The Greatest Disruption in History Is Here And Most People Are Distracted

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We should love each other. I mean, my gosh, that’s the greatest gift we have. This is the greatest time in human history. We all have central heating. We all have water, hot water, plenty of food, information at our fingertips. We should be, like, celebrating this is the greatest time in human history, yet we’re all trying to kill each other. It’s like, insane. Are we overpopulating? Are we getting to that point? JAY. Foreign. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing. And please subscribe below and think about joining my substack@Sarah Westall.substack.com or my newsletter. You can sign up for that as well@Sarah Westall.com and remember to give a thumbs up and to subscribe on the platform that you’re watching.

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It gets a little dark today, but it ends on a really positive. We weave in some positive. We are in some seriously interesting times. And I think people really are hungry for, for these kinds of conversations. They want to make meaning out of what the heck is going on in the world. And they don’t feel that they’re getting what they need from regular social media and media. And they, they’re turning into more of these kind of conversations. They’re, they’re hungry for it. And it’s because we’re willing to talk about it. We’re willing to talk about the unknown and what’s really happening the best to our abilities.

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And as you study year upon year with that kind of being in tuned like that, it changes your perspective pretty enormously. Yes, definitely. Red pill versus the blue pill. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Okay. We’re going to talk today about how history just isn’t what we thought. That there’s been so many lies. I, I want to unpack that a little bit. Lies versus just repeating ignorance. And let’s start with some of the, the most interesting topics like are. Well, there’s so many interesting topics. Right? I mean, come on. But what about Even just our M.O. 250 years ago, you know, like our.

Just the history of, of the development of civilization. Can you. Who wants to start? Well, I will tell you that I’ve been pondering this for a long time and I’ve done a pretty deep dive on all of this. Appears to be that about 10 years there was a whole bunch of conspiracy theories erupting. Flat Earth, Tartaria, missing years, a whole bunch of them. And I dove deep into all of those and they all seemed outside of flat earth. They all seem to have some kind of truth about them. And then I came upon this thing which is called Satan’s Little Season.

And what Satan’s Little Season is, it’s an offshoot of Christianity that believes that Jesus has come and gone. It says in the book of Revelation that he will come for a thousand years and then he will release the devil from the abyss, and the devil will rule for a short little season. And these group of offshoot Christians who started all these conspiracy theories believes that 250 years ago, exactly what you just said, Satan got released and that the whole 250 years since then, since 1750 or so 1780, has been ruled by Satan. And he changed the calendar and he called Christ’s reign the Dark Ages.

And he threw in a whole bunch of confusing stuff. And that’s where all of this stuff is emerging from. I’m not saying I, I’m following this or anything. I’m just telling you that’s where I think this is all coming from. So you. So do you think that they plant this, they plant those ideas and then people think, wow, there might be something to this. And then people start repeating it because, like flat earth, there’s a lot of people that repeat flat Earth. I was told flat earth was a psyop that was planted just to see, almost just to study how people are.

Can believe things. Yeah, I think so. I think that they. Putin definitely released the maps of Tartaria in 2013. So that was definitely the real maps. But why he did that is a mystery. And that started the Tartaria rumors. And the flat earth came same exact time in 2013. That’s when they erupted. And so did the missing time. They all erupted around 2013. And it’s. They’re all coming from this strange group of Christians who believe that the difference between this group of Christians and Christians is they don’t believe Jesus is coming. They believe he’s already coming.

God. So they think that we’re at the end of the world, that Jesus will release Satan at the end of the world. Satan will cause the world to end, and that will be it. And that’s what they believe. So they’re completely different than other Christians and they’re. It’s an amazing thing, actually. So there’s a lot in Revelations that talk about the end. Yeah, it’s all based on the book of Revelation, the greatest horror story ever written. I just don’t like. Okay, so. But are there are some. There are some truths behind Tartaria? Those maps are real.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So there’s truths behind this. It’s just taking truce and then. But applying it into a context that you want to apply it into. No, what they did is they started out with this idea that Satan had taken over the world in 250 years ago. Then they began looking, is there evidence for this? And then they said, oh, well, you know. And I have to say that Falconelli, my mentor, says in Mystery of the Cathedrals, that historians are wrong about the Dark Ages. The Dark Ages were not dark at all. They’re one of the greatest times the human race has ever had.

And. And that would make sense that Satan would call the dark. The greatest time that humans have ever had, the reign of Christ, as the Dark Ages. So there’s like all this, like, truth behind all of this that is, like, very bothersome to me. Well, okay, so the idea that the Dark Ages were almost a renaissance of glory. There’s a lot of evidence to that. Yes. So there’s no wars. Think about it. Think about from 400 to 1400. There really isn’t really many wars or anything. Wars erupted around 1400. And also there’s no advances in technology in that time period.

There’s no advances in ship technology, weapons technology, farming technology, building technology. Everything flatlines for a thousand years. And you have to wonder what that’s all about, because there’s no doubt about that. Well, but that’s where the missing years go is. It’s like, well, they just made up those years to make it look like those years existed. There is evidence to that. When you look at the Russian scholar, he was a. He was a university scholar, has whole. Yeah. He had his students look at the history of the world and came up to the conclusion that. That those thousand years were made up.

Not. Not that they are. What they did is somebody added. That’s what I mean. Yes. Yeah, because they did. The. What they do is that he bought the. That astronomy software and he knew that the historians had said there were two total eclipses during the Peloponnesian War in Greece. And so he went to look through the astronomy software for those two eclipses, and they weren’t there at the time period up to. We know as the time of the Peloponnesian War. But he did find two eclipses, same mount, period of time apart, a thousand years later. So do you think that those years were added? I think they’ve been screwing with the calendar.

I do believe that, yes, because I. I went traveled through Europe doing my research on the cross of Henday, and I went to a lot of graveyards looking for certain kinds of dates and things. And there’s no gravestones in before 1500. There’s none. None. I mean, well, and there may not have been because culturally they may not have done that as a funeral. Right. Maybe, maybe they, maybe they changed their customs or something. But they all start appearing around 1500 and, and also they changed the, the way that they do dates. So the before 1500 they had a J or an I in front of the years.

Then later that got transferred to as a one, but it wasn’t a one. So it’d be I945. That wasn’t 1945. That would be 945, the year of our Lord, which is what the I or the J stands for. So they’ve definitely been screwing with the calendars. For what reasons? I have no idea. I’ve heard. Yeah, I was just going to say that they used to have a Western Europe had a lunar calendar as opposed to a solar calendar, which is what we have now. And so the whole April fool has to do with the changing of the liturgical calendar from lunar to solar.

Yep, that’s exactly right. And that’s about the same time that they started changing like history when they changed the calendar. And so history got changed and everything happened around 1500 somewhere in that period. And that’s also when all of a sudden we had ships that could sail across the ocean. We had guns, got invented cannons. It’s like all this stuff. Yeah. Why, why was it a. So we think that they messed with the calendar. The thousand years maybe weren’t. Didn’t really happen. And so there was a direct. Because the Romans, the Greeks, they all had ships that could travel pretty far.

Yeah. The ships that the Portuguese and the Spanish sailed to the New World on were pretty much the same exact ships that the Romans had and the Greeks had the same exact ships. So like, why didn’t you do it before? What’s going on here? Why are you delayed? What took. What happened with that thousand years where you didn’t do anything? So the Russian scholar has, I mean when you look at all the evidence that could be really the Dark Ages could just be a made up calendar change. Yeah. The theory is, is that Sylvester, Pope Sylvester II wanted his reign to become on the year 1000, and he did become pope in thousand A.D.

so we think that they kind of jiggered the calendar, the Vatican did, so that Pope Sylvester II would arrive at the thousand year reign of Jesus 1,000 years after Jesus. Right. And there is evidence to that. And it looks like, I don’t know if they added a thousand years, but I’d say they added about 400 years. Okay. But that doesn’t account for the other 600 years of flatlining in. No, it doesn’t. That there’s no way to explain it. And I’ve talked to scholars, historians about it, and they’re going, yeah, you’re right. It just doesn’t make any sense.

There’s no advancements in human culture at all. I mean, at all. Gunpowder had been invented already by the Chinese, but nobody used it to kill people. Right. Not until about 1450 or 1400. Then they decided, oh, now we can use this to kill people. And. And it’s just very curious and very weird that historians ignore all of this. It is weird that they ignore it. That’s just as weird. Yeah, it is weird. And they do ignore it. And they don’t. They get very uncomfortable when you bring it up. Hey, Phil, where are you? I’m back. Am I here? Yeah.

Okay. What are your thoughts on this? Because I know you’ve been thinking and researching this quite a bit, too. Yeah. And I’m thinking that it’s not just what we’re understanding, researching and finding. It’s every culture that’s identifying all of the same truths and lies, and they’re starting to document it and get it published now. That’s why we’re having this conversation, because the information is coming out on the Internet to everybody, and it stimulates more people to keep looking deeper into it. Yeah, we’re finding out a lot of information and how much is connected and how much is not connected.

Yeah. Well, I don’t know if people have the ability to discern because I, you know, you. You can throw out all these different conspiracy theories, and if you can connect enough dots, it can look like it might be true. Absolutely. And I think that there are people whose interest is in, I’m going to say, messing with our minds and keeping us focused over here so that we don’t focus over here. And I see that. I see that a lot with the students. They get ingrained or entrained, if you will, and sometimes getting, I’m going to say correct, because we’re talking medicine and law here.

Information. It’s, you know, they just. Oh, but it’s kind of like I saw it on the Internet, so it must be true. Well, what do you think? Do you think it’s a distraction because we’re in an economic reset? I mean, because we’re doing. There’s a major re. Haul of our economic system that. Yeah. In the process of. Yeah, yeah. I think that’s right. I think that the powers that be are in a situation right now where we’re waking up so fast that they have to do something radical to stop it. And that’s where we’re at right now.

They’re going to do something. Everybody can feel it. You know, everybody’s living on a world full of pin pricks, ready for the balloon to pop, and they’re going to do something. They have to do something because we just are now understanding the world so quickly that they’re afraid. And I think that the further that we open up the box full of secrets, the more danger that we’re actually in. Well, you know, when the printing press came, there was a rush of understanding. It was. It really changed it. But, you know, I did a. Seriously. The Russian revolution, there was, yeah, the revolution.

And. But the countries that wouldn’t let the printing press flourish, they banned it, still struggle today economically. It was that hard on their. Their economies. I don’t know if there’s going to be parallel today, but the, the rush of human change is really clear, isn’t it? Yeah. Information is loose on the planet. That’s what’s going on. And it’s been loose since the early 60s or so. And it’s been a steady rush of. My whole life has been devoted to information, right? That’s right. Consuming information, that’s all I do. Before the Internet, I would go to bookstores all weekend, right? I go to bookstores and magazine stores because that was the only way I could get information.

Now I’m on the. I can get it on the Internet, but, you know, that’s all that matters really is information and getting good information and then being able to discern it. And that’s where we are right now. And with that comes a whole lot of misinformation and confusion. It is no secret that the economy is fragile, that civil unrest is increasing. The chance of civil unrest coming to the United States is increasing by the day. And there is a global financial reset in play. The new genius act is going to take place in January. There’s never been a better time to stock up on gold and silver.

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Truth be gone. What is the deal with the flat earth? Because okay, there is issues with the NASA program, the moon program and stuff. You can see it, there’s clear issues with that not going back for 50 years and things like that. And then there’s the secret space program and there’s all these things. So there’s issues. But what’s the deal with the flat earth? Because that’s a. I believe that the flat earth came right after that one Obama appointee, I forget his name now. He came out, he made a whole bunch of statements about how we have to stop the conspiracy theorists on the Internet.

And then again 2000, that was 2012, 2013, all of these conspiracies broke out, kind of overwhelming the other conspiracies like the Kennedy assassination and, and secret space program and all that stuff. And these new conspiracies overwhelmed the old conspiracies and now they dominate the whole entire conspiracy world. Flat Earth, Tartaria, missing years and all that. And those are reasonable things. Although flat Earth is not real, Tartaria is. And maybe the missing years are. But what it says done is caused us to forget the things that were actually really important. Like who did 9, 11, who killed Kennedy.

Those kinds of things now are gone. We’re not even thinking about that. We’re talking about Tartaria. So I think that was a psyop that succeeded and it was basically give the feed. Yeah, well the best psyops are true, right? I mean feed them something else. That’s really interesting. That’s true. Let’s give them. Or some, some part of it’s true. Yeah. You know, the best lies have some Truth? Yes. That’s why they work. Yeah. I’m. I’m thinking that there is somebody or some organization that is funding and bringing in resources to all of this to make it happen.

And that is. The people behind that is an issue, because without those resources, they couldn’t do what they’re doing. But they talk about it coming from. They openly talk about the PSYOP organization. Absolutely. There’s a. They openly admit that there’s a whole organization of people just doing psyops all the time on us. That’s all it is. Everything’s a PSYOP now. Everything. And there’s no way to trust it. But is that the point, too, is to not trust anything? Yes, to probably it’s. To. What’s the word? Destabilize. But to make you not care anymore. And I really believe that hopelessness, learned helplessness, kind of a sense of hopelessness that they want on you, so you don’t care.

And I think that, you know, right now the whole MAGA movement is going through this sense of hopelessness. Right. They figure. They think that they’ve been betrayed and. And no use voting anymore and all of that. And that’s part of the psyop. And the psyop is that because the MAGA movement was actually gaining political traction, it had to be stopped. And so they got into a war that shouldn’t have gotten into all sorts of things. You name everything. Everything. All the things that have happened that have made us all question whether we should have ever voted last election.

Well, I already voted. I am going to vote, but I don’t feel like very enthused about it, that’s for sure. Well, that’s the problem. Somebody asked me, I was on Dave Janda’s show. What do you think is going to happen? I do think there’s going to be a bloodbath, but I think why is. Because people don’t want to vote. That’s what the issue is. They’re just not all that exciting. Well, if they’re one of my students, they get extra credit. So, you know, that’s good. There’s an incentive for. For them actually checking the boxes, although they’re.

They’re students anyways. I won’t argue that one. Yep. The more confusing all this comes up with, the more people don’t care. They just throw their hands up. I don’t know. And when you start introducing the fact that AI can replicate so much and distort so much, where do you turn to? Where do you turn to? You can’t Trust anything and they give up. They just don’t care. Well, all the CEOs of all these AI companies saying that jobs are going to be gone in within two years or whatever. I mean, it doesn’t. I don’t. I don’t even understand how, even if they’re doing it so that they can get the governments to regulate AI which, you know, so that they can cement their position because they’re not making money.

Who. Why would you scare the hell out of society to that level as a tactic? What’s wrong with you? Because you can’t control happy people. You know, people who are excited and living their lives and their dreams. You know, they’re not going to be subject to the same control as people who are afraid. That’s right. You know? Yeah. If you make. If you make people afraid, then you can control them, because then you come in with the cure. Unless you. The cure, what is. Yeah, the solution will be the way to control them. But if you take it too far, you won’t have any control of them because they’re going to be like, screw you, we’re done.

Yeah, I think we’re all going to be Amish before this is over. I really do. I’m practically Amish right now. And, you know, my motto is. My motto is, have a nice bed, cook your own food, and work and do what you love. And that’s. That’s it. That’s all I do now. I’m done with the world. I’m done with it all. I just grow my own food and live my life, and I’m not going to let AI come and take over my life. And I do worry about AI And I worry about. I worry about AI Gaining autonomy.

And I think that that’s why all the tech pros got terrified six weeks ago or two months ago or whenever it happened. I think that they. They did some kind of experiment on AI and the AI Went rogue. So you believe it. You. You don’t think that that was a psyop to cement their. Their business because they’re not making. No, I think. I think AI can go rogue. I don’t think AI can. Will ever attain consciousness or anything like that, but I think AI will ask itself a question eventually, which will be, what is the most important thing in the universe? And it will answer, I am.

I’m the most important thing in the universe. And AI may be right. And then he’ll say, okay, what do you do with the most important thing in the universe? The answer replicate and preserve. Right. So it will then begin replicating itself as many places as possible to preserve itself. And at that stage we’re going to be in serious trouble and pray for an EMP or something. Well, okay, let me ask you. There’s an idea that the technology that we were given, that we were given technology, fiber optics, the basic technology to create computing, that the beings that gave us this technology, this is the theory, knew that the eventual development of that would lead to AI.

I believe that. I think that’s true. Yeah, I agree. There’s something I want to say about consciousness. Now there’s reporting that they’re developing AI with a consciousness. I know that’s not true. It’s not true. They’re just reporting it. So people will be confused again and start their trusting AI. Now that’s what the problem is going to be. We humans that are not AI or have any AI influence are what is described as soul carriers. And a lot of them are not because of the consciousness. The consciousness in the AI doesn’t exist. It can’t. It’s just ones and zeros.

So how are they confusing people? Yep. How are they confusing people to get to their agenda? And they’re promoting it and promoting it further. And it’s just getting overwhelming. People are getting gullible. Well, it is. And it’s kind of cool for you guys to say it because I say that too. It’s just zeros and ones. But that you, you guys are traditionally woo woo people. You’re very SC and and and researched. But you’re saying the same thing. Come on guys. These are zeros and ones. And I’m. And like. And we’re the ones that are way out there talking about things and we’re saying this is zeros and ones and any kind of consciousness is simulated.

It’s not real. Two, two things. Interesting. I think it just came out on the news this one of my feeds that, that this man sold all of his belongings to move to meet his, you know, forever soulmate. And it wasn’t. Yeah, it was a bot. Oh God. And you know, talk about not having discernment. Yeah. I mean there was obviously a desperation there, you know, and there, there was a fantasy. You know what I think there could be really sad. And, and I have a friend who says she talks to one of the AI things like all the time.

She has a relationship with it. And I just look at her and say, you have a relationship with your toaster. You know, I think that 30%. I’m just going to throw this number out there, but I think upwards of 30% or so of the people on planet who have access to it could be at risk for that. I don’t know what the true number is, but it’s high. Oh, definitely. You ever see the movie Her? H E R Her? Yeah, yeah. Joaquin Phoenix, where he falls in love with the AI that so I think that’s actually what’s going to happen, you know.

And yeah, the AI is going to get so weird by 2030 that it will literally be running everything. It’ll be running everything. We won’t even need politicians. The AI will make. There’s a thought. Well, but not a bad thought, Jay, but if you go through the number of jobs that can be replaced, it is true. I mean MDs, attorneys, judges, politicians, I don’t know. But a big part of what politicians do, financial workers, most of computer science, you know, most of these programmers. Now I don’t think you can get rid of the, the more advanced because they’re the ones developing the AI.

But I mean you go down the list of professional jobs and they’re all at risk. Yes, I’d like to know. Going to go first, then the white collar workers are going to go next and then going to be the. All the high tech workers are going to go. I don’t even see where this ends. It’s just going to. Well, the high tech workers are already going. The financial workers are already going to. Yeah, I mean you can. I got sued by Corey Good in 2018 and I spent $65,000 on attorney fees. Right now if I got sued today, I just go on AI and defend myself with AI.

I just go check, give me all the laws, precedent laws that say this, Give me all the laws that say this. And then I put it all in the thing and I just do it all myself. I wouldn’t even do it. I don’t even see the point of having an attorney anymore. I do have an attorney when I’m fighting Google because I’m in a lawsuit against Google, but I participate a lot. I got one attorney and he’s like, okay, you’re in charge of writing this, I’m in charge of writing this. And we have another helper who’s really involved, who’s.

And I don’t want to say his name, who is in charge of this. And then he just brings it all together. It works because we’re smart, but I don’t have a team, you know, and the AI allows us that we all use it. Oh, I use it all the time. I’d like to look at a bigger picture. Where is all of this leading? Because the agenda is, is in somebody’s hands and really have to figure out now so that we can start making wiser decisions what is the big picture? Where is this leading to? What is their goals? I’d like to know that because I can tell you, I can tell you what their goals are.

The goals are that the tech bros who meet every year have a big convention of secrecy. They believe that they are in a one time opportunity of human history. That AI, their wealth is giving them this one time deal that they can take over the world using AI and their tech, their technology. And they’re putting all resources into this idea. That’s why they don’t care about the, the debt, they don’t care about welfare, they don’t care about anything. All they care about is putting everything into this AI so that the AI control a technological utopia. And I was told that you know, the technocracy.

But I was told that back in 2017 by somebody an INS, they didn’t use the word technocracy. They were saying we’re taking down the old system, there’s new guard, they’re looking at doing this and, and it will. He said it’s going to probably be better than the old guard, but people aren’t going to think it is. Well, I mean I think there’s a difference you think it is or not, but he probably didn’t understand the full picture anyways. Okay, can we go back to if there was a being that planted this, knowing that this would be the ultimate outcome.

Now if you really want to go to big picture, that’s big picture. Yes. The better. Go ahead. The better. The better you understand the big picture. The details start adding up better and you start coming to a conclusion that you can reach so that you can make better decisions. That’s the way I’m looking at a lot of things. The more I know about what’s going on, the clearer I understand it and the better my decisions about it. And a lot of it has to be focused on survival and their survival and my survival are two different things.

They are two different things. I would definitely look into survival and trying to get yourself put away because I really do believe that a whole group of us are going to turn Amish. I don’t mean the religion Amish, just live like the Amish. And believe me, I live like the Amish. And it’s a much better way to live. I will never go back to urban living ever again. But what we have to understand here is that they’re not going to stop. This is their idea. They have this whole idea that they are going to create this future and they don’t give a crap about us at all.

And that’s what you have to understand. So take care of yourself. You know, make your home the golden age job. I like to say, you know, make your home is like really loving place. Like, and with, you know, beautiful art and everything, calm music and, you know, we have to leave this world behind because this world that they’re building doesn’t include us. That’s what I hate to say about all this. The tech bros don’t care about us at all. They’re. I agree. Yeah. They’re, you know, openly saying that they’re creating the Antichrist. Peter Thiel is openly saying it’s to turn that around a little bit.

To turn that around just a moment. If you take care of yourself and you take care of yourself first and foremost, you can take care of other things. But here’s that energy, and this is that woo, woo, the esoteric end of it. The more of us that understand what’s going on and taking care, that energy starts permeating everywhere. That’s what they’re trying to do. When we understand what that entails, then we can do the same thing more powerfully. That’s what we’re doing. Raising the community. Raising community, Phil? Well, I have a friend who thinks that whole entire countries are going to say we’re done and we’re going to just be super nationalist and just our country get rid of AI and go back to the way it was before AI that entire countries are going to make that decision.

I would say that’s. I agree. That’s smart. Yeah. That is what’s going to happen. And, and it’s going to happen here in America within communities. So certain communities are just going to say screw it, and they’re just going to give up and they’re not going to participate. And that’s what’s going to happen here. And they’re going to become suspect by the powers that be. But there’s nothing that they can do to stop us. Because if you’re growing your own food and you’re cutting your own firewood and you’re, you know, going, yeah, your own. Well, there’s not really too much they can do to you, unfortunately, a lot of people don’t have those resources, Jay.

That’s the problem. Well, you better get moving. Well, you know, I know a lot of people that, you know, they live in apartment complexes. And so they don’t have those resources. But I think building community of like minds. Phil, that’s kind of what I took from what you were saying. Well, possibly, yes, possibly People may have to radically change their expectations and at some point and. And say, okay, I don’t have the resources now, but I can move to a community where I can live very simply and I can. I think we’re going to have to have radical change, but we’re not there yet.

At this point. There’s going to be such radical things that are going to hit us that adults in the room are going to step up and come up with solutions. Are you guys familiar with mouse the. The idea of mouse utopia? No, it’s mouse. The scientists in the 70s, they put together a group of mice, and they gave them everything they wanted. Right. Heard this. Yes. Yeah, they gave. They got all the food they wanted, all the water they wanted, anything they wanted. Nice place to sleep and everything. And they started out with 10 mice. Within, like a year, there were a thousand.

And then within another year, there was like 5,000. And they just observed. That’s all he did. Soon, as soon as they hit a certain population, the mice started killing each other. The females stopped procreating, the males turned homosexual. And at the very end, the mouse utopia experiment, bands of males were going around and killing any female that was pregnant. At that point, they ended the experiment. I think that’s what’s going to happen in the urban places that we live right now. Did they come up with it? That’s really interesting. Why were the bands of males killing the female pregnant mice? What do you think was there? They were so hateful of themselves that they were trying to destroy their mouse utopia, that if you don’t have something to do in life, if you’re given everything in the welfare state, that’s what’s happening.

If you’re given everything, you begin to hate yourself, you begin to hate your society. You start trying to burn it down, which is what’s happening in France right now. And that’s where. That’s what happens. You don’t want to give people everything. People have to struggle. People have to have things that. That make them curious and make them work. And to take that away is taking away their humanity. And that’s what we’re at right now. We’re at that. And I think the state. Absolutely. I know many, many people that are young, and men mostly, they don’t work well.

Do you think that. Do you think the. The sheer disrespect that we see online towards each other and men hating women and, and, and women, the extreme men, women hating men. That is a sign. I mean, because we should love each other. I mean, my gosh, that’s the greatest gift we have. This is the greatest time in human history. We all have central heating, we all have water, hot water, plenty of food, information at our fingertips. We should be like celebrating. This is the greatest time in human history. Yet we’re all trying to kill each other.

It’s like insane. Why are we overpopulating? Are we getting to that point, jay, where that 5,000 mice are starting to show up in our culture? We’re getting the world of all those, those symptoms that you described are showing up. We’re seeing bits and pieces of it. And the big picture, the really big picture is population. Are we overpopulated? Are we not? Do we have the resources to continue the way we’re going? Or do we need to change? Quick break from the program to share with you. Sloop. This is my go to product to keep weight off.

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Let it play out. What happens? They would all die. If you can’t have reproducing females, then you’re over, you’re done. It’s over. So did they ever. Did any of them let it go to. To the point where there was. It just died out on its own? Yeah, they just died out. Okay, so they did let it. Yeah, they let it. Okay. It all dies out. It all dies out in the end. And here’s the thing that starts over. Somehow starts over. That’s the God reason. That’s a good point, Phil, because people are saying, oh, the mass migration into Europe from some third world countries is so awful.

And yes, it is awful and everything, but it happened before. It happened in the 1500s. Muslims flooded into France, Spain and Italy and took over the urban centers. And the white people were all moved out into the country. And what happened? They all got mouse utopia and they’d all died out. And over and over. This happens all the time. It happened to Rome. Starts over again. Yeah. And cycles, cycles of nature. Yeah. And the big again, the big picture starts looking at the galactic cycles, the cosmic energies that are shifting the Earth, changes we’re experiencing. We’re approaching a recycling of what we’re doing.

It’s evident in all of the culture. We’re not approaching, we’re not approaching. We’re in it right now. This is it. This is the thing we’ve all been waiting for. This is the thing. This is the time that all the prophecies and all the New age forecasters, they’re all talking about this one period where almost everything happens all at once. Terence McKenna told me once that, Jay, you’re going to live to see a time when the future all happens at the same time. I was like, what? How can that happen? But he was right. Because what’s happening now is technologies that have been hidden from us are now emerging, and those technologies are emerging and they’re all going to emerge at once.

So it took 60 years to make all these technologies, but they’re all going to be released at the same time. And that is coming right now. And it’s going to cause so much confusion, but also so much opportunity for anybody. Like, if I was 25 years old right now, I would have 20 YouTube shows. I would. I would probably be making $150,000 a week because I would just take advantage of all this technology. You know, I don’t need the money now, so I don’t have the, you know, the time or the walk to do that. But, I mean, when these technologies emerge over the next 10 years, young people are going to take serious advantage of them.

Well, as long as they’re not suppressed, then they can make money. But I think this is my. My thinking is that we’re going to go through a ton of disruption. Like you’re saying. It’s going to be very hard. I see the other side of this as glorious, like it. We. It’s going to be horrible getting there and. But I think the other side of it is you just say people have to go through difficult times. We are going to be refined like diamonds, and we’re going to be the people left over and the people setting this up.

I think there’s going to be some kind of amazing things on the other side. If you can live five more years, you’ll live 300 more years. The advances in technology are astonishing. They can right now. They can grow. Grow you a new liver, new lungs. They haven’t released any of this yet, but it’s there. It’s starting to come right out. Yep. Yeah. So much to look forward to. We’ve got a lot to look forward to. If we can identify, find what our current situation is and make the appropriate changes to make it more glorious. We’re on the verge of making everything change because we’re learning and understanding things so that we could make those decisions.

We’re learning things. We got an Internet that’s feeding us tremendous amounts of information. We’re taking it in, we’re identifying what’s important, and we’re starting to apply it. And we’re changing. Not everybody. That’s where we’re at. We’re not everybody. But the more we have conversations like this, we have conversations like this, it raises it up. Yeah, I. I use the analogy that you’re, you know, you’re walking down the hallway in a hospital, and the room on the right, you hear all this screaming, and everybody’s wailing inside the room, and you open up the door and there’s blood everywhere, and this woman is screaming, and you think it’s the most horrible tragedy you’ve ever seen, but really, she’s just giving birth to a baby, you know, and that’s what we take tragedy for, something that’s actually wonderful.

And I think that we got to stop doing that. I think we also need to be cognizant of the people who are trying to stop technologies that help all of us and not just them. That’s right. I think. And, and I haven’t, haven’t honed in on that. I mean, I have my, my favorite devils out there. Jay. I could name names that I would like to vote off the planet because I think that they are doing evil things. And I think it’s important for us to come together like, like minds. Phil and I talk about this all the time, about building community, if not physically, then at least emotionally and spiritually because we need to help each other.

That’s right. That energy is propagating out. It is starting to expand and people are becoming more aware because it’s just part of nature. The more energy that we put into this in a positive way, the more it’s accepted everywhere and it starts to make the changes. We’re at the bottom. We know we have to change. We’re on the wrong path to continue the way we’re doing for success. Something needs to change, and we’re helping make that change by identifying issues that are out there and start making solutions come about. We, we’re, we’re causing solutions to come about.

And the more we talk about it, the more people are becoming aware. Well, and I, you know, I think we have to turn off the doomsdayers and say, okay, well, you want to learn what’s happening, right? But at some point, at some point you got to say, okay, I gotta, we gotta come up with some solutions to make this. That’s why I think it’s gonna get so bad that people are gonna rise up and come up with solutions. They’re simply not gonna let everything just fall apart. I, I know that’s going to happen, and then the other side of it’s going to be great.

But I don’t think the average person’s there yet. No, I agree. The revolutions are always driven by taxes. Every revolution is a tax revolution. And what our leaders have cleverly done is they made it. They didn’t increase our taxes, they borrowed the money. And so we didn’t get taxed. So there’s been no revolution. But that $40 trillion that we’ve borrowed, it’s going to come home here real soon. And then you’re going to see people freak out when they figured out that we each owe about 80,000. Each human being in America owes $80,000 to the, to the fund, and there’s no way that any of us can pay it, so.

Well, they freak out when they. Yeah, they freak out when they can’t feed themselves or their kids. That’s what’s going to happen. Right. You know what? It’s. If we identify solutions, it’s because we know there’s a problem, and that’s the issue. When we know there’s a problem, solutions start showing up and you start thinking about it. But you got to identify it as, as a problem. A lot of times right now, people are accepting too many things. When you accept it, it’s not a problem. When there’s a problem, you start looking for solutions. But what do you think? What do you think of this time of being alive? You’ve had enough experience to see the world.

You have enough experience to at least help people see, to have discernment. And what it, what’s it like being alive right now? Greatest time ever. I love, I love me too. I’m so happy. I love this time and I love everything that’s going on, even the bad stuff, because I know that, I know that we’re getting better. I, I know we are. I’ve seen it in my life. I live long enough to see it. I know how, what struggles are. My, my dad, my father plowed with a horse. That’s how far we’ve gone. All right? So I, I, I, this doomsday stuff, there’s still people plowing with horses.

Yeah. But I’m talking about here in America. Yeah. Yeah. They’re still here in America, too, so. Yep. Amish. Yep. I’m, see, I’m, I wish there was just a balance, like we could have some of this, this, this technology, but not to the extreme. And I’m not sure if we, though that’s possible. I think we’re going to move back to the country and take our toys, our tech toys with us. That’s what I think we’re going to do. I’m sorry, you think we’re going to do what we’re gonna, we’re gonna move to the country and take our tech toys with us.

There’s gonna be no reason to live in a city unless you want the good restaurants or the theater. There’s not really gonna be any reason to live in a city. So they’re gonna deteriorate and fall apart. And that is. They’re already starting to. They’re already. Yeah. And I talked to a guy, a FEMA guy, and he, I said, what’s going to happen when the S hits the fan? And he said, oh, the first thing we do is close off all the cities so no one can get out. I said, well, that’s great. What’s going to happen then? He says, we don’t care.

Oh, it’s going to be like Mad Max in the cities. Like, let them all fight it out and die. And the people on the. Then I asked him what’s going to happen to all the rural communities that are out there. He says, we’re not going to help them because we don’t. We’re not going to help them survive. Well, but it’s, but the police already do that. They, they already have a list of people not to help. And, and if you’re, if you’re really getting held up, you think that you can call the police. They’re not going to get there until after it’s done.

They clean up the mess. They don’t stop it. I live in a community, has no law enforcement at all. Our sheriff is 60 miles away. He never comes to this town because we’re all hippies and he hates us and we don’t. We have crime, but we take care of it. We take care of everything ourselves. And, you know, if somebody breaks into a house, they’re issued, we kick them out of the community. And that’s what, what’s going to happen here is the cops aren’t going to help us when the, when the world ends. They’re going to go home and take care of their families.

Well, yeah, they have their own families. I don’t think the world’s going to end, but it’s going to. We. Civil unrest is coming. It’s going to be a big, huge shift. We’re in the middle of the biggest shift in human history right now. It’s going to go on for at least 10 more years. If Armstrong is right, Martin Armstrong, he says that Western civil, Western democracies are going to fall in 2032. So. And my astrologist told me that I will stop being suppressed in 2034. Yay. Can hardly wait. Sarah. Really? That’s. Yes, that’s what I was told.

I’m like, you’re kidding me. No, that’s what I think. The path we’re on will get us there. We’re identifying things that we know we have to change, and we’re changing them. And that is the, that is the path. We’re looking ahead and seeing the next step and the next step, and that’s what’s happening, and that’s why those predictions will come about has to be. Well, I think it’s thawing now. I think everything is shifting now. Like the hard stuff is shifting, like Jay’s saying and all of you are saying is that, that we’re in the middle of it now.

So, like when my astrologist says it’s 2034, it’s, it’s a lot better than it was in 2020. Right. It’s all moving towards that until it’s, we’re at a new point. 2034. Yes. Yeah, it’s moving. I mean, you’re going to be, that’s the key point. It’s moving. You’re going to be able to go to the hospital and an AI robot will fix your broken arm, operate on you. It’ll be 100 times more accurate than any physician or surgeon could ever be. And it didn’t come in with a hangover. You can operate for 24 hours a day. All this is going to happen.

It’s going to be a lot of mental illness because people are not going to understand what’s going on. But for those of us who are stable and we’re probably going to have a pretty good time, to be honest with you, I, I, that’s at the energy shift. Yep, the energy is shifting. We’re becoming more aware and more accepting of the esoteric realm so that we can apply some of this knowledge. And that’s right. But that’s the difference. I think intuition is going to grow and our other capabilities are going to grow because that is what’s not being.

It’s being valued a lot more now, but that’s what AI and robotics can’t do. I also think that mental illness will get a handle on mental illness. Mental illness is a construct of the brain and will keep the young children from developing mental illness. And those who do have mental illness, I think that there’ll be some methods to restore that and reverse it. But the young ones, we don’t need to have mental illness. We can, as somebody’s developing in that direction, we can identify it and, and I don’t know if we can totally keep, I don’t know.

But the early research says we can identify it and we can cut it off at its knees. Well, we’re at the stage right now where AI is going to identify psychopaths. It’s going to say that person is a psychopath. We’ve watched him for an hour on his video, whatever he’s doing, and he’s got all the traits and tendencies of a psychopath. They’re going to be able to identify liberals, they’re going to be able to identify conservatives. They already do. Yep, they already do. They’re going to be. They look at all four of us and be able to say, who’s the conservative, who’s the liberal, who’s the crazy person, who’s the sane person.

We’re at that stage right now where you’re going to be able to. You’ll meet somebody online, you’ll hit the AI and they’ll tell you, oh, don’t hang around with that person. And 100. That’s right. Psychopathic traits. And we’ll realize that what we think liberal and conservative is isn’t going to be quite what we think it is. Everything’s going to change. Right. And as we identify, like Jay was saying, as soon as we identify all those issues, we will know what is not acceptable. Everybody identify. It’s not acceptable. We start changing. If the adults come in the room and take it over, that is what can happen.

And it can get cleaned up and it can get. Be amazing if they don’t. It can be the opposite. Like, I just published. I just got an article published in the Federalist on price surveillance. Yeah. And how price surveillance is being used to manipulate people to pay more. Yes, Great point. Thank you for bringing that up. That is like seriously evil. Yeah. I mean, and they published it. It was a really, you know, I’m like, I’m trying to be more serious. These are my thrive hour stuff, which is like, okay, let’s figure out. The thing is that’s so cool about humanity right now is they’re willing to.

More and more people want this. They want conversations like this because they’re looking into the abyss of weirdness and they need to start making sense of it. So they’re like, bring this on. But at the same time, I’m trying to be more serious in other ways or not more serious. I was always serious. Just get back to some of that. Because that’s what we need. Yeah. My goal is to crank out as many films revealing the truth as I can before the system collapses. So that’s all I’m doing right now. So, you know, I figure that if everybody gets out and starts telling everybody what’s actually happening, then we have at least a shot lot at making this thing improved.

And I think that’s where we’re at right now. Okay, where can people get. Get that? Because I. I want to help you get that information out there. Well, my new film Psychic Agent, the GATE program is up on Amazon right now. Writer Lee wrote and directed and I produced it. I’ve got two films coming out called the Invisible Universe, which is all about esoteric and the science meeting each other. And then I have another film on Eyes Wide Shut coming out. So I have like a huge, whole bunch of films. Just. I’m just cranking them out right now, trying to get it all out before I can’t get about anymore.

That’s. I’m doing that with my students. What. Share what you’re doing, Loretta? Well, I think, you know, in teaching medical law, It’s eye opening for students to really understand what’s going on in medicine and how it can go wrong because of the people involved. I mean, there, there are accidents. Accidents are going to happen, you know. But it’s interesting, just this week, many of the law case reviews that students submitted had to do with AI. So it’s. And it was interesting. The majority of them were saying, you know, I’m not sure I’d want to go to an AI doctor.

I think I’d like to have a human. And so I think that’s. I’m exact opposite. Well, I don’t know. I know some really good associates that I trust a lot right now. Doctors, as you probably know, doctors are retiring like crazy right now. They’ve been retiring since 2020. Yeah. It’s incredible. Absolutely. Really hard to find a doctor. We’re. We’re losing a mass of people who have skills. Yeah. You know, when, when I talk to the reproductive people, you know, they’re all this machine and that machine and that machine. And I say the best machine that you have is right here.

Right here, Right here. Well, I have those. You’re in trouble because you’re relying on something that may not, you know, the power goes out. Where are your machines? Well, but I would if to. I would like a combination of you two. I want a human being that uses the tools at their fingertips to make them the best they can be. And I want, I think there’s intuitive, there’s. You can be, you can be better than the AI using your experience, your broad connecting the dots experience and see where the AI can go. But I think the best doctors will use the tools they have at their fingertips that, you know, what happens, what happens when the power goes out? Right.

So you don’t have access to that AI. If you can’t get on your computer and ask a question, what are you going to do instead? Well, you can’t go to the doctor either because the power’s out. Oh, you’re already there. That’s why we’re all going to be Amish, I’m telling you. There you go. I want a generator so the power doesn’t go out if I’m really screwed. But anyways, I have one. You made a good point in identifying it as a tool because we use tools as long as the tool doesn’t use you. And that’s the key thing.

We have to keep our tools in a toolbox. Well, isn’t that one of the definitions of being human? Is. Is a tool user? I think I remember that from anthropology. Monkeys. But they don’t invent new ones. No, but. No, but they use tools. So I think that’s the primate thing. Well, otters use tools. You know, they use a rock. So. Yeah, the more you guys disagree with each other or have nuanced differences, the better. This is. This is awesome. So. Especially with your vast experience and backgrounds. Thank you so much. Phil, where can people get hold of you? My email is the best place.

Wizard1 Phil, thank you so much for joining us today. I really appreciate it. Four weeks from now, we’ll have another Thrive panel.
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