Neocon Revival: Why War Hawks Like Nuland and Bolton Never Go Away w/ Joe Hoft

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Okay, back to the program. Welcome to business Game changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have Joe Hoft coming in the program. His name might be familiar to people because his brother runs the Gateway Pundit. They are twins, Jim Hoft and Joe Hoft and he the reason I wanted him on his extensive background. He has a financial background, a very deep one and he also understands geopolitics. I wanted to talk to him about the fact that so much of geopolitics is financially driven and know we start with Victoria Newland. He had a article about what was going on in Ukraine.

He says there’s a a post that he included in the article. It says if you see this woman in your country, be prepared for a civil war. And that’s true. I mean you can talk about others too, like John Bolton. If he comes to your country, be prepared for your country to be bombed. And so the question is, and I ask him this, who do these people really work for? And I mean they go through and they create these color revolutions and they create this turmoil you overseas. But now we’re starting to see, are we not starting.

We have seen for a while now that same phenomena that followed Victoria Newland around is here in the United States. That’s what we’re experiencing. And we had so much calm and peace. Even though things weren’t always calm and peaceful, we essentially were calm and peaceful compared to the last five years or maybe eight years. And it’s been escalating, right. I suppose since 2020. It’s escalated. I don’t know. I think it’s maybe calmed down a little bit since 2020, but I don’t. No, I mean, I think we’re waiting for it to escalate again. I think people are tired of it and they’re fatigued and we’re starting to get smarter and we’re not allowing it to escalate and we’re starting to see through a lot of this.

Hopefully with your, with people learning about what psychological operations and psyops are, what a fifth generation warfare is, what mind control is, how you’re being fed narratives that you’re learning to not get sucked into that and act upon it and maybe take a step back and go, okay, we need to have better discernment. And I, I think, I think that’s what’s happening. Less people are being riled up and controlled by these narratives and are starting to think through it and see through it and demanding that we have integrity in our government, which we don’t. I mean frankly, we don’t have that.

I, I talk about that today with him that it doesn’t seem like even today, no matter how much we, we report on it and show the truth, nothing ever gets done. And what do we do about that? He believes it all comes back to elections. And we talk a little bit about that. I don’t know. And it gives fuel to the fire where people say nothing matters because it’s just one party or what are we going to do it? You know, government is just a corrupt thing run by these puppet masters above starts to seem like that when they never do anything.

Right. But it wasn’t always like that. And we used to have control over our, the state and what happens and the city elections and how much can we get control of it if we wasn’t so corrupt. So we have some of those conversations, but really wanted to talk about these color revolutions and what does that mean and how does that relate back to us? But before I get into that, I want to talk to you about my substack and my locals. I am mirroring my substack now on my locals. So whatever you’re seeing on substack you can get on Locals.

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Even if there’s suppression, we can get to others through word of mouth. Okay, well, let’s get into this fantastic conversation that I have with Joe Hoft from the Gateway Pundit and from his own show and books, joff.com okay, let’s get into the interview now. Hi, Joe. Welcome to the program. Hey, great to be here. Really, really great to be here. Thanks. Well, I wanted to talk to an expert on geopolitics worldwide, global zoom out, look at the world, figure things out, because we have a global economic reset, really, that’s going on. And reset, I don’t know if it’s really the right word.

It’s just the monetary system as it is today is kind of ending its life. Right. It’s been pushed along for a while. It probably should have shifted maybe a decade or so ago, but this happens every hundred years or so and we are in the middle of one and the power shifts and the struggles are different because the technology is different, the people’s different, everything’s different. But it’s very real and I so I wanted to bring you on but before we dive into that can you tell people you’re amazing and extensive background. Thanks again. Thanks so much for having me.

Sarah. The so my background goes back I get you know, have quite a career really doing various things. First of all, probably the biggest thing that I could probably say start with my education. I got like 10 degrees or designations including CPA, BA etc. Been published in in academia back during the day and then jumped into the corporate world and was in St. Louis predominantly for large part of my career worked at both in the banking industry and insurance industries and basically finance. At one point I oversaw a multi billion dollar block of business the financial reporting for that multi million dollar blocks to real complex block that we were looking at a growing company out of St.

Louis that was going geographically and that was that was neat. And then I was in auditing as well. So auditing finance is kind of my strength and and was running at 1.2 I was stationed over in Hong Kong for about 10 years overseeing the auditing for a multi billion dollar block of business as well. So had extensive meetings with executives, board members, audit committees, risk committees, been on a number of these been you know, CFO controller jobs and a lot of he work in in the corporate arena. I’ve done audits around the world. I’ve done audits in in the United States of course but I don’t know how many countries, maybe 30 countries.

I’ve done audits from it because I also have a certification in IT audit IT compliance fraud operations and and financial as well. So learned a lot and that all led me then into writing with my brother Jim at the Gateway pundit and in 2016 we both fell in love with Trump. And so I started writing even though I had a full time position overseas in Hong Kong. Bought an article a day. Had some real success with that because I’m telling you and maybe you know this there’s not many people in the journalist journalism area that even have a any comprehension of what’s going on financially.

So I had a lot of great you know what I mean? I do know yes. And had a lot of success with Trump with his then his presidency and then a lot of success writing about the Russia collusion. And I’ve got some then people started reaching out to me some real Smart people. They wanted to remain anonymous, but gave me great tips on what’s going on. I’m over in Hong Kong addressing this. Then came back to the States in 2020, started writing full time with my brother Jim at the Gateway Pundit. Really focused on Covid, outed a lot of lies about that.

And then came the 2020 election and just dropped bombs on that daily just how, how ludicrous these results were. From my perspective as a corporate executive auditor, this stuff was outrageous, and we were just dropping bombs. I eventually wrote three books about the election. They’re behind me. I called them the Steel. And. And my perspective was it was. And. And as an auditor, an executive who’s done audits around the world, this thing never should have been certified. And that’s the premise over and over throughout this book. And for this reason, it never should have been certified.

Whether. Whichever area you look at, it never should have been certified. And. And a warning today is that our elections haven’t. Haven’t improved much since then. So that’s maybe something we can talk about, too. Well, I saw an article that you wrote about Victoria Newland. You said, if this. You see this woman in your country, be prepared for a civil war. And you could probably make the same statement about John Bolton, except maybe the statement would be maybe be prepared for your country to be bombed. And so what. I really want to dive into that a little bit with your background, which is so extensive and you’re so right that there’s so few people that are looking at this big picture and seeing it from a financial perspective, because almost everything is financially, it really is.

And I have been watching this and seeing these countries and this power struggle, really, it’s a power struggle for resources and control of when this thing falls and lands. Everybody wants to land on the side of the power. Right. I think that’s what’s happening. And so the negotiations are not. Are not really rational in my mind, because the. The power struggle is what’s behind all this. So that rational negotiations aren’t necessarily happening. But when you look at someone like Victoria Nuland, who, civil wars tend to follow her, which tells me that she’s more than just somebody that works for the State Department or.

I mean, what organization is she really working for and what are the goals of these people? Well, she’s got such a story there, too, I think about her. There’s another, like a tweet that was going around, you know, on Twitter showing her as a young woman, she was an attractive lady, and showing her today says this is what, you know, decades working for the deep state will make you just into a monster. And that’s what she really was. You know, we can go back. First I probably heard about her was in Ukraine with the, the revolution there under Obama that she was basically running.

She made the pick basically of the. Who was going to run that country after this when this thing was over. And you saw people like McCain going there and others and, and she really orchestrated a lot of that. There was that famous call that she had with some guy who about, about saying all these nasty things. And so she’s been in the middle of that for a long time. I think she felt like she got snubbed here under Biden a bit and maybe that’s why she kind of stepped aside more. But just. Well, don’t you think that, don’t you think she was a political liability because she was too known to be a monster? And so they probably have other monsters lined up just who aren’t as known.

Yeah, well, that said, isn’t it, these people get into these roles and they think that they’re going to become queen or king or something. It’s just nonsense. It doesn’t matter who you are and what type of, I’ll call it a communist type of community or fascist group. It doesn’t matter who you are. Eventually we can, we can get rid of you just like that. That’s right. Under Mao and etc. So you’re so right. They think that they’re, you know, they get to a place where they think they’re, you know, all powerful and they’re just, they find out that they’re not either.

You know, nobody is in these, these entities and, and they’re pretty, you know, and it’s just gross, you know. Well, your power comes through and actually, maybe there isn’t much power in this, but your power comes through integrity over time and just keep plugging away and being, you know, true to, with integrity and you gain power as an indirect thing. Not that power is the goal because it never, I mean it, it just doesn’t matter because you’re just trying to go for integrity. But now I look at that and go, right now it doesn’t feel like it gives you anything.

But, you know, I’m glad you, I’m glad you said that though, because I think that’s absolutely it in journalism today. You know, there’s people that throw stuff up and it’s just for hits. It’s just for, you know, it’s fantasy. Some of it that’s not based on anything. You can’t prove it. And you might get some hits for a while, but you’re going to be known as a clown in the long run. I think a lot of these people like that, by the way, I think are connected to the deep state they come in to push these narratives that are garbage.

Take us over here. Look. Squirrel kind of thing. And, and people look. And, you know, the forest is on fire and we’re all staring at a, at a squirrel run across the grass, you know. Yeah, isn’t it? And, and so, yeah, integrity, though, consistently focused on the fire. How are we going to put this out? Day after day after day, dropping, you know, like I said earlier, bombs about the 2020 election or about COVID or whatever, that you’re right, that brings you power. And I’m really, I really like you saying that. I think it’s important to remember that, too.

Integrity is everything in this business. I think integrity is everything in life. Striving for that, you know, just being that person that you try to be. And it’s hard. Right? But that’s what it’s about. And so those of us who are trying the best we can, you have to identify these patterns. And I think that’s what you’re seeing are. And writing about is just the patterns that you’re seeing. And that’s why I like that quote so much. You see this woman in your country, you’re about to have a civil war. But it goes. Because it’s a pattern, but it goes beyond her.

It. It’s. Because there’s other. She’s been replaced. And it’s not that that pattern hasn’t been changed. It’s just who’s leading. It probably changes. And what is the goals. And I mean, you hear about color revolutions. The CIA is putting people through color countries through color color revolutions. What is their goal? To constantly destabilize countries. Do we ever achieve the goal that they claim to be achieving, or is there some other nefarious goal? Boy, that’s a good question. And, and by the way, your statement, I’m thinking there’s a phrase that I really love, mate. You’ve probably heard it.

People of integrity expect to be believed, and when they’re not, they let time prove them right. And I, you know, that’s how it is. And it’s really, it’s tough because if you’re, if you’re out there leading the charge for integrity, you’re going to get hit and you’re going to get slammed. You’re going to get defamed. You know, Jim put up a piece this morning at Gateway Pundit listing all the censorship, shadow banning, etc that the Gateway pun has gone through. It’s just, it’s just, you look at it, it’s just never ending. It just keeps coming. And it’s because it’s not because the stuff we’ve reported is bogus.

It’s because the stuff reported is the truth and they hate the truth. And we. That’s the enemy to these people. It’s the truth. And we. And, and so information is so important. And I, I heard, when I was over in Hong Kong, I heard a speech by Ban and he got on, of all places, MSNBC towards the beginning of Trump’s administration. He shared this, but he said there’s three types of war today. He says information, economic and then kinetic, the actual, you know, bombing, etc, and he goes, china’s good at all three, quite frankly. And especially they’re underrated on their information and economic.

But I think he, that, that kind of awakened me. I didn’t really realize so much how important information is. And that’s why they hate the new media. That’s why they tried to, you know, shut us down every chance they can and still are. And because the truth is so, so important. And yet it’s, I think it’s part of our human experience, it’s part of this journey here that we seek the truth. Humans do. Jim gave, got an award once and gave this speech. I thought it was great. He said, talked about Radio Free Europe back in the day, and people would listen to these shows and, and then the Russians would, would jam the channel so that they would go to another frequency and people would find it.

And, and his thesis was people will search for the truth, they will work for the truth. And I think that’s what we’ve seen in the US with the new media, which is used now throughout social media. Thank God. Twitter’s now really a strong, has a strong presence. I don’t think it’s perfect yet. I think there’s still shadow banning and stuff going on. They are, but it’s so much better. And, and all the platforms, but it’s these shows like this, it’s sites like Gateway Pundit that is what is really growing like crazy. And it’s because people will seek this truth out and, and share it.

And, and, you know, one thing I, you know, one thing that hit me, Sarah, is before this 2024 election is word of mouth is still really, really powerful. Sitting down and talking to people over dinner and stuff like that. I think maybe that’s where the most information is shared and people are becoming informed. Maybe better, some not so much worse. But, you know, sitting down, people share a lot. And I still think that’s something that can never stop, you know. Do you think we’re becoming wiser because we, as you start learning the truth and you’re running and stumbling into some of these things, some of the most shocking stuff is thrown at us, right.

And when you first start, this is the growth of the Internet and you first start experiencing and seeing some of these things, you don’t know how to really discern what’s truth or not. And are we growing up and starting to be able to discern this? Because it seems that there are, you know, the squirrel comment you made earlier, there are people that are just going crazier and crazier to try to get clicks. Right. It’s just crazy, right? Are we starting to have some discernment to realize, yeah, some of this stuff is really nuts, guys, but we need to have discernment on what is the truth, nutty stuff versus this is just to get you, you know, clickbait, and it’s just off the deep end? Yeah.

Well, great question. I think the thing that happened, you know, for me personally, and maybe the gateway pundit as well, is that I wanted to. You want to be accurate? I want to be accurate in everything I do. If we didn’t, like, if we find out something’s garbage, we will take it down. But over a period of time, you. There’s certain sources that you just feel like you can trust. And that’s built, like you said, through this process time period. And that’s how you really push then stories based on the truth tellers and somebody that comes new, somebody that even if they’ve got a ton of hits or whatever, a ton of followers, to me, that doesn’t mean anything.

I think a lot of people on social media are being lifted by. By the deep state. They’ve got a lot of followers. They may be all bogus. We learned that and we see how they manipulate the media. Like during COVID it was just pushed through Italy to the US to shut down and things like that. So, you know, again, another example to why information is so powerful. And it is. I mean, that’s why our founders said, if you don’t, you know, you’ll be sheep led to the slaughter without information. I mean, that is very true. And we were.

We were. Absolutely. We were. Yeah. And maybe, you know, we’re still trying to work our way out of that, you know, and there’s still, you know, it’s challenges. I think we’re in a war right now. Thankfully. Thankfully. Because I talked to some, a real smart guy a couple years back during the Biden regime, and he said, oh, no, this country’s are. Is. He said, no, the country’s already been taken over. Now these people are just fighting for which part they’re going to take. People are entities. And I thought, my God, what a statement. It sounds so just disheartening, terrible.

But I think there was something to that. When I look back at Biden’s regime, we know that he wasn’t running it. That was a lie. I feel like the election was alive. Him getting in there in the first place, maybe now a blessing, but was certainly a lie. A lot of people suffered, some died, some people committed struggle, suicide rather than go to prison. January6, for example, that were unjustly attacked. So. But everything he did to me seemed to help somebody other than the U.S. china. Every. Every move Biden made, I thought did not hurt China.

Every move. So, yeah, it was a crazy. You know, I talk to people and I have a weekly show with Andy Shechman on the global economics, and it’s as if they were accelerating the demise of the United States in our financial system. Wow. I agree. I agree in everything. In everything, though the border, the laws, filling up, the courts with these insane judges. They’re not. They’re not real. They’re not that. Nobody thinks that way. You know, when you’ve got people that are, you know, saying judges that just in the last few months saying, oh, no, you don’t have.

We’re not going to push this thing that you have to be a citizen to vote. You know, going against Trump’s executive order on that. How does that make any sense at all? It’s unconstitutional. There’s no basis for it where, you know, this is the kind of destruction that’s been so terror, you know, terrible that. But it’s not like. It’s not like traditional Democrats. I keep saying this is not liberalism. It’s like the Carney being elected in Canada. You guys didn’t elect a liberal person like you normally would. You elected a globalist. Somebody that’s. He said in 2019, he was going that the central bankers in Jacksonville, Wyoming, he said, we are going to go around governments and set budgets for them based on carbon credits.

I am paraphrasing, but he said that famously in 20. Yeah, they elected that guy. That’s not liberalism. And so our country, there’s. There’s people through information warfare, are being duped into supporting people they never would have supported in the past. Yeah, they’re not getting the right information. And they’re. Yeah, they’re just. So. I, you know, but I think that numbers less and less, I think. And, you know, especially, by the way, I love what Trump did with this guy yesterday in the White House. He just. What did he do? Tell us what he did, because I haven’t.

That would be good for people to learn. Well, a couple clips. Yeah. So Carney shows up President Trump, sits down with them, gets the media there in the Oval Office. Must be intimidating as hell for anybody who’s sitting there. It doesn’t matter who you are. Sure. This, this Carney guy walked in with a. Certainly some arrogance. Just thought he’s going to school Trump like all these lefties do, all these lefty. This guy’s a son. This guy’s a global central banker. Okay. Absolutely. Absolutely. But they all think they’re smarter than Trump. They believe the media that says Trump’s just a dummy.

And, and they all get schooled by this guy with walking in with that belief. The first step in stepping into a meeting is understanding who you’re with. And they, they don’t. They. They ignore the, the new media. They ignore the truth. So Trump Carney made these comments about the, the relationship with the US and how cars that are coming into the US from Canada, about 50% of their parts are from the U. S. He’s trying to say. And, And Trump would have nothing, nothing to do with that. His comments were. They. There was actually question raised of Trump.

So is there anything we can do to get rid of these tariffs? And Trump just says, nope. Carney’s sitting there. He’s been. He just said no. He didn’t say anything else. He was just silent. That was it. He said no. And then he grabbed his suit jacket and kind of tucked it together like, like the boss, you know, and this Carnie guy sitting next to him. And online, you’re seeing these tweets this morning with Trump saying that. And the crown comes down, the sunglasses go on Trump. And you hear, da, da, da, da, da. You know, like the boss is.

Is here. And he’s, he’s, you know, he’s laying it out. And you could see each time Trump spoke, Carney just kind of shrank in his seat more and more. Walks in with this confidence that he’s going to blow Trump away and got just blasted out of the water because Trump knows he’s got all the cars, this. And Trump knows we. And he kept going, we are funding you. We’re giving you 200 billion a year. That’s the trade deficit with Canada every year. And we’re not going to do it anymore. And that’s just the way it is.

And, sorry, I’m standing up for the people of America. This guy thinks that Trump’s just going to be like the rest of these presidents before him and just allow this to continue. And Trump’s like, no, no, we’re not going to do this anymore. We’re subsidizing you. And then he mentioned about the military. He says, you’re not paying your fair share of the military at all. We’re. We’re protecting you. And he said, well, it’s. And it’s not. But he clarified it. He said, it’s not an economic thing. We’re gonna, you know, you’re our partners, our friends. We are going to protect you.

But it’s not fair. We are doing this plus subsidizing you in the, you know, around 200 billion a year or whatever. And we don’t want to do this anymore. We want something more fair and legitimate. And I think that his message was, was clear. This guy Carney was totally outmatched. Totally. What do you think? Because under Trudeau there, there was an agreement that Troll made, Turdo made with the Chinese government for the Chinese military to come in and protect their own assets, which are vast. And so there’s actually agreement that’s been published between the Chinese and the Canadian governments for the Chinese military to protect their own assets in Canada.

So there’s a large Chinese military presence there. Yeah. Well, I think that’s a great point that you make, that this is why Trump came out even before he stepped in during the inauguration, to say, hey, we’re going to make Canada the 51st state. We are going to take. We’re going to. We’re going to, you know, take over Greenland and we’re going to take over the Panama Canal. All three things were key to pushing back China. And you mentioned at the very beginning here how there’s this. People want to be on the winning side. They always do.

That’s just maybe human smart. It’s self preservation. Right. When Biden came in, remember, after Afghanistan, and I Talked to former U.S. rep. Michele Bachman about this, she called the Biden regime the regime of. Of death. Because everything they did, people died. It seemed that she was saying, but on Afghanistan, when that debacle occurred, awful countries Started jumping on China’s ship and the BRICs, etc. Saudi Arabia, all these, you know, and, you know, and, and that was due to Biden’s folly. And people just. These countries are just like, we’re with the US but this doesn’t look good.

It’s getting destroyed. Maybe they knew that China was running the U.S. i don’t know. But now Trump comes in already. I think the world has changed. And not only that, but he’s standing up against China. But standing up against China was taking back the Panama Canal just doing it. He didn’t. He just did it. China is not supposed to be there, according to him, and it’s ours and we’re going to take it over. Similar with Greenland. He. It. I believe it all relates to China. We didn’t want, he didn’t want China taken over Greenland. It’s got a lot of assets there, my understanding, maybe some of these really important minerals or whatever.

And he doesn’t want China there. And so that was a big part of that and I guess as well with Canada. Think about. Those are the three places he targeted in, you know, in this hemisphere. And they all, they all involve China. Just a quick break from your programming so I can give you a little information about Masterpiece. They are the masters at removing toxins and heavy metals and aluminum and microplastics out of your bloodstream, out of your body. We are being bombarded with this crap from all over the place and we need to get it out of our bodies that you are more susceptible to every disease imaginable when that’s in your bloodstream.

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Whose family was still in Afghanistan. She was refugee and she was serving us breakfast. I’m like, wow. Okay. So I started having this conversation with her and she was saying they’re trying to get her family out. She says it’s like a death in the streets. It’s a killing field. People are dead everywhere. I mean, it was, it was A slaughterhouse. That’s what this waitress was telling me. It’s like, wow, you know, and some of this stuff, people weren’t, wasn’t here, were not hearing the media was not talking about it. It was a, a travesty beyond a travesty.

But beyond that. You said countries saw that and were horrified and they started moving away. But don’t we have a problem in this country that it’s a yang and the yang kind of thing, that they can’t count on our country for long term because we, one side comes in, they go out, the next side comes in and there’s executive orders through the, you know, wazoo. And Congress doesn’t ever ratify or change the laws to embed these things long term. It’s like we have a sitting duck Congress right now. Even though the Republicans dominate the all, you know, all the branches, they still are doing nothing.

I, I agree, I agree. 120. It does come down to that. To me. That’s, that’s why I’ve worked so hard personally on the election arena, seeing what happened in 2020, seeing how elections can be, can be stolen, they can be certified. There’s so many holes from a professional auditing perspective. Okay, maybe I can just share this if you told me. Yeah, no, this is great. We had to do. Well, one, there’s a couple things. One, we had to do what was called sovereignty, Oxley. Every year we had to adhere with this law, this regulation that came in the early 2000s and what it said after Enron went under and, and I believe was WorldCom, they changed.

They said, well, we, we need, we need to do some, some more here because people lost a lot of money on this. So what Congress did is said through this regulation that every corporation has to not just ensure for their financials that those financials are accurate, that you’ve got proof for every invoice and every dollar that you’re counting in your financials when you prepare them, everything has, etc, but also now your processes that are involved in the financial process. Anything involved in the financials has to be perfect. And it has to be whether it’s your systems, whether it’s your processes as things come in the door, whatever, whatever it is that you do to come up to that final number that, that adds up to that number has to be not just perfect.

You’ve got to test it every year. And if it’s not, if it’s not right, you’ve got to fix it. You cannot have a single item, a single control. We’ll call it out of, in a major corporation, we’re talking a thousand or more key controls that are going to impact your financials. A lot of systems controls, a lot of other controls involved in these processes. So that’s the world we live in now in finance. And I, in my experience, I thought it was very, it was well done, at least in the places I worked. It had to be perfect.

We tested this stuff. We did everything. Businesses, right. Businesses can’t afford to be messing around because the consequences of not doing a good job in that way is the end of your business. Yeah. They made it so that CEO and CFO would be. If your company blows up financially, you guys can go to prison and find. So it became pretty serious and everybody worked really hard at that. We had to figure out how to even do it. So after looking at 2020’s election, I stepped back with a group of people and we started saying, okay, let’s look at all the processes, let’s look at all the key controls and let’s just try to do something similar.

What I did 20 years ago in the corporate world. And when we came up with this inventory, which, you know, it’s, there’s probably, if people look at it, they’re going to, they’re going to nitpick it for sure. But I thought it was pretty good. It was pretty solid. Listed about 13 key processes involved in elections like voter rolls and machines and, and, and mail in ballots, etc. All the things we’ve heard about, let’s put these categories, let’s look at the subcategories there and then let’s look at the controls that are involved. We came up with around 500 controls, let’s say and out of those 500 in the election process we, we estimated again, not perfect, but I think the overall answer is pretty accurate.

About a third of those controls are, are even in place. So in the corporate world you can have none out of a thousand. A thousand have to be in place before you can sign, before the external auditor sign off on your financials. In the election world, two thirds aren’t even there. And we’re, and we’re, we’re built, you know, our media is pushing this, that our elections are great. That’s the biggest lie. That’s why we end up with Congresses that don’t represent the people. And they knew because back in 2016 or before they were pushing that the election was rigged and everything else.

So. Right. They knew, so they were purposely lying. That’s the kind of stuff I just, it it’s so awful when someone purposely lies and they were purposely lying. I had a group of over 500 data scientists and mathematicians that were looking at all. Wasn’t that complicated really, but they were looking at all the elections across the entire United States. They had pretty much everything figured out, and nobody would talk to them. Like, there’s this group of really good people. Why are we not utilizing them? Right. Yeah. So for me, it was. It was frustrating to watch this.

It was as if nobody wants it fixed. Question is the key question. It really is. Because if we can’t protect our elections, we’re done. And I’ve talked to people that are really smart people and have said that, that our elections are equivalent to, like, nuclear warfare. I mean, whoever wins takes over the nukes. And this is, this is how important elections are. We’re treating them, like I said, two thirds of the controls aren’t even. We’re treating them like some little, you know, a day out, you know, at the beach or something. It’s. It’s. They’re not. There’s a.

They’re as important or more important than everything else, because whoever run wins. That can do what Biden did. You can throw people in prison. You can give up Afghanistan, you can allow soldiers over there to get bombed. You can do insane things with the border. You can destroy the economy. Like you were saying, everything can be done through these elections. So if you’re a foreigner and you’re. Let’s just, let’s just say World Economic Forum or China or whoever you might be, the globalist, the great, the. The community that hates America, you’re going to target on those elections.

Oh, well, that’s why the elections down crazy, right? And we’re just, we’re in the middle of information warfare in super. Absolutely. Well, think about this. Here’s. Here’s another point. And I could talk about this stuff all day, but in 2024, Trump wins by a landslide on election night. And I. And it was unbelievable. You know, I couldn’t believe it because I know how it was more than that and because, I mean, we didn’t fix it. Absolutely. So, I mean, really, there, There were indications. Here’s. Here’s how I would measure the indications. It’s not the polls that they have in the election, because they are all garbage.

Something even said Kamala was ahead going into the election. It was crazy. It was crazy that she was so pathetic. And we’re all supposed to believe this is what the communists did? Like Lenin, when he takes over, you win an election you win another one, you win another one, people stop voting. And you get demoralized more than anything, too. You think, oh, my God, we’re voting for that. Are you kidding me? Totally demoralization with Joe Biden. We know that he wasn’t in charge, but it was so demoralizing seeing this awkward, weird, crooked, sick old man walking around.

It was so terrible. He actually crapped his pants when he went on an official outing. Yeah, you could see him walking off the. That’s slowly. I mean, I know, I know you gotta laugh because you can’t. Well, it was so bad. We were just. And, and at the same time, though, behind the scenes, his. That whoever was running this was just using the auto pin and just destroying this country. It was just brutal. You know, the polls would show, though. There was one. Here’s a couple polls. Rasmussen, I think is pretty good. I’ve talked to those guys and they came out with the poll about a year after the election.

62% of Americans thought the election was rigged in 2020. I’m surprised it wasn’t 92. I mean, why wasn’t higher? But I agree, sometimes I think their numbers are a bit low, actually. And, and another poll that came out was 65 at about the same time, said that the election, that January 6th was a setup. 65%. Now, the beautiful thing is they weren’t getting that from our media because our media was pounding people every day, saying it was insurrection. President Trump’s an enemy of the state day after day. They had a Soviet show trial to prove it to people.

It was unbelievable. And then they destroy half the information that they received. And nobody’s charged to this day, too, by the way. This is frustrating a lot. See, now that’s. Now that’s the thing. Same with COVID same with that. Why. And they have control of the Congress. Why are they neutered? Well, I will go back. Here’s. Here’s my answer. It’s important. It’s really important. It’s everything. Why do we have these crazy judges? Because of the elections. Because why is the House such a slim majority? I’ve done a study. Here’s a. In Orange County, California, and I started.

Some people I knew about, they were telling me about, it’s the sixth largest county in America, and this is in the 2024 election. Okay, but first, somebody had written me and shared this. This study they did on the voter rolls in California. They say, we think there’s almost 20% of the people on the voter rolls are not citizens. And they’re and it’s based on the fact that what they do in California is if you go in to get a driver’s license, they automatically shoot you into the voter row. Well, they’re giving driver’s license to illegals. And then.

But they say, oh, yeah, but, you know, but we, it’s not, it’s not checked. What we found was that if you don’t check the box that says you’re a US Citizen, which many illegals won’t because they don’t want to highlight the fact that they’re not a citizen. So they just don’t check any box. If there’s no box checked, you’re automatically assumed to be a citizen. We’re going to throw you in the voter rolls. Yeah. So these guys and, and they go, the Democrat Party loves you. We want you here. We’ll protect you. We’ll give you all these things.

These people hate you. Now go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now vote. Well, here’s what I think actually happens. They throw these names into the voter roll. So this, this guy, these guys did a study. They looked at the number of people that were naturalized versus number of people that are being added to the voter rolls that are. That we could tell because there’s a field that says where were you born? And they would say another country. So they could look at the number of people born outside the US and number naturalized. And if they added up about.

They believed a year ago or so that it was about 3.8 million out of 22 million people in California are probably not citizens that are in these voter rolls. And so 2024 comes along in Orange County. I could go on and tell you a story about this, but what happened was I was notified, hey, they’re trying to cure some ballots to get. There’s. It’s a big county. It’s six. Six largest in the country. It’s just below la. It’s all conservative. It’s. It’s red. And there’s six US House seats. Seats. It just, they’re voted on in just that county, six.

So it’s really important. And they’ve always been read until 2018 when they started having drop boxes and ballot harvesting. So anybody could throw anything in these, in these mailbox structures and they, they’d count them. And so all of a sudden some people won that were Democrats and nobody even knew who they were. So in the House, right. So now where they were. You know what I mean? Bad. I know, know it is so. Well, yeah. In 2024, what happened these Guys tell me they’re counting. So I, you know, I report on at that time, there’s three of the six house.

Four out of the six house, I think four, maybe that were red at that time. This is four days after the election. Well, they had a bomb threat that Friday. The. Eventually, five out of the six went blue and one of them didn’t flip until like three, two, three weeks after the election by 100 or so, 200 votes. So lots of stuff going on. The numbers didn’t add up. I wrote about that. These numbers, there’s like, they got 1.8 million people on their voter rolls, but they sent out 2.1 million ballots. Well, how does that make sense? You know, how do you.

So clearly, 300,000 people got two ballots. And so this is the kind of stuff that’s happening. They had an excuse for everything. And then I offered personally to do an audit for this county, said, you know, an email broadcast, it shared, hey, we’re happy to do an audit. They came back and said, And I said, we’ll just keep it real simple. We’ll look at your voter rolls, your machines and, and your chain of custody. What’s going on there? They came back, said, well, you can’t look at the machines. If you touch them, we’ll have to buy new ones.

So we can’t let you look at them, which is just garbage. It’s just as such as an auditor. This never happened to me. 3, 402, 300 audits around it. You look at our financials, because if you look at them, we’re going to have to throw them away. I mean, that’s. Yeah, we’re gonna have to throw them all away. That’s right. And so I’m like, oh, it’s. It’s beyond dumb. And, and then with the voter rolls, well, there’s certain fields we just can’t let you look at there. It’s private information. Private. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. You know, so anyways, basically they said, and I’m sure you’re discouraged about this, but the way it is, you know, I’m sorry, I’m discouraged.

But you know what? You know what? Here’s, here’s the thing. I already had the data. I met some guys out there that have been collecting the data legally, and we did a study on the voter rolls. So I’m sitting here telling people, I’m not upset at all. I’m kind of happy I got the data already. He says, no, but that’s fine. We’re going to do it anyways. We’re going to check these voter rolls. So we did a statistical study. Like we would have done an audit. The way you do things, if it’s a large population, you got limited resources, you can’t look at everything you do, random samples and things like that.

That’s what we did. And we come up with like 21% of the people who voted, not just in the voter rolls, but of the 1.4 million people that voted in Orange county in 2024 were either non citizens, invalid, or we, we call them phantom voters. We don’t even know what they are, who they are, you know. Yeah, 21. And so they’re going to certify an election with one out of five voters being garbage. And, and it’s shocking. And we wrote that. Isn’t that disheartening, though, when you bring this up and you fight against and you always lose, and that’s where the judges come in.

Right. Well, that’s it. I think, I think that strategy cannot be done because they’re using this. You don’t have standing, which was garbage, which is a lie. I remember talking to somebody from Italy who just laughed at that, says the, you know, the Texas case, remember that Trump, they’re saying, didn’t have standing. What lunacy. Yeah, that’s what I mean. They didn’t have standing. They could just make up anything. And so if you have judges in place that are. See, this is where it comes down to when you’re fighting a war. One side has no rules whatsoever and the other side tries to be ethical, you’re immediately at a disadvantage because there’s not nothing these people won’t do.

Whereas the, this, you know, the. In people with integrity, we can’t not have integrity. And so that’s. Right, but not that you want to change that, but the same standpoint, you’re at a disadvantage, maybe just short term. And then actually they accuse you of doing things that you don’t even do or you know, or that are terribly unethical that you never would think about doing. And so it’s a really, It’s a really dynamic situation. I think the answer, though, is still the truth. We need to continue to get the truth out, share it. And that’s why they hate us, because we’re sharing the truth.

And, and so with Orange county, we have got. This is a big deal. We have got to fix our election, because this is why instead of having a swing of 10, 10 House seats just from Orange county being red instead of, you know, 5 blue, it’d be a 10 vote swing it would be the House would be easy. And this I believe the same with the Senate. These races that were flipped after the election. I don’t believe it. I don’t believe any of it. There’s a lot of things happening because none of this stuff is well controlled.

So and so you’ve got some of the Republicans that are in there are controlled because I mean it was fixed. Elections are causing that as well. Well, that’s it. Well, that’s it. Yeah. And some of these guys, they, that’s why they don’t want any because they know, they know. And, and so, you know, I guess. Well, look at this guy right now, Thom Tillis. He’s trying to say that he’s not going to vote for Ed Martin because of January 6th. And wait a minute, you know, you’re from North Carolina. He’s got, what is going on there.

He’s a senator from North Carolina. He doesn’t want to vote. And what we’re finding out is that if, if Ed Martin doesn’t get approved here maybe within the next few days, few weeks, then Judge Boasberg, Obama’s Obama judge, who’s been a nightmare here lately doing any and has been for a long time now we’re learning back in, in, in 2016, he was, he was in on stuff and that and made some real questionable rulings. He was the, he was the judge overseeing the Kleinsmith case, the only case from Russia collusion went to court and gave him a slap on the hand and he got his license back in a couple days.

You know, Boasberg gets to choose who’s going to be the next DA in D.C. if Ed Martin doesn’t get approved. And we’ve got this Tillis guy saying I’m not going to do it. Same with Susan Collins and, and Mitch McConnell and these people. This could have been over overcome if these four or eight, whatever the number is, Senate races were, were done in a free and fair environment. I believe free and fair will show, I think like you believe with me at least an 8020 Trump over, you know, Trump over Kamala. They would, we wouldn’t be dealing with this stuff now we’ve got people like Tom Tillis dictating the future of the doj because whoever runs that D A and D C runs basically the DOJ there as well.

So this is basically free and fair at every level it needs to happen because you can’t, no matter where you fit, if you care about integrity and decency, no matter what, wherever you are, on the political spectrum, you have to, that has to be the basis. Otherwise you can’t solve any problems. You know, and Americans are free and fair. Americans are good people. We’re great people. A lot of integrity. A lot of integrity. I think this force, like you said, it kind of comes back to swings all the way back. The beginning of our discussion. Who’s doing this? Who is it? It’s, to me, it’s not Americans.

I, and I look at some of this stuff and I think this never happened in my childhood. If it did, I certainly didn’t know about it. Jim and I grew up in Fort Dodge, Iowa. You know, beautiful community, you know, was some. But it wasn’t like this. I mean, this is wild. This is color revolution, war. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, it is. And so again, Victoria Newland, that’s what’s going on here. We’ve got some real monsters if we can’t, you know, here’s the thing about Orange county in California. The thing is, if we prove, which we have, that the election there was garbage, well then really the whole state of California is garbage.

And then what’s the real answer? But that is the, the. We need courageous men and women that are willing to stand up and say, hey, this is a lie. You know, the, the king’s clothes, he, he has no clothes on. You know, there’s an elephant in the living room. That’s what we need more of. And that’s why you need the free speech, because the, the, they have so many resources to propagate the, this other lie and myth, the narrative. And so that’s what we’re trying to counteract it. The war really is a psi. A psychological warfare is what we’re dealing with.

Right? Yeah, you’re absolutely right. And you know, we sometimes get, you know, all of us get taken off on something and then you kind of realize later, now there’s something. So for me, as I was watching January 6th, I was, I wasn’t there. I was disappointed. I was kind of. Jim was there and I was, I stayed or you know, at home that day and just followed it and wrote about it. I could tell something was going on. I, there’s something. It started off, it got, you know, got violent. We find out Pence writes this letter, announces this letter while President Trump is talking.

I just, I was coordinated from a top. It wasn’t just on the, it wasn’t just the street level. Yeah. Oh, I’m so glad to hear my third book’s on the COVID up and I cover a lot on January 6, but him coming out with that at that time, after he said two nights before, on January 4th, there’s a lot of evidence here that we need to really look into and blah, blah, blah, blah. And then two days later, he says, after a lot of con, you know, consternation, I’ve decided that, you know, this is the right thing to do.

Let them steal it, basically, is what he’s saying. And I wrote a piece that morning and I said, pence is either going to be, you know, he’s going to be a hero or he’s going to be Brutus. What will it be today in. And he. And later in the day, I wrote, he’s Brutus. And I went back then when you see this then, because I was. I thought Pence was an okay, good Christian man. You go back then and you go all the way back to General Flynn and you find out that that whole episode was General Flynn saying, I don’t think I did anything wrong.

These guys are accusing me of saying something I don’t think I said. I don’t have the video, but I don’t think I said it. And of course, we learned that he didn’t. It was a lie against. Against Pence and Prus, and they were standing up against Pence. And so now we start seeing the total picture. Okay, but they had to. They had to connive with a group of people that are Democrats and Republicans. I mean, this conniving was broad. Yeah. The whole thing, the Russian collusion, all of it. And Pence was involved. And General Flynn actually came back to me, said, spot on, Joe.

Spot on. You’re right. This guy plays this Christianity. Just a couple days ago, he’s out talking again. He gets an award for integrity from some group. And I heard, saw, what’s his name, Geraldo is praising Pence. I’m like, this guy is not to be praised. He, he. What he did to this country is outrageous, you know, and he needed to stand up and be strong. We had every right to push these things back to these states and say, hey, look, do over. Look at these things. Proper answer was do a new election. And that’s what it is.

You. You don’t certify garbage. I’m sorry. Well, and that’s what causes that, along with COVID and so many other things. The disillusionment with the government at large and now not moving and doing anything on these issues. If they don’t start doing some stuff, disillusionment is growing. Kind of like we. Why do we even support you at all if you’re not going, well, that’s it. Well, look at Bill Barr. We’re all, bar’s gonna bring the tab. We’re gonna get. Bring the bar tab. He’s gonna do it. And for a year, we kept saying that, and it’s like something’s happened.

Then all of a sudden, Epstein gets killed, and he says, that was. That wasn’t a murder. And then. And then the election comes and he. And we find out he was covering it all up. But is he was a goal. Is the goal to disillusion us so that they can. That you create disillusion so that you can rebuild something different? Is that the goal? Is that the color Revolution goal? Ah, that’s a good question. You know what? Maybe. But I think most Americans are like, we don’t want anything different. We just want this country the way it should be and it and is and has been for years.

We just want you to be good. Good. Yeah. Be authentic. Be truth. Do things that are right. Yeah. That’s what I want. Exactly. Okay. People need to follow you. You’re great. Where can people follow you? Read your articles. Give us your spiel. Well, I’m still contributing to Gateway Pundit, and I’ve also been doing a podcast myself over the last few years. So I created a separate site, joehoff.com where I can put my podcast and sell my book bucks, so you can follow me there and at Gateway Pundits, so, you know, big supporter at Jim and what they’ve done.

Right. It’s been amazing. Yeah. Are you guys identical? Yeah. How weird is it to grow up as an identical twin? I mean, I. You don’t know any different. And I, you know, all the people. I don’t know, I don’t know what that would be like. And you don’t know what it wouldn’t be like, really. No. That’s right. I could tell you a couple stories. One is Jim got really sick about 10, 15, 15 years ago, ended up having to go into some major heart surgery. I’m overseas in Hong Kong, and my daughter’s telling. Filling me on what’s going on.

She’s with him. And I decide, well, we’ve got a cousin, he’s a doctor, and I need to reach out to him. He was in the St. Louis area, and I don’t hardly talk to this guy. It’s not like I write him every day. Nice guy, great guy. But it’s not like we’re really close. But I thought I’d better reach out to him. So I’M on a ferry going into work in Hong Kong, which I would do daily, and from one island to another. And I’m on that. And I’m texting an email to my cousin, hey, Dan, can you get involved in this? Just take a look.

Blah, blah. At the same time, my phone goes ding. And it’s Jim. And he says, joe, can you reach out to cousin dan? Same time, 10,000 miles. Was there a lot of things that happen like that with you two as twins? Because I hear that a lot from twins. There were more. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I think that’s the. Yeah, I think we could look at each other and see what’s going on. Another story was Jim had the surgery. I’m on an elevator. I flew back from Hong Kong to be there, you know, during this period for him.

And about less than a week after his surgery, I’m in an elevator going up or down, and this nurse walks on and she says to me, man, you are doing so good. She thought I was Jim. Yeah. Because. So we look alike, sort of. This is my. That’s kind of cool, too. It’s. I, you know, can you. At least. He’s doing good work. If you were the twin and your brother’s kind of screwing off, you’d be like, yeah, man, stop. But he’s doing good work, so that’s good. Well, okay. Well, thank you so much for joining.

It was really a pleasure to talk to you. Me too. Thank you. It’s an honor. Appreciate it. Sa.
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