right frequency, but that would be my phrase for it. So when you, you’re talking about telepathy, extra sensory perception, that kind of thing, I think that enters into that domain. I felt that way for a long time. The other thing I wanted to ask you though, is this.

In the Stargate show. Stargate. Transmission of people to another Stargate. Okay, but you’d have to travel an incredible distance. That’s impractical to build another Stargate to have a sending and receiving station. So you’d be limited on how far you could go out in the universe. Now the way they handled on the show, as they said, some mythical group called the Ancients built the system, so they just learned how to use the system. So I’m suspicious that, or I suspect this, that this exists, but it has to exist within the boundaries of which we could travel to practically.

You know what? I like you a lot, Dave. You are a smart guy, man. And this is. I’m glad we played this interview out from the perspective of you kind of going through the thought process because I think people will enjoy it as well. I had the exact same view and I came out from perspective of what if this technology is not perfect? What if there’s like, what if there’s limitations to the technology? What would those limitations be? And the first one I came up with is, well, if there’s a fourth Orb, you got to send that orb somewhere and maybe it has to be constantly entangled to the third, those three orbs.

So you got to maintain that entanglement the whole time. So yes, now you’re realizing, oh, this isn’t going to be sending them to the Andromeda galaxy. I mean, it’s not even sending them to the moon. This is actually like short range teleportation that they’re doing because they’re limited by the location of the fourth orb. But it’s still very powerful. And you still think of the application, it’s still God tier technology. And once again, it is free energy too, that the orbs themselves are a fusion plant, one that can float freely and utilize the air itself as the resource, which.

There’s plenty of that going around on this planet. Yeah, but here’s another place where my mind goes with this is that the effect on commerce and the shipping of goods. If you could refine this technology and you could send it and receive it in identical state, it would really revolutionize the economy of the planet. And that this is where I would say, respectfully, you might be thinking about a little bit too small, is that we’re looking at Star Trek replicators in our future. We’re looking at actually building things that 3D printing things at the atomic scale, like actually one atom at a time.

And when you do that, you can actually make metamaterials that have properties that some properties that we’ve never seen, properties that are actually in some cases extremely unusual. Whereas right now we’re mostly just limited to like what did the Earth produce naturally from these star explosions? And stuff like that. And we just have to do our best to refine it. And then we’ve been working on miniaturizing it, and we call that microchips, and that’s what a microchip is. We’re just taking tiny little elements, tiny, tiny little bits of them, and aligning them in certain geometric patterns and things like that to produce effects that we want.

And so you’re going to see this overlap of metamaterials and microchips technology. As you get smaller and smaller and smaller, they become more and more and more capable, and we can essentially do anything. And then at some point, we get to the part, especially with. They call them coherent matter wave beams, where they can actually transport individual atoms one at a time. So it’s almost like you have like a. A nail gun that shoots one atom at a time, and now it can just have something printing perfect microchip for you, you know, and that’s where things are just going to go off the rails, because then everybody’s going to have Star Trek replicators.

Oh, my God. This is. I hope I’m not. I actually hope I’m not really around for that part. Oh. But, you know, here’s what’s interesting to me. The global economy is failing because of fiat currency. Simply put, okay, this could correct all that. And I can see maybe why there’s such a fascination from governments in AI. Oh, yeah, yeah. It’s funny, because you’re putting all the same connections together, right? You’re going, oh, now it makes sense. Why are they so concerned about AI? Why is AI come out of nowhere? Well, first of all, they’ve had AI longer than it’s been made public.

And those videos are proof of it, actually, because those orbs are using AI to move. And my guess is they were using AI to, like, figure out the science, too. Like, they knew the science was real, but then once they put in AI, it started just spitting out the magic, I’m guessing. And so they’ve been advancing AI behind the scenes, and they probably already knew that AI was going to reach this singularity that we’re starting to see now publicly, you know, 20, 10, 20 years later. And so AI is going to be the future, you know, that’s why, like, did you notice this actually went kind of unnoticed? But Elon Musk’s Grok AI, or Xai, they call it, bought all of Twitter like it was, and it was valued more than Twitter was valued.

The AI was valued more than Twitter was valued. I just thought that was incredible. Like, Whoa. Out of nowhere, the XAI is worth like, I think it was worth like 80 billion and Twitter was worth like 40 or 60 or something like that. And you think about that. And I use AI now all the time. And I’ve already realized that AI is just instantly obsoleted. Google, like Google is obsolete now. I don’t go to Google to search why, I just ask the AI and the AI will even give me links to the things that I’m looking for.

As long as you ask the right questions, it’s only going to get better. That’s, that’s amazing. Now I want to go back to something I brought up earlier because I think I can ask a better question. Now that we’ve talked about transporting humans this way, I wonder if it’s possible to make it safe for biological entities to traverse these distances. Yeah, yeah, I think it is. So they’re definitely at least trying in the video that there’s like a magnetic null point between the orbs. That’s why they’re that perfect triangle formation. They create something called magnet inversion.

So the magnets actually come together but they get stuck at a certain range where they, they find a perfect equilibrium. That’s why they create that triangle. And this will also create a null point in the center, which is why they have this zero point right on the plane, is that they’re creating that null point on the plane so that the plane can safely traverse through it. So yeah, I actually think that the people could have survived that exact event there. And it goes to show, I don’t think that’s the first time they did it. I don’t doubt you get it right on the first try.

So they’ve probably already had it tested and known that it was generally going to work. Maybe they didn’t test on humans yet. I don’t know. I mean, I can only speculate. But yeah, ultimately I think it will work. And even I would go so far as to say ultimately we’ll probably figure out how to entangle things to far away points without having to send something there. And then once that happens, we can receiving mechanism. Okay, I get that. Well, what probably happens, we’ll find an existing entangled point through the zero point energy. Like we’ll somehow figure out a way to like find a ripple or something that existed there and, and use that as entanglement to as the beacon.

That’s probably how it’ll play out. You don’t want to end up in a bulkhead like they did the Philadelphia experiment though. Yeah, I mean, I’m not gonna be volunteering to be the first person. No, no, I would. You know, here’s what really upsets me about this whole thing. Okay. They could have taken a remote controlled plane, a large drone, for example, and done the same thing, or even put test animals on there like they used to do in the early space flights, and not destroy human beings. That really bothers me. That tells me that the people that control the technology are inherently evil.

Yeah. And it’s not a matter of just testing it, though. Like, that’s the thing, right? Is they didn’t just. They’re not that evil. This, the way this would have got signed off on is that this is like some counter espionage. This is China versus the United States. This is the United States just like flexing its muscles. This is basically us saying, don’t mess with us. We own you. We have super technology that you can never dream of in your wildest dreams now. I mean, kind of eggs on their face because the video’s leaked and now everybody saw exactly how it works.

But until that point, that would have been a pretty big flex. But obviously it was a huge mistake in retrospect, because the videos leaked. It does make you wonder what other stuff they’ve been hiding that they’re doing, if they’re doing crazy stuff like this that they’re getting away with. Because, I mean, literally, they had everybody in the world believe in this plane crash in the South Indian Ocean. People still believe it. Even though they searched for 11 years and found nothing, they still believe it’s down there somewhere, which I just laugh at. Like, are you out of your mind? But.

Well, I can tell you this. I think. I think you’re right on the money about a show of force. It was a demonstration event in part because if you go back, same president, same second term, you had the rods from God with the precursor to the Space Force when they were the secret Space Force. And I know for a fact that existed. I know a couple people that were in it and they dropped these rods on China because they were pissed off at China for whatever. I don’t remember the actual anger, but it was a demonstration event.

This is what we can do to you from space. So wise up. And then this happens in the same time proximity within the same administration. Yeah, and hostility. It got like, tensions broke down or, you know, a piece. You know, we used to be like, chill with China, I think in their early 2000s. And then ever since now, they’ve been super adversarial. And I always kind of wonder, why are we all of a sudden so adversarial towards China. Well, it’s because they’re catching up and they’re going to figure it out. And we see them as a threat and a future threat.

Now realize, like, look at how powerful this technology is. You have to put this in context. Like, keep in mind that, you know, I don’t even agree with myself on this. Like, in terms of releasing it is. It’s dangerous, it’s national security issue. It’s free energy. It’s going to collapse the world, you know, the economy. There’s a lot of implications. And the last thing I want is our adversaries to have it as well. Which is why I’m kind of glad I got the Gorg found out about Gorgon Stare, because it means I don’t really have to expose the super super weapons or whatever if I don’t want to, but I might.

How would you explain Gorgon Stare to someone who’s never heard of it? It’s just camera underneath a drone flying above, up high, there’s a bunch of videos you guys can find about it where they show, like, because there was this big fear that they were going to use this domestically. And in fact, I’m sure they are. But like during protests and stuff, I think one of these reapers got deployed and they were using this program. So it’s just a massive wide field of view. That’s why it’s a low frame rate. That’s why actually the clouds don’t look like they’re moving that much either, because it’s taking, I think, 385 pictures at once every second or like six times per second or whatever the frame rate is.

And then the software is the real king, right? Because that data is being beamed to a computer. And then the software is taking all those photos and piecing it together into the software that you log into where now you can track. And they’re doing it in real time. So they’re actually watching in real time while that video is playing. So you imagine how much data that is. It’s a just unfathomable amount of data that they’re. That they’re doing that with. So that’s the idea of Gorgon Stare. And Gorgon Stair is just absolute proof the videos are real.

Like, it’s such good proof that I can just sit back, relax, and just start to laugh because it proves there’s no way anybody could have fake the videos. It proves that these cloud photos that people are trying to use to debunk the videos that we found only exist on 2016, two years after the videos were out. People are saying that somebody used these cloud photos to make the videos. Well, it proves those cloud photos were planted by the CIA on the Internet to be used to debunk the videos if they ever got popular later on. So the videos are like the biggest blessing I could have ever.

Or the Gorgon Stair is the biggest blessing I could have ever, ever hoped for. And it’s 100% Gorgon stair. I even went back through. I was looking through my old photos on my phone from when people like message me, like credible people messaged me stuff, and I found this message looking for something else. Actually, I’m just going to read it says, good morning, Ashton. I sent the videos to a friend of a friend who’s currently in the Air Force and working with controlling drones for the military. He watched it and also sent it to some of his buddies in the Air Force.

They all agree it’s military drone footage, but it’s older technology making the drone video that he’s talking about, the Whammy video, he’s talking about Gorgon Stair, they say it is several iterations updated since this footage makes sense. Since it was 10 years ago, they had no idea what the orbs are or what’s happening in the video, but it looks authentic to them based on their experience. Yeah, so I. The funniest part about that is I did not understand the context of that message last year when I got it. I got that last year in April. And now, now I figured out whammy.

I figured out the Gorgon stair, I figured all that stuff and I went, oh my God, that’s an old version of Gorgon Stair that we’re looking at. And now they have higher frame rate versions. That person was legit, their sources were legit. And that means there’s tons of people that have seen Gorgon Stair footage. So this has got to be the worst kept secret out there. Anyone that’s seen Gorgon Stair footage is going to look at that and immediately know it’s legit. And that proves the whole thing’s real. And the fact that everyone’s been silent about this for two years, I’ve been investigating this, Nobody said a word about it.

Goes to show that the level of control the government has over the media, over some of these podcasters like Joe Rogan, Sean Ryan, they’re not organically not having me on. They have insane people on all the time. They’re not having Me on because they’re protecting national security because they got told not to. Because this is the biggest leak of national security and ever in the history of world, ever. This is amazing. You brought up the word or the phrase national security and I agree. So you’ve got President Trump flying back on Air Force One doing an interview with Sean Hannity and what would be to prevent this triangle of orbs from encapsulating Air Force One and making it disappear? Funny you saw that picture too, huh? Yeah, I was wondering about that when I saw that image of them flying with the Air Force One in tow.

And I kept wondering, this is probably why they’re afraid, huh? Like, and they probably have other stuff too. Those planes are mostly just for show. They got the good stuff, was watching, you know, secretly behind the doors. That’s just the, the stuff to, you know, scare people off. There must be a counter. There must be a counter to this technology. Yeah, we’ve probably figured out a counter. Our enemies probably haven’t though, so they, they’ve probably been working on one. I don’t even really want to go too far into speculating that because truthfully I don’t even feel comfortable on the revealing national security weapons.

I’ll just say it’s probably EMP based. Electromagnetic base would be the way that you’re going to handle, I would agree, like plasma orbs coming at you. So the newest weapons will end up being scalar based weapons and EMP based weapons will probably be like the future. Do you think the, there is an interaction between EMP and negating this technology? Yeah, I mean it’s the, like the zero point energy is electromagnetic in nature so Absolutely. I think that, you know, I don’t know exactly what you would do, I haven’t thought about it too much. But manipulating the zero point energy is certainly a way you do it.

So what, this is what I was saying, I put it in the context of like flying saucers. You know, people say like, oh you got this flying saucer, how, how is this flying saucer crashing? They’re like, isn’t, aren’t the aliens super advanced? Why is it crashing? Well, because it’s not invincible technology. They’re just surfing on a gravity wave. So if I tilt you, hit you while you’re surfing, you’re going to fall over. So the question is, how do you hit somebody while they’re surfing on a gravity wave? You know, and so if you manipulate the zero point energy you can potentially do that.

So if I were to mess with those drones, I wouldn’t try to. I wouldn’t try to attack them conventionally. I’m not going to shoot a rocket at those drones. I’m going to try to manipulate whatever they’re using as an energy source. And then that makes, that makes a lot of sense. But you also. I shouldn’t talk like this though. I’m going to end up getting black bagged. I feel like by at least some. Some government’s going to blackbag me. Okay, well, we can share the bag. But let me share with you something. I’m in Arizona and something that happened back in the 70s.

Guy named Travis Walton was on a logging crew up in the muggy on rim, mountainous rim forest, rim of Arizona. And his friends all saw him being beamed aboard a spacecraft. This is not imaginary event. There were too many eyewitnesses. He reappears five days later. But what he talked about initially is what he’ll never talk about now. I find that interesting. His initial interviews said there were Air Force colonels and majors and stuff that were there talking to him with what I think were droids. I think they were androids. But he said they were aliens like the traditional grays.

And that was his experience. Now today he softens that up very severely. And I think that he got the word would be my guess. But to me, this could explain alien abductions. This is how you would do it. Good. And that part I don’t really know. When it comes to the alien, I say alien in quotes because. Yeah, I get what you mean. It could be. It could be us doing it. Yeah. And that’s why I say when it comes to aliens, non human intelligence, man. It’s funny that even knowing all of that, everything I just laid out, I actually know even less about the answer to the alien thing.

Somehow after all this, you would think you would know more about it because I’m looking at plasma orbs that are floating around teleporting a plane away. But I still don’t even know if aliens are just a psyop or if aliens are actually real at this point. What I will say is that if aliens are real, it’s probably gonna be a lot weirder than we imagine. Now, I would say that they could either look exactly like us where it’s like weird to the point where like, oh, we were the aliens the whole time, we should have figured it out.

Or they might just be so different that maybe the plasma orbs can be sentient, maybe plasma can be sentient itself. Because if consciousness comes from the zero point energy and it’s just this floaty ball plasma that’s stable. Maybe it can be conscious too. So that’s how I kind of look at the. The problem is that I’m expecting the weirdest result. Ashton, I think you’re going to find this interesting. Bill Pollock, late Bill Pollock was my mentor in this business for a while. XCIA was an Air Force intel before that, Vance Davis, NSA attached to NATO. And these are two of my best friends.

Vance still is. And Bill was a genius and he was working on zero point energy. And we hooked up with Enron as a group. And Enron then was headed by Ken Lay and the plan was to build a zero point energy community in the San Luis Valley of Colorado. I was in on some of these calls, so I know this is real. One time Ken Lay was on the call. Mostly it was his subordinates and he said, well, we all better have our kill switches in place because we’re going to piss off a lot of people.

Okay. It wasn’t two weeks after he said that is when the government smashed Enron into pieces with these accusations of impropriety, which I never believed. But they did not want zero point energy to be developed in this community. They flat crushed it. And they told Bill that if you ever go forward with this again, you won’t be around to talk about it. I mean he got threatened within an inch of his life. I know the, the free energy aspect is what is the big thing they’re keeping secret. There you go. It’s back to what my dad said.

They don’t want the quantum out there. They want to repress it as much as possible and when it does surface, they want to bastardize it so no one can really get on the trail. Yep. Because yeah, they figured out the zero point. They figured out the free energy from zero point energy. And this is what’s funny. Here’s a good story for you, is that when I figured out that the answer was free energy, I want to say it was somewhere around like February of last year, January of last year. So like a little over a year from now or from ago.

I remember just putting the pieces together and realizing how similar it was to the fallout TV show where the whole point of the fallout TV show was that the, the, the corporations, megacorps that control the world had figured out free energy but they shelved it because they couldn’t make any money off of it. And I realized looking at those orbs that they must have an energy source. How are they doing all this crazy stuff? How are they teleporting the plane, it must be basically an unlimited energy source. And that’s when I realized, oh, that’s the real secret here, the big cover up.

Is it Malaysian Airlines of those videos? It’s not Malaysian Airlines. It’s not even the teleportation that’s happening. The big cover ups. Free energy. Those orbs are free energy. They mean that all this fusion crap that’s been going on publicly is all a sham. They’ve had fusion cracked forever. And this, these public tokamaks and Sphere Max, they were never meant to solve the problem. They were never meant to be efficient. It’s almost like the solar panels where like solar panels are like limited to only 20% efficiency, even though they could get like 80% or higher efficiency. It’s like that.

And that’s exactly what they’re doing with fusion power because they just can’t. The reason why they’ve suppressed fusion is they can’t let people have free energy. And there’s no way to get fusion out without revealing that free energy is the source. Well we know that from Tesla when he was told by Westinghouse now we need to put a meter on everything, we can’t have free energy. But you know, I’ll take this to another speculative level. Perhaps those orbs, AI and sentient AI that’s connected to each other. Yeah, well you’re hitting all the nails in the head.

I haven’t talked about Sentient for like a year actually. But we did find sentient. Sentient was declassified 2013, 2011, somewhere in that range. And our satellites and everything are being controlled by an AI. So they already were being controlled back then and it’s only gotten way more out of control now. If you look up asterisk, Sentience, kind of old news. Look up asterisk. Now as for Lockheed Martin, they are actually giving like battle plans and strategic advice now. The AI is and they’ve integrated the weapon systems into it. I mean Skynet’s already basically in charge at this point.

Wow, that’s. I have heard elements of this, but not as succinctly as you just put it. Oh, the Gorgon stair too. The Gorgon stair now as well has AI capabilities. So they can just use that and have the drones loiter like non stop and it’s beaming the data, the computers. So then the second drone goes up when the first one comes down. So they have 24, 7 persistent coverage and the AI that’s monitoring that can do all the same stuff. So actually the AIs are so good that even if it doesn’t know that I’m Ashton Forbes, I’m just the guy that was wearing the green shirt on whatever today is.

They would be able to track wherever I’ve ever been. Like always. It can track thousands of targets at once and keep a track of where they were at all points. So it actually gets so crazy to the point where you can imagine a scenario, real scenario, where let’s say I’m a commander and I get a page that says Ashton has deviated from the normal schedule. And then I get a pop up alert. Maybe it comes on my cell phone and I click on it, open it up, and then there’s a list of the activities that I did today that deviate from the normal schedule of where I normally go.

Or something like that. Yeah, yeah. And then they can just click on one of them and it pulls up the video, the whammy footage we were just showing you. Boom. Pulls that up and now you’re watching a video screen of me eating my lunch, walking down the screen, walking down the street. This is 100 real. I’ll tell you where my mind goes to. This is so scary because if you could make the orbs invisible, and I think you could do this, and they were as I described in that leap up sentient AI, they could actually pluck a person off an airplane out of an office building and no one would see what happened to them.

They would just see they were gone. Yeah. And here’s the part. They can be invisible 100%. Those orbs can be invisible because they can modulate the frequency that they’re using as a standing wave. So they’re producing a standing wave in there to keep it perfectly stable. But you can, theoretically, it doesn’t have to be one wavelength. It just has to be any standing wave that fits within the bubble of the. Of the orbit. So you can use different wavelengths, different frequencies, and certain frequencies are invisible. So this is where. I don’t remember the exact podcast, but the idea was that you can either be invisible, invisible spectrum, or in infrared, but not both at the same time.

Right, because. So that’s the idea. So why are we filming everything in infrared and flir? Because we know this technology is out there. That’s why all our military is using infrared. We’re not the only ones using it. We know it’s out there. That’s why we don’t film everything in optical anymore, because it can be invisible in optical. So those orbs probably were invisible and optical. There’s invisible plasma Orbs flying around. And then when they zapped the plane, it was a UV or X ray release of light. Those aren’t visible either. So that plane would have looked like it was just not there anymore.

It would have just. I don’t even know what it would have looked like. But what would prevent that from being done? Let’s say you had an invading army cross our southern border. You could zap them the same way and they’d just be gone. Nobody’s going to touch America. Have you been listening to Trump say, like, how far ahead we are and what have you? Like, he’s been flexing. In fact, I think I. This is being a little too egotistical, but I think he’s somewhat reacting to the fact that those videos are out there. Because now those videos are out there, we’re not afraid to say, hey, do what we say, or we’ll tell them, we’ll zap you with some orange.

Right? I mean, that’s a pretty good threat. And so Trump’s been saying we have stuff that nobody understands. He said that twice. We have something nobody understands. Nobody’s even close. Nobody’s going to touch us. If anybody were trying to even do anything, we would just completely annihilate them. And that’s true. We would. It would not even. It would be over before lunch. Like, it’s just. There’s no chance. And the worst part is we. We would be. It would be horrific. Absolutely. Let me just warn our adversaries. Do not mess with America. Do not mess with us at all.

Because next thing you know, every single airplane that you have flying over your country, all your airplanes are going to disappear. They’re going to disappear and they’re never going to be seen ever again. All of them, every single one in the sky simultaneously. We could do something that horrifying where you just go, okay, we give up. We’re done. I hear you. Your speculation, this Malaysian Airlines event was a. A demonstration event for adversaries. You just really reinforced that idea with that statement right here. Ashton, we’re out of time, but I want to know how people can follow you this.

You’re a fascinating guy. This is incredible. Great. Yeah. Check me out at Just X Ashton, on Twitter, YouTube, and I think all the rest of the social medias as well, for as long as I’m allowed to speak and. And what have you. We’ll see. Thank you for the time, though. I appreciate it. Dave, thank you. Justin, take care. To everybody else, thanks for joining us. We’ll see you back here next time.
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