Tectonic Shifts of Influence: Power Structures are being Rewritten w/ Sam Anthony

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Welcome to Business Game Changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have Sam Anthony coming back to the program. We’re going to talk about the media and the profound effect it’s having on this war and on academia and just the culture in general. I want people to think differently and get an idea of how different these times are and we’re relating it to. You’re going to hear some things on how the bots are working and affecting people’s views on the Ukraine war and also just how profound the cultural shifts are right now. And hopefully you’ll get an idea of, of the positive nature of the decentralized information sharing and how it can fundamentally impact our world and from peace to prosperity to many things.

It’s a very inspiring show. I think once you start to real just how meaningful this is to decentralize information, how profound. The Internet has been changing our lives and we see a lot of dark things about it, you know, the control structure and things like that. But there’s also this flipped edge of it and total loss of control for those in power as it decentralizes and goes into the hands of the people. And it’s. It’s a fun conversation. Hopefully it’ll get you thinking. Before I get into that, I want to talk about this Collagen peptides. This is something that I’m selling with Native Path and everybody knows that I’m really getting in, that watches me, is knows that I’m getting into peptides because I’ve lost £25 and I feel better and I’m really working on it this year.

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Always excited to talk to you. Well, that’s great. I know we always have really good conversations. I want to talk about how the media is collapsing more than people realize and what that means. And it’s, it’s a found, it’s a seismic shift that I don’t think people understand. How, how serious is it in these newsrooms? I mean, they don’t have any money, right? Their whole structure is based on a house of cards because they don’t have the funding to fund their newsrooms anymore. No. Well, it’s all diminishing. I mean, you know, we’ve all experienced all the lies that they’ve been telling us.

And, you know, people just are kind of blown away that they still keep perpetuating the same lies over and over. Maybe just a different. But it, it’s amazing they haven’t learned their lesson. But, you know, we did learn that they were getting a large amount of money through usaid, right? So if you want to know why they were lying to you, it’s because they were getting paid to. That’s exactly the reason. People will do anything that they’re told to do. When they get you, give them a check. So they really have absolutely no integrity. However, the, the good news is, you know, and everybody’s seen the layoffs, right? And this is where I tell people on LinkedIn, there’s almost a half a million people that are, call themselves freelance journalists.

I, we’re talking about anybody that had worked for a local paper in some small community to, you know, network tv. I mean, they’re all becoming freelance because they’re trying to figure out where to go to get work. I had a conversation with a young girl yesterday out of San Francisco, and she had emailed me asking me questions, and I said, let’s talk about it. You know, give me your number. So I called her and I said, so when did you graduate? You know, journalism school. She went to Columbia School of Journalism and she lives in San Francisco.

And she says, why? I just graduated and I’ve been looking for a job and there is none. There’s, well, because everybody’s being laid off. But let’s think about it. Like, I, I was doing some research and a television show like Ellen Degeneres or something. They have 50 people on staff just to do a one person show. Right. Or to do this show. Whereas now on the Internet you don’t. I mean, you might have a staff of a few people that would compare to a show like that. These, they were so bloated in costs so that, you know, because the cost of doing this has decreased so substantially that they just can’t compete anymore.

Plus they’re just not as, I mean, they’re just not as good. How can you not with 50 people? God, I can just imagine what I can do with 50 people. They’re just, they can’t compete anymore either. Sarah, they had a monopoly for 50 years. Okay. Or more. And there was no thing, nothing called the Internet. There was no YouTube, there was no rumble. There was no way for you to have your own show unless they hired you. Okay? So they had a monopoly and all the ad revenue went to them. And then. Well, I’m trying to think of what his name was that invented the Internet.

The Vice President and then Al Gore. Better the Internet. And, and now you have these different business models which is a more efficient mechanism for delivering information. It doesn’t matter if it’s a show like this or if it’s, you know, written content. I mean, for me to deliver a sports, like a baseball game, you know, a national game to 10 million people costs the same as if I distributed it to one. I mean it’s virtually nothing. It’s. And that’s what they’re competing against is the physical. Well, yeah, and so their products are antiquated. So what’s happening is, and we have this conversation, the, it’s.

There’s still a demand for news. It’s just the way people consume it has changed. And that’s why they’re in the mess they’re in, because their audience is diminishing. Because people are watching shows like yours or Sean from SGT or SG and none or anybody. I mean there’s just so many different options out there. Not for nothing, but there is an ocean of content creators across the globe that are all on the Internet and they completely dwarf the handful of network TV stations with their shows. Well, yeah, because when we sued Google, the 15 of us that got taken down off YouTube, we had more combined viewership than all the mainstream media.

And I always say this, that was in our lawsuit. We added up the viewership number, compared it to their viewership number. We had more than them. It was. And that was in 2019. So imagine now. Oh it look, you have one guy named Joe Rogan that is bigger on one episode than every network combined. That’s right. That doesn’t tell you something. I mean, so it’s that whole, that whole business, 1/5 the price of one of Ellen Generous DeGeneres shows. I. I would venture to say it’s even less. I mean, you know, it’s. It’s other than it’s Joe Rogan.

So I don’t know what. He probably has a decent staff because he makes so much money that he’s spending on all these things. But my point is that probably the actual cost of that is significantly less than one show network time show of Ellen DeGeneres, who probably has 1/100, maybe even less than that viewership back in the day. You know, like a couple. Yeah, yeah. I don’t think she’s even on the air anymore. But this was a few years ago when I was analyzing it. You’re exactly correct. It’s. It’s like I said, it’s an outdated, antiquated product that eventually will be gone.

The nail in the coffin that I see is if Robert Kennedy Jr. Pulls the plug on the pharmaceutical ads, the moment that happens, they immediately go to the red. It’s because they do that. That’s a big deal. Do you think he’ll know that? So I will tell you. I had a conversation with somebody last week who called me, who works with him. I met her six months ago, seven months ago, and she called me specifically because he put her in charge of the Maha Institute. And they want to leverage our platform for distribution for their content.

But we brought up the topic of this and she said, it’s on our agenda. And I said, well, does it take congressional approval? She goes, I don’t think so. That would change the game. Like going. And the game’s already changing and they’re already in the, you know, one step into the grave. But that would end it. Yeah. Well, keep in mind this is just me having a conversation. What? Not with Robert Kennedy Jr. With somebody else that works with it. Yeah. So I don’t personally know if he could do it. She thought, based on the conversation, that he was able to do it.

But for all you know, maybe it will take congressional approval. But in any event, it’s really not necessary for them to be average advertising anyway. They don’t have to. If you, if you had some kind of problem and you went to the doctor and the doctor prescribed you something, would you not take it because you didn’t see it on tv? You just say, what is it? He’d Tell you, the advertising money, the big pharma advertising money for the big media is to make sure that they’re always covered in good light and that the truth and the news relating around their drugs and things that actually happen and side effects and all that other stuff never gets reported but.

Or is a minimal version of it. Yeah. Yes, because they’re funding the operation, but all that stuff’s going to be gone. So it just. Sarah, it’s. I know. It’s a it. Good times are ahead. That’s what I’m going to tell you. Because amazing there is. It went from. Remember when you got kicked off of YouTube and you’re going, what do I do now? To now we’re at Rumble. You got kicked off of all the Facebook and all the different tech giants. And now all of a sudden, five years later, things are starting to move forward and different innovators, different entrepreneurs created products and all of a sudden, you know, things are.

Now you could see the light at the end of the tunnel. It’s not looking good for them because the, you know, they, they had a monopoly for years. All that stuff is. Is being transformed because. Not because people, People thought they were lying, which they do. But really it was just. Because I’d rather watch Sarah Westall than watch somebody else than somebody they pick that is just vanilla that will repeat their lies and propaganda. Yeah. So it’s. It could be that somebody never saw Ellen DeGeneres before in their life, but they happen to go through Rumble.

They happen to resonate with you. And this is the person that they like to wake up in the morning and watch their. Watch your show. There’s no difference between watching a show on Rumble, which you could watch on your TV or watch an Ella. An Ellen Degenerate show, or. There isn’t. It’s. It’s. You’re still watching something that resonates with you. So people have. The people have choices is what I’m trying to tell you. It’s not like, well, today we have at this time, Ellen DeGeneres. Well, I don’t like her. I like somebody else. Well, now you just go to the Internet and go, here’s 17 million people.

Pick one. Well, you know, when we were back in the day, back in the early 90s, we talked about how there are going to be 500 channels competing. And, you know, we thought that was a big deal. And. And they were. I had no idea how much they were. Right. It’s not just 500 channels. It’s a million channels competing. Yeah. Or More millions. It’s. It’s not what. It’s totally decentralized and it’s. They can’t. The cat is already out of the bag and they can’t put it back. And they tried to put it back in 2020 with all the censorship, kicking everybody off the platforms, and they can’t put it back in the bag.

But it’s affecting everything. It’s affecting war reporting and, and who. They can’t. You know, what it’s doing, which is really great, is because we’re getting more of the truth is leaking out on wars, and we’re not going to talk about war in detail because I know we already decided before we started, we’re not going to totally dive into that, the details of war. But the, the thing is, and I want you to get your opinion on this, is that because the Internet is so decentralized, we’re getting a lot more disinformation, of course. But we’re also getting a lot more people reporting locally with truth getting out there.

And it’s making it much harder for the propaganda networks to convince everybody to go to war. Only 19% of Republicans approved of Trump going to war against Iran and siding with Israel as far as actually going in a hot war. And that’s. I mean. And even less Democrats. Nobody wants to go to war because we all are so much more connected. We don’t want to bomb. Just like you don’t want to bomb your neighbor now. We don’t want to bomb our Internet buddy that happens to live in another country. They’ve. Everything’s become so much smaller. Nobody wants to hurt your neighbor.

Nobody wants. And everybody becomes our neighbor in that way. And war is becoming a lot less desirable to everybody. Not that it was ever desirable, but you know what I’m saying, It’s just a way for governments to gain more power and to get done what they need to do, and they leverage the media to lie to us. So now what happens with the decentralization that you’re talking about? Out with news reporting that allows complete free speech without being filtered through whoever the gatekeepers are. It really screws up that whole business model because now you’re getting direct reporting.

I mean, look in la, all the, all the rioting happening, and you had mainstream media telling you that it’s mostly, you know, peaceful protests. They’re just burning the living hell out of the city. Believe it. Yeah, yeah. Same thing in Minneapolis, you know, what was it, four years ago, five years ago, Whatever it was, I mean, you know, of burning. Yeah. Well, and, and the point of this is, Sam, and it’s so profound because, you know, the truth will set you free kind of stuff is true. And why free speech is such paramount. Yeah, we’re getting disinformation, but you’re also getting the truth that you never got before.

And the truth ends up solving all these issues because good people see what’s really going on and they, they want it to stop. And that’s the only way to create worldwide peace, is for free speech to be accessible all around the world at the local level. No question about it. And you know what? People are smart enough to figure out what’s real and what’s not real. Right. I mean, so, you know, I see stuff on the Internet all the time and I read it and I go, God, I wish that was true, but I’m sure it’s probably bs.

You just know you could figure it out. Right. And so if something actually is real, you look it up and you could say, okay, that’s interesting. Let me take a look at this. And then you could start to figure out if that was an actual accurate statement. Not so. People are not dumb. They will be able to figure this out, and the, the people like it. In our case, because we have local news reporting all over the United States, the people are going to be reading the local content and they’re going to decide if that person is somebody worth reading or not.

That’s exactly. It’s called the free market. Right. So if somebody doesn’t like that person’s views or like what they’re saying or doesn’t believe in them, they’re never reading an article that they ever submit it, and that’s how it works. So you know what, you’re actually accurate with that, Sarah. I. Not that you’re not always accurate, but. Right. No, it’s, it’s, it’s all the local news reporting and the ability to get uncensored information to the public is really a game changer because it’ll change the world. And that’s. It’ll. It will bring in peace now. It’ll be even probably more traumatic and disruptive in certain pockets here and there.

But overall, over time, it’ll just keep marching towards peace and an understanding. Just like forcing your family to talk creates, even though it creates more storming while you’re talking. Well, at the end of all this talking and communication, you end up getting along better. Yeah, no, I see it, I see it. So it’s, it’s kind of imperative, or actually it’s. It’s a it’s a good thing that everything transpired the way it is or the way it has been simply because you got to see what you got. And now you’re seeing, you’re witnessing firsthand the fixing of all that that took place.

I’m talking about the legacy media. So even though nobody likes to be lied to now the good news is you could actually turn somewhere else and get information that will resonate with you more trustworthy people. You have options. That’s the whole key. So these, the good news is as, and you know, your audience knows, Sarah’s certainly part of our organization, our company, but as we start building and scaling this up, this becomes the next mainstream media where we have free flowing information, people can report news without censorship. And I think that’s really important. But you know, I, I never really thought about it as far as you’re bringing this to, you know, where, where it actually, you know, this is going to stop war, wars simply because the people aren’t going to want it.

There’s no political propaganda machine to push an agenda. Well, and they, they would probably still fund fake articles and propaganda articles and you can’t get around that. But you would always have the competing decentralized people on the ground giving you other information so that you can, that this decentralized free market of ideas will always counteract the propaganda and they can’t have complete domination like they had before. It’s that, that free flowing of ideas that’ll keep the wars from happening. Yeah, no question. I, I just have been thinking in my head about what you said about they will still fund propaganda.

So I’m thinking to myself we’ll have journalists on our, on our platform that are pushing out stuff so somebody actually has to call them them and say we would like to give you money to push this agenda. I mean, or they’re, yeah, they’re, they have a net just like USAID they’d have, they’d fund 500 journalists that would all be publishing articles to your thing and you didn’t know it, but you would also have 4,000 other ones who aren’t funded by them, who would be giving them conflicting reports and that’s where, where the, the truth would come out.

I’m just sitting here wondering how the hell do we catch that. Well, I don’t think you can. That is something that we can’t. What we can do is make sure that there isn’t AI bots creating propaganda to the point where you’re being flooded with it. That’s what we are going to have to combat. Okay. I mean, I’m thinking to myself, maybe everybody that signs up to be a news reporter gets a phone call. So the AI bot has to actually answer the phone or have a conversation before they get activated. Something like that. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, some way of validating that this is an accurate person.

Well, and yeah, and you are even taken a far. You have Alex Newman, who is working with the journalists to teach them about ethics so that there’s always this, whatever you do, we want truth. You know, everybody’s going to have a different truth than their own biases and whatever. But damn it, you, if you’re going to be a journalist, you got to at least do your best to prevent. Bring the truth. Yeah. No question about it. Yeah. Alex, he was out of town and I, I reached out to him the other day because he wants, I want to start those, those training classes he wants to do.

So I asked him to write me a, you know, some kind of letter we could send out to all the journalists to say, here’s the date we’re doing this, and here’s the topics of discussion for those of you who want to join. So I’m looking forward to it. I, I, I looking forward to seeing how we feel. Yeah, yeah. Carving new paths. So teaching ethics, making sure they’re real people. And, and then somehow I don’t know if you can get past the USAID kind of financial structure. I don’t know how that’s going to happen. That I think that’s going to be an ongoing battle, but I think you get around it by just having thousands of people who aren’t on that kind of payroll.

Yeah, I mean, we have to sit down and talk about this because I’m. Now you got me in my head going, okay, so how, how do we stop this? I never thought about something like that where you could actually pay people on the side to be able to push propaganda, but I guess that’s what they’re going to do. Yeah. So. Well, and what they’re doing now to people like me is I get fed. Hey, you want to talk to this person? They’re, you know, hey, this guy’s great. And, and so there’s all these agents feeding us people of legit sources who aren’t legit, you know, and so it’s really hard.

And so the next thing you know, you’re propagating disinformation without knowing it. And then you and I can’t vet every single thing someone else says. And so that’s part of the propaganda. But the local news, having thousands of people locally will help counteract that more than anything else. I agree. I definitely agree. Yeah. So this, it, I, I, Sarah, I see. No, no, no, I get it. I mean, I’m just thinking to myself, you’re trying to. I, I like to solve problems right away. And I’m listening to. If this conversation went in a direction I never even thought of.

My people are getting bought and paid for now all of a sudden to do this. So I, I would assume you’re going to find some people that are going to take money, but we have to figure out how to weed those people out. I wouldn’t even know how to do that other than what you said. If you have so many people counteracting them. That’s right. And then it’d be like, okay, what is the trending information? But sometimes the lone wolf is the one who’s right. But you just need to have. It’s the sheer volume of the decentralized news coming out that helps to create the narrative and the communication across the world.

I don’t want to kill my neighbor kind of stuff. I don’t want to bomb my neighbor. And your neighbor suddenly becomes the Middle east or becomes China or becomes, you know, we were going to be forced to deal with this stuff. Yeah. Nobody wants wars anymore. So, I mean, everybody’s kind of over it. They never seem to end. And, you know, not getting into the Middle east or all that stuff, but it just seems like there’s always conflicts, there’s always problems, and, and it’s always related to government who’s perpetuating these things, and the people are just tired of it.

So I, I mean, I, I don’t know about. Well, I do know about you. You don’t want to have a war. We don’t want to have a war. Nobody does. And like you said, the world’s getting smaller through technology. So now, you know, I’m talking to people that live in Australia. I talk to people that live in England. I talk to people that live in Canada. I just got a new journalist out of Greece this morning. Okay, so. And then, you know, you have a team of people in Greece, and you don’t want Greece to get bombed.

Not at all. Not at all. Your suppliers in China. I want my suppliers to get bombed. They’re my best source for this thing that I can’t get anywhere else. I mean, that’s what we’re dealing with right now. Yeah. Well, hopefully what we’re doing through freedom of information as we Expand this across the globe is going to actually stop all this nonsense. It’s actually inspiring. I think. I think we can see the light of the end of the tunnel of where peace comes from. Well, yeah. Well, what happens is, is the governments don’t have any way to push propaganda, okay? Because they need the people behind them in order to do it.

But if the people are not behind them, you know, then they. They can’t get done what they need to get done. So eliminating mass media and have it completely decentralized is really the answer to that. Wow. I mean, you’re thinking through this further than I am. Sarah, I’m impressed. My job. I guess so. I mean, you’re. Now once I get a problem in my head, I gotta fix it, you know. So all of a sudden you threw another problem in there. I thought I had everything ironed out. Well, I don’t think, you know what the usaid, that kind of structure, I don’t think you’re ever going to get around that.

I think it’s just through the. That’s what the founders of the country came up with, with needing to do the balance of our. The different, you know, branches of the government, because they knew that there were going to be certain power struggles that we just can’t get around. And so the only way to deal with that is balance. And I think this is the same thing. We aren’t going to be able to get around that other than creating a balanced structure. Yeah, well. Or overwhelm the structure with. With decentralized people. Well, that’s. That’s gonna happen no matter what.

I mean, because who’s hiring? What I’m saying is I’m the only person bringing people on. There’s nobody else that’s bringing on, you know, thousands of news reporters. So, you know, it’ll be one central location for where free speech could prevail. But you’re going to have all kinds of content coming in. And so they’re dedicated to the mission long term. Like, this is not. This is it, guys. This is where it’s going. Well, that’s the ride, right? I mean, how do we know? Well, this is the. The Internet is where everybody’s going to be. We’re just creating a centralized place for distribution of information.

But this is where it’s headed anyway. That’s right. It’s an. It’s inevitable. Okay. Unless the Internet gets cut off, this is where it’s all going. So network TV is a thing of the past. All the cable news, you know, so I always wondered you know, like you have Newsmax. Well, what’s the difference other than the name? What’s the difference between Newsmax and Fox? They’re both on cable, right? Okay. They both have the same business model. Correct. So if Fox doesn’t survive, does Newsmax see? I don’t think so. I think that they, it’s the people that grew up, up in, not in this era.

And, and we’re in the, we’re part of that that can’t think about different business models. The young people are, grew up in this. They don’t even watch cable news. They don’t do anything but this. And you know, I was just talking to my daughter, she goes, said mom, our generation is just different. We’re seeing all this stuff. We’re questioning things. We don’t look at media like you guys do. We are exposed to things that, I mean they are so much wiser than we are because they’re exposed to things at such a young age that we haven’t been exposed to until we were older.

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She has friends who are still in college who are getting all. She has one in particular who is bragging about getting all A’s because all she’s doing is using chap. GPT GPT. And I’m like, God, her degree is actually pretty hard. How do you get. She’s getting a chemical. Actually got an engineering degree. How do you even learn by just doing that? You’re not going to learn anything. How do. And a lot of these tests are online. These schools need to completely revamp. Otherwise these students are going to come out not knowing anything. Well, that’s a problem.

Okay, I know it is. No, I got another. I know this isn’t a problem for you to solve, but. But that’s a big deal. I think it’s a really big deal. I mean, but you know, they’re using artificial intelligence to solve the problems versus themselves. Well, they don’t understand it now. Well, they don’t have to understand it. Right. It’s kind of like remember when. Of course. I don’t think you do, but I remember there was no calculators. And then the first calculator came out. Right. Calculator. You’re not that old. Where there was a calculator, I used to have to use the phones where you did this.

So. No, I’m not that old, so. But the calculator came out and you know, it was an easy. But they would let you use it at school. No, I never could use that. I got my degree, which is practically a math degree. I’ve got computer science and we were still part of the fair. My school, it was part of the mathematics program a decade before. Only a decade before. So computer science was a lot of mathematics, you know, mathematics back then. And we could not use a calculator. No, you could not use a calculator. Couldn’t bring it into school.

Just trying to think of the, I don’t remember the Casio or whatever those little things were. They had the blue light in there and you turned them on and you know they were, they, they changed throughout. But you know that was like a supercomputer and it would have, it would have made it a lot easier on the test but you had to do it yourself. So are you telling me they are allowed to use Chat GBT or do you do online stuff? And I think some of these schools don’t get it. You know the computer science.

I was looking at the computer science schools get it. They do not let their kids use ChatGPT or they, they’ve figured this out because they under. They know what AI is. They know that. So those students for the better schools are learning but all these other degrees don’t have it figured out yet. They don’t understand and so they’re behind. And so there’s going to be this pocket here where students are coming out of schools knowing almost nothing other than to use ChatGPT. Yeah, I believe you’re correct. I mean I use it myself for different things. Yeah, I mean and it works amazing.

And you know, like even stuff where I need a legal document for something somebody told me use chat, I go, it does that too. So I said I need a legal document for let’s whatever. Let’s say it’s for the content creators where they’re solely responsible for their content. I put in the things and it spit out a leg. I’m like, this is amazing. But the problem with it, you know, like if it’s a cutting, if it’s a simple thing where it’s like standard business stuff, things that have already been really flushed out there, it’s great. And especially with a lot of what the students are learning isn’t the cutting edge stuff.

So it’s great. But the stuff that’s at the edge of change, you know, like. Or the edge of our knowledge, like Renette Zenum and I were talking about the geoengineering watch and that they have a lot of lawsuit going on in the geoengineering world. They’re trying to use Chat GPT and they couldn’t because the information and everything, it’s too, it’s too cutting edge. No, there hasn’t been a decade of legal activity in this area. They’re the first, you know what I mean? Yeah. Chat GPT just isn’t good at it. Right. Well, it’s a great tool to use, but it needs to be used in the proper areas.

Right. I mean, so everybody always tell. Have been telling me forever that AI is going to replace the news reporters. And I keep saying, no, I can’t replace a news reporter. They could use it. I use it. I mean, it does a great job for what you need to use it for, but under no circumstances will replace news reporting. You need boots on the ground. You need real people looking at something, you know where it could do. And this is why you got to get rid of the, the bots, is it? You could have three paid propaganda people creating the articles.

They would create like 500 bots taking those three articles, changing it all up, up, and making it look like 500 articles that are a little different from 500 people off of three source articles. That’s where the AI bots could come in. And that would be a disaster. Yes. Yeah, I got to make sure we can figure out a way to find out. I mean, currently, I don’t really believe we have any bots. I mean, we have real people that are submitting articles. Yeah, but as you become bigger and bigger, you know, people are going to go, hey, we could use this.

So we could have bots set up accounts and then start submitting stuff. And how do you, how do you prevent that? I think it’s the phone call. I think it’s a validation that it’s a real person. Yeah, I agree. Everybody has to put in their telephone number, their address, everything. We get all that information so we know who it is. And you know, I just. How do they do it on YouTube? I guess with YouTube you can’t have your own show. They don’t care. I have multiple fake accounts under my. I can’t get my account on YouTube.

Right. They canceled my account. They canceled my backup vanilla account where I had nothing there that was, you know, so there’s. There’s thousands of people that are more controversial than I ever was, but. And then especially more controversial than my little vanilla channel that they got rid of. But there’s multiple fake Sarah Westell accounts and I can’t get those taken off. Isn’t that crazy? So that’s okay to do, but you can’t do that. And they could put in whatever they want on their own. That’s my stuff stuff. Fake accounts of me using my own Stuff is okay, but me doing it isn’t.

Wow. And there you go. Right. So they really don’t care about that. They just want to make sure you, the real person, doesn’t get to use it. But your stuff could still be broadcast there. There’s multiple channels. Fake channels of me. Yeah. It’s not like it’s getting a lot of attention, but still, because they’re not, you know, people know they’re fake. I don’t know, but they’re up there. It makes me look bad. People look at me. Oh, you got like four followers. I don’t know how many, but. Yeah. And I can’t even talk to them. I get it.

I get it. Wow. And nobody will ever take those accounts down, ever. Oh, I. Strange. I. I can’t get to anybody to take them down. Yeah, no, and you never will. Interesting. Yeah. Wow. So you just shed some light on something. Maybe. I have to call 800 news reporters to find out who’s real, who’s not real. Help. I. I think that’s going to have to happen. I think there has to be a vetting process regardless, because otherwise the AI bots will take over. And that’s the important thing, is to get rid of those bots. You know, Elon Musk took over Twitter, and one of his commitments was to get rid of the bots, but they are nowhere near getting one rid of the bots.

And he would have the ability to be able to do that. But they’re not. Yeah, they haven’t. Maybe because more keep coming in. Who knows? But, I mean, you know, just something that. What they were doing with Doge and what they were uncovering and how they were running programs. Yeah, Yeah. I would assume he’d be able to do this with bots. I guess. I. I don’t know the difference between, you know, how you could tell if a bot filled something out versus if it was a real person. See, that’s the problem is that because they’re working with the general public, they can’t do it.

But because you’re working with people who are signing up to be journalists. I mean, you. You’re going to have people everywhere, but you could still validate it, because you’re not going to have 8 billion people. You’re not going to have every person on the planet doing it. You’re going to have actual journalists. No, it’ll be, you know, there’s. Not everybody reports news. They just read news. Right. So it’s. So it’s going to be. Yeah, it’s much different. You know, it’s much different. You know, like YouTube, not everybody has a show, but people watch shows. There’s more people watching than there are producers.

So in our case, it’s the same thing. Whereas on X or on Facebook, everybody could have their own Facebook page. Matter of fact, you have to have it in order to get on there to start seeing stuff. So it’s different with us. So we’ll, we’ll be fine there. But yeah, I think that maybe going through all this stuff and having conversations with people is always good. I mean, to me, I think when you talk to people, it becomes real. And so maybe you’ll get more interaction, more better content coming out of people once they understand. You know, the conversation I had with, with the person in San Francisco yesterday was, you know, explaining to her how this works and, you know, what she needs to do because you get out of it what you put into it.

No different on rumble or YouTube. You know, if you’re producing one video a month, you’re going to make less than if you produced one video a day. Right. And so on and so forth. And it’s the same with us. So it’s, it’s really making them understand and how they could be part of something. So I think that maybe you’re right. Maybe we need to, we need to have, take more of an active role in conversation, in conversations with these people. We, you know, I’m sure a bot could create an account, but they have to have a LinkedIn page and other social media sites.

But I’m sure they probably can create those too, can’t they? So we click those links to go to see these people. I was thinking that’s going to be enough due diligence now. Right now, for the most part, everybody that’s doing this is either in school or you’ll see it’ll, you know, journalism. And, you know, you go to their LinkedIn page. I mean, the last one, this guy works for a news organization locally somewhere. So they’re all part of the news. But when you become big, then you’re going to start getting those bots that come in. Well, there was a news organization that was coming out of the east that was reporting on Ukraine and activities and created 300 websites using AI and using reports coming out of the east on the Ukraine war.

They were populating over 300 websites, or about 300 with articles based on source articles, you know, because they wanted the, the, the information coming from the eastern block instead of the western block dominating the airways. And so what they are the Media. And so what they did is they created like hundreds of websites, duplicated all, changed them a little so they’re all unique articles, and then published it all over these websites. And they were pumping out information coming from what’s the east instead of the west on what was actually going on during the war. The war.

And then they were getting millions and millions of views throughout the Western world. World. Wow. Yeah. So this could be done. Wow, you just made it. So now I have to call 800 people today, so. Well, but that’s why I was saying that the tech platform is. Is it. Is the big deal. Yeah. Well, look, and, and I agree. We, you know, we need to have really controls in this thing. So where we understand these people are actually real people, which you can’t stop is if somebody takes a bribe to write a story. You can’t stop that.

You can’t sense. No, no. And I think the only way. Yeah, you can stop all the tech stuff, I think, but for the most, we’re gonna keep getting ahead of it. But the other one, I think you just overwhelm them with real people reporting differently. You know, you’re right. And you know, if somebody fills out the application and you know it’s a bot, obviously they’re not going to answer the phone. Right. Unless they do AI agents everywhere and then create fake people. But I don’t think. Think they’re there yet. But that could. So that would be another stumbling block.

Yeah. I’m sorry. Maybe they’ll figure that one out. Yeah, but just, but just, but just, you know, having a conversation. The people that are on there now are. You could see they’re all students or people that are in media. They’re, I think, I think just having the conversation and realizing they’re real people and making kind of impromptu. You’ll be able to get past all that. That pretty easily. Cool. I’m gonna. This would be good. This is, this. I do think this is. I thinking about it a lot. I think this is how you bring peace and this is how you.

I’m getting. Let’s circle back to it. I, I really think decentralized information is the answer to peace and prosperity for the world. It’s one of them. I mean, there’s other things too, but this is a big cornerstone of it. Well, having the ability for governments to be. To take away the propaganda machine because they’re being, you know, remember, people don’t consume information on network television here in the United States like they used to, but it’s the same in Ukraine. And it’s the same in, in, you know, China. And it’s the same all across the globe. In England, they’re all getting their news on in the Internet.

Okay. This is where it’s all going. So it doesn’t matter. So all those network TV stations which were the dominant force are all collapsing and this is what’s going to replace it. So I, I do agree with you. I think that this is, I think it’s going to completely change the way countries are doing things because they don’t have the ability to get the people behind them and they have to figure out a new way, the bot way or whatever the hell they’re going to do or buy journals because they’re going to do it. But they’re going to be.

Maybe they’re. The people can force these people to be authentic. You know, you’re gonna always gonna have. What did. What. What was the. One of our founders said that you can. You. The people who rise to these positions are always going to be cheats and they’re always. There’s a certain type of person. Right. And so it takes the people, the decentralized people to force these in. In the rule of law and the decentralization to force them to do what’s right. Exactly. So the good news is this, this will all happen. I actually, I see where you’re going with this, and I think this is actually going to happen.

So you’re going to usher in world peace, Sarah? Well, you are this that you knew that everyone is getting involved. I mean, I honestly, I think it is. I’m excited. It’s like, wow, I can see the light. And this is, this is where it’s going. We have a lot of obstacles along the way, but it is where it’s going. And I think this, the fact that only 19% of Republicans, people who normally support the wars, said, no, I don’t want war. I’m surprised it’s 19. I would, I would think it’s everybody that doesn’t want a war.

I mean, I’m not talking politicians, the people. Yeah, okay. Are you talking 19. It’s only 19% that approve of what the, you know, getting in with all the propaganda that they did, trying to get people sold on the idea. Only 19% of the people were sold on it. I buy that. Okay, so a very small percentage, basically 81% of the people said, no, leave them alone. You know, because of the, because of the independent media saying, we don’t want this. This is. Yeah, well, I would have to agree with That I, I certainly don’t want any more wars.

This is, it never ends up good. It’s always, it’s always forever. Right. How long were we in Afghanistan here? We were going to go over there. How long? It just never ended. So what did end? The way we ended it was absolutely dismal. Well, that was awful. Yeah. Well, you’re talking about Joe Biden giving away all of our stuff to the enemy, giving it away to all of our stuff so that they could do more terrorist activity and more biases us and then we had to buy more to replenish it. And it was just one big racket.

And then there was slaughter on the streets in Afghanistan because we didn’t, we didn’t protect our sources and the people in our allies, you know, the allies on the street who are helping us out. It’s ridiculous. Yeah. We need to stay out of there. Let those people do whatever they’re going to do. You can’t stop them. You know, they’re always going to do it, stop everything. This is how you stop it. You get people access to free information. Well, I don’t know about in Afghanistan, but. Well, they have to have access, too. Yeah. All right. If they’re.

Shut up. I get it. I, I agree with you. I think that this is definitely the path to where, you know, it could end all this stuff that’s been going on. So it’s just, it’s getting rid of the political propaganda machine that these governments have been using and allowing free speech throughout the globe where people have access to different information is. Local news reporting is a game changer. So I agree with you. You know, we’ve got, you know, I, I’ve been telling you this, but the, the follow button your stuff with. I think his name is Matthew.

Right. It looks like they may be close to figuring all that stuff out. On the tech side, I, I don’t know if you. Are you part of the emails any. I am. I’m getting them. I’m just glad it’s going forward. So everybody, we’re having this internal conversation. So basically, let people understand. I, I got Sam hooked up with somebody who can automate videos from me and my colleagues to get up on YourNews.com so that we could just get more people getting our information up there. And that’s in process and it’s almost done. Or it is done and it probably is.

I, I think they actually figured it out. I, I haven’t talked to the Kevin to find out exactly, but I think it’s pretty much There, because I saw the content that came in. It was just missing a thumbnail and that’s easy to do. I saw the email. It says, yeah, we’ll take care of that. So the, the second piece is we have that follow button coming where people will be able to follow you on our side. She said it’ll be by the end of month, so within the next week. Which means as you push people to your content and they start following you, it’ll, it’ll give you a better revenue stream because the bigger your audience grows with followers, the more people, when you submit or when it comes in, more people are going to be alerted and then, you know, the more revenue gets generated.

And then I’m doing the can. Rumble will like that, but. Well, Rumble would love it because I just want people to get my information well and obviously I want to make a living. But it’s, you know, getting more people to see what it is that we’re bringing broader distribution. That’s what I want, want is more people to see. Because when, when you’re not allowed on places, the mainstream platforms or you’re censored on the mainstream platforms. And that’s what so many of the people, you know, because that was the mainstream media coming in and, and enforcing through big Pharma and through the lobbyists forcing these big platforms to get rid of people like me so that they could maintain their monopoly.

And they’re trying to do that on these mainstream platforms. And so what we need is more access to independent on the ground boots on the ground people like we’re talking about, so that people can get truthful information uncensored, unfiltered, without the same monopoly propagandists coming in and controlling the mainstream platforms. That’s what we saw, that’s what we’re fighting up against. And they’re not winning because more people are realizing it and going to other sources. But that’s why I love this platform so much, is because it goes around that, that whole monopoly structure that they’re screwing with us with.

No question about it. Sarah, though, this, ultimately, at the end of the day, this will become the next mainstream media. So what we have to do is make sure that it’s, it’s real people reporting real news without fake propaganda. And I think the public will be smart enough to realize what’s BS and what’s not bs and certainly if content’s coming in, that’s opinion in nature, it’s going in opinion, so it doesn’t really matter anyway. But we, we will definitely, we will Definitely shake the tree here because I, I plan on talking now. I want to call every one of these journalists just to have a conversation with them to see who’s real and who’s not real.

But I’m sure they all are. It’s just I. You got my head to thinking, you know, So I, I think that a lot of the stuff that we’re doing, Sarah, with your help and everything we’re doing, is going to make this the next mainstream media. We currently have a little over 800 news reporters, and that’s a big stretch from the last time you and I talked because I think it was in the sixes or seven or something like that. So this will get up there much larger. I could easily get it to 4 or 5,000 by the end of the year, which puts us as a big player.

But, you know, again, this is, you know, why we’re doing this equity crowdfund. Because nobody wants me to call up BlackRock and Vanguard and raise capital or any institutional players. So this is why we do the. The equity crowdfund. So for those of you that are interested in becoming a news reporter and becoming a monetized news reporter, you would go to your news and scroll down to the bottom of the page and click and become a citizen journalist. We also have an equity crowdfund. For those of you interested in buying stock in this, there’s a place where you could click it, you could read about what we’re doing.

If you want to participate, you can do it for as little as $200. And everywhere in between, the good news is, is there’s a void that needs to be filled here. There’s literally hundreds of thousands of news reporters out of work. Nobody’s picking them up. We’re the only players. By the time we migrate those people over to our platform, we’re the YouTube of our industry. We got to get everybody, all of you that are freelance journalists at the. You don’t have a home. We need to get you signed up for this. We need to get this moving and we need people to fund it too.

So we need investment and we’re doing a big crown. Where can they fund it? Where can they go? It’s. It’s on your news, at the bottom of the page, of the front page or any page. It says invest. If you click it, it’ll take you to our issuance Express page, which is owned by North Capital Partners. So it’s a brokerage firm. We’re doing this through. It’s not a donation. You’re actually buying stock. This is a security. We have plans to go public in the next two years. And you’re buying pre IPO shares. Kind of like, you know what Facebook was selling to the institutional players, and then you got into it when they went public.

But there were people that bought it prior to that. We’re selling it to, not to the institutional players. We’re selling this to we the people. So this movement is funded by us. It’s not going to be funded by institutions. And the reason is. The reason we’re in the mess we’re in today is because there’s six players that control the legacy media. It’s all institutional ownership. And if I were to sell the institutions, you’re making the same mistake that was made in the past. So we want this to be a news organization that is controlled by the people, people.

And it’s real news reporting from real people. So that’s why we’re doing it this way. YourNews.com is where they can find. Okay. Thank you so much, Sam. I really. These are fun conversations before we really got into some cool stuff. Thanks, Sarah. Appreciate being here. Good to see you, Sam.
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