Political Rhetoric War and Open Borders Breeding Dangerous Extremist Cells w/ Carole Lieberman

➡ The text discusses how Israel’s intelligence agency, Mossad, detected a threat in Iran, leading to American intervention. It also promotes a company called Masterpiece that removes toxins from the body. The text then introduces a conversation with Dr. Carol Lieberman, who discusses extreme attitudes and behaviors, and the importance of respectful dialogue. Lastly, it warns about IRA scams and recommends a trustworthy gold company, Miles Franklin.
➡ The text discusses a political debate between Cuomo and Mamdani, where the author criticizes both candidates’ performances. The author notes that Cuomo appeared overconfident and unenergetic in the first debate, but improved in the second. Mamdani, on the other hand, was initially too animated but became calmer in the second debate. The author expresses concern over Mamdani’s policies and his promise of free services funded by taxing the rich, questioning where the money would come from if the wealthy leave the area.
➡ The text discusses two main issues: the impact of taxing the rich and the potential dangers of extreme religious beliefs influencing politics. It suggests that taxing the rich can lead to them leaving, reducing the tax base. It also warns about the potential threat posed by extreme religious beliefs, using the example of a New York mayoral candidate allegedly holding extremist views. The text also touches on immigration and cultural integration issues.
➡ The text discusses the Israeli military’s delayed response to an attack on October 7th, which was not intentional but due to it being a holiday. It also refutes claims that Israel bombed a hospital, stating it was actually a misfired Hamas rocket. The text further debates the leadership of Benjamin Netanyahu, with some viewing him as extreme and war-centric. Lastly, it mentions a coffee company offering discounted starter kits and a longevity blend that could potentially increase lifespan.
➡ The text discusses the extreme behaviors and propaganda in war zones, focusing on the conflict between Israel and Hamas. It highlights how children are taught to carry guns and play war games from a young age. The text also criticizes the use of civilians as human shields by Hamas and the misinformation spread about Israel’s actions. Lastly, it discusses the theft and resale of aid supplies by Hamas, contributing to the suffering of the people.
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I want this to be a productive conversation and we were able to have a productive conversation. I don’t agree with everything she says and she clearly doesn’t agree with me. And I think that, I think I’m not Muslim, I’m not Jewish, I’m not from the Middle East, I’m more of an independent. And so I think I can look at, I try to look things objectively and I think there’s extraordinary behavior on all sides here. I gotta say she doesn’t agree with me on a lot of stuff and I think that’s okay. These are the conversations we have to have because right now we have people in one echo chamber, a lot of people in an echo chamber and a lot of people in this echo chamber.

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Carol Lieberman. Hi Dr. Carol. Welcome to the program. Thank you. Well, there is so many crazy, irrational things going on right now, which is, you know, those of us who are trying to be objective and trying to be more adults are really struggling with all the decisions, so many of the decisions being made, the wars, the people being elected. And I wanted to bring you on to start to get an idea of what is the mentality that’s causing these behaviors that are just, it’s the chaos behaviors. And we keep digging ourselves bigger and bigger holes because of the decisions we’re making.

And there isn’t a clearer example of that than perhaps the New York, what’s going on with the mayor race in New York. Like why would they Democrats put up an extreme candidate? Let’s talk about this candidate in New York, what he is made of, what he’s about and then why they would want someone like that in place? Well, yes, in general America, I don’t think it’s just America. The world really, or the west in any case, is really going through a very scary transformation. So many people are at each other’s throats, literally. You know, I’m a New Yorker, but I’m in a born and bred New Yorker, but I live in California now.

And that’s probably one of the best places to use as an example of, you know, all the riots in the streets and the Governor, Governor Newsom telling the, the police to stand down and, and Mayor Bass telling the police to stand down and just letting the riots, you know, letting people run riot. And of course, you know, of course a lot of this started, or this wave of it started during the election for president when, when the Democratic Party not didn’t talk so much about policy, but talked about Trump is this horrible man. He’s Hitler. He’s going to kill you all.

He’s going to put you in concentration camps. He’s going to, you know, do all these horrible things. Of course, some people are saying, you know, by his using ICE that he is doing horrible things, but I’m not one of them. I mean, I think this is long, long overdue. But anyhow, when they started, not when they started criticizing him in horrible language for him, not for what he was going to be doing or, you know, promising, that was one of the major, if not the major provocation for people to, to just go off the rails. I mean, we know.

Hold on one second. I mean, if you relate him to Hitler or the Antichrist, which is the two things that you hear, if you truly believe that, like, if I truly believed it was that, I would be probably, you know, doing some things to try to stop it. But how do, yeah, how do they get to the point where they actually believe this is because it’s coming from our mainstream media. Yes. And when you hear it, you know, people, dictators say that if you want to make something happen, just keep repeating it enough times that that’s what brainwashes people.

And of course, you know, they were repeating it for months and months and months. So that, that is, that is the number one problem in America. But it has filtered down. It’s not just Trump, you know, and, well, when it started during the campaign, you know, during Thanksgiving and during Christmas when families get together, normally that was, there was, there were fireworks because even families, you know, were just disputing with each other or not inviting certain people in the family because they voted for Trump. Or were going to vote for Trump. You know, it got crazy back then, and, and then, you know, now we have.

As you were mentioning, Mamdani, he gets really annoyed if you don’t pronounce his name right. Whatever. Mamdani. I was, I wanted to write it down. I actually was asked by the New York Post to watch the two debates, the two Democratic primary debates and analyze their body language and in general, you know, their behavior. And so, so I got a chance to really watch him, and I think he needs to be 5150, you know, involuntarily hospitalized, psychiatric hospital. Really? It’s that bad? What, what do you think he’s. Because I know his policies are pretty crazy. Some of the policies.

What did you analyze about him that really have you. Has you concerned? Well, you know, there were, there were, I think, nine, at least in the first debate. I think there were nine candidates at the debate. And. But it was really mainly between Cuomo and Mandami, and so, so they kind of took up most of the air time. And I will admit, the first go around, Cuomo, you know, he, he didn’t. Did you watch any of those debates? I, I didn’t, no. I heard about him. I read about some of them. I just didn’t watch. I don’t like to watch this stuff.

I’ll read about it and get the synopsis, but I’m like, interesting. I wouldn’t have watched it probably, if, if I didn’t have to analyze it, but, but it was really, it was very interesting. I’ll admit most of the, you know, so the, the other candidates really didn’t get to do much or say much or people weren’t paying as much attention to them. But Cuomo looked at the first debate, he looked tired. He looked, you know, like he just got up from bed, out of bed. He, he. And I, I thought that he counted. He was too.

He was too sure of himself. I mean, he, he, he assumed he was going to win because he, of course, had much more experience in politics than, you know, than, Than the other candidates. And so he took it, too, for granted. No, you never do that. Oh, you never become overconfident. I coached sports for 15 years, and that’s it. One of the main lessons. You never are overconfident. But anyways, keep going. I compete in eventing, in horseback riding. Yeah. Venting competitions. And yes, the few times that I felt overconfident didn’t work. Yes. That’s when you lose.

That’s when you get careless. Yes, yes. You don’t try as hard anyhow. So, so, like, you know, he was, he, he just, the way he looked was just very, very quiet, very unenergetic, which was kind of a turn off. But, and, and he kept, and, and Mandami kept, you know, attacking him because he knew he was the, the main thing. Person he had to beat. And, and, and, and Cuomo, you know, he kind of did look more beaten as the night went on because he was doing something was very strange. He was, like, looking down at, you know, they were on the.

They each had these dices in front of them, and he was, like, looking down and occasionally he would write something, but it was, and it was kind of really more to get out of where he was like, to dissociate from, you know, all this, the people who were going against him. And, and so that wasn’t very cool. But the second debate, he was better and he had things to say. I mean, they were, of course, criticizing things like how he let people die in nursing homes during COVID Which he did. Yeah. Yes. Yes. I mean, man, if my mother was in a nursing home in New York at that time, I, I think, well, and Walls, I’m in, you know, Minnesota area.

Walls let higher percentage of people here in Minnesota die than Como did in New York, and walls got to skate on that issue. But anyways, keep going. I have to throw that in because that really bugs me. That’s very interesting. Yeah. Oh, Wallace is so bad. Don’t you want to move? Yes, well, it’s sad because my parents are here, my son’s here. There’s really, there’s reasons why you’re here. That is just politics. But if it was just that. Yes, yes, yes, me too. I mean, I have a number of reasons, but. But, you know, I keep hoping it’s going to get better.

Florida is the place to be, it seems. Anyway, so the next, the second debate, Cuomo was much better, and he had some answers. Not necessarily, you know, he couldn’t overcome necessarily, you know, all the people he killed in the nursing home. And then the other big issue was, was his. Oh, his. All the women who had, you know, accused him of sexual harassment and then. But he, he was saying that different. Different courts looked at it, and it was never really accused, but he did. He did. He did, you know, resign, which was not really a good idea because, I don’t know.

I’m sure there’s a lot more behind the scenes, but anyway, sure, so. So he had a little more to say to. As answers to These main things that he was being criticized on. Now, Mamdani, on the other hand, now he got better in the second debate, too, and it was kind of the reverse because in the first debate he was all, you know, emphasizing everything he was saying and this and that. His hands were like flying around. And the second debate, which kind of took away from being able to pay attention to what he was saying.

But in the second debate, he was calmer and it was interesting because he had made headway in the polls in the meantime. And so, so he was feeling, I guess, that he didn’t have to, you know, go out, go that crazy to try. But why is he winning? Why did he win? Well, I, what did, is why were you so concerned about what you saw on the stage from his psychological profile based on his body language? Because, because of what I was saying with the flying hands and all that, and because of the sort of the anger that he had and, and I mean, you know, just listening to his policies.

But I, I wrote, I tweeted this morning. Where’d it go? I tweeted, sorry for the. Because I, I, this morning I woke up and I saw that he won, basically. I mean, Cuomo gave up in the primary. He may still run in the main, in the general election. But anyway, I wrote Zoran for mayor, question mark, question mark, question mark. Does New York City have Trump derangement syndrome? How else to explain Momdani’s shock lead? New Yorkers are willing to elect a socialist mayor who said he would arrest Benjamin Netanyahu because he also said he was Trump’s worst nightmare.

Yes, he, he kept saying that in the debate. You know, a number of them were trying to say how they would be tough against Trump and, But he was the most, you know, I’m his worst night nightmare. And, and Cuomo didn’t, really, wasn’t that much against him. You know, he didn’t, he, he wasn’t for him, but like, he was basically saying he’d be able to work with him or he’d be able to protect New York, that kind of thing. Normal politic political stuff that normal rational people would do, right? Essentially, yeah. Dami was promising, he’s promising all these things.

But the crazy thing, I mean, it’s New Yorkers, my people, who, who, who ignored all this and voted for him. I mean, he’s, he promised free, free buses, free child care, free, just a lot of free stuff. And the other people on the, on the, in the debate said, where’s he going to get the money for all this, it’s all well and good, you know, to promise these things, but there’s no money in the budget to give all these free things. And he didn’t. Well, his answer for how he was going to get the money was to tax the rich, of course.

Okay. Yeah. Did he, did anybody say, well, what happens when the rich all leave? Well, yeah, I mean, because that’s what’s happening. Right. Okay, so you tax the rich, you incent them to get the hell out of New York. Now you have no tax base and now you’re even much worse off than you were before. Yes. Which is actually what’s been happening in California. A lot of the super rich people have been leaving. Yeah. You know, so. Well, yeah, that’s what happens. So one thing that I was listening to an activist who, father was from Egypt and mother was, and she was in this extreme religious Muslim thing, and she said that there’s a difference between, she called it Islamists versus just regular Muslim.

Regular Muslims are just like regular Christians. That’s just their religion. They’re rational, they’re just what they believe and they’re good, normal people. But then there’s an extreme sect of that religion which wants to take down, they want the whole government run based on religion. They want to take down the Western world. They hate the west, you know, the people like us, the Western world. And she said the, the New York mayor candidate is that. And that’s what people don’t realize. He’s not just a normal Muslim, which we all want to embrace and be able to live side by side as neighbors.

Right. This is one of those extremists that want to destroy the west and destroy us. He is basically a terrorist. Yeah. So here we’re worrying about Iran and all this stuff is going on with Iran, and then we elect a mayor in our, you know, in New York of all places, you know, who wants to carry out those same kinds of things. In terms of what you were just mentioning, you know, Sharia law. Now, I’ve been reading. So my, my hypothesis is it’s primarily about. Well, there’s a. Primarily, you know, or a large part, I don’t know what percentage, but large part, Trump derangement syndrome.

But I’ve been reading this morning as this news came out that he was ahead. A lot of people are saying, and I think that this is a big part of it too, that, that it’s because of all the people who have been allowed into New York, the migrants who have been allowed purposely for all the past years, you know, Biden, Obama, to come into America so that they would vote Democratic in the hopes that they would vote Democratic. Because isn’t there money? Isn’t my understanding is they pay $10,000 to help these immigrants come in per immigrant, and so they’re actually paying people to bring these people in? In some.

Yes. In some circumstances, yes. Well, I know the Somalians in our, you know, the Somalians in Minneapolis is the second highest outside of Somalia. It’s the largest population of Somalians. Yes. And they’re paying to bring them in. And there’s nothing wrong with being a Somalian. It’s if you bring in that, that culture that I’m talking about, that attitude of hating us. Yes. The problem is bringing in in large numbers people from cultures that are so different. That’s right. And who don’t want to embrace our culture. You know, it’s one thing for like, like, let’s say as an example, the Hispanics in California, for the most part, they come in and they embrace our culture.

I mean, they, most of them learn at least some English and they, most of them work. Well, I don’t know the, I shouldn’t say most. I don’t know the exact percentage which there is a significant amount. I mean, the people, you know, they get jobs and they pay taxes and all of that. Now, then you bring in. I’m not saying that that’s the case now because, you know, over the last four years or over the last, you know, especially the last year when Biden was trying to get in, you know, before Trump would win to get in as many people as possible.

But if you bring in even another example is Afghans, because when Biden surrendered horribly in Afghanistan, he brought in 80,000 Afghans. And of course, there was no way to vet them during the chaos that there was at that time. And so they put them in, they didn’t put them in just one state. They put them in various places all around America, but, but in large enough and large enough numbers. And they had them at first in buildings that they, that, you know, state that like federal buildings of some sort. But, you know, the problem is that Afghans are another example of people who, they’re in their culture, it’s okay to have sex with underage girls and it’s okay to have to rape.

And, and so when they got out of this federal home, that, that there was compound, they were doing that. And they rape young boys, too. I mean, that’s. Oh, yes, yes, that’s right. That, that’s because they actually, young girls are More of a sacred thing, you know, because of their virginity and stuff. So they rape boys? Well, yeah, they do rape boys too. I mean the thing is that they have been, they’ve been arrested. You know, we don’t hear about this, of course, you know, you know, as the terrorist therapist, you know, I’ve been since 9 11, I’ve been devoting a significant amount of my time to being the terrorist therapist, meaning helping people cope with terrorism.

I wrote two books about terrorism. I went to, of course I helped Americans to start with. And then I’ve helped people in Paris and in the UK and now I’m doing zoom therapy sessions with Israelis. So. But it wasn’t just to help people and help them become more resilient and all that. It was also to warn them about the fact that, that radical Islamists if for over a thousand years their plan has been to take over the West. And so, you know, Israel is, is just the canary in the coal mine. And, and Jews, you know, they wanted to destroy Israel, kill Jews, but also kill anyone.

The non believers, the unbelievers, the people of any other religion who don’t believe in radical Islam. So see that’s the, that’s the problem is there’s extreme in all of these cases, you know, because I like to say that Israel, you’re probably not going to like this, but Israel is like a ally from hell almost because they are irrational in how they’re dealing with some of this stuff. So it makes it difficult. That’s why I said there’s bad people from all perspectives because they’re just Israel being irrational. Well, I just think that October 7th, which was a stand down issue and a lot of the things anybody who’s researched October 7th knows that October 7th was not what they say it is.

And so once you start lying to the public and lying to people about what really happened, then you’re not believed anymore. And then, I mean, here’s a great example when the truce, and this is why Trump got so angry yesterday or the other day with them, is because he did a truce and then they bombed the crap out of Iran after the truce. And it’s like that, that’s why he was so angry. It’s like you don’t do that. It’s this irrational. I was just reading about that. Yeah, it wasn’t after the truce. The truce was supposed to take place at 7am and they did that at 3am but what, but about what are you saying about October 7th? Because I have not only studied October 7th, I created a music video about October 7th that I played in the, on a mobile billboard going throughout Los Angeles and it’s on my website.

And you know, I, I talk about what really happened on October 7th. We know what happened on October. Well, the Hannibal elective, for example. The what? The Hannibal. Do you know what the Hannibal Elective is? You have to know that if you studied it. The Hannibal elective where they didn’t want any hostages as Israeli hostages to be taken. And there’s a colonel in the Israeli, Israeli colonel that came out and said they implemented the Hannibal elective. I mean that’s the kind of stuff that. Wait a second, who implement? The Israelis. Did the Israeli military. They didn’t want any hostages.

Yes, of course they didn’t want any hostages. Yeah, but then they stopped hostages. And the fact that they had a stand down order for six hours, the Iron Dome failed and you know there’s Israeli military whistleblowers that came out and said there’s no way that for six or eight hours, however long it was, that they wouldn’t have been able to detect the, these people coming over. So for like that long this allowed to stand down. And then the fact that they were training for months. I mean these are the kinds of things that, I mean there was a, there was, there were.

I mean you can’t ignore the facts. I mean these are true facts. They’re not necessarily true. I don’t believe those that all, everything that you said. I mean of course Israel didn’t want hostages to be taken. That that’s a no brainer. But how could you not say these are facts that happen October 7th. That makes, where did you, where did you get that from? The mainstream media has been, and Hamas primarily has been giving the mainstream media lies like talking about what Israel is doing in Gaza, talking about genocide, that those are lies. The October 7th.

It is not a lie that for it was either six or eight hours that they, that the attack on October 7th was able to go on before anything the Israeli military or police or any force could come in. That is almost impossible in Israel. And that’s not a lie. It was not done on purpose. Yes. You know, problem was it was on a Sabbath and, and it was on a holiday. So yes, the Israeli army was late in, in doing what they were supposed to be doing, but not on purpose. There was no way that would, would have been on purpose.

Well that that’s the question is that nobody understood why there’s that level of incompetence because they are according to whistleblowers who I listened to a handful of them. So there’s more than one. There’s a handful of whistleblowers that it’s almost impossible because of the constant surveillance and the constant security threat. That is there would be no way for this length of time for them not to get to this, to that situation, especially a high profile event like that. There was an error. There were errors, you know, that I’m sure they have been working on, on, on investigating.

There were errors that the, the, the cameras and whatever on that area. You know, Israel was lulled into a sense that this kind of thing wasn’t going to happen. They had heard the rumors about that Hamas was doing these practice drills and all that. They didn’t believe it, but there is no way. And yes, so there was, there were some problems, there were some mistakes. I’m not going to argue with you about that. But the idea that Israel would purposely let their people die because, and not go in and do anything, that’s ridiculous. Well, I don’t know why that it’s.

When incompetence gets to that level, you start to question. And then because they’re supposed to have the, one of the best military and they do have one of the best military and intelligence forces out there that when incompetence at that level was supposedly one of the best in the world, you start to question. And then the bombing, the hospitals shutting off, the food coming in. I mean there’s just a lot of things that, to me these are things that, that these, this is Hamas propaganda. They did not bomb the hospital. It turned out that it was Hamas.

A rocket or whatever it was accidentally went in the direction of the hospital. It wasn’t Israel. Yes. Mainstream media had that online or had that, you know, reported that, that Israel bombed the hospital. Yes. But it turned out that it wasn’t. Well, a quick break from the program to share with you. 7075 Coffee. They are giving away starter kits at reduced prices. You can get three bags of coffee and a bunch of goodies for $99. And while coffee prices have increased by 30% or more nationwide, these guys are reducing their prices so that you can try it.

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I think that there is extreme on all sides of this situation. And I think if there were more rational people running Israel, we would be in a better situation. I totally disagree with you. That’s totally disagree with you. I think Netanyahu is saving Israel number one. And what Israel did, as far as Israel saved the world just now with, with detecting by having Mossad and various spies in Iran, they were able to know when Iran got to a dangerous point. And that is why America came in and gave that extra, you know, bomb the, the sites as well.

But, but you know, the fact that they had, they have spies in there for years and that’s why they were able to detect when it was the day at the dangerous point. So, so, and that’s as I said, that’s why we were able to go in and that’s why we protected the world. Because Iran, you know what I just was saying, Iran wants to destroy Israel first and kill Jews, but ultimately the West. And do you know, do you know what’s going on in Europe with the terrorists taking over Europe? But that, yeah, I think it’s really bad.

My point is that we have the extreme. I think that we have extreme on all sides. And I think that the rational behavior is being lost. The reaction to this extreme is extreme. And so from my perspective, looking at, I think there’s extreme on both sides. That’s how I’m seeing it. And you’re basically saying that Netanyahu is an extremist. Was that the example of who was extreme in Israel, Alfred, for sure. Netanyahu is, I think, is an extreme. I think he’s a Zionist and I think that Zionist. I would hope that the head of Israel is a Zionist.

Yeah, well, I think. But there’s a, or an, a neocon. I think that there are. He’s war, very war centric and I think that instead of peace centric and I think that creates more issues. Actually. He, I mean, that’s what I see from objective. I’m an objective observer because I don’t, I don’t know. I’m neither. I’m not. Is. I’m not Israeli, I’m not Jewish, I’m not Islamic. So I can look at all of this. Go ahead. This propaganda, I’m telling you, I mean, I am very involved and know what’s going on. There was a beautiful press conference that, that Netanyahu gave.

Oh maybe it was five months ago or so, and he was explaining to, to the press, to the world. It was online, so it was essentially turned out to be the world. He was expl. He can’t do what the previous premiers, presidents, leaders of Israel did in the past, which was because they are so desperate for peace. They have given pieces of Israel in different wars to different Middle Eastern countries to try to get peace, including Gaza. And that didn’t work. So he was explaining. I’m just kind of summarizing it, but he was explaining why and he had a map and he was showing who did what and when this happened and all of that.

And he was explaining that Israel can’t keep giving away parts of Israel in the hopes that they’re going to make peace because they never do. Well, but they didn’t give it to God. They didn’t give Gaza. Them Palestinian people were already there. I’m just talking in general. Whatever the wars were, they gave pieces of Israel to Middle Eastern, to, to Iranian, to terrorists. Essential. Okay, the various kinds of terrorists. Well, I do think, I think this is where your, you could be instrumental going forward because the world is turning against Israel and seeing it as extreme.

And I think this is, this is why. I mean, the extreme the whole world is essentially. I mean, it’s literally everywhere. And I think that Israel is. It looks extreme to somebody like me and I think the guy that just got elected in New York looks extreme to somebody like me. And so to me it’s just like there’s extreme everywhere. And I think that you, that you could be instrumental in helping to calm down this and maybe calm down the behaviors from all Perspectives and help people understand. Because I was listening to the radio. Two people talking about how there isn’t.

This is the kind of conversations I’ve heard. Two people on the radio talking about the Gaza and said, if there’s even 10 innocent people, we shouldn’t be bombing and killing them. And they said, is there even 10 innocent people? And they said, no, not even the children are innocent, not even the toddler, because they get trained to be killers. Okay. So they were saying that all of them should be bombed, even the kids. And to me, that is extreme. You shouldn’t kill little kids because. Because later on they’re going to be taught something. That is extreme behavior.

Okay, well, first of all, it is true that starting from the time that they can attend a madrasa, like preschool, kind of, or at least kindergarten. Sure. They are taught, you know, to carry their. They play these games where they carry a gun. And. And they are told, you know, Israel is over there, and they play games. They play Hamas games. I mean, they play October 7th games. Essentially. This is what you do to Israel. And they show these kids toddlers who can barely carry a gun. This is what you do. And you go over there and, you know, and they get points.

But you know what I’m saying. I mean, when you’re hearing this, you’re like, wow, from an outside perspective, killing babies and toddlers, because later on they’re going to be. That’s an extreme idea. Okay, But. But, but that is not what most. Who. Who. That’s what I’m saying. This was. This was on Salem radio. I’m on my ch. This was airing in the middle of the day across the country. I’m not going to use names on national radio. I was like, jaw dropped. And so these kinds of messages that people are getting, and I think that. That there’s no if, ands, and buts about it.

That’s an extreme thing. And so that’s where someone like you could come in and say, wait a minute, guys, this is, you know, come on, we got to be more rational here on how we go ahead. That is not my understanding of what is going on, because I know, you know, I do this. I think I mentioned. I do a podcast, the Terrorist Therapist show. And I talk about, like, what’s hot in terrorism for that week. Yeah. And I’ve talked about, you know, this. That Israel. What Israel is doing or has been doing in Gaza since the beginning of the war is dropping leaflets and other kinds of warnings to try to get civilians away from the area, that they’re going to attack.

They’re trying to kill all Hamas, not the people. And, and, and yes, you know, when, when October 7th happened, people, all the different ages and people in Gaza and in lots of other places around the world, but including in Gaza were cheering. They were having parties and giving cake and I, I hope you’ll watch my video on my, on my website, terroristtherapist.com the October 7th video. And they were cheering these little kids. You know, it was just like with 911 people in radical Islamist countries were cheering for 9 11. You know, so it was the same kind of thing.

Now I’m not saying that they should kill four year old kids. I don’t believe that. But I don’t. You know what the, what, what Hamas does is they take civilians or they take kids or adults, they take, you know, citizens and they put them in front of themselves themselves so that they make it that, that Israelis have to kill the citizens if they’re going to kill them. And it’s just, you know, it’s, it’s really sad that. Well, it’s just, it’s just crazy. It’s crazy extreme, irrational, evil behavior. And whenever you want to kill innocent people. Yes, but Israel is doing its best to not kill innocent people.

And you know the thing about Israel stopping goods from getting into Gaza, that is another lie. It’s not Israelis who are stopping it. It’s the, it’s Hamas who is stealing food and all of that from the, from the, like the UN or the, the different kinds of people who are trying to bring in aid. They’re taking it because then they try to sell it to the citizens. That’s sad that, that is what we, we see a lot in these war zones is they try, they sell the stuff and then. Yeah, that’s really sad. And I know with us, the, the aid, the food aid coming in, the governments are so poor and the people are so poor.

This has happened all over the, a lot of countries where they take the food and they sell the food to have the resources to pay things. And so then the people are star. Sell. Yeah. Weapons or just to pay off their debt and to pay things and the people still starve. And that’s just, that’s not just there. That’s happens in a lot of really poor countries. It’s really sad. But see that’s, that’s the issue. So now let’s talk a little, break down the propaganda a little bit. You’re saying that the, the prop. I can believe it.

That there’s propaganda. I think it’s all in wartime. I think it’s on all sides. But the propaganda coming from the Middle east against the west is. There’s a lot of Western people who are participating in that then and are convinced that it’s true and are showing evidence of it over and over again through video. And so are you saying that the video is not. Is fabricated? I mean AI and fabricated and acted out and then Western people who are good, meaning people, journalists are repeating these things, thinking that they’re, I mean, because it’s from, from a perspective, watching.

Okay, just think about a second. It’s watching hospitals, watching innocent people being bombed, being told that these people are just trying to survive, and then having Western journalists showing you that over and over again. You’re saying that is propaganda and that so many Western people have been brainwashed to think that it’s true and it’s not. Yes. You know, I’m not going to say that Israel didn’t, you know, the, I mean, this is another example. Hamas keeps their weapons and keeps their leaders, some of their leaders, under hospitals and under schools, which, you know, causes. Has caused Israel to sometimes have to bomb them in order to, to get to the weapons and all that.

I mean, I’m not even sure that that is true, but it’s possible. But the hospital, when you were mentioning at the beginning, the big hospital, the big news that there was at the beginning of, of this, about how Israel, you know, bombed this big hospital, that’s what turned out to be Hamas accidentally bombing their own hospital. But you know, I’m not going to say that there aren’t any other hospitals that Israel may be bombed. I don’t know. But, but you know, Hamas is, has with AI or with, you know, pictures from other places or they, they create, they create scenes.

You know, I don’t know how much is AI and how much is actually taking pictures. They just act it out. Yeah, acting it out. Exactly. And so, but what the thing is, you know, what we also have. And then people don’t believe this. There are. When Hamas came into Israel on October 7, the, the terrorists had the goggles, you know, the cameras that they were able to. I don’t remember the name of that, but you know, it’s like you can take pictures, video with these goggles. With a camera in your goggles. Yep. And, and so they took their own pictures of all the horrible things that they were doing.

You know, raping women, torturing people, tearing them apart, putting babies in ovens, all these horrendous animalistic kinds of things. They took their own pictures because they were proud of this. And then when, when Israel came in and I guess when they killed some of these Hamas, they were able to get the goggles and they were able to show what, what Hamas took. And yet some people refused to believe that, that they still don’t want to believe it. Well, it’s hard because when you’re watching Western journalists show videos show and very emotionally show facts and facts and evidence from video and conversations and just a lot of information and they, they come across as very credible people.

It’s very difficult to know what the truth is. And from my perspective, it just looks like there’s, there’s irrational out of control behavior from all sides because there’s killing. Whenever there’s killing going on, you’re going to have some pretty extreme behavior on all sides. That’s what I’m. And maybe Israel has been in, under attack for so long, they’ve become irrational in their, some of their, some of their people. I mean, could it be that there’s a certain percentage of people that are going off the hinges and that’s what they’re capturing and do and doing what. And, and these irrational people are doing what? Well, like raping women.

And you know, Israelis are raping women. Yeah, some of the military, I mean that’s what they’re showing in video is, you know, some of the, some of the things that are happening. Well, there is no way. There is absolutely no way. I mean, I’ve been to Israel. I’m in constant contact helping these people in Israel. I’ve been to, you know, when 911 happened, that’s when I dug into terrorism and have continued, you know, originally of course, in America with 9 11, but then, you know, with Israel. So I know there was, there’s no way that Israelis, soldiers or not soldiers, would rape, would rape Palestinian women or any kind of woman.

I mean, that is not in our religious beliefs. It’s not the way that. See, and that’s the, that’s the information that’s out there. And, and that is, see, I’m trying to be as respectful. I’m just really, all I want is the truth, right? And I don’t. It’s so scary. You’re a very intelligent person and it’s interesting that you’re telling me all this because it’s like, I didn’t know it was that bad. It is that bad. And I’m telling you, the world, it’s, it’s, I’m telling you straight up, it is that bad. The majority of the world sees it this way and that, and that the.

If this is a propaganda war, then you’re. Then Israel’s losing overall. And that there’s a lot of work to do to really get information out there that is the truth. If what I’m telling you is not the truth, because. And it’s very serious is what I’m, What I’m trying to say. I also think it’s a problem that, that the Jewish religion is tied so closely to what the state of Israel is doing, because I think what’s politics and a religion is not the same thing. Like, you can’t. If you don’t like what Israel’s doing, that doesn’t mean that all Jewish people is bad.

That’s like. I don’t think that should be tied. Okay, yes. This whole thing, you know, pro Palestinian, pro Hamas, all of that, you know, has. Is really also anti Semitism. You know, that’s really at the root of it. But the Jewish religion, Israel is a prominent part of the Jewish religion and part of the problem that we have. I actually have been thinking about doing a book about this. You know, unfortunately, a lot of, you know, more recent families, you know, as in more recent days, Jew, A lot of Jewish families aren’t. As you know, when I grew up, I grew up in New York, and I, when I was five years old or six years old, however old you had to be to start this, I went to temple school.

I went to school, you know, on, on the weekends at a temple, and I was graduated, like, you know, confirmed in high school. I mean, you know, at the end, I mean, at the end of this training in the temple, and I’ve been to Israel. I went to Israel for my daughter’s bar mitzvah. Bas mitzvah. We had that in Israel. I’m very dedicated to Israel. I mean, whether you’d want to call me a Zionist, I don’t know. But I’ve been very dedicated all my life. Because you’re. Are you. You’re Jewish, right? So you went to. You grew up Jewish.

And I see. That’s what I think. I just think anything a political state does, doesn’t. It has to be set. But you know what I mean? Like, what a politician does doesn’t equal, like all Jews, but go ahead. Yes, yes, of course I agree with you. But, but when you learn about the Bible and Israel and all of that, Israel is the origin of the Jewish religion. So when you, when you go to any kind of school that teaches about Judaism or even just going to Services, for that matter. You know, and reading the books at services or reading the Bible, you know, you have this, this innate connection to Israel, you know, it’s not really something that is taught per se.

Like you feel it. Do you know what I mean? No, no. And that, but that’s, that’s very fair. Yeah. And there’s so many religious, there’s so many powerful places there that’s different than whoever the current leaders are and the state politicians being the same thing as the place and the people or, or Jewish people around the world. That, I mean, that’s just a separate thing in my opinion. I mean, I, because I, you can’t say, like, if I criticize the, the actions of the state of Israel, like, I don’t, I don’t agree with them on some political opinion or what they do on something that doesn’t mean I don’t agree with Jewish people.

I, to be separate, just like whatever the United States, even though the United Christianity is much broader than the United States, whatever the United States does, doesn’t equate to Christianity. You know what I mean? Right. Yes, yes, well, I agree with that part. But, but what I’m saying is that because families have not been as diligent because we’ve kind of, the society has kind of been just loosey goosey, more loosey goosey in general, you know, the way we talk, talk, the way we dress, it’s not as formal and all that as it was 20 years ago.

So, so they’ve, there isn’t enough of this in instilling the love for Judaism and the love for, for Israel, which again, as I said, it should come and did come naturally. So that’s why in colleges, you know, where there’s a lot of anti Semitism with the protests and all of that, the, the, the students who were Jewish, I mean, there are even some Jewish students in those protests. And that just blows my mind. And it’s really a matter of the parents not having instilled in their children when they were young what Judaism is, what Israel is, all of that.

But don’t you think they should be able to protest? There’s a difference. There should be able to protest what any state government does, including Israel, but then they shouldn’t be able to discriminate and oppress Jewish people, but they should be able to protest what a state of Israel is doing. I realize that all sorts of people are crossing lines there, but from a theoretical, purist standpoint, you should be able to protest Israel. Yes, you should be able to protest that’s my point. But these protests have gone way beyond the First Amendment. You know, they are not, what they’re doing is not covered under the First Amendment.

The violence, the provocation, the, you know, they’ve gone way beyond it. So I, I do think that, that, that, that they should be, that they should be made to be a, a peaceful protest. They shouldn’t be accepted for what they’ve been doing. Doing. They shouldn’t be allowed to continue for what they’ve been doing. So. Okay, so I think, and I’m going to keep iterating this, you got, and I can’t, can’t be any more serious because I know it’s very serious. I think that there’s a lot of work to do for, to bring calmness and rationality to this whole situation and that if it doesn’t happen, it’s going to get even more dangerous.

And this is coming from. I have a lot of Jewish people that I love and respect and I know I’m going to get a lot of hate in my comments for that. And you guys can just go away because I don’t think it’s the same thing. I am not happy with a lot, I don’t agree with a lot of what Israel is doing, but I have a lot of Jewish people that I love and respect. I think there’s a difference. But I do think it’s very serious of what’s happening now and that if there isn’t rationality and, you know, people getting a lot more serious about being rational and, and it’s going to get even more serious.

It’s, it’s very extreme right now. Israel is just fighting for its life, fighting for its right to exist. And that is all that they are doing. They want peace. They don’t want to be in a war. They didn’t want October 7th and they didn’t want any of the previous wars. So, you know, but, but from what you’re saying, you know, as I said, you seem very intelligent and you’ve been able to be, to be propagandized. So I’m, I’m telling you it’s very serious around the whole world. And, and it’s not just me being brainwashed or something.

The entire world is turning against Israel right now. It’s almost biblical. And I, I don’t like, I don’t, I don’t buy into the Armageddon, you know, the end of the world. I don’t buy into that. I think it’s more of transition. I think it’s, we’re going through transitions right now, but I am telling you it is that serious and the information and that what’s coming out there. I don’t think it’s possible for an individual to be able to discern between propaganda and real factual information right now. And that there is extremely intelligent, well meaning Western people showing information that makes Israel look really bad.

That anyone who is, no matter if. And then the most intelligent people would look at that and go, there’s a problem because of how good the information is. Yes, I have to agree with you on that. Yeah. And so I just think that you could. And I mean there’s a serious issue and you can’t put the information is. And that it is a serious issue. I totally agree with you, but I just want to make it clear that I don’t agree that any of these things are true. Well, and that’s fair. And that’s fair. But I also, I want to say that the, the way that it has been that the right media, if you will, have just assumed that Israel’s right and that, you know, kind of saying this is how it is.

They got to change their method of how they’re interacting with the general public because the general, that’s not working on the general public. They have to really start to discuss these things, analyze the information that’s coming out, doing in a respectful way and show, okay, this information. Why break it down and say this information what you think is propaganda and not doing it in an arrogant, in your face, you guys are idiot kind of way. They got to up their game because it’s it, it is. We’re at that point right now. That’s what I’m saying. Yeah, no, I mean I love this conversation because nobody’s having it.

Yes, that’s right. And from somebody as smart and intelligent as you, you’re saying that to me that studies this stuff. I study it too. And so I’m seeing it from all sides and I’m just like, holy crap. And you’re see. I’m just saying it’s, it’s at a point where the game needs a change and they need to communicate differently. Otherwise, otherwise Israel I think is at if, if Israel wants it. I just think the world’s turning against Israel. Well, the world is turning against Jews and that’s wrong. And, and you know, like a lot of time they’ll say Zionists when they really mean Jews.

Well, I didn’t say it that way. Oh no, I’m not saying you did. But, but like, you know, it’s like A people think that they will be, they’ll be, they won’t be criticized for saying Zionists, that these things are Zionists and they’re wrong. And, but really they, they don’t like Jews. I’m not saying that that’s what you’re doing. But, but, but, you know, it’s what’s really worrisome besides for, you know, Israel’s safety is, is all this anti Semitism that, that cropped up and, and you know, it’s, it’s, I mean, and I, and you know, the, the October 7th didn’t cause all this anti Semitism.

It was Obviously there and October 7th just brought it all to the surface. Well, and I think we’re gonna go there. I think that the Rothschilds, the central bankers, everybody thinking that this, the Jewish people running media, central banks, running all this stuff when it’s, I don’t know if that’s actually 100 true. That the central bankers are running, are all Jewish. You know, I, when I study that, it’s not all Jewish. But even if they were majority Jew, it doesn’t mean the average Jew is a central banker or involved in that or even know about Hollywood.

Yeah. Or even at all involved. You know, and that’s what they’re, People are conflating and saying. Yeah. I don’t know. It’s a pretty scary. I, I want to tell you, Carol, I really appreciate you coming to the program and having this conversation. Yes. I never expected. Well, because this is a hard conversation and these are the ones that need to happen because. And in a respectful, open dialogue. Because without it, a lot of people are going to die. Yes. Honestly. No, I agree with you. I agree with you. And you know, and like I said, I, I have some cherished people that I know that are Jewish that I’m seeing them kind of being scared now and people I really care about.

I’m like, that this is. Okay. We need to figure this out, huh? Yes. Yes. And you know, even, even some of the, some of the media, I mean, I mean, I mean, like I was saying, mainstream media, but there are even some people in the media who you would never have expected to come out with some things either anti Israel or anti Jew that are like, you know, shocking. I won’t, I won’t name names, but yeah, it’s, you know, I, I, I have posted, you know, the poem. I have it on my, on my. Oops. On my, on my, on my desktop.

You know, the poem. First they Came. The poem that came from the Holocaust by Martin Niemoller. A pastor or a priest. And first they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I was not communist. Then it goes all the way down. They came for the Jews. I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me. So, you know, people, People need to remember that with. And we, we need to get. Have more rational conversations and these. Extreme. That’s why I keep saying, I think there’s extreme, and I think war brings out extreme because if somebody killed my kid or killed somebody in my family or someone I loved, I might get extreme, you know, and the next thing you know, now you’re dealing.

You’re creating extremists on all sides, and they, they can’t think rationally because all they want is revenge. Yes. You know, and you as a therapist, that’s what isn’t. Okay. Is that the basis of a terrorist? Is it that? Well, yes. I mean, the terrorists have chosen the most radical parts of the Quran and the Hadith, and, and they, you know, you know, try saying like, what I was saying before about destroying Israel and killing Jews, but it’s not, you know, and so they, so that’s why with, with October 7th, they were so. They were zealots. They were fueled.

You know, if you look at their eyes, if they weren’t wearing their goggles, you know, the ones when you could see their eyes, they were like. It was like they were on crack. Maybe they were on a crack, but, you know, they were just like, so fired up because they thought they were doing the holiest thing they could do to please Allah and, and to be rewarded in heaven and all that, to be martyrs. Like, they didn’t care if they died. I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they didn’t care if they were willing to take the risk of dying and being martyrs so that they could honor Allah and be welcomed into heaven with all these rewards.

And so, you know, so that’s very scary when you have people that. Driven by a religion. I mean, Judy, there’s nothing in Judaism that teaches you to go. Just go into other countries or destroy other people or rape other people. I mean, or torture or bake babies or none of that. But it’s in their religion. Well, I just think it shouldn’t be. Even the, the moderate, you know, Muslims, right, they don’t believe in that stuff. It’s. It’s the extremists that are believing in this stuff. Well, okay. But, you know, the thing is. And I always say, like on my, my podcast, I try to always remember to say not all terrorists are Muslims and not all Muslims are terrorists.

But it is kind of unfortunate that there isn’t more, you know, there aren’t many Muslims coming out and criticizing these extreme Muslims. That’s, that’s right. There needs to be more standing out and, and saying stuff. Let me ask you, since you’re Jewish, most the, the Jewish people have been traditionally Democrat. Yeah. How have you felt over the last, you know, years here of watching. There must be a really. Have you felt about that and how. What are your, you know, the community of Jewish people feeling about the fact that the Democrats are different and what’s going on there? Yes, it’s very interesting.

I mean, I think it is true that originally, you know, Jews were typically more, more likely to be Democrat because, because the Democratic Party was different, you know, in those days because Jews were, were very much into, like, helping people, you know, believing in, in the things that Democrats used to believe in before they became extremists, you know, to help people and to, in various different ways and all that. And, and then, and, and, you know, I assumed when Trump ran the first time, I assumed that all Jews would realize that, that he would be the best for Israel and would want to vote for Trump.

Trump. And I remember walking into this meeting, I was on the, I was on the board of the American Friends of Magen David Adom, which is the Israeli Red Cross. I was on the board in the west coast and I walked into a meeting and somehow we were talking politics and I, like, said something assuming that everybody, of course, you know, these are people who love Israel and they’re there. That’s why they’re on the board for this, this organization. I, I assumed that they would all want Trump now. And I was kind of blown away when some of the people said bad things about him, didn’t work in a vote for him.

I actually fought with my mother when Trump ran the first time. I mean, unfortunately, she was deceased by the time she died at 101 and a half before he ran the second time. But she lived a long life that was good. And we would be sometimes arguing about, in good fun, though. Not like arguing people really argue. Not like, you know, but we would be laughing about, and we’d be sometimes sitting in restaurants and talking about this and people would be looking. But anyhow, so because, and it was because she did vote during her life, I think she always voted Democrat that.

But, and I don’t know that these people who didn’t want. Well, I mean, I guess they didn’t vote for Trump. I don’t know what they usually voted for, but they probably typically voted Democrat. But anyhow, you know, it is, it is a problem for people. I mean, a lot of people in the Democratic Party have come over to, to become Republicans because they say, I don’t recognize the Democratic Party anymore. Independence, right. Because they’re like, yeah, or independence like, this isn’t what I signed up for, to be like this. Because, you know, they’re, they’re. Because it’s not really Democrat.

It’s like Marxist. And that’s not, you know, what they want this country to turn into. We want freedom. I’m, I’m more libertarian. I’m not even really libertarian, but I’m about liberty and freedom. And so I just. Like what. I’m independent. I say I’m independent because I’m looking at all sorts of things. And. But the Republican Party is the only party that allows you to have independent thought right now. And so that’s why everyone is kind of moving to that. Who’s more independent thinking because it’s the only party that allows you to think independently. Right, right. Right.

I’ve been working these last two or three months on, on defining Trump Derangement Syndrome so that I can submit it to. I was about to do it one. I think it’s real. It’s like a real thing. Absolutely. It’s a real. Yes. So I wanted to submit it to the American Psychiatric association to put it in their Diagnostic and Statistical manual. And then I was about to do it when. When this whole Iran thing happened. So I’ve gotten a little delayed, but that’s my plan. Well, I would love to see that and I’ll publish that. Okay. I will remember that.

I will make sure you get a copy. I’m actually making a website. I’ve started making a website that it’s just, it’s just awaiting the final copy, really, but it’s going to have that on it. And there’s going to be a quiz where people can. Because I divided it into mild, moderate and severe, so people can take the quiz and figure out what they are. And I’m, I’m trying to do this not, you know, not to be a wise guy or not to be super political. Of course it’s political. But, but to, to acknowledge that there are people who have gone off the rails.

And also, like, the DSM is used not only as a, like a dictionary to help mental health professionals talk to each other. So that they’re talking about the same thing when they talk about different disorders. But it’s also for insurance companies to decide what they’re going to pay for. So for those people who have TDS and who recognize it and go for help, if it’s in the dsm, they could have a chance of getting it paid for by insurance, no problem. Problem is, yeah, probably that most people who have TDS don’t want to admit that they have tds.

But, you know, the way that they might admit it, besides checking on the quiz, is that a lot of marriages, there have been a lot of divorces because of tds. You know, one person is against so severely against Trump and the other person isn’t. And then there are workplace issues and, you know, it’s really all over. So. Yeah, I mean, if you can’t keep your marriage together because you dislike Trump so much, then there’s an issue. Right. I mean, my, my sister and I have different politics and during COVID and everything else, but we still said, okay, we’re going to push this aside because I love you and I, I’m not going to let that are extremely opposite on this, but I’m not going to let that destroy our relationship.

Yes. I have some friends who, you know, are opposite me who don’t like Trump, who think I’m crazy. They think I’m crazy. But, but we’ve pushed it aside and we just don’t talk about that. Or we talk, if we talk about it a little bit, it’ll be like in a kind of a funny way, like, you know, I don’t know, just making some joke about it. But no, the friendship is worth much more than. That’s right. And 10 years from now, you can look back and it’ll be a little bit More hindsight being 2020 and you can, we can see it clearer.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Where do people follow you? And I mean, you have this terrorism pod. Is it once a week? I try to do it once a week. Sometimes it’s every other week or, or longer when I’ve been writing this Trump derangement syndrome thing on. But where can they find it? Well, the main, my main website or the, my permit preferred website right now is my terroristtherapist.com website. And there, you know, there we have the videos and also my book Lions and tigers and terrorists. Oh my. How to protect your child in a time of terror, which is, you know, part for grownups and the picture book for kids.

And then where else can they find me? I have, I’M an expert witness so expert witness forensics psychiatrist.com is another one of my websites. I’m not going to give out my Trump website yet because because it isn’t finished. But but Twitter, my Twitter handle is at Dr. CarolMD so at Dr. Carol is C A R O L E M day and I I usually typically in the morning I wake up, I read a bunch of stuff and I rant about the thing that gets me the most angry. Yeah. Well thank you so much for joining. Thank you for being a trooper and doing this conversation with me like this too.

I really appreciate I think there needs this is a conversation needs to be happening everywhere instead of people digging their heels in and having their camps and getting nowhere and just creating more division. This is the kind of conversations people need to have. Yes, I agree. This was very interesting. Yeah. Well thank you so much. All right. Thank you Sam.
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