The Blue Brain Project Intuition and the Battle for Human Consciousness

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What we’re really dealing with is an economy of energy. And so when it comes right down to it, what I said about relinquishing the outcome, relinquishing and just going into a process, you know, if, okay, so I like to watch the way President Trump deals with his detractors. You ever notice he doesn’t give up hardly any energy to these people that are trying to tear him down? He gives them a look and that tells them everything. It’s like, I’m determined to get through this. But he doesn’t waste energy. That’s, you know, he doesn’t sleep because he has a lot to do.

So he’s not allowing circumstances to dictate to him. And I’ll tell you what I, the way I phrased it, you are either the effect of a cause and this is where the mass formation hypnosis comes in, or you’re the cause of an effect. Quick break from the program to share with you something amazing. This is called sloop. It’s actually Slupp 332, but it’s been shortened to Sloop. And this thing mimics exercise. It seems too good to be true. I first shared this on my sub stack and I had Dr. Diane Kayser and we went through all the benefits of this and the whole thing sold out.

You can’t get it anywhere really, across the industry. And the people who are using it the most are athletes and bodybuilders and people who want to see extra performance in athletics. Because this, in preclinical studies with mice, increased their endurance by 70% and their distance by 45%. I mean, it’s incredible. And it’s been shown to mimic exercise even when you’re at rest. In preclinical studies with obese mice, they lost upwards of 12% of their body weight in four weeks. And it increased muscle. So this is really taking the industry by storm. It’s actually not that expensive either.

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Remember to use the code Sarah to save 10%. Welcome to Business Game Changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have David Masters coming to the program. He’s an industry legend in the radio world. He and his brother started talk radio network trn, which were the ones that syndicated coast to coast over 500 stations with art Bell. That radio program was. Is legendary. It was the most listened to program aside from a few others, maybe like Rush Limbo or something. It was the number one program and it was at midnight and it. And he said, you know, the time of day really mattered.

But he did other really popular shows as well, like Laura Ingram. He produced that one for five years. But he also won awards in his own right. He has three comedy awards. He has been a producer and a writer and an author and he has his own podcast. And he’s just so much fun to talk to. And his dad, he talks about his story. His dad was a hypnotist. And his own story as a child and how he grew to understand other phenomena in the world and how that really shaped his life and his understanding. And then how in coast to coast he was just bombarded with all these interesting ideas and how that changed him and it all kind of accumulated into what he has today and, and his website and his flagship book, which is called how to escape the prison for your mind.

I mean, because that’s kind of what we’re in. He claims we’re all essentially hypnotized and we don’t even realize it. And those of us who have broken out of parts of this don’t feel like you belong and you just kind of watch things from a distance and wonder, holy crap, what’s going on? And so we talk about that as well. And he also talks about the Blue Brain Project. I hope you stay that long. This is a really long show. And about two thirds in, we talk about the Blue Brain Project and holy crap, about how they’re working to analyze every aspect of our brain and what that means.

This gets into all different kind of categories. But I also share things about myself that I’ve never shared anywhere ever. I just felt like, okay, I’m going to share it. So I hope you enjoy or appreciate that part of it. But before I get into that, I want to talk about gold and silver and the fact that Andy, you know, I have my Friday night economic review show and Andy Schectman comes on every other week. And then I have other brilliant minds that come on you know, you know, every other week as well. And we talked about the fact that silver and gold were going to readjust in the beginning of the year.

Because what happens is that these big institutions have all of these funds that they’re managing and by contract, they can’t have certain asset classes being larger than others. It has to be distributed because that’s what their contract is about, sharing the risk. And so at this time of year, they always sell and balance out their portfolios. And with gold and silver going up so extreme over the last year, they had to do it by contract, so they had to sell a whole bunch of stuff. So it looks like maybe there was manipulation, when in reality it could just be the market readjusting itself because it happens every single time to balance out these contracts.

But we’re going to talk about this tomorrow. Are there other things that are causing the gold and silver to go down so much? Because it’s gone down significantly. It went up to like 110 and then it went down to 77. That’s a huge drop, that silver price. But what that tells you, this is a wonderful time to get in. I wish I would have put my husband’s ran this week and said two weeks ago, so it’s a great time to buy. But I still think two weeks ago was a great time to buy because I think it’s going to go up substantially.

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So that is a wonderful service to humanity that they do. Okay. Sarah westall.com Miles Franklin okay, let’s get into this really long. Just want to tell you this. It really looks like an hour and a half long show with David Masters. Hi, David. Welcome to the program. Sarah. Thank you for having me. Well, your background is pretty amazing when it comes to, you know, you were the producer for coast to coast for years. I was for five years. And you were the producer for many big shows. You’re with your brother. Right. And, and you ran. My brother was the CEO of Talk Radio Network and that talk about it, talk about your background.

I think people will be impressed. And then we’re gonna get into all sorts of stuff. Well, we decided we were going to start a syndicated radio platform back in 1998, and that was after we had syndicated ART Bell on 550 radio stations in a period of two years. It was the fastest build out of any talk show in history. And of course, it was at nighttime. And the nighttime was the right time. Yep. Because, you know, we had Larry King and a few other people that were on and, you know, people that would put you to sleep instead of wake you up.

And Art Bell did an amazing overview of the daily news that was his first hour. And then he would get into the paranormal topics, which personally I have been interested in since I was a child. And I’ll start there because when I was 12 years old, my parents moved us to the island of Oahu in Hawaii. Oh, how beautiful. Yep. And we were right on the beach. We were living right there. So one night I’m sitting on the, on the, on the wall that was, you know, like the beach wall that kept the waves from crashing up.

Sitting there watching the sun go down. I’m looking out into the ocean and I see this little black dot way out. And I thought, and I used to watch the boats go by all the time, the sailboats and the powerboats and everything. And but I thought this one was just sitting there kind of disappearing as the swells would move up and down. And I watched it for a while and I wondered what it was doing out there. All of a sudden, an aircraft, a big jumbo jet comes from, let’s say, left to right. It’s going to land in the Honolulu airport.

This black dot lifts straight up out of the water, goes right into the trail of the aircraft, the big jumbo jet, and then zooms out into space. I observed this as about a 12 and a half year old child. And so my fascination with all things paranormal began right there. It’s like I can’t get that image out of my mind. Right. You can’t unsee what you’ve seen. Unsee it, yeah. So that’s where, you know, it’s not even where my, my experience began, but it was a catalyst, I think, for me to be interested in all things paranormal, but not even paranormal metaphysical.

Because I wondered from that moment on what on earth was I observing. I had to know. I spent my whole life wondering about that. And today we have people like David Grush who have come forward to talk about his experiences with these UFOs and UAPs. We still don’t have the answers, but the, the reality of what it is that we’re dealing with in non human intelligence is starting to come to the forefront. And I find that absolutely in line with the things that I’ve been wondering about my whole life, like what are we dealing with on this planet? And a lot of what they think about these presences today, as opposed to five years ago or 25 years ago, is that they may already exist in our oceans, but that’s a whole nother show for me.

It’s always been a fascination. It’s been something that I’ve had to know about and. But let me go back to when I was a child of three years old. I am outside of my house in Houston, Texas. I turn my bike upside down, I’m pedaling my bicycle, and I lose a finger. Oh yeah, I lose a finger. And so at that point I felt like something had happened to me because it was really weird. I didn’t actually have a really visceral reaction to it. It was like, oh, it’s just another cut. Until I went and showed my mom and she turned white and she blocked it from her, her being able to comprehend it until I was 10 years old.

She later told me she blocked it out of her mind, like it wasn’t missing. But in that moment in my life, I feel like something extra was given to me. Since I wasn’t being, you know, watched after as I should have been, I think that there was a little bit of extra dispensation for me. Otherwise I might have just grown up to be an act, just an ordinary person like everybody else. But I’m not one of those ordinary people. I’m very Inquisitive. I’ve never stopped inquiring. And at this point in my life, it’s almost like an avalanche of inquiry that I’m always interested in one thing or another.

And I do a lot of writing on substack. David Masters on Substack for anybody that wants to see. I’ve written probably 230 articles in the last year. Wow, that’s a lot. Because I know on Substack, I just can’t. I do like a few a week, maybe three a week. And because it’s a lot of work. So it’s just pouring out of you. I know there’s certain things. I know there’s certain times where things just pour out of me and that, you know, there’s some things that’s happened to me that I just can’t ignore either. And so I know what you’re talking about.

Where suddenly the world is. There’s a lot more to this. But when you were producing coast to coast, you had access to more. It was an avalanche of access to people who thought differently and were looking at things differently. How much did that open your eyes to? The fact that the world is not quite what we thought it was? Man, I would sit up all night long as the executive producer for that show. I would really. I would work all day long and then I would go to sleep when the show started, 10 o’ clock at night, 11 o’ clock at night, and I’d stay awake all night listening to the show, even though I had already, you know, booked all the guests and things of that nature.

Yeah, it was. It was a wonderland of discovery. Yep. But I found as the years went by, that a lot of those people were into, well, I’ll just put it the new Age. Okay. That they were being influenced by very, very old ideas, which we now call the New Age. But I wasn’t in. I wasn’t in sync with the philosophy of a lot of these people. I mean, Richard Hoagland, who was science editor for CBS News back in the day, when he talked about the Face on Mars, which was infamous, you know, everybody talked about the Face on Mars.

And I think NASA definitely tried to cover that up. But he went on to teach, you know, transcendental meditation in Hawaii. And he got off on that New Agey side of things, which doesn’t resonate with me because I’m. I’m a Christ follower. I’m a Christian believer. Not good enough to be a Christian, but I’m going in that direction, if you know what I mean. Well, and let’s talk about a little bit what New age is versus not. I always, I like to come at things from both a Christian. I grew up as a very much in a Christian world, so my worldview is Christian.

But I’m more of a scientist too. But I don’t think it. So I like to put everything through a lens of science. But I also think that it doesn’t. Science doesn’t say any of this isn’t true. It’s just how do we go about trying to figure out how this all works from a science perspective. But I want to talk about what you mean by New Age because I’ve run across some things that I’ve. That people have said to me in this area that I’ve kind of went, wait a minute, I’m not sure that almost condones anything.

Like any kind of evil behavior is okay from the perspective of this New Age philosophy that all you’re doing here is learning and even the bad stuff is okay. And I, I just can’t accept some of that, those, those viewpoints. Can you explain what you mean by New Age? And I bet you we’re kind of converging on the same ideas here. I think so. The New Age is the oldest religion on earth and it’s exactly how you described it. It’s kind of like discover yourself as a mini God. And this is what is being circulated today by a lot of these teachers that you.

Everybody’s a God. I don’t believe that. Because if you look at the idea of intelligent design, there’s no way that all of this could just be coincidence or evolution. I believe in natural selection as Darwin actually described it on his deathbed, that there’s an, there’s a change in species as they adapt. Although the interesting thing about science, which I love science by the way, I’m a science fanatic because science is only proving the things I always suspected. When it’s done right, when it’s objective, not when it’s subjective. Like global warming. You know, I just read an article on Citizen Free Press that says nobody believes in the global warming nonsense anymore.

Nobody, nobody. Because they been shown the facts. So it’s like, knock it off. But, but we do know that there’s pollution and there’s, there’s issues. So we’re not going to abandon that part of it. It’s just, don’t tell us a bunch of garbage and then create agendas around that. But what did Darwin say on his deathbed? You gave us half of it. And then. Well, what he said Was, he wasn’t, let me put it to you this way, he said that what he was trying to describe was natural selection. And what, what the agenda driven people did was they grabbed that idea and they turned it into this entire evolutionary concept and then they built around it.

Now what we’re discovering, for example, the pyramids of Giza, they found these structures beneath the great pyramid of Giza. Now they’ve discovered by additional scans that every one of the pyramids has these structures underneath them. In, in Giza. In Giza, yeah. Well, how incredible is that? So back, going a little bit back to Darwin and then moving back to these pyramids. So he’s essentially saying that natural, because natural selection does happen. I mean if you have people that are just with humans, if, if only the tall people meet, then you’re going to eventually just have a bunch of tall people.

So natural selection, it does occur. But he didn’t say that’s the only phenomena. That’s right, he didn’t. He absolutely did not. And yes, you know, they did a study on a particular lake in, I think it was Tanzania or somewhere in Africa and they found that there was a fish there, but there were 400 different variations on the fish. That is absolutely perfect example of natural selection because after they kept breeding and breeding and breeding, there are all these different varieties of the same fish, but the fish actually was fundamentally the same. Well, humans, they’ve discovered now going back at least 200,000 years, they found some remains of people in a cave.

And as they do the genetic testing and the genetics get better, they discover that people really haven’t changed much over the last 200,000 years. And that’s just what they’ve been able to find because the Earth itself has a way of sort of erasing the past. So it’s very interesting to step back and objectively look at what it means to be human. And I think we’re starting to get more clues of what it means to be human. Darwin was simply a scientist trying to figure the whole thing out. But on his deathbed he, he admitted he wasn’t.

It wasn’t supposed to become a religion, it was just supposed to be his studies and his way of explaining how things work and change. So yeah, and they always take it to the extreme. And what do you mean the way Earth has a way of erasing history? Well, because of the way that our planet is designed. And again, I am an absolute true believer in intelligent design. Everything has an intelligence built into it. And there’s a book written by a Man named Ben Vova. He was researcher who wrote a book called Light. The book is three inches thick and it just describes the properties and the amazing things that come about as a result of light alone.

So I mean, when you just look at the properties of nature, of the naturalistic laws, it’s mind boggling how everything, there’s no way anything could be random. Nothing is random. Everything is specifically got a component of intelligent design built into it. And I think that’s what when you discover science, when you’re really a scientist, that starts to. Picture starts to emerge. And so if you’re an honest scientist, you can’t say that there is no God or there’s no intuition and there’s no spirituality. How can you possibly make that kind of decision as a scientist when everything points to do it? Everything.

Every thing. And you know, it’s interesting to note that no matter what culture you examine, they all have a deity. So the idea of us wanting to understand as human beings what God is, who God is, that is that, that’s sort of ubiquitous. It’s, it’s in every culture, it’s in every mind. It’s in. And there’s a book that was written about how we are wired to believe in something greater than ourselves. We’re wired that way. I mean, I wouldn’t want to live in a world where I didn’t believe in God. I mean, because nothing would make sense to me, believing in God.

And God is not a person, by the way Jesus talked about it, worshiping in spirit. And in truth, God is a spirit, whatever that is. I know, we don’t even know what that is. Right, exactly. Science is unveiling these various dimensions as they go through and they look at the subatomic structure of reality, but also they’re discovering that human consciousness is non local. This is a really interesting arena for me. Yes. Yeah. Because nonlocality of consciousness means that we are the way we were designed, is that we are radio tuners. We receive and what we receive, we transmit.

So we’re both a receiver and a transmitter of information. And then the question is, well, what are those various planes of information? Where do they exist and how do we tap into them? And to me, that’s the most fascinating of all questions because that’s where you discover your relationship with God. Because God is information. Now there are people that will take that to the furthest extent. And I’m here a lot of conversations about AI and I’m not afraid of AI other than it’s not the AI that’s the problem. It’s how will be used by bad people.

It’s human beings using it. Right, exactly. And, and they’re already using it to create all this kind of fear. I mean, they know that it creates fear in people. So I’m watching just what came out of Davos or what you’re hearing everywhere. It’s. There’s an agenda of fear. Because if you can put people into this fear state, you can do almost anything you want to people because they’re irrational and they’re using AI to do that. Right now it feels like. Because it just seems surreal, some of the statements they’re saying about it. Well, I will tell you that years ago, several years ago, I discovered, and they were actually talking about it at the World Economic Forum, these mind reading devices that, that they make them wear in China, they’re already being able to look at what your thoughts are.

So if your thoughts are not on your word work or if they’re in the girl next door, you know, in the next booth, you can get pinged for that. So that’s a real life example. That’s real. That’s real, yeah. And that. So, so the fear, that’s what, that’s why I struggle, because I’m like, well, gosh, what they’re saying is actually true. But they’re saying it in such a dystopian way that I think they’re using it as an agenda. Even though there are real issues here like you just laid out. Well, it is an agenda. And remember that fear kicks in.

The survival mechanism, the survival instinct. And we all. Let’s talk about evolution for a minute. Ultimate evolution is to evolve beyond fight or flight. Well, that means that you have arrived at a different state of consciousness in which you are not invested in an outcome that you’ve actually relinquished outcomes for process. And process has to do with being tapped into what it is that feeds your information to you. And that if we want to talk about believing in a God, Christ demonstrated that. And when you talk about what it means to be a spiritual person, he knew ahead of time everything that was going to happen to him.

He could see it. He could see it. And he knew who he was dealing with in every single person he came across. He was never defensive. He was always gracious and kind and understanding because he could see into these people and in the end, relinquishing the outcome. He was hanging on a cross and he said to his Creator, father, forgive them for they don’t know what they’re doing. He could see that the world was in a mass formation which we call hypnosis. And when Robert Malone, the inventor of the MRNA technology, started talking about it with Joe Rogan on his podcast, they turned them off.

They tried to cancel them. We are all existing in a mass formation of hypnosis until we are not, until we awaken, and until we relinquish or are willing to get to that point where we’re willing to relinquish outcomes. And that’s a very hard thing to do because business is all about outcomes. Right? Life is all about outcomes. But when we stop being the engineer, when we stop being the designer of the ultimate outcome that we desire, and we allow for a greater process to kick in. You know, there’s a scripture that says, the eye has not seen, the ear is not heard, neither have entered into the mind the things that God has in store for those who love him.

So loving the process of letting go and letting God is an ultimate process. And so what happens is there’s a certain degree of surrender as opposed to fight or flight. We kind of surrender in that moment and we allow a. Another process that we cannot necessarily even comprehend to play out. And. And you have to be able to do that artfully, though, because. And I’m going to throw this at you because you’re not saying do nothing and just let things happen. You’re saying being very actively engaged. But no, because I’ve come to this conclusion, too. That.

And I’ve said this to Stacy, who’s my producer. She’s awesome. A wonderful, wonderful lady. Yeah. And I said, you know what? There’s so many things that happen to me that I’m like, I’m not this good for this to happen to me. And then there’s a whole bunch of other stuff to happen to me, like why or doesn’t happen for, like, why can’t I get this happen? Even though it’s really easy. Like, this should be easy. And we talk and we kind of laugh about it, and that’s exactly what it is that you’re saying. There’s just. It’s like, universe has a plan for you, and Universe, God, whatever you want to call it.

And. But that does not mean that you don’t be an engineer, be a scientist, be an inventor, be a business person, be a conduit for change, but yet know that there’s a bigger process at play. And also don’t try to rig the whole outcome of that process. That’s what you’re getting at is. That’s what I’m saying. Human beings trying to create. Trying to bring back the Antichrist or something crazy. Oh, yeah, there’s a. A preacher that I witnessed talking about wanting a revolution in order for Christ to return. There are people who want to bring the Antichrist back.

Literally. John Hagee said it out of his own mouth. I was like, oh, my gosh. You want to see people die for. For your belief about that precipitating the return of Christ? No. Unless they’re being used to bring through a process. But regardless, it’s just. I think it’s kind of Nutville, actually. And to get balance, you are doing. You have a really good book on intuition, and there’s some pretty amazing topics that you have in there. I’ve been training with Daz Smith on remote viewing for over a year now because I’ve been trying to understand the process.

My goal is to understand the process. I don’t profess to be the best one in the world at it, but I’m getting better. And I realize that as you do it, you become. You learn the process and you become better at. Like, I. I just did one where it was the Roman Coliseum, and I kept. I did keep drawing something that looked like the Roman Colosseum. I just couldn’t. I have to learn the process of understanding, how to let things come through me. I’m not that I’m learning, but the bottom line is there’s something to all this.

You know, the fact that I can even get close to drawing something that looks like the Roman is amazing. But everybody has that ability. And you have studied this for a long time, trying to come up. One of the concepts that I saw in your book is the. The Blue Brain project. What is that? Let me. Let me frame this because I want to. Before I lose touch with this thought, I want to go back to what you said. I’m not saying do nothing, because that’s the third form of knowing. Now, what do I mean by that? It goes into the question you asked me.

You know, you think you know, but what if you don’t know? Now, not knowing is another form of knowing. How do you know? You don’t know. So what I’m saying is relinquishing the outcome means allowing yourself to be. You know, the word revelation means to have something revealed to you, allowing things to be revealed to you, but you cannot get there. And for me, this is the higher plane that I want to be on, because these are all frequencies. You know, the remote viewing I used to produce the Art Bell’s dreamland. And what Was his name Oats? I can’t remember his first name.

My John Michael Oates, I think it was. He was this guy who was a famous remote, remote viewer. So they sent me down to his home down in San Diego to produce him, where we’re going to do a show on this. This guy was out of his mind. He was just out of his mind. He was surrounded by all kinds of weird symbolism and ancient artifact, a weird stuff that he was trying to draw energy from. So it was like. It was not my. Sure wasn’t my thing, you know, it was like I didn’t want to be involved with that.

There was an occult aspect to what John Michael was doing. He was very off his rocker. But he also tapped in to what I’m describing as these frequencies that, you know, you’re a tuner, you can tune your mind into all kinds of stuff. I was listening to something about rocking these famous rock and rollers who wrote these famous songs. And they, they were asking a couple of these guys, where did you get that from? I don’t know. It just came to me. Everything can come to you, but what, what I’m looking for is revelation. I want things to be revealed to me.

And that goes into my. The name of my book is pay attention to your intuition, precognition and warning in dreams. But if you are there constantly configuring the reality, your reality and manipulating reality itself with your beliefs and ideas, you’re never going to have that moment, what I call the aha moment, where something is shown to you that you never would have seen. And so the, you know, the Blue Brain project, that is another one of those arenas where people can tap into. I just wrote a book called Source Code and it’s all about spontaneous healing through remission.

1500 people were, survived these terminal cancer challenges in their lives. Something changed in their perception of themselves. Now one of the things that changed the most was the way that they looked at themselves. Not at the world, but at themselves. And they felt that at some level they were all victims. And I. I remember hearing this concept and I wanted to find out more about it because like I said, I lost a finger when I was a child. Ever since that time, the way my mom reacted, it put into me something terrible happened that I couldn’t comprehend when I was three and a half years old.

So I thought I was a victim. And I’ve had bouts of cancer throughout the course of my life because I was a surfer. I got too much sun ever since I was a kid. I’ve had skin cancer, hundreds of them. Burned off, cut out, melanoma, you name it. I’ve always wanted to understand what is the catalyst for people to heal. And so the research shows that all there is is a shift of perception about yourself and what it is that happened to you. Much of it has to do with forgiveness and letting go. And miraculous things happen.

People that are literally on their deathbeds come back to life and live full and amazing lives just from realization. So for me, the realization process, also known as the revelation process, is having things revealed to you. Because a little knowledge is a powerful thing. Now, in the wrong hands, it’s very dangerous. In the right hands, it’s miraculous. Well, let me talk about the fact that people can just heal. But do you think that there is something to. When it’s your time, it’s your time and when it’s not your time, it’s not your time. Like there’s something out.

Yes and no. Yes and no. There’s what I’m saying. Yeah. Where I’ve heard so many stories of people that were at near death experiences and they just said, hey, it’s not your time time, you’re going back. And then other, other times it’s like, well, it’s your time, there’s not much more you can do. I, I don’t know. I don’t. Go ahead, do your thing, tell me what you think. I mean, I’ll go back to my past now because you know, I had some very interesting experiences throughout the course of my early life. The most extraordinary was I had a three day out of body experience.

Spontaneously just popped out and I was attached to my little 13 year old body like a helium balloon. And my body just dragged me around and I observed everything from this alternate reality. I believe that we all have the potential to experience this altered state. It can happen in some. Sometimes people try to make it happen through ayahuasca and all these different ways of making it happen and popping out of their body. But then we got gotta keep in mind there are two different planes of this. There is the, the dark side and the other metaphysical side of, of light and, and meaning.

Well, when I was 13 years old, I was out of my body. I watched myself go to sleep three nights in a row. Two nights in a row. On the third day I woke up and I was back in my body. But I feel like I brought back what I call moon Rocks. Hold on one second. You were out of your body for three days in a row or three nights? Three days and nights wow, okay. Yeah. At 13 you must have been confused as to. It was crazy. I kept on wondering when am I going to go back into me? But the thing that I discovered is after, after these three days I discovered and, and it, it guided me for the rest of my life.

I was shown and I believe this was the only takeaway that I was supposed to take with me from that experience was that I’m not my body. I knew that from the time I was little. And that’s what you’re taught by, you know, and that’s what Jesus always said. That’s what Christians, you know and what I think almost every, every main religion will say that you’re not your body and, but you fundamentally learned it. People who have near death experiences learn that too. And it’s hard. Once you separate yourself from your like you realize you’re truly, that this is truly a vessel or an avatar.

That’s another language for it. What is, how does that change your paradigm? So it changes everything because you stop making everything personal because it nothing in this world. You know, even people that try to make things personal, people that attack you verbally, even physically, even they try to tear you down. What are they trying to get at? Right, yeah, they’re trying to get at the essence of who you really are, which is you’re our spirit. We all, you know, without. When a person goes into a coma, where is the personality? Where’s the person? Well, they may still be there, but they’re locked in to this, what I call meat puppet.

That’s what it is. It’s just a meat puppet. We tell them, yes, a meat suit. So if you depersonalize and I think that that’s really. And I’m still working on that too because you know, everybody has an ego, but the ego is a component that you can’t live without. I just wrote an article on my substack on that. The ego. You either have one of two kinds of ego. You have a very angry, aggressive, what I call a prideful ego, or you have a humble ego. The humble ego isn’t born with you. The humble ego is what develops.

The, the self centered ego is what’s born with you. I’m hungry. I want what I want. But that’s survival. That’s survival. You have to have that. That’s right. But. And depending upon how your parents deal with you, they either encourage the selfish side of you or they help you to work your way through it as a child. And so my dad was. Let me just go back again. My dad Was a professional hypnotist. And he was born in Brighton, England. And in Brighton, England, back in the 40s. And. And, yeah, in the 40s. He was an observer of hypnotic.

What do they call them? People who did the hypnosis on stage. Stage hypnotists. And he would notice that they would do strange things with people, like make them take their shoes off and put them on the other feet. None of the people that he ever saw floated in the air. That’s all stage magician stuff. But he thought, if you can make people do stupid things, what if you can make people do good things? So he studied hypnosis. But what he discovered is. And I talked about the mass formation. He discovered something when he was, you know, in his late 20s, early 30s, he realized.

And by the way, he had a very famous clientele. Lucille Ball, Mae West. Remember Mae West? The actress George Benson. He had. I mean, I would set their doors. They came in. I was. I worked at the front desk when I decided I didn’t want to fall off a roof because it was a carpenter. When I was in my early 20s, I started working for him. All these amazing human beings came in and like, these are people I see on tv, in the movies all the time. And. And so he. He discovered that people are already hypnotized and that we are all subject to the strongest influence.

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Well, it’s. And culture is cult, Right. I mean that’s the whole point. We’re all cult. Exactly. And then making it. And you don’t realize I, I actually had the opportunity to be in like a sport called, you know, like hockey in Minnesota is so over the top and when you, when surfing. Yeah. And, and almost everybody should be in one of those. And then you can just experience it. And then you can see, then you can see patterns in your own culture and everywhere. And that’s what you’re talking about. And having the realization that your, your culture, everything you’re surrounded with is a cult or something.

But there’s healthy. It’s healthy to have a healthy culture. Right. I mean, you want to be part of something that’s healthy or that is a culture. I mean, you, it’s. Okay, well, here’s the thing. The cult, the idea of a cult itself has taken on a very negative connotation over the years, especially in our modern day, for the last 50 or 75 years. You know, I live in Oregon and so we had the Maharishi that came up here with all of his Rolls Royces and he had this, this ground of his, his worshipers would come to up in Antelope, Oregon.

He was a rapist and he was a maniac. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that the idea of a culture is a bad thing, because Christians are part of a culture and Jews are part of a culture. Yeah. I mean, Christianity is a cult. Jewish is. Yeah, it is a cult, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that all of that is bad. And America is a cult. We have a venerated leader. That’s basically what it means. You look up to a venerated leader and that person sort of leads the way for the culture. But you have to see what it means.

Right. You have to make a decision on specific things and realize that you’re not. Once you’re in a cult, if you’re blindly following what’s happening, that’s where the danger is. Right. That is absolutely true. And this is why, like, for example, Charles Manson had a little cult, right? And he trained those people, he set them up with drugs and he was able to penetrate because they didn’t have a firewall for their mind. They wanted to be loved and they wanted to worship something, and then they wanted to worship somebody. And so Manson got them to do all these crazy things and he took his cues from all kinds of weird ideas, including music and the devil himself.

Right. And so the idea is that we are subject to one of these two forces that we’re supposed to. That we exist in between and. Or dark energy. I mean, you can even think of that there’s two polarizing. From a science, there’s two polarizing energies that are. That’s right, yeah. Positive and negative. Right. Scientifically speaking. And we exist between those two. And again, William Prescott, a philosopher from the 1800, says, without temptation, you have no claim to virtue. Well, the virtue signals of our world don’t even understand the concept of. Of dealing properly with temptation because they think temptation is the be all and the end all of everything.

The virtue signaling crowd, you know? I know. Well, courage is the same way. You’re not. That’s true. Courageous. Unless you’re doing. You’re. You know what the consequences are of doing this thing. That is absolutely right. Right. So. But the idea was, I was trying to describe that what my dad discovered as a professional hypnotist, he had all these people coming to him. They wanted to stop overeating. The movie stars especially, they had problems with, you know, substance abuse and smoking and all the rest of it. My dad was friends with John Wayne, so I’m Just saying they kept, they would come to him and they wanted to have a quick fix for the problems that they didn’t know how to overcome.

So when you give somebody a suggestion, the only way hypnosis works is that if people will relinquish their free will to the suggestion of the hypnotist, does it work like were they able to stop smoking? Works until they get around the same influences and they start to slowly fade away from the stronger influence that they’ve given their free will over to. Which was forces again, right? It’s, it’s the forces, it’s always these forces that are at work. So what was revealed to him was the idea of letting go of outcomes. And this is, this is where I get the core of what my belief system is about.

Christianity informs one side of it. The other side of it is the self regulation side of it, which there are no manuals about that other than some Beatitudes and, you know, some commandments. But the self regulation side of it is contained in a scripture, Psalm 46:10. Be still and know that I am God. And if you, if you just change the words a little bit, if you realize that you had a relationship with a higher power and that higher power actually extended into this world to explain to you something very simple. Be still, don’t try to figure it out.

And know. And the word no is derived from the Latin, which means to be intimate with, right, to know, man knows his wife and so on, that I, God, have your back. If you just understand that idea, you struggle 99% less because you realize that there’s something greater than you at work. And so the external influences we can, in the presence of that single idea, calm down, don’t get upset, don’t let it get to you. I mean, have you ever heard yourself say that to yourself? Don’t, don’t let this person get to you, don’t step back.

Now a lot of times people will go and take a drink or they’ll start smoking. They try to remedy the problem with pills and people and all the rest of it. But at the same time, what if you just had an idea that was so strong that it was able to rescue you from virtually every circumstance in which you felt that you didn’t have control. The other thing is this the only thing that we can actually control is us. That’s right. That’s true. That’s all we. It’s not what happens to you, it’s how you deal with it.

That’s an age old concept. So if you Had a tool that would help you to reframe the situation. Step back for a minute. Like, you know, if you’re a producer of the movie and you’re. You’re sitting there as the director watching each frame and each scene play out. I used to produce the Laura Ingram show. Laura Ingram was a. Was a. And she still is a great communicator. So we would. Sometimes she would say something on a show that she didn’t feel set the right tone. So she would go back and rerecord it so that it said what she really wanted to say.

Now, that was a laborious thing, but at the same time, it was great because she always made the points she wanted to make. She always got the frame on the point. She reframed it so that it made more sense, so that it flowed better. This is how life can be. But you’re not actually editing. You’re not actually making movies. You’re not actually investing anything other than a moment of what I call real objectivity. Wait a minute. That didn’t come out right. Let me. Let me say this again. You see what I’m saying? It’s really. Let’s. Let’s.

Okay, let’s. Let’s look at this. If you’re. I mean, sometimes you deal with things that are incredibly difficult and it just is endless, you know, and you’re just like. And so how do you reconcile? You know, for me, I just. When that happens, I say, okay, I gotta release what I’m in control of and not in control of and then look for ways that I can be happy doing what I am doing because I can’t control the most powerful organization or company in the world or one of them censoring me. You know what I mean? Or the government, you know, all these things which we all in our world are experiencing.

So how do I back on, say, I can’t. I can make. I can sue them. Which, you know, maybe we’re doing that, but I can’t. I don’t really have control. So how do I back out and say, okay, I’m going to have peace. I’m going to have my. My family. I’m going to look for other ways to have fun. I’m going to. I’m not going to give them my agency. I’m not going to be a victim and let them control me. Right? That’s how I do it. How do you. How do you frame it? And what you’re saying, where your mind goes, your energy flows.

Now what we’re really dealing with is an economy of energy. And so when it comes right down to it, what I said about relinquishing the outcome, relinquishing and just going into a process, you know, if. Okay, so I like to watch the way President Trump deals with his detractors. You ever notice he doesn’t give up hardly any energy to these people that are trying to tear him down? He gives them a look and that tells them everything. It’s like, I’m determined to get through this. But he doesn’t waste energy. That’s, you know, he doesn’t sleep because he has a lot to do.

So he’s not allowing circumstances to dictate to him. And I’ll tell you what, I, the way I phrased it, you are either the effect of a cause, and this is where the mass formation hypnosis comes in, or you’re the cause of an effect. Now, if you’re not the effect of a cause, you’re not bouncing off a wall because the wall is the cause. You’re running up against the wall. There’s all kinds of walls in our lives. If you’re not going to bounce off of the wall, you are going to become the cause of an effect, which is when people try to tear you down, when people try to do you harm.

How you deal with it determines what they do next. And that has a. There’s a huge amount of power in that. Huge. On a personal level, on a business level, you don’t let people inject you with their agenda by not reacting to it. You just see it for what it is. You step back, you become objective. And in that idea of being still and knowing, you, you wonder about it. And I wanted to say the third level of consciousness is not knowing. So when you don’t know what to do, you know that you don’t know. And the question is, how do you know? You don’t know because you can’t pull out of your little bag of tricks up here the answer.

You try to look for the answer and you, by the way, you can’t find the answer in the place where the problem exists. You have to step back for a minute. If you go into your bag of tricks, you’re only going to find what you’ve already done and already know. You’re not going to find a new answer. New answers can come to people all the time. Look at technology. Where does it come from, the ideas for this new technology? Well, I think we’re entering a new fate. Well, obviously, things are coming at us 100 miles an hour, right now we’re entering a new phase where techno, all these concepts.

When you’re talking about intuition, I want you to say what this Blue Brain project is in all more detail and quantum physics and string theory and all these things that you’re talking about. I think technology and science, science is starting to collide with this spiritual world. We’re starting to make sense of some of this and it’s an exciting time to be alive. I, I, I think I agree, but it is a, you know, a flip coin. There is dark energy, there is light energy, and I for one don’t want to be messed up into the darkness because it can be pretty overwhelming and ugly.

So I, it’s, it’s just an exciting time. But I, that’s fear. And I’m going to just say this one more time before we get to the Blue Brain project again. The fear is so destructive. And that’s why like when I, when I want to get back to this AI comment I made, you know, like we’re at Davos and stuff, they’re talking about how this, you, this horrible reality of what AI can bring us to where we have absolutely no free will and which is true, it can get to use an example of China. That’s where they’re actually doing that.

The kids reading their thoughts and then inflicting a punishment if they’re not studying or thinking about studying that whole time. I mean, it’s so destructive because part of being a child is letting your brain wander at times. I mean, leave the kid alone. The problem I have is when they’re talking about fear around AI without ever coming up with ideas on how we can guide it to a better solution, that’s always about fear and how bad it is without us looking at, well, how do we take this AI and use it as a tool to actually create something amazing? There’s never the solutions behind it.

That’s when I know that it’s a fear agenda. It is. And of course the Blue Brain project is this pioneering initiative aimed at creating a digital reconstruction of the, of a mouse brain, particularly the brain, to, to enhance our relationship and understanding of the brain structure and function. So what they’re trying to do is they’re finding, trying to find every possible way to touch areas of our internal self and see what it does. This is really what they’ve been doing for years. Or they started, the CIA started doing these bizarre experiments on people with electroshock and all of the rest of it.

This has been going on for decades. MK Ultra was part of that Ultra. Exactly. They, they, they want to understand. And now with AI, they’re actually unlocking that. And, but the. Here’s the danger of AI that it, it will give them access to the deepest parts of our brain, but they’re never going to be able to reach the part of us that is in connection with the spirit of our creator. That’s right. That’s right. They’re just never going to be able to do it, but they’re going to get close and they can do it through sensory stimulation.

And this is what they’ve already done. You have a Manchurian Candidate handler. It’s called your smartphone. It feeds you information. It knows what you’re thinking. It’s weird. One of my brothers told me he’s asleep one night and all of a sudden Siri says to him, what did you want? He didn’t say anything. It is maybe even at that level of being able to detect certain brain activity. That’s true. It can. Well, you can, you can. They can read your brain waves, they can react to your brain waves. They can. That technology exists. You just. You use an example in China where they’re doing that.

Exactly. Okay, so knowing that this is the reality and that there’s dark energy forces that have control of some of this, what do we do to combat it in a realistic way where we can live our life and, and be happy and, and do. And create good things for the planet? It’s the only question that really matters at this point in time. I have a way of identifying what we have to do, and then I can tell you how to do it. But the idea is you must detect it so you can deflect it if you remember.

Did you see the Matrix movie? Yeah. And I got to say that is that. And people will not give this guy a chance. But I know for a fact that Tom Althouse wrote a screenplay that matches that Matrix movie. There’s over hundreds of duplicate things that he wrote in his screenplay that matches the final screenplay. And that guy deserves some recognition for the work he did. Anyways, keep going. I know that there are several people who have claimed that that was stolen from them. I have read many stories about this. So these two guys who are now girls, some.

Some questionable things around them. So. Well, and if somebody has hundreds of duplicates to their original screenplay and then what goes into to, you know, final. Yeah, it’s like, come on, guys, this guy deserves some recognition here. But anyways, bring them the. The reason why I say the Matrix movie was so profound, people. Yes. This is A profound vision of where things could go. Yes. There is a scene in there where he’s leaning backward dodging bullets. So his perception, see, his awakened perception allows him to see these bullets coming at him. And you know that scientists have discovered something that the way the brain process information is that time slows down at a certain point when you’re observing something.

Time literally in the brain, not in actual time, but in the brain, it slows down when you’re on a roller coaster or there are times when you have a car accident, everything happens in slow motion. If you are subjective, in a subjective state, when that’s happening, then you are being like, you know, silly Putty. Remember Silly Putty, you’re taking an impression from something else. It’s. It’s impressing itself on you. But if you’re in an objective state, meaning it’s the opposite of the subjective state, which is that you are being the effect of a cause. In the objective state, you are separated into this other potential realm which I described.

When I was a child, I was in a timeless place. There was no time. I only knew it was passing because I saw myself going to bed, eating breakfast, going to school, coming. You mean when you were. When you were out of your body? Yes, when I was out of my body, I was in that timeless construct, let’s say, excuse me, I have allergies, and I was in that timeless construct. And what I brought back with me was a sense of that timelessness. And because what I realized also from that was that the human experiences time differently than the conscious self.

Conscious self, you know, that the brain actually doesn’t experience time. This is a new article that I just read from Scientific American. The brain has no sense of time, but it’s our relationship with our environment that we sense things changing and the sun coming up and going down and all these things. We get hungry. And it’s our body that experiences time, not our brain, not our mind, not our soul. We don’t experience time well as a child. We don’t experience time quite like we do as an adult. Right. Because as a child, it’s just like it’s for things are forever.

A day is like forever. As an adult, it’s like, I don’t have any time in my day. No, I know. Trust me. Yeah. So different. But you see children. And again, let’s go back to this idea of these different planes. Children have not learned to be reactive. They’re not as plugged into their physical self as adults are. Because to the adult, the physical self is Almost everything to the child, the world, the realm of imagination, or another side of that is intuition. Because children can also tell when they don’t feel something right about another person or an adult.

My, my kids, Daddy, there’s something wrong with that person. Okay, I understand. They have sense. They have a sense of things. It’s different because they haven’t lost touch with their intuitive side. That intuitive side also is connected through innocence because they haven’t been programmed. We’re all born to succeed, but we are programmed to fail. And so children have this. That’s why children are so important. That’s why Jesus said, please don’t keep the children from coming to me, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. That the uncomplicated mind is closer to the light and the truth. That’s the way it is.

Yeah, you simplify things in your mind. Things are, things can be pretty simple as you learn things. The best teachers are the ones that can teach things in the simplest form, right? Absolutely. And you know, things aren’t quite right when they have to explain it in such a complicated manner all the time. It’s like, ah, that sounds like either they don’t understand it or that’s an agenda. 100%, 100%. And my mind, see, this is the other thing that the side effect of me having an out of body experience was I couldn’t allow my mind to be drawn into the complicatedness of life.

So I still have all these emotions, I’m still normally human, but I’m super aware of the things that would tend to draw me over out of myself and into somebody else’s world. Because that’s all. That’s what influencers do. They are all basically hypnotists and they are, they’re exercising a certain degree of being the strongest influence in that moment. And you. But the weird part of this is the short attention span theater part of it because we have so many influences coming at us all the time that we’re getting imprinted like this, like, you know, like a conveyor belt.

We need to slow down. What really needs to happen is we need to slow down. And so what my dad discovered about us being subject to the strongest influence was it goes Back to Psalm 46, 10, be still and know. To know means to get with the source, to know, to be intimate with. What do you, what do you know? Well, you may know that you don’t know, and that’s okay. You know, I love knowing that I don’t know. And my wife will say to me, well, what about this And I go, I can’t tell you what I don’t know.

And not knowing is a good, is not a bad state. It just kind of put up what I say is just kind of put these things up on the shelf and say, I’m just going to see what else happens. And then we’ll know. You know, we’ll maybe know and maybe we won’t, but I’m not going to. People feel they, they need to have an answer, and that needing to have an answer will almost always lead to something bad. That’s a time pressure problem. You see, you feel. Everybody feels like they’re running out of time, but time doesn’t actually exist.

Did you know that? There’s no scale, there’s no line between yesterday, today, and tomorrow. See, I don’t quite understand the no time thing in, in the sense of reality, because I’m still getting older. Do you know what I mean? Like, process it. I know, but I’m still, I’m getting older. I, I only have a certain amount of 25 years left or whatever. 35 years left. I don’t know, maybe I have 50 years left. I hope I have 50 years left. But my point is, is that you still. I, I don’t know. I haven’t mentally gotten to that point where I, I conceptually can understand the no time thing, but I mentally can’t get there because I’m getting older and I only have a certain amount of time with my kids when I go out to dinner with them.

Right. I get it. Yeah. But that is a time idea. That’s a concept of time. And that concept is, is constantly being measured. If you stop measuring time, you ever have that moment where you, you’re doing something and then two hours goes by and you go, where’d the time go? Time didn’t go anywhere. You just weren’t cognizant. You weren’t focused on it. And when you’re focused on it, you know, I remember when I was. What time flies then. Next thing you know, it’s six hours later. That’s right. When you’re not focused on time, it has a, you have a different relationship and it has a different effect upon you.

And I remember when I was in seventh grade, there was this big round clock on the standard school clock on the wall. I hated that clock. You know why? I would watch the second hand tick, tick. That second hand that controlled those bigger hands was my master. It kept me sitting there. But that’s because you didn’t want to be in school all day. Long slogging away as a kid. So that became like if you didn’t watch it, you just forced yourself to participate. Time to go faster. Guess what? There is a natural rhythm and flow for the, the human mind and the human soul.

And when you’re not in sync with that, then you feel the gravity, the weight of life. And that’s what I was feeling. I, I wanted to be surfing. I wanted to be anywhere but there. It wouldn’t have mattered. Poop. I would have wanted to be there instead of sitting in that room having those ideas imposed upon me. I wasn’t in a such sync with it. Now I had teachers that recognized that about me. This is why I’ve written over 30 books. Because I had one teacher who was a bit of a wackadoodle. He had rubber duckies all around his, his classroom.

He was a weird guy, but he saw, he recognized in me that he wasn’t going to do anything to threaten me, to intimidate me, to get me to read my Spanish American history book, which I didn’t care about. So he worked with me and, and he was a, he was, on top of everything else, he was a creative writer writing teacher. And so I got into creative writing because he worked with me. He showed interest in you. Me. To develop a side of myself that I was interested in. See, this is the way the school system should work.

Reading, writing, arithmetic. Very good. Let’s learn those concepts now. Let’s move kids toward various things that they want to do. They want, everybody wants to go out and have pe, right? You were in a sports cult. You said, well, there’s nothing wrong with that because you can learn all kinds of physics, you can learn all kinds of interesting things through sports. That’s why people love sports, because they connect with it on a visceral, on a human level, on a mental level, on an emotional level. It can be, it can be abusive and out of control. But yes, there’s so many positives too.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, I had the same thing as a kid. I, I don’t know, I never talk about it, but when I’m left handed, right. And so when I was little I wrote Mirrored, right. And I started doing some research on it. How do I write Mirrored you where you write everything backwards and there’s a certain small percentage of people who are left hand that process things differently and then do it as a picture. And Leonardo da Vinci wrote like that. Right, That’s a famous one. But, but it’s a, it’s, there’s A certain percentage of left handers or I don’t even know, maybe right handers do too.

But it’s mostly left handers and it’s a small. Like less than 5% of left handers do that as a kid. And so I did that. And so I struggled learning, you know, and then my dad sat me down and said, no, this is how you write. And. But they thought I was mentally challenged. I was mentally. So I started in the lowest reading group. I ended up being the first one of the entire district to finish my reading. But that was, I mean, that’s how I was treated as a kid. You know, they didn’t know how to deal with me.

And so I, I, so I had that same issue that you had where they just put you in these different categories when in reality I was just. I thought and did things differently. Well, that was a gift. Look at you now. Well, yeah, you turned out to be not one of the clones. You turned out to be a kind of a more original version of the self that you are meant to be. Now the question you could ask anybody is, are you the person you feel that you’re meant to be? Most people would say no because they know that they have all this conditioning, they have all these processes they’ve been forced to, to undergo in order to get where they are and think.

Thankfully, that was never done to me. You know, my dad knew that I was a surfer. He knew I was out partying at night. He would sit up and wait for me to come home. But at the same time, he never twisted my arm. And eventually, when I was in my early, late, actually late teens, I almost died several times in very bad accidents. I started following his observation exercise. People call it meditation, mindfulness. He was working with all these famous people. I thought they got to be learning something from him. And I knew if I didn’t start doing this process, process of learning how to be still and know, I wasn’t going to last long.

I was a very out of control kid and I had a lot of energy that I didn’t know what to do with. Well, your dad was, your dad was, was great to you because he gave you that freedom, right? Isn’t that what you’re saying? He’s giving. He gave you that freedom to be who you are. Yes, he absolutely did. He never twisted my arm. He never forced. I was terrible in school. I was absolutely terrible. But I was also dyslexic. So I would write everything. Half of everything I wrote was backwards. So you had this thing dyslexia is probably the same as what.

And my dad was dyslexic. And he forced sign of genius, by the way. Well, he got through. He has two master’s degrees. There you go. In engineering. But he was dyslexic, so. But they didn’t know back then what that was. Yeah, so that was a very struggle. But I. I think that being different is a struggle in and of itself because you’re always up against the. The terrain of the world, expecting you to be a certain way that doesn’t fit your. And I think actually almost everybody probably has this to a certain degree, that you’re always expected to be different than who you truly are.

You know, for me, I’m. I just feel it overwhelming almost. And I said, screw it. I’m going to be me because I can’t be what they want me to be. And I think that’s true for almost everyone. Right? It is, except for, unfortunately, in the mass formation, once you accept the imprint of the mass formation, once you accept the imprint of the influence. The sad part is that you have surrendered a part of your free will that. And that free will was going to take you in a certain direction to that point and that place where you are the person that you were meant to be, whatever that means.

But do you feel that inside? Like, you know, some people don’t know. And I’ll tell you why. When a kid gets corrupted by a drug dealer. I heard somebody talking about this last night on television. I think it was on the Gutfeld show. Michael Malice was saying, the first one’s free, and the first one’s always free. It gets you hooked. But then once you get hooked, you tend to defend the dealer, whoever is able to inject an idea in you that corrupts you and takes you away from the direction that you were actually meant to go.

You have a tendency to defend it as if it was life itself. And that’s what we’re seeing now. That’s what we’re seeing now. We’re seeing just craziness. It’s like. And we all say, well, how do we reach these people? Because they’re just. They’re not even thinking clearly at all. They think they’re right and they’re doing really bad things thinking they’re right. You know, Then that’s what every. Every tragedy, every, you know, mass death and killing comes from people thinking they’re doing something right. They all fall into the mass formation and they literally, like the crazy people on the.

On the dark blue side of the left they’re defending the people that are our military, our ICE agents are trying to apprehend to make America safer. Well, they’re defending, they’re, they’re actually defending human traffickers and organ traffickers and child killers and stuff. And they don’t even realize it. No, they do. They don’t care because it’s not the other guy. But, but the other guy. Okay, well, they’ve come into their head that the other guy is doing the same thing and we, the ends justify the means. Did you ever see the classic movie Lord of the Flies? Yeah, well, I’ve read the book.

The new one isn’t as good. The black and white version, made in the 50s, is really brilliant because it shows how a person who ends up in a position of authority and influence is able to just direct everybody’s attention where he wants to. And that’s what happens, you know, you know the story that the little leader of the, of the gang on the tyrant. Yeah, the little tyrant. And what happens is power corrupts. And so when you have that ability to, to focus people’s attention, Hitler did it. Well, and people that, that power is something they love.

It’s almost a drug in and of itself. Oh, it is a drug. Yeah, it is a drug. And, and unfortunately, you know, Jordan B. Peterson, brilliant man. He gave a series of talks about the Nazis and how they would go out, round people up, take them out to a trench, shoot them in the head and go home and have dinner with their, their family as if nothing had happened. And what happened was they were told these, these, the Nazi soldiers were told, you don’t have to do this. But many of them said, no, I want to be true to my countrymen.

But see behind that, and underneath that was a fear of not being part of something greater than themselves. So even when we are part of something greater than ourselves, it can be a dark mass formation as opposed to, let’s say, Christian movement. Christians are wonderful people. Not all of them are sincere, but they’re still better than the people on the dark side of the equation. They’re part of a mass formation. They are. But the mass formation has better ideas. Well, my, I, I’ve, my dad had a massive stroke, right. And so we, and my mom died.

And so we were taking care of his finances. And one of the things that, and everybody needs to look at their elderly parents, finances, I’m telling you right at, right now. Yes, because they are getting taken advantage of left and right. Hundred percent. And there was one place that was collecting for, from them A service for over seven years without them ever doing this service. And, and I was so angry with this. And I’m not going to say the names of the people and stuff, but I was so angry that they were doing this, and then they wanted.

They wouldn’t just cancel it. They wanted us to fill up this form and they were still taking from us. And in order to cancel, because it was part of their contract, you had to feel. I’m like, my dad can’t read. He can’t write, he can’t drive. He had a massive stroke. Why in the hell do I have to fill out a form? So, you know, you stop charging him. There’s something wrong here. So anyway, so I was arguing with these people and I finally said to the guy, well, the manager said that he. He couldn’t. He goes, I’m just following the rules.

This is policy. This is what my job said. I’m like, oh, come on, you just follow the rules. And then I finally, I just want to talk to your manager. If you don’t have power to do anything, give me another. Escalate this. So I ended up talking to the district manager of this place, and he was doing the same old thing. He was better, but he had power to do something. And I finally said, you know what? You guys have been doing this and taking advantage of people for so long, you can’t even tell anymore when.

When your behavior crosses a line. Wow. And he sat there and he said, that was when he got calm. He said, okay, I will. I will cross this out. See, the truth, power. Yeah, the truth has so much power. But, you know, again, there are people. My wife and I took a trip recently, six months ago, going through tsa. There was this. You could just tell that in the eyes. This TSA agent just started taking stuff out of my wife’s makeup bag and things of that. A very nice, expensive products. Nope, can’t take that. Nope, can’t take that.

What? Hold on. This is all allowed. No, Nope, can’t take that. This person. I don’t care. Yeah, no, they didn’t care. They were having some tyrant power trip. It was a power trip. This little five foot tall, three feet wide. And my wife’s very attractive. You know, she was a model at one time. She just hated my wife. And so everything I said, don’t, don’t say anything to her because all it’s going to do is antagonize her. There are. And that’s so hard, though. My husband says the same thing to me. Just don’t say anything. I’m like, I’m ready.

I just. Okay, I have to sit here. I know which ones will respond because if you say one thing, you could see whether or not they’re following you. But when they decide to close it off and shut you down. This is a mass. For this is person is part of a mass formation because they have the force of the, of the TSA behind them so they can do it. I wrote a letter, I did everything I could to, to, you know, undo this injustice. And they didn’t care that none of them care because they say, I’m just doing, she was just doing her job.

Just doing your job. So, so you see that the idea though is that once you get corrupted, you have a choice to make about whether or not you want to continue going down that path. Well, that gets back to the Jordan Peterson conversation about these people. Yes, that’s the, that’s the full circle. That’s why I wanted to bring that up. But you see, if you do it by choice, it’s even worse. It’s even worse because you choose to ignore reality. Yep. You know, and you say, well, you know, I’m just doing my job. I mean that to them, murdering people and throwing them in a mass grave was a job.

They go home, have normal conversations with their, their wives and children. But, but the idea is this, is that there is a potential. You know, I mean, I’m, listen, I, I’ll admit I am, I can’t be anything but pro life. But there are some people who just ignore the reality. And I mean, and then there are some people who one day, after many, many instances of ignoring reality, they wake up and they have this ultimate realization like, oh my God, what have I been doing? And these are the greatest spokespeople. Yes, I know. The greatest spokespeople for the cause because they’ve, they’ve, they’ve chosen out of it.

Well, I have a hard time because I’m a libertarian leaning person. I’m not a, I’m not an anarchist because there’s the control of your own body versus this little tiny baby. And so, so I would never hurt the baby. Like, I would never personally do that. But I’m like, from a legislative standpoint, it’s like, do we have the right to tell somebody else what to do with their body? And at what point I, that’s why I hate this conversation. But at what point did they already make the decision? Well, I’ll tell you, you know what I’m saying? And that’s right that’s the key.

But still, these people are. Let me put it to you this way. And I don’t mean to be mean about it, but they. They started the process by not being in control of their own body. That’s how it works. That is true. They didn’t exercise the control that they say that they have or wanted. And. And so what they do is then. And this is the other thing. Sometimes, though, people are forced to do they never had. I mean, that’s a different situation. I would rather save the life of the mother than the child. So I’m in that category.

Right. If. If a mother has a complicated pregnancy and one. You know, I know a lady who actually gave birth to twins and knew she was going to die and was okay with it, and she chose it. Yeah, it was. She knew it was gonna. You know, she was bled to death. But the idea is that we have choices, but what they do. And this is the other thing. Have you ever seen a kid that did something wrong and then didn’t make an excuse for it? Well, it wasn’t my fault. It was. I didn’t know. Well, there’s a thousand excuses when you do something you shouldn’t do.

And then there’s the kid that says, yeah, I was wrong. My kids would. Your kids would do that? Well, my. My niece, her. Her younger sister is like 15 months younger. And when she was little, she was three years old, and the other one was like two or something, and she kicked her. My sister went up to her. Did you kick your little sister? She looked at her. Yes, I did. Everybody started laughing. It just reminds me of that. She was just so forthright. Yes, she’s my goddaughter, but, yeah, it is. It’s fun. It’s funny when little kids do it.

But what does that mean when you own your own situation? She was just a little kid. It was cute. But you’re talking about something a little bit more profound here. Right? Well, I mean, the. The idea is that you always have a choice. And. And unless, of course, you are born without a conscience, and some people are born without a conscience. I don’t know. I mean, I’ve maybe met a few of them in my life, but everybody has a sense of right and wrong. Part of that is imposed by the culture. Part of it is imposed by nature, because we have.

I mean, the idea that you have a sense of right and wrong is. Don’t put your finger in the fire. Whoa. That’s. That’s not a good thing to do. We all have an Innate sense of knowing that there are boundaries of things that we can and shouldn’t do. So we all have that to begin with. Then culture comes along and. And the cult leaders come along and they tell you, yeah, you can do whatever you want. And. And you know, my saying for that is the devil is in those details. The devil’s in the details. The dark energy.

Okay. I could talk to you all day long. This show is going to be long. Where can people follow you and get copies of your books? And you have a podcast as well. I have a podcast, but where I want to drive people. And they can find everything on my website atescape your mindsprison.com. excellent. Because that’s what everything is there. All the links to my substack, all the links to my podcast, all the links to my interviews that I. I’ve done a lot of interviews. I love doing interviews. This is where my life makes sense to me, is being with you.

Well, I got to get on. I got to get on your podcast, and we can continue this conversation. I would love that. I would love that. Well, thank you, David. You’re master at this, as you’ve been in this industry for a long time. So I didn’t even get to 110 of what I wanted to talk about. I know. My premonition in a dream. Did you see that in my book? Pay attention to your intuition. Yeah. Yeah. I saved my son’s life because I was shown three days ahead what was going to happen, and it unfolded exactly.

It’s just as I saw it. Incredible. And that’s. That’s. And it’s just. You have to let it flow through you. That’s why I was telling you that I’ve been training on this because. So I can learn how he calls it flow. It’s a flow method. And just learn the method is what I’m trying to. I have a book that I wrote called Flowing Through Time, and it’s all about that. Yeah, this is excellent. I love this stuff. Love this stuff. Prison.com. i’m sorry, repeat it again. Escape your minds. Prison.com. thank you so much, David. I really appreciate it.

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