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Summary
➡ The text is a conversation among a group of people who practice remote viewing, a type of psychic ability. They come from diverse backgrounds, including medicine, visual arts, and shamanism. They discuss their experiences and projects, which range from exploring Mars to investigating historical mysteries. They believe that their diverse backgrounds enrich their work, as each person brings a unique perspective to the projects.
➡ The text discusses a group’s exploration of an ancient civilization that possibly existed on Mars and Earth. They believe this civilization faced a catastrophic event, forcing some to escape to Earth. The group also discusses their investigation into a shroud, which they believe may have belonged to an enlightened being. Their findings suggest the existence of advanced knowledge and structures, similar to those found in Egypt, and hint at a deep, spiritual connection to the past.
➡ The text describes a profound experience with a seemingly magical being who radiates love and helps people transform and raise their frequency. This being, who feels like a hybrid and not entirely human, is compared to figures from New Age books and is seen as channeling a love frequency. The experience is described as beautiful, radiant, and transformative, with a sense of being bathed in love. The being is also seen in dreams, helping a group of people learn and transform.
➡ The text discusses a powerful experience of communication through a spiritual and biological process. The speaker mentions feeling energetically charged and questioning the reality of what they’re seeing. They also discuss the concept of remote viewing and its potential to change a person. The text further explores the idea of psychic phenomena as a natural ability that everyone possesses but often dismisses due to its subtlety. The speaker suggests that practices like remote viewing can help amplify this ability. They also touch on the scientific explanation behind these phenomena, mentioning concepts like quantum entanglement and the existence of a quantum receiver in our brains.
➡ This discussion revolves around the concept of psychic abilities, particularly remote viewing, and how everyone possesses these abilities to some extent. The speakers share their experiences and challenges in honing these skills, emphasizing the importance of practice, self-understanding, and overcoming fear of failure. They also discuss the impact of external energies and personal issues on their abilities. The conversation concludes with information about a future forecasting group and resources for those interested in developing their own psychic abilities.
➡ This text discusses the personal journey of learning and practicing remote viewing, a method of perceiving information about distant or unseen targets. It emphasizes the importance of mental stability and readiness when exploring this practice, as it can be mentally challenging and potentially harmful for some individuals. The text also highlights the therapeutic and meditative aspects of remote viewing, and how it can help individuals understand themselves better. However, it warns that not everyone is ready for this journey and that it’s crucial to have proper guidance and mentorship.
➡ Edward and Naim are teaching different methods, and soon there will be three or four unique methods under one organization. The speaker encourages people to research thoroughly before choosing a mentor or teacher, as it requires significant time, effort, and money. The speaker also emphasizes that the learning process is highly individual and depends on the learner’s commitment. They express a desire to continue these sessions due to the positive response and the interest in human development and quantum energy.
Transcript
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But there’s another three. The Philadelphia experiment we’re gonna then. And the intruders. Alien intruders. There’s so many cool projects they’re looking at, so we’re going to have them back. But this one today we’re talking about the shroud and we’re talking about pyramids on Mars and what they found. It is absolutely fantastic. I love these conversations, but we talk about what remote viewing is, how all of us have this ability and the human development and how you need to look at it and why it’s important to be responsible while you’re going about doing this and what your intent is.
We talk about all of it. And I think you’ll get a lot out of this conversation as far as remote viewing and whether you want to personally invest time in developing it. I also get into quantum energy a little bit and we talk about how quantum energy is the science behind the, you know, woo world, the spiritual world and how quantum energy is really starting to take shape or we’re starting to understand the science behind this. And to that end I have Ian Mitchell and Philip, my great quantum energy scientists that are leading the world in placebo controlled studies and proving what they’re, you know, with quantum energy they’re proving what they’re doing.
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So again. Sarahwassell.com quantum okay, let’s get into this absolutely fascinating. I love this stuff. Discussion with Daz Smith and the. I gotta tell you, it’s this whole rabbit there, this rabbit hole group there. You know, we got an md, we got a military intel guy, we got people who are into shamanism. We get this whole spectrum. And I’m learning there’s people from all walks of life that are digging into this stuff. So it’s starting to hit mainstream. Here is my conversation with the Rabbit Hole group from the Future Forecasters group. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the program.
Hi there. How are you doing? I’m good. I’m so glad to have you here. I love talking about remote viewing and what’s going on. So many people are interested in this topic. As people are expanding their understanding of what human potential is, they’re so interested. Plus people are like, what the heck’s going to happen in the future here? There’s so much going on and people really want to know. And remote viewers seem to really be tapping into something, a cultural phenomenon. Not only are you helping people understand, you’re actually helping people understand human development and the future.
And Daz, I’ve been working with him. I feel fortunate. Could you inter. Or could you tell everybody who’s here and, you know, give an overview? Yeah, absolutely. We’re waiting for one more, but the people here at the moment are Dennis. I’ve been working with Dennis for a number of years now. For you Future forecasting group, Demi, who’s a student of mine and also Susan, who’s a student of mine as well. So they’ve been down the same path as you have, Sarah. And we’re all now working under the umbrella of this group, the rabbit hole. Down the rabbit hole for Future Forecasting Group.
And I target these guys. I’m. I’m essentially the project manager and I target these guys against mysteries. And we’ve done five or six different mysteries so far and it’s going strong. Wow, that’s really cool. I hope I get to be as good as you guys because I don’t know how to differentiate between. And I think Daz knows this now. I don’t know how to differentiate between things that are coming in versus the target. I think there’s an issue for me, so you guys are going to have to help me understand that. But what kinds of things does the rabbit hole.
You said you had five mysteries. What, what mysteries are you looking into? Well, first introduce the people you have here. Yes, we have Dennis. I don’t know if Dennis now wants to, if each person gives a little bio of themselves. So. Yeah, go ahead, Dennis. Sure, absolutely. I’m a student of Daz’s. We connected through the Future Forecasting Group, former crypto viewing. And Daz took me on, he mentored me, I don’t know, five or six years ago now, and he’s been bringing me into projects ever since. But my background, I have a diverse background actually. I’m a former intelligence agent, counterintelligence agent with the army, turned police officer turned teacher.
And then, you know, in the background, I was moonlighting as just a podcaster and an authority. And you know, slowly through that process, I connected with Daz. Remote viewing has been a lifelong dream of mine and it’s just been an incredible journey. The guidance Daz has given and the opportunities and the things we’ve learned, these mysteries that we’re going to talk about today. Absolutely fascinating what we get to have access to. And let’s go to Dimmy next because she’s next on the screen here for me. Hi Susan. First of all, I’m going to apologize for my English because I’m a non native speaker of English.
So I’ll start with my a few words started like five to six years ago to learn. And that took me, you know, in short time, like in one or two years under his wing. And I cherish this from the bottom of my heart. He’s my mentor, he’s my teacher. As Danny said, I had a lot to learn from, from this, from him and from, from this process. I love the fact that doing RV teach me to not be afraid of death anymore as I was super anxious about it. And this is a thing that I, I can say that I earn for, with, with my soul in doing that.
So otherwise, what can I tell? I’m a medical doctor, I’m an imagist, I’m a homopath, I, I like to read all mystery, esoteric stuff, but I like to be grounded if I can also. So that’s me. Thank you. Excellent. Thanks to me. And last for now but not least, Susan, go for it. Well, I come from a background in the performing visual arts. I’ve been remote viewing for about five years. Most recently I’ve been mentored by Daz for the past couple of years. I just love the process. I’ve always been interested in kind of psychic functioning and precognitive abilities and stuff.
I’ve got a particular interest in dreaming, but I really, really love remote viewing. It’s just, it’s an amazing process. And the kind of the evolution and development within yourself as you do it too, is just extraordinary. Yeah. Awesome. Thanks, Susan. And hi, Carl. Nice to see you. We’re just doing a little bit of an introduction, so if you, if you can, give you a little bit of a bio about yourself. Okay. So I’m. I was a dreamer, a precognitive dreamer when I was a kid. And so I started following shamanism because that was the only thing I knew about how to lucid dream and do that.
And then I was actually looking online. We got the Internet. I was looking online for someone, anyone who could, you know, take me further. And I found Lynn Buchanan and he’d just gone public. They’d just disbanded the unit and he’d just gone public. So I flew from Italy to America and been remote viewing for more than 20 years. That’s how I got there, got connected. Well, you know, what’s amazing is that, and we see this here is the diversity of the people that come together, want to learn about this, and you know, military background versus an MD versus someone who gets into shamanism.
I mean, it’s just such a broad range of people who are all really looking into this. I have a friend who is high level in the Catholic church who really got into remote viewing. So it’s. It’s really interesting. There’s a lot of people from all different walks of life who are starting to recognize this and find it. And that brings such a diversity to the projects that we do to work together. As you’ll see, as. As a team is building, we have this division of effort. Everybody brings back a different piece of the. We don’t all bring back the same data points.
There’s usually overlap, but then we have our own individual aspects that we explore based on our backgrounds and our experiences and interests. And I think because we’re so diverse, it really adds such a rich flavor to what the team’s able to bring together. Yeah, I think so. And then you also see, when you’re looking at a target, you. You see things from your perspective that somebody else just wouldn’t even know to even look at it. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, okay. So Daz, what are some of the very interesting things? I know all the stuff you look at is really interesting.
What are some of the projects that you’ve recently uncovered and help the audience, you know, then we can talk to everybody about what they’ve found. Yeah, it’s a diverse set of projects that these guys have done so far under this kind of like loose Group here. We started off trying to revisit a target that Joe McMonagle, the. The world’s most famous remote viewer, did in the. In the 70s where he. He saw pyramids on Mars. So I sent these guys to Mars to see if they could confirm or deny any pyramid type structure. So that was the first one.
Then we moved on to the. I think it was the intruders. There’s a famous case of a book by Bud Hopkins which details the account of a woman in America who’s had abduction experiences all her life. And she had this experience on a certain night in particular where gray aliens gave her a black box and. And then they took it back. But she wanted to know what was in the black box. So I tasked these guys to go to that night in question and to see if they could find out what was in that black box, which they did in great detail.
It blew the abductee woman, Deborah, away. The next one I think we did was, I think it was shouted the shrouded Turin. I sent these guys to the moment the image was created on the shroud to see if we could work out if it was a. A clever fake or if something else had happened. I’ll let these guys detail that one because I think it was a profound experience for all of them, and I think that’s probably the most profound one that we’ve done so far. Then we followed that up with the Philadelphia experiment to see if they really did move a ship through time.
These guys looked at that. And finally, before the one we’re working on this month, we tried to look to see if the. The Mothman kind of experiences from 19 from the 1960s in Mount Pleasant ever took place. And we had some very interesting data on that one as well. So a big diverse lot of different subjects there. I’m sure you’ll have a favorite than one of those that you want to ask these guys about. Well, okay, so what’s so cool about this is that you, in your position, you find the coolest projects, the most interesting things, and you say, okay, let’s dive into it.
Yes. Yeah. And what’s great about what we’re doing with this future forecasting group with these guys is that I have them for a month on each project, so I can afford to, you know, send them back in to get more data four or five times so that by the end of the project, for each of those ones I’ve listed, we probably have like 2 to 300 plus pages of information that we could, you know, essentially each project becomes A book in its own right. What I understand, before we get into this is when you have a project manager and you have a set of remote viewers, the quality of the data when you’re having.
Having multiple people look at it is so much better. Yeah, it’s richer. And I think we found this from, you know, me and Dennis working with future forecasting group and other smaller groups that the longer you got, you work together as a team, the more in tune you all seem to become with each other over time. So it’s like a fine wine. It ages very well. And the far. The longer you get and you spend time with each other, you work in, like a symbiotic kind of relationship. It was almost like the phenomenon when you get a lot of ladies in a house and they’re on their menstrual cycle, they tend to sink.
Yeah, I think we tend to sink over time in. In that. In that kind of physical, natural way as well. Yeah, it’s. My cycle is the same as all you ladies now. So we’re definitely not. Well, it probably is. There’s some kind of. I bet you the men do cycle with the women. You just don’t know what that is. There’s a harmonization that happens with. That’s how I describe it is we are in tune on a psychic wavelength and we harmonize and we don’t even realize the full extent of it. Like I said, we’re all gathering different pieces of information that all just tend to fit with each project.
And it keeps getting better as we’re learning each other. It’s fascinating. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, we all laugh about that, but I think it’s really real. Okay, so there’s. I gotta dive into the Mars thing first because that has implications that are much broader than us as human species. What did you find on Mars? I’ll let you. You guys. I’m only the project manager, so I didn’t get to experience that one. So you guys, you know, talk about your experiences, you know, what you think happened there. I guess I can. I can start if you guys want me to.
Yeah, this was. This was one of my favorite projects ever as a remote viewer. In summary, you know, for my sessions, I witnessed. What was really cool is there was basically an impending cataclysm, but there was some kind of looking at the collective of this society. They were all in harmony. There’s a big telepathic communication. It’s like these people were in their dwellings and all of a sudden they just got up and they left and they were being Just psychically called. It was like I called them these zombies, these drones. They just got up and they left and they went to this underground area, this underground facility.
And there was this technology that was like a natural based technology which there was some corroborating data. It almost seemed like there was a Mycelium network running through it, which is what Demi pulled back. I don’t want to steal her thunder, but it tied into the energy that I had. And then they had to ride out this, this cataclysm, this giant celestial impact is what I was seeing. And they were underground, searching for even older technology to help survive it. And it was just a difficult experience for these people to through. I followed a woman that went through this process and.
And they were just underground trying to survive. And it was really, really sad and really impacted me. And then it’s such a humbling thing to realize, like there may have been a civilization that rose and then completely fell thousands or even was that a million years ago is when they. The original tasking was like 1 million BC DAZ for the original, when Joe McMonagle looked at it. And to. To think about that and then to look at some of the work of other viewers at future forecasting reared and did a Mars target where there just seems to be a connection somehow to Earth as well at some point in the timeline.
It’s really just been eye opening for us. So are these people, do we think that they escaped? There’s a certain subset of people that escaped to Earth, or was it an expanded civilization of Earth and Mars? I don’t think that we got into that aspect of it in other things that I’ve looked at. I think whether it’s aspects of consciousness that got out or maybe there was people that escaped, I think that’s possible as well. For me. This. I don’t think this Tardic project explored that aspect of it. But other viewers, I believe have good. I had it.
I had beings living underground on Mars. I spent. I just went straight underground and I started exploring there. But at some stage in my session I said some of these beings are here on Earth. So. So that answers the question. You think that. That it’s a connect. It’s a. Do you think it was two civil or one civilization that spanned two planets or did they escape to Earth? I think they escaped, yeah. The data seemed to indicate that some of them escaped, you know, down to where we are now and that, you know, that’s where our genesis is from.
Yeah. Wow. So was. Was Mars. And I don’t Know if you know all this stuff. Was Mars a more habit habitable planet back then was y. For sure there was structure on it. A big, big structure. At least we, we thought we, we, we’ve seen the, the big pyramids, you know that Jo also have seen prior like 30 years ago or something. But there are a lot of structure, beautiful structure, carved, engraved, beautiful and really really big. So they made the these for someone. I don’t think they, they pop up. Just. They’re still there. They’re still.
There are things on the surface. Absolutely. It’s a whole civilization underneath. Beautiful. Yes. So the people are still living on Mars today. I believe this I don’t know. We had mixed data on that one. I think some of the data indicated that some possibly were alive but there was a lot of, there was a lot of def. Data in there as well. So. Okay. It’s hard to fully determine on that one. Bear in mind it was, it was literally just a month long project as well. If we really wanted to attack it we’d have to attack it from different angles.
Spending several months. But yeah, these guys got great data and the sketches they bought back the structures were just amazing. You know we’ll have to find a way to send you the, the pictures of them because you might want to use a picture or two for promotion and stuff like that for sure. And how does it compare with the Egyptian pyramids, would you say? I can’t say that I have. Sorry, sorry. No, you go ahead, you go ahead. You, you, you sold it to that a few guys. Yes. I, I’ve seen, I’ve seen images of people like there and I, I’ve wrote there like Pyramid of Egypt and like hieroglyph in, in that part.
And there are custodians that were there doing things which were something related to teachings to, for, for people coming from all over the planet probably or the area. But it was really, really interesting. Yeah. So you think that. So would you say that possibly they’re the same builders or they just reflect the same that they’re just happen to both be pyramids? Well, I’ve got sculptures that look like Seth so these big dog things. So they look very, very similar. There’s similarities. Yeah, we had, we had some. Was it obsidian, coffin type of structures as well that we saw.
And then what I had was the mathematics was so very precise which then tied into the way the energy flowed through the structure. It was. Everything was aligned and just so I say at a minimum what’s in common is it’s advanced Advanced knowledge of how to build, you know, technical knowledge of how to build things which we see in Egypt as well. Yeah, that, that didn’t match the, the, the civilization. The advancement of the day. Yeah, yeah. From what we’re told anyway. Yeah, so. Yeah, from what we’re told. Well is there anything else that was stood out in that project that you want to.
Like how did they. Natural cataclysm or was it a war or what was it natural. I think from the RV data and it was from several viewers that you know had this, this object coming down and hitting the planet. It was. Go ahead. I was, I had a giant like object impacting the planet and then just this crazy wind that just tore through the planet from the impact. I mean it, the impact was on one end of the planet but this tidal wave of force just blasted through and wiped everything out. Well, they say that there’s three planets.
Right. There’s one between Mars and. Is it between Mars and Earth or is it after Mars? Why am I spacing this out? And the, the asteroid belt is the same gravitational force as a planet and yeah that the, the theory is that another solar system came in and hit that planet, blew it apart, hit Mars and then our Earth is part of one of those. Was maybe part of Mars or part of that other planet. I think that’s Sitchin’s like the 12th planet. Sitchin’s work. I think Tiamat was the planet. I know Robert Morning sky talks about it with the planet got hit and got destroyed and that’s what’s left is Earth and then the asteroid part of the remnants of what was Tiamat, which is a much larger, larger Earth like planet.
Oh, so Earth was part of that. So Earth wasn’t there before it was a split off you think according to that. That work theory? I’m not sure but yeah, it could be anything. But that’s one of the stories out there. Yeah, well and the Electric Universe guys have that theory as well. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. But we didn’t went there in our session. So far away. Maybe next time. Yeah, it’s another thing to look into which makes it so cool. Okay, so the other one is the shroud that. The shroud you guys looked at. Talk about that one.
Wow. It was amazing. Goodness me. I have to be honest, I’ve been looking into that for years. I have several books on it but I’m as the tasker I’m. I’m on. I was on the fence. I still don’t didn’t know if it was real or not. But after seeing what these guys bought back, I am definitely legs over the fence in that. This is the shroud. Looks like it is a. The real thing that. Yeah, the cloth that enshrouded some kind of enlightened being. Because all the viewers brought back this amazing, powerful, weird energy from above that.
And, you know, they talk about shrouds in their RV sessions and. And it. Leaving impressions and all kinds of stuff. It’s just. There’s no evidence in there whatsoever of any fakery. And these guys, well, they’ll go for it themselves, but they had. Some of them had some of the most amazing kind of spiritual experiences from seeing that. That whole event in the rv. Wow. Okay, so who wants to share what they saw first? I’ll go. So I. I just fell deeply in love with this person. He was just. I dreamt. I met him in a dream as well.
It was just wonderful. At some stage, though, I was writing my session, I said, oh, this man is a magician. He’s an alchemist. He’s practicing really serious transformational magic, and he’s using sex magic. And on the page I wrote, he’s using sex magic. I said, oh, no, I can’t share that. I didn’t put it in my session. I actually did not send that. I thought it’s too much. I can’t say, well, yeah, because that gets to the occult stuff. And I’ve got drawings of his table where he was working. It felt like kind of Portugal up with a view over the sea.
A table with magical instruments and a bowl and books. And he was writing, taking notes. But he was extraordinary. He really. He was. Did he just resonate the frequency? You know how they say you raise your frequency? Did it just resonate at like a love frequency? Is that what it was? That’s exactly. And he didn’t feel completely human. He really did feel like. It really felt like a hybrid. Really beautiful. Beautiful. At some stage, I wrote like, you know, that Astar Sharon, he’s one of the Nordics or something that is in all the New age books.
It had that kind of feel, but absolutely. Oh, such love. It was that month that we were doing that viewing. It was just like being bathed and radiant. Oh, it was. It was so awesome. So when you say that he was doing magic, would you say more? It was. He was helping people achieve a higher frequency and understanding. Oh, yeah, just transformation. Transformation, yeah. So the words. Yeah, the words could be changed to something that is more that. He was helping people transform and get closer to love. Is that. Yeah, he was accurate. He was. He was like channeling love frequency.
And then when that, when that happened, I mean, I think every single one of us saw some kind of blast or radiance. But I’m going, it’s death, but it’s not death. It’s transformation. It’s that, you know, something’s happening here. He’s been pushed through an envelope. Yeah. What helped you? Did it help you transform a bit? Well, I’m. I’m always in transformation, but it, it gave me, you know, such beauty, such love. It. Oh, I, you know, it’s hard to find the words to actually describe it. It’s like, I think people who have nd ease when they go into love, I think that’s what they feel.
And there we were doing this viewing and then it seems to. I was writing to Daz, I said, you know, there’s this guy, this, this man I’m gonna try and dream because I like to like, finish off doing a little bit of dream work on that. And I came across the man in the. In a dream. And he was. I think I slipped in. He was with a group of people. And I think I slipped into her timeline because he actually came and kiss and it wasn’t me, me in the dream. It’s hard to. Hard to describe, but it really felt like, you know, this astonishing love and being.
Being these beings who were learning. It was a group of people who are all learning. So who, who else had. I mean, I know you all had this experience. What else did you find? Go on, gun. I must know. Can I share some snippets, Sarah, or you’re gonna. Yeah. Okay. You want to share the screen, is that what you’re saying? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Okay, go ahead. Okay, let me see. Quick break from the program to share with you something amazing. This is called sloop. It’s actually Slupp 332, but it’s been shortened to Sloop. And this thing, it mimics exercise.
It seems too good to be true. I first shared this on my sub stack and I had Dr. Diane Kayser and we went through all the benefits of this and the whole thing sold out. You can’t get it anywhere really, across the industry. And the people who are using it the most are athletes and bodybuilders and people who want to see extra performance in athletics. Because this, in pre clinical studies with mice, increased their endurance by 70% and their distance by. By 45%. I mean, it’s incredible. And it’s been shown to mimic exercise even when you’re at Rest.
In pre clinical studies with obese mice, they lost upwards of 12% of their body weight in four weeks and it increased muscle. So this is really taking the industry by storm. It’s actually not that expensive either. With my 10% coupon it’s about $80 for maybe a two month supply. If you take one capsule a day. If you decide to up it to two capsules a day because your dosage depends on what you want, then it’s a one month supply. But Dr. Diane recommends doing one capsule a day until your body gets used to it. You might not see the same level of results right away that the mice did, but your body can get used to it and see if it’s something that you really want to do.
If you are interested in this, this I will have a link below so you can try it yourself or go to sarah wessel.com under shop. Remember to use the code Sarah to save 10%. So just a few things to. To show to you. Can you see that? Yes. In the screen? Yes. So I will, I will talk not too much because there are a lot to talk as far as this being that it was flying this mountain and the caves in the right you can see the pictures walking the path idea and let me go further the man in the cave.
And I thought it was a life with wisdom giving, wisdom having. And it was buff in white luminance, a relaxation type of luminance. And it was hazy and I will go further and I as I was walking through my sessions all the. How can I say for all the veils of the remote viewing started to stream a lot of things and I couldn’t even have time to wrote them down. So I’ve seen a man with divine inspiration in contemplation in another form or dimension like cleaning his body like a restoration. I even have the redemption words it going to primary setting.
And this is a thing that he promised to save to save them. I wrote here to save them a people because it was some like of an archetypal figures. It was full of compassion, of acceptance with full of knowledge and with also behavior codes. But it was also serious and with the scientifical mind. And here is with this aura type around his head. I’ve got an idea of mushroom or Bhagavad Gita or Krishna in a religion society. And he’s like absolutely changing. And I’ve seen the shroud of Turing like a second skin like connected to the body.
And again this is my draw of the shroud but I didn’t know at that time, and a light from within coming from some hands. And again, my. My person, my life, which was absolutely amazing, full of absolutely everything positive and enlightenment. And it was with a crown, but it was not like a real crown from. From metal. It was a symbolic crown. And starting again to clean the body. I’ve seen the. The energy that was coming, which probably imprinted the shroud or, or the texture there. I’ve got, of course, at some point also Jesus and. And more like this.
So that’s it. That was my short presentation, as I said. Well, that’s. That’s incredible though. So did you feel. Did you. Could you feel it when you were doing the session? Yes, in that very session. I felt that. I felt. Do you think he was there with you? In my chest? You know, the sensation of love, of compassion, of being good, being. I don’t know, in heaven or something like this? Yes. Do you think he was there with you? Do you feel like he was physically there with you or, you know, I mean, in a. In some kind of physical sense, even if it was vibration? I think.
I think at that very point when, when, when we do something like this, we can transcend if our soul want to do it, if our subconscious need to go there. And probably I did felt something. I did feel something about it. I don’t know. I was very envious. You know, Lynn Buchanan, like, 15 years ago, wrote a book, and he says that he saw Jesus in it, and I was really envious about. So when I find out who. Who I seen, I was so happy because I really felt that I knew the man. So. Yeah, go.
Go ahead. Yeah. No, I also had Buddha because Demi was saying, you know, we were looking at this radiant sort of energy things. Yeah. So you. What did you say with Buddha? What? You said, you, Demi, who were you saying? You gave another name. You were saying Buddha and Krishna and Jesus. Even Jesus. I wrote two times during my session because it was such an overwhelming sensation of good and luminance and, and. And love. Yes, most especially. But I think Susan, have. Amazing thing regarding the elect, the. The technicality of. Of all this and. Yeah, so I don’t know.
Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I guess I was kind of more focused on the process of what was happening. And what was really strong was it was coming through as like an infused, energetic imprint or something. And what really struck me too was the energy and the light coming through, but it was coming through the body affecting the physical as opposed to like the other way around. And I had the fact that it was Ultimately, the ability of someone who’s deceased to affect the living or imprint on the living. And I even had. It was kind of communication through the veil, which I thought was a nice kind of term.
And it was really. It just struck me. And the kind of biological process of it, too, the spiritual coming through the biology into the physical world, which was really, really, really strong. Did you feel that you. You changed from this? Did it? I know that remote viewing can change you. Do you feel like that was one of those sessions that. Yeah, I mean, actually found it really hard to. When we. When we did the. The debrief, it took me about three days to come down. Like, it was something. Like something was working through my nervous system because I was so energetically charged.
It was. It was really powerful in a way that other targets aren’t sometimes, but. Yeah. Do you ever question yourself on whether what you’re seeing is real? Like, is, am I really seeing this or am I off target? Oh, probably always. But as a project manager, these guys. Yeah, every. Every viewer comes to me and says, I don’t know. You know, I get notes. Sorry, I don’t know if I’m on target every time. Everyone has a doubt. Absolutely. Yeah. I think also with this one, because this. I felt this so energetically as opposed to seeing, like, I saw things, but I experienced it much more, which it took its while to work through my.
My body, my nervous system or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I think the only other time I’ve ever felt that kind of radiant energy was when Darby tasked us once with the Council of Nine, and that went on for about three months. And there was just this glowing golden light everywhere. Talk about what the Council of Nine is. So people know. I have absolutely no idea. I mean, I’m just a viewer. No, but I mean, like, what is Law of One? It’s from the Law, the Law of One. They were channeling. I don’t know if it was the 70s or the 80s.
They were channeling. Really. It was a collective advanced consciousness. So it was a collective of minds that were speaking as one. They called themselves Ra, and they were talking about really, the transcendence of human spirit. And they had this upcoming harvest where you’re evolving to the next level. I can’t remember. All of. It’s like a New Age type of thing. And Darby was tasking us to look at kind of the embodiment at some of the. The souls or the minds behind that. And we got. We had some. Some pretty wild data looking at that. How do you know that? We Talk about, you know, new age versus.
And every time I put up one of these shows, I just have an army. I don’t know if it’s trolls or if people who are well meaning or whatever. How do you separate out this as being something that we are born with, that we human development? I see this as human development, us touching into something that is good with inside us that we’re trying to develop versus new age, which might be okay too, but new age that they claim is this false understanding to sway us away. What do you think about that whole. You know, I just.
The reason I’m asking is because every time I get just bombarded with this stuff and so I’m like, I’m trying to come up with a way to, you know, talk about it publicly so that it is framed in a way that it’s true human development. That’s an excellent question. I wrestled with this for a lot when I wrote one of my books because I was looking at, basically I was trying to explain why do we suffer? We’re doomed, we’re on a prison planet. You know, I went down that rabbit hole because, you know, I went through some trauma.
And basically what I found is there’s a lot of so many people, so many authors, so many experiencers, so many solid researchers have identified, we have this ability. It’s a natural ability. It seems like we’ve forgotten about it. But most of the listeners out there, I’m sure, can think back to some point in their life where they had a psychic moment. And it’s so easily dismissed because we see Hollywood and we think these psychic experiences are supposed to be like, oh my gosh, I’m speaking in tongues, my eyes roll to the back of my head, I start levitating.
And really it’s such a subtle thing sometimes that we easily dismiss it, we easily forget it. And what remote viewing teaches you or other practices teaches you to take that tiny little signal and to on it and to amplify it and to interrogate it and to expand upon it. But it’s such a subtle thing. And we all have this ability and there’s so many books that are out there with it. And it’s easy to go down the road of dogma, how we interpret the world. So a lot of times, like looking at this, this Jesus target, the shroud of Torah, we can speak in religious terms.
I had a lot of energy stuff which for common speech I would say I think it was the Holy Spirit through a Catholic lens. But really I just think it’s this Divine. You know, Daz uses the metaphor of the Force from Star Wars. There’s common threads through all religions throughout, even now, throughout the scientific process with, with what they’re uncovering. That I think explains this and I think where people get hung up is, well, this is what my dogma tells me and this is the vocabulary that I use. But I think as remote viewers we try to stay very grounded in reporting the data base.
Break it down to the basic just thoughts. What did we report? What crossover do we have? You know, if, if the five of us have, have similar data points just using different words to describe it. Well, what do those similar data points tell us? It tells us, number one, we’re having a telepathic experience. Hands down, we’re all reporting the same exact thing. It’s how you interpret it. I think that’s where the new ag, the dogma, the religion. So we, we try to separate from those terms. You know, we’ll use those terms, what we call an aol to describe something which is really just like a metaphor to help understand a bigger concept.
But what we’re report, we’re demonstrating is this ability without a doubt is real. And then it’s up to the people who are consuming the data to decide how they’re going to interpret that. Well, I have quantum energy scientists that I just aired into show with them and their intention or they claim that, and I think this is true, that quantum energy is the science behind remote viewing and be behind religion and that they’re, they’re putting the data behind this. They’re doing, they have more peer reviewed studies, not peer reviewed, placebo controlled studies with prestigious institutions than anyone else in the world.
And that’s what they’re contending. And the nice part about the quantum energy is, takes away all that negativity and says this is real folks. And, and you guys are the practitioners of it and they’re the scientists trying to put a lot of legit answers behind this. It’s really quite, I think it’s an amazing time to be alive. Wonderful time. Absolutely. Yeah. And the science behind, I mean quantum entanglement is what we’re dealing with. And when you break down some of these, even the ancient texts, you can see the technological or the scientific correspondence to it. If you want to put a scientific lens behind this, now that we understand more, but really with that entanglement, you know, or, or things being in superposition everywhere at the same time, we’re just accessing that field of information that is already connected instantaneously.
It’s Fascinating to watch. And Hal put off. Just did an interview with Joe Rogan. I can’t remember the term that he was using, but there is some type of element within our brains and our bodies that is basically a quantum receiver. It transmits or receives quantum data within the human brain structure as it is. I can’t remember what it’s called right now. Is it a specific one or is it every cell of ours is. Is. I think it exists within the cells. Every single cell does? Yeah, I think so. And there’s more within the, you know, the, the neurons or the brain structure.
But yeah, I can’t remember the term right now, but it’s, it’s, you know, the science is coming together right now to better explain how remote viewing is possible. Yeah, it’s. It’s the. Makes it all legit in, in the way it’s legit anyways. It’s just makes it legit to the masses, if you will. Well, yes, it’s becoming more. More accepted because they can consume it in a variety of different ways. Well, we have time for one more project, so. And then I’ll have some general questions. Can I just jump in quickly? I. I want to say that psychic, Psychic phenomena, as in precognition, I think it’s a lot connected to our survival instinct because you have people having psychic experience like Dave from the.
A remote viewing discord where he’s driving along a road and suddenly he pulls over and a truck comes around the curve on the wrong side of the road. That’s. That’s accessing your psychic abilities and it helps you survive. It’s like people who think of. Phone their aunt of, you know, when the day before she dies or a mother who, like my mother used to keep tabs on me when, When I was young, she’d phoned me and said, what are you up to? And I’d be up to bad. You know, of course that’s, that’s psychic stuff. And you know, it’s.
It’s part of our. Everybody hasn’t. Well, but also you start to think that somebody’s messaging you at times too. It’s like somebody’s getting. I’ve been thinking about you so long. Yeah, it’s that. Yeah, it’s quite cool. I think it’s very interesting, the idea. And I think I. I’ve come. It came from death at first, but I also thought about it of everybody having in. In itself all the information that we need. So like that, like a holographic universe that it’s ingrained. It’s engraved in every cell or in every bit of us. If we are part of the universe, then we can access everything doing remote viewing, of course, or other psychic work in order to find out such things.
So I don’t know for sure it’s some cell component or some microtubular from the brain or whatever energy which resides. That was the word. Microtubular. That was the word. Thank you, Jimmy. That’s like mycelium psychic right there. Network as well. I have some amazing contacts, you know, like Roman and Sherry Edwards. Roman is a guy. He’s from. He’s the mind behind the quantum, which people don’t realize, but he was born being able to see differently than us. He sees the frequency, and so he has something ingrained in him that brings his whole. What you are talking about to a whole nother level, because he sees the frequency and he’s tapped into the quantum field.
And Sherri Edwards can hear a couple hundred times better than we can. So she’s tapped into it from a. A sound standpoint. It’s. So for some reason, these humans were born with an. You know, with a difference where they are superhumans almost. I call them the living. What do you call. I always call Sherry a living X man. I always tell her that. But that’s kind of what it is. We all have that at a lower level. Do you think we can develop it to that point, I mean, as we start figuring this out? Yeah, research has shown that.
Go ahead. Yeah, well, you know, I mean, that’s what we’re all doing as remote viewers. We never. We never started out as good as where we are today. Well, yeah, if you start where I am, I can attest to that. We all start off with a nugget of natural ability, and it’s learning about yourself and how you process information, how you fit into the world, all that kind of stuff. It grows over the time that you practice. And, you know, we. It’s very easy to develop your skills. Anyone can develop their skills and then use it like we do.
And you. At some point, you just have to. I’ve kind of getting. I’m just like, I don’t care. I’m just gonna learn the process and do it and just go with it. And if I don’t. Whatever, I don’t care anymore. Because you can’t. That is the golden state. Yeah, that’s the golden state of being. The moment you get to the stage of. I don’t care if I’m accurate anymore. I just want to enjoy the process. That’s when it’s like, it’s like nirvana. It’s like, ah, you get that golden moment and that’s when you really improve. Yeah.
At the moment. From the ego in a way. It’s like I can’t get it right. I can’t get it right. Performance anxiety. We all, we all have performance anxiety because this is like a performance. Yeah, yeah. When dad sends me a movement, I panic. I’ll look it up like, oh, this means my other session was awful. He wants me to look at this and I thought I was in this direction. You know, you really, really gotta wrestle with who cares like that I trust as and you know, he’s going to guide us where we need to because he doesn’t want to give you information that’s going to front load you, meaning he doesn’t want to tell you, okay, now go explore this specific thing because now that ruins the target.
So he has to word things in a way where it’s so general. Just. You reported this data on this page. Tell me more. So, but you have to surrender that ego. Yeah, it’s really. The ego was hard. Right? Because every time I’m like, okay, give me my feedback. Heck, you know, you’re like, even the bad feedback is learning, whatever, give it to me. But it’s, it’s. But that’s, that’s the learning piece of it. When, even when you’re off, when you’re wrong, you’re calibrating your mind. So now I embrace those misses And I say, oh, I understand what happened here.
You know, the more misses you have, the stronger you get because you recognize I don’t follow that signal anymore. I need to go in the other direction. Well, but the other thing is like this month there’s been, been so many strong energies and, or if a family member has issues, I, I’ve realized that if a family member I really care about is having issues, that takes over everything. And then, and then also just in today’s like right now, there’s a lot of energies coming through. You know, how do you focus on a target? Like Daz gave me a target of like a rusty old building.
I’m not going to focus on that when I have a fan. My daughter’s having all these issues. You know, how, how do you, you, how do you block that out? It’s hard. It’s a, it’s a discipline that, you know, we all have. You know, it takes years and you know, I’ve been doing this 30 plus years now and I still class myself as a young Student. You know, I would never class myself as being a master at this because every time I do it, I’m learning something new. I don’t think it will ever end. This pathway is always continually learning.
Yeah, yeah. It’s. It’s a development thing that we just have to learn over time, over practice, over repetition, until it becomes muscle memory, you know, and trust. You have to trust this whole thing to trust the pressure. Trust in yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, in the beginning, when you do set asides, every single time I set aside fear of failure, I don’t say, don’t tell everybody that. I just say, yes. But that’s my fear of fate. Every single session for 25 years. Really? So it’s really common in everybody. Like, like, you know, like I’m a.
Is something you have to set aside. Well, that’s because I’m a moron. But it doesn’t matter. I’m just gonna do it. That’s right. We’re all morons. Let’s all get together and. Big morons. I’m just gonna do it. You come to realize that whether you’re right or wrong, if you enjoy the experience and you gain something from it. Because I’ll have sessions where I don’t know how this correlates, but I got this data that I wouldn’t have gotten any other way that has been very enriching and enlightening for me, and it’s valuable to me. So even though it may not be, you know, some sessions, you know exactly what the target wanted me to get.
I got something from the session, and that allows me to walk away saying, I don’t care. It’s going to be an. I want it to be an enjoyable session and experience for me, and then I recalibrate. But I gain something from every session that I do. Yeah. You feel like you at least connected. Whatever I’m seeing, I. I really saw this, so whatever. Yeah, that makes sense. So I. Now everybody can do this. And I know, Daz, you’re going to have a class coming up, and you also have the Future Forecasters group people can follow. I mean, you guys have spent years honing this craft.
I mean, people follow NHL football players, and one ticket to an NHL game is like a. The membership to this. If this is something people’s interested in, it is the future of our development. They can join this group and hear about all these fascinating projects that you’re looking into. Where can they go. Yeah. For the future forecasting group stuff, which is, you know, what these guys are doing with the mysteries. And we also look at cryptos and we also look at a very noisy environment as you guys just discussed, which is, is we try to predict what the next news story is going to be a month in advance.
They can get all that information@future forecasters.com and they can follow me on my website@remote viewed.com and they, there’s loads of resources there with templates on how to do this themselves. You know, targets for them to practice and do it themselves. So they can literally for no money at all try this and set themselves on up halfway to it exploring the kind of things we, we do. And you know, you can use this intuition to make your life better, your family’s life better and just, yeah, just really explore your, your own universal component in where we fit in in the universe.
I think the process, and I’ve said this many times to you, is that it’s kind of a therapy almost for me because I have to get past my ego. I have to learn how to be peaceful and calm, which is hard, and then just be okay with what I’m seeing. It’s been a really good self exploration process. It’s a person, everyone’s on a personal journey and every person that I’ve taught or mentored is on a different pathway. You know, if there’s a group of 10 in the class, every single one of those people is on a completely different pathway.
Even though they’re all learning similar, you know, a very similar methodology because it RV is all about, you know, it’s all about you as an individual and how you process information, how your ego gets in the way and your own personal spiritual development path. We all have one. Yeah. So it’s, it all comes into play with this. Yeah. For me, you know, being, you know, be to sharing, I, I deal with such hard news and such hard information all the time and I’m getting fed things all the time. So doing something calm like this, where I’m working through and it’s been really good for me and I think a lot of people are at that point where, where there’s just so much stuff going on in the world.
This is a kind of a good avenue for a lot of people. One thing that you did say though is that if you are struggling mentally that sometimes it’s not good. Why is that? Why is it some, you know, like you might be tapping into some dark energies that doesn’t, doesn’t help you. Yeah, there are some people out there, you know, they are, you know, they do have problems in their life. They’re not the most, I would say, mental, mentally stable and they’re not in the right place in time to explore some of the things like we’re doing.
But you know, I also say that, you know, I, we, when we’re teaching this in, in the first year of development, we did tend not to give students like yourself these type of esoteric kind of targets because you’re, you’re not there yet. So respectfully, you know, I don’t send people down that route other teachers made do. That’s why I’m always warning people that you have to be careful who you, who you approach to mentor or teach you or where you get your targets from if you’re going to try it on a, on an individual journey. Because if you’re not mentally capable of handling some of these targets, you, you know, like these guys here, you can see that they were all physically and spiritually changed by looking at the shrouded terrain.
If you aren’t in the right state of maintenance mind to appreciate, appreciate that and to take that on board. Some of these targets can’t, we have to be honest, can be, can be damaging to you. And we’ve seen it in the past. You know, we’ve seen people have mental breakdowns because of, because of doing this kind of esoteric work. Yeah. And so they have to be careful. And then as a practitioner teaching, you kind of can weed that out a little bit too. That’s what’s so great about you being able to watch people for a year.
You can kind of be like, okay, they probably don’t or whatever. Yeah. Which is important because it’s being responsible. I try to teach people be responsible with Peptides in their health. It’s the same thing. Responsible with your mental health. Yes, it’s very important. And as you said, you, you’re finding that you’re having like a, a meditative kind of journey from this. You know, it’s separating you from the noise of everyday life and giving you a bit about yourself for a while. Well, but you know, there are some people that won’t be able to handle that selfness at their stage in life.
So. Yeah, yeah, you have to, you have to have an eye on people’s development and what they’re doing. Well, and it’s a lot. I was just gonna say, I mean, I think remote viewing for what I’ve learned is it extends beyond your session. Right. It becomes a lifestyle. The different things that you do, yoga, meditation, mindfulness, writing, journaling, you know, there’s all these other things that will support you as a remote viewer. And part of that too is being aware of your own mind. Like I, I struggle with mental health, in and out, depression, anxiety, ptsd.
I mean with my background I’ve seen a lot of things so I’ve had to pay extra close attention when I get these big targets. But I think also having a background in spiritual studies and psychic studies, you know, this has been a lifelong journey of understanding these things where I’m able to, I’m very good at recognizing this is potentially could mess me up. And I have a process of how I have to get myself grounded back in reality so I don’t spiral down. Oh my gosh. I looked at aliens say the world’s going end, you know, because it’s easy to see that stuff.
And really I don’t want to go off the deep end. But it, you really have to understand your mind. So you know, this stuff that we’re talking about sounds fantastic and it is. But you, if you don’t have the background, you have to start at the beginning. Like that’s his basic targets. Looking at the rusty building, looking at you know, Big Ben. Looking at all these things that are basic, grounded in reality targets. To develop the capacity to handle these really, really big, scary, impactful, paradigm shifting thing. Sometimes you have to build the resilience for it.
Yeah, I have to read something, I have to add something if, if you, if you let me. I think in the, in the first two, three years I, I couldn’t see bad targets or negative targets. So the best approach that I can, I could have in my session was something beautiful. So I replaced like how, how I say Hiroshima. I had once the target Hiroshima and I replaced with something beautiful happening there because my, I was not ready to see because I am really sensitive to bad news. I’m not watching news at all because I can afford for my emotion.
It’s absolutely hard for me to, to, to hurt so many negative from all over, you know, from all the country on all the world. So our sub subconscious comes with this kind of protection and you’re not ready. Let’s give you something else to chew about in the session. So it happened also that it can happen in your session in your work. So I don’t know. This is my, my experience online. Well that happened to me because Daz, you gave us the LA fires and I came up with Winter landscape. I actually had myself in an igloo.
So that just with that. Which is pretty interesting. Yes. Yeah, there are, there are Inbuilt, you know, defense mechanisms. And we know, you know, we know this happens when, when people in real life have really bad traumatic physical events, their mind can detach and split off and create different personalities, all kinds of stuff. Stuff. So it’s like, it’s like a form of that in a way where there’s a process internally that is, is protecting you because you aren’t ready for that at that stage. Yeah, for some reason I decided to protect myself from the fire, but that probably is probably pretty good.
It was hot and I don’t want to be part of that, but I couldn’t see it. Right. So that’s not a good thing. But so you also have. My kids want to do this, my daughter really wants to do it and, and also my son. So they, you also have classes that are. Because yours is more intense which people want to really dive into it. And then you have some shorter sessions too that some of your other future forecasters do that people can get into. Because I’m so into this and my kids really want to get into it and so it’s perfect for them to see if they want to go even further.
And so then just go to the future forecasters group. Yeah. Feature for Crossers.com There are two other teachers. Well, I think there’s three now and I think Edward might be teaching as well. We’re the only kind of company or group out there that has multi methods that we’re teaching. So there, there are several shorter, less intensive classes which are just as good, you know, using those methodologies that people can take. And you know, they’re, they’re a bit more cost effective than me doing my intake. Intense 13, 14 month one as well. No, but I love that.
I’m so glad you’re doing this long one. Edward Reardon. I love Edward. He’s been on my show many times. Is he doing a shorter one or a longer one? I believe he’s in the process of creating his own methodology to be taught to people. Naim’s now teaching the HRVG methodology and so there are several others teaching the HRVG one as well. And as you know, I’m teaching the flow one. So in the end we’re very soon we’re going to have three or four different methodologies and under one kind of house. Yeah, well, and I think you’re one of the more you’re.
Tell me if I’m wrong. Is there other. I mean you’re kind of the foremost experts in the world right now as far as Helping people learn this stuff and forging a path. We are creating a good reputation. There’s obviously a lot of other people out there, especially. You don’t want to say that. That I. I can say that. You can say that. I can’t say that. There are a lot of experts out there. Yeah, there are very talented people teaching loads of resources. I would just say to anyone, don’t jump into this, you know, read. Do lots of research.
Make sure you have an affinity with the person that’s going to be mentoring or teaching you. You. Because there is a big range of, you know, you are putting a lot of time, effort, and essentially money into this. You know, money is involved, plus your emotional energy. I mean, I truly is. And I didn’t realize when I started, I did not realize how much you lay yourself out there. Yes, it’s. I. I think I’ve said this in. In the mentoring presentations here. In the end, RV is about. Is all about you. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I can.
We can teach you the. The. The rules and the regulations and you have to do in the structure, but in the end, it comes down to you as an individual in every way. Yeah. Well, this has been fascinating. I hope you guys will come back. I want to do regular sessions with you guys and, you know, keep this going because people absolutely love it. Like I said, it’s human development. It’s where. It’s where we’re going. And people. It’s the quantum energy and it’s. People are really honing into this and really want to understand it. So I’m sure these guys would love to come back.
We got, you know, we’re working a project right now. Let’s get a couple more under our belt and, you know, we can maybe come back and talk about, you know, as I said, the intruders, when they. When they. These guys remote viewed that abduction and the Philadelphia experiment. I mean, that one alone, that was fascinating. Where they saw how that ship traveled through time. That. We have three more to talk about that we didn’t get to. So I have plenty of material to bring you back. Back for. Give me the Philadelphia. She had the whole thing.
Thank you so much, everybody, and I hope you guys all. Yeah, thank you. And you guys have a great rest of your day. Take care, everyone. Byebye. Bye. Bye. Sa.
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