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Summary
➡ The article discusses issues with Hawaii’s election integrity, highlighting discrepancies in ballot counts and lack of transparency from election officials. It mentions that the post office failed to invoice the county for all envelopes, leading to a discrepancy of 19,000 ballots. The article also points out that the election results are unverifiable, officials withhold data, and there’s a lack of chain of custody records. Lastly, it mentions that the Chief Elections Officer did not certify the 2024 General Election results properly, and complaints about these issues are being suppressed.
➡ The federal government is suing Scott Nago over voter rolls, while Nago and his team are accused of sharing voter information with a group called ERIC. Despite claims of removing voters who have moved away, there’s no record of this happening. The situation is seen as a violation of the Constitution and election integrity. The speaker suggests that federal intervention and public participation in Hawaii State Elections Commission meetings could help address these issues.
➡ The text discusses the importance of election integrity, highlighting concerns about a bill that seemingly allows anyone to vote. The speaker expresses worry about politicians not being accountable to the people and mentions a specific bill, HB 2132, which is currently under review. They encourage listeners to join standtogether hawaii.com and support election integrity. The text ends with a prayer for truth and justice in the electoral process.
Transcript
So thanks for joining me. Yeah, thanks for having me. So we’re going to talk about what happened in December at one of your own meetings. And it was on the Civil Beat, which is one of our a big newspaper here in Hawaii, and it’s called the Sunshine Blog. The title of this story is Elections Commissioner, which is you gets kicked out of his Own Meeting. And it’s mainly because you were asking questions. So tell us about this story. Well, to back up a step to set this up, when I got on the Elections Commission in 2024, the I’ve been asking for chain of custody documentation from the counties, and they wrote back to me saying there was no law requiring them to keep chain of custody documentation.
And so my first meeting as a commissioner, I submitted testimony with emails from the county and the state admitting that they were not keeping chain of custody documentation. So the attorney general representing the elections commission was also the defense attorney for Scott Nago, the chief elections officer. So they didn’t even get to the meeting minutes. They swore me in and they told me I had to recuse myself because I had provided testimony that the state and the county were not following the law. And so my journey began from there on the elections Commission, the attorney general, I defended myself and I said, no, you’re conflicted.
You cannot represent opposing sides. And the attorney general was representing both the commission and the chief elections officer while the commission was hearing testimony from the public asking the commission to investigate the chief elections officer. And so his way to do this was to tell me that I had to recuse myself. So I fought back. And the first thing they did was muted my microphone in that meeting. And then we took a vote. And they told me I was recused, which they cannot do for me, I have to do for myself. Subsequent meetings throughout the year, I would say about half the meetings, my microphone was muted for asking tough questions.
And then leading up to December, in December, I found out that the chain of custody documentation was not jiving for the island of Kauai. So Kauai could not account for over 4,000 ballots that you receive. We got chain of custody documentation for 23,000 ballots, which was the envelopes received. The state reported counting over 27,000 ballots. So there was a just short of a 4,000 ballot discrepancy. The council race was decided by 108 votes, and they could not tell us where 4,000 envelopes came from. So in that meeting, on the agenda item was a question on whether to ask the counties for chain of custody documentation.
When the chair announced the agenda item, he said, we’re. We’re going to rescind asking the counties for their chain of custody documentation. And I thought it was crazy that we would rescind asking them because we knew, and I had a court case in the state supreme court at that moment that the chain of custody documentation did not jive. So I made a motion to subpoena the chain of custody documentation. The chair freaked out. And it’s on videotape. You can look at it. They stopped the meeting. They turned off the cameras, and they had two undercover police officers remove me from the building for making a motion that the chair did not like whether to request ballot chain of custody for documentation.
And the only thing we can do with this is to rescind it. Is there a motion to rescind item 5 from the prior meeting? I move to subpoena ballot collections chain of custody documentation from all the counties for the 2024 general election, including Dropbox and United States post office collections. Second, what’s on the floor is item five, whether to request ballot box chain of custody documentation from the county. And we give the motion. You’re out of order. This was passed at the last meeting. That may or may not become invalid. We’re going to consider rescinding this again.
I would entertain a motion to rescind whether to request ballot box chain of custody to documentation from the counties. Chair, there’s a motion and a second on the phone. You weren’t recognized. The questions. Number five, you’re out of order. Ralph, once point of order. What rule am I not following? The. I’m saying the point of rule you cannot order is based on a rule. You cannot rule. Are you challenging there? His motion is in relation to the item. The motion was. Is not valid. He wasn’t recognized. Item 5 is whether to request ballot chain of custody documentation from the counties.
You can rescind this or we can go on to number six. Motion to rescind whether to request ballot box chain of custody documentation from the counties. Sorry, Chair Curtis, is that a yes or a no? There are other commissioners who are trying to speak. They’ll be recognized as appropriate right now. Sure. You’re violating rule 1.4. You’re violating 1.4. A. A member of an assembly in a parliamentary sense. As mentioned above, a person is entitled to full participation in this proceedings. You’re not allowing anyone to talk. You’re dictating when you’re emotion. You’ll be recognized when the time is right.
Now. You weren’t recognized to make the motion. You’re out of order now. You do it again, I’ll evict you from the meeting. The motion was made and seconded. And as the motion was not. Was made by someone who was not recognized, you’re out of order. Once the motion, you’re out of order twice. The motion was out of the meeting. The motion was made. You’re being ejected from the meeting. I’ll take a five minute recess for. For obstructing the agenda. We are on item five. You’re obstructing. You’re out of here. The motion was made. You’re ejected from the meeting.
Ralph. Asking. You’re asking the right questions that every single American who cares about elections should be asking. So this is. This is unbelievable. So let’s talk about. Well, first of all, is there anything else you want to share about that? And then I want to talk about Big island because that’s where I’m at, is on the Big Island. And we have. Go ahead. Yeah. So after that meeting and during that time period, they weren’t sharing any information with us. So I had to go out and get all of this information. And previously I already knew that they weren’t keeping chain of custody documentation.
I sent letters to all the counties reminding them of the law, which is HAR 3177453B which requires the counties to keep a complete and current count of all ballots received spoiled in their counties. So I reminded all the counties and then right about that time, I sent out letters. Freedom of Information act, which is in Hawaii, it’s called a uipa. Getting their chain of custody documentation. I already had Kawaii’s at that point. Their numbers didn’t jive. So I received the chain of custody documentation from the island of Hawaii, the Big island, and they gave me their Dropbox collection records.
But they did not count how many ballots came from the post office. So I FOIA that Freedom of Information act request information request and they sent me the business reply mail receipts from the post office documenting how many envelopes the post office invoiced them for during the election. And these envelopes include all mail pieces. So it’s inclusive of the mail ballots. But that number is more than the mail ballots. But we don’t know how many more it is. So giving them the benefit of, benefit of the doubt, they reported between the BRMs and their Dropbox collections, they have records for receiving 57,000 ballots and change.
And if you go to the state’s website, they reported counting over 76,000 mail in ballots. And now I’m not disputing the walk in. I didn’t even go there. It’s 8,000 or so. I’m not sure the exact number, but they were 19,000 short on how many envelopes they collected for the election. So Kekilani Ho, a candidate there wrote a letter to the county clerk and asked and gave them the records and said, your collection records are 19,000 short. Why, you know, aren’t they supposed to be the same as the states? Now the only thing that can happen to an envelope after it is received is that it can be signature verified.
And if it doesn’t pass the signature verification, the envelope is removed from the stack of envelopes. So the number that the state reports can legally only be less than the number of envelopes that the county collects. So that’s a huge problem. Clerk replied that Corey Psyche from the elections office on the Big island replied and said the reason for the discrepancy was that the post office did not invoice the county of Hawaii for all the envelopes. And so we’ve been discussing this for over a year now in the elections commission. So I have a question about that.
They didn’t invoice for the ballots that they received. So they’re therefore that, that’s what they’re saying, that’s where the 19,000 came from because they didn’t invoice. I don’t like that’s. They’re, they’re saying they don’t have records of collecting them because of post office forgot to invoice them. Forgot to invoice them. Wow. And that’s supposed to be a valid excuse. Right. So we, there were several investigations done and one of them, it was in the commission as a permitted interaction group and basically we found five major findings. Hawaii election results based on electronic records are unverifiable. Elections officials withhold the Underlying daily data, ballot counts over under reports signature verification logs and audit audit data preventing independent verification.
And then none of the four county clerks have provided chain of custody records that comply with HAR 3177453 and there were more ballots counted in the statewide voter registration system than the counties reported collecting. And then the Office of Elections misleads the public about ballot security and the integrity of elections. 4. The Chief Elections Officer did not certify the 2024 General Election results in accordance with the requirements of HRS 11 155. And lastly, the Elections Commission and the Deputy Attorney General’s Office suppress complaints and evidence of malfeasance. This is so huge. Like this is. This basically says that there’s no election integrity in Hawaii.
Absolutely 100%. It is not here. That’s what this evidence is showing. And them booting you out for one. I mean there’s so many discrepancies here that. So many issues. I should say what else is going on? And then is there a fix subsequent to that? I. I was removed from two more meetings following that for asking questions about this. So not take the House Minority Leader vote out of here. I’m on the commission precisely for the work that I’ve done investigating these issues. I’m bringing proof that the chain, the. The counties and the state do Taina custody.
You cannot keep me from voting on this. Enamus recuse itself from participating in deliberations, including discussions and taking actions such as voting. He cannot represent both the commission and the office. Please mute this conflict of interest. Commissioner. Mr. Nakamura’s is conflicted. According to Rule 1.7, the representation of one client will be directly adverse to another client. He’s representing two clients. He’s representing the Office of Elections and he’s representing the Elections Commissions. We represent. Our office represents the Office of Election. Do you have attorney client privilege? I’m not going to opine on this issue. Well, it’s important because if you have attorney client privilege, you cannot represent the commission.
I wrote a ton of emails. I think I got 50 pages of emails that I submitted as evidence. If the commissioners are going to contribute something, how is that not a conflict? It’s. That’s. That’s your role as a commissioner. Right. And that’s. I did the same thing and you’re telling me I’m conflicted. So recuse you from this vote. We’ll see you next month. Thank you very much for your time. But I was asking the. The. The chair on what authority he had to withhold communications from the rest of the commission and basically the chair, the attorney general’s office, in the office of Elections, I can prove or colluding to hide complaints and basically suppressing complaints and evidence of malfeasance.
And we have email documentation of the person who answers the emails in the office of Elections, responding to emails and seeking guidance from the attorney general, the chair and Scott Nago asking what to do with complaints and then the complaints, everything is redacted and the complaints never end up on the meeting agendas. Wow. So since we’ve discovered this discrepancy, the commission voted to ask the legislature to conduct an audit of the have the state auditor conduct an audit. The Ron Kochi did not reply to the letter. Nadine Nakamura did. And she said the legislature has to appropriate.
Has to pass legislation to have the auditor conduct an audit. We also sent a letter to the auditor asking him to conduct an audit. By law, when we notify the auditor that there are issues, he has to notify the governor and the legislature that there are issues. To my knowledge, he has not done that yet. But he also declined to do an audit for the county of the elections. So the elections commission a few months ago voted to do a hand count of the envelopes on the Big island and have volunteers sort the envelopes into two piles, one with mail markings and the other one without.
And presumably the ones with mail markings would have come through the mail and the ones without would be in drop boxes. They have detailed records for collecting 27,000 ballots in the drop boxes. The rest of the ballots should have come through the mail, according to them. So we made, we passed that motion and right at the last minute, one of the commissioners said, oh, do we need a court order to do this? So in our February meeting, what was a week and a half ago, the deputy attorney general told us that we could not unseal the envelopes and count them, that the federal retention 22 month retention rule prohibited the commission from opening, unsealing the envelopes and counting them.
Now the federal retention rule is there to preserve the records so that you can conduct an audit if something happens. And in the past, apparently elections offices would destroy the records right after an election, and therefore an audit could not be accomplished. The whole law was put in place to have elections officials save the records so that an audit could be conducted. But the attorney general just gave us an opinion verbally that we could not do that. Did he give a reason for that? Because that, that is. That, that just seems, I mean, that seems absolutely crazy that that’s exactly the reason for you guys that should be done.
I mean, the audits, you have to keep the records. That. And then for them not to keep the records as well. This is so mind boggling. This is so. I have an Instagram post, it’s Ralph Kushnie, elections Commissioner. I posted already one blurb on this. I try to do three minute videos of our election commission meeting. And in that video you’ll see that the deputy Attorney general basically says that the only one that can authorize unsealing is the Attorney General for the United States, which again is preposterous that the Attorney General would be involved with the unsealing of the ballots, envelopes from the Big Island.
Well, and also the fact that there has, there’s like a separation. Every state is supposed to be a sovereign state away from the federal, federal government. They’re supposed to be, they’re supposed to have their own rules. And, and that, that’s a whole, that’s another whole nother thing that I talk about in my book, but this one. And also the legislator, you said it was Nadine, I can’t remember her last name. She said that you said she, she said that the legislation has to vote on whether or not there’s an audit. That. Did she say that? Yes, it needs to be passed like any other bill.
That doesn’t sense. That’s. That does not make any sense at all. Like, then what’s that? It’s obvious they don’t want the audit conducted 100, 100%. But for her to say that, I don’t think that’s true. I think that she’s either very misinformed or that’s a fabricated lie. I don’t know which. But that does not make any sense for her to say something like that. For it to like have a bill that’s passed and then because, because bills pass and then become laws. So then there’s a law that says that they can audit. That just doesn’t make sense to me.
So maybe I’m missing something there with, with that logic. Well, we’re just taking them on their word and trying to get an audit done. And what’s interesting about the Attorney general’s opinion on not being able to open the ballots, all their opinions error to the side of not revealing any information that would verify the election. So the federal government has filed a suit against Scott Nago for not releasing the voter rolls to the federal government. The voter rolls are supposed to be public. And the whole idea of that is that the voter rolls are supposed to be cleaned.
And so in the case of the big island, there’s 19,000 additional more votes than there were envelopes collected. And the only record that we have is electronic. So we can deduce that after collections, there were 19,000 envelopes or ballots added electronically because we have no physical paper trail of where they came from. When you have inflated voter rolls, a bad actor could insert votes on behalf of those people and within the SVRs, the statewide voter registration system, and add voters or envelope signatures on behalf of people who never would check to see if they had voted or not.
Yeah. So the federal government is suing Nago for the voter rolls. In that case, they are defying the federal government and saying they’re protecting the security of all the voters. But on the same hand, they’re sharing the voter rolls with this group called ERIC. And I forget the acronym for ERIC, but I think there’s 27 states that are members of ERIC and they share all the voter rolls amongst each other already. So it’s very hypocritical. ERIC is a nonprofit that we know nothing about, and they shared all of the voters information. The state actually paid ERIC to take the information.
And they’re supposed to be removing voters from the voter rolls if they move away. But we have no record, and we’ve asked for that, a record of how many people they removed from the rolls. And in 2020, there was an interview of Scott Nago and he said there was about 100,000 bad voter registrations. In 2024 election, there were 65,000 more registered voters than in 2020. So it doesn’t seem like they’re removing anyone from the voter rolls. Wow. How do you think this could get fixed? Like, this isn’t. This is so beyond just an error. One error.
There’s. I mean, there’s so many. So many things wrong here. It’s unbelievable. And including the fact that you’re getting booted and you’re the election commissioner that’s just asking questions. So that right there. There’s so many things here, but I don’t. How do you think this could get fixed? This is absolutely insane. And what these people are doing is completely in. Violating the Constitution, violating their oath, violating the sacredness of. Of elections. This is really. I don’t know how this can work out. What. What are your thoughts around that? What was. It’s funny because all of the state agencies are round the wagons to protect the Office of Elections, so the Attorney General’s office is actively protecting every.
Anything that goes on. So it’s Obvious from Scott Nago has multiple rings of defense around him. And the first is Aaron Shoeander, who’s the general counsel in the Office of Elections. He’s an attorney and he defends Scott Nago on election cases and advises him. I would say he’s the mastermind in the Office of Elections. Scott Nago is the face. The second line of defense is the Attorney General assigned to defend Scott Nago, who at one time was also representing the commission. Then the third line of defense is the deputy Attorney general who’s assigned to represent the commission also defends Scott Nago.
He’s not attorney that is defending the, the commission’s will, if you will. If the commission has voted to count the envelopes, he would take this to court and to open the envelopes, but he’s not doing that. He’s just saying, yep, can’t open the envelopes. And then the third, the fourth line of defense is there’s nine members on the Elections Commission. Five generally vote not to get any kind of accountability. So with all that said, the only way I see any kind of justice coming is to get federal intervention with this and for them to, I mean, let’s just count the envelopes and see if they’re there.
And I would throw out to you, if they were there, they would let us count it to prove that. And what, and what, what is that? What does that hurt? I mean, as long as you, you do it in a way that honors the integrity of the election and the votes, then you should be able to do it. And that’s what the auditor’s for. You don’t have to make a bill or a law to make, to have an audit on the election. That is, and you’re in this position where you should have the power to call for an audit, because that’s election commissioner.
That’s, that’s, that’s part of that. Isn’t that part of your power in that seat as an elected commissioner? Yes, and we can subpoena records, but the attorney general, they just do all kinds of little games to prevent us from doing those things. And over a year ago, we passed a motion to have all the county clerks sign under penalty of perjury that they were keeping chain of custody documentation, and the Attorney general buried that. We had everything. All we needed was a signature on the, on the proposed rulemaking and set up a public hearing for it, which I would think the public would definitely go for, and they wouldn’t let it happen.
Wow. This is, this is like, you know, they’re, they’re just like a bunch of bullies. It just feels. It feels. And there’s so you can tell that they’re just hiding so much stuff. So what can people do? Like I’m all about actions and is there anything that the regular population of, of the island of Hawaii or just an American in Minnesota or wherever who cares about election integrity? What is there anything people can do or contact? Who, who? Couple things. So showing up to our meetings, the elections commission meeting. If you go to Hawaii State Elections Commission and there’s a sign up notice that you can sign up for the meeting notices, they send those out about six days ahead of time and then get on to our meetings.
We have a steady group of about 100 and something people that show up. But we need to overwhelm them with 500, a thousand people demanding verifiable elections. There’s nothing verifiable about our elections. At the end of the election they all they do is print out a sheet of paper and they tell us who won. And there’s no way for us to verify number one, that those numbers are accurate. But we can’t even verify how many pieces of paper were received. We don’t have basic inventory control in place for how many ballots were received. Side note, there was a HB 2132 is moving through the legislature.
My computer went down so I didn’t testify but I listened to it on YouTube afterwards. They’re making trying to pass a law that would make everyone automatically register to vote whenever you interact with the state agency. Now I would probably say that you’re going to get duplicate voters because somebody will put an initial or not put an initial. And then they specifically said you do not need to be an American citizen. And they removed any language of being an American citizen. To be automatically registered to vote, you have to opt out of it, which you have to fill out paperwork to not be registered to vote.
And the last one of the things that they put in is that they said unless you provide documentation that proves that you’re not a citizen, then you can’t vote. My goodness. So you have to prove that you’re not a citizen. And who’s going to do that? Yes. And then you won’t get registered. So what is that website? One more time again? I’m looking it up right now. It’s Hawaii Elections Commission is the website. Okay, let me show people. This is Hawaii Elections Commission. And then where do I go to put my down to you? Right there.
Sign up for email list. Click that. You guys, this is where to do it. So if you’re on the islands and then you put your name, your email, okay, an email with the agenda and when you sign on to it, you want they, they just added a YouTube to this so that, and it’s above the zoom link and if you click on the YouTube, you can’t participate. And they did that purposefully. When I got on the commission, there was about 50 people signed up for this. Right now there’s I think around 500 signed up for this, but we’re only getting a consistent 120 or so showing up to the meetings.
But we got to overwhelm them with we need verifiable elections, having print out and we need chain of custody. And all these, all the laws that are supposed to safeguard the mail in and using a computer to count the votes are being disregarded. None of them are being followed. And again on Instagram, Ralph Kushner ELECTIONS COMMISSION I’m just playing out 2 minute, 3 minute videos and people are starting to click on those and their jaw hits the ground when they hear what’s going on. And everybody’s at work while this stuff is happening. So you’re not aware of how bad it is, but I encourage people to click on and see what’s happening there.
Yeah, it just feels like Hawaii has been taken over and they’re just counting on people just sleeping and not, not paying attention to what’s going on. That’s actually, we just talked about that right before our, our interview and I went to a social event and I appreciate the social events, but I just think about how many people at social events don’t pay attention and don’t look. So you guys, this is something that is, we, we can’t let this go by on our watch. We can’t just ignore this on our watch. So you can go to standtogetherhawaii.com I am going to be sending this out to my list, my email list.
Join the email list and I am going to be doing more videos on this as, as we go throughout the year. This is, I believe this is an election year of coming up for us. So it is very important for us to have an election integrity. Otherwise, what is the point? What is the point? How can we call this a free country if our elections are just rigged and they’re choosing who gets put into office? Yeah, we need to know that the politicians are accountable to the people. And it seems the way they’re passing bills that they don’t feel like they’re accountable.
That’s Correct. And that’s why I’m watching some of the bills going through. What is the bill is it going through right now? The election one where you just said that anybody can vote is like, right there is to totally so disgusting that that right there says whoever put that forward is not in integrity with their oath of office and with the Constitution. Is that bill right now moving? Yes, it just had its first hearing yesterday, so it’s going to get another hearing at some point. I don’t know when. HB 2132 is the number. HB 2132. All right, I will put that standtogether hawaii.com if you’re on the islands, join stand together hawaii.com and then, Ralph, what is your Instagram again? It’s Ralph Kushni, elections commissioner.
Right. So follow Ralph on Instagram and let’s. Let’s do this. You guys, this is our Cooliana. This is why we came. You know, I really feel that the bravest of the bravest are here on the planet right now. And it’s our Coolian. This is the work I do. I had not planned on doing this. You know, I’ve done a lot of different things. But, Ralph, I just want to say thank you so much for the work you’re doing, because that I can’t imagine being in a meeting where you get booted out. It’s your meeting. You’re asking questions that every single person who cares about freedom should be asking, and you get booted for just asking the questions.
Like, this is really unbelievable. So let’s step up, people. Let’s step up to the plate and anything else you want to share, Ralph. And then we’re going to do a quick prayer. No, you can just see by the way they treat me in the meetings on, you know, if. If they had nothing to hide, they wouldn’t be doing that. Yeah, that’s right. Well, if they had nothing to hide, we would have an audit. Right, exactly. You know, and you can’t have an audit of the ballot, and you have to create a law. You have to create a.
That one. That one blows my mind that a legislator would even say, you have to have a bill and create a law for an audit of the. Of the ballots of the. That’s. That’s absolutely ridiculous. So, all right, let’s do a quick prayer. Infinite Creator, this is quite the game that we came to play. We’re just so grateful for Ralph. We know that angels are always surrounding him and his family, that he is totally protected and he’s guided his heart is guided in the right place to doing what is right for the people of this beauty of these beautiful islands.
Thank you so much for his work and so much for him being here. Great Spirit, we see things turning. We see so much light is on the islands right now. So much light is in Oahu at the Capitol. So much light is in all of the anybody who has anything to do with election integrity, so much light is shining so brightly in their office right now. The spirit of Aloha, the spirit of love is surrounding them that their hearts be turned to doing what is right for the people or they remove themselves from from their office.
They remove themselves from their position. The truth cannot stay hidden. The Buddha says three things cannot stay long hidden. The, the truth, the sun and the moon. And we are calling forth the truth right now in the state of Hawaii, in the Hawaii Islands, in the Hawaii Kingdom, that the truth is here and it be unfolded and it is coming out in a flood. It is coming out in a flood. Great Spirit, we are so grateful right now for anybody who hears this message that stands up and says, I’m not going to let this go by on my watch.
I’m going to stand up. I’m going to be in the meeting. I’m going to have my voice be heard. Great Spirit, we just know that this is happening. We know it is done and we get to watch the movie unfold as things come pono as they become right here in on the Hawaii, in Hawaii. Great Spirit, we are so, so grateful for this journey. We trust our mission and we trust in you. We do what is in our hearts, what we feel is right, and we trust in you. Great Spirit, we leave the rest to you.
Thank you so much. And so it is, Ralph, thank you so much for joining me. And please keep me updated and informed. If you need more voice, any messages to be heard, let me know and I will get it out. And also join standtogether hawaii.com you guys, because you will be getting emails about this and it’s time for us to step up and we will do this. We’ve. We’ve got this. So again, Ralph, thank you so much for all you’re doing. I know that it’s not easy. Yep. Thanks for having me and getting the word out.
Appreciate it. Pleasure. All right, you guys, much aloha.
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