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Summary

➡ Shasta County, California is leading the way in election transparency and reform by using paper ballots and voter IDs. The county’s Registrar of Voters, Clint Curtis, and his team have opened their doors to the public to showcase their process. They use a tabulator to count votes, but everything is viewed before and after to ensure accuracy and transparency. The goal is to inspire other counties to adopt similar practices for fair and transparent elections.
➡ The text discusses the process of handling and verifying mail-in and in-person votes. It explains that signatures are checked and votes are sorted into precincts before being counted. The text also mentions a system that allows citizens to hand count results and compare them to machine counts. Lastly, it emphasizes the importance of transparency and legality in the voting process, and the role of the Register of Voters in making decisions about these processes.
➡ Kim Yater, host of the ‘Take Your Power Back’ show, led a gathering in Shasta County, California, to promote election reform and transparency. The event featured several governor candidates and election reform expert Dr. Douglas G. Frank. They discussed the importance of restoring trust in elections, fighting corruption, and ensuring every vote is counted fairly. The group praised Shasta County’s efforts in leading the charge for election reform and transparency.
➡ The text discusses the importance of election integrity and local control over elections. Various governor candidates express their commitment to promoting transparency and fairness in elections, emphasizing that this issue transcends party lines. They praise the efforts of those working to secure elections and encourage everyone to hold their local officials accountable. The candidates also highlight the need for reform and the importance of every vote being counted accurately.
➡ Several candidates for governor and other positions spoke at an event about the importance of election reform and ensuring every vote counts. They emphasized the need for safety measures, transparency, and voter involvement to improve the current system. They also encouraged people to vote early and to stay involved in the process to ensure their voices are heard.
➡ A community event is being held to support the “Take Our California Back” movement, which aims to reform elections, demand transparent voting, and reclaim constitutional freedoms. The event includes a governor forum and debate, where attendees can ask questions to the candidates. The event also supports Tina Peters, a political prisoner who stood up for election transparency. The gathering will take place at Faith Community Church, with doors opening at 5:30pm.
➡ The text discusses a county’s election process, highlighting the importance of transparency and accuracy. The process involves counting ballots manually and using machines, with the entire process recorded on camera. Despite the machines’ potential for error or manipulation, the manual count allows for verification. The system is cost-effective and allows citizens to review the process and even conduct their own recounts if desired.
➡ The text discusses the importance of secure and accurate vote counting during elections. It highlights potential issues such as hacking and machine errors, and suggests that the best way to ensure accuracy is to count votes after polls close on election day. However, due to lack of funding, this is not always possible, leading to potential vulnerabilities. The text emphasizes the need for more funding to improve the security and integrity of the voting process.
➡ The discussion revolves around the use of voting machines versus hand counting in elections. The machines are used to speed up the process, but there are concerns about their potential to be connected to the internet and manipulated. There’s also a debate about the accuracy of hand counting versus machine counting. The cost of more machines is discussed, with the suggestion that hand counting could be cheaper. However, in California, hand counting is not allowed, and there’s a push for more transparency in the voting process.
➡ The text discusses the complexities of vote counting and potential vulnerabilities in the system. It highlights the importance of counting all votes on election day to prevent manipulation. The text also mentions the possibility of machines communicating externally, which could be a security risk. It suggests that citizens should have the ability to hand count votes for transparency and accuracy.
➡ There’s a strong movement against voting machines in the U.S., with some advocating for their removal. Amidst this, there are concerns about the transparency and security of elections, with some instances of vote counts not matching the number of voters. This has led to confusion and questions about the integrity of the voting process. Despite these issues, some progress has been made towards improving election transparency and security.
➡ The discussion revolves around concerns of election integrity, with allegations of ballot stuffing and discrepancies in the number of votes. The speaker, Rob Curtis, has reported these issues to the Department of Justice instead of state authorities, which has sparked debate. Despite criticism, Curtis maintains his focus on securing future elections rather than prosecuting past offenders.
➡ The text discusses concerns about election integrity, including issues like ballot stuffing, fake ballots, and the disenfranchisement of voters. It suggests that the current system enables these problems and argues for a return to local control of elections. The text also mentions the theft of mail-in ballots and the need for secure elections. It ends with a call for honesty and fairness in elections, regardless of political affiliation.
➡ The speaker discusses the lack of political will to reform elections in the U.S., regardless of party affiliation. They also mention the potential complications of having a special election and a general election at the same time. The speaker suggests that cost-saving measures, such as in-house printing, could be implemented. The conversation ends with preparations for a press conference.

Transcript

Wasn’t the sun in on that? I have no idea. Good morning. Good morning. Good county, California. Shacha is setting the stage for what is possible in California for election transparency and election reform. Excellent. Here we go. Let me push this this way. Good morning, everybody. Welcome. We are an Shasta, and I am so excited to be here with you. All right, now, let me get this all set up to go. Hang on one second. We’re cat. We’re catching all the pieces together. All right, so I’m going to enter back in. So we are here in Shasta getting ready for a very special event.

Clint Curtis, the ROV of Shasta, and his teams have opened up the doors for all of us, which the doors are open because they’re transparent. Have opened up the doors for all of us to be part of a very special day of seeing what’s possible. These are the guys that have gone to paper ballot, voter id, paper pallet ballot. They are awesome. So paper ballot, paper ballot, paper ballot. President Trump is saying one day voting paper ballot. Right. That’s the way to do it. So there’s a process to stay within the law of California, and we’ll talk through that today.

But let’s go inside. Let’s get a little sense of what’s happening. And little old Shasta, the tip of the spear. Stand by. All right, let’s get our walk through in. Well, thank you so much. All right, we are live. Good morning, Leslie. We have a big day ahead of us. Are you excited? It’s gonna be fun. Come on. Couple of our candidates. Hello, gentlemen. David Kollenberg, want to say hello for a quick second? Good morning. Good morning. Are you ready to see what’s possible in the state of California? I’m always ready. We were hoping David would bring his tractor.

I would. I would have if I had gotten home sooner. And, you know, I had animals to fish. You’re all good. You’re all good. It’s good to see, and I’m so glad that you’re here. It’s time to take California back. Yes. Come on. County to county. All right, Clint Curtis, good morning. We are ready to go. You’re live right now. Why don’t you say hello for a second to this is America taking a look at what Shasta county is doing. So this is Clint Curtis, the registrar voter clerk here that has set the precedence for what’s possible.

So before we begin, is there anything you want our listeners and viewers to know? No. Clint, after you see this, if you like it, push it out. Tell everybody that this is what we need to go to. If we can do that before midterms, you may see a red California. It’ll be amazing, huh? So good. Thank you. Clint Curtis. And we’re ready to start whenever you are. Grab your folks. All right, everybody, let’s gather together. We’re going to get started. Hi, Patty. Gonna come on in? Guess I had Lewis Herms. You want to say hello to everybody? Howdy.

Howdy. We are live. You ready to take our California back? Oh, we’re on the way. We are on the way. Come on. I was conceived here in Jessica county, but. But I was raised in Sonoma County. Good morning. I like the bow tie. Good morning, guys. Good morning. Good morning. Say good morning to our audience this morning. Nice to meet you. Cool. And I’m Kim. So good to meet you. I told him who you were. So good. Let me give you my card. No, it’s good. She’s doing an amazing job. We love you. Less amazing. Stephanie.

Hi. Steph. Hello. Welcome. We’re so glad you guys are. We’re so excited to be here. Huh? Here we go. We got press. Hi. I don’t think I got to meet you. I’m Kim. Hi, I’m Jeff Carr. Jeff Carr. Great to meet you. Kim Yader. Welcome. This is quite a very special day. I’m so excited. Walkthrough. Wow. Look at this. Oh, my gosh, you guys. This is what’s possible. So in the state of California, we have to have some type of machine to count the votes. So you’re going to see the process of using a tabulator, but everything is viewed before and after.

So Clint’s going to guide us through that. Right? Let’s grab that. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Shasta is amazing. We love Shasta. Yes. Come on. You guys are leading the charge for what’s possible in this state. No, this is my arm. Hi, Carol. How are you doing? Good, good. I’m ready to declare my candidacy. Five more minutes. We have a. Another one. Fantastic. Patty, it’s so good to meet you. This is the place to be. I love it. He’s next. I mean, he’s already in the works. I didn’t bring another camera. What I’m gonna do is take it on right angles.

Does that make somebody. Doug, you want to take a moment? Take a moment with us. So we are live. Oh, yes. There we go. Clerk Curtis is asking us to come to order. Convene. You ready to go? He sure does. Everybody, come on in. Come on in. All right, We’re. We’re all moving into the next room. Room. I think we should get footage of you, Kim, leaving us the piper. Come on, come on. Which way are we facing? Fair enough. Is this the main camera? I’ll just be like this. Yes, it is definitely one of the.

The main camera is. There we go. Are you sure? Any citizen can come in and actually watch everything that’s going on. The cameras show exactly what’s going on over there. Plus, you know, you’re only going to be away anyway if you want to be closer. The observation area is also that stool area right there where you can sit right behind the person doing with the information. Any citizen can sit in those stools? Yes, and it’s right behind them. So as they’re doing it, you know, I mean, don’t like, dip their pigtails on the ink thing or anything, but, you know, just behave yourself.

You sit there, everything is good. Is that a new thing? Because I was here observing on election night and no one was allowed back there without an escort. No, they’re allowed back there for the observers. There was no one sitting, and I don’t even believe they didn’t sit back there, but so were they. Were those stools there on election night? Yes, we had, like, four people using for the whole night. Because they’re not nearly as comfortable as these. Correct. But so they sit there, they can watch everything. So we fetch the stuff they used to try and keep the observers away.

A lot of counties do that. They put them behind walls and glass and, you know, this was a fence with spikes on it. But if you’re behind glass, it’s the same with a spiked wall, too. So you’re not going to see anything, you’re not going to hear anything. That’s the opposite of what we need to do. We need to embrace the public and let them watch what’s going on, because then they understand that it’s valid because they can see it. If you hide the ball, they’ll assume the worst. Even if you’re not doing anything wrong, they’ll assume the worst.

So we have all of these. These will all be set up. Right now you’re just seeing the video of what actually was one of the ones we did. And what happens is you count your batches, which we’ll get into out there. You go to the second stage, and then you go to the third stage. So that just shows what’s going on and how you would see it live if using all of the systems. So come on around. We’ll go to the actual room. There. What is Chain of custody. Chain of custody is making sure that the ballot is always blocked, steel and observable.

If you looked in the room, at the ones on the wall, you could see all of our ballots from four different camera angles, 24 hours a day. So no one can sneak in and do anything. Before I got here, they actually had a wall with blue bins they put the ballots in. They didn’t see one. They just stuck in a room and then not a good chain of custody. And that allows you to stuff balance. So that’s something you don’t want to do. The rv of course, is the worst possible person to actually be able to do everything.

So you’ve got to make sure that you keep an eye on him and that you know, because he has access to everything, including me. We’ll talk about it later. So everything happens here. This goes through, it sorts the machines, it captures the signatures, verify free mail address. Then they go in these boxes and they’re all sealed up with these actual physical seals, these guys, so that they cannot be bothered on these. We use four of them and we write them down, we log everything that way nothing can move before it doesn’t. If a single ballot has to go into this, it has to be logged, it has to be recorded, everything has to be tight and all of our stuff is available to the public.

We’re not going to fight them for anything. We want them to know once the signatures are approved, they go back into those, those are the precinct ballots and then they stay in those. Now if you go to a one day voting, all this goes away by the way, because then you don’t need to do signature verification, you don’t need to store it, you don’t need to do it. It all comes in at one time. Much better system. We’ll see what happens, right? Depends on how the executive order goes. Yes, sir. Are you processing mail in ballots and in person voting ballots in the same bins? No, the mail ends go here.

Okay. The in person never go on bins. Okay. Because they’re already validated. Okay. The whole purpose of these bins is to go through the stages of your validation. So here you’re just throwing them in precincts, you don’t know if they’re valid yet. After their signature verified, that’s when you take them out and you put them where they need to go and then that’s over there. What percentage of the votes were mail? In 85 some counties of California it’s 90%. Yeah. Wow. And some of our precincts, we have mail Only precincts, because the precincts have such a small number of voters that we do them all by mail.

So because there’s really no way to put a precinct, you know, we have six voters and four of them for one house. I guess that could be the precinct. You guys have to go over there. But that’s the way it’s done. So go through all that, and then when it’s all said and done, then the envelope gets separated from the ballot. That’s when they go into stacks. And our procedures, you go through and you put them in stacks of 50 and you mark them what precinct they’re in and you give them identifying numbers. So when they’re on camera, you can actually match that total to what the machine said.

Because most people want to go to hand count, but we’re not there. So what this allows to do is, allows the citizens to hand count the results and compare them to the machines. So Mark Cook’s working on a procedure right now to allow that to happen. We worked out the logistics, so it will work. Excellent. But you’ll do it off the video, you won’t do it off the paper. I think you need to distinguish between tallying votes and counting ballots. Right. Right here you’re not. You’re not saying, you know, Trump had a vote, Biden had a vote.

You’re not saying anything like that. Right. At this point, you’re just putting them into stacks of 50 and you’re verifying the signatures are good here. And once they’re verified, then they go into stacks over there. But nobody’s counted any vote that counts anything. It’s only ballots at the this point. Correct. Okay, good. Correct. And they’re still in envelopes at that point. So this is. Oh, you haven’t even taken them out of the envelopes yet? No, everything stays in envelope. Ah, then they go to those tables there, and that’s where there’s. They’re actually inbuilts are open and they’re stacked into stacks of 50 by looking at them, making sure that there’s no identifying marks, because that can’t go on camera.

So if they sign their name, that goes over to adjudication, which are people who come in and they actually will watch it happen. So they know that, you know, nothing nefarious is going on. So we try to get people from multiple parties and they don’t get paid anything. So, you know, it has to be good people who actually want to help. And then they. And you helped. Right. I was here for adjudication. But what was Interesting is that around midnight, when I had not been asked to come back to the adjudication station, you and I had a conversation with one of your employees.

And she, the paid employee, said, oh, we just went ahead and adjudicated without any public observers. Right. So there were public observers here, but they were never asked to actually stand behind the adjudication process. And evidently that’s not legally required that an outside observer be here. It’s not, but we were. That was a nice invitation, but we sat in the observation room for the entire evening, and we were never asked to come back to do any observing of the adjudication the way they used to do it. Observers didn’t matter. They didn’t want to share anything. They were just used to doing it that way.

So that’s my rule we implemented because it needs to be in place. They should not be able to do it without adjudicators there. Legally, they can. Technically they should not. But the fact that you’ve added cameras as well, even if the. The observers happen to step out for a potty break, they could come back later and watch the video. Yes. No, not at the adjudication. The adjudication station was here. There’s no camera, except if you get that fish eye in the corner. And that’s because you’re protecting the anonymity of the ballot. During adjudication, something has happened, and most times it was where someone marked a ballot and then they didn’t want it, so they put an X to it, say, not this one, and then they mark something else.

So most all of our adjudication, pretty straightforward, but it was a fairly easy election. So. So, Clint, let me just clarify real quick. So based on what this gentleman went through, you. You said that was a mistake of your employee. In future, that’s not going to be an issue. Right. Awesome. Thank you. They’ll be better next time. So it won’t be discussed, the adjudication won’t be on camera, necessarily, because you’re protecting identity. But it will never happen without observers. Correct. And they can always come back and look at the adjudicated ballots. They can just, you know, ask for them.

We just have them go through. That would be something the public could do anyway, because even though we let them do the hand count, they’re not going to see that small stack of adjudicated ballots, which I think ours were like, was it 90 or something like that? 92. As you said, it was a very simple, very small number. Two items. So one night was two items, but even still, two Items. We had people here, you know, adjudicator should have been back there watching it. So you invited members from all the parties? Yes. Green Party, Green, Republican, Democrat.

Right. We had one Green, three or four Democrats, only one Republican, so. But we’ll, we’ll kick them harder next time. For an npp, was that just. So when you don’t have no party whatsoever, like it doesn’t matter. Excellent. We didn’t have any though. Good, good. So. But it’s open to everyone. That’s open to everyone. So, Clint, people to see everything. They deserve to see everything. This is their elections. We’re just running a forum, you know. Yeah. Citizens only. So, Clint, can you just tell me why we’re here today? Why is it so important that we are going through this process? We are going through this process so that we can push this information down to the other counties and across the nation so that they can have a system, an interim system that allows them to know that their election is counted correctly and actually view it themselves.

So I mean, it’d be tough to count LA county by yourself, but you could definitely count your precinct by yourself. And if you’re really dedicated, you can count LA county by yourself. But that takes a little work. I love it. So election transparency and election reform, before you leave that point, that’s a really important point. What you’re, what you’re showing us today is not general practice in California. Right. You’re like at the spearhead here. You’re spearheading election insecurities at each state and you’re showing other counties how to do this. Now when you first started implementing this, my understanding is the state was not happy and they sent people up here to check on the legality.

So it’s really important to point out that everything you’re doing is perfectly legal. It’s already been checked. So if you’re in a county in California and you love what you see, which I don’t see why you wouldn’t, you can implement this totally legally in your own county. Who gets to make that choice? The ROV is usually in charge of all the choices. It’s usually discretion. You have to follow a lot of state rules regarding, you know, the voter rolls and things like that. But when it comes to most of the day to day business solutions, that is up to the rov.

So ROV can make those decisions for those watching that don’t know what ROV is. Oh, register our voters for people not California. Be supervisor of election. Why they have it different here. Every state has different names That’s California, right? Okay, once you have them in batches, come over here. I don’t care. Tell me what to do. You want me sit in this? Oh, I love it. Okay. They’ve been taken under their envelopes by now, right? Actually, they are out of their envelopes and they are in these plastic sealed bags with information of what you’re watching on the front of it.

I need somebody put a question over here too. I was just curious. I mean, obviously this is the county operation. How much interest do you get from other counties? Lots, lots, lots. We have a lot of people interested, but now they just have to. What kind of follow up? Implement implementation. I think take the step. That’s what’s so exciting about the fact that the gubernatorial candidates are interested in this because they’re going around the state of California saying, hey guys, we have a chance to have a clean election. Let’s have one. We need more supervisorial candidates involved in this as well.

Yeah, definitely. Supervisor Kennedy. Don’t leave him out. Sorry, my brother. That’s okay. So what happens here is on this cart, there are the ballots from those bins over there, the bags of ballots. Well, they’re already bagged up in stacks of 50. Gotcha person. This is the pitcher catcher. They pitch it and they catch it. So this person takes a bag, hands it to the person. They don’t give them a bag unless they don’t have anything in their hands. If they’re still counting, nothing gets stacked up. Stacked up is bad, Right? You want that flow to be perfect.

And everything’s on camera there and there and there and there. So there’s cameras everywhere. So smile. How much did it cost you to do all that? Well, the cameras are already here up there. These are pretty cheap. To implement this, you will have maybe $200 per station. That’s all you’ll have in the whole thing. Wow. And then you can live stream it and you can record it and send it out to your citizens so they can do a hand count themselves. So if a citizen says to their ROV in their county, I saw what Clint’s doing up there in Shasta County.

Can we do that here, please? And the ROV says, well, it’s too expensive. No, it’s not that expensive. This is very inexpensive, what you’ve done. Dirt cheap. Dirt cheap. Okay, good. Dirt cheap. You know, they’ll spend more than that on stamps probably. Okay, what’s a fair election worth? Yeah, exactly. And point out that the cameras were here. The recording was not. They. They didn’t Record anything, which does you no good because you can’t evaluate what happened. These are recorded, right. Previously. That’s. Oh, previously they were recording. You said the cameras were here. I was pointing out, yes, but the recording was not.

They didn’t record anything. So sort of the fun thing about it is, since there’s a recording, if a citizen themselves wanted to do their own recount, they could. They could check to see if they. If this county counted it properly. They could themselves. It might be tedious, but they could. And they could do it batch by batch, which makes it less tedious because let’s say you’re running and a particular precinct looks funny, you know. Yeah, because there’s a lot of funny looking precincts sometimes. And so you want to check that precinct. You can actually go to the film and actually check precinct by precinct and hand it in.

Now, we also have a little clock there so that you can actually tell us if something is wrong, you know, if it counted wrong. And Santa Clara had a lot of issues with theirs where, like, every batch was missing things kind of odd. And some things were way off. If it hadn’t been for a whistleblower, we probably wouldn’t have known that. They said they fixed it, but I really don’t know. No one else does either. You know, we hope they fixed it. May I ask which election that was? That was this last one. The special? Yeah.

Santa Clara. That was Dominion’s old stuff now. Liberty, I’m so surprised. Well, the good point is, it doesn’t matter who you use if you check it before it ever touches it. So if you use Dominion and you check it and you catch him doing something that isn’t right. You know, I’m not trying to be a troublemaker here, but you just brought attention to the fact that there’s a clock, but I don’t see it in the camera. Is that just because of what they’re displaying right now or because you’re right? If I wanted to say, hey, at this timestamp, there was a problem, but I can’t see it in the camera, so I don’t know, maybe.

Maybe that’s a technical issue. Maybe you guys need to move the camera or maybe it’s just not being displayed. I don’t know. I’m not trying to be a troublemaker here. It should be. No, it’s the right one. It’s just. There it is there. Now I can see it. There we go. So maybe that’s. Maybe your technical guy needs to adjust. Yeah, well, I think one of the Other we can see your lap, but we don’t get to see the camera. That’s right. One of the observations I made is that. Yeah, yeah, the person on the left.

That’s better. I’m gonna verify there are 50. Well, they don’t actually verify. That’s better. They counted. It was just in the. They go through them. Okay. Governor candidate Kobe Markham adjusted the camera. Thank you, Kobe. Because people don’t vote in lots of 50. Exactly. So, okay, so whatever precinct may be only 15 or 20 people, I guarantee you will now have 50. Exact. So what was interesting to me, though, was that it was. You could observe the person taking and showing each ballot there. Then they handed it to the center person. Right. Who then fed it in.

Right. And then they had a clipboard, and they recorded. I presume it was the cumulative number on the printer. It’s the new batch number. The new batch number. Because we have batch numbers based on what we think it is. But the machine doesn’t listen to us. Right. Because it’s. It makes its own batch number. So we have to record that so that you can line the numbers back up. Otherwise you can’t find it. And then the person on the right counts again to show that if there were 16 from a small precinct here, then that person on the right shows the same 16.

What’s interesting, though, is that the way that these feeders are and the displays, there’s no verification for an observer that every vote was counted on this thing. Correct? Correct. Yeah. So you see it counted out here. You see it counted out on the right, but there’s no verification element to make sure that the feeder actually fed them and count it. Even if there was particular. Can you trust it? Probably not. Well, so that’s what I did before. And that’s why you count it yourself. Yeah. And that’s why you compare it to what it said. That’s what you looking for.

Do we want to hold most of the questions for the end so that the two of you can get through the presentation and keep us on track? Okay. So this person counts through, and they don’t actually count through. They just basically flip through all of the ballots front and back. You see everything. This is what the citizens can use to hand count and make sure that everything lines up. Right now, we’re still stuck using machines, but we don’t care if the she makes an error. In fact, I’m still thinking we make an error. Right. You catch it? Yeah, I can catch it.

So. And it made no errors, but it ran through this did the count there? This is just the step where tabulation actually occurs. But this is the important step because this is where you counted initially. This is an important step because I was the programmer that actually wrote the prototype for the electronic voting machines. And in that prototype, back in 2000, was language that allowed someone who knew what they’re doing to flip the boat however they wanted it by race. You could just pick it and go. I want them to win. And it’d be 5,149. So, Clint, you wrote that code, is what you just said, that code? Yes.

You testified before Congress. I remember you can see that on YouTube. Testify for Congress. And said, that’s why you can’t use these things and they still use them. And adopted it and made it harder and harder to check them. So, wow. Initially, we were using what was in diebolt. There were it made logs. Right. And the log files didn’t match the actual results. And so people were screaming, yelling. So diebolt’s responses is, they don’t make logs anymore. Wow. They just don’t let you check it. And that’s kind of what they do. So they push down observers, they lock you out of checking source code.

They don’t let you blueprint anything. So machines, even if the company is trustworthy, it doesn’t mean it’s not. And the only way to know that is to count it. And this you can count by hand now, once it goes in machine. As a programmer, I can make it do anything, which means I can throw out different ballots than what you thought you put in there. Because I do the magic, right? So I can find the ballots I like and I can make those ballots come out and the other ones not. It’s really simple to do. I’m a geek.

The dots where I want to put. So the major reason for this one is because this becomes an official record. This is your ballots, if you have to pull them out and count them. So you want to make sure that this matches that, because if this doesn’t match that, I got funky in the machine. This is just a scanner here. Right. And it puts the images of the ballots into a software program that does the tabulation. Right. Well, I. Well, kind of not really. Kind of, Kind of not relevant. It actually gives you the numbers of each batch of how it counted it.

And then that goes over and the tabulator puts them together. Yes. So that’s their response. And that’s why you were saying the machines no longer made logs. Guess what you just did. You just made a log. Yes. An Absolute log that could be used in court. So you better not mess that up. Right. Excellent. Yes, sir. Would it be accurate to say that you could have volunteers who are operating in good faith, being good patriots, believing that they are acting in good faith and counting this and somebody, a hacker and who knows what country could have modified something in a computer somewhere and these people don’t know that the election is being stolen right in front of them.

And the volunteers are acting in good faith. These are honest patriots. But some hacker on the back end is doing some dirty business. Once you put it in this box, you don’t know what’s going to come out. Okay. And I don’t know if the vendors know what’s going to come out. It depends on who gets in there. If you look in a. There’s a Bloomberg article on China was hacking all of the little motherboards. This was in gop, this was over in CIA. All these people had these computers with these motherboards in them and nobody caught it.

Right. The only people who caught it was Amazon because they were going to buy the company and they were trying to be cheap because they are being towers are. And so they’re looking through the specs and they’re going, what’s this here? It’s got an extra heat sink. Do I need that heat sink? Am I paying for this? You know, it’s probably two pennies to get out of here. So they start looking at it and it turns out that that was actually embedded in China on these motherboards so that it was actually a full fledged computer. It would run when it was unplugged because it would run up the CMOS battery.

It had its own networking. It had its own everything. And that was 15 years ago. So now that little piece of rice is probably a filament embedded in the actual motherboard. Electronics even harder to find. Wow. So in elections it’s important to not trust anything. And the technology exists where that could take place. Yeah. I think it only makes our even stronger. Right. And you hand count it here. Use the machine if you need to. And then you have to care. The only issue with hand counting is it takes a lot of people. So I help convert the people in Germany back in 2006 to a hand count.

And they use it ever since. But since you have to have a lot of people and so what they do to get those people, because you don’t get volunteers once they think everything’s okay, they get lazy. Yeah, we have that problem here. We have human nature. Yeah. We had 400 volunteers before I came here to do a hand count. And once I came here, it dropped down to like 70 coffee and donuts only goes, everybody trusts the new ROV. That’s a lot of work. I don’t want to trust. I want to checkmates. Right, Good. So, because, you know, they may like me, I could get hit by a car tomorrow.

How would they know the next one’s going to be on us? Good job. Amen. So always check them. So. And even with all these safeguards, the ROV would have potential to play with the election. So that’s why I took a polygraph. And we’ll take one after each election that says we did not touch this election and we don’t remember so that we box that in. Because there are a lot of ways I could play with this if I was just honest. So you’ve implemented this part of this system to make sure that the machines aren’t tinkering.

Correct. And that’s great. Or inaccurate. Just exactly. Exactly. And it could just be a mistake. So there’s always mistakes, machines and things. But there’s another aspect to it that I’m particularly interested in as I study elections across the country. When does this process take place? Does it take place weeks leading up to the election? Does it take place on election day? Does it take place? When does this process take place? And I know we’ve talked about this. This is very important. Ideally, you would want to do all this after the polls close on election day. That’s when you do it.

Now, we don’t have enough processes or enough room to put them. You know, we need basically to do it. Because I’ve introduced this before the board. Yes. In order to try and get this all done. So we can do everything on election day. But they didn’t want to put the bill for that, so we didn’t get it yet. We’re still working on it. How much would that be? $300,000. So that you have safe elections for safe election. Let’s be more specific. $300,000 allows you to do all your counting after the polls close. Yes. And what you’re telling us now is you would rather wait till the polls closed to do any of this tabulation, but it’s not feasible without a little bit more money.

Right. What we have to do now is we have to. When the mail ends come in, we run the mail in, ballots first, then we do the election. Is that before election day? Yes. Yes. I don’t like that. I don’t either. But I got no way around it yet. Now no one in the office knows what those results are, but the computer could be telling somebody. The computer does know. Exactly. And that’s the problem. If you can eliminate that problem, it would be a good thing to eliminate. We’re not there yet. We’re working on it. So step at a time.

Step at a time. And it’s just a piece because it’s dirty voter rolls, it’s citizenship, chain of custody, verification. This is a piece of. In the old days, huge piece. Mail in, ballots gotta go. In the old days, the way they used to cheat elections is they would put observers in the parking lots and they would watch people come in and keep track of who voted. And you could. Okay, that’s a Republican. That’s an. You could kind of estimate how things were going and then they would radio it in. Well, now you don’t have to have observers in the parking lot because he got him a scene and it can be reporting in real time.

And so they’ve made it easier to leak that information in advance. That’s what I would like to close that door. I’d like to have everything opaque leading up until when the polls closed. Then everything could be transparent. But you’re saying that you’re working towards that. But we’re not quite there yet. Because you need another $300,000. Let me argue against you for a second. Okay, I liked his comment. So what? It’s only money. Do we want secure elections or not? But how about this? Why does it have to be election night? If it took us a week to count the ballots afterwards, at least we’d have security and transparency.

Why not? Why not just say we’ll take a couple extra days? Because then we’re for sure it’s right. And I think it’s because the people demand it that night. Don’t they want it immediate? And so people, people trade integrity for convenience and timeliness. And I think that’s a really important point to make. I would, I’d rather wait a week and have it free and fair and secure and transparent. But the public apparently doesn’t tolerate that. I think the public thinks if it’s longer without this, it’s being manipulated. They don’t trust unless everybody has them this Right, right.

And you have the psychological thing of post. And it is easier on observers too if you get to observe one day as opposed to have to sit here, you know. Yeah, but it just needs the proper funding and then you can have the manpower to achieve these goals. It’s not that complex. All the money that we spent on the state on all these other issues. I mean, 300,000. That’s. That’s the governor’s salary and that’s all you need donating this. Well, These are governor candidates. They’re here for a reason. This is why it’s nice that governor candidates are here because they’re, they are realizing this is a very feasible thing to do.

We just have to have the will. Let’s do it. It was nice to know the information on like where, where the issues can come up. Having someone that understands that because the public doesn’t. But bringing this to light is so important. That’s why we’re here today. Well, remember, you’re talking $300,000, but that’s times 54. 54. It’s still a counties, a lot more because counties are large. Oh, I’m averaging. Yeah, you have small counties and large. We’re talking the size of Shasta. But size of Shasta is 300,000. What’s the size of la. What’s the size of San Diego? As opposed to.

They don’t need five more machines, they need 50. So, Clint, let’s get to the elephant in the room. This is. This machine is not a voter machine. So it’s post vote. Correct. Is this connected to the Internet? Well, technically, no. Officially, you don’t ever know. Exactly. Because it has the. It has the mechanisms with inside of it to be connected to the Internet. Well, you won’t even know that. I just told you about the piece of rice that had bulk and you have no authority to turn that mechanism off. Is that right? Well, it doesn’t matter if it cheats, is what this process is doing.

I understand that we don’t tear up a cheat because we wanted to, but. Although what Doug was saying, Dr. Frank, is if you’re counting to beforehand. Right. You don’t have an audience and everything, but you do. You do have this. That’s where it could really go wrong. Especially if it’s still connected to the Internet. Correct. So this is why this, this process is so important for observers to be involved. Not just the ones here, but the observers of the video at the same time. Isn’t that correct? Right. And they can do that from the comfort of their home now, livestream and download.

So when you’re counting ahead of time. And you said because of manpower, you must currently. Correct. Well, because of funding, we don’t have the machine. Right. So let’s say that starts a week ahead of time. Right. Is all of that streaming online also can’t stream Online until after close of the day. Yes. Election day is the only time you start streaming. And it was a rhetorical question. Okay, but do you see the Achilles heel there? That. So you have to count ahead of time because as Zach, you said, you don’t have the funding for it, but therefore, that is the part that nobody could look live, observe.

Well, they can observe here, but here only you’re only. But it’s recording. It is recorded. But I thought we weren’t entering. We weren’t doing the precinct batches until after the close of. Correct. So they’ve all been open and put into batches. The precinct batches don’t. Don’t have to be open there. They actually come in. All right, but the pre. Sort, the presort, the mailings have to be a lot of people. But everything’s coming in in batches of 15, and that doesn’t. And those don’t start to be fed in until after 8pm Correct. So it’s not a question what’s happening beforehand.

Right. There’s no entry into the scanner prior to 8pm on election night. Correct. Okay, more like nine, because it takes a while for everybody to get. Thank you. So let’s articulate late, since you need the manpower day up. What is happening beforehand when the hands are on the ballots. That’s why I’m not getting that. So there’s a lot of work that is being done that week prior to the actual physical count. That’s the opening of the mail. Mail ends, and that’s your verification, putting them in stacks of 50 and they’re ready to go. So where does the $300,000 need to come in? Where would that apply to manpower? Well, it just buys more machines in order to do everything on election day because basically you get about 3,000 per hour output on each machine.

That’s what it comes to. That’s if you keep them busy. But doing it in this fashion where, you know, he does his, he does his, he does his. I take it and I give it this way. It keeps the speed up. Now there’s still people, so they still slow down. They have to think a little bit. Sometimes they stretch. This is my question. So you are using this. These machines when it’s not election day because you don’t have enough machines for the mail end. You have to do. The mail is through these. Yes, exactly. And what’s the percentage of mails? 85%.

Those are being done before election day. Only open. They can’t be stand until after 8. Right, but that’s what’s confusing? I think that’s what hers is trying to get at. Are you ever running any ballots through these machines early? Are you ever running any of them early? Yes, that’s what he’s trying to get at. And that’s when we’re concerned that that’s a vulnerability. Right, I agree. That’s why we want to do everything election day. Before that, we have to have enough machines to have a throughput. Yes. To get done in three hours. So right now, the only way you can deliver your results on election night is to do some of this scanning in advance.

And you’d rather not. You’d rather have more machines and do all of the scanning after the polls close. Correct. That’s what the 300,000 is. That’s what. That’s the point he was making. Exactly. Right. Yeah. What if they were to do hand counting of those ballots earlier? Then you wouldn’t need the $300,000. Mike, Mark Cook has been teaching you how to do handling hand count. Roadshow, he’s been going around the country teaching everybody how to do it. It’s about 10 times cheaper. So it might only be $30,000 to do the hand count ahead of time rather than buy the machines do it afterwards.

What about that idea? Why can’t you do that? I know the answer. I’m asking directly. In California, you’re not allowed to. That’s why I said Shasta county actually voted to get rear machines do a hand count. And the ROV and assistant RV went down to Sacramento and had them put up a bill just for Shasta county. Because we lose who did it to force them to use machines. So that’s where that went. That may get overwritten. The key is you gotta have the other part. You’ve gotta have the people to do the hand count. And that’s why you have to basically draft them like they do for jury duty, which is why Germany does and the Netherlands does and all that sort of thing.

And then you have the people to do the hand count. Because if you do a hand count and you don’t have the people, it’s going to take you. What was the logic or the rationale behind pushing for this, the machines? What was the logic? Yeah. Why was the state pushing? Why were they pushing so hard? Why does the state not let you see the source code? Why does the state basically lock everybody away from actually doing observations? So who’s the actual position in Sacramento that’s in charge of that? Was it the ROV or the assistant ROV that went down there both.

Is that the sos the secretary of state. Secretary of State. So let’s reiterate that. That’s a really important point. Let’s reiterate that Shasta county commissioners and people voted to go to all hand counting and get rid of the machines. So as a county, you decided, we don’t trust this stuff. We’re going to do it ourselves. We’re going to save money. But your former ROV and her assistant went down to Sacramento and lobbied the legislature to write a law forcing you to use these machines. Is. That’s what happened. But I think you also have to look at what they were studying.

And the majority of studies, the preponderance of the evidence shows that hand counting has inaccuracies as much as 25%. See, actually that’s incorrect. I think you can look it up. I said as much as. And I said there’s preponderance, says hand counting is inaccurate. I would. That is why. That is why democratically minded people, and not with a small D. That is why they went down to advocate for that. If you’re asking for the reasoning, I’m giving it to you. I would say when people quote those statistics, they forget that when computers screw up, they screw up big.

And so, for example, in your recent election when the scanners couldn’t read the ballots because of the overspray issue and you had to go back and recount everything because the machines were making way more errors than people would make. In other words, when machines screw up, they screw up big. And then they found a reason for it and they corrected it. But how do you correct the errors in hand counts? You do another hand count. That’s where the preponderance of evidence says that hand counting is inaccurate as much as 25%. Well, I went real quick. I would say a single hand count is.

But if there’s redundancy, that’s the problem. Right. Well said. And that’s why there’s a videotape. So you could do. That’s right. You could do it a thousand times over if you. Anything there, sir? Oh, yeah, they are. They’re flipping and showing everything back of every ballot. So anybody online could actually do their own tally. Okay. Except for most of the ballots in the last election weren’t counted until. Weren’t counted after they were counted. Before I was here for that. I observed it. And you couldn’t even run it up here. And we couldn’t see it from over here.

So majority of those ballots they were flipping were not counted. On the Internet. And when they finally could open it up to be counted on the Internet, there were problems and difficulties to see it on the Internet. But it was recorded, so. Yes. Not most of it. None of it was recorded before election because it’s illegal to record live ballots while people can still vote? No. Well, yeah, we recorded it. We just couldn’t show it. So it was recorded. It’s out there, but we can’t show it until after the elections. You can utilize it, can count it and know what’s going on.

They can’t say, oh, I’m behind, I got to go out there and kick my people up, you know, which they should be doing anyway, so you can have an audit afterward. Yeah, that’s pretty simple stuff. So if we count on election day, we wouldn’t have that problem at all, would we? I understand, Clint, good question. Just we’ve covered a lot of really technical stuff. So for a voter who’s watching our conversation right now, would it be accurate to say that the reason why it’s important and ideal, even though it costs more money to count all of the votes on election day, is it accurate to say that doing that makes it difficult for anybody, foreign country, whoever, to manipulate the election? Because if the results start coming in early, election manipulator, that gives them an opportunity to start feeding bad data into there.

But if it’s counted on election day, you count it all up, here’s the results. And it closes that door for anybody who foreign country, whoever, to commit election fraud because it happened so fast that they can’t respond in a way to make it look organic. And so that’s why the $300,000 for Shasta county, that’s why there’s value in that it closes too. It’s not like every election. Okay, that’s a one time version. Okay, good to know. But other things would take longer. But you will have more problem selling the larger counties on going to a hand count initially.

Right. They’re going to have to be moved into it easily. What this does is this lets you the citizens hand count when they want to. They can organize their own hand count and they can compare it to the correct and correct anything that went wrong. And then you can gradually move people in and go, well, I mean, if they had hand counted the night that we did it on the videos, they would have beat us because there were only two items on the ballot. They could have flown through it quicker than we could. People could have done it faster than the machines is what you’re saying.

The Citizens could have known the tallies before you did. Correct. Is there no such technology to determine whether or not these machines are communicating outside? Then? I do it. Back when I first started. Really old. So back when I first started programming, our networking was through the house wiring. So we would just send our signals right through the house wire, and we could go to any other computer that was also plugged in. So it’s really hard to do that. I mean, Bluetooth now can go two and a half miles. Just a Bluetooth. I have a sensor in my briefcase that I can hold next to a machine and tell you whether it’s talking on an Internet.

It’s not very expensive. Buy one on Amazon for 100 bucks. Why not implement something like that? You could, so why not? I don’t think you will find it if I was sending it through the house wire. And it depends on what he finds, too, because the protocols there are different protocols. People say, is it on the Internet? Well, it cannot be on the Internet. It doesn’t mean it’s not talking to something. It could have its own network. The Internet is a particular protocol, HTTP. So when you get on there, you’ll see that little language on HTTP, that’s the Internet.

It has a pipeline to go. The protocol you use can be almost anything you want it to be. So, you know, you don’t see the CIA sending things across the Internet. No. Plus, it sends it in packets, meaning it gathers all the information, and then in a split second, boom. But it’s still communicating. Yeah, but I get it, and I agree with you, by the way. But the challenge, the biggest challenge is it’s not a constant communication. It’s one quick blip like this, and they have all the information at one time. Every state, you know, I travel the country, so I know how it.

It’s different. Every state’s different. I was just in Wisconsin yesterday, in Milwaukee, and they run all the ballots through their tabulator. They don’t do it all on camera like this, but they run. And then at the end of the day, they roll the tabulator over next to the window and it calls a cell tower and reports and reports. So when people. When they say, well, the machines aren’t connected to the Internet, they can, and they connect through a cell connection. And that’s public knowledge. The clerks all acknowledge that’s how their machines run. So a lot of the machines in your state are the same as those machines in Wisconsin.

So the reason I’m bringing that up is because this is Shasta. Shasta just got Away from the Dominion machines, moved to these machines. But many of your counties still use those other machines. Many of the counties in California still use the exact same machines that are used in Wisconsin. That it’s no question you don’t have to have it the size of a rice piece of rice. The machines have the modem in it. So they’re designed for that. They’re designed to be able to report remotely. So that’s another complicating issue to this. As you’re implementing this across the state, there’s a whole different plethora of types of machines.

You got four different brands in your state, four different types, which matters too. So the proponents of machines use language that they’re not connected to the Internet. I guess 99.9% of the time they’re not, but when they need to be, they are. And that’s the language they use. So they feel very conscious in their language that they’re using on purpose. They don’t say it does not have the ability to. They say they’re not connected. Very important language that you’re using. We need to be able to parse their words to understand the manipulation there. It’s scary. Not connected to the Internet does not mean it’s not network.

So they could be completely accurate and completely wrong. The 1% audit, can you speak to how that went here in Shasta County? 1% audit? Yeah. How did that go? It went perfect, of course, because you know, we are watching. And if you’re watching, it’ll probably be better. Now, that doesn’t mean that the machines are necessarily the culprit, because there are a lot of people that would want to play even if the vendor did not. And as a gate, you can get into everything and you can do just about everything. So especially since there’s only four vendors.

There’s only four vendors. I guarantee you there’s a mole in every one of those poor fellows. And they’re playing their games. So it’s just the way it is. Everything has a back door. Programmers in the room, you can confirm that never wrote a piece of software that I didn’t give myself a backdoor. You got to give yourself back door. You have to. There’s no way to do the software development without it. Right? But this actually eliminates this problem. It doesn’t matter if this machine is completely corrupted, because the citizens now have the ability to hand count it themselves.

And that is the whole key to this. So until you get to a hand count, this method will work and you can roll it out Instantly. It doesn’t take any modification. You don’t have to buy special machines. It’s legal in the state of California, legal in every state. And affordable. And affordable. Downright cheap. Yeah. Cost of freedom. So there seems to be some people that don’t like this versus just doing it the old way. How come they don’t like this? Yeah, I don’t know. I would say locally it’s more of a political theater thing. They liked the old rov, they don’t like the new one.

He could give out puppies and they’d have a problem. So here it’s more of a political theater between two parties that can’t get along. In our community, it’s not so much the people themselves don’t agree because the people themselves and our board of supervisors that represent us did vote for full hand counting. And just like many other things, I think there’s been nine issues. The state has came back and made legislation to keep us from governing ourselves. They watch us closely. I would say another serious reason why, for example, Trump has been tweeting lately that he wants to get rid of all the machines.

And there’s been a very strong movement since 2020. You know, you have Mr. Lindell out there traveling the country saying he wants to melt them down and turn them into prison bars. So there’s a very strong anti machine movement in the country. And I think that’s why Shasta went that way. They went, yeah, we’re going to participate in that. And that is alive and well. Even as recently as yesterday, President Trump tweeted again that he wants to lead a movement to get rid of all the machines. So there’s a lot of. There’s a strong political movement and again, political theater with derangement syndromes and stuff.

Even. Exactly. So, yes. So there’s a lot going on around the issue. And Clint is rov. Curtis is kind of stuck in the middle of that political dilemma. And the state law says he has to do certain things, so he’s complying with this, but then he’s putting in everything he’s capable of putting in legally to kind of plug the gaps and do the stop gaps. And that’s why I think it’s so important people see this because they realize this is totally legal and he’s just made the elections transparent. And are they perfectly secure yet? I would not say that.

Yet. I would not say that. I would not say there’s still a couple of loopholes that I don’t like, but this is a huge step forward. Processing. So Good. I’m going to add a layer, something I don’t understand. So I’m hoping all you experts can help me understand. You’ve got voters, you’ve got votes, you’ve got counts. That’s how my brain works. Number of people who vote should equal the number of ballots counted should. So Inspired by one Dr. Frank, back in November of 24, I went to the registers office registrar’s office in Sonoma county where you’re from the day the election was certified, I watched the certification, etc.

And stepped to the window next to it and then requested the list, excuse me, of everyone who voted in this election. And so with the assistance of people whose area of expertise data is looked at the voting methods, whether it was in person, by mail, etc. Etc. The various voting methods counted up those numbers, looked at the Secretary of State’s website and the website of our registrar’s office to see if those numbers balanced and they. They don’t. They didn’t. It’s okay. Met with them, crunched out the numbers and basically because ballots elections are supposed to reconcile the numbers of supposed to equal.

That’s when you certify them. And they didn’t. And so I didn’t understand that and was told that because the special election had one card, one page, one ballot. Right. One issue, maybe some place to. Back in 24, the ballots had two cards, right? So in some instances with the almost universal or the universal vote by mail, envelopes were mailed in that had a card. Not all voters vote for all candidates. We were told some envelopes had the two cards, some envelopes had nothing in them and they were still counted because they don’t know that they go through the signature verification.

You don’t know until the ballot is opened and they’re separated, there’s a little hole. I know, I know that’s a whole separate topic. But I told you if there’s a ballot in there, I don’t understand how. And I looked at every county and the numbers don’t match. I’ve done every county. She’s right. None of the counties match all of these races, contests, elections were certified and the state certified it. So I don’t know what I’m missing. Help me understand, understand how this. Oh, also the ICX machine, that’s a one page ballot. So you’ve got a one page ballot, you’ve got a two card ballot, you vote in person.

Some people vote for some, some people don’t. Our results on our website have number of instead of votes, voters Votes counts. They compare the number of participants and the ballots cast. And we were told with no, without any compunction, they’re never going to match. They’re irreconcilable. Of course, when you’re selling something, you have to. You go to the bank and the banker says, well, your bank balance doesn’t match what we say, but it’s okay, that’s normal. Because I, I opened with that, with that scenario and was told that, oh no, it’s different because the identity of the voters.

Whereas in the bank, they know who you are, you can go in. And so if none of it makes sense to my brain and, and this is. These are certified elections. Right. So now it’s all recorded and I, I just need help understanding in California no longer makes a difference. They have now said it’s all ministerial and we will certify it if you don’t. So it really doesn’t make it. They’ve taken it away from the counties they’ve taken away from. That’s a law. It’s a federal law though, isn’t it? Well, no, it’s a state law. States handle most of their elections and nothing says it has to be actually, I have to do certification.

So if the people don’t certify, the state will certify for them. So we don’t really matter anymore. For you’ve been taken out of the process. I’ve been taken out. They took away another layer of integrity of actually someone who’s going to make a decision, they do it themselves. So it doesn’t have a. I have heard people use excuses that, well, Shasta county had 2700 more votes than they had voters. Okay. The excuse I heard off the top was that it was provisional votes. That is not true. If it’s a provisional vote and it isn’t valid, then it’s not a voter.

So you don’t count it. Right. Because it’s provisionally. It didn’t come in. If it’s provisional and you cure it. So it is now a voter, then you can count it and then you have a vote. So they still line up. It’s not like there’s some magic there where they don’t line up. So how much staff do you have helping you making all that stuff line up? We have 12. Wow. Wow. You can do that with 12 people. We’re Shasta County. That’s amazing, though. That’s amazing. Show you what’s possible. Can’t even open the mail in LA county with 12 people.

And she was a Shasta county resident, she came to you and she said, rov, Curtis, we don’t under. I don’t understand why you don’t reconcile with the state. Would you have that problem? How would you answer her? I mean, we should. We should. You should reconcile. So something is wrong. Something is wrong either on our end, on their end, or somebody’s playing with something. But who. So who confronts whom about. Well, the problem is, you know, and I. I think the. Was about stuffing going on earlier. Can you explain what stuffing means so that people who don’t know where people.

Well, they had a room where they put the ballast. They didn’t have any sort of anything to secure them. Nothing was sealed, just an empty room. And then they had this door you had to go through with little key codes, and you go through it. So that was their security. Except when you look at the logs, there was hundreds of entries that show entries in that room that has no name. So it’s kind of weird. I haven’t done analysis to see if actually things have been deleted as far as records, but as far as names, they’re not there.

So I don’t know how you do that, but they had a lot of elections where the first numbers that came in were completely different than the other two layers. So your early vote was different than your lower vote. So the people that were sitting in that room voted completely different than your other two sections, which actually never happens, by the way. It’s always pretty flat. Okay, it’s not flat. Something’s wrong because, you know, you got, like, you’re looking basically really huge pole numbers. So unless something happens between this one and this one, then, you know, like somebody dies or something, then the number should be the same.

And generally, if someone dies, it doesn’t really affect the numbers that much either. People don’t know, and they keep voting for the same guy. So sometimes they win after they’re dead. But that’s an aside. So is that what we. What we hear? Are you referring to Shasta county specifically with those ballot stuffing allegations? Yes. Yes. You’re. You’re at. You’re asserting right now that there was criminal activity? I believe there was, yeah. Okay. Based on what he just said, if you don’t have a log and people have access to something. Well, no, he’s talking about ballot stuffing, not about access.

And when public records request were submitted, they were denied, including video records that were requested and they were denied. Yet every records request that has came through your office has been honored. Correct. Better. Okay. But doesn’t give me A call. Anyway. So now you have ballots in there that don’t add up to the rest, but there’s no way to take them back out. So if you have 2700 extra stuffed ballots, it’s too bad. So sad. With no name assigned to each of those ballots, Is that what you’re saying? There’s no name on those ballots because generic ballots.

You had 100 names that voted, but you had 110 ballots. Correct. And so you don’t have, you don’t know where those 10 ballots, those 10 ballots aren’t assigned to some voter in the rolls. They’re just. They’re in the stack somehow. That’s the ballot stuffing. Right? So if you have that, you know, you can look at voter tendencies and everything, like, because you see a lot of that and says, well, that particular party voted and then it’s different. So what you have to look for is, well, is that true? Well, how many of that party voted? How many other party voted? Because people usually vote party lines, right? And you can look at that.

That might explain it. But if that doesn’t explain it, then the conclusion is something happened to make your ballots grow. And also now that the ballots have been shredded, even though the request from the board was to keep them, those ballots have been shredded. So. So there’s no way to go back. And look, I would also note something here. This is really important. Rob Curtis has made an important. I mean, he made an allegation that there was illegal activity, but you notice he’s not really pursuing that. Instead of trying to prosecute previous perpetrators, he’s saying, I’m going to secure future elections.

So it’s important, I think, because as I see election integrity going on around the country, we’re not after the cheaters right now. We’re trying to secure. And if you think about it from the candidate’s perspective, which is why I think they’re so interested in this. They’re interested in securing the next election. They’re not necessarily interested in prosecuting in the former. So I think that’s why this is such an important day. We’re telling people, you can secure your election. Here’s how. Let’s all get on board and let’s do this. Well, I pretend to add in that if in fact he did find that there had been.

He’s kind of alleged that there was criminal activity, wouldn’t it then be incumbent upon him as a public official to report that to the Secretary of State and to the California Bureau of Investigations to be able to follow up on that actually, I’ve reported a case to the Department of Justice and asked him to come in and look it over. Okay. Now, California. Not California. Well, wouldn’t that. Because you’re really looking at the California election and its integrity. So why wouldn’t you report that to California? Since states are in charge of elections, DOJ is actually looking at these things.

Okay, so you picked a friendly venue versus something that you. That. So you haven’t reported it to the state. You reported it to the federal Department of Justice because you felt that was a friendlier venue, but you didn’t report it to the state, which is the institution in charge of running elections by our federal constitution. And that if they are failing, why would you report to the cheater that they. No, no, no. You’re not talking about the state cheating. We’re talking about a local, nonpartisan election official that this man is alleging engaged in criminal activity. Remember, those are the people that went to the state, which is.

Oh, and Markham. But the county is so powerful, sir. Yeah, we’re so powerful that these two people could upend all of the apparatus of the State Department. I’m just answering your question. Right. That’s why he would not report. Exactly. That doesn’t make sense. He should have reported it to the state authorities to investigate if it were really a criminal activity. At this point, he was venue shopping to get good press to. To further. To further a whole set of election conspiracy wacko. Ism. Okay, wait, wait. Let’s go with that real quick. Thank you. Would you have been okay if you reported it to the state and the doj? Yeah.

Yeah. But the fact that he was venue shopping for only one set of eyes just for you. There we go. What was that? Clint? Clint, would you tell us that again? As I should, if you’re an. I’m glad you asked him to do that. I’ve been an elected official. You have responsibilities. You have to hold him accountable. And you’ve done that successfully today, right here. I’m glad that you’re here. He should have done it to the state, and now he’s going to do it. Thank you. Mission accomplished. Yeah. So, Clint, you will be reporting it to the state at this time, correct? Forward.

The exact same thing I sent to DOJ to the state. Excellent. Thank you. Most of the time. Most of the time is around the country when I’ve seen people in your situation and they report it. Most of the time it goes to the local da. Most of the time it goes to the local sheriff. Like you can look up in San Joaquin county when we found a local official who was stuffing ballots, which is proven in court. And there’s. It’s proven in court in San Joaquin County. Lodi, look it up. The city councilman was stuffing ballots.

So normally that’s not handled at the state level anyway. Normally that’s handled, but I’m not. You committed to go into the sec, to the state. You ought to, but I would also recommend you report it to your own sheriff and report it to your own DA because that’s usually where that’s handled. Yeah, but you know, you’re new to the job, right? You just. You’ve had it. Well, how long you’ve been here now? A year? Since May? Since. Okay, so he’s had six months. He’s uncovered some stuff. And you’re mostly been focusing on securing the next election, it sounds like.

And the important part is that discrepancies were discovered and they have been reported. So the fact that there is any confusion, as if there are no discrepancies versus being there, they do, in fact, exist. So there is, in fact, a problem. And so I think we can all agree that this isn’t a, you know, a farce, that there’s an issue with election integrity in that result needs to be investigated. Absolutely. There’s another example that Mike Thrillows counts off that I was referring to. You go in with your ballot, unopened ballot, and say, I want to vote in person.

And. And they say you’ve already voted. Well, no, because here’s my ballot. So various things can happen as a result. Result of that. One of them can be the DA gets involved. Here’s your argument, and says, okay, let the person vote. In addition to the fact that they counted the first ballot that came back, so that other ballot will also be counted. So that way. Well, that’s how I was told they liked it. If you come in and someone has already voted in your name in every county in California, everywhere. Okay. And it’s already voted in your name, and they have already accepted it because once they’ve accepted the mail in, it’s taken out of that envelope and it’s counted.

You can’t put it back in the envelope. That’s true. It’s gone, it’s anonymous. There’s no way to remove it. You made that clear. So they take your provisional, but then they check it when they balance to see if you’ve already voted. And then your provisional is not counted. So it never would be. Even if never would be, it can’t be because you’ve already voted. That would be a duplicate. That’s the law anyway. Well, wait, wait, wait. But there’s a, there’s a. You pointed out something amazing here because think about this and we’re going to correlate it with you said claim.

So just let’s use numbers. Let’s say a thousand people come in and do a fake ballot, right? And then you have 200 people come in the real ballot. Well, the only thing that gets adjudicated or fixed is that 200. You still have that 800 that went through and got counted. And got counted. You’re going to count the first one in. You’re not going to count the second one in. Exactly. So this is my, that’s exactly my point. So what she said is extraordinarily valid because the only thing that would be repaired is if the actual voter came in and voted.

But if they didn’t, if they’re 67% didn’t vote in 2022. So if they’re one of those 67% that they’re counting on, those can pass rights through and that can be an ill. The first one that arrives, I was told, is the one that gets counted. First one in wins, right? Mr. Curtis, even if you are voting in person, it doesn’t matter. No one counts. Right. Because if somebody, you know, mailed one name inject, got injected or something, I think that you’ve done it right by taking it to the doj. You don’t want to play your hand with a state or even crooked county officials who might do what I’ve already.

You’ve already said the state has done which taking control of county elections away from counties to try and counteract what you’ve done. Why would you warn them? Okay, here’s something else I found. We’re going to investigate, clean up your paperwork. Yeah, smart just to take it to the doj. Thank you for doing that. I disagree with this. I don’t think you should take it to the state. That’s just me. Too late now. They know I wanted to change gears just for a sec, sign a new. Anyway, because they wanted the changes I was making to the apartment.

So I wrote them this 25 page essay of all the changes we made. And in that I was talking about the lack of chain of custody and the rooms that had log files missing. So they really have all the information. Anyway, I didn’t file it as a criminal matter, I just gave it to them. So they had that information back in September and I don’t think they want to deal with it. But I don’t know if they have the capacity. DOJ will have the capacity. A lot of it will hinge on the. The ballots are still there.

So if they do it quick enough is if the ballots are put in. If you put in fake ballots, you can’t separate them, right? We can a little bit. Because when you fill in a bubble and you fill in another one and you fill in another one, it’s going to be the same. And if you fill in 20, you will actually be able to do like a signature and actually go through and find which bubbles were filled in by the same person. Wow. Now there’s an advantage with the one they had last time because they had this.

This thing about overspray, which is another concern because they said something was over sprayed and so it would read. Except if you look at the ballot, you don’t see anything. So apparently that machine can read something that we can’t see. And that’s a problem because what else is it reading in there that we can’t see? It should only read what we can see. Right. So I’m not sure the overspray thing’s working yet. So before me, so I don’t have time for it. But when they did the duplication of balance, they would have to have signed on to who was duplicating the ballots.

And technically they could then get a sample of those circles and match them to the other ballots that had 50 by one person to that one and they could lock it together. But that’s not something the state could probably do. That’s more of a forensic. Big boys. Clint, where is the ballot stuffing taking place? Is it taking place here? It would have taken place wherever they were storming that room upstairs. Oh, can’t stuff them now because everything is locked up tight. Four seals on camera. I would qualify that. You can’t stuff it that way anymore. I would say in your state, you have a huge problem.

It’s been proven in court. So I’m not speculating that a fourth to a third of the people in your rolls don’t belong there and you’re mailing ballots to. To them anyway. And so there are people, there are active groups that are collecting those ballots that are floating around, littering the pavement and turning those ballots in. And that’s another kind of stuffing. It’s like a harvesting of not real voters. That’s another. And that is still going on. Deceased people don’t vote, but your numbers will still match. You wouldn’t be able to detect that over here. Yeah. You fixed.

You fixed everything under your control. Right. There is still something out of your control. A lot. And the fact that you’re mailing ballots to people who aren’t real voters is a big problem. Or the theft of those ballots from mailboxes. Exactly. I myself have discovered where apartment buildings are having their entire. You know, mailboxes are all in the same area. Yeah. They get ransacked. Yes. And so I’ve talked to multiple tenants in multiple apartments, and they asked, have you received your ballot? No, I haven’t received my ballot. And I would just. And this all happened because I discovered a stack of mail from multiple apartments that were all next to each other in the same block, just dumped in a parking lot.

I thought that was kind of strange. So then we went over to those apartments and asked, have you received your ballot? No, I haven’t. Which, if I could just piggyback off of what you’re saying. 20, 20. I went to vote. There was a couple in front of me. They told the couple that they had already voted. My husband and I went Next. They said, Mr. And Mrs. Yeater, you’re good to go. You’ve already voted. I knew I hadn’t voted. Right. But I didn’t know what to do. So I said, well, I still want to vote. I didn’t vote.

So I filled out what they gave me, a provisional ballot. What I just learned from you right now is they’re gonna go back to the original vote. So somebody voted for me. It wasn’t me. But your own experience. Four ballots were stuffed. We would call that those names were used by somebody, which then disenfranchised you and the couple in front of you from their constitutional right to have their ballot counted. That’s a super important issue here because it’s a constitutional issue. This is a civil rights issue. The system that the state is imposing on you is enabling your rights to be violated.

Isn’t. That’s. And that’s another huge aspect of this. Not only do we need to have honest clerks that are securing election, but your. Your state system is disenfranchising you from constitution rights. That’s a huge state. Than we are here in Shasta County. So this tells you that it is a statewide issue. Yeah. San Diego. Because she. She can’t be further away from us. Right. And it’s happening. So this is not just Clint trying to rain on somebody’s parade locally and her story with the four ballots that were stolen. Because the couple. Yes, Couple in front of me.

So four votes were stolen. From real citizens in that process. I see that all over the country because around the country it’s become centrally controlled. That’s why Curtis is saying the state is taking away even more control. We need to return it to local control so that we can protect our citizens, we can defend the constitutional rights. That’s the whole reason we’re here today. We’re trying to alert everybody to the fact that there is a way you can secure your elections. The candidates are campaigning on it. We’re organizing around this. Hey, California, secure your elections. Don’t let them be centrally controlled anymore.

Bring it back local. That’s right. We’re taking our California back as a candidate. If I’m talking to Newsom or I’m talking to the secretary of state, I’m talking the legislative caucus members in Sacramento. If I say why not? What’s. What are they going to say to you? Well, that’s what I. Yeah, that’s what I need to. They’re going to know. I need to know why. When I say, why aren’t you doing that? Why aren’t you doing what? And I show this event and because we’re at the top, you got to get the decision making. Yes. And I also think it’s a consumer protection issue.

100. I think it’s a civil rights. It’s a constitutional issue. Right. What is it that I could say. And the other candidates. And I think you’re on the same boat. I’m learning a lot from all these other candidates. They’re super to be here. I love them. What is it when I say why not? What are they. What is the legislature going to say to you when you say why won’t you fix this? What are they going to say in person? When I sit with somebody that’s in decision making or lobbyist or whoever, what is it that they’re going to say, why not? I don’t see why not.

It’s a progressive. A progressive idea for a solution. That may be the next solution. We don’t know. It’s got some things that need. But it sounds like it’s more viable and relevant than what’s being done or to help protect a consumer. Take my governor hat off. As a consumer or just as a citizen. You’re protecting my vote. You’re protecting me and my vote. And it’s a nonpartisan issue. It has nothing to do. That’s why I said Democrat. Anybody here? Election integrity. I lean on many traditional values, but I have lots of Democrats that want free and fair elections, too.

They hate the Fact that this fight’s going. Amen. Okay. They’re not the left, but atheist Marxists, as I call them. Right, right. Okay. That’s just lie, cheat, steal. That’s what they do in China, that’s what they do in Russia. We tied it globally, all over. All over the world. And now it’s here. The ethics are gone. Ethics, right. Yeah. So don’t lie, cheat, steal. That’s what we want. That’s what we want to bring in. Most Democrats are that way, too, in California. We have to get the message. I need to know why not. Okay, so I’ve asked that question of dozens of AGs, dozens of Secretary of states, and testified before a dozen legislators, legislatures in the country.

And I was just with Robin Boss recently. He was the speaker of the House, and after showing him evidence of fraud, he stood in front of television cameras and announced to the world, quote, we have widespread fraud in the state of Wisconsin. And so the reporter stuck the mic in front of him and said, so what are you going to do about it, sir? Why not? That’s your question, why not? And he said, there’s nothing we can do about it. You have to elect a new governor. That’s what his answer on in the media. And so there is no political will in any legislature in this country.

I’m talking about this specific process. When I say we’re gonna fund this, you’re saying, why not? Why? What are they gonna say? Why take advantage of this? Even if you think the machine is perfect, you love machines and they’re always perfect. What this does is it will. Will prove to people that don’t, you know, those crazy people that don’t necessarily. The wackadoodles, the wackadoos, that it actually is perfect, you know? No, I’m saying. That’s what I’m saying. Why? Why not? What? How can they give an objection to me? Why will the legislature say no and it’s dirt cheap? What’s going to be their objection? Let me close out.

Ask them. I’m gonna do that. Ask them. They’ll tell you their objection. There’s no political will to do that. So there’s nothing. There’s no reason. It’s like the third rail of politics. When we were younger, you couldn’t talk about Social Security. If you did, you were out. I’m telling you, around the country, there’s zero political will. Anybody who says, yeah, we’re going to help reform our elections, they’re ostracized by the legislatures. I’m telling you, that’s a national. Oh, it’s not a Republican, Democrat issue? Absolutely not. Right. That’s what I thought. It works for those that are in power.

Every legislature in the country. It doesn’t matter. Republican, Democrats, and they’re in power anyway. As we’re getting political here, we might want to take this outside. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, no, I’m not trying to do the policy. I know it wasn’t direct, but I’m, you know, I need to know. So when do you actually start counting votes? Do you verify the signature before you count that first vote? Yes, over there. He showed us earlier. Okay, well, I’ve missed that because. Yeah, you came in late. Yeah, Signature verification is always in, but it’s. It’s always done before a vote is.

But basically you have three hours of training to be a signature verifier. That’s what the state gives you. Three hours of training. And some states give you none. They say, hey, you’re a signature verifier. Congratulations. But California gives you three hours. If you wanted to do it as a profession, it would take you three and a half years. So I do the same thing as Kim. I take my valid in and I say, I’m here. I’m so and so here’s my id. I’m checking to see if anybody voted for me. You can’t take your id. Well, I do.

I do. No, I say, here’s my id and I do it whenever I go anywhere. Okay. We’re not supposed to. Well, it’s okay to me. It’s important. It’s very important. If that does happen and someone has voted for you, you go to the sheriff’s office, you report a crime, there’s nothing he can do either. Well, you at least have it on the books. You can put on the books, but you’re never going to get to vote. A lot of times they will give you a provisional to make you feel better, but it’s just to make you feel better.

Yep. But I think it’s important everybody goes and asks. I just have one little. I just have one little question. Actually. It’s not a. It’s not a big deal. So it’s a good question. Come back. No, this is a good question. So aside from all the politics stuff, what I wanted to ask is there is potentially a special election coming up that might be going on at the same time as like a midterm general. So you might actually have votes from two different elections happening at the same time. I just wanted to see that. Yeah, well, I just wanted to I wanted to see what your plan to deal with that was.

If they call a special election, we will have one and it will probably be ending. Will be ending about the same time we’re starting the June election. So it’ll be but a mess. Wouldn’t technically some of the votes still be coming in or maybe not coming in, but you know, they’re postmarked, so they might actually be interfering. So I’m just trying to figure out, like, how you plan to separate those. We couldn’t put them together. It has to be a small gap. We’d have to get to the point we have to cut off because otherwise, like you said, you might get a blend there.

Okay. Your, your, your thought is that it will. They won’t interfere. We’re not going to run simultaneous. That would be terrible. That, that’s what, that’s what I was concerned about. Right. Cool. So we’ve got to. You got to have a gap there where you’re ending one and immediately you’re starting the next. And hopefully they will put them together and then it’ll be in June. All right, outside for your press conference. Outside for the press conference. All right. Fantastic. Clint ask you a question? I was a little bit late, but what I wanted to ask is everyone’s concerned with cost and what would you.

What are your plans to curtail cost and to save money? Well, we’re going to do our own printing. Our own printing. And that will save about $100,000. You and I know the answer to that. But if we’re going to save money and then if there were no mail in ballots, there would be a into saving. Is that correct? Correct. Mail in balance causes all of that. So mail in ballots. So, Clint, mail imbalance cause all of that. Okay, got it. Fantastic. All right, we’re going to head out to the press conference, Ladies and gentlemen. We’re going to head out to outdoors and we’re going to start the press conference in three minutes if we can head outdoors.

Press conference in three minutes. Patty. Hey. Need to give you a hug. Do you know where Patty is? Patty has my press release. Okay, thank you. About four hours? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not too bad. How are you? Good, good. Good to see you. Hang on, let me get ready for the presses. It’s good to see you, Patty. Patty’s not here for some. After the press conference. Yeah. Where. Tom, where is the Banner? Tom Free. Tina Peters, where is the banner? It’s in the car. Oh, you need to have it out here. So it’s already ready to go.

Yeah, it’s 50ft long. It’s from. But I need you to have it ready so that we’re ready to go. Have it. I would go get it from the car and have it right here. Yes. Yeah. Because I can’t have everybody. We’re going to be outside. It’ll be outdoors. Awesome. Petty. Thank you. Thank you. You’re the best. We’re going to head outside for the press conference. Excellent. And we’re gonna head outside for the press conference. Hey, you guys. Great, great, great, great, great work. Great work, everybody. This is amazing. All right, here we go. Yes. Was there anyone that you wanted to have up at the podium with us? Clint? No, I don’t.

Okay, so. Okay, fantastic. Doug, we’re gonna head out. Okay, fantastic. That should not be here. Great work. And charlie. Where’s my charlie? Gorgeous. Okay, we are getting ready right now for the press conference. So we’ve got the sun coming in. This way. We’ll be this way. I think that’ll work. Okay, fantastic. All right, guys, stick with us. Yeah. Here we go. Take our California back. Election reform. Your vote matters. Take our California back. Come on. All right, Leo, let’s have you up here. Leon, let’s have you up here. Right here. Done. What was that? Doug, we’re going to have you up here when you’re ready.

Scott, I’m going to have you up here as well. We’re going to have you guys behind the podium. And where’s David? Yeah. Put our candidates in the middle. Lewis, let’s get you up here. Kobe, let’s get you up here as well. And just. Good, good, good. Is there any way you would want to help me with my camera work here? Is that possible? All right, so we’re gonna. Here we go. So I’m gonna have you record this if possible. All right, Here we go. I’ll share all of this. So you. We’re live right now. Okay. And you get to do this press conference.

So actually. Here we go. There we go. Get yourself in a good position. Wherever you feel like you need to be. Just remove your fingers. Gone. It’s already on and running for you. So this is just the battery pack. And this. I can hold this together like this, or I can. You can put it in your pocket. No, this is. No. Okay. Awesome. All right, let’s make sure everybody’s out. Hang on one second. Hi, Clint. Clint, let’s get you. Let’s bring you the. Well, This guy was. That’s okay. I’m not a super press. Getting set up to go.

Fantastic. Hello, everybody. Hello. Hello. We are in Shasta County. Is this the most amazing place on earth right now? Yes, it is. Yes, it is the episode center. Absolutely. The epicenter. Okay, so good afternoon. Are we still in the morning or are we in afternoon now? Oh, my gosh. We just came out of one of the most amazing experiences. Thank you to Clint Curtis, ROV of Shasta county. Thank you to his amazing team. We are so grateful for you guys opening the doors for allowing election transfer transparency in creating the possibility of election reform. Now I want to make sure that my guys, let’s get.

I’m gonna have just the governor candidates up here and the supervisors up here, Doug Frank up here. And I know we can’t see everybody, but I don’t want to block anybody. So you guys want to come a little bit closer. There we go. That way. You guys swim in a little bit. Yeah, there we go. Listen, intimate please, in the middle. This is fantastic. All right. My fellow Californians and freedom loving patriots, my name is Kim Yater. I am the host of you may have heard of the take your power back show. We just got. We’re on the heels of the take your power back California governor showdown where we highlighted 13 governor candidates who brought it.

If you didn’t see it, I want to explain, encourage you to go to takeourcaliforniaback.com you want to see that showdown and you want to get a good sense of what our governor candidates really believe and are they really willing to put a stake in the ground. Today we have them here, we have a handful of them here today where they said election reform matters. I am so proud to lead the charge on alongside or take take our California backed charge alongside election integrity expert Dr. Douglas G. Frank. You guys may have known him, he has traveled the country 48 states.

So I would consider him an election integrity expert, or rather, let’s reframe that, an election reform expert. Because are we going to reform our elections? We are reformed, forming our elections, putting the power back into we the people’s hands. Now with me on this stage, in this space, we have gotten to not only partner with Dr. Douglas G. Frank, our take our California backed teams, but the governor candidates who are standing in the gap with us today. You’re going to hear from them. We’ve got Kobe Markham, we’ve got Scott Shields, Lewis Hearn, Leo Zaki, David Kahlenberg and our amazing supervisors.

And Clint Curtis we’re going to introduce in just a second. Now, these guys are the ones that are standing in the gap Saying, you know what? Not on my watch. This is not going to happen anymore. We are declaring transparency across every single platform, giving the power back to you. We united to expose the dysfunction, restore trust in our elections and reclaim the California dream and God intended dream for every family built on faith, freedom, values and the God given the potential of we the people. This is not about left versus right. It’s about common sense solutions that put families first, fight corruption, protect our constitutional freedoms and ensure every vote is counted fairly and transparently.

We’re calling on Democrats tired of bureaucracy, independence, seeking real change and Republicans ready to fight for the values that once made California a golden state. Together in our take our board, I take our California back movements. We are gathering teams, leaders from across the state to make sure voters are educated, that we have state, we voters are educated statewide on practical steps to election reform, voter verification, accurate roles. We’re all in agreement that that’s important. Yes. Full transparency and secure processes so that every Californian, every California can trust the result. We need to know. Rhonda, thank you.

Thank you for everybody who had input in that room. Everything you shared was so important. Your story, your experience in the state of California. We want to make sure that those votes are counted properly, that your vote and your voice is heard. Shasta. Shasta. Shasta. Thank you, Glenn Curtis and peace. Shasta is leading the charge. You are laying the foundation. You are giving us vision. You’re showing us what is possible in the state of California. The Bible says, where there’s no vision, the people perish. It also says, write the vision. Make it plain so that he who reads it may run with it.

Well, California, it’s time. It’s time to take that message and discern. Speak it loud and clear. It’s time for election transparency and election reform. And thank you to Shasta, Clint Curtis, Shasta’s team, and all of the community of Shasta County. From our hearts, we know what it is to be in the fight. And you guys, you have been in this fight from the beginning and you have been thrown punches from all sides. But you are an example of what it means to stand firm, to let nothing move you, to always give yourself fully to the work of the Lord.

Thank you. We are honored to walk this walk and run this race with you. We’re going to Give Doug Frank, Dr. Douglas G. Frank, election reform expert, the opportunity to have a couple words with you. Then we’re going to introduce our candidates who are going to speak about what we just experienced is possible with election transparency and reform. And then we’re going to have our supervisor speak, and then we’re going to bring up Clint Curtis, and then we’re going to wrap it on up and invite you to a very special event, the Governor forum debate tonight at 6pm we’ll tell you more about that in a moment.

Doug, Frank, come on up. Thank you. So excited to be part of what we’re doing. Okay. Okay. Kim asked me, along with Laura Logan, to moderate the showdown we had in November. And 13 of the candidates were there. And I was so excited because they heard the call and six of them are standing here today. They wanted to come up to Shasta county to c how election could be run in a safe way. And they’re actually campaigning on it. And so it’s exciting to me the way you actually have reform on election reform is that the candidates themselves are adopting it in their platforms.

So that’s great. Now, I just want to tell you, I’ve been traveling the country for five years now, almost 25 out of 30 days a month, and I’ve been bragging on Shasta county because from the very beginning in 2021, when I came up and met the patriots here, they had a vision. They had a vision. They wanted to have clean, transparent elections. And it’s been a joy for me to work alongside them along the way. But it’s really. I give them all the credit. They’ve been working so hard here. And the culmination, I would say, of that and why I’m so proud to talk about this and why this is such an important message for your state is that the culmination of that is eventually the board of Supervisors in your county came to realize what was going on, and they appointed Clint Curtis as your new rov.

And he’s stepped in and he’s done a fabulous job blocking all the problems that you can have in your elections and making everything transparent. We just witnessed an amazing array of cameras, processes. He walked us through the whole process. The beautiful thing to me about what Clint has done is he has shown that there is no excuse for every rov, every election official in your state to implement a similar procedure and so we can actually secure our elections. And in Tim Kim’s, Kim’s whole message of taking our power back, that’s the key problem that we’re really facing.

What’s happened is our elections have become centrally controlled and the authority has been taken away from the local. Rob, what Clint has shown us, Clint Curtis, your rov, your election clerk, he’s shown that actually there are legal ways for you to take back local control, to have transparency, to make it so that every citizen can look at every ballot and do their own count. And so that restores trust, which should increase turnouts, actually, and it should increase participation. When the public can see, oh, I actually trust this. You don’t trust the machines, fine. You can see it on camera.

You can decide whether you trust them anymore. All this stuff has become transparent. So what’s so exciting to me about today is that we got to witness together with six candidates how this can be done and to show the whole state how it can be done. And over the next several weeks, we’re going to have several of these events throughout the state, and the candidates themselves are actually promoting it. So thank you, Clint, for leading the charge. We’re proud of you. And I. I go around the country. How am I am. You’re good. You’re good. I just wanted to say five of the candidates are standing here.

One is watching online. Something happened where he couldn’t be with us. And then we’ve got a couple that are paying attention online. Their hearts are with us. I’m not badmouthing the other guys. There’s 13 of them. They can’t all make it to every event. But we’re going to have multiple events, and I imagine there’ll be different groups of them everywhere. But what’s so exciting to me is they’ve taken up the mantle, they’ve taken up the charge. So this isn’t just, I’m running for governor, vote for me. It’s also, I understand that this is an issue, and I’m working with the other candidates, and we are all promoting this together.

That’s very exciting. We’re going to take our elections back. We’re going to bring them back to local control, and Clint is showing us how it’s perfectly legal. He’s already been scoured over by the state, and everything he’s doing is perfectly legal. What’s your excuse in your county? Why isn’t your ROV doing the same thing? And, you know, the excuse might be, well, it’s expensive or whatnot, but are your elections worth securing or not? We should never trade transparency and integrity for convenience or money. Our elections are our most important thing. Our ballots. Every ballot is paid for with blood.

Your constitutional voice is worth fighting for. It’s worth paying to have clean elections. So how about if I leave it there? And I’m happy to answer any questions anybody might want to have, but I’m proud of you. Shasta County I’m also proud to say I was conceived here. My parents were Shasta, just a college student. I feel like I’m coming back home. So I’m proud to go around the country telling everybody that this is where I was conceived, also where election entirety strategy was conceived. So well done. Fantastic. All right, next up, we’re going to bring in our first governor candidate and of course to say Kobe Marcum, thank you for standing in the gap.

Thank you for showing up. And I have to tell y’, all, do you know he took his motorcycle up here. Pretty nice ride. Kobe Marcum, over 500 miles. Come on in. Kobe, Marco. I want to thank all of you for being here today. Thank you for being concerned about election integrity. Thank you for educating yourselves about election integrity. Thank you for holding the ROV accountable, for filing the paperwork that they should file with the appropriate. Because all of this, it has nothing to do with political party affiliation. None of it. We all need election integrity because as each county has the legal right to manage their own elections because they can do this, there’s no reason for them not to do that.

And there may be a point in time where if election fraud is occurring in your favor, you may have less incentive to stop that election fraud. But what happens if the tables get flipped? What happens if the tables get flipped? Your party will never be back in power ever, in California without election integrity. My name is Kobe J. Marcum. Mar C U M Election integrity is my number one goal. If I were elected and I did only one thing and somebody saw me at a doctor’s game and said, I know what they mean. They mean election integrity because that is what impacts California when I’m 6ft underground.

When we’re all gone, we have to have election integrity so that every single person’s vote is counted. And I respect the vote. And I want everybody to know that if people the way that people vote, that they have the right to steer the way that the state is going, they have that right as Americans, citizens, as Californians. And we have to respect that. Thank you for your time today and I look forward to hearing from my fellow governor candidates and other California candidates. Kobe J. Maram, running for governor. Thank you. Thank you, Kobe. Thank you. Election report.

Perfect example. Next up is our governor candidate, Scott Shields. And he has a lovely wife, by the way. She. She’s back there. Stephanie. Love her. Scott, come on. Hello, everybody. Hey, Scott. I ditto everything he said. Nothing. Nothing I can add to that, except I had the pleasure of meeting Dr. Frank and Clint. What was it? A few months ago. And since then, I’ve done a little homework myself on this. In my press release in September, I said, election reform is what of the six issues. I agree with Kobe. It’s got to be up there near the top.

I’ve got a couple of mine are all kind of intertwined there. But you can’t win an election and you can’t change anything else without having election in the board. And I come from a technology background like Clinton, so I was able to understand him quite a bit. One of the things in 2018, I brought back the Bay Area to Florida Consumer protection software company. We solved the cryptography solution. And in the garage we said, well, how are we going to name this? What are we going to do? And vita was what we framed. Verifiability, integrity, transparency.

We heard those words today. And accountability. And that’s everything. And so when I learned more about what Clint and you were doing at a separate level away from software, identify what you’re doing is something that needs to be moved forward on scale. So how we do that and how we apply it to move it on scale in California, everybody’s got ideas on this. I’m going to prioritize it in a loud way. I think it’s a solution right now where people will say, well, it’s impossible to get to California and reach California. What’s the old saying, Doug? Everything’s possible, it may not be probable.

And definitely on the timetables. You have to set realistic timetables. I didn’t jump in. I apologize for Clint. I told him when I met him I was going to come up right away. I didn’t and there were reasons for that. I needed to do some more vetting on it. I can tell you I’m pretty good at betting this effort is worthy of every citizen in California to pay attention to. And if you’re a decision maker on any party or you’ve got the responsibility for free and fair elections in California, I’m going to hold you accountable. I think everybody else is going to do that, too.

I am one that loud. Like I said, intellectual arguments, they’re going to be a lot brighter on me in that I’m. I was never a politician. I haven’t studied them all. But I will bark and I will fight. And I will fight for you, Clint, and I will fight for you to get this passed through. My name is Scott Shields. Shieldsforgovernor.com I love everybody. It’s an I care campaign. Rich people, poor people, everybody. I care about everybody. It’s about solutions. This campaign is not going to be bought. It’s going to be who brings solutions to the table, People that are going to solve problems.

And that’s what I’m about. I’ve had great conversations with everybody behind me. That’s what they’re about, too. Very, very, very good group of people. So whoever you’re supporting, I think it’s good stuff. Thank you. Thank you. Love, Lewis. When we’re talking intelligence and bringing in the questions, let me tell you, he’s already thinking about what he’s going to say because he’s got a lot of research he’s done. That’s his background. Lewis Hearn. Lewis Hearn. Well, now I’m on an actual milk crate here, so I don’t know if I’ll start with my fellow Americans, but what I would say is we have to first and foremost understand that elections are the people’s election.

It’s not the party’s election. It should be absolutely blanketed, black, blacked out from the parties. The parties are not what’s important to you. What’s important is we the people are important. So the idea is you need to have the most transparent and effective elections in the world. We should be leading, leading the planet in elections. Not following. There should be zero questions of the integrity of elections. And therefore I pushed for a long time, as many of you know, I’ve even had some words that I would say we need to work on election without reform. There is zero integrity to the elections whatsoever.

And I’d like to thank Clint Curtis because I think he’s done a phenomenal job. It’s been the shot heard around the world, I think in Shasta, actually, of what, what let’s say the people of the county of Shasta have done in order to repair the elections. You’re on your way. I think there’s more work to be done, frankly. But if we’re going to have to have integrity, we have to have reform and we’re well on the way. So what we saw in there was a transparent system that is very important and that works. Now, why is this important to you? Well, it doesn’t matter what, whether you have a D, an R or an I next to your name, because I can tell you right now, based on conversations, based on audits and so on and so forth, there’s actually Republican elections that were stolen from Democrats, Democrats in this country now.

Right. It’s a fact. So this is not a political issue and we need to step outside of our political boxes and say we demand reform in this election. So I know these candidates on here. We’re working together, not separately. This is not a me issue. On an actual emergency election reform letter that we are presenting to the right people shortly. It’s going to work. It’s going to happen. We have to always remember it’s we the people first and only first. And you know, I really, really appreciate everybody that’s not only here, but people that are watching that have been in the fight.

I truly believe we the people are the plan and I’m starting to see it come to fruition. So God bless you. I’m so thankful of what’s going on here. My name is Lewis Herm. I’m running for governor and my website’s hermsmerckelling.com may I have some of that? Thank you. All right, next up is Leo Zaki. Leo. So face of the year, you know, every two of these candidates are super like their schedules are. The fact that they made it happen said something Lou says a lot about. Yeah, Zacky, thank you for. Thank you everybody for taking an interest in this today.

It’s a very important subject and it’s one of those that we can all say party lines has no place and it’s something that we can all use to coalesce to come together as we the people. You’ve done a fantastic job here. But this is how we get things moving in the right direction for all of us. We understand that discrepancies exist. They have been confirmed. This should be an alarming to all of us that they even exist. Put safety measures in place to ensure that we are all having our voices heard. Most importantly is paramount every single person in this state and in this country deserves to have their voice heard.

And when you have protocols in place to ensure the safety and security of your election, it will be heard. This state needs to have form in place. It needs to have its chain of custody’s place. And the issue is the current ruling elite that keep all of us down. Irrelevant of your party position or your party alignment. We learned today that for a piddly sum of $300,000 you could secure your elections here in Shasta county. And we can repeat that across the state for a small fraction of what our budget is. And it’s a one time purchase.

This can be done, but the people in power like the way things are because it keeps them in power and we are all suffering under their leadership. If you think your life is going well the way it is, I’m happy that you feel that way. But I think for the vast majority of Californians, we are all suffering under the current regimes. We need our voices heard. This gives us our power back. We are here today because we are taking our power back. Let’s make that a reality. Let’s come together. Let’s unite under the banner of doing this for everybody.

Right on. I’m Leo Zaki. I’m running for governor. You can go to leozaki.com and thank you again for taking your time being involved. Thank you, Leo. Thank you, Leo. Thank you, Leo. And next up, and he was going to have his tractor here today, just so you know. Love him. Is governor candidate David Cullenberg. Politicians, I’m not going to stand behind a podium. I’m going to talk to you guys directly. So the biggest issue I see, this is fantastic, but it’s people that are afraid to vote because they think it’s stolen. And it’s time that people get involved.

Come watch this stuff, come see it. And let’s restore that people’s. People actually get involved and think that their vote counts. These guys all said everything. That is amazing. I’m not going to repeat it, but I just want to say that let’s get out and vote. Let’s get out and check this out. This first time I’ve ever been to something like this, I came off the farm straight here into a voting thing. You guys can do it too. So thank you. Thank you very much. All right, and next up, I’m actually going to have Lyn Curtis come up first.

I’m going to have you come up. Clint. I want to acknowledge you and then I want you to acknowledge your warriors here. Can you do that? Is that possible? Eric came up from supervising candidates. Okay. You, can, you, can you introduce him? But that’s from out of area. They’re not, they’re not chefsignoni. They’re from out of area. Okay, so you guys are from out of area. Wanted to. You are. Bring him up. Well, how do I not know you? I don’t know. My name is Patrick Raus. Yes. Come on. Come on up, Patrick. It’s good to know you.

We are, we are inclusive. So I’m going to have you sit. Okay. It’s so good to meet you. Tell me your name one more time. Patrick M. Rakus Jr. Patrick, let’s give you a couple minutes. Good to meet you. Thank you everybody for inviting us out here today to go over the, the, the, the backside of the version voting. Right. To kind of give us an idea how it all works. Awesome. These guys have said it all, you know, as far as what we have to do, Converge said it’s best. We all have to go on both.

We have to make sure our vote counts. So like with your id, making sure that your balance it first. So don’t wait till last minute to vote. If you got the ballot, go vote that day because that helps, right? Because we always, as, as I’ve noticed the past, Republicans wait till the last minute and by then it’s too late. So in my opinion, that’s something we need to do. But when we do get into office, we need to go to paper ballots, vote on Tuesday, make it a holiday and voter ID and we’ll be good to go.

All right, Patrick M. Rus, Jr. California governor. Thank you. Thank you, Patrick. Thank you. And we’ve got somebody here who wants to be able to share. Yes, sure. Come on over real quick. And you’ve got to refresh me. I’m sleeping clip with me. Introducing you, Eric Stalter, candidate for Riverside county supervisor in District 5. Fantastic. Yes. What’s right over here? Okay. Well, I don’t, I don’t really have a lot to add. You know, I don’t like to cook above medium rare, so I’m, I’m gonna make it quick. But these guys all said it. You know, it’s, it’s not a party thing, it’s a people thing.

You know, let’s be responsible. Let’s make the systems work for us. And, you know, the registration of voters or the registrar of voters is controlled by the counties, all 54 counties in the state. So for more candidates like myself, more local candidates, along with our gubernatorial candidates, state legislators and others, all need to go through this because whether you agree or not, it’s information that can build upon what we’re doing and make election integrity a real thing, fair and free for all of us. So thank you all for allowing me to be here. Eric Stalter, Riverside county supervisor, District 5.

Thank you. Thank Eric. Thank you so much. And last but not least, we have a very special thank you. Don’t go anywhere, though. He has some announcements right afterwards. Clint, you are a warrior. Clint Curtis, ro, thank you for leading the. Thank everybody for coming. I hope everybody really takes this to heart and actually makes something happen. I’ve been working on this thing for 25 years and we know I’m stuck going to stop ask something I got rid of. Shoot. I got paper ballots down in Florida in 2004 and six months later they passed that. Well, we’ll take valves, but we’re going to spin them through a scanner, and you can’t count them by hand.

So there’s always going to be people that are trying to stop the people understanding the OCD election. With all these guys, I think we got a chance. We have some power here. So I thank everybody for showing up, and we’ll see if we get this done. Thank you so much. Honor. So I gotta tell you, this is pretty cool. So what we have here in this setup are we didn’t have a podium, but here’s what we did have. We had two milk crates and a black cover. Does it work? It works. It works for what we need to do.

All right, so I would love to say, first of all, thank you, all of you warriors of Shasta county for being here right now. For those of you that drove up across the state, thank you for being here. For. For those of you that are listening in online, who are committed to your vote and your voice being heard, thank you for being present with us right now. A big thank you to our governor candidates that are here. Bring the safety crowd in the crowd in the ground to take our California back. And a big thank you to all the people that you don’t see that are here, that are part of take our California back.

These are the leaders of leadership throughout the state who said, I’m in, I’m in all the way to the very end to take this beautiful state back and make it a God that gives us the strength every day to persevere, to be tenacious, and to remember that we run the race with perseverance marked out for us. We don’t just run a race to run, do we? We run a race to win. So let’s win. Alex Shasta is winning. Let’s support Shasta. Join us tonight. We have an incredible governor forum and debate tonight. You’re going to hear from the warriors on every area.

Can you imagine if there was transparency in every area and if there was a solution in every area? We’re going to show you how these candidates are committed to taking California back. So tonight, 6:00pm Is start time. I want y’ all to arrive at 5pm you’re gonna have the opportunity to ask your questions. We’re gonna have you write your questions down, make them legible, because Doug and I will be reading those questions. And then we’re gonna do the forum. That way we can make sure your voices are heard and they have an opportunity to bring it and respond.

So let me give you a B location real quick. So tonight we are at Faith Community Church. That is at 2570 South Bonnie U Road in ready. So that is at 6:00 clock tonight. My encouragement is be there at 5. Doors open at 5:30. Door. Oh thank you. All right, doors open 5:30. Corrected. Thank you. Doors open at 5:30 dot but make sure you’re in your fine so that you’re in line because you want to pull out those questions so that we get up. Doug and I can go through it real quick and then we can bring them to the table.

Now last but not least, I want to remind you what the Take our California Back movement is about. After 55 you wear some raiders. I got mine on. All right, here we go. So the Take our California Back movement is a faith inspired grassroots coalition empowering freedom loving Californians to reform and elections, demand transparent and secure voting, reclaim constitutional freedoms and revive our state’s future. Through God given potential, family values and a united action, we the people are taking our power back. Join us and join this movement. It is about all the of us. We need one another and it’s time for us to unite together.

Go to takeourcaliforniaback.com you want to see the lowdown of the interviews that have been done behind the scenes with the showdown? Go check it out. Take our californiaback.com and again, Clint Curtis, Shasta County. God bless you. Thank you so much. Amen. Thank you, Kim. Right, so separate from this and you guys that are filming right now, I would say keep filming. Governor Kennedy, anybody that would like to be a part of supporting Tina Peters who is a political prisoner right now. Now this is completely separate from Shasta. This is just what we’re doing. I’m pulling these Governor Kennedys.

Whoever wants to be a part of this can be be a part of this. Okay, we have a banner that Thomas put together. It’s a 50 foot banner that says tinapeters us. Now Tina Peters just had a court hearing yesterday. All right, I don’t know about you, I know that woman. I know her heart. And we know what she did was she took a stand. I stand for truth and she is that political prisoner. We’re saying no more. She needs to be released. That President Trump is for India his end. We all know that. And I do believe it’s going to happen.

We’re, we’re moments away. But let’s take a picture together and we’re going to send it to her to encourage her, to let her know we love her, we believe in her and we’re in the fight with her for election Transparency and election reform and the freedom. Okay. All right, let’s go. We’ll turn this way. Thank you, Tom. That’s for all you nuts. Everybody. Everybody gets to be a part of number. I met a gal about three years ago named Rachel Ham, running for secretary of state on the election integrity platform. I found the Marin County Election Integrity Committee.

Part of the area. Just a thought, guys. Just a thought. There’s two trees here. F it over there. You’re not going to have any obstruction on the side. Just go right there. Walk over this or walk around? No, just around. Walk around. You’re going to go at an angle. That’s what you want? No, the lighting’s actually pretty good. Well, the idea is to have it back there. I just think we have it wrong. So we. Let’s do it. I’ll do it. There you go, Lewis. We can see everybody. Not having a trouble with a lot of people.

Not really. Okay. There’s just not a lot of people. Did everybody. We can. Hey, who wants to join us? So for those of you who do not know Tina Peter as a political prisoner, she stood up for election report. She stood up for transparency, and they basically came and swat her for standing up for transparency. So the question is, what is Colorado hiding? Well, the proof that she has is the Rosette Stone of the election crime that my 2 appears needs to be released. All right, so on 3, let’s say free Tina Peters. 1, 2, 3.

Free Tina Peters. All right, do it now. Great job. Thank you. Wow. Are we going to roll it up now? We’re going to roll it up. I think so. I’ll probably take it to the Sundial Bridge. Now. They’re going to go to lunch. Do you want to eat, or do you want to just go over there and get it done? I want to go get it done and let’s do it. Don’t you think? Sure. Do you. Should we take both cars over there? You’re amazing. Bless you. Thank you. I need someone to take a picture across the street.

Yes. Charlie, can you go across the street, take a picture? I’ll take a picture. Well, wait, wait, Charlie. Oh, wait. Hold on, Charlie. I’m coming in. Douglas, march back that way. There we go. Nice and tight, sir. Yes, sir. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Awesome. Done. All right, have another one coming. I don’t know. They said another one. Tighten up, tighten it up. Suck your guts in. Thank you. All right, you guys, hang on, hang on, hang on. Let’s get. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let’s get it here. Okay. We’re live. This is Free Tina Peters.

Guys, checking out Free tina peters.us. okay, perfect. She is a star. We love you, Tina. We love you, Tina. All right. Fantastic. All right, guys. All right. We are gonna close it up. All right. So you got a good sense of what we’re doing with the Take Our California Back movement? Governor candidates, our leaders from across the state. We’re so grateful for every one of them, you that have stood in the gap right now with us. So I’ll see you tonight. We will be here, Same Place at 6pm we’re hoping that we’ve got good WI fi to make that happen.

If not, we’ll record. But I want you just to plan to be here. Same link. You can go to rumble.com take your Powerback show live. That’s rumble.com forward/take your Powerback show show forward slash live. That way you can see us live. So I’m standing for Election Transparency and election reform. We’re taking our California back. Boom, baby. Boom, baby. Boom. God bless you guys. I’ll see you tonight.
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