Remote Viewers: Philadelphia Experiment Alien Abduction and Future Events w/ the Rabbit Hole Group

➡ The text discusses a group called the Rabbit Hole Group from the Future Forecasters Group, who explore interesting anomalies and historical projects using remote viewing. They also warn about scams in gold IRAs and the importance of working with a trusted company in the precious metals space. The text also mentions a weekly show focused on human development and growth, and a peptide guide for weight loss and muscle preservation. Lastly, it introduces the Future Forecasters Group, who regularly share their findings and invite interested individuals to join them.
➡ A group of individuals with diverse backgrounds and interests have come together to explore the world’s mysteries through remote viewing, a psychic ability. They have been trained by experts, including former military personnel, and work on projects together. One of their projects involved investigating the Mothman, a paranormal being reportedly seen in the 70s. However, their findings suggest that the Mothman may not exist, as their data did not align with the popular legends and stories.
➡ This text discusses a viewer’s experience with the Mothman sightings in 1966 and the Philadelphia Experiment in 1943. The viewer is asked to ignore theories and focus on the actual events. The Philadelphia Experiment involved testing advanced electromagnetic technology on a naval ship, aiming for invisibility and possibly teleportation. The viewer suggests that we now have technology to access different dimensions and simulate these experiences, but it’s kept hidden due to power dynamics.
➡ The text discusses the fascinating concept of shared consciousness and telepathy, where a team of individuals can access the same data point without seeing each other’s sessions. This phenomenon, often referred to as the ‘hive mind connection’, is seen as a beautiful opportunity for shared consciousness, but also raises concerns about potential manipulation through technology. The text also mentions a project involving a woman named Deb Cabal, who had a series of abduction experiences in the 80s. The team remotely viewed a specific event in her life, providing validation for her experiences and leading to a discussion about the impact of such experiences on mental health.
➡ A woman shared her experience of hearing a voice and seeing an orb, which she believes is a form of communication from a parallel dimension. The group discussed various projects they’ve worked on, including remote viewing sessions about an alien interview and theories about the moon. They also mentioned a recent project about a future global event that could cause a major shift in human consciousness. The group is cautious about sharing this information as they don’t want to scare people, but they believe it’s important to explore these possibilities.
➡ The discussion revolves around the idea of advanced civilizations possibly communicating with us through satellites or portals. There’s speculation about the existence of an endless battery and the potential dangers of believing in psychic-related phenomena without solid evidence. The conversation also touches on the concept of the sun as an energy source in an electric universe, and the personal growth experienced through remote viewing. The group also mentions their upcoming project on a dramatic future event happening before 2030.
➡ The speaker is expressing admiration for the patience and skill involved in training people. They’re on a journey of exploration and learning, which they find exciting and unexpected. They mention a growing global interest in understanding the world around us, likening it to a collective consciousness movement. The speaker also discusses the concept of remote viewing as a way to communicate with universal consciousness, and mentions an upcoming project that will be available on a website soon.

Sa Sam what unfolded allegedly went for far beyond its intended scope, resulting in a complete optical invisibility teleportation to Norfolk and potential an accidental tear in the fabric time. I mean, it’s really, it’s the hive mind connection, right? And I don’t mean that with the negative connotation. I mean, I think it’s, I think there’s opportunities for shared consciousness which are absolutely beautiful. I think the technological aspect of that is the scary piece. I think naturally, I think we’re starting to see that with things like the telepathy tapes as well. Just a quick break from the program.

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And so they’re called the Rabbit Hole Group and they look at just various projects through history. Now they have a future one coming up and trying to learn more about it. And so we picked three today to talk about and one is Mothman. Who the heck is Mothman? They’re going to explain what that is. And that one I want to talk about because it was just a weird anomaly and they don’t think it’s real. And so they’re going to talk about what they found that gave them indication that this isn’t really real. And then we talk about the Philadelphia experiment.

That’s that in the. I think it was in 1944, time frame the 1940s. The Navy did an experiment on time shifting and Tesla technology and what they found in portals. And I asked them what does it mean if they were this advanced back in the 40s, almost 80 some five years ago, you know, what, what does that mean to what technology we have now? And you know, do we just ponder some of these big questions and we, we get into more than just some of their. The rabbit hole groups. We get into other projects that they personally looked at that they thought was absolutely phenomenal and interesting.

We also had this experience with Deb Cabal. She was supposedly abducted by aliens. And did that really happen? And what is it? And we had a look at many different projects, but then we also talked about what remote viewing was. And then I into my own. I got into my own thoughts on it. So you might find that interesting as well. But this is a fun episode. I’m going to be doing once a week. I’m going to be doing a program because I’m in the business, business and finance and, and hardcore, you know, military and government stuff.

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It’s just absolutely incredible. You can get the peptide guide@sarawestall.substack.com I’ll have a link to that below. Okay. If you are interested in learning more about the future forecasters group that we are going to be talking to, I have their website below. They’re constantly putting out sessions on what they find. If you are interested in that stuff it’s. I am. So I think it’s absolutely fantastic. And if you’re Interested go to futureforecastersgroup.com and I will have the link below as well. Okay, let’s get into this fantastic conversation. Hi everybody. Welcome back to the program. Thanks for having us.

Sarah. Great to be here. Well, we have the Rabbit Hole group from Forest for the future forecasters group and I’m excited to have you because you do things a little different. You work with dads who I work with on some stuff he’s, he’s instructing. I call him in my master pole because I’m taking this remote viewing class with him. But you guys are working on the, called the Rabbit Hole group. So he’s finding the coolest projects the, the stuff he really wants to know in for that you guys. Yeah. And then having you guys task it.

He thinks he hasn’t been tasked that he really wants somebody to do that he’s always been interested in. And as a consequence, it’s just incredibly cool things that you guys are working on. And. But before we get into that, can you quickly discuss or just somebody take the lead? Dennis take the lead or somebody else that we discuss. Dennis would. On who all of you are, and then we will dive into this. Yeah, absolutely. I can start off. My name is Dennis Nappy ii. I’m an author, I’m a podcaster, and I’m connected with the Future Forecasting Group during my evening hours, where I work with remote viewers.

Really, I started out just debriefing them and their work. They hired me as the host of our program to do some analysis and really just have some conversation around remote viewing and the projects that they’re working, ranging from cryptocurrency, the future of the economy, to the mystery targets. You know, my background, I come from a military. Military intelligence background to law enforcement, to education. I’ve kind of been all over the place, but I’ve always had an interest in things remote viewing. And Daz offered to train me. I think we’re going on five or six years ago now.

And I’ve always had an interest in all things supernatural, paranormal. And, you know, as a remote viewer, you have this great ability, but because of front loading, you can’t task yourself because now your imagination is going to get in. It’s going to be so foggy. So Daz has built this team. He started, you know, pulling us in one at a time. We had this hellfire group that we were doing just for fun, working these mystery targets. And then he created this opportunity where those things that we all have interest in looking at. Daz now puts together these wonderful projects and.

And we’re just exploring, really, a lot of the world’s mysteries together as a team. And it’s been a fascinating experience each month with the projects we put together. Well, what I find interesting is you have a military intelligence background. In that time that you were doing intelligence, did you run into anybody that actually did this seriously for the military? I was. I was a kid. I was in my early 20s, and I had read the remote viewing had just come out. I think it declassified 95, 97. So this is 98, 99, 2000. I was deployed. So I had it in my mind I was always looking out for someone to just drop something.

But back then, you can’t be like, hey, where are the psychic spies at? Because most people would just be like, you’re nuts. And so, no, officially I didn’t. It’s. It’s ironic that I ended up all these years later connected with the remote viewing team doing remote viewing work. But my goal was to find them in the military. I never did. We know they’re in there, right? We all know. Yes, I’m sure. Yeah, but they, you know, the group that taught us were declassified in 95. So for instance, I found Lynn Buchanan, who was the trainer for the military in 98.

I found him. Did he train you? How did. Let’s finish introducing everybody. So who, who. Go ahead, Cora, why don’t you? So I, I finally, I was a practice. I was a shaman and a precognitive dreamer and I was looking for. I just got the Internet and I was looking for something to take that ahead because I was vision quest thing. And I found Lynn Buchanan, like by mistake almost. And I flew to America from Italy and I went into training with him. I started in 98. I finished advanced in 2001. And then I did professional training much, much late and became a professional Viewer in about 2015.

It’s just so fascinating. You were a shaman, you were trained by the, some of the regional military people. It just, it’s really fascinating. Yeah. And I started working with Daz in, in a group because, you know, it’s a group thing, remote viewing. You need somebody to task you, you need to work together because everybody brings a little bit of the same thing. I started working with Daz in a group in 2009. So we go back a long way. That’s fascinating. Okay, who wants to go next? I can go. Well, I started to learn remote viewing about six years ago, so excuse my English is not perfect.

By far is not perfect. We love it. It’s good now and, and in between here and now. And then Daz invited me to be in his class and it was the most amazing thing that ever happened to me. So at least that’s where I sensed came from. Let’s say I have big problems on consciousness and I was having big questions on consciousness. And that’s why I started to look for everything that involved that. And that gave me some background in, in, in kind of science of this. And then I started to look for remote viewing and so on.

So that’s me. And then last but not least. Okay, I’m Susan. I’ve always been interested in things to do with consciousness. I have a huge interest in dreaming and pre cognitive dreaming. Remote viewing. About five years ago, I initially started with Lori Williams, who’s Lyn Buchanan’s student And Pam Coronado. And then most recently the last few years, I’ve been working with Daz, which is how I find myself here. And it’s just great to work as part of a group consistently. Which one of you are. Is an MD or No, Jimmy, I’m, I’m. I’m a specialist in nuclear medicine and the homeopath.

Okay, okay. Okay. It’s just so interesting because we have such a broad base of people coming from all different walks of life. It’s just really interesting. Okay. Because we have very different day jobs. I mean, I work as a movement and art therapist in my day job and I’ve worked in advertising and before that I was a photographer. I used to be a press photographer. What she does in her day job. What do you do? No, no, I come from a performance background, so we’ve done theater and had theaters and produced and stuff like that. But it’s just.

It’s always fascinating to hear what people do because it come. People come from all walks of life that are working on this and, and diving in because they’re realizing that they might have. Everybody has a little bit of a psychic ability and they want to help direct it and understand it. And remote viewing is such a great way to, to learn and to understand what it is that we are. I think, I think it’s a therapeutic process. It has been for me. But I want to get into some of these topics. One thing that you looked at was the Mothman.

Can you tell me somebody wants to take the lead on what the heck the Mothman is for? People who don’t know what it is. And then we’re going to talk about what you found. Which people? The Mothman. The Mothman. There was a movie with Richard Gere. It came out, I guess the early 2000s. I don’t remember the year that. Do you remember the year that this Mothman sighting was. Was the 70s. It was in, in Point Pleasant, I think Wisconsin. I, I might get the state wrong. But anyway, they were. There was someone seeing these apparitions of this really tall spiritual being with these glowing red eyes and these wings.

And they came to call it the Mothman. And at the same time there was a. Like right after these appearances were happening, there was a major bridge collapse with a lot of people died. And I think there was some kind of correlation between these sightings of this paranormal being and, and the collapse of the bridge. So Daz put a project together for us to work this to, to identify and describe this Mothman. And we got anything but we didn’t, we didn’t Mothman at all, which was quite the anomaly for any kind of consistency. Loosely, but not really.

Correct me if I’m wrong, I, I mean, I think some of us may have drawn like a weird looking being, but then the. I think the underlying theme of that was that it was imaginary. You know, the. Corey Slenderman. Yeah. Yes, I wrote the Slender Man. Yeah. Which is an invented being. Well, you know, I did some research because there’s been a few projects here and there where people don’t get anything. And I tasked somebody, I tasked the future forecasters to do a task for me that was. I know I did a lot of research, so I know there’s some significant stuff behind it and they were struggling to get details on it.

And so then I started doing some more research on why. And actually they, they, they felt like they didn’t get enough. And I, Some of the stuff they got was absolutely amazing because it correlated to everything else that I was seeing. But they felt, they didn’t, they didn’t feel like they got everything they wanted to. And so then I started digging into it and I, My research was is that some target have a block. Like, and I don’t know if Mothman has a block, but some of the more really, really sensitive targets actually may have a block on it.

And there’s a way to block out that. Have you heard of anything like that? HRvg Dick’s talked about it in some of our conversations. Yeah. There’s some procedures and techniques you can go into to create a mask. I, I think some viewers who are really good can bypass those masks as well. But from what I understand, there are some masking. I don’t think that’s what happened with, with Mothman. I think what happened with Mothman, I, I honestly, I think that it doesn’t exist. I think that it’s, it’s fictitious. And the way Daz worded the tasking, because sometimes you’ll get the story right if you don’t, if you’re not careful with your tasking.

If, if he didn’t put a caveat in it because he says, we will ignore all my legends and focus on the truth and the facts only. We got nothing. So we all went off in our own directions. And I mean, I had an awesome session that I think was, I think I was looking at myself. It was really, really cool. Yeah. Yeah. But I, I don’t think that the Mothman, based on our data, you know, and it’s, it’s just, you know, A couple sessions, one project among us. And there’s a chance we were just off, you know, and we.

For whatever reason, you’re not off altogether. Unless the tasker was a little off somehow. Right. And the tasking was solid on this one. The tasker was. Was saying really, really clear. Well, it was called some certain numbers. The Mothman Point Pleasant, USA November 15, 1966 onwards. The viewer is to move to the optimum position, location and time and to sketch and describe the thing and identify it as Mothman by the witnesses in November 1966. The viewer is to ignore all theories, fictional social constructs, and to only. And this is highlighted sketch and describe the actual thing.

And you can understand seen by these witnesses. So yes, that’s it. So the. And it just shows that there are things that are made up, right? I mean, why do you think they made this up? Now that you. In hindsight, I have two points to say at this one. I recall that Daz and Dick worked at some point for Courtney Brown and they felt blocked in the middle of session. They tried everything and Courtney Brown bring back something like cast of a spell or something like this. And after that, both of them have target data and so on.

And that’s very interesting too. And that’s other talk, of course, with Daz and Dick all together. They had a target where they were specifically blocked. So they remember doing exactly. They felt like they were black. They didn’t know they were black blocked. And Corne Brown didn’t block them. It was happening as like they were blocked. And then Courtney do something. I don’t know exactly what he did. And they could work on. On the. On the end of the session really well. And gave back data from. From this. And the second point, I. I completely forgot it, which I’ll think about.

Well, you have. That’s okay. You have another task that was incredibly interesting. The Navy Philadelphia Experiment. Can somebody explain what that experiment was and then what we can get into what you found? Somebody want to take that one? Yeah. Well, might as well give a military background. Anybody else. Anybody can take it? Whoever wants to take it. Is it. First of all, is it pretty known in the military? I mean, people talk about it. Is it something that. Remote viewing? No. The Philadelphia Experiment. Is that something? No, that was all. I mean, I got out. I got out in 2003, so it’s a different military now.

But back then, no, you didn’t talk about the paranormal stuff, the milk, you know, all that stuff that was. I kept that really close to the vest. Just afraid I was afraid of, you know, losing your security clearance, being looked at as unstable. So I think now you could probably get away with having those conversations because it’s, it’s, you know, really, you probably could have in the 70s and 80s too. Yeah. The dark period is the 90s and 2000s, probably. Yeah, yeah. Where you’re really not just not something you’re considered a weirdo. People didn’t know, have open minds.

I think a lot of us did because of things like the X Files and those kinds of shows. I mean, that really drove me and opened my mind a lot. But I think publicly you were still afraid to, to talk about it and really explore it. Well, now there’s other things that people are afraid of. It’s really too bad now with the censorship, people are just simply afraid to be who they are. And we got to overcome some of that. Now that’s the chilling effect of having people be afraid to talk about things. But the Philadelphia Experiment was an incredible experiment.

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So the USS Eldridge, United States Navy’s Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania around 28th of October 1943. The viewer is to move to the USS Eldridge during the time period or allowing the slippage before or after the target time to move to the optimum date, to the location and to the day to sketch and describe the full detail. Of the target and events that may indicate that a Philadelphia experiment it happened. The viewer is to disregard, construct, meet or any other. Any other ideas on our. Or whatever. So reports suggest that in October 1943, the US Navy tested advanced electromagnetic technology on the USS Eldridge in an effort to achieve rather invisibility.

What unfolded allegedly went far beyond its intended scope, resulting in a complete optical invisibility teleportation to Norfolk and potential an accidental tear in the fabric time. And the main goals of Philadepy experiment were to make naval ships invisible to enemy to use advanced electromagnetic technology. And some versions claimed that it was directing to teleportation or instantaneous movement of ships. So that’s it. Okay, so it was a very advanced science experiment for portals and time, space continuum and all these things. What did you find in your remote viewing session? Does anybody want to start? I think that the data was so.

Some of it was so technical. It was looking at things, if memory serves, a lot of Tesla type of technology. It seemed like large pillars and coils and things and electromagnetic radiation, time slippage, you know, a lot of really advanced techie stuff that almost seemed magical. I think it was so, so advanced. I mean, nobody, nobody picked up on anything mundane for sure. It definitely seemed like there was an advanced technology working with this ship during that time. There’s reports of people being caught in. In walls and stuff. Like they went to another time period and then came back and were so stuck in the middle of a ship wall because, you know, the ship moved and they didn’t move with it, that kind of stuff.

Did you get any of those weird anomalies? Yeah, some of us had. I, I got to look back through my, my specific data on that one. But I know some, some of the other team members had some things, just weird things about the people and, and the feedback on it too. If you really dive into it, there’s like. It almost seems like the guy was, was the. One of the people was slipping through time and having conversations with interdimensionals. I mean, it sounds really weird and wild, but the, the more we’re moving forward on this timeline, the closer to reality.

I think a lot of these things are getting. And we had elements of, of a lot of those pieces there. Wow. So when you look at that particular session and, and you think about the fact that it happened how many years ago now? Like 85 years ago. What, what do you think is the reality now of our technology? That’s a big question. And I, I think that. I think that we’re stepping into that new reality very quickly. I suspect that there’s many dimensions that we have access to now in terms of time, space, consciousness, our awareness and higher intelligences, which I think has been known for a very long time.

But I think we now have technology to. To access that. And I also think we have technology to simulate that, which I think are two different things to give the perception of that’s what’s happening. So why do you think that the average person doesn’t have access to it it still. Or do you think that part of our future is they’re warming us up for that? That’s a big question. I know I, I got to ask the big questions. But it’s true. It’s like, why would they hide it for that long and. And are they not beginning to disclose it? Maybe it’s been militarized.

Isn’t it’s about power? You know, you keep the technology to yourself. You have the power. But I’m absolutely convinced we have that technology. And what made you this? Was this remote viewing session something that convinced you? Or have you seen more than what than this one experiment? Oh, we see stuff all the time. I mean, I’m absolutely fascinated by the tech. I keep going to like, flying vehicles. And I’m not, I’m convinced that not all of them are from other life forms, that some of them are ours. And I keep going to. In any session where you find them, I keep going to them and going, wow, what’s the stuff? What’s this magnetism? It’s like sheeny, it’s glossy.

The energy in it. It’s fascinating when you’re remote viewing, but it’s definitely around. It’s. It’s tough to. It’s tough to describe sometimes too, because I feel that. I feel that collectively as a team, you know, we’re. We’re falling more and more into sync with one another, which has its own effects in just your understanding of reality and how we’re accessing a similar data point when we’re all blind, we don’t see each other’s sessions. I mean, that’s a lot to wrap your. Isn’t that amazing the fact that you can even be on the same thing as four different people task getting a freaking number that shouldn’t mean anything but.

And that’s the, that’s the hive. I mean, it’s really. It’s the hive mind connection. Right. And I don’t mean that with the negative connotation. I mean, I think it’s. I think there’s opportunities for shared consciousness, which are absolutely beautiful. I think the technological aspect of that is the scary piece. I think naturally, I think we’re starting to see that with things like the telepathy tapes as well and projects like this. It’s there and it’s available to us to gather information and to share information with one another. But then you get the technological aspect, and I feel that that leads us into manipulation and some of these lessons, because there’s, there’s so many.

I mean, I’m sure all of us could talk for hours about the spiritual lessons we’ve gone through and things we’ve learned from these projects, from these projects alone over the last couple of months, let alone our entire lives. And. But that feels like a natural progression of following some kind of thread I think that’s been pulling us through as we’re unpacking a bigger mystery. I think a lot of these targets have threads in common that, that’s, this is my theory, but that we’re piecing together. But when you start putting technology and it’s no different than these algorithms that are driving your social media, pointing you in a certain direction of thought, reading your mind.

Yeah. What do you, what do you say to the people that say that this is just hogwash and what are we smoking? And you know what I mean, they just sounds like you guys just got done smoking something. Let them try them by themselves. Let them try it. Read the, the research is there from, from credible places. And, and through my work with future forecasters, we put our money where our mouth is and, and the data is there. I mean, they publish for years. They’ve been publishing the news before it happens. You know, they’ve been publishing things they have no way of knowing.

Everything’s time stamped, everything’s verifiable. So I can say with confidence this is a real thing. There’s good research out there. So if you’re just going to dismiss it like that, then I’d say you’re not. You’re not really paying attention. You’re not, you’re not as serious. Confirming your own bias. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn’t mean we’re right all the time. We’re not right all the time. But I think it’s amazing that of the, the millions of things that you can target somebody, let’s say you’re going to be targeting Mars. The fact that, like, if we had four of you or five of you targeting Mars, that you’d all come back with something about Mars, the possibility of that happening is zero.

If this wasn’t real. I mean, is absolutely zero. It’s very small. Yeah. I don’t think it’s above zero because there’s millions of other targets that you could have target you know, you could have talked about. But the fact that. And we’re blind. We don’t. No idea what we’re looking at that. Except for a digit coordinate. Yeah. But you know, on that Mars thing, I think every single one of us wrote on our paper at some stage, this is Mars. It’s. Yeah. We all did it. And all we had was a number. I know. That’s what I’m saying.

It’s. That’s virtually impossible for that to happen. Of all the different, you know, things that you could be tasked and significant because whether. Whether the data we brought back on Mars is accurate or not, which we don’t have. We won’t have feedback. Hopefully we will get feedback on our lifetime. Whether it’s accurate or not. There’s proven telepathic communication because we’re all telling the same story. And that. That in and of itself is amazing. The fact that we can all tell the same story all at different parts of the planet, blind to this target and we’re all bringing back the same thing.

So whether the story is accurate or not, you know, we haven’t proven that yet. But regardless, it’s an amazing thing to be a part of. It means that somehow we’re all connected. So there’s another target that you looked at was. Which is Deb Cabal. Could somebody explain who the heck Deb Cabal is? And then let’s. Than what you guys found. Go ahead, Dash. Dash connected with Deb and she. The. Back in the 80s, she had a series of abduction experiences and she was working with. His names escaped me right now, but he was one of the preliminary predominant UFOs researchers back in the day.

Bud Hopkins. Thank you, Demi. And they did a miniseries called the Intruders. I remember watching this as a kid and I was so afraid of these scenes and dazzling. Daz and Deb put a project together where the team went to a specific evening, a specific event in her home where these beings came into her room and presented her with. It was a box. Right. And some kind of black, mysterious box. And the team brought back. We had this division of works. We all had different pieces of it, but I think all three of you had elements of this box.

And what was. What was in it was just. Just incredible. What. What wasn’t. Susan, let’s have you talk because you haven’t talked much. What was what did you find in your box? In the box? Not your box, that box. Actually, with this target. I actually went to the wrong target. It was something they. She. They discussed as they were creating the tasking. Initially, she wanted to do an instance she had, I think was in 1983, where she was subjected to some kind of energy or maybe an abduction event that she experienced at her house. And then working, I think, with.

Is it Bud Hoskins, the guy, she recovered the experience or the memory started coming back. So instead of going to the episode with the box, I actually went through the experience of being, like, in this backyard and seeing these little beings hovering and being hit by this white radiant energy, and then feeling like I was losing consciousness and the idea of adjusted memory or manipulated memory. And then I actually felt like I had post traumatic stress disorder, which she actually said she got diagnosed with. So I went through that scenario and completely missed the box. But the other guy’s got the box.

But. But, yeah, we got. But when you felt. We also went through that, too. You went. But, you know, understand. Going through and understanding her post traumatic stress situation, did that give you a different appreciation for. Did you, like. Did you ever have an experience like that in your past and did it teach you a new experience that you didn’t personally have? I haven’t had it. Like, I was experiencing it, and as I was experiencing it, I was just, like, intrigued by it, and I was kind of writing down what I was feeling and kind of going, I feel like I’ve got ptsd.

And I felt like I needed to recover, and I felt like I’d undergone some experience that was deeply traumatizing, and it was affecting my mental health, and. And she actually had to go through a recovery, and she said she actually changed after this experience. It was almost like a death and a, you know, and a rebirth. I think that’s what Deb said to us. So it was fascinating. But I hadn’t personally experienced that, but within the session, I felt like I was experiencing that. So I was just recording what I was observing. Wow. And it seemed to be meaningful to her when we talked to her.

So. Well. And so when you. You. You all had an opportunity to talk to her after you did this. These sessions? Yes, we did our sessions for her. We went through them with her, and it was extraordinary. It. What did she say then? I mean, what was the dialogue like with her? I was amazing that she was kind of confirming as we were going through it. She’s going, oh, my God. Oh, my God. And she was Adding bits to it. And, you know, she said it was validating for her. Yes, validating a lot of that. She also said that she’s more happy that she had had this experience in her life than before.

So that was really weird. But she says she was evol since then, very, very much, and she wouldn’t give that experience for anything in the world away. And. And why is that? Because it was such a unique. It opened her eyes to a whole new understanding of the world. Exactly. Exactly. That, yeah. She said something that really stuck with me. I. I had a chance to interview her on the podcast after the session, and she was telling me that one day she was walking out front of her house and she heard a voice call to her.

She had her earpods. Earbuds. And she took them out. Turn around. There’s no one behind her. And she heard it again. And she sees, like, this orb. And it. It spoke to her and it said, you know, this is how we see you when you’re in our world. Meaning she looks like an orb when she’s in that dimension. And he’s saying, I’m just like you. And she goes, really? Tell me more. And then the voice blinked out. But it made so much sense. We see these orbs travel through every. So she sees a lot of orbs.

She was showing me some videos and stuff of orbs. And it makes you wonder when we see these orbs coming through in these different experiences, are they remote viewers? Are they people having a, you know, a psychic viewing of our experience and floating around, and we’re able to perceive them that way? And that’s what he was saying, how he sees people from our world going into his. But it just sounded like she was in communication with the parallel dimension. I suspect these encounters that she had with the box and with the beings opens you up to be able to perceive those other frequencies that are all around us.

Is there any other project that you dug into that people would find really, really fascinating or that you found really, really fascinating that you would like to share? Anybody? I’ll default to you guys. First, I have a teaser that I can put out there, but if there’s anything anybody wants to share. You know, we’ve been. We’ve been working together for. For a long time because before we formed the Rabbit Hole Group, we’ve been working together Hellfire. And then we’ve also even done. Do you remember that. That remote viewing we did about the alien interview as well that, you know, I was reminded of that.

Can somebody help me with names? Because I’m not good. But we were asked to remote view if it had been real. Is it the nurse? Was it the nurse and Roswell that did the. Interviewed the alien supposedly in Roswell. What, there’s actually footage of an alien interview? Yeah. Oh, I didn’t work for that one. But. But is that the one that you’re talking about? I think so. There’s actually a footage, isn’t there, this. Yes. We were. We’ve sent to view the footage and to say what happened, what was happening at the time, so that if it was something that was set up, like production and actors and all that sort of thing.

So it was to. To. To go to the time of the filming this poor sick alien. Oh, yeah, it was. It was so sad. And. And then, you know, when you actually get people who’ve been involved in some way who know more than you, and then they say, for example, I was saying, you know, there’s guys with robes, with thick woolen robes here in the room. And the interviewer said, you know, it’s not out here, but they had monks there who were doing telepathy with the alien. Right. So it wasn’t something that could have been known.

But I described the, you know, the, the robes. So that was definitely. It was very sad. Poor creature. Did. Did anybody do a remote viewing session of our landing on the moon? You know, or. Some people talk about it being faked the. And filmed. Did. Did you ever do a session on that? Have any of us done it? I haven’t done it. It. I might have done it in training, but it was. I was too new to really dive into that target. So I don’t think I’ve actually looked at. At that one. I’d like to know.

I mean, there’s been so many information about it. It’s. It’d be interesting to hear what remote viewers say about it. We’ve looked at the future forecasters. I did. I did debrief a target years ago and, and forgive me, I don’t remember all the details, but I think Daz had it inspired by some of Ingo Swan’s work in. In his book, I think Penetration. I think they got some weird stuff like there’s something going on on the moon. I think we were describing some weird things. It’s been a few years. I’ll see if I can dig it up in the archives and send you the links for it.

Yeah, I’d be interested because my understanding is there’s things going on on the moon and they don’t want us There, that’s what I would. What Ingo’s book talks about is he did this. These experiences where. It’s a fascinating book. Basically, there’s an offensive and a defensive psychic network. This sounds really strange, but like psychic beings on the moon, some of them are projecting things to us that they want us to be aware of. And then the other half is like protecting what’s going on up there on the moon. Yeah, that we did. There was. And there’s some kind of box with this technology up there.

I’m remembering I might even work this one. Really fascinating things that. That some of the remote viewers have found on there. Some people say the moon was. This is one of the theories that people say is that we used to have an old human civilization on Mars. And then when Mars was destroyed, either through our, you know, a cataclysm with maybe another solar system coming through or with a nuclear war, there’s two theories that. But regardless, they had to abandon Mars and they went to Earth and to create the atmosphere and Earth, they had to put the Moon there, which stabilized the Earth’s atmosphere.

That’s a theory. No, I don’t know if it’s true or not. There’s a lot of compelling pieces to that, though. So, I mean, just the size of the moon, where it’s at its location, the fact that it, you know, when NASA hit it with a bomb, it rang like a bell for two hours. I mean, there’s a lot of anomalies on the moon where it seems like it was perfectly placed there, you know, and then you listen to, I think, the terror papers, Robert Morning Sky 12 Wealth Planet stuff coming from Sitchin. There’s a lot of accounts of, like, this giant craft coming in, causing these cataclysms, restructuring things and putting that moon in place.

I can’t say for sure if that’s it or not, but it’s. It makes a pretty good argument that it’s a possibility. For sure. Yeah. It’s weird when you start diving into some of these things. What other projects do you want to share? We. We just finished. And I can only give a teaser on this because it hasn’t been released yet, but we just finished a project looking at what Dad’s labeled it as the near future event. Near future global catastrophic event. I want to preface this by saying none of us like the fear aspect. We don’t like to scare people.

We try to be very cautious on these. But sometimes you get these targets as a remote viewer. And I know for me, this has set me on One of those download spiral journey like information’s coming to me and you’re trying to process because the target was so profound for, for us at least I know for me. I don’t want to speak for everybody else. Where we’re looking at. I had a major shift in human consciousness because of something that appears up in the sky. Some kind of event, energetic event that affects human consciousness. That could be.

Well, oh, gosh. So future forecasters just, Just worked Atlas. Oh, they did? Okay, that’s out there. I, I think that’s been released. But there’s other groups out there as well that have worked it. And from what I’m gathering within the remote viewing community, a lot of teams are getting a craft or some kind of intelligence. I, I haven’t seen many people just get a comment or if it’s a comet, there’s something funny about it and intelligence now, is it? Some people say it was some. It was an intelligence that sent it. Supposedly. This is what I read.

It’s supposedly targeted to go to Mars. But if we had civilization on Mars, then it was targeted. It was sent so long ago that when it was sent, we still had a civilization on Mars. Yes, yes. Which makes perfect sense. There’s a guy out of Harvard and he’s, he’s saying this is anomalous because it’s going past Mars, Jupiter, and I think one other planet. And he says the chances of it getting within the proximity of those three planets, plus the fact that the tail, like the light that usually comes from the tail, is actually glowing from the front end of it, not the back end of it, which is abnormal, which is not impossible.

They said it’s right. And I don’t know, I’m not a ship kind of thing, but I wonder if they’re still communicating with whatever source, you know, and somebody else said to me, sarah, why would they if they’re so advanced? But maybe they were like us now, you know, they weren’t that advanced when they sent it. But if, If a species was that advanced, then why wouldn’t they just use a portal or something like. Because we do know that. That portals are starting to be like something we can. I was just gonna say that. But if it was a civilization that figured out how to do create an endless battery or something, and they put a satellite out there before they were able to develop some of these more advanced technologies.

So maybe it’s a remnant thing. I don’t know. It’s a fun thought experiment. Yeah. But then there’s. There were people at. I Don’t know. Some people were talking. Some of the globalist elite types are talking about. Some of the scientists were talking about it being their messiah is coming in. I just. Which is a dangerous game actually. We’re saying stuff like that and I. I think we need to be cautious. I’m sorry to me, real quick. We just need to be cautious with these things because it’s fun to look at. It’s spiritual. It could be this, it could be that.

But like Heaven’s Gate believed that the comet was, you know, going to take them up into space and then we had. How many people commit suicide. Yeah. Because of a belief in something psychic related. So unless we get better data of pictures and things, I’d say right now it’s entertainment, you know, and if we start to find more feedback, then maybe we’ll. We can revisit. Well, I don’t. I don’t think it’s the whole messiah thing. I mean, for those of us, those out there that. Actually I’m not in that camp because I brought it up because it’s so out there.

I don’t think that’s a healthy. Like you were saying, it’s like, come on people. You guys are really jumping the sharks. Dark. Yeah, but it sells. Go ahead, Demi. You must think of what’s called the second or the first one. It was called. When it approached the sun, it had like an acceleration and stand is still don’t know what was there. So we don’t know for this also. And it. Not necessarily something bad. Maybe it’s just passing, seeing, photographing and go away. I don’t know. Maybe it’s just that like. Oh, Momo. Yeah. But there’s so much we don’t know.

Might have been taking energy off the sun. I remote viewed it and I think it’s possible here too. Okay, well, isn’t there an idea that the sun isn’t really hot? It’s. If it’s an electric universe. It’s not. It. It can. You can actually go to the sun, take energy from it. I mean there’s two trains of thought. I’m not saying one or the other. I’m just that the sun. If it’s an electric plasma type thing, it. There’s a theory out there that it’s not really. It’s not hot. I don’t know if it’s radiate. I mean if we’re getting burned from radiation, that wouldn’t necessarily be heat.

Heat that would just be exposure to things that our bodies aren’t equipped to. To Handle Right. And we perceive it as heat. So that would make sense with the right shielding. But yeah, I’m not scientific enough to know. But it’s. I don’t, I don’t know either. But the electric universe guys are, I’ve had on my show in the past are like theoretically, it’s not if their theories of the electric universe are accurate. Yeah. So every now and again. Yeah, every now and again I use clay in my remote viewing and I do a 3D model and when I remote viewed that, I actually made a model of a humanoid form holding a ball of plasma.

How cool is that? That was a moa mua coral that you looked at. Wow. Yeah. So you’re, you’re the future forecasters group or you guys are. Or the, the rabbit hole group with the future forecasters group is putting out a thing on a future cataclysm or future event wouldn’t be cataclysm because that’s like the end of the world kind of, but just a future event that’s very dramatic that’s going to happen before the year 2030. That has a lot of energy that’s involved. Where can people go to see that and learn more about it? Our current website is futureforecastinggroup.com we are in the process of shifting over.

I’ll email you the new website. I don’t, I don’t know just yet, but I’m sure if you go to the futureforecastinggroup.com it’ll bounce you over to the new site once it’s up. I’m not sure when it’s going to be live. It should be very soon though. But futureforecastinggroup.com should get you there. That is so, so fun. I know my daughter, I, my daughter is seeing what I’m doing and she wants to train. So she’s going to be training with Naim and it’s starting. Yeah, it’s going to be starting really quick here. So she’s excited about it.

Amazing. Yeah, yeah, he’s an excellent teacher. I think she has a lot of. I think she has some talent. So we’ll see how that goes. And I think for her it’s just learning just like anybody else where you’re starting to learn about the. This stuff. I think you learn a lot about yourself because you can’t. Like for me, I’m kind of a perfection. Like when I do, I have to do a good job at stuff. And so I, and I had to let that go. And, and so it, it’s been a. It’s taken literally months upon months before I’m like, okay, I’m just going to let it go.

And it actually helped me, talking to Daz when he said that he had a period of time for four months that he just couldn’t see at all. Six months, he couldn’t do anything. And that actually helped me understand, you know, that helped me. It’s like, okay, I don’t have to be perfect and. But the not needing to be perfect makes you better, right? It. It does. And I think that dichotomy, the. The go ahead. I think that’s what separates people who just dabble in it, to want to see if they can do it. It to the people who are on the path.

Right. We push through that moment of like, I can’t hit anything. And I go. I go through those phases. You know, it’s. It’s. It’s been described to me as a mental martial art, you know, And Daz uses like, the Jedi analogy. Not that I think I’m a Jedi, but it’s a really good metaphor. I mean, you’re really going through this discipline that brings a profound change in how you think, how you pay attention to yourself, how you view the world, how you experience the world, you know, and the longer you stick with it, you know, it’s.

It’s painful at times. You know, mentally, it’s hard, it’s challenging, but it’s so profoundly rewarding with the insights that you gain from it. Well, and it’s. It’s kind of incredible when I can get, like, wow, I’m actually getting some of these targets, you know, you’re. It just, it’s. And you can. It feels different when you’re getting them versus when, you know, you’re just not really getting it. Anything. Yes. That. That’s huge. That feeling that comes through. I love that. I absolutely love that. That state of flow that you get into. Yeah, but it’s just weird. It’s hard to.

It’s. I’m new, you know, I’ve only been doing this for six months, just trying to learn it. Right. And. And because for me, I. I’ve, like, I’ve had a lot of journalistic things come to me. Like, I’ve been the first to report on a lot of things. Things like, how the heck does this all happen? And so I wanted to say, okay, I gotta learn something beyond this. And I. I expected it to be more just me developing my skill and stuff. I’d never expected it to be such a therapeutic process. For me. Yeah. That I probably needed.

You know, it’s like I, I needed to go through this. Just this self. I’m sharing a lot in this show. It the kind of a self acceptance stage where you’re just. You. You have to learn how to accept yourself and not have such high expectations on yourself all the time. And it’s been a process for me. It’s been really good. Yeah. Yeah. You’re surrendering your ego. Yeah. I mean, you know, or what you’ve been trained to. Been trained to be a certain way, like your whole life to just be like, like. And then you have to let that go.

You. I mean, being in the military or some of the. You, you know, going. Getting medical school or some other things that you guys have done. It’s. It’s performing in front of people. I mean, you, you all have to have that same thing, I would think. Absolutely. It’s. It’s hard to, to. To. To see things like you are not learn in. In rv. You have to unlearn first before you having anything at all. So you have to put away everything that is coming to your mind or whatever. It’s like Joe McGonagall said that you have to unlearn before.

You have to feel it and then you’ll go away just fine. I think of the patience you have to have to train people. I’m like, oh my God, he has that patience to deal with with me. I think that’s just incredible. It’s really. It’s actually an amazing experience. So I think it’s cool what you guys do. I’m nowhere near where you guys are at, but it’s just been fun to go through this process and realize it’s a real thing from a journalistic standpoint. I’ve been studying it, so I know it’s real. It’s just fascinating. And why I felt like I had to do the training is like.

As I realized it was real. And so now I’m like, well, I need to understand why it’s real. So it’s part of my exploring. I always had to explore all these things. Things and I ended up stumbling into. Well, this is what I’m doing now to understand it. And it’s been. It just took me down a journey I wasn’t expecting, which makes it even more fun. And it will open doors to new things. And you. You even don’t know it. Oh my God, this is happening. So something around this. Yeah. Yeah. It’s really incredible. And I think a lot of people what I’m Sensing is a lot more people out there are starting to open their eyes to these kinds of things and trying to.

They’re. They’re trying to figure out more about the world around us. And so it’s a huge growing interest around the world. It’s a collective. Collective consciousness. Movement, probably. Yeah. That’s unconscious, what I’m feeling. Yeah, it’s. There’s a level of consciousness that people are starting to realize that this is something that they can do. Yeah, but it takes time. Right. It’s not something you just can do. I mean, you can, but it’s. To get good at it. It’s a discipline in and of itself. Like you were saying, it’s a martial art for your mind. Yeah, yeah. And you know, with remote viewing, you’re setting up a proper communication with your subconscious and your subconscious.

That’s universal consciousness. It’s everywhere. It’s everything. And you’re learning how to communicate with that. So it’s just magnificent. That’s pretty incredible. Okay, so people will have the website up here for people to go to. They can see. When do you think your project is going to be up there for people to see it? It might be up there by the time I drop. We drop the show, which is a few days after we do this interview. But when do you think it’ll be up? It should. It should be soon. Everything should be done. So I’ll reach out, I’ll get you a date on that.

I’ll make sure that I get you that information. Okay, excellent. Yeah, it’s going to be great. Podcast as well on that. There’s a very interesting. Well, send me some links. We’ll get some links for all of you, know where they can find all of your information and people can follow you. I think people. More and more people are really interested in this topic and the future. Future Forecasters group are just amazing. And you guys are just amazing. So I think more and more people are interested in this. So if you can send me the links, I’ll make sure.

And we’ll have you back as you keep going through these projects. We’re going to have you back. Can’t wait. We’ve always got something to talk about, so anytime you need some guests, let us know. Absolutely. Thank you so much for joining today. I really appreciate it. Thank you, Sarah. Thank you for being here. Okay, see you. Bye.
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