MK Ultra Hearings Suddenly Delayed

➡ The article discusses a planned MK Ultra hearing that was postponed due to witnesses’ fear for their lives. The author interviews Kathy O’Brien, a well-known MK Ultra survivor, whose records are sealed for national security reasons. They discuss the ongoing suppression of information and the potential continuation of MK Ultra today. The author argues that the country’s downfall is due to the protection of criminal activities by powerful individuals and institutions, and emphasizes the need to expose and address these issues.
➡ The speaker discusses the MK ULTRA program, a Cold War era mind control project, and its continued existence. They express frustration over their testimony being dismissed due to national security, despite the release of MK ULTRA files. They also discuss the manipulation of information and the suppression of dissenting voices, comparing it to China’s control over its citizens. Lastly, they mention the influence of artificial intelligence and media narratives, particularly around President Trump, on public opinion and free thought.
➡ The text discusses the importance of critical thinking and questioning media narratives, highlighting the manipulation of public opinion through media. It also touches on issues like child sex trafficking, the influence of powerful figures, and the need for individuals to take responsibility for their own lives. The author encourages people to question everything, not blindly follow anyone, and to take back their power from those who seek to manipulate them.
➡ The speaker believes that there are dark forces trying to suppress the strength of the human spirit and control people through fear and negativity. They argue that these forces can’t touch the high vibration of the human spirit, which is why they use mind control and trauma to manipulate people. However, the speaker emphasizes that we can overcome these forces by reconnecting with our inner selves, nature, and the divine. They also discuss the idea of dark entities from other dimensions, suggesting that we share the planet with a negative energy force that is vastly different from us.
➡ The speaker discusses the power of maintaining a high spiritual vibration to resist negative influences, suggesting that evil entities can’t harm those who stay aligned with love and strength. They also touch on the issue of human trafficking and child abuse, arguing that these problems are worse than ever and are being ignored or downplayed. The speaker emphasizes the importance of truth and transparency, and criticizes the secrecy of global leaders and organizations. They call for more education on mind control and the effects of trauma, suggesting that understanding these could help combat abuse and manipulation.
➡ The speaker emphasizes the need for severe punishments for child abusers and traffickers, stating it’s crucial for humanity’s evolution. They believe that love for children should unite everyone, transcending political affiliations. They also promote their website, which offers healing resources and their book. The speaker concludes by encouraging people to reclaim their lives, connect with nature, and resist negative forces.

There are some who are like, soulless and they’re different. When they go back to source, it’s going to be something very different than what humanity goes back to. And I’ve encountered people like that. They were not reptiles. They were not lizards. They’re. That’s so 3D there. It’s more than that. It’s something. It’s something different. And it’s something so vile and evil. And they can use Satanism as a trauma base for their mind control. Rather than actually worshiping Satan, they’re worshiping the power that that trauma gives them. Welcome to business Game changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have the great Kathy o’ Brien rejoining the program.

I wanted to have her on because the Congress representative, Luna, were going to do an MK Ultra hearing. It was supposed to be set for tomorrow, but they just. Luna just announced that it was delayed because two of the three witnesses. They had three witnesses ready to testify. Two of them were scared to appear in front of Congress. They’re fearing for their lives and they didn’t want to come forward. So right now there isn’t an another date that is set. So we don’t know what’s happening at this point. But I wanted Kathy O’ Brien to come on.

She’s the most famous MK ultra survivor that’s out there. She has testimony in 1994 that was suppressed for national security reasons. And she can’t. They can’t get her records, people who tried to get her records. It’s all closed for national security security reasons. If you go to AI and you ask AI about who she is and what she’s about, they’ll say that she’s a conspiracy theorist and her information is unproven and they don’t have enough facts to validate anything that she said. It goes on and on about how she is. Her testimony isn’t trustworthy, yet it’s locked behind national security and her files and all the information is locked.

And so I asked her about that. What do you think about this? What do you think about what the AIs are saying? Why is it saying it? She also wants to testify in this hearing and, and we talk about why potentially she’s not being allowed to, and whether MK ULTRA is still going on today and how is it manifesting and how can you see it today? These are real discussions and they’re being suppressed. And my thinking is, if this is disinformation, then why are the files suppressed? Why won’t you let people see this information? And they did release a lot of MK Ultra files that were just released in 2025.

People need to go look through those files and you’ll see that a lot of what she said, who has been validated in those files. You know, the problem is, is that it implicates so many high level people are powerful people. And anytime you go after powerful people in powerful institutions, you will be suppressed. And they do not want that information out there. But the real threat to national security is not cleaning up the issues that we have. Our country is collapsing on itself because we have spent decades hiding criminal activity and protecting criminal activ activity done by powerful people.

And over time the rot becomes so strong that the foundation can’t hold the criminal activity anymore. And that’s what we’re seeing going on, that it, it’s collapsing on itself and we have a duty to save this country for future generations is to clean out that rot, to confront criminal activity. Whatever it is, whatever the truth is. Let’s look at the facts and the data, let’s see, see what we can prove. I mean the Epstein files, those are such good indication of how we. There is so much facts and data, so much proof there. They can’t, they can’t indict anybody.

They can’t, they can’t indict these powerful people. Even though they were sleeping with girls as young as 14 years old or even younger, they can’t indict these guys. What is going on there? Right? And they claim it’s just two high level people and that’s it. I mean, come on, there’s much more to these stories and it has to do with protecting criminal networks. And until we get this out into the daylight and we start to clean this up, our country is going to keep falling and collapsing on itself. And that’s what we’re seeing everywhere. And that’s why the propaganda has gone on superdrive, because they know it’s collapsing and they need to make it look like there’s more people supporting it than who really are.

And we’re going to talk about that in this interview. I think you’re going to love this conversation with Kathy o’. Brien. She is so uplifting, she’s so amazing. And I tell, I say this at the end, maybe in the middle, maybe not quite the end, where I was at a conference with her and there was a group of women who were young women who were trafficked and they came just to see her, they want to talk to her. And she noticed them, she beelined right over to them to help them and she focused her love and attention on them.

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I’m so glad to see you. And wow, I’m really looking forward to our discussion as always. There’s so much going on right now. And Representative Luna had, and this is why I said we gotta get to do a show. She was going to do a hearing on MK Ultra and it was going to be tomorrow and I wanted to interview you before it so we can analyze what was going on. But she just announced that the, the hearing is delayed without a date set because two of the witnesses are too scared to appear. And I, I think that makes sense.

But I wonder what’s really going on. And there are some questions about you not being asked and, and I want to explore some of that because I think there’s some real politics going on on why you were not asked. And I also, there’s politics on framing the MK ULTRA program as just this Cold War era program that doesn’t exist anymore. Right. So there’s all these things floating out there. First of all, what do you think about the hearing being moved back and what’s really behind it? I, I hope they’re, they’re getting ready to have some significant testimony from someone like me.

You know, I’ve been speaking out for over 35 years. MK Ultra mind control and healing from it was used on a White House pentagon level. My 1995 testimony for Congress had so much overwhelming evidence that national security was invoked on it. So national security is still invoked on my case. If someone, you know, tries to get records on my White House Pentagon level victimization, those records are denied for reasons of national security. And yet I can’t understand that, Sarah, because the. A year, a little over a year ago now, the MK ULTRA files were released, they were declassified and released thousands of pages proving what so many of us survivors have been saying all this time.

And it details the places, the names, and validates everything right there. So, you know, why is my case still under national security? I don’t know. But I would love to have an opportunity to testify again, get national security out of the way. Because as long as these perpetrators keep operating in secrecy, they’re going to keep getting away with it. We need to bring all this to light. Well, I think national security and people are starting to become aware of this more and more is national security is evoked to protect high level criminals instead of it being that actually is a security risk for our country.

Yes, it is. Over time now I can see on a specific case by case basis where you keep it quiet, you quietly prosecute, and then you share with the public what happened so it can’t happen again because it can create this, this unmanageable situation. But to do it over a prolonged period of time, all it does is it allows high level criminals to be criminals. Absolutely. I’ve always said it’s a national security that’s threatening the security of our nation and our children. Above all by allowing it to cover up these deep state crimes against humanity that have been going on my whole life.

We definitely need to get through that. And when you look up my name online, of course Wikipedia pops right up with that. I’m a conspiracy theorist and I think it’s very interesting. National security is invoked on a conspiracy theorist. You know, I mean, they contradict themselves, expose themselves all over the place. And yet so often people are not thinking to connect the dots and to put those kind of pieces together to realize how they’re being manipulated, how information is being manipulated, and why MK ULTRA continues to go on. To date, it has definitely not gone away.

The MKUltra files prove that. You know, it’s, it’s more prevalent than ever. Everyone got a taste of MK Ultra Mind Control 2020 when mind control mast is a virus was unleashed on the global population. The exact same formula for mind control was used on humanity as a whole. And understanding those components is crucially and is why censorship is reigning so supreme. Because knowledge is our defense against mind control. And that knowledge really needs to come to light so we can effectively Protect our children and our future. You know, I was listening to npr. I like to listen to different media platforms because I’d like to see where they’re coming from.

And one of the things they are talking about is how China is. They always act like it’s elsewhere, but not here. And they do it in a way that is very realistic. So it protects we’re innocent, but these guys are the bad guys kind of thing. But they were talking about, it was really a good reporting on how China suppresses anything that could mobilize their people against the government or any kind of powerful structures. They do not want any questioning of the narrative. We’re doing the exact same thing here. Exactly this exact same thing. They don’t want people mobilized against anything that’s a powerful institution that could take away their power and their money.

And that’s what this particular situation is. It really can expose high level people. When I, I want you to answer this. When I went to Grok, I want to know why would, and I know this is infuriating, I get this too. But why would Kathy o’ Brien not be asked to the Senate here or the congressional hearings on MK Ultra? And, and its response was that because Kathy o’ Brien’s is extreme claims that can’t be proven and that it’s nothing. That what she said. This is what Grok said. Okay. And I want you to informally, because the thousands of people listening this will go into AIs and ask, well, what you know, ask those questions.

So I want you to tell them directly why it’s BS and counter this propaganda that what you are saying in your book and what you were saying is not. There’s no proven substance to what you’re saying. And it’s extreme. It’s extreme. And so what will happen to the hearings is it will be set up as this conspiracy theory and it’ll discredit the hearings. That’s what they’re saying. That’s what Karak is saying. So I want you to directly combat that. Again, you know, anybody who looks into my records is going to be met with national security. And if there’s no evidence against or credibility to my testimony, why is national security invoked on it when so much other information has come to light? And also in Transformation of America, which is my 1995 testimony for Congress, I expose artificial intelligence.

And the fact that that’s part of what we would refer to as the deep state globalist agenda to align humanity with artificial intelligence, which is flat linear thinking. Our wisdom out. Thanks criminal minds and Artificial intelligence every time. That’s why our humanity is under attack. That’s why this mind control agenda on the global population is a spiritual warfare. Because without soul expression, we don’t have that depth, that wisdom, that height, the ability to question and think beyond. You know. So ultimately they’re wanting to align us with artificial intelligence. And I have no fear of artificial intelligence because of the spiritual aspect.

But at the same time, that has been the plan. In 1984 at Bohemian Grove, George Bush Sr. Was talking about artificial intelligence already being ahead of us and how we were going to have to align with it, because, I mean, that was all the way back then. What do we have now? How far has it advanced? And why in the world would artificial intelligence support me in any way when I do have wisdom and I have soul expression and strength of the human spirit and everything that artificial intelligence cannot relate to on that level and being a threat to its authority, you know, I, I just, I can’t imagine why that would be supportive any more than Wikipedia, which is AI driven.

You know, I think it’s, it’s large language models that are pulling in information that is from authoritative sources, and they’re all saying the same thing, and then they’re blocking out information sources like myself or yourself or other people because we’re not authoritative. And so these large language models pull that information and not. It’s biased in structure because it’s only pulling the information that the powerful people deem scheme is worthwhile. And so these artificial intelligence large language models are, are set. At no time in history have we ever been this where the power structure has the bias built into this degree and this much power.

I have never in my life seen a psyop as extensive as the Trump derangement syndrome. And whether you like Trump or don’t like Trump or whatever, the fact is the media has hammered people into obliv on with the Trump derangement syndrome. So by a repetitive media narrative and a constant subliminal assault for years, that repetition affects the subconscious mind of even the closest followers. Ultimately, to me, it’s up to humanity. It’s up to us. President Trump told us he was given power back to the people, meaning we, it’s up to us to make the difference. It’s up to us to be the change we want to see in the world and stop waiting on government to fix it for us, because government’s doing it to us.

And yet this Trump derangement syndrome has set the stage for finger pointing at Trump. Every time we get close to Truth like the Epstein files and knowing who those perpetrators are. Every time then it points a finger over at Trump and everybody looks over there and you know, because they have been so subliminally conditioned to do that. So this erosion of free thought and critical thinking and connecting dots to realize all the executive orders that he signed exposing the funding mechanism of this globalist agenda, exposing child sex trafficking, the fact that he was exposing child sex trafficking in the mid-80s indicates that’s not something he’s going to be participating in when he’s already exposing it all the way back then and exposing MK Ultra and the State Department using MK Ultra mind control slaves.

So it’s been, you know, we’ve got to start connecting dots and going back with the history in order to really understand and think things through so we don’t fall prey to the media manipulating people to look one way or the other. If that has been going on for so long now that Hillary Clinton is still not locked up after all the evidence against her. And I really think that’s why these hearings have been postponed, because people fear the Clintons. The, the Clinton hit list has been circulating since the early 90s. The mass number of people around them that died, anyone who’s exposing them.

It has been quite a journey for me surviving these years and walk in a fine legal line in order to do it. Having national security invoked on my testimony is both helpful in that regard, but absolutely disgusting when you consider how many children have been trafficked and harvested since 1995 when that testimony was censored. You know, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s horrific. But the media manipulation of people and telling them what to think rather than people remembering how to think and connecting dots anymore is affecting us all. It’s affecting justice. The media took over our justice system very heavily with the Michael Jackson trial and the O.J.

simpson trial. That was a massive takeover of our, of our justice system in that they form the public, public opinion to make the judgment. And it’s, it’s been extensive manipulation and again, knowledge is our defense against it. We’ve got to wise up and learn how to think again in order to get past this media that has been honed to manipulating the minds of the masses. Look at the extent, Sarah, of mind control masters virus 2020. How many times did people hear mask up social distance, get the injection. It’s a perfect example of how that media machine manipulates us when we’re all, you know, quaking in fear from those ticker tape numbers they were showing.

US of the mass deaths of, you know, it just, it was all such a manipulation. We understand that. We’ll just shut it off and, and go think free. Pick up a pen and paper and activate the logic critical analysis part of our brain and logically process the information we need to evolve with knowledge. That’s our defense against mind control going forward. And this is time. This is an opportunity right here, right now for us to do it. Just a quick break from the program. I need to share with you an urgent manner about scam gold IRAs and the important need to make sure that you’re working with a trusted company in the precious metals space.

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And everybody else thinks like this because they want to tap into our herd mentality. Yes, right. That’s a very powerful thing. People want to belong to a group so they. Part of mind control is making you feel like you’re all alone if you. And you’re so out there and you’re weird and you’re strange because you think differently. We think this and these are the normal people. You are a weirdo all by yourself. You’re the scarlet letter thinking differently when it’s really not what’s happening. Right. We pull back that wizard’s curtain and we see just a handful of puppet masters pulling levers to make Themselves look bigger, like there’s more of them than there are, when in fact we are by far the majority.

The media didn’t tell anyone that the people were waking up all the way back through the 90s and by 2016, so many of us were awake and aware that we overrode the rigged electronic algorithm in the voting machine to elect a president that was not Hillary Clinton and her New World Order. There were that many people awake. The media, of course, didn’t say that. There was no announcement of it. And even the dark deep state, even these, these globalists did not expect people were awake because they weren’t told either. They had no way of knowing the measure of it was the overriding of the rigged electronic algorithm in the voting machine.

So if that many people were awake 2016, imagine how many are awake now. We hear about the Great awakening. We see people getting out in their communities and making a difference on local levels. You know, it’s, it’s exc. Exciting to see what’s happening in reality, walk away from the, the, their media voice that’s manipulating us all and go experience the reality, get out in communities. Well, what do you think that a lot of people believe that Trump made some deals this time around to get back into office and that part of those deals has to do with the Israeli war and some of the, you know, the Epstein files not, not going further.

I mean, there’s some questions, right, about some of the things that are happening in the administration that are not. Doesn’t seem aligned with what we would expect. The surveillance state is going on in hyperdrive quicker than ever before. So while there is combating censorship, there is that. I, I appreciate that that is happening and that is real, but the, the, the surveillance state is going hardcore forward. So what do you think about that? You know, it’s a mixed question, isn’t it? Well, it’s, it. The fact that it’s a question is what’s important. And we all need to question everything.

I absolutely love what President Trump did. Waking people up and exposing the swamp, exposing the drug and human trafficking across the border and the child sex trafficking. I’m forever grateful for that. But do I blindly follow everything? No way. I’m going to think everything through because we all need to do that. If, if the people don’t take responsibility for their own lives, if they don’t break away from blindly following government, then it’s all for not because what, governments are just going to be replaced with more of the same? We need to take our power back and it was understood on the highest levels of intelligence that Mark Phillips was working on and talking about and that I saw so much activity towards and planning towards in the discussions on how it cannot this new world or this globalist agenda that cannot be unraveled.

The whole child sex trafficking and blackmail ops cannot be unraveled until we the people wake up. Mind control is ultimately a spiritual warfare and we need to have a mental and spiritual evolution in order to get through this curve. That means it’s up to each and every individual. And the best way to wake up is to start questioning everything and not blindly following anyone. I encourage everyone, you know, research everything that I’ve said because the more, you know, the more you see that it’s absolutely inexcusable that we allow for this handful of dark negative energy force perpetrators to manipulate our brilliant minds and lives anymore.

They are not like us us and they do not like us. And this is our time to wake up and realize that we share this planet with that dark negative force and it does not need to dominate us. When we remember that, that we have all the power and they only have as much power as we give them or let them steal. That’s right. We take our power back. You know, I asked rock, the AIs actually helped me a little bit. I asked Rock, am I being suppressed because. Because I so many other channels are questioning things, doing things, yeah, but I do it with, not in an entertainment, conspiracy way.

I look like I’m legit, right? And so I, I asked it, I said, okay, am I being suppressed by people because it said that I was outside the Overton window? Like this is outside the Overton window. And so am I being suppressed because people who are ignorant to what’s going on are suppressing it, thinking it’s misinformation, or are those who know this is going on and don’t want the general public to hear it from somebod who comes across as authentic and trustworthy. And Grok came back and said it’s the second they know what’s going on. And they’re suppressing you because they do not want authoritative voices like yours who have a really good background bringing this kind of information to the forefront.

What do you think about that? And it goes to what you’re doing too. But keep, tell me what you think you are so brilliant in the way you present and what you do and the difference that you make and that brilliant shines from within you. You’re so soulful and that that strength of human spirit, that soulfulness is what they fear the most. I have been very surprised to find that my newest book aligned with the Divine is being suppressed as hard as my 1995 testimony for Congress Transformation of America. And it’s, it’s. I never expected that.

But then again it’s like More. Well of course because heaven been deep in the swamp among these perpetrators and feeling that low vibration, dark negative energy force that they are, they feed off a negativity, they feed off of fear, they feed off of trauma and division and hatred. Anything that’s low vibration, that’s their energy, that’s what they, that’s what they need. Their greatest fear is the strength of the human spirit. Because it’s such a high vibration, they can’t reach it, they can’t touch it because that would be like darkness creeping in on light. It doesn’t work that way.

Our light is exposing what’s going on in their darkness. So they fear the strength of the human spirit. And the only thing they can do is use mind control, trauma based mind control to shut down neuron pathways in our brain, get our brains to freeze in fright while they manipulate the subconscious into a lower vibration frequency that they can control and manipulate. So we have been blessed with the victory within us all when we remember who we are and why we’re here. When we reclaim our free thought, free will, soul expression. With that soul expression we get that discernment of truth, compassion for each other, understanding the wisdom to outthink their criminal minds, the ability to go within, align with that divine within in gather the strength of the human spirit and infinite power of love and claim our victory.

Because they have no business meddling with us. They are low vibration and trying to convince us that we are low vibration. So you know, it’s so important to reground and remember who we are. Get out in nature, feel the sun on your skin, the wind in your hair, the earth under your feet. You know, reground and all that reground with animals, animals which is so much of what align with the Divine is about is re grounding in within our, our own selves to remember all that because that’s our victory. We have, we, we always hear, we know the end of the story.

God wins. God won. He won with the very divine creation of all of us and how we’re made. With that victory within us, all we got to do is remember it. All we got to do is go within. So I’m so excited to be sharing that information and I, I, I love doing interviews with, with, with you Sarah because You are so soulfully wise and with that strength of spirit that it, it, it allows truth to shine. No matter how dark the truth is, it allows it to shine where people can digest it and, and utilize it.

And it makes it instead of overwhelming, it makes it empowering, you know, and so it’s no wonder you get censored, you know, it’s there. Okay, so Luna came out and said, and I think it’s tied to all this, the UFO disclosure. They came out and said as, as entities from other dimensions is what they’re trying to say. And you know, I’ve been learning over the years, you know, because I grew up in a very Christian environment. Although I’ve never really got into organized religion. I just don’t, I just, you know, I’m struggling with that and. But my mom was a eucharistic minister.

My father in law is a deacon in the Catholic church or he was neither. We don’t have either of them anymore. But I grew up in those environments, right. And I never really. But with, with everything I’m learning about energy and, and talking to people over the years, it’s like this very. There very much is this idea of, or truth that there’s probably a dark entities that exist from other dimensions and these dark energies, just like the Christian Bible says. And we’ve been warned by Jesus and all these people that it is that these guys are still around and they’re, they’re taking control of human beings and implementing this agenda on us.

That’s what the information seems to be coming, coming out now. The. It’s just so crazy. I know I wouldn’t believe what I just said. 15 years ago I would have thought it was nutty. But after all of my research and all my talking, I really think this is probably going on. And so I think the disclosure, and I want to hear your point, I think the disclosure is not going to be good right away, but it’s leading towards this understanding. What do you think about that? I hope so, because we need to realize again that we share this planet with a dark negative energy force.

It’s not. They’re not like us and do not like us. It doesn’t matter if we call them aliens or demons or whatever. The fact is they are vastly different. And it’s not like we can pray for their souls and have them learn something because there are some who are like soulless and they’re different when they go back to source. It’s going to be something very different than what humanity goes back to. And I’VE encountered people like that. They were not reptiles, they were not lizards. They’re. That’s so 3D there. It’s more than that. It’s something, it’s something different and it’s something so vile and evil.

And they can use Satanism as a trauma base for their mind control. Rather than actually worshiping Satan, they’re worshiping the power that that trauma gives them. A quick break to share with you this wonderful product called Masterpiece. It is proven to taking out graphene oxide, aluminums, heavy metals, metals, microplastics. They also are looking at these Mac addresses and there’s more and more research and there’s studies coming out. There’s four documentaries that are being made on their studies about how they’re able to disable Mac addresses that are somehow put into people. This is amazing stuff. I highly recommend I buy a whole box of it.

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Yes. Traumatizes their host and gives them more control over their host. Yes. And when, when we realize that it’s like I was when I was doing my deprogramming and writing out my memory and how Lt. Col. Michael Aquino had programmed me and everything and how he would say, you know about that. How to. How to appear for the hands on mind control demonstrations. How to appear possessed. And it’s like, why wouldn’t I just be possessed? Why, why is this being programmed in? So, you know, I was writing out the program realizing full well that no matter what torture I experienced, no matter what near death experience I had, my spirit was in a safe, loving space.

No matter what satanic ritual I was used in and how my blood was used as the precursor for adrenochrome back in the 70s, all that my spirit was always in a safe, loving space. And it was like the full realization that I had been carried through my whole victimization. That my spirit, who I. What happens to us in life isn’t who we are. Who we are is still within us. Divinely protected, waiting to be freed, waiting to be freed from that fear so that we can live the love we are, live life the way that it’s intended to be lived.

And that is like the most powerful testimony I think that could ever be and hope for these children that have been trafficked and ritually abused, they too can heal because they have been carried through. They’re not, they’re not possessed by something that we can’t control. They are able to reclaim their free thought, free will, soul expression, to realize the strength of the human spirit. Their divine connection with God has carried them through all along. So it, when we, when we get to that point, it’s going to dispel the whole satanic illusion of power. Because that illusion of power is just like what this deep state globalist agenda is using is an illusion of power.

They have no power. We have it all by design, by divine design. What a celebration. What a victory. People wonder why I smile. That’s why. Well, you’re just, you’re just pure love. I remember we were at, we were at the conference together and they, there was some young women who were trafficked and they’re sitting at a table and they came just to see you and you be lying to them. You ignored everybody else and, and you care, you’re not ignored. But I mean that was, your focus, was to talk to them because they needed you. And it was incredible watching you.

I just sat there and watched you do that and I was like that, you know, this person’s on a mission of caring and giving back, but giving back to those who really need you, you. And it was, it was just incredible watching you do that. But I, I, I do wanna, I wanted to put that in there so people listen to just see how, how great you are as a person. But I, I want to talk a little bit more about this demonic thing. Like are, are these other entities, are we dealing with other entities that are taking over a human? Or do you think that these human, they were born, they just aren’t human? I mean, I don’t.

What are we dealing with here? They can’t, they can’t possess the spirit because it’s too high vibration. They use mind control, trauma, and that’s very effective in stopping people from keeping their vibration high. So when we realize that all we need is to stay aligned with that infinite source of, of love and strength of the human spirit, we’re impenetrable. We keep our vibration high, they can’t hurt us. Yeah, that’s why I have no fear. People Say, aren’t you, aren’t you scared of the Clintons? And it’s like, well, haven’t met Hillary and knowing what she is, I just keep my vibration high.

And it’s not only that, because there’s, there’s a lot involved in strategic legal, tightrope walking in order to keep speaking out in that process. There’s ways. That’s right. Able to do it. That’s. But I have no fear because I, I know where their limits are. And if everybody could just see that and realize that we would be beyond the fear, beyond this, this transitional time that we’re in, beyond this kaleidoscope of change which, you know, know and, and, and be able to see clarity of vision with truth and realize our victory. That. And it’s time. What an amazing time to be alive while humanity is moving into their victory.

We have been so blessed with resiliency, a body, mind and spirit. And it’s time. It, it’s past time. I’m like, we’re done. We’re done. This is enough. But I, I do want to answer this question. Are they, they, Are they humans that are possessed by a dark spirit or are they not humans? Do you know what I mean? Not humans. I would say not humans as human. Wow. Okay. Like, if they go within to their source and align, it’s something vastly different than what humanity finds when they go within. It’s, they’re, they’re, they’re different. Like, like, like people would say, well, you, you got to love your abusers.

And to me, it made no sense because. Because not only do I not condone the abuse, but. But I, I’m going to live the love I am. I love humanity. I just live love. And that is my whole motivating driver. And to love them, to beam that at them is they can’t receive it. They have no capacity for receiving anything that high vibration, and they would just use you anyways. It’s like they would just. You have to be careful with that because. Yes. You’re sending them. Yeah. Don’t give them my focus. Not. I’m not going to even focus that energy that way because not only can they not receive it, I’m not going to waste my, my energy.

How did they gain power in the first place? How did we as humans allow something so dark to take over the power structure of this Earth? Earth Secrecy. That’s a problem. We go right back to that National Security act and everything else. The secrecy has been a problem all along. That’s why we have secret societies and why these global leaders meet in secret and we’re not allowed to be there. And you know, and, and they, they decide our fate and everything else. That way we, we know truth makes us free. And that is one of the most powerful things we’ve got to understand.

And they, they’re doing everything they can to suppress it. That’s why you’re censored. You know, it’s, it’s, it’s how they’re, they’re getting away with it by suppressing the truth, the light, the reality, and keeping a constant flow of trauma out there instead to hide behind. So that’s been going on for forever. It’s, it’s one of the narratives that I’m hearing is that the human trafficking is, isn’t as bad and that that’s over, over, done. And the pedophilia is not as bad. But I, I talk to people on the ground, people actually working with these people and on a day to day basis, and they’re saying, no, it’s worse than ever, and that they’re ignoring the truth on this because those are people actually working with the victims.

What do you. Yeah, so there’s a narrative to try to make people think, just like completely push it under the rug. Follow the money. You know, in my lifetime, it, human trafficking, child sex trafficking has become the most lucrative business in the world and probably in all of history. How did that happen? Why did that happen? What are these blackmail ops? Where are these blackmail videos being kept? Do we need to be checking Vatican blackmail vaults? Do we need to be checking blackmail vaults in other places? What will they actually reveal? All they reveal is that much of humanity has been controlled by, by blackmail operations.

And these are to make them look like there’s more of them than there are, because there really aren’t that many of them. It’s just a small handful of perpetrators at the top. Again, pull back the curtain. They’re just pulling levers, their media voice to make themselves look bigger. So it is, you know, we got the victory by sheer numbers. We do. And I, I would like to say that the people who are working in these big tech firms, these media firms, this is your family, in your life too. So do what you can inside these firms to make sure that freedom, that truth gets out there, that we can have these conversations.

You don’t have to believe what we’re saying, what you’re saying, but fight to allow these conversations to exist. Fight to allow the evidence to come out out to prove it one way or the other. That’s the important thing, if you don’t believe you, then let’s get the evidence out to prove it that you’re not telling the truth. That’s just as important. Right. I know that what’s going to happen is the, the, the search for disproving what you’re saying will bring out a ton of good. Why won’t they do that? Let it, let us. Okay. Disprove what she’s saying.

Let’s go for that. Right. Right. And, and education is such an important part of all this because people have forgotten their own mind br function. The information on mind brain function was buried under national security as soon as the National Security act was formed. In the wake of the project and wake of Project Paperclip when we imported the Nazi and fascist scientists into the US with them came the formula for mind control. And they needed our personal knowledge of our mind brain function, how we respond to trauma. They’re under national security. If that hadn’t been withheld from humanity for generations, they could not sell the idea that pedophilia is a sexual preference.

It’s a mind control agenda. It damages the brain functioning. It shuts down neuron pathways and makes a compliance for life. Unless a person heals. Because again we’ve got the resiliency and the ability to heal. Heal no matter what life puts in front of us. But the fact is we need that education back to understand our own mind brain function. What really happens in the child and the mind of a child that is sexually abused? What happens to their body? Why have adult diapers become such a, a massive selling point now? It’s because so many have been abused.

They have. They have. It has affected their, their, their body function. We can follow so many different trails of this to prove what’s going on with the reality of that. And why are they pushing so hard to tell us it’s a sexual preference? Then what are they really doing? We gotta understand that we need some harsh penalties for, for people who rape children and, and traffic children. We’ve got to stop this process. It has to be zero, zero. We got to be done. Done consequence for actions. Got it? We got to have that back as part of morality and as part of understanding the magnitude of what we’re doing to the evolution of humanity by sexually assaulting our children.

And it’s a, it’s not a left right thing. This is not a democrat. This unifies everyone. Yes. Not involved with it. Yeah. Seriously. It should unify the whole world. World. Yeah. You know, and in the real way, instead of a A global agenda that that’s where world peace is going to come in. When we unite in light of love and love for our children should be uniting us all for certain. Okay, where do they get a copy of your book and follow you? Because you’re a must. A must follow. Oh, thank you. Trance- formation.com My website, T R A N C E, hyphen and formation.com.

that’s where my books are, where events are listed, my podcast, my blog posts. You know, there’s so much information there. Healing information, ptsd, time to heal. The healing methods that I use that we’ve all been blessed with is posted there. It’s not about me, it’s about us all. We have been blessed with that resiliency. We have been blessed with the ability to heal all along. People just need to remember that it’s within us to heal with us, within us to align with the divine and claim our victory. So all of it on my website, trance- formation.com.

you know, I gotta tell you, Kathy, the people that, who have been high level in intelligence operations around the world, who’ve come out and said, I’m not supporting this anymore, they all support you. If that’s not an indication that what you’re saying, saying doesn’t have merit, I don’t know what else is. Yeah, yeah, it’s. It’s time, it’s time for the truth to come out. And it’s been growing. You know, it’s been happening ever since I started speaking out over 35 years ago. But we’ve, we’ve reached such a crescendo now. Now it’s kind of like the. What.

Like what my daughter Kelly said. The great awakening is, is real. But people have a long way to go to catch up. So now it’s time for us to catch up. Take back the, the sanctity and peace of our lives and get out in nature and, and remember who we are and why we’re here. Start living life the way it’s intended to be lived instead of overshadowed by this invasive, dark, negative energy force. Thank you so much for coming on the program. Thank you for being you. Thank you for giving yourself to the world and I really appreciate you.

Thank you so much. Sa.
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