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Broadcast loud for the world to know. Here we go. Much. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. It’s inevitable. Nothing can stop what’s coming. Money is changing, the system is changing. History is happening right now. It’s the greatest time to be alive in terms of the much needed financial shift that we are all living through. Whether you know it or not, you’re going to be part of the most pivotal transformational and profound financial shift. As we said before, since Jesus turned the tables on the Money Changers, welcome to the future of Money and finance. A 10 part video series presented by Ironhawk Financial with financial insights from Joe Lombardi.
I’m your host Scotty Saks from Sovereign Radio. And this is part nine, System Execution. How the elements combine. You’ve seen the individual elements, you’ve heard about this technology. You’ve learned what each component can do. But it’s where it gets really interesting is here and now. Because the real power isn’t any in any one element. The power isn’t in the asset backed currency, the cryptocurrency and the asset backed stablecoins or even the blockchain. It’s in how the elements work together as a system. Think about it this way. A great orchestra isn’t created by having one great musician or one great conductor.
It’s how the orchestra comes together, playing its part in harmony at precisely the right time. Every musician, every instrument and every conductor brings it all together. That’s the idea behind system execution. The technology, the energy, the environment, the protocols and the human, human element all come together to create something far greater than any individual component operating alone. And when these elements are properly integrated, coordinated and executed, that’s when the system comes alive. So in this episode, Episode nine, we’re going to pull back the curtain and show you how these pieces fit together and why understanding the whole system may be far more important than any single part.
Welcome to part nine System Execution. How the elements combine. Joining Joining me, my co host, Mr. Jim Pugh. Let’s get Jim in. Good morning, Jim. Morning, Scotty. Jim is the creator of God is government. Jim has been at the center of international finance and this reset from the inside. He’s an expert on the history of money with the biblical expertise to frame it all. When we ask, where is it all headed? Jim brings it back to God is government, money, finance, and reminds us everything is in God’s timing. We also want to welcome in our crypto.
Cool. Rob Cunningham. Rob knows the playbook on everything. Crypto, tokenomics, and blockchain. If it’s tech and if it’s tokenized, Rob’s got the mojo in the mashup. Welcome, Rob. How you guys doing today? I’m great, man. Thanks for having me. It’s good to see you, Rob. And Jim. Well, tonight’s or today’s mission is to bring the whole system together in the first eight parts. We’ve talked about the individual elements. Of course, a lot of this is techie talk, Rob, with crypto and tokenized stablecoins and the blockchain and peer to peer payment systems. How do you characterize when it all comes together? What’s the magic of this all? How does it all come together? Actually, let’s start there.
Well, let’s start even before that. Let’s just say that truth is, it already has been here since day one. It was created. This is just a revelation process for us. It’s not like it’s coming instead of it coming together, we’re coming alive. We’re waking up and reconciling to the truth. That truth is a system. It’s a system of laws and principles and mathematics and unity and creation and abundance and. And everything. Everything is. Our issue is that we have been lied to and confused and dazed and dumbed down and poisoned and psyoped and separated and divided and controlled.
And we have been. We, in our lack of understanding that truth is a system, we have become cogs in a wheel instead of created entities created by the creator. And, you know, the old adage goes that my people are destroyed for their lack of knowledge. We haven’t. We’ve just been. We have been intentionally confused so that we could be controlled. And when we come into an understanding of what is truth, then all of the scales start to look from our eyes. We start to see what money is. We start to see what math is. We start to understand why we need a ledger, why we need to get rid of middlemen, why we need to let our yes be yes or no be.
No. Why mutual consent is the highest moral law in the land, why transparency and accountability and responsibility are all tied together. You know what the difference is between government and governance, you know, and it all boils. It’s truth is a system. I love this topic today because that has been my motto on my website for years. Truth is a system. And truth doesn’t change regardless of our level of acceptance, understanding or ignorance. It just is. So what you’re saying Rob, is the system coming together and bringing these pieces and parts, these plug ins and putting them all together is a all about truth.
It’s about the blockchain, clearly is about truth and transparency. Right. We are level setting across universal principles and standards. And if you’re going to level set and rebuild the house on a foundation, a solid foundation of rock, instead of trying to manipulate every foundation of sand, which is, which is lies, I mean these are, these are historic biblical scriptural principles. Truth is we can align with it or we can be a dog and bark at the brick wall till our lungs fall out. But the brick wall is not going to change just cause the dog barks at it.
Right? And truth isn’t going to change just because, you know, my professor said or my textbook said or my degree, you know, is in, or my ego won’t allow me to admit that maybe I got fooled, maybe I got lied, maybe, maybe Fauci isn’t science and maybe the Federal Reserve isn’t honest. Just maybe, yeah, I think you can roll the dice and I’d bet on that in Vegas that just maybe they haven’t been telling us the truth. Jim, I get asked all the time, all these pieces and parts, the cryptocurrency, tokenized stablecoins, asset backed currency. I get asked who put this all together? Who, who are the brains behind this? Obviously it’s a consortium of people.
There’s not one guy, there’s not the wizard of Oz sitting behind a curtain doing this. So can you characterize the people behind it is, is it the United States treasury working in conjunction with people around the world? Is the military involved? Who’s putting this all together? Well, to go back a bit, all of these parts that have been combined together to make this system work have basically been in play for a period of time. And what they were able to do is get some very intelligent individuals together to understand how could they create a backbone process that would allow all of these silos of already existing process to take shape and provide them the security, the accuracy, the accountability so that the people could actually be put Back in charge.
And so there was, there’s, we all know about the military alliance around the world that is eradicating terror, eradicating all of the shadow governments. Well, there’s also a financial group the same way that work in conjunction with this, that treasury, not only the US treasury, but treasurees in major countries are on that team managed by the military. And what they have done is they have constructed a system that works in any environment, connects any two parties together regardless of type of transaction, utilizing a single backbone, utilizing a transaction process that would allow the same transaction to be used over and over and over again.
And they put it together using decentralized systems called nodes that allow things to move in real time. And so the people behind it are various degrees. A lot of businessmen are in that system makeup for years. Tokenization has been used for a long time. How long has Bitcoin been in the system? While Bitcoin is not asset backed, the process of Bitcoin is outside of the system. It’s sovereign. Whoever owns it can transact without the use of probably much oversight today. But that’s the reason why the, the bills that have passed through Contracts and Clarity act will actually put some regulation behind it.
But a lot of these things have been done, as I said, for years and it’s just now being combined under one base technology. Rob, I don’t know what else to call them, but plugins, Is that a good term? Each of these individual components are kind of like plugins into a master frame computer. Use the human body as an example. I mean, let’s say that we’re a node, but inside our body there’s millions and trillions of parts and they’re all connected together. We’ve got spinal cords, we have eyes, we have ears, we have, you know, a nose, a mouth, we can speak, we have lungs, we have connective tissue, we have blood flow, we have circulation.
You know, we’re 80% water. Our bodies, we’re, we’re mobile, we’re. But we are a system. Our body is a system of unbelievable complexity and unbelievable interconnectivity. And so think of us as a node and energy runs us. And we need water for life. So we need liquidity. You know, we need the senses. We can shake hands with anybody in any country. A smile is universal, whether you’re Portuguese or Italian or Filipino or American. I mean there’s an ability to interoperate between nodes, between people. Interledger protocol is a science that allows anything of value to transfer with anything of value.
So a stable coin to a bitcoin or a bitcoin to a token of gold or a smart contract to a liquidity pool. You know, if it’s a thing of value that can be truthfully tokenized and then it can be translated infinitely through like an inner ledger protocol, then anything of value can be exchanged with anything of value as long as mutual consent is involved. And there’s veracity, transparency and accountability involved in the exchange. And the most beautiful part of this is we’re allowing people to freely and lawfully exchange back and forth with anyone, anywhere 24 7, 365 without an institutional intermediary giving out permission slips and regulations.
So the ability for the energy and value between all humanity transferring back and forth with each other at light speed 24,7 it’s almost like prayer. It’s almost like God’s with us. 24 7,365 and I don’t need a membership and I don’t need a priest. Me and God can hang out together and he can change. He can give me his energy and insights and wisdom and I can choose or not choose to hang out and get in alignment with God. It’s free will. Nobody forces me to do it. Right. And that’s what a value energy exchange system ought to look like.
Free will. Exchange between two consenting people with no middleman because a middleman would make it three people. Mutual consent is two. An institutional jerk is three. So we’re trying to get rid of all the jerkiness from the system and let energy and life and freedom and abundance flow between people honestly and fairly and truthfully and get all of the power seekers and rent seekers and control freaks out of the process. Well, that is exciting. I would agree with you. The most exciting part of this system is this idea of peer to peer payment systems where we’re conducting business, one party to another, one business to another, without bank intermediaries.
And I want to talk about that in a minute, Jim. But first you put a group together and been providing some education for a group since 2015 or 2016 time as a way of passing and such. I can’t tell you exactly when this, you started doing this. But we didn’t know about these things back then other than Bitcoin, perhaps asset backed currency. We understood that was the end game, but we didn’t know about all these other components, how they’d come together. How long has this really been in the work Jim? Is it a decade? Two decades? How long have they been working on this? Well, it’s, there’s, there’s bits and pieces of the entire system that have, if you’re going to look at it that way, it goes back all the way to the end of the Second World War.
Geopolitically the, the, the US General Generals after the Second World War understood that if they continued down the path that basically was set in motion with Hitler and the transition from Nazi Germany, the Third Reich into the Fourth Reich, which is what happened at the end of the war, they needed to take charge and put back control. Back to the people is the way that our country was founded. So bits and pieces of this has been in process for a long time. Understanding that just at the heart of this is the ability to do transactions country by country and understanding the overall process.
They knew at the time if they were ever to take back geopolitical. One of the elements that they had to change was the banking system of central control. Because he who controls the bank, he controls the money, as Rothschild has said, controls the world. So at the heart of this, at the same time they knew elements of this change had to take place. When did they start working on these elements? Well, when it got to the time that they knew geopolitical they could actually achieve the objective. There was no reason to start on that process until they knew geopolitically that they could actually remove the tyranny of this world and give the.
Give God the give the people their God given rights that God gave us to begin with. And over time the plan was put in place and they as they began to execute the plan, then the silos of that plan began to shift off to sub detail plans. As you would, if you would do any type of planning exercise, you have your overall master plan and then you have subsections off. As they got to the point of the master plan that they knew that they would achieve their objective, then they started developing sub plans. One of those pieces of the sub plan was the change of the way that the world looked at finance.
Not just money, not just currency, but finance in general. And they knew that they had to get back to an ability to to not only value set that, but they had to have the three elements in any financial system be fair balanced throughout all countries. So they had to have the ability of countries not going through a World Trade Organization to control how you trade. But they had to have countries with their value set to be equal to another country that they wanted to trade with with their value set. So that a plan was put in place to allow well to put to set forth the process by which all countries would Be able to achieve a fair and balanced international trade structure country by country.
That’s one element. I will. The second thing is they needed to understand that if they were able to achieve a fair and balanced trade structure that the currency used to that couldn’t be manipulated. In other words, you couldn’t change the value of it to achieve a political objective. So they then set out on the course of what should be the means of how we value the currency. They got to the point let’s just take the assets of the world and allow that to be consistent of the value set of all currencies. Then they found out that basically God given principles is God gave us the assets of this world and God says that there’s abundance and as you and he gave them for us to use for our entire life and it doesn’t replenish.
So they started to say how do we measure the assets of the world by country in order to get an asset value to determine the currency? And it went on from that. But they then knew that if they had a stabilized currency with assets that never depleted, therefore the value set would be the same from now on. That they could treat trade agreements on a fair and balanced basis with a currency that can’t be manipulated. And then the final thing was if we can do that, then we need to have a financial system that doesn’t allow a center of control to take place but a sovereign based process that allow the citizens to control their own assets, which was God’s given right to begin with.
Control their assets with an oversight to ensure the the assurity that the system will continue to operate with standard weights, measures, truth, accountability, verifiability, storage, pullbacks, all the stuff necessary if things go awry, somebody can step in and actually begin to correct what’s taking place so they can eliminate as much as possible of the evilness of this world in use of that system. So it’s been good, it’s been a process for a long time. But there’s elements that started along the way. But it initially started back right after World War II. You know, as I’ve tried to explain and I can only do it in an overview fashion this new system in the system execution people say to me, why do you got to bring politics into it? Why do you got to bring.
Well Jim, you can’t talk about the new financial system. I think you alluded to this. Without the geopolitics coming into play, isn’t that correct? Or they’re so closely intertwined. Well, yeah, I mean the intersection of life is the intersection of governmental control and finance. That’s the intersection of our life from a standpoint of living in this world. So if you don’t understand what God said about what your government should do to begin with, then you’re not going to elect the right officials along the way. That’s going to give you the God given rights that God gave you and provide you the sovereignty that he gave us to live in this world.
The government’s job by scripture is not to govern the people. The government’s job worldwide is to minister to the people. That’s by scripture. They’re to be ministers to the people. They’re there to protect the poor, protect the borders, give all of the security to the people, but allow the people to be people, not slaves. And that’s what their job is. We have been so programmed over not only our lifetime, but you know, it started way back in time that we need to have people to tell us what to do and give us what we need. Instead of us knowing that basically God’s principles we were to work for what we need, he’ll provide for that and we then get control of our own sovereignty life.
If you depend upon the government, you’re going to be in slavery immediately. Wherever you get your marching orders from, that’s who’s going to control you. So you either get controlled from the world or control from our heavenly source. And so this process of understanding the differences between geopolitical and finance, it’s like the two headed sword or two sided swords. One side is politics, one side is finance. If one doesn’t control you, the other one will until you understand how to will the sword properly. And you need to have not only a financial system that works for the people, but you have to have a government that also works for the people.
And that becomes a process whereby we have to elect number one. We have to have discernment of who’s running for office. In biblical history, the church was responsible for the elected officials of the government, their government. And we need to understand that there were two governments all along the way. If you go back to Roman Empire, there was a Roman Empire government and there was a Jewish government, the church, two governments all along the way. Why was there a rift between the Jewish, Jewish leadership as they were called in government, church and Caesar or Pilate. When Pilate says I don’t see any fault with Christ in, in the Roman law, if he’s done something against the church, against your law, then you prosecute.
But see, the church didn’t want to do that, that’s the same thing. Our shadow government that we think, we think we have now has been in place since the time of creation, and it’s been here throughout all of history. And there’s always been two governments. We don’t understand that. The nation of Israel had their own government called the Mosaic Law. The empires had their government called whatever it is, Egyptian law, Persian law, Syrian law, you know, P law, Roman law, whatever. There’s always been two governments in this, in this world. And we just need to realize that the intersection of that is the balance between what we allow, that’s key, what we allow our government to take charge of instead of we the people.
And that means you got to learn scripture to understand that. And how do you take and balance the use of that as, as a tool of protection and ministry to the people? And how do you then are able to take the ability to transact business on a worldwide basis that exists today, that didn’t exist then? Okay, that’s about it. Oh, in essence, the government and the financial system neither have worked for we the people for a long time. And that’s what’s so exciting here. We do have a system as it executes that should work if left to good vices and not the power of evil should work for we the people.
And that’s really exciting. Rob, I want to come back to you because people are either paying attention or they’re not. Those that are paying attention to this shift and change have a lot of questions about how the system will execute. And those that are not paying attention are going to have a pretty huge learning curve. How do you think this is going to be revealed or put out to the people? And what kind of education do you suppose will come into play? How are people going to learn how to execute and use this new system? Great question.
I think it’s the core question because we so do. And I’m guilty as charged, brother. We over complicate what’s actually happening in the world. Okay, I. To answer your question directly, I think people are going to experience it first. They’re going to experience the fruit from the tree, they’re going to experience benefits in their lives, and then they’re going to finally go, okay, now I. Okay, tell me again how this happened. Now they’re going to relax a little bit. Now they’re going to maybe humble themselves. Now people are afraid. They’re scared. They’re at peak division, they’re at peak, you know, confusion.
Okay. And so clarity. We need clarity. We need peace. We need $2 a barrel gas. We need the debt to go away. We need our purchasing power to give us some relief. We don’t need our houses foreclosed. We don’t need people, you know, inspecting our our underwear drawer to see if we reported all of our taxes right to Caesar. Okay? We need to have relief. And then and only then. Scotty, I think some people are wired for discovery and curiosity and humility and a ceaseless curiosity to want to know and seek with all our heart, mind, soul and strength.
A lot of people aren’t. A lot of people just want to be told what to think. They don’t want to put in the work. They don’t want to understand the systems. They don’t want to study scripture. They don’t. They just want the government to tell us what to do and fix our boo boos and give me a check and they think everything will work out. Hunky dory. What Jim said earlier is just so brilliant is government is not here to control us even though govern. Mint. What have you changed the E to I in mint? What would govern meant mean? They would meant control.
Govern means control. Mint means to manufacture. Governance comes from within its self. Government. Government is imposed on us from the outside. Okay, so the real job of governance is to steward principles and defend principles, not control man’s behavior. It is to steward wisely the timeless, indestructible, indivisible laws and principles of the God that created this joint so we can live in abundance and freedom and on purpose. But when man decides they’re God and they all want to be Caesar and they’re all running around like narcissist trying to write as many rules and regulations to control us as possible so they can stuff money in their pocket and tell everybody how great they are.
Well, if a person doesn’t have those principles or the capacity to demonstrate those timeless principles in themselves, why the hell would we give them an elected office? I mean, my people are destroyed for their lack of knowledge. And if we hire a bunch of AOCs and Maxine Waters and Joe Bidens and Obamas and Bushes and Clintons and we put them in office, what the hell do we expect to happen? If these people can’t organize themselves and sort themselves out and don’t have any healthy fruit from their individual tree, how the hell are they going to steward fruitful trees across America or the world? I mean, look at these freaks like Klaus Schwab and George Soros and the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and.
And all the idiots that we put into Office. And then we want to shoot each other because the idiot didn’t make our lives better. Well, who’s the idiot? The one we put in office or the one, you know, the one in office or the ones who put him in office? Yeah. Well, we put a group of people in office that have intended to divide and conquer us. But what I’m hearing, Rob, and make sense is people are just going to experience the new system, for example, and then we’re going to get to witness to them. Then when the student is ready, the teachers will appear.
Or as the scripture says, the harvest is plenty and the workers are few. But when people go, wow, that was a really good meal, I think I might go back there and eat again. Wow. You know, Jim really opened my eyes. Wow. Scotty gives me some great information. I’m going to come back and listen to all 10 parts of this series. But they have to want to consume. They have to be hungry. We can’t put them in a headlock and jam food down their neck, you know, and make them understand what it is that we’re trying to explain from a system standpoint.
And that’s when we get into the transgrometer and the, and the transactions per second speed and the interoperability and the. Which blockchain and which technician and which CEO is cooler than which CEO, you know, and here we go, you know, now we’re losing ourselves in the granular details of the system and we’re missing the plot. Okay, we’re, we’re turning over the money changer tables, as Jesus did. Remember, he did say that these things I’ve done, you can do an even greater things. So he flipped over the money changer tables in one government. I would say flipping them over in 207 governments is greater than one government.
It doesn’t make us Jesus, but it means what we’re trying to do now is a greater undertaking than what he did in the temple. You know, and probably a lot of people applauded when Jesus got killed because they hated the guy, because they didn’t understand who he was. Right. A lot of people supported it. A lot of people, go, get that radical out of here. He’s messing up my comfort in my own head. I don’t like the guy. I don’t understand him. So kill him. And what are we seeing happen with Trump? They don’t understand what he’s doing.
They don’t understand the alliance. They don’t even know what money is. All they know is they gotta hate somebody. So it might as well Be him. Scotty, I want to add something to what he said. You know, people have got to understand their individual value sets. They got to understand at the heart of what God created. You are the currency. You are the source of the energy inside of this world, connected one to another. And what the Bible says, what you do affects everyone in the world. You are the currency. You are the flow of that energy that creates value one way or the other, either a positive value or a negative value.
That understanding the principle that you are at the heart of all currency. And currency is not a term to identify what we call gold, silver, platinum, or even paper dollars. Currency is a flow. That’s the definition of currency. Currency. What is it? Currency. You don’t find currency in the Bible at all. That term came in, in 1650 and was. And it was used to define a flow, an electrical flow. Electrical flow, energy, Energy. Electricity. An element of energy is what we are. Right? Right. And it wasn’t. It was redefined by the bankers in 1750. Okay. To match what they were fixing to do at the, at the central bank level.
And they made currency, a word of identification of money. That’s what they did. So when you understand the biblical principle of what money is, and then you take what we’ve been programmed to understand that as currency, we need to separate the truth. The truth is you are the currency, we are the currency. And things flow to the energy that’s put out. That’s the reason why does the Bible say pay people for what their value is? What’s their value? Whatever energy they put forth to the work that they do, pay them a value. So we have to understand at the heart of everything is us.
Until people understand us, they’re not going to understand anything. Because change theory in any business setting or whatever you want, you can’t change anything unless you first change yourself to believe what you’re going to change. At the heart of this, people have to begin to change their mindset and their belief system in understanding what is truth, what is value, what is energy, and everything above that is just how do you transact? But at the heart of this is you. And people have to understand that the energy that they put forth, whatever force of energy you put forth into a system, gets a reciprocal energy return.
Law of reciprocity. Yeah. And that’s the reason why you have all these laws associated with blessings from God himself. You do this, I’m going to do this. You can’t receive anything for God unless you give God’s people a like kind of whatever you Want. That’s the reason why giving to the church is so important. If you want the blessings financially from God, you better give to his people. You better provide for the poor, you better provide for the needy. You better provide for the ministry. You better provide. Provide those things. Our whole baseline of who we are is predicated on what we understand of this world and not what we understand of who God is.
Until we get back to understanding who God is, we will never understand who we are. And because of that, some people are going to fall off the wayside. Yeah, that’s what we’re been talking about outside of this show. There’s a lot of talk about raising the bar, raising our level of consciousness. And Rob, before we let you go, I think you talk about the experiential level. People are going to have to learn the system. They’re going to have to experience it. They’re sure going to know we’re in a new system when they’re told, go online and set up a wallet because you no longer need a bank account.
That’s going to shock the world, I think, into reality of, wow, this is a new world we’re living in. So, Rob, would you agree that will be the most profound part of the learning experience for people is when they’re told they no longer need a bank account. They got to go online and set up, I guess they call it a wallet. They’ve already been told, Let me give you an example. Right now, the whole world right now is free to go. Seven billion people can go set up an account, direct deposit, straight to a bank called twitter x.com direct deposit gets 6% on your money.
You got a wallet just like a cash app wallet, okay? It uses Cross river bank, which is the same bank that Ripple uses, is the same bank that Uphold uses. You can. You can use direct deposit, get 6%, or you can stay at bank of America and get half a percent. Your choice. You can go set up a wallet right now and have it and start using it and earn 6% and stake it and learn to start to learn. Or you can stay in the old system because you know that crypto is the mark of the beast.
If that’s what you’re going to tell yourself, you’re going to close the book and you’re never going to learn another dang thing about we. What? What about what we’ve been trying to teach people, Okay? I mean, look, you get rid of it. What if you don’t have bankers and towers and golf tournaments and PGAs and fat and friction and antiquated blockbuster like systems all over the world. And you don’t have to support that. And all you got is an app. You can probably be, if you’re in compliance and you’re being honest and lawful and truthful, and you don’t have all that infrastructure, you can probably pay 6% instead of a half a percent.
Right? I mean, we’re living through the blockbuster to Netflix transition right now, and a lot of people just refuse to look at it, or they want it, they’re afraid of it. But I want to, I want to sum up one thing very, very quick, if you don’t mind, just to sort of level set so people watching this can understand. Why would 200 countries or 150 countries want to do this? We need to understand that although there are biblical and scriptural eternal laws and principles at play here on what money is supposed to be and what value is, and how we’re supposed to interact with one another as fellow human beings and fellow sons and daughters of God, let’s take religion completely out of it.
How would we create an international standard? Let’s define what is money. Okay, Sound money. The term sound money came from the thing that it had to be backed by something like gold or silver. When you drop gold or silver on the desk, it would make a sound. So there had to be value behind the unit, the dollar, the money. That’s why where the term sound money came from. So by definition, money is supposed to be a unit of account, a store of value, and a medium of exchange, something that we can exchange back and forth. That’s not religious, that’s not Hindu, Muslim, Christian, atheist, that’s nothing.
That’s just math. Okay, so how are we going to work together? What’s the medium? The medium for us all working together in a system of truth is math. Transparent, inspectable, verifiable, oath rendered, ledgered math that everyone can see. Math isn’t Hindu. Math isn’t Russian. Math isn’t Japanese. Math isn’t Italian. Math is math. Okay? So if we’re going to have a system of honest weights and measures, mathematically honest weights and measures, transparency and accountability, then truth becomes the system that we can have this interoperable currency exchange system without a central bank where everyone can see what’s going on.
And this system has nothing to do with your religion, it has nothing to do with your understanding of, you know, God or Jesus or Buddha or Hare Krishna or whoever. Math is math. Truth is truth. And this system is protocol, is, is predicated on the principle of honest weights and measures that everyone can see and inspect. So the world is moving from trust us to prove it. Not institutional says so. Jamie Dimon says, the bank of America says, the Federal Reserve says to show me the ledger. Let me see. Did you record what I reported? Is it on the record? Is it on 200 ledgers? And is it going to be there for 2,000 years? Is it true or false? I don’t care what you’re telling me.
I want to see the truth and the evidence. That’s how this system is being level set. And although there’s a lot of spiritual components involved in here, it has nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with math, period. Rob, we appreciate that. It’s a great thought to leave you on before you go tell our listeners where they can find Rob Cunningham. Sure. Just right there on the screen if you’re seeing it. Cool. K U W L dot show and or I’ve spent a lot of time on on X and I got a sub stack YouTube and and channels like yours, Scotty.
So thank you for having me. Yeah, we appreciate you Rob. Take care. Thanks. Well, when we come back, we’re up against a break folks. When we come back we’ll have financial insights from Joe Lombardi from Ironhawk Financial. And we’ll be right back. We’ll see after the break. This is Scotty Saks here. If you’re watching the video series the Future of Money and Finance sponsored by our good friends at Ironhawk Financial, you’re probably well schooled in the money system that we’ve been living in for decades. So let me ask you a question. Why should the wealthy and elite bankers have all the best financial strategies? Why is it reserved for them? Well, Joe Lombardi, America’s financial qb.
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Go to gowith hawk.com and learn more. That’s gowith hawk.com gowith hawk.com tell them Sovereign Radio Scotty Saxon, Jim Pugh sent you. Thank you very much for listening. Welcome back to the future of money and Finance. This is part nine, system execution. It’s that time again where we bring in America’s financial QB Joe Lombardi for financial insights. He’ll bring this down to a level that he understands as a financial wealth manager. Welcome back, Mr. Joe Lombardi. How are you? Good. How you doing, brother? Doing good. It’s good to see you. You’ve been backstage listening. What do you make of all this system execution stuff? Well, I mean, I believe the devil’s in control of a lot.
I believe evil has perpetrated every facet of our culture, of our government. And I believe slowly we are trying to take it back. So I believe that everything Rob has said and Jim has said makes perfect sense because it’s written in the bible from what we’re supposed to be doing versus what we have been doing. And there, there should be a point in time where things change. We’re guaranteed death, taxes and change. And when you look at the financial sector, I’m very excited for the change that’s coming. It’s going to make all of our lives easier.
It’s going to allow us to take more accountability and stop relying on big government. Because when you rely on big government, it doesn’t help you. People trade their security for freedom and they get to the point where they’re so secure that they have no freedom now. They have no security either. So it’s important these financial changes coming and I’m excited. You know, Joe, there’s a reason you’re sitting here working with us on this episode, on these 10, this 10 part series, in addition to being a plus rated by the Better Business Bureau and a 5.0 rating on Google, we are truly aligned.
We see things the same way. And I think most of our audience that’s following the series sees the evil in the world as you pointed out. The evil. I mean, after all, isn’t this all good versus evil and God versus Satan and we the people against this deep state that’s been perpetrating the fiat money system. And as the fiat money system shifts to this system, Joe, what do you, what do you see as the biggest change for you as a guy that’s managing people’s money? What, what’s the biggest thing you’re up against? Yeah, I mean, I’m excited.
It takes about a month from client meets with me. Hey Joe, I want to give you a million dollars. You have to do an application, you have to go through suitability. I have to fill out a transfer form. I have to send the transfer form over to the client. The client has to wet sign the transfer form because companies aren’t accepting e sign, which is, you know, frustrating, which hopefully will change with new technology. And, and then that form has to be sent to the seating carrier. Then that seating carriers department has to send send it to the company we’re getting the money from and then that money has to be sent over once.
So I believe that when the blockchain, the new money system comes into place, someone says, hey Joe, love your strategy. Want to roll a million dollars? It’ll be done within seconds instead of waiting a month. The client not knowing where its funds are. It’s got to be nerve wracking for a client that, let’s say as you know, a million or 5 million or you know, even 100,000. And it’s like, where’s my money? It’s not showing up on my statement here when I log into my account, it’s not showing up at the new carrier. And it’s just in the middle of the world floating around.
So I believe it’s going to bring a lot of less stress, less fear within, you know, my industry of moving money to better places from the traditional banking and traditional investments. You know, you have really said that this new system doesn’t really change a lot for you. It just makes things move faster. And so this wasteland called the float that the banks play, using our money for days, that gets removed from part of the system, doesn’t it? The float is gone with the new system. Well, when you, when you transfer money, right? And it just held by the bank, the banks, first of all, they’re not dumb.
Second of all, they’re making money on your money. Like if you try to take money out of Robinhood, you try to take money out of Kraken or you try to take money out of Coinbase, you try to take money out of PayPal, there’s always a delay, days. Oh, this might take three to five days. Well, what are they doing with your money? They’re making interest on it while they’re holding it. They can send it that same day. They can go in the ledger. They have fast enough technology to at least start the old traditional process to move the money, money that minute.
Why would they do that? They would lose money by ripping you off, not ripping you off. So when you look at it, it’s going to take out a lot of the money changers, which, you know, God came into the temple and kicked the table of money changers and it’s going to allow people to have more freedom on their money. Very interesting. Jim, jump in. I’m enjoying the conversation. It’s nice to, to see, to see how Joe has a take on all of this. You know, the system is going to make Joe’s life a lot easier. The system is going to be a lot faster.
As Joe pointed out, people are going to get, feel more secure in doing transactions that they want to do for fear of loss today that they just status, status quo because they got it and they know where it’s at and they, you know, I, I spoke to a lady last night who says, I, I’ve got X amount of money in the bank and I, Jim, I, I trust you and I want, I want to go do this thing that you, you and Joe and Scotty have set up. But I don’t want to move my money out of the bank because I don’t know where it’s going to go and how, how long it’s going to take to get there.
And you know, so, so it’s that type of, that type of mindset that is really going to get improved. People are going to, matter of fact, the system is going to speed up and grow the economy faster than what people can understand for the simplicity of transaction. That’s it. All right. And you know, I, I close to what’s going on. As you pointed out, economy is driven by demand. If you really think of it, and if we hold the system in a process point that people can’t move fast enough to take part of that demand, then what we’ve done is we slowed the economy down and this system will speed it up and the economy will grow much faster.
Besset and his people are now coming out talking about that. It was a big part of G20 that they talked about. This week was the change of a system, the ability of faster transactions. The faster transactions will have more economic benefit because they will allow them to experience participation in demand structures that will grow the economy much faster. People don’t understand how all of this works, the inner network of everything, and that’s again a learning tool. But people don’t need to understand that. All people want to do is, I have money and I want to spend it, I want to spend it on this and I want to do it as fast as I can.
We’re an instantaneous society. The system is going to make it even more instantaneous for you. So it’s going to be great all around, but it’s not going to be the all end all either. All right? This system is got all of the bells and whistles that everybody can think about to ward off evil, but in everything there’s evil. But the mindset of everybody that created this is still evil at some point. All right? So we’ve just got to pay attention, we’ve got to be careful, we’ve got to be diligent and we need to, to understand that we’re in control and we have the ability to now take charge of our own lives, which is going to be a beautiful thing.
Sure is. Joe. As we see this new system execute, people are working with you. This system doesn’t really change your products, your services, your strategies, does it? That nothing really changes as far as what you offer people, does it? No. I mean, we still have a level of suitability. I still have to take a full, full intake form. I still have to take notes, recordings, you know, communicate with clients, show them what they need to do, why they need to do it, how it benefits them, the cons, the pros. So that aspect of my business, the meat of it, you know, the 7702 plan, the rollovers, the fix and next annuities, Taking your money out of the government’s control and, and taking them out of banks that, you know, the Dodd Frank Act 2010 can just wipe all your money.
And it’s, it’s just trying to show clients this is what the wealthy do and this is why they do it. And is this suitable for you? That message and that strategy, the, the presentation, the illustration, the intake form, the application, all that has been getting better over time. I used to have to take 58 page paper applications. Now I, now I’m national and I could just go on a zoom meeting, you know, or Jitsi meeting and just show people exactly what they need to do, take the application over, you know, the meeting. So it. Life has been getting easier and easier and easier in regards for doing this for a quarter century.
However, it’s going to get to a point where it’s too easy, where people are just going to want to go to AI Financial and then they eliminate the humans altogether from the strategy. And so that is going to come whenever you have like, you know, an ease of doing business. The. The human is not as needed or valuable in regards to it. There will be a time, if not in my career, my son is coming to work with me in his career. I believe that’s going to happen. And until that happens, I’m just screaming from the rooftop, don’t go to the traditional, you know, investments.
Because that’s ultimately what the end game is, is to eliminate the human and then they control all because AI doesn’t think so. It’s, it’s really, it’s pros and cons both ways. But as we are building this, I’m really enjoying it. It’s like the time of needing a check to go to the grocery store. Remember we used to write out checks at the grocery store. Now we literally just tap our phone or tap a card. So there is going to be an ease. You just have to be very careful of. Whenever you give up something of value to get something of value.
Just know that if you, what you’re giving up over time can come back and, and you know, bite you. So as Jim said, we have to be very cognizant of what’s going on. What’s the regulatory body, you know, if we create this account, changing your habits, which is very hard because the government’s very good at programming us. They do it from a young age. Putting a globe in a classroom when you’re three years old. So when you see it, we have been programmed and we have to try to figure out how do we change our habits to grow spiritually, mentally, emotionally, physically and financially and understand that money is the number one thing spoken about in the Bible.
Not how to be a good Christian, not how to be a good neighbor. Money. It’s, it’s very important to make sure that when we have our money, which basically is our trade value of our time and our time is our most valuable asset given to us by Yahusha. When, when you understand that that is what’s most important, what are you going to do at that time? What. Whatever currency it is in, you know, that to me is very, very valuable to plan your future self, you know, protect your present self and I believe that these blockchain systems, these type of improvements to our financial system are going to make all of those things easier to achieve.
Scotty, can I add something real quick? Yeah, sure, go ahead, jump in. Okay. One of the things that I think it’s important for the audience to understand is there was a shift from that, everybody knows, called the District act of 1871 that created Washington D.C. and moved us into a corporation system of bankruptcy. And one of the big fallacies that exist today is if you let your money stay within that corporate system, you’re governed by the rules that were set by Congress within that corporate system. And the one I want to speak about is the Patriot Act.
The Patriot act has the ability to take everything that you own that’s residing in a banking or financial institutional controlled, regulated by the Feds. Your money has everything. They could take it tomorrow and there’s not a thing you can do with it. One of the things that I think people really, really need to understand is that what gave me the very, very comfort that Ironhawk was the right way to go was all of the baseline system processes that Joe has established providing for his clients is pre1871 law. Okay? It’s outside of the corporation now. While there’s standards and governance that has been created to regulate that organization, the baseline of that standard system is outside of the corporation’s control because the laws of establishment was done before 1871.
That’s critical in this because now you have the opportunity of getting out of the corporate system into a pre system before that with all of the protection mechanism that that has to offer to you in securitizing your current assets. And I don’t think people realize that today. Yeah, I would agree with that. You know, Joe, as you speak, I have to smile because I’ve never heard a guy in your shoes that’s managing money talk about people’s physical, emotional and spiritual well being. It’s always been, show me the money. You know, just tell me how much you want to put on the table here and I’ll.
I’ll manage it. Is it a million? Is it 5 million? I don’t think your industry has given a flip about people’s physical, emotional and spiritual well being. So it’s really good to hear you talk about that. Joe, you mentioned 7702. That’s a tax, IRS tax code. And there’s a legal loophole there. Explain that. And then what happens when, if and when. And we believe it’s coming that the IRS is eliminated. How does that change what you do? So I want to piggyback off Jim, you know, the pre1871, these companies were established in 1848, 1847, 1845. So you’re talking about New York Life, 1845.
You’re talking about Penn Mutual, 1847. Wow. I didn’t realize they’ve been around that long. National Life Group, 1848. So when you, when you, and, and again, these are just state governed accounts. They were before federal. You think of Mass Mutual, Massachusetts Mutual. You, you think of New York Life, New York Mutual of Omaha. These, these companies were, were state owned and run before the Federal Reserve came into play and those grandfathered in. So when, when you understand that that is the core of it, which Jim, you hit it on the head perfectly. It, you, you eliminate a lot of the risks that you sustain in corporate.
And, and when you, when you understand that the, the value of these type of strategies really elevate and protect your money, you remove these demonic forces, you remove the, the, what I call the demonic leeches, the federal government and Wall street out of your life, sucking all your money. And, and, and when I do planning with clients, I come from a place of, you know, God, he gave me a gift. He’s giving me a responsibility. Thousands of clients, billion dollars of protection and rollovers. I, he gave me the power through talent, hard work, grit, to be in a position where I am monitoring people’s ability to eat 20 years from now, people’s ability to bury their loved ones 20 years from now, the ability to keep people out of jail cells known as nursing homes 20 years from now.
And, and bringing value into people’s lives greater than anything I could have ever asked for from the Almighty. And it’s very nice to be around like minded people like yourself, Scotty, Rob and Jim who share my values, share my beliefs, share what I believe in and what I see coming. And it’s, it’s fun to be honest. Yeah, I knew we were aligned when I heard you on a podcast a while back. I’m paraphrasing, I’m not quoting you. You basically said there are demonic forces picking your pocket around every corner. And I said to myself, boy, we can all relate to that.
But I want to go back to this tax code thing. Joe, explain to our audience from 10,000ft, what is this? 7702. You use this IRS tax code. And, and how does it affect, is it going to change when the IRS goes away? Does that code go away? And what happens when that when that occurs. So the 7702 is embedded in a permanent life insurance policy. If the wrapper around that life insurance policy is leaving your beneficiaries money legally tax free. If you over fund money inside that wrapper, all those dollars fall underneath that same code. And so if you’re able to, let’s say the policy needs a hundred dollars a month and you’re able to put a thousand dollars a month into it, that extra $900 is just going straight into buying option contracts under the wrapper where you can’t lose.
It’s sue proof, has HIPAA laws protecting you. No creditors can find it, no banks can find it. It’s, it’s the, I mean, wealthy people built this code for them almost two, 200 years ago. And the Rockefeller strategy is the, the Rockefellers are the ones who really took it and ran with it when they had the same net worth as, as Henry Ford. And now Henry Ford’s broke and the Rockefellers are trillionaires. So when you look at it from a standpoint, they use this code and I’m screaming, Ben. Screaming will continue to be screaming as long as God gives me breath and the powers that be leave me alone.
I will continue to keep screaming this until, you know, people at least say they didn’t know. Scotty, when I was, when I was on. One of the things when I was in the bank was I was doing tax shelters for the rich. Okay. Part of my, my history and what I think what. And Joe, I don’t want to talk over you, but I want to try to, I want to try to explain in my language and then you can jump back in. I know you got a heart out here, just a few minutes, but the tax code gives you the condition today to shelter money under what Joe’s doing without taxes, without loss.
If the tax code goes away, it doesn’t matter anyway because what’s already taken place in the option contracts associated with that, the laws still protect you under that scenario, regardless of whether their tax law exists or doesn’t. With the irs, it’s irrelevant to this. It is a means to an end only, and it’s a means to an end today, not tomorrow. All right? It gives you the ability to shelter all of the money you want to shelter outside of the tax system legally inside the tax system, inside the United States and not offshore. That’s what it does.
Everything else about it, IRS goes away, whatever, it’s irrelevant in the future. Joe, I said to somebody the other day, they were asking me about you because they’re watching the series and they wanted to understand more. And I had said to them, in 25 years, Joe’s never lost a dollar for a client. They said, how is that possible? So you’re here now tell our audience how it’s possible. You don’t lose money. Well, I’ll end with this and then I gotta run. I’ve never lost a client a dollar because I don’t give my clients inherited risk. They don’t own any risk, they own a derivative or a bet on risk.
And their money is stored inside of insurance company. And in order to be insurance company legally have to pay a dividend. So the only thing that we are investing is the dividend from the insurance company. So if you lose the dividend, the market went down, your all your contracts became worthless. Guess what you get next year? Another dividend to replace your loss. So it always makes you whole because of the container of your money, how you structured it, not what you bought, but how you bought, how you handle your money. So being able to leverage the insurance company, the dividend, the billion dollar block for extreme discounts on option contracts you can’t get anywhere else.
And, and having the ability to have over a one to one ratio, it, it just works. And it works very, very well. And, and there’s no risk of loss if it’s structured right. With the right carrier, right riders, right particip participation rate, right option contracts, you can do this strategy and get hosed. So you have to make sure that when you do this strategy, it is ironclad. It’s built in the beginning the right way, it’s structured the right way to give yourself flexibility and it gives you the ability to change it in the future without causing a massive loss to your financial life.
And with that, I love you guys, man. I’ll see you guys next week. Okay, Joe, thanks. Appreciate you. Bye bye. Yeah, it’s a good, I think it was a good strategy on our part to align with Iron Hawk Financial. Jim, I know you’re keen on their strategies and what they do. Let’s wrap up this episode. Jim, the system execution, how the elements combine, what’s the key to the system execution? What should we be looking out for when it comes to this new system coming into play? Well, the system’s already in place from a technological base. It’s already being used country by country in settlement of trades.
What is not being used is what we consider the retail banking side of this. And there’s a lot of things that had to be put in place to do that because the bankers were making this interest off a float and they wanted that interest to come back to them after the change of system, which they don’t have any money in the system to go do that. They just wanted that, that watershed of profits. They wanted to keep that in their, in their operating statement as income. And that is what the fight over the Clarity act does.
So if I were to say anything that we need to watch for is watch how the SEC and all of its component agencies set forth their policy guidelines with regards to cryptocurrency that’s going to provide you the understanding will you get your interest on your money back or will the banks still get that as a, as a watershed moment in their lives without even any funds going through the bank? That’s where it is. The Clarity act will come out at a date, really solidifying it. But if I were to put my hat on, that’s what you need to watch for.
Once that gets in place and the rules and that and the guidelines are done and the agencies are trained, then the next thing I think you would look at is to begin to release the, the retail componentry of the new financial system. Very well said. And Jim, what’s your expectation when this goes retail? The BRICs have been using this system for a long. Isn’t the BRICS based on the system essentially? Well, no, you gotta understand what the brics intention were. The BRICS was to provide the framework of notifying the world that a change was going to be.
They’re still operating inside of the Swift system, the old system, because that’s the only way that they could transfer money until their back ends. Just like the US Their back ends were plugged into the system and this international settlement, bank of International settlement accepted that and settled country by country. They built a process just like we built the process with all of the blockchain technology, all of the stablecoin system, all of the tokenization in place. And they said now, we’re ready to go now. And so what is going on is all countries, all countries are moving into the blockchain processing and Swift has already been tied into this.
The messaging system of Swift has gone away. We’re now on a ledger based transaction. HBAR is used to close out all transactions from Canadian banks. All of these, all of these tokens are being rolled into place now. And as soon as that is all done, everything will be clear and go. So that’s what we need to just pay attention to, just see how, see how that works. And the other thing I can say is don’t look from the weeds up on what’s going on in the world. Just take what it is and put it together in a 60,000 foot and look down.
Because then you can start connecting the dots. You’ll not connect the dots. If you’re taking one piece of information, look upward and see how it fits. You need to look downward and see the whole thing take shape. So is there a timeline, Jim, for this to all go retail? Because that’s the only thing left to do is bring it to a retail level where. Well, there’s all kinds of timelines. Okay. And it’s event driven. So there’s no end date to this. All right, Just. And if there was, then treasury would have reported it by this date.
We’re going to have this new system. They’re getting closer and closer and closer to that. The G20 was evidence of that, of how Bassett told the world what they were going to do and all this stuff. But there’s no hard, hard date yet there. It’s an event driven action. And as events unfold, then that date becomes closer and closer and closer. Very important to note, it is event driven. People wonder what Trump campaigned on. No wars. And here he is in Iran. That’s part of the events that need to take place. Removal the infrastructure of the deep state banking system, their state sponsored terrorism, the drugs, the human trafficking.
And Iran’s a part of that, isn’t it, Jim? Yep. Iran’s a puppet state controlled by the 13 families as the terrorist organization for worldwide fear terrorist activities. And what Trump’s fighting is not the Iranian people and really not what we would think as the Iranian government. They’re fighting the military. That is the military of terrorists for the 13 ruling families. And that’s what they’re taking out. So you see the strategic bombing to that event. You don’t see it on major, just cities leveling. Cities leveling infrastructure for the people. You’re seeing a very, very specific target. And that target package has been now moved into Europe, by the way, in order to get these 13 families to move.
And Bessett with his economic D Day operation. These people are going to acquiesce pretty quick. Yeah, Besant, as you said, told the G20 that we’re going to a new system. And interestingly enough, I saw a January 2026 speech that Howard Ludnick gave to the World Economic Forum where he told him globalism failed, that it has failed and it will be replaced. And I thought that was pretty profound that we’re telling we’re now Besant and Scott Besant and Howard Ludnick are telling the world and the cabal to their face that your system feels failed. And there’s a new sheriff in town essentially, isn’t there? Yeah.
Yeah. Scott’s very bold in his instruction to the world. Couldn’t be a better guy in that office seat right now. He knows how to take the heads off the snake. Yeah. It’s exciting time. Jim, tell our audience where they can find you. You can find me on guys.com and anywhere you get your podcast underneath government. Thanks, Jim. We’ll see you next week. You’re welcome, Scotty. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we’re trying to keep these episodes to an hour. It’s getting hard to do because there’s so much good information that Rob and Jim and now Joe bring to the table here.
So it’s very important that we just let it flow so we’re not creating a hard stop in an hour. And we’re an hour and 15 minutes essentially now. But we’ll be back next week with episode 10. My, oh my, time has flown by. We’re already on episode 10. We’ll wrap up the 10 part series. It’s a wrap up. We’ll kind of highlight the first nine parts of this ten part series. This is the future of money and finance and we appreciate you sticking with us. You can find parts one through seven. They’re now posted, I believe maybe through part eight today will be up so you can find them@ sovereignradio.com login to the online shows and you’ll find this entire series.
So let it wrap us up for part nine system execution. We’ll see you next week for part ten. You’ve been watching the future of money and finance. This is Scotty Saks, over and out.
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