MAHA the Real Deal or Just a Scam? Behind the Scenes in DC w/ Dr. Sherry Tenpenny

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Okay, back to the program. Welcome to business Game changers. I’m Sarah westall. I have Dr. Sherry Tanpani coming to the program. And I recorded this a few days ago before RFK Jr. Fired the entire vaccine Advisory board. And so I wanted to talk a little bit about that. I think that vindicates Sherry and she’s saying that we have to give it some time as far as whether Maha is legit or not. She’s going to talk about that. We also talk about the fact that it’s good for people to be out there pushing back and just, you know, kind of going ballistic.

But at the same time it also shows that there is progress going on. So we’ll see and monitor that situation. But of course they’re getting a ton of pushback saying that firing the whole Vaccine Advisory board is going to harm the entire country and its partisan and things. And he’s making the statement that they are have conflicts of interest. I mean they’re all making money on vaccines and then they’re all saying these are good. So that that’s a huge conflict of interest. So this is a great development of what’s going on. We’ll see as we watch it further.

But this discussion with Sherry Tenpenny, we, we’re going to discuss is Mahalajin or not and what she’s seeing when she’s in D.C. and then we’re going to div into her background and what she’s been covering for decades. She has a new book out which, you know, we talk about it in this interview how the, this book has opened the eyes of people who’ve been in the freedom movement for a long time, the health freedom movement for decades learned a lot from this book. So it’s a triumph as far as getting information out to people. She’s really been on the forefront.

I interviewed her back in 2017 about the prep Act. She was one of those people that laid a foundation for me. When Covid came, I could see through it. I could see that there was a bigger operation here and that’s what she’s helping people and informing people of. So this is a good one and I hope you watch the whole thing and I hope you share it. I’ll have a link below to where you can purchase her book, which is very eye opening. It’s only available on Amazon, but I’ll have a link also to her website where you can see it and hopefully eventually there’ll be links to buy it other places, but it’s up there on Amazon.

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Clean, no fragrance, but effective ingredients. Okay. I’ll have a link below if you’re interested in it or you can go to Silver under shop. Okay. This is my really interesting conversation with Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. Hi Dr. T. Welcome back to the program. Hi Sarah, thank you so much for having me. It’s been a while. It’s good to see you. It has been a while. You know, I think it was in the middle of the COVID nightmare. And you first. I first did an interview with you back in maybe 2017, 2018 time frame. Wow. And it was on the prep act.

And you, you know, you were one of the people that prepped me for when all this stuff in Covid came down. I had enough foundation that I could read through what was happening right when it was happening. And so it. You, you were one of those pillars, but you’ve been fighting the medical establishment and this, the bureaucracy, the corruption for decades now. You’ve been a warrior on the front lines. And the reason why I really wanted to talk to you is because you put out a little video on X and I was really impressed with it.

You’ve been in Washington D.C. following what’s going on with the politics, following what’s going on with Maha. And Maha Make America Healthy Again has gotten so much. Well, it’s gotten good press and a lot of bad press. There’s a lot of political energy against it. And you want to, you put on a message that there are things going on and that people need to understand that things are moving forward and politics aren’t. It’s not as easy as people think. And so I wanted you to share that because it’s very different than what you hear all the time in the independent media.

Well, there’s a lot of different Maha groups and that it becomes a problem in and of itself. You know, who does what and who’s part of what. And, and people are capitalizing on the phrase Maha and making it be a brand. And it’s like sticking a sticky note on everything, anything that’s making America healthy again. People want to start their own splinter groups and all these different things. But the original people that were Maha people were the people that were Bobby Kennedy’s people that helped to get him elected. You know, that they were really the ones that really helped to push him forward.

They were the original ones with Dell Big Trees group. And to really say, you know, what do we, what do we want to do to make America healthy again? A lot of foodies in there, a lot of farmers, a lot of people that have been really fighting food additives, glyphosate, you know, all those things for a really, really long time. And I was kind of the loudest and largest and most long standing voice saying, you know, we’ve also got to attack this Pediatric vaccine schedule. Because if suddenly the entire all of America was dropped into a.

A meadow that was the Garden of Eden and we had pristine everything. Pristine food, water, soil, air, everything was the cleanest thing from the very beginning of how God created the earth. If we were there. But we still gave children 28 doses of vaccines by the time they’re one year of age. How much different is that going to make in children’s health? I don’t think much. And so I’ve been holding the line of the way that I’ve been trying to get people to stop poisoning children for 25 years. And I decided about three months ago I wasn’t going to talk about the pediatric vaccine schedule anymore.

I was going to call it what it was, the systematic pediatric poisoning schedule that they bully parents into poisoning their children on schedule, on time, and get every dose of poison along the way. You have to do it, because if it really wakes people up, it makes them stop and just ask the question which I’ve been begging parents to ask for 25 years. What’s coming through that needle? And is it really necessary? That’s right, yeah. And so, you know, I’ve been, you know, holding the line on that kind of goes along with the book that, you know, my book that I just wrote, you know, zero accountability in a failed system.

And the Maha thing is really, politics are messy. There’s no straight, there’s no linear anything about politics. And a lot of people have been just up in arms and nasty about what’s going on. You know, why doesn’t Bobby Kennedy do this? We, we did all this stuff to get him into that position. We supported you. And now you’re not following through. Now wait a minute. It’s been a hundred, it’s been 100 days. That’s it. 100 days. And I, and I, I see the concern and I also know politics. And you just come in and get to do it.

They don’t just let you do what you want. You have another group. He doesn’t even have his full team together yet. Well, but they’re. The people who are concerned, are concerned that the MRNA vaccines are still being, that are still on the schedule and still recommended, and they’re part of his organization. And that’s what people. Okay, there’s. There’s people who are against every. Absolutely everything, and then there’s people who are like, spot, you know, criticizing. What do you say to the people who are, you know, like the Naomi Wolfs and things? I put an open letter together recently.

I think I Just saw it yesterday or the day before to his group, to Bobby Kennedy, about the MRNA vaccines not being pulled. What do you say to that? I mean, how, how is that moving along in dc? Well, I, you know, I, I’m kind of split on that because on the one hand, they’re correct. I mean, Bobby, with a stroke of a pen, could stop all of it. With a stroke of the pen, he could stop the amendments to the PREP act that have now been extended, but were extended by Bexera before he left office until 2029.

The protection of the emergency youth authorization and protection to the pharmaceutical industry. With a stroke of the pen, he could write, go in there and say, effective today, this is over. You could do the same thing with the, with the MRNA vaccines effective today. We have enough, we have enough data, enough published information to choke a horse. We don’t need any more science, we don’t need any more research. We have proven this is a failed platform. We tried it. Millions of people got injured and killed. It didn’t work. We need to stop doing it with anybody else.

They can do that. And then you are. Think, then think about. He’s up against the most moneyed, most powerful, most evil corporations on this planet. He’s got people like Senator Cassidy and Bernie Sanders and, you know, Elizabeth Warren and then a whole bunch of people over in the House of Representatives that are just evil and not nice people saying vaccines are safe and effective and have saved the world. And you can’t take away our life saving vaccines. And we still got a fairly sizable amount of people in this country who still think vaccines are safe, effective and necessary.

And what do you mean the COVID shot’s gonna go away? What do you mean I’m a pregnant woman and I can’t get COVID vaccine? So what do you, what do you mean that I can’t give that. It is incred. It is incredible for people like you and me and, and people on this board who have been fighting this battle, have been doing the research, have been actually reading for a long time, but there’s a whole bunch of sheep out there that haven’t done any of those things. Well, and the whole. I saw Elizabeth Warren’s post and on X and I just shake my head of what is wrong with this woman.

I mean, I’m sorry there’s. And I’m sorry if you guys like her, but there’s something not right with her mental abilities or, or somebody’s funding her. But she said you’re taking away women and children’s right to Vex or vaccines. It’s like nobody’s taking that right away. They’re just saying you don’t have to take it. And that’s, Isn’t that true? I mean, she’s acting like people are keeping it from people versus allowing them to have a choice. I don’t know if you watch any of the, of Secretary Kennedy’s confirmation hearings, but I thought if I heard Elizabeth Warren say one more thing about life saving vaccines, I was going to throw my shoe at my computer scan screen.

I mean, here’s, you know, all these people who know nothing about vaccines. Absolutely nothing. You know, and here’s Bill Cassidy, who’s a doctor, who’s probably never even read a package insert in his life, who lied. And I caught him in a line, wrote a big substack about it about less, it’s called Lessons to Senators, where he said when, when Kennedy was there, he said, I want to correct the record when, when Secretary Kennedy says there’s been no police placebo controlled studies. Yes, there have been for rotavirus, MMR and Gardasil. And when they compared it to other vaccines.

And so I went through and I found all the references where there were no studies with the rotavirus vaccine. The, the, the test vaccine was the rotavirus vaccine, the placebo was the rotavirus vaccine without the viruses in it. So it’s just incredible. So you’re, you’re giving an incredible example. Why do you think they are choosing to be this, Are they that incompetent in their ability to think it’s all about Sarah, Are they paid off? Of course they are paid off. I mean, Bobby showed that in his confirmation hearing about Bernie being the most highly paid senator.

And he showed how much money Elizabeth Warren and Kenneth Cassidy and all these other people have gotten from the pharmaceutical industry over the years. And you know, there’s what’s something like 6,000 lobbyists for the pharmaceutical industry. There’s four or five for every representative in Congress that’s down there. That’s, that’s, that’s pumping these pharmaceutical drugs, you know, pushing them forward for Medicare reimbursement for vaccines and reimbursement. Think about the CDC is the largest purchaser of vaccines in the world. They also market vaccines, they also distribute vaccines. And they’re part of our government. They’re an agent for the pharmaceutical industry.

And all of the vaccines are the economic driver of the entire health care system. The most important, most valuable piece of property on the planet is a newborn baby that they can vaccinate four times before they’re even born by vaccinating the mother three times at birth. Seven vaccines every two months until they get to be one year of age for 26 doses of poison by the time they’re one year of age that now they have crushed their immune system, destroyed their guts, sometimes destroyed their brains with, with a seizure, seizure disorders, ticks, neurological things, with G disorders, with asthma, allergies, eczema, add, adhd, with insulin dependent diabetes, a long list of autoimmune diseases and even cancer.

They have created a customer for life because think about that chronically ill child goes from doctor to doctor to doctor who orders tests, tests, tests, procedures, procedures, procedures, writes prescriptions, dozens of prescriptions that back that child drives that economic system. Now compare that to a completely unvaccinated child who doesn’t go to the doctor, doesn’t, not on daily prescription medications. They’re not ordering tests, they’re not doing procedures. He may go to the doctor once a year for a school physical or for an occasional cold. You can’t build a multi billion dollar industry on the back of a health of backs of healthy unvaccinated children.

And they want that stopped. Well, you can if you do start redirecting it to how do we stay healthy? And you start looking at regenerative stuff for older people and stuff. But anyway, that’s, that’s not going to create a multi billion dollar pharmaceutical industry. Not pharmaceutical, no, but it’s really there’s a, I do think that there’s a, a health and wellness industry that is massive that could be increased if we focused on health and wellness and they’re not. But go ahead. Well, yes and no. I mean look at the difference. I mean integrated physicians and holistic doctors, you know, probably maybe make 100 grand a year.

You get a rent, you know, a normal internal medicine doctor, you know, that makes 250 a year, an oncologist, that makes 400 a year plus bonuses. So and all of these procedures get more and more and more expensive as you go to the specialists, subspecialists, super sub specialists along the ways. Well, they mark it up more though too. Like something that, like something that would cost somebody a dollar, they’re marking up to 50 bucks. Yeah, but that’s, none of that’s going to translate into hell, into health and wellness, which is okay, it’s okay. But just if you’re really talking about dollars to dollars, there are no comparisons.

So. Okay, so why do you think that? What do you think it says about a politician who ignores the health of the American people and children who are suffering at the expense of being paid off. Well I guess just that statement says it all. What you just said says it all. I mean it’s like do you even. Are you up here for yourself, money and greed or are you really up here to represent your constituents and serve the American, the American Constitution. And I would say if we took all, what is it? 452 people in Congress and interrogated each one of them and asked that question, I think you would be appalled at all the answers they will lip service to.

Oh, I’m here for my constituents. Oh I’m here to serve the American people. Well how did you Chuck Surmer end up with 81 million dollar net worth then as you were up here? Well, I’m pretty interested too in how women who are pregnant ended up getting vaccines. Because when I was pregnant, when Mike, you know, when my kids were being born, I was told you’re done. No medications, nothing. I wasn’t getting injected with vaccines. What changed? How did we get to a point where we realized that the, the pregnant woman’s body was almost a sanctuary? Don’t touch it to, let’s start cranking her with drugs.

What happened? I was at a conference at a CDC conference in Washington D.C. in 2004 and that was when they first started. I think I was the only non CDC employee at this meeting. And the meeting was the first international neo neonatal vaccination conference. And that, that meeting they floated the concept about starting to vaccinate pregnant women. It was an un tapped commodity, was an untrapped. Untapped. Untapped market. Untapped market, exactly. And I distinctly remember the guy sitting up on the stage going we will never get flu shots into pregnant women. There’s no way on the earth that the American College of Obstetric and Gynecology or anybody that’s delivering babies would ever let us vaccinate a pregnant woman.

You know we’ve got to do this from a political perspective. The same thing you know about like RSV with the new RSV vaccine that came out and with all these different things that say, you know these, these have high morbidity but they don’t have any mortality. And so we’re going to have to do this politically. So they went after the powers that be at the, at acog, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology which rule the roost when it comes to ob gyns and set the guidelines and make the dictates and they got them to say yes and write a bunch of bogus studies saying that women that got flu while they were pregnant were at a big increased risk of having a miscarriage and all this other stuff.

And so they, that’s how they gradually got that into the schedule, the flu shots. And considering the fact that the multi dose flu shots still have mercury, that’s a real problem. Then they did the same thing with Pertussis and they did the same thing with COVID They just slammed that on them. And now we’ve, we’ve, that had no background and now in this. And now we’re doing the same thing with RSV vaccines with pregnant women. And if you happen to be an Rh negative mom, you’re also going to get one or two Covid or one or two RhoGam shots.

And this is all going into the baby at the most critical developmental times of their anatomy is going in. Yeah. Do they have good numbers now to show what it was like before they did with no vaccines in the pregnant women to what it’s like now? Yeah, if you go back far enough, if you find the Data from the 70s and the 80s, there wasn’t any data because people didn’t get sick and get in the hospital. Nobody worried about it. You had the flu, you stay home and you, you know, eat chicken soup and you know, rest and you know, maintain, keep your fever in check.

And almost everybody just recovered from the flu. But again, it was, it’s like a lot of things that they do inside of the pharmaceutical industry is they, and you know this, you know this inside of like the psychiatric drug arm of the pharmaceutical industry and the vaccine industry and anything that the statins, you know, that they get, they get fabricated studies, they beef up the numbers or they get people to sign their names off on the studies that, that they didn’t even write, but they just got paid a big chunk of money to put their name on it in order to push an agenda.

It’s nothing, you know, if, if, if anybody really thinks the pharmaceutical industry and anybody in it really is doing any of this for us, they drank some pretty strong Kool Aid because it’s all about the money. It’s nothing about health. It’s nothing about, you know, they, you know, it’s all. When they talk about we were going to protect you and keep you healthy and make you well, that’s all marketing. It is all marketing. I know that my congresswoman is Angie Craig and I haven’t researched it lately, but I know she was leading the pack at coming up with vaccines, new vaccines for people to take and new legislation.

She had the most legislation. This was back in 2021. She was a big pharma lobbyist and. But she markets herself as for the little guy. And people believe it and they keep voting for. I don’t even know what they’re voting for, but people believe it and. But she’s up there working for big Pharma. And I think that’s pretty typical of these people. And so are you seeing that? You know, we know the Democrats are in the bed with big Pharma. We know that they’re. It’s, you know, hook, line and sinker. But are the Republicans too. Sure.

All the rhinos up there are hook, line and sinker too. They just claim to be. You know, the rhinos are, you know, pretty pervasive, you know, for the people listening. I’m sure with listening to your show, they know what a rhino is. It’s Republican in name only is what that stands for. That they’re really not, you know, the. A constitutionalist and really, you know, for the people and for freedom of speech and Second Amendment rights and all the things that libertarian mindset leaning towards Republicans should be. They’re just the antithesis of that. And that’s why we call them rhinos.

That. And I didn’t know that until a while back. You know, I hear that term all the time and I didn’t realize that that stood for Republican in name only. That’s what, you know, for your. Your audience probably knows that. But they’re. They’re pretty bad. And that brings us full circle back around to talking about the thing with Maha and, you know, Secretary Kennedy being in place. And so I think we need to continue to support what he’s trying to do and also keep the pressure on to say, you know, your constituents expect differently from you.

And if we. He gets a whole bunch of people write letters nicely and respectfully, you don’t have to, you know, be the bully in the China shop, you know, and encourage, you know, we’ve got to do this and every day, you know, push something out there to say we’ve got to stop this. Because why would the. Our government continue to promote something that’s killing people? That’s so exactly right. And I think that there is a big middle of this country. And I always say, because people think I’m a hardcore Republican for some reason, I don’t know.

I’ve always been in the middle. I’m an independent. I’ve always been in the middle. I think I Align more with them when it comes to more libertarian freedom of speech, freedom of, you know, religion, freedom of just. I like freedom. And I’m also more conservative when it comes to monetary policy. But, you know, we’ve gotten to a point where we have such extremes going on that, you know, I think the whole middle of the country is coming to a point where they agree with you on this, and they agree with where Bobby Kennedy is going with this.

How do we get the whole 70% of the country who really believes this? They want freedom, even. Maybe they want the vaccines available, but they don’t want them forced on people, you know, because I think that’s a big chunk, too. How do we get the majority of the country’s voice to be heard? I think that each person has to take. Make individual choice to be heard. You know, all. Paul, you know, government is big, but all politics is really local. You know, politics is big, but government is local is what I meant. You know, with your local school boards, your local city councils, your sheriff, your police department, your local doctors.

I mean, go down to your diner and talk to people sitting in there having coffee in the morning and really making a lot of the silent majority that you’re referring to know that they understand that they are the majority. Because during COVID we were so told to sit down and shut up with all the censorship that was going on. And we got to the place during, you know, Bush and Obama, that nobody wanted to talk about politics unless you knew you were talking to somebody on the same part of you because you didn’t want to take, you know, a bullet to the head.

You know, it’s like people would start, you know, like, very gingerly say, you know, what do you think about this policy? And, you know, that was never the way our country was at the beginning. We had people standing up, you know, debating in town halls or in the middle of the city square. You know, here, you know, both sides of the equation and hearing about things. So I think. But don’t you think. Hold on one second. Don’t you think what we’ve happened is that we’ve. We’ve turned it into a social dogma. If you believe in this policy, you’re racist.

Which doesn’t. How could my belief in not wanting you to do mandates for Covid make me a racist? How does that fully. I mean, that makes no sense. We’ve gotten to the point where policies, if you’re not a Democrat, you’re. You’re sexist and racist. And if you’re a Republican, you’re such it’s like why aren’t we just pulling apart these policies and looking. That’s why we used to be able to debate every policy because we didn’t place labels on something that didn’t have anything to do with that like we do now. Just a short break from the program to share with you an amazing peptide to help you lose weight.

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You know, it’s always about the, the first follower. You know that video that went around a few years ago about the first. The crazy, the crazy shirtless dancing guy. You remember that? I played that when I was at the teaching at the business school. I used to play that every semester. Yeah. So you know you’re out there being the crazy person, but the really brave person is the first follower. That’s the first person that stands up and goes, they’re not crazy. I believe in that, you know, and here’s why. And then there’s another follower and another follower until everybody’s like.

They feel like they don’t have to be afraid to speak up. And I think that that’s it. That’s the place we need to be because we’ve been shut down by like, the Black Lives Matter and the, you know, the, you know, all the different things, the Soros organizations and like, what you said, making sure you have the right pronoun and the DEI stuff and, and all of the ways that they shut people down and disparage people and call them. Get name, called them, call them racists. We need to, you know. You know, I remember when I was being accused of all the stuff of the.

The censorship stuff and. Which is a big port. Another big portion I wrote about in the book is that I remember when I was a kid, you know, I was. I. I got picked on a lot by the mean girls, you know, in my class. And my mom used to always say to me, you know, just always remember, sticks and stones can break your bones, but names can never hurt you. And. And she used to tell me that so that it would be like tefl. She’d go, just be Teflon. When they throw those darts at you, just deflect them.

Deflect, deflect. It’s not who you are. It’s not what you’re about. And you don’t really care what they have to say. That’s right. And. And I, from the time I was like seven or eight, I heard that pretty frequently from my mom growing up. Well, that’s a great, That’s a great lesson. And I think a lot of people, even black people or Hispanics or whoever, they’re being forced on this plantation. I think women are too. Like, I, I’m not, I’m not supported because I’m like deserted the plantation of the female thing or something. I don’t know.

Which I didn’t. You know, just because I have certain policy different. I never deserted that. But the same with like black people. If they become. They don’t. And, and actually more black people didn’t support the COVID mandates because they weren’t. Because of the history of some of the things that happened. But they get ostracized for not being part of this, like, plantation, and they have to have the courage to say no. That’s not, that’s not right. I don’t believe in these monetary policies. I don’t believe in these anti freedom things. I don’t believe in anti, you know, suppression of free speech.

I don’t believe in all these things that our country stood for. Because you claim I need to be on some plantation because I fit some kind of freaking profile. You know, I was on a, a pod. This was a couple, this was during COVID I was on some podcast. Somebody was interviewing me and they said, I want to ask, ask you a personal question. What do you think is the biggest problem in the world today? And I sat there for a second and I thought about it and I said, lack of courage. Yep. And they said, oh, that’s pretty good.

And I said, well, really, people are afraid of what other people might think or what they might do or what they might say. And so they don’t speak up. And so the lack of, of moral courage and constant in beliefs, in the, in being able to stand up for the things you believe, you know, your constitutional rights, all the things that you mentioned, you know, about freedom of religion, freedom of speech, speech, you know, the ability to say, no, I’m not doing that. Covid shot even. It cost me my job. I’m going to trust that. I’m going to get a bigger, better one.

I don’t need to be poisoned by you people. You know, whatever it is, you know, it’s like the ability to stand your ground and know who you are and, and just be Teflon. Just be Teflon when people throw darts at you and have a courage. I remember during the early years of COVID I would talk about courage non stop. You have to have courage. Yeah. And we still do, right? I mean, we have to have more. It doesn’t stop because the, that has stopped and it seems like it’s not as bad. You have to have the courage to change.

Now I, I want to ask you because we’re seeing a lot of extreme pushback against. It feels like it’s actually supported by the other side. But they represent themselves as being part of the Maho movement. But it’s extreme pushback, almost a point they want. They, they’re just anti Maha, even though they claim to be part of the Maha movement and they give them no grace whatsoever. Now I think if Bobby Kennedy can sign his pen away and change some of this stuff, I don’t know why he’s not. I think you mentioned that before, but these people are almost to the point where you wonder what Their motivations are they’re against everything and not supportive.

Knowing that there’s a, a political climate that these people are realistically dealing with. What do you say to that? Well, I guess I can, you know what first thing comes to mind is like, we don’t always get everything we want, or we at least, at the very least don’t always get everything we want on the timeline that we wanted. Well, that’s for sure. You know, so all of these things may come to fruition, but they may not have happened yesterday, you know, or just because we stomped our foot. It didn’t happen. You know, and we’re not privy to the conversations that are happening behind closed doors.

We’re not at the boardrooms, we’re not in the Senate hearings. We don’t know in the halls of the Senate when people path each other what’s going on. We don’t know. And so, you know, just claim that we, we have privy to that. That’s why I say that, you know, we need to keep the pressure on, but to do it respectfully and to know, you know, I think about that sometimes, even like in, in my own prayers, you know, when the Bible says, you know, God, you know, asking it is given what isn’t always given on the timeline you want.

That’s for sure. And if you got everything that you wanted on your timeline, it might be a big disaster, you know, and so. Spoiled brat. Exactly. Exactly. So I think that it’s important to make our voices heard and to continually push for, because there’s zero reason, none, no reason for these, these 500 MRNA vaccines that they have in their pipeline to go anywhere. These are death and destruction technologies. Incredible that they have. And so there’s no reason. And we have to keep our voices heard and keep the pressure on about that. Because my big concern about that, Sarah, is that, you know, we may be educated and we may know and we say, I’m never taking one of those shots until what happens if we have to, what happens if there’s really mandatory vaccination, which we didn’t have before, but what if you can’t buy groceries? What if you can’t pay your, your house? That’s why we have to be diligent.

We can’t, we have to keep the freedom open, let freedom ring. We have to keep the freedom to not have to take these and fight it very seriously. Exactly. I, I, we can do it respectfully. We don’t have to, we don’t have to be mudslingers. I made the argument with Dr. Remill about. Well, she was on my show and she, I asked her, I told her that and I wanted your opinion on this. I know everybody has different opinions, but I said don’t they have the right, do you think? Because I’m a libertarian minded person, do they have the right.

I think they have the right to get the vaccine if they want, but we absolutely need to maintain the right to not take it if we don’t want it. Whatever vaccine it is, we have the right to take it or not take it. She said that with some of these vaccines coming down the pike that are the ones that are manufactured to vaccinate others in the vicinity, that that is something that we have to take at a whole nother level because now they’re vaccinating everybody without my consent at all. What do you think? She’s 100. Right.

You know, because this tr. This, you know, during COVID I tried very hard to get people to see that, to stop using the word shedding and to use the word transmission. Because shedding is like chickenpox. You know, I, if I get a chickenpox vaccine, it’s a live virus vaccine, I can shed it on you and you get chickenpox. Well, with COVID I, if I shed, shed Covid on you, you don’t necessarily get a respiratory infection. You may start bleeding vaginally, you may get ringing in your ears, you may get seizure disorders, you may get myocarditis. So something is being transmitted.

That’s, that’s. And we still don’t know exactly what it is. We think it was the spike protein, but we’re not sure. Nobody’s ever really tested that. But it’s something that is that it goes from me to you, me as a vaccinated person to unit, I’m vaccinated person unwillingly that you don’t want it. And, and she’s right about that, that we really do have to consider the consequences of what’s happening with these MRNA nano nanotechnology particles. And then the self applicate, self amplicating RNAs. The Sarnas should never be allowed on the planet. They’ve already been released in Japan and they’re just, it’s, it’s a magnet.

The ones that vaccinate your neighbor. Like if I get it, my whole family’s vaccinated. Those should be outlawed. Yeah. And the, in the essay are the self amplifying RNA vaccines. They repeat over and over and over and every time they run through the ribosomes and they make another protein, there’s the possibility of it getting a little bit corrupted. So the next time they run through, we get Franken proteins, we don’t get the same protein, we get another protein and another protein and another protein and our, our own God given immune system system is going what is going on in here? And it starts attacking everything and attacks itself.

Didn’t we used to have higher standards? We were not going to just shove this crap down people’s throat because I want to make money so bad that I don’t care what happens. They, they used to have higher standards that we will take 10 years to make sure this is safe for a population before we give it to everybody. Exactly. Yeah. And but you know, it’s always been always, always with every vaccine, it’s always been that the stage, stage one clinical trials is in the laboratory. Stage two they do with animals, Phase three is what they do with small sets of humans.

Phase four, they do a larger human population and then they release it out to the general population. Well, that stage 5 clinical trial is still a big experiment because even when they do these clinical trials, they always exclude sick people. You can’t take this vaccine if you have seizure disorders or cardiovascular disease, you’re on certain medications, you can’t do any of that stuff. But yet when it’s released to everybody, oh, everybody has to get it. And you that are sick are the most vulnerable. So you are the most, what, the most important one to get the shot.

It’s always been like that. Well, and they, in the recent studies, if they continue this practice, they not only do they not include people that are sick, they actually also hide the data. So you don’t get to see what happens to certain populations as. And the new thing is they no longer use a placebo in a clinical trial. In 2013, the World Health Organization came out with new standards that said that if there is an existing vaccine that is to be used as the comparator to the new vaccine. So if you’re bringing a hepatitis new hepatitis B vaccine to the market, you have to use an existing hepatitis B vaccine as a comparator because that’s already been said to be safe and effective.

So if this side effects is the same as the existing side effects, they’re both safe and effective and we can just release this to people. You know, that’s just the way it is. And my big concern about that is that there’s some talk about reevaluating the entire pediatric vaccine schedule, all 16 vaccines that are on that schedule, and comparing it to an MRNA form of that vaccine. So if you get an MRNA hepatitis B vaccine compared to a standard one of safe and effective, that’s already on the schedule and the side effects are the same, they’ll say, well, the MRNA one is faster to make.

It’s more cost effective. We’ll just switch them out. The side effects are the same. We’ll just. We’ll just switch them out. And I think that’s possibly where we’re headed. You have a book that you wrote and that I want people to know about because you. It’s a kind of accumulation of 25 or all of your work over the last few decades. And, you know, Covid gave you the opportunity to share with so many people the research that you’ve had done for years. And now you have this book that people who think they know what’s going on are learning a lot from.

I mean, you were just telling me before we had, you know, the show that, you know, some of the leaders in the freedom movement, medical movement read your book and were like, gosh, I’m learning a lot from this. So can you talk about what’s in your book? Yeah, the new book, the name of the book, if you don’t mind. It’s. It’s Zero Accountability. Zero accountability in a Failed system. That’s. The COVID of the book. Looks a little bit ominous. I guess you can’t see it with the zoom. There you go. I can see it. Yeah. And it’s Zero Accountability in a Failed system.

How Big Pharma Weaponizes Vaccines. Vaccines, Public health and the law. And sus. Dr. Suzanne Humphries wrote the Forward. And Suzanne and I have been friends for a really long time. And she wrote, graciously wrote the forward to the book. And she said, I really, you know, so she wanted to read the book first, obviously, before she wrote the forward. She said, I thought that I knew all this stuff. And she said, when I. But when I read it, the way that you say it and put the way you piece things together, I learned a whole lot of things.

And I just talked. Was on a show a while ago with Katherine Auster Fitz and her. Her co partner, her co. Co person on her show. And she said, I’ve read about a third of your book. And I can’t believe. And she’s a lawyer. And she said, I can’t believe her name. Yes, Bets, that’s it. And she said, I can’t believe how much I’ve learned, even from the legal stuff, from this. And so most people that read it find it very interesting and Easy to read. It’s not just a bunch of factoids. In fact, almost everybody has said to me it’s hard to put down.

Once I start reading it. I just, I just, I’m really engrossed in what you say and how you put it together. So. So I hope people will get it. It’s zero accountability in a failed system. If you go out to. Right now we’re just selling on Amazon because we’re having a hard time getting it on Barnes and Nobles and other platforms. I don’t know if they don’t like me or if they don’t like the name of the book. I’m not sure, but it’s been a struggle. Is. Is shifting a bit to be a little bit more inclusive, which I’m liking.

It seems of the big media platforms, they’re one of the ones that are shifting and hopefully we’ll see more shift to more of a moderate center. Like, like I was saying before, 70% or more of the American people are warming up to this idea of something’s off here and they just don’t want it anymore. And so there’s a whole middle ground of moderate people. And I think smart companies like Amazon maybe are starting to take notice. Well, and it’s where all the eyeballs are. It’s just convenient. It’s just convenient, you know, and so it’s. And I know a lot of people don’t like to buy from Amazon for a lot of reasons.

And so that’s why we’re trying to get it over onto Barnes and Nobles. But right now it is on Amazon and you know, we’ve done pretty well with the book and people that have read it have, like I said, have read it, they’ve really enjoyed it. So hopefully your audience will. There’s a ton of stuff in there. There’s stuff about the bird flu and, and Covid and about past pandemics, about the swine flu pandemic. There’s stuff about the scam of Tamiflu. There’s a chapter called A Sacrifice for the Greater Good that talks about the covered countermeasure injury compensation program that was set up through the PREP act and how all of those injured parties are going to get thrown underneath the bus.

Then there’s some things that even in our health freedom community we don’t talk about very much. And it’s called a chapter called the 40 Year March to 2030. We talk about the Healthy people program and how it’s become more invasive and more inserted and into the global vaccination Agenda and the surveillance that’s happening with tracking. And then the last. The last chapter is the one I think is really good, because after I lay out all of this just shoot me now material, you know, like, oh, my gosh, I can’t believe how bad this is. Like, the weaponization.

There’s a chapter on the weaponization of the. Of our. Of our public health, the how public health became weaponized. And it actually started in 1798 and just got worse as time went on. It talks about. We talk about clean water really being more important than vaccines ever were. And then chapter 19 is tying it all together, the activist playbook. So I end it on a thing of, like, here’s some things that you can do that you can get involved, that you can enjoy. Like. Like, don’t keep your. Don’t take your hands off the steering wheel and don’t take your foot off the gas.

You know, keep going. Because now that you know, you can’t unknow. And now that you know, you need to take action and move forward. That’s right. Once you learn, you can’t unlearn, it’s incredible. Well, thank you so much. Thank you for having the courage to be out in front. I know you’ve taken a lot of beatings. I know what that’s like quite a bit. So thank you so much for, you know, having that courage, because I think you’ve saved a lot of lives, and, you know, maybe before you die, you’ll get some recognition for that, and if not, you’ll join a lot of big, big famous people who haven’t.

So just thank you and know that there’s those of us out there who. Who appreciate it and can see what you’ve done. Well, thank you so much, Sarah. Thank you for having me on. And, you know, it’s just. You just got to keep going. When you know what. It’s. When you know what you know, you can unknow it. You just got to keep doing. You do the same thing. So congratulations and thank you for all the work that you’ve done, and thank you for having me on your show. You’re welcome. Thanks, Sa.
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