Leo Zagami on Charlie Kirk killers bullet with Italian WWII phrase bella ciao and Jesuit LGBTQ+

➡ Michael Jacob and Leo Zagami discuss various topics, including censorship, mind control, and manipulation. They talk about how narratives are controlled and manipulated, especially in the context of recent events and ideologies. They also discuss the influence of extreme ideologies and how they can be used to manipulate people. Lastly, they touch on the topic of Bella Ciao, a phrase written on a bullet casing, and its connection to leftist movements.
➡ The speaker discusses his experiences with a song called Bella Ciao, which was used to torment him during his time in an institute. He also talks about his views on the political and social issues in Italy and the world, including the influence of Sabbatian Frankism, the manipulation of certain groups for political gain, and the role of the Vatican and Pope Leo in promoting LGBTQ+ rights. He expresses concern about the lack of acknowledgment of problems within the LGBTQ+ community, particularly in relation to violent acts committed by individuals within this group.
➡ The text discusses political manipulation, open border policies, and the impact on America’s safety. It also mentions the death of activist Charlie Kirk and the fading public interest in the Jeffrey Epstein case. The text further delves into the influence of funding from the Democratic Party and the potential brainwashing of individuals for political gain. Lastly, it touches on the growing Muslim population in America and the potential imposition of Sharia law.
➡ The speaker discusses various political figures and their actions, expressing disappointment in their compromises and failures. They mention the positive impact of Trump’s administration on crime rates, but criticize the lack of progress on other issues. They also discuss the influence of ideologies in universities and the negative effects of certain policies in California. The speaker ends by warning against the potential dangers of certain individuals and groups gaining power.
➡ The text discusses the influence of the Jesuits, a religious order within the Catholic Church, on various figures and institutions, particularly in education. It suggests that the Jesuits have a significant impact on the world, including in politics and education, and have even been involved in controversial events. The text also touches on the rise of artificial intelligence and its potential dangers, such as the possibility of people being manipulated by AI. It ends by discussing a specific incident involving a German Mauser gun.
➡ The text discusses concerns about the influence of video games and online chat rooms on individuals, leading to potential violence. It also touches on the controversial topics of transgender rights and the presence of transgender individuals in the military. The text further delves into the fear of increasing censorship and the potential for deplatforming. Lastly, it discusses the concept of transhumanism, the idea of integrating technology into the human body, and the potential societal implications of such advancements.
➡ The speaker praises Charlie Kirk, a figure who treated everyone equally and challenged people intellectually. They express concern about the safety of those who openly oppose popular opinion, citing their own experiences of threats and the need for costly security. The speaker also discusses the impact of social media, which has given everyone a platform to voice their opinions, leading to amplified conflicts. They believe a civil war is unlikely, but acknowledge the growing tension in society.
➡ Universities should encourage diverse ideas, but currently, they seem to push a single ideology. Despite this, there’s hope as young people are becoming more politically active and seeking positive change. However, it’s concerning that some people, influenced by extreme ideologies, are transforming institutions like the Democratic Party. The goal should be to bring back truth and facts into our discussions and honor those who promote open dialogue, like Charlie.

Hello, everyone. It’s Michael Jacob with Unleashing Intuition Secrets, joined once again by Leo Zagami, the Illuminati, you know, Revealer, Confessions of Illuminati. So you definitely revealing. Every time he comes on a show, I talk to people from behind the scenes that give me little bits and pieces of intelligence. When Leo comes on, it’s an explosion of intelligence and he’s not hiding it. It’s been, it’s amazing. So, Leo, so, so glad to have you on again. Now you’ve done a couple articles. There was one on the bullet that the shooter of. You know, just recently, the assassination that happened, uh, I, I had YouTube come in and take down a video that I did on that.

So we’ll kind of, you know, be careful how we talk about, uh, the recent assassination. But, uh, and also, why did you take it down? I mean, it was hate speech. All I was doing was just revealing information. And, you know, that’s, that’s controlling the narrative, as we know. And that’s, that’s kind of the way, you know, we try. We’re the narrative destroyers. And that’s why I love to have you on. But, you know, hate speech, I guess Pam Bondi came out and said that anyone that goes after, I guess the narrative of Charlie Kirk and his death is going to get a visit by the DOJ or they’re going to come after them.

Well, but it doesn’t really look like you will be the typical guy because you are not really a leftist or somebody from that side of the fence. So it really is more to do probably with the YouTube and with the algorithms of YouTube are dictating probably these days, like you said, following a narrative. Now, this event that just happened, it really brings us to a new level of mind control and manipulation. As you know, I published last year a book, Volume 11, in which I focused a lot also on what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania. But at the same time as Trump has just announced that maybe leftist groups here in the United States will be designed as terrorists.

We have to understand that just like for volume 10, where the design manipulated lot is the Muslim fundamentalists, the Salafists, which have been manipulated in all kind of ways, from Al Qaeda to isis, we have instead now a new form of terrorism and of manipulated kind of subjects with an ideology which they managed to manipulate. Because you see, the thing is the puppeteers only need an ideology that triggers people like Tyler Robinson, who went and killed Charlie Kirk. So the fact that now we are in front and we saw it in the last few weeks Also with the attack on the Catholic school by transgender, I mean transgenders are mentally more unstable by nature and so more easy to trigger, just like the Muslim fundamentalist.

So I’m not saying here that, you know, we are in front of a conspiracy of transgenders who are hiding on discord and stuff only or same could be said for the people who went and did the 9 11. They were simply mercenaries of this new world order with the ideology which was easy to trigger against the system. So I think that we are in front of a new set of people that they can mind control and manipulate. And of course extreme woke ideology seems to be going now into that direction. Especially because you know what happened with Cancel Culture, when of course we had people like Joe Biden and Kamala in the White House.

They were inviting transgenders in the White House. They were even having a transgender transgender showing his tits in front of the White House alone there in the garden of the White House. So now that they have been like that, culture is kind of removed from public discourse with the Trump presidency. They are moving instead on the aggressive way, on the aggressive direction. And of course they have the support of also the Jesuits. And like you were telling me before we started this show, you read of course, my latest article which I published four days ago on the, on September 12th, and it’s regarding the Italian phrase written on Tyler Robinson’s bullet casing.

Bella Ciao. Now we have seen in the last few days so many lies from the left trying to ascribe this murder to a. To somebody who was born within a Maga family. And so he had to be Maga. He had to be a right wing guy who simply didn’t like Charlie Keg for no what reason? It didn’t make sense. It doesn’t make sense. And clearly the fact that we have Bella Chau written on it. And I’m from Italy, so I can confirm that. You know, I mean, there is people that of course here in America don’t know what Bella Chow is.

But Bella Chau has become in the last few decades more and more connected to all those George Soros and now Alex Soros founded groups. So it’s like from the feminist to the transgender, the lgbt, whatever, everything with Bella Ciao is apparently and obviously a leftist movement that has picked up on this song that used to be used, they claim now just to make you understand what Bella Chow is, this Bella Chow was in reality born in the 1960s, but they claim that it was sung by the female workers in the fields during the Second World War who were supporting the resistance against Benito Mussolini and fascism.

It’s a completely artificial story and tale that doesn’t have any base into reality. The reality is that in the 60s, when of course MKULTRA was at, you know, was pushing all the propaganda and everything that went with it, LSD and Love, flower power and whatever Italy, who was starting to become entrenched in a political war that will, by order of the cat, become the strategy of tension that then in the 70s exploded with even a Prime Minister, Aldo Moro, who was kidnapped, but they ascribed it to the Red Brigades. But in reality it was Harry Kissinger with Steve Pisnick, who took care of this operation on behalf of Kissinger, who got angry because Aldo Moro wanted to do this alliance between the Christian Democrats and the Communist Party.

And this didn’t really work out with what America had built together with their own Masonic forces in Italy since the end of the Second World War to readjust Italy after Fascism. And so there was of course a lot of killings. There was. I mean, I was brought up in the 70s, you know, I was born in 1970. So I still remember very clearly the political assassinations, the tension, the tanks in the street. It was really a tense situation. It was a tense situation that I don’t think Americans or people who didn’t live in Italy understand fully.

But it was of course orchestrated by Gladio stayed behind operation together with the P2 Lodge, which of Riccio Jelly. And it became a way for stay behind operations. Of course, like I explained also in my books, was an operation built to resist communism. At the time the number one enemy. But even that was an ideology that could be used. So the Red Brigades became the tool for the system, to oppress the system. For example, I make an example. A journalist wrote something against a politician he didn’t like. That journalist, a few days later will be shot in the legs by the Red Brigades with this cues that he was against the proletary and against the.

The real values of the left, you know, some BS like that. Now that is what is happening here. It’s like the instrumental use of weak people, people that suddenly find themselves believing that Charlie Kirk was the ultimate evil. Okay, so, and this is a little bit like what I also explained in the case of. Of the Muslim fundamentalists. It’s easy to manipulate people who go with this extreme ideologies. Now we. We see how the left caught of course in. Inside the situation in which we have seen in the last few days the chapters of Turning Point USA have become from 1000.

There is now 36,000 requests by various universities. 36,000. That means that just like the wife of Charlie said, they don’t know what they have unleashed. They completely got the opposite result. So when I saw that Bella Chow was one of the things that this guy had written down on the bullet casing, I was shocked. But at the same time, it was a confirmation, because if people read my books, in particular volume 8 of my Confessions that you have read, of course, you can see that I dedicate a whole page to my own experience. My own experience with Bella Chau was a traumatic one.

I, at the end of 2013, participated and instigated what was known as the revolution of the Forconi, the pitchfork civil unrest in Italy that lasted two or three months. Okay. We managed to convince initially also the unions to join us, but they quickly jumped off when they saw the pressure. And of course they got also money. In the end, everybody was threatened. I wasn’t giving up. The Carabinieri police broke through my door, they picked me and they brought me forcefully into a mental institute. And every morning, because they knew I was somebody who was an anti communist, they will come into my room and play Bella Ciao this song, because Bella Ciao is a song which is, like I said, the representative of.

Of a culture. Not so long ago, during the pandemic, Bella Chow was even played through the. The speakers of a mosque in Turkey. I have the recording of it. Wow. So now there is a really weird alliance here that we are assisting. Yeah. On one side we have the Muslim experience extremist. On the other side you have these people, these people who will not last two minutes in Gaza, they will stone them, they will throw them off a roof, but they go around with, you know, in the tried marches with Gaza and all that. Now, I’m not saying that what is happening in Gaza is not bad, but the thing is that what happened in Gaza was also triggered voluntarily.

Not so long ago, just two weeks ago, there was confirmation that the Jewish intelligence stepped down that day, that the military who were about to intervene to protect that rave which was on the border with Gaza, didn’t go there. So this is what we are dealing here. There is within Israel a Sabbatian frankist element which I have denounced in volume 10 of my confessions, as you know, in the last chapter, which is the one that was responsible also for the protocols of the Sages of Zion. Now, it’s very difficult for people to understand the dangers of Sabbathian frankism.

And I saw, for example, yesterday there was Nick Fuentes, who was attacking Candice Owen. Because I must say, Candice in the last few months has mentioned more than once the Sabatian frankist. And I was pretty surprised. Candice was also a friend of Charlie Kirk. Yeah. Instead, Nick Fuentes went yesterday on X and said, oh, she talks about the frankest. She doesn’t know what she’s talking about. She wants to take the skin of Brigitte Macron, like in Silence of the Lambs, and become, you know, a serial killer of sorts. I mean, Nick Fuentes is completely insane. He’s an individual.

Wow. What happened? It’s crazy. It’s completely insane. So Bella Chow. Every morning I was in this place, locked up for two weeks, this doctor will come in with his mobile phone and Bella Chow in the mobile phone playing. And I couldn’t do anything to stop him. So one day I managed to put on my phone without him knowing, calling a friend of mine and saying, record what you are, because I didn’t have a recorder on the phone I had there. It was like they left me just an old phone I could call from, you know. So I called my friend and he recorded it.

He recorded them playing Bella Chow first thing in the morning. Every single morning. It was like, you know, I explained in volume 11 of my confessions, mind control and how it works. My father also even worked with MKULTRA in France. So, I mean, I had also direct experiences from what he told me about their experiments and everything else. But the. The crazy thing of having this Bella child played, and it was really like he was laughing while he was playing it. This doctor. Imagine you having a doctor wearing a white thing, you know, coming inside and playing it, like, just to trigger you.

Yeah. I wasn’t prisoner war training in the military, and they. They played over and over songs like that where we’re in our little. It’s like what I explained with Guantanamo Bay in volume eight of my confessions, I also explained that. And in volume 18 of my confessions, I specifically talk about Bella Chow. And I talk about Giuseppe Nicolo, the professor who works also with the Vatican, who is a member of the Tavistock Institute, who conducted this torture because it was torture. Yeah. I eventually throw lawyers and everything, managed to get out of there. I eventually, thanks to my fate, saved myself.

But also thanks to the help of a doctor called Dr. Vento, who basically told me, leo, just politics is off limits now in Italy because as soon as you go back into politics, they’re going to lock you up. Wow. So I said, okay. And like, a couple weeks from. From when he said that I took a plane with my wife. We came here to California in 2014, and I managed to meet, through Sean Stone, Brad Olsen. I published my first books in the English language. I had to go back to Italy. And in Italy, the persecution continued by those people who love Bella, Ciao.

Wow. So for me, Bella Chow represents everything that is wrong in this society today. First of all, because the song was never sung during the war. It was not a resistance song. It’s an artificial construct. It’s BS. It’s propaganda. This song came out in the 60s and it should be simply treated as a piece of propaganda. It worked out for the Italian left. So it’s almost like they’re trying to push this as that narrative. You know, of course, Mussolini was captured and hung in the square, so it was okay to kill him because he was a fascist.

And that’s what they’re trying to do now. Not only. Yeah, because then one of the other casing, it was written catch a fascist. And then you have also the transgender words in favor of the transgender ideology. It’s very. What Hitler did, he used the brown shirts to get into power, and they were run by homosexuals. So he killed all the homosexuals, saying other homosexuals are just going to kill them off because they’re homosexuals. So was this Iter used those homosexual. Until the Night of the Long Knives, or whatever it was called, in which he killed them all.

But he used them? Yes. Like the transgenders are being used. Yes. You know, he used them until he could, you know, he didn’t need them anymore. Right. And so this is going to happen with these people. I mean, if. If one day they don’t need them anymore, they will be simply taken out of the picture. So what is happening here is very clear. We have a reference, and more than one reference, that this is a guy who was brainwashed with the leftist ideology. We also know that his companion was a transgender. We also know that he was active in Internet forums with other people who were transgenders.

Now, everything that is happening at the moment is simply, you know, they are investigating how much those people knew before the event. And apparently he even had a note that was left at this transgender home. But the crazy thing about it all is the Pope, Pope Leo xiv. And that really goes back to what I written in volume 12 of my confessions, because, as you know, one of the protagonists of my latest book, which is the last of my confession series, is Father James Martin, the head of communications almost of the Vatican, because he’s the editor of America The Jesuit Review.

And he’s the one who has arranged at the beginning of September this pilgrimage of LGBTQ whatever and their families to Rome in which he brought them to the Pope. He brought them around Rome to all the various Jesuit churches. And this really makes you understand also the evil, because Father James Martin, when there was the killing of that other transgender who went and killed those innocent. Two innocent kids and injured many others at the opening of the school year in a Catholic school, Father James Martin on his X account simply tweeted that two kids were killed and you know, peace be upon whatever.

Peace and love, whatever. But he was not even commenting. He actually retweeted these two were. They were killed two Catholic kids, without mentioning that the guy responsible was another transgender pervert. Feud with demons who even draw in his manifesto of sick and twisted because they have each one of these transgenders, usually when they kill, and they can be men or they can be women. We saw him in the schools, they make manifestos who usually are covered the less possible by the media. The media tends to hide the manifesto of these assassins, okay? Because it will expose the sick woke ideology for what it is.

So James Martin, instead of apologizing, of saying, we have a problem in the LGBTQ whatever community, transgender community, he went to the Pope with no chalance. And after the. Just not even a week from the. The killing that happened there, he just said on X, sorry, I’m not going to be much on X. I’m going to Rome now and we’re all going to be there. And he’s very flamboyant himself, Father James Marty. And he was immediately received by Pope Leo as soon as he arrived in Rome. And then of course, he did his. Because this year is a jubilee year, so people, Catholics are kind of obliged to go to Rome on pilgrimage.

And he has organized this big pilgrimage of sodomites and transgender and whatever. Now, I don’t have anything against gay people necessarily, but the problem here is that you need to admit that there is a problem in your community. And if you don’t do it, then it becomes a little bit suspicious because we know that the Jesuits are themselves on top of this pyramid of manipulation at a political level. They are the ones who have also encouraged the open borders and they have condemned over and over again people like Tom Holman and what Trump is doing for America by finally having the.

The decency of saying, that’s it. We had enough with these open borders and these policies that are obviously ruining America and making it more unsafe. However, we have also Another problem suddenly with the killing of Charlie Kirke, it seems like it disappeared from the discourse nationally, both left and right. Nobody’s talking anymore about Jeffrey Epstein. Now, we know that Charlie Kirk definitely was somebody who was not, you know, he wanted to be always honest and transparent. He might not have been always super informed about everything, but Charlie Kirk was an activist who also liked in his shows, you know, his podcast, his radio show, TV show, whatever he did, he liked to discuss things.

And he was actually very much interested in the evolution of this whole Epstein thing because, I mean, something strange has happened. They. It’s almost like by going after Epstein and Gillian Maxwell, they got too close to something that can’t be touched. And we discussed this also in our last show. Now, Michael, in regards to the Sabatian Frankist, in regards to what? And there is definitely a lot more that will come out, hopefully soon that will clear up maybe. But I mean, it seems like when it comes, you know, after seeing those, those ladies, those victims in front of the Congress, people like Major Taylor Greene siding with them, and now suddenly after what happened with poor Charlie, we, we.

It’s almost like has evaporated in thin air. What is your thought about that, Michael? Yeah, I think there’s, you know, a lot of people that are very suspect as far as, like, there’s funding seems to be coming from Democrat Party for this Tyler Robinson. They’ve been pointing that out. Cassio Cortez is involved with this Democrat funding group, also Mamdani. So it’s. I mean, who. Who benefits? Who would benefit from Tyler Robinson’s, you know, actions? So you have to look at that. And it’s almost like we go back to what I said earlier. You know, you have, you know, you have this terrorist, because I simply called Robinson a terrorist.

A terrorist maybe a bit, you know, who was brainwashed by his transgender partner. That seems pretty obvious. His family was a mega family, was a family of patriots, of people who love this country, who, who actually they broke with this transgender who hated them because this transgender instead supported Joe Biden. Of course, but in a pyramid of manipulation, where do they stand? Tyler is not the guy on top, obviously. There is other people who have been obviously pushing, I mean, triggering these people. And we have, of course, the example of a whole book I made, the volume 11.

You know, triggering these people with complex psyops, complex mind control operations is part of what. I mean, what came out of that whole experiment with MKUltra that went on from 1953 to 1973 actually started even before with Aftershock Blue and other projects that were conducted before. Eventually they came out as M.K. utah in 1953. And from that moment onwards, they experimented in various ways. You know, they experimented with subcultures, with drugs, with this, that and all the other. So today we have the Internet. And in fact, when the leftists now want to defend themselves, they simply say that Tyler Robinson was a victim of the Internet, victim of the.

Of what he found on these forums online, these gamer places like Discord. That is, of course, the excuse, right. When instead, you know, it’s pretty clear from going back to Bella Ciao that this is instead part of a much wider terrorist network, antifa, financed by Soros. And. And they might get away with it. They might get away with it because it’s so compartmentalized, this whole thing, that in the end, yes, me and you or many others on the Internet can come out, you know, can come out with many theories. The guys who were giving strange signals before the shooting, this, that and all the other.

The, the forums online, of course, now the FBI is investigating, but it’s very difficult to then really wage war against Soros. It’s not simple because Soros, and I’m talking about both Alex and his father, have so much stuff against people like Clinton, Obama and all that that they hold this. They hold their Congress and the White House in their pockets. Even with Trump there, they are still so powerful. And that is the problem here. Yes, Trump, if you remember not so long ago, before all this happened, mentioned Soros and the fact that he wanted to go after him.

But we have to be very honest here. Going after Soros is almost a little bit like here. Michael, I remember our last conversation when we discussed also about our friend Nino, who, by the way, I will be on his show soon. So we will be discussing things with the Rodriguez a little bit. But did anybody arrest Obama? No, you. I mean, you’re right so far. So, you know, he’s. He’s not been. So I guess the bet’s still open. No, but the thing is not being right or wrong. The thing is that these people are untouchable. Yeah.

And so, yes, there can be some threats from one side to the other, some vocal threats. You know, Trump saying this, Obama says that, but it’s kind of like we are assisting to a theater play in which no real action is going to be taken between the actors who are in the theater play, because it’s a play. They can’t be. And, and we are, unfortunately, the guy, the spectators, the ones who are saying, oh, yes, that guy. That guy. Yes, he’s gonna be. No, he’s gonna get it. Who he’s gonna do? I don’t think so. And it’s a think about like we had in the last few days, Saturday, an historic event in London.

And of course, you know, millions of people. The left says 100,000, but of course, the left, you know, 3 million, they go down to 110,000. But aside from the numbers, I know London. I lived in London for 10 years. I know this, this town. My mother is from London. I know when the streets are full how many people they are, because, you know, it’s almost like my second home, London, after Rome. So I saw these people marching. I saw what is happening in England. And I know that if it gets too dangerous for the system, they have already a way out.

And, you know, what is the way out, Michael? Send them to work with Russia. There you go. They’ve been talking about that quite a bit. So that’s, that’s one reason why people really should rise up and push back on this. Now, this, this one. Tyler Robinson. Yeah, but we know the colleges, as we’re seeing now, are indoctrination centers for this. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. But let’s not forget that Trump is on his way to visit King Charles, who is a closet Muslim, who is himself responsible for this state of things in England, where most of the. Of the cities of England are now in the hands of Muslims mayors.

Wow. Every single major city in England, and I’m not saying only London or Birmingham, every is. It’s a Islamic mayor. Wow. So here in America, we have 6 million. I spoke about it, as you know, in volume 10 of my confessions, we have approximately between 5 and 6 million Muslims. And they are starting to show what they are by taking over whole cities. In places like Michigan, both the Sunnis and the Shia has taken different cities, and they are now becoming more and more threatening towards the Christians that are becoming a minority in these cities. And this is just to give you an example, because we have a bunch of them also here in California.

We even have 300,000 of them in Texas. We have a bunch of Muslims present here in America who will, of course, greet you with peace and love. You know, peace be upon you and love Allah and all the rest. But in reality, once they become the majority, they start imposing their Sharia, their rules. And of course, Tommy Robinson has sacrificed all his life for this cause. I don’t care what Nigel Farage says about him. I think that Tommy Robinson, he might be the typical English Bloke, or lad, however you want to call him, you know, from the.

From the. The States there, from. From the port, let’s say, from the poorest part of England, you know, the council estates, how they call them. And. And he is, though, very much loved in England at the moment. He has a large following also because he has passed. So how. How many years he has spent in prison. Yeah. Sacrificing his own life like a true political martyr to the cause. Just like Charlie became a martyr. He, Robinson, is on his way to become one. I hope he never gets killed, but, you know, that is a possibility. The fact that now Trump goes to visit Charles and he doesn’t visit Tommy Robinson, the fact that we have Prince Andrew involved with Epstein, the fact that.

And I’m sorry to say that, because Trump does a great thing also for his country, but they are all compromised. Every single one of them. Left, right, center of the political arena. They are all compromised. Wow. So you’re. You’re moving that direction. So I know that, you know, there’s me moving. We are moving as. We are moving as a human species towards a situation in which, of course, I, you know, I realized that, for example, Elon Musk has said very, very. He said, we have to fight. Otherwise, you know, that’s it. You have to fight, you know, but everybody seems to have a level of compromise in this fight.

And so, yes, we are drawn into this theater, like we said a moment ago, of politics, with actors playing their roles, but it’s very difficult that we really get to some real change that will affect us positively. And he said, I mean, the thing that I can confirm is positive about the Trump administration is, of course, the security against the crime, these illegal immigrants. I mean, we are talking here about visible changes. I mean, in Palm Springs, where I live, every evening we had three or four robberies. Now we don’t have even one. We had shootings almost every night at one point under the Joe Biden administration.

Now, I never hear a gunshot. These are concrete changes, and I thank the President for making that possible. But I would like to also have maintained the other promises. And the Epstein case was on my priority list. And if it affects powerful people and donors of Trump, I don’t care. So people need to be a little bit more objective about this whole farce that we are living around us. Everybody’s compromised from A to Z. And there is a level of compromise in each one of the people who are in charge of other people. Otherwise, they will probably not let them.

You know, you will you will not even be allowed to vote. If that was really something that will change drastically the situation. You understand what I mean here? Yeah, it’s sad, but we have to be honest, you know. And so I, you know, I always try to bring. I mean, Charlie Kirk was somebody who was bringing change in the universities. Now, since the end of the 60s, as I also explained in my book, the universities have been plagiarized and have gradually become recruiting centers for this leftist ideology. And that’s it. You can’t have anything else on campus.

When I arrived here in 2019, I want to say, which university by the University of Northern California, very big university. There were some guys who invited me there to do a speech. I was organizing myself. I was looking forward to it. After a month, they came back to me and they said, we don’t have the security. We can’t risk. We have too much criticism on campus to have you on. And so it was canceled. Charlie was trying to do something really positive with this Prove Me Wrong tour, the fact that you can finally bring a dialogue.

But it seems that unfortunately the right, the conservative faction wants to dialogue. The other part doesn’t want to dialogue. They have their mindset. You know, Zagam is a fascist. Trump is a fascist. The other guy’s a Nazi. The other, you know, Elon Musk is a Nazi. The guy is doing there. Everybody’s an extremist, and they are the great ones. It’s insane. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense. We are honoring today, I think, with this show also the memory of Charlie Kirk, by really being honest about everything, about the fact that, you know, everybody now, even Israel, with Netanyahu, wants a piece of Charlie’s legacy.

But we know that Israel is compromised because the very foundation of Israel was compromised. And it’s not me saying it, but the people who studied, like Rabbi Anterman, the late Rabbi Anterman, who was the guy who excommunicated Henry Kissinger and explained the dangers of the Sabbathian Frankists in the modern era. And at the same time, we have the Jesuits, we have Pope Leo, who is a pope, who is supposed to be Christian. And in reality, he didn’t really say much about what happened in that Catholic school with that transgender. That transgender thing wasn’t mentioned in. He simply mentioned the fact there were two children who died.

And of course, everything is to blame on the guns. The guns, the guns, the guns. The Second Amendment is to blame for all the problems of the United States of America. When we know, and this is something that I wrote also in volume 11, that since the 1950s, parallel to MKUltra, we had the birth of, of all those antidepressants that are also a big problem today for the youth. And Charlie Kirk was really a guy who was bringing the natural, the conservative values back to people who are really confused who, when they get some, you know, if, if, if in California a child is confused about this sexual identity, is playing with a doll instead.

And soldiers at 8 or 9 years old, they would basically castrate him and made it and make him change his sex without even the consent of his parents. Crazy. And this is something that Charlie Kirk was against. Of course, Charlie Kirk debated Newsom. He debated him on that idiotic podcast that Newsom has created. But Charlie Kirk wrote very clearly that Newsom should apologize for failing to deport illegals from California, creating all this decline in the cities that are looking worse and worse each day. Apologize for bankrupting this state of California. This is what Charlie Keck said, not me.

Charlie Keck said that Newsom should apologize for allowing men in girls locker room and sports. Charlie Kerr says that Newsom should have apologized to those who lost their homes in Los Angeles fires. Because nowadays that situation has not really been solved in any way, shape or form. And Charlie Kirk also said that Newsom should apologize for refusing to address the housing crisis in California, which is one of the worst in decades. And of course, Charlie Kirk asked Newsom to apologize for ruining this great and beautiful state, the great state of California. Will the Californians realize this? Probably not.

Probably not. Because here the Mexicans are taking over the show. Because if we see the Baptists or whatever, Methodist church with the black preachers condemning a guy who is being killed, even if that happens in other states. But here in California, there is unfortunately a bunch of people who think that maybe Newsom can be the solution when Newsom in reality has ruined the state. And if he becomes president of the United States, God forbids in the future he will completely ruin the whole of the United States. And so we are. When I saw what was happening in Los Angeles during the riots and stuff that happened recently because of ice, who were the activists who were fomenting them? Jesuits, people in this book.

People who have created basically this very clever way of manipulating the immigrant. They have their own NGOs, they bring them here. Then they of course work for the gangs. And then once they are, they are finished their career in the gangs. They clean them up with a project so they can be then put back into society as respectable citizens. Even the worst scumbags who has killed 20 or 30 people, who has brought drugs and done the worst crimes. The Jesuits have created an organization in Los Angeles that serves as a filter to reinject these people in our society.

This is. This is sick. The whole thing is sick. And of course, I mean, I think that is pretty clear here. You know, when I see the phrase bella chao, I see what I escaped in Europe. Europe at the moment is a hellhole, is a place that doesn’t have any future. It’s, you know, kind of like is in between America, China, Russia. What we’re going to do with this Europe union, you know, you have Ursula von der Leyen, whose father was a Nazi apologist, who worked for the European communities. The father of Ursula von der Leyen was a guy who used every moment he could.

And you can go and find this information. It’s not secret information. Just go on the Wikipedia. He was a Nazi apologist. He actually said that they did great things. So it’s insane how the Fourth Reich. You remember I talked about the Fourth Reich in volume seven of my confessions because it’s all connected with Klaus Schwab, with the Great Reset, with Davos, with the Bilderberg Club. I explained in this book, volume 12, as you know, how the Bilderberg Club was created after the war by a Jesuit disciple who was also Sabbathian Francis, who went to Rome to become a Jesuit, but didn’t feel he wanted to go further in taking the Jesuit bow.

So he took directly what I call the fifth bow. And people of the fifth vow are people like Governor Newsom. Where did Newsom go to school? The Jesuits. Wow. And people like Nancy Pelosi, who they worked for facilitating the deal between the Vatican and China. The Jesuits, he worked for the Jesuit, Nancy Pelosi. So, I mean, it’s like the Jesuits are known to have three vows and a fourth vow of complete obedience to the Pope. Then you have people outside of the order who take the fifth vow. They are like the secret agents of the Jesuits from who don’t formally belong to the order, but belong to the order in a secret way, like, for example, Governor Newsom.

And so the fact how you identify a possible candidate to a fifth vow of the Jesuits? Well, it’s very simple. Usually they are former seminarians. They have gone to a Jesuit school. We know that the Jesuits have a lot of influence in the school system here in California. They told me, and this is not me who said it by Professor Amamoto, who I often go to. I don’t know if you know him. I Often go to his show as a guest. And he was a professor here for many years in Southern California. Tommy Leo, it’s not only the Jesuit universities, you know, like Georgetown, whatever.

You. The one for them, the ones you know here in California, they control every single university. So when you tell me, and you said that a few moments ago at the beginning of this interview, we have a problem with the education in the university. Who do you think is educating them this way? Jesuits. They are the ones who are pushing all this perversion, all this sick ideology, and they are the ones who should be stopped, but nobody’s gonna stop them because they’re way too powerful. Because the only way to stop them would be, like I suggested in my latest book, if we simply, you know, we declared them a bunch of terrorists, kick them out of the.

Of the United States. And like it happened in the. Because this happened in the 1770s and 1760s and 1750s. At the time, the Portuguese and Spanish empires, which, as you know, at the time were very powerful, identified the problem in the Jesuit order. So at the end, they started to expel them from their countries, even from South America, where they were very powerful. And at the end, they went to the Pope and said, either you expel them or we’re going to give up on Catholicism altogether. So the pope was forced to make an official document kicking them out of the Vatican.

And they were kicked out of the Vatican until they came back only a few decades later. Did they get weaker? No, unfortunately not. They became even stronger because they got kicked out of the Vatican, and then they went under the protection of the empress of Russia. They actually stayed in certain territories which were, like, now the territories that you find like Poland, Lithuania, and these territories. The. The Jesuit presence was still very strong. The Russians basically protected them, even if they were Orthodox. They didn’t care about the empress, simply said, okay, you give me a nomination for the general, and I make a general Russian, and I’m happy with that.

And so she was happy with the general of the Jesuits, who was a Russian. And so that’s was also. But the interesting thing about all this is that most of the problems of today’s world emanate from a specific area of the world. Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, and that part of Russia, because that was all Russia back in the days, apart from those areas. Very important historically, Michael. And they’re very important historically because, of course, Jacob Franco was born in Ukraine. Madame Blavatsky was born in Ukraine. They will not exist today. Modern Satanism without those areas in which we have this really sick, kind of twisted Jesuits, Sabatian Frankists and all those mixed in together.

Where do you think that Jeffrey Epstein comes from? Where do you think that Gillian Max come from? Where do you think all these people come from? It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s. Unfortunately, one doesn’t want to be racist, but then you have to understand why is all coming from this area. What’s happening there. That is so why we have Zelensky, who is a guy who is born talking Russian, who now talks Ukraine and wages war against Russia and wants to bankrupt the whole of the world because Europe going after him is going to become bankrupt. But at the same time, Europe might use Ukraine as a solution.

Like I said in regards to Great Britain, Great Britain in the United Kingdom has a big problem. But the moment in which the problem is going to get to level now, for example, after Tommy Robinson’s success on Saturday, the level might be at, I don’t know, 8, but let it become 10 that the Tommy Robinson aficionados start rioting across England. Well, the prime minister with the king is here to announce you that we are in war with Russia. And we will have to send all of you to war and back to the trenches, because every time there is a problem, we have a war for you.

Just to send out all the. Yeah, it seems to work. They send. You send us to war. Yeah, a lot. We saw, like, not just in the UK but we saw in France, we saw in Australia, New Zealand, even South Korea. We saw, you know, pretty much pushback against the system. Do you think this is going to gather speed or do you think it’s. They’re just gonna. Well, I mean. I mean, when you see, for example, the South Koreans are saying, we are Charlie K. When you see the South Koreans rebelling against the leftists of South Korea, or we see, for example, more and more influence from North Korea into South Korea, and the Americans start to lose their influence in a place where, you know, strategically they have their basis.

And it’s very important. Well, in that case, I’m sure that Kim Jong Un. Hi, Kim. Can you please shoot a couple of those missiles to create a little bit of tension? I mean, if Kim Jong Un and the family of Kim Jong Un, the father, the grandfather and the whole dynasty has been kept there in that strategic position after a war which saw the death of many Americans in Korean and the sacrifice of many Americans, it is because nowadays it is strategically important to have him as a cushion between Russia, China. Russia and China are, of course, the Great Players also in this game.

So I think that we are always in a new world order that is, you know, manifesting now with maybe new players, but it’s always a, an order. And so if we’re going from America to the Sino Russian New world order because when people, for example the Chinese a few weeks ago said in Beijing we want a multipolar world order, that’s bs. Come on. The Chinese multipolar is not a multipolar. It’s a Chinese led new world order together with Russia and it’s a Sino Russian world order. All those people, you know, the fact that they promoted as a multipolar world order, saying oh, America is not the one that can lead this new world order anymore.

We have to have a multipolar. Do you believe in that, Michael? Do you believe. I mean the Chinese are building the army of the Antichrist as we speak. They are building an army of robots in each of the Chinese households where cyber Satan. And you know, I wrote three books that including volume nine, but also volume seven and volume six on the subject of cybercity. Now we are going, regardless of, of what is happening now, the biggest transformation for mankind is to do with artificial intelligence and robotics. Now this guy, for example here in this article I showed how the Italians, the Italian prime minister got upset because imagine they tell two university organization in Italy have posted something against Charlie Keck after he died saying minus one and saying for those who know because they are brainwashed.

But this brainwashing, this programming of this new woke transsexuals assassins or brainwashed by transaction. Are we sure that all this is not really directed by the AI you know, they talk about, oh, we have to investigate now. Discord, this, that and all the other. But how easy is today for chat gpt4 to program an assassin? Because we have evidence that chatgpt4 has led to the death of people. But maybe people like this Tyler Robinson were brainwashed online by bots because we don’t know how realistic some, you know, you are talking with somebody on Discord or you’re talking to somebody online, but is he a bot or is he a real person? And so all this in regards to the ideology, of course, the sick ideology, the element of Bella sticking with that sick ideology is the German Mauser, which was a World War I, World War II, German Nazi weapon.

So, you know, they’re sticking to that narrative. Absolutely, it goes very well with that narrative. No, it’s a precision gun that, you know, in this case was used to diabolical effect. I mean one Single. And the guy was definitely very disciplined in the way he operated. But why he was so disciplined? Because now we see he was, you know, somebody who was playing day and night with games that basically video games that are programming these assassins. Because the moment in which you become a good fighter on one of these video games and you are ready, then they come inside, you know, one of those chat rooms on Discord, and they say, ah, yes, you should do it.

Yes, go for it. And also catch a fascist. And write down also Bella Chow. And write down also something because of the transgender. So this, you know, we know that both Pete Hex and Trump have been very much against the presence of transsexual transgenders, drag queens within the military. And this is happened recently. It didn’t happen a year ago. It happened in the last month, if you go and see the timeline. And then suddenly we have Charlie Kirk being killed after a question that regards the trans mass shooters. So it is, of course, now at the moment.

Of course, it is a moment in which everything is being investigated. But it seems like for the terrorism of the future, we will have on one side the Muslims. The Muslims, like the ones who yesterday put free bombs under a ban of Fox News. Ah, I didn’t know that. Fortunately, it didn’t work. The bombs didn’t work. It would have been a real tragedy. But this. And, and, and, and we go and see today on the news, almost nothing about it. Yeah, Nothing about the fact that these are Muslims. So you have, you know, so it sounds like the Jesuits are controlling the media.

Like, like you’ve said, they control everything. So that’s funny. Absolutely. But the interesting thing here is that they are choosing categories that are almost untouchable. I mean, me and you can’t talk badly about the transgender or the Islamic category because we are talking about minorities which are overly protected. Right. So we have to be very careful how we mention them, otherwise they come and they say, Michael Jekyll hate speech or Leo Zagami hate speech. Yeah. And so you see that this is kind of very frightening that. Because in the future the censorship might grow even more and become, you know, like we saw what happened during the pandemic today after the election of Donald J.

Trump. We are capable of talking freely. The algorithms are not present anymore. So we can talk freely about the vaccines, we can talk freely about the reason for this pandemic, the origins of it. And you will not be notified by the algorithm at the end of your show with a warning or your video being removed. But this might happen for other things. So we are always in that kind of position and it’s very sad that, that we are in in a position like this that we have to fear of being deplatformed. The fear of being censored and losing.

Also a way for us to. To make our living. Yeah. So this is Pambandi. There’s free speech and then there’s hate speech. We will absolutely go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech. And then you have Charlie Kirk posted. This was back in 52 24. Hate speech does not exist legally in America. There’s ugly speech, there’s gross speech, there’s evil speech, and all of it is protected by the first Amendment. Keep America free. I want to share with you an article also in regards to what I said earlier. I’m gonna put it on your thing so you can share it from my.

This is what happened yesterday or the day before actually. Underuta news media vehicle. That was Fox near campus where Charlie Kirk was assassinated and nobody’s talking about it. Wow. And the guys are Muslims. So another one of the LGBTQ plus. No, you said it early in the stuff in show and I thought it was very perfect. I never heard you say that, but it really resonated with me. And you said that they take these extremist groups like this because they’re easily controllable. I was like, nailed it. Yeah, no, it is. You know, and plus it doesn’t matter if these groups ideologically are at the opposites because in the end we have seen how paradoxical the situation is when you have people marching at the pride with Gaza talking about free Palestine, when we know that in the Muslim world they don’t accept the LGBTQ in any shape or form and that.

So it doesn’t really make any sense logically. Doesn’t make any sense. But these minorities, because like I said a moment ago, they are overly protected, they become the ideal candidates for becoming the mercenaries of the new World order. They are untouchable. Yep. You can’t criticize them that way. They can infiltrate. That’s good. Yeah. So. So we are in a very best place at the moment as conservatives, as people who are God fearing people who want to actually continue to raise their families in a traditional way. Because in one, in one way we see that we have like the Muslims who are only accepting their own as, you know, the traditionals of the situation.

But on the other side you have these guys with this woke extremist ideology who are basically pushing all this, the gender transitioning people from when they’re kids. And also the fact that they can adopt children. These people can adopt children. Let’s not forget that there is transgenders that can adopt children. Children will grow up mentally confused, to say the least. It becomes. You know, it becomes really confusing then for. For a child who is growing. And on top of this, the next level of. Because, you know, the transgender thing is leading somewhere else. And I explained this in my book.

It’s leading towards transhumanism. Transhumanism, meaning that soon people will start transforming their bodies, adding elements that are exterior, and then we will have a transformation of the human being in something completely different. You will be integrating the machine, and then you will have the robot brothels. You will have the cyber prostitution. That is completely another level of insanity in which you have, you know, people who would be drawn to go with the robots or with the transhumans who are kind of like a mix of. Because let’s not forget another detail in this whole channel. Westworld, a movie and series.

Yeah. No, but let’s not forget this guy who was with Tyler Robinson. He’s not only a transgender. It’s a fury fairy transgender. Somebody who dresses up as an animal. Oh, Jesus. Oh, God. That’s. Yeah, that’s the plus side, I guess. Huh? Wow. That is very plus. Yes. Now we are going into uncharted territory because. Wow. Dressing up as animal. Next level. Keep going. Let’s see how far we go with this. Yeah, it’s crazy. Yeah. And then, you know, you’re gonna start inserting elements in your body that are external, and people are gonna start transforming themselves in these animals.

I’m really sorry for the people that come after us in the year 2060. They must probably. They go around in. In the major cities, and there is people, monsters going around, things that we can’t call human beings. But beware of not calling them human beings, because they are a minority, protected, and you will lose everything you ever have if you even mention them. Oh, you’re racist. The guy’s a fairy. He’s dressing up. He’s half. I don’t know what. And he’s a transhuman, and he has, you know, maybe a head with a thing coming out like that and another thing coming out like, you have to accept it in the name of inclusivity.

And so, I mean, at the end, it’s like this society. Maybe Major Tara Green today wasn’t so wrong when she said that we should go for a peaceful divorce in our national discourse. Meaning that at one point, if we see that, you know, There is half of the population who wants to continue experimenting and going towards hell and the abyss of hell. Well, let them go there and we might retain what is left of our, you know, lives in a different context by living in a separate state. Because then that’s the problem here. The union for these people is becoming a problem.

Either they want to take us over and force us into their sick belief system where anything goes, but are we capable of resisting? Now? I think that the good thing, the only good thing that came out of Charlie Kirk’s sacrifice, because he’s indeed a martyr of the cause. He said that he has planted the seeds of transformation within the young people. The young people that finally say, we had enough with all these monstrosities. We want to go back to some normal. I don’t even say conservative. I’m just saying common sense. Totally. Because it’s not a question of conservative.

I mean, it’s called common sense. Yes. Human beings. Yes, as human beings. So. So I think that that is the positive thing that Charlie did, that they will always be remembered for. I’m very sad that I didn’t go this year. I was invited at Turning Point USA and friends from mutual friends of Charlie wanted me there and they were really eager to have me there next year. And to meet Charlie, I didn’t manage, I didn’t have this great possibility and honor because he, he definitely was a person that we should honor with all our respect. Also in future, in, in the future, not only now, when it’s, you know, just happened and everybody’s talking about it.

Yeah, because everyone that came up to speak, he honored them. You know, he, he didn’t. Yeah, down or didn’t yell at him or you know, the guys who actually wrong. He just like, you know, talk common sense to them. You know, the guys who want people, once they got common sense, they stumble. They couldn’t, couldn’t speak anymore. It was, it was great. You say it. But the crazy thing about, you know, I mean, I did maybe one conference in Arizona and these friends of Charlie came there and they were not white supremacist guys, they were actually Mexican who Charlie really treated as equals.

And they said, we never saw any racism from Charlie Kirk. Never with blacks, with Mexicans, with anybody. So you know, when you are creating this demonic fake reality of, you know, he was a white racist supremacist, this, that and all the other, it’s, it’s just unacceptable. This is unacceptable for his memory. And we have seen also what happened with that 19 year old who had the Same T shirt as Tyler Robinson, who went and trashed the memorial in front of Turning Point usa. And one wonders if this T shirt has. Is part of a network here.

Yeah, definitely. I believe it is. And, and, and, and, and, and what about all these transgenders who are behind it, who apparently had previous knowledge in chat rooms on the Internet? And, And I mean, it is like, you know, I mean, is maybe too early to say that we can talk about a transgender terrorist cell, but it’s very highly suspicious, and we have to pray that some sanity comes out of all this insanity, because Charlie was a guy who went into the university and dialogue with these people. He wasn’t going there with a gun pointed at these people saying, you are different and you are sick in your head.

He was actually challenged them intellectually, asking them, why do you do it? Critical thinking. Yeah. You know, saying, I remember one thing he said that stuck to me once. He was in a university. I remember seeing the video. He said, one transgender went to him, and. And he said, but do you think if I wear a sombrero and I talk with a Mexican accent, I would become Mexican? Well, dressing up as a woman doesn’t make you a woman. I thought, you know, the way also, he. He brought a little bit of sense of humor into the discourse.

It wasn’t so heavy. It wasn’t. So, yeah, it’s gonna be very difficult, I think, for me to find maybe a successor to his legacy. I mean, who would want to step up? I mean, looks like they’re gonna, like, just start taking people out now. So that’s. That’s kind of a. A big threat. A lot of. A lot of people have, you know, ourselves. Absolutely. It’s a big threat, is a big risk. And I tell you this from my own experience when I was, let’s say, politically exposed in Italy. I mean, it is a danger for you, for your family.

And in the end, I was forced into leaving Italy, as you know, because, I mean, I didn’t want my family, my wife, or my family back in Italy to be further exposed to these threats. So in the end, it’s a very courageous thing to do. But at the same time, you can do it if you have the possibility of employing your own security detail, which is a lot of money. Yes. When I went to the Italian police and I said I had received threats from Mafiosi because of what I wrote in my books about the connections between the mafia, the Ndrangheta mafia, especially in Calabria, and the Vatican and Freemasons, and of course, they were Threatening me.

You know, they were, I, I exposed even mafiosis who were in Masonic lodges. Well, at that point, when the police told me they couldn’t give me protection, and these are people who I knew in the police, you know. Yeah. And they said, leo, but we can’t give you protection. Well, I said, okay, fine. And I have to leave. It’s not. I can’t afford a security detail 24 hours a day. It’s a very expensive thing. And I, I’m sure that now nowadays is gonna be also influencing the political discourse because if you candidate yourself to go to Congress and now you, and you do it with the wrong party, which is basically the Republican Party in the eyes of these people, you will have to be protected.

I mean, I’m very worried for Major Taylor Greene at the moment. I think that amongst all the politicians that they are at the moment, she is the more exposed. And I tell you also why, because she’s been very open about Epstein case and about supporting the girls who went there in front of, who went to talk to Congress and stuff. She was very, you know, very adamant that she will take no, you know, no criticism even from her own party or from the president who she knows. She was just. So I’m a little bit scared for Major Tail again because she needs to have a 24 hour security protection detail that can protect it for sure.

Definitely. So let’s see what happens. I mean, I mean, Charlie Kirk had a protective detail that didn’t work out so good. So it didn’t work out. And I, I tell you one finger that I was very surprised now when I collaborated and I was present here in Coachella with Trump for his speech. He did. It was over a hundred thousand people that happened after the, the assassination attempts of, the assassination attempt of Battle Pennsylvania. And they had this chord up in the air for like 150 meters with a special drone with four cameras. It was. So it was a drone that was not moving because it was anchored to the, to the ground.

And I was surprised that the security detail like the one of Charlie Kirk didn’t have any drones because with the drone you could have got that guy immediately. Well, it looked like somebody showed a picture. It looked like there was a drone. But I’ve been to some of these events, security and so forth, and they actually put out an EMP electromagnetic pulse so that drones can fly over certain area. Yeah, but that about the one you’re talking about was wired. Was wired. It had, it could do that. Yes, they’ll, they’ll put up an EMP cordon around events.

So we did that when I did concert work, concerts and so forth, outdoor concerts. Yeah. But nowadays, of course, with this kind of technology of disposal, the fact that the guy, after what happened in battle, Pennsylvania can go and stand there in the same way and shoot at somebody, I mean, in the same. Almost identical, you know, I mean, if Trump just didn’t turn around, he will have been got in the neck in the same way, you know. So, I mean, it’s. It’s. I think it’s probably traumatic for Trump himself. But then we have to understand here, Charlie Kirk’s death, is it a death that has served the purpose for the system? And that is.

That is a very sad realization when you see that at the moment has kind of completely changed the. The discourse at a national level. Sure. And. And then also, we need to understand where we want to go from here. I mean, as a, as a nation, if this, this battle of words, of the Internet. The Internet, definitely, the social networks have amplified the people’s thoughts. This is the first time in human history that we have this kind of thing happening. We have basically everybody with a platform today to say basically whatever they want. And so it creates, though, within the families, even people, you know, like, for example, we have so many families that have been broken down by this situation.

Like people not invited for Thanksgiving because they support Donald G. Trump or, you know, and other people maybe for other reasons. You know, everything becomes definitely amplified. It’s not anymore what the. The kind of world we used to live in. But at the moment, I think that a civil war is still not realistic, though there is a lot of talk. There is a lot of talk of it. Polymarket gives the civil war only 3%, which is not a very high percentage. And we know the poly market always gets it. They got it for the Trump presidency.

They got it 99 of the time, I would say. So 3% still means that we can be a little bit tranquil. However, it’s true that we are heading into that direction and that, you know, it’s. It’s like we see Charlie Kirk as a turning point. He actually, you know, the name he gave to his organization. Right. Perfect. Yeah. Really reflects now what is happening. But the problem is here, either we go towards what Charlie wanted, which is the dialogue of the opposites, something that every university should have, because universities have always been, since the beginning, places where people were encouraged to give their own ideas and dialogue with others who have different ideas.

But when universities, under the present Jesuit mafia, which I denounced in volume 12 only want you to embrace one ideology. It becomes very difficult then to. And so I think that the 36,000 requests for new chapters for Turning Point, the fact that the young people we have seen in the last few days praying for Charlie being more involved in politics in a positive way, maybe his sacrifice somehow will be leading to something positive for the newer generation. I hope that. Michael, I don’t know how you view it. Oh, yeah, definitely. I think it’s a good. There’s, there’s.

And this is a great way, you know, to end this on a positive note. That, yes, we can, you know, see this in a positive life because it is moving in a positive light. All the demonstrations we’ve seen around the world, you know, all the new chapters that are being requested to be opened, so the dialogue is going to start to move in a better direction, I think. I think we’re going to see some good things from this. Absolutely. It’s sad, though, that, for example, the mayor of LA has refused to. To fly the flags half staff.

Yeah, same thing in New Jersey, New York, they refuse to fly half staff, too. And, and, and who are these people? They are Jesuit products. They are Communist Marxists. They are people who have this, this sick ideology in their minds. And so we have, like I said, positive things coming out of it. But I think it’s for the young people who are not so brainwashed, who haven’t had, like, decades of this brainwashing to maybe change things and follow the. The dialogue and the example of Charlie Kerr. Yeah. So thank you so much for having me on, because I think that today our conversation has brought people to the realization that we still have to find common ground, even with the people who don’t think in the same way.

I mean, I know that the democratic party of 30 or 40 years ago is not the Democratic Party of today. I know that the people, though, who have transformed that Democratic Party are those people who unfortunately, were the extremist from the end of the 1960s onwards, from the Black Panthers to the Marxist of the worst kind. For the people who, of course, embraced Bella Chow, who we today discussed at the opening of the show, this song that they claim was used to. To sing against fascism in Italy and oppose Benido Mussolini. Complete artificial construct, complete lies.

But that’s what often happens in this situation. The truth in a war, even in a war of words, seems to be the first victim of the whole discourse. So let’s bring back the truth, the facts in all this. That’s the main way we can honor Charlie. Thank you so much, guys. God bless you all and God bless your great work. Michael, you too. And Leo Zagami.com everyone to check out his incredible books and his information. This was just a little piece of it. So definitely go over there and check that out. Thanks a lot, Leo. Thank you.
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