Last Minute! Sheriff Scott Jenkins Discusses Trumps Pardon w/CSPOA Posse – Full Episode

➡ This is a summary of a webinar hosted by CSPOA.org, featuring Jack Mullen and Sam Bushman, with special guest Sheriff Scott Jenkins. They discuss Jenkins’ experiences and the support he received. The organization, funded by donations, plans to expand its activities, including seminars and meetings. They also promote their store and encourage donations. The discussion also covers the importance of investing in gold and silver due to the declining value of the dollar. Sheriff Scott Jenkins shares his story of being in law enforcement since he was 18 and his recent legal troubles.
➡ Scott Jenkins, who was going through a tough time, credits his faith, family, and several influential figures, including Donald Trump, for his freedom. He believes that despite the challenges he faced, God was with him throughout his journey. He also expresses gratitude towards those who helped him, including Ed Martin, General Flynn, and Roger Stone. Jenkins, a former law enforcement officer, hopes for a better future where respect for federal agencies is restored and good people are able to make positive changes.
➡ The speaker is asking listeners to share the correct story about Mr. Jenkins and reminding them that their organization relies on donations. They encourage people to donate, even small amounts, and mention that there are benefits for those who do so. They express gratitude and sign off until next week.
➡ The text discusses the role of sheriffs in maintaining law and order, especially during times of civil unrest. It highlights how sheriffs, unlike city police chiefs, are directly accountable to the people who elected them, and therefore, are more likely to enforce laws in a way that aligns with the community’s expectations. The text also emphasizes the importance of protecting citizens’ rights, including First and Second Amendment rights. Lastly, it mentions the support received from the CSPOA and Sheriff Mack during a legal battle, emphasizing the importance of solidarity and support within the law enforcement community.
➡ The speaker expresses gratitude for the support received during a legal appeal, attributing the positive outcome to both divine intervention and the efforts of individuals like Sheriff Mack. The speaker also discusses their unwavering support for President Trump and their belief in standing up for liberty. They mention the challenges of being a public figure, balancing the need for self-promotion with a desire for privacy. The speaker ends by discussing the media’s role in their case, criticizing the lack of original research and the repetition of misinformation.
➡ The speaker shares his experience of receiving a call from the president, who took the time to listen and engage with him and his family. He expresses gratitude for this interaction and his faith in God. He also discusses his role as a sheriff, the power and discretion it holds, and his frustration with the legal system that he believes has falsely accused and sentenced him. He hopes for change in the justice system, where he feels the innocent are punished while the guilty go free.
➡ The speaker discusses their experiences with law enforcement, expressing frustration with perceived injustices and lack of accountability. They mention being questioned and accused of taking bribes, but insist they are innocent and have been transparent. They also criticize the quality of FBI recording equipment and the overwhelming amount of information they had to sift through for their court case. The speaker calls for more transparency, adherence to the law, and accountability within law enforcement agencies.
➡ The speaker discusses his experiences with law enforcement and politics, including his involvement in a controversial operation related to Hunter Biden’s laptop. He also mentions his work with border sheriffs and his opposition to Governor Northam’s gun ban bill. The speaker suggests that his actions have made him a target of the Biden administration and other political forces. He also mentions the struggles of other sheriffs, like Chuck Jenkins, who have faced legal challenges due to their actions and beliefs.
➡ The sheriff in this text believes in the power of his position and the importance of upholding citizens’ rights, especially regarding gun laws. He argues that as an elected official, he has the authority to implement his platform and make decisions that he believes are in the best interest of the people. He also emphasizes his ability to swear in deputies as needed, and his willingness to stand against laws he views as unconstitutional. He believes that sheriffs have a crucial role in law enforcement and should use their power to protect citizens’ rights.
➡ The speaker discusses the importance of strong leadership in the country, particularly at the state and local levels. They express concern about the diminishing power of sheriffs and the negative impact of budget cuts on their independence. The speaker also emphasizes the need for leaders to uphold the constitution and protect citizens’ rights. They end by encouraging continued resistance and action, even in the face of adversity.
➡ The speaker, a former sheriff, expresses gratitude for the support he received during a difficult time, particularly from President Trump and others. He is currently taking a break to recover with his family, but remains committed to supporting those who helped him. He also encourages support for Sheriff Mack’s work in educating and strengthening other sheriffs. Despite his own financial struggles, he insists he’s not asking for donations, but rather wants to share his story to prevent others from experiencing similar hardships.

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of the CSPOA.org’s posse webinar, the weekly Wednesday webinar, as I like to call it. And I’m Jack Mullen, of course today along with Sam Bushman, the CEO of the CSPOA and our special guest and happy guy, Sheriff Scott Jenkins. Today we’re going to be talking about what this man has gone through and how he made it and how the elements of the universe came to bear and made it possible for him to not suffer needless loss of his life. And so we’re happy to hear about that. Before I get that started, I want to remind everybody about a couple of things.

One is that this organization is entirely supported by donations and as I say, every single time, every penny counts. Sheriff Mack is not with us today. He’s out with his wife and enjoying a little rest on their 50th anniversary. And 50 years, Jack. Yeah, 50 years. A long time. And that’s a double congratulations, isn’t it? Yep, it is. And he’s expecting us to speak good thoughts for him to Scott Jenkins. At the same time though, he wants me to raise a little money because when he comes back he wants to hit the ground running. He’s got plans to go to Washington state.

He’s got plans to set up individual type of seminars and meetings for people that can be purchased and then people can go online and watch it. That includes sheriffs, et cetera. So he’s got a big roadmap lined out for us for the remainder of this year. And we’re here on Operation Execute, sir. Yes. Excellent. And so we want to impress them. Remember cspoa.org donate if you got a few pennies you want to throw away a buck or two, $10 100,000 and we’ll accept those 10,000 and above donations graciously. Also we have a store, csba.org and in the store you’ll find lots of things, Sheriff Mac’s books of course, and you’ll find other materials, written materials.

You’ll find T shirts and shirts and bags and just things that have CSBA on it, including pins and little badges and other goodies. Be that we have a wellness type center with health related supplies through Dr. Group’s Global Healing. We also have storable foods where you can stock up on supplies as needed because as we all know, sooner or later the supply chain for food is going to dwindle to where the prices go higher and higher and the supply goes down, down, down. So get yourself if you haven’t already well stocked up with supplyable foods. I also want to mention that we have a lot of videos up at the time.

And if you are in promoting CSBOA to your friends, family, etc. A good place to do it is by, you know, going to the site, picking up a video, meaning you copy the link and send it to them. Right now we have an article up on a video with Sheriff Mack and it’s entitled Sheriff Mack Blames Trump TDS for Democrats Defending Human Traffickers Just despite President Trump Trump Derangement Syndrome. We also have a CSPOA Posse short intel short video which is about Sheriff Mack talking about a variety of topics. So it’s a good place to go and pick up a lot of info about the posse, what we’re about, what Sheriff Mac’s up to.

We have a an article up there that Sam created called the Patriot act is grossly Unconstitutional. He did a very nice job putting together a YouTube video talking about the Patriot act and why it has to go. And, and we thank you for that, Sam. We also have. There’s a great video up there on the website too. It’s only about a minute long. It’s really a kind of a commercial thing. It’s 48 seconds long, highlighting the value of the CSPOA and what we’re accomplishing and doing. And the reason that I bring that up is because people could download that.

If they’re a podcaster or they have a radio station in their area they’re involved in, they can download that and either play it like it is, or you can add a little liner to it or a little promo from a host or from somebody, or you can basically add your chapter, cspoa, state chapter, little promo to it, and then you can basically promote that everywhere as well. It’s free and we have a great copyright on it. You have the right to copy. Please do so. That’s available as well. Beautiful. I also have an article up on the destruction of the US dollar and why it’s important right now to get into gold and silver.

And it’s not just to sell gold and silver. We’re not in the business of trying to convince you to buy gold and silver. We’re in the business of trying to protect you from what’s coming and what’s coming and is happening right in front of your face. And with the implementation of the new big beautiful bill, it’s going to get worse as it adds another $5 trillion of debt to a system that’s already collapsing with debt. So I Recommend, I think Sam does, Sheriff Mack, that if you want to preserve. They’re calling it the big beautiful bust.

Yes, that’s exactly what it is, a big beautiful bankruptcy. And that’s what they’re planning for. And listen, if you’re not out in front of this, you’re going to be caught at the tail end of something that’s not nice at all. So we recommend gold and silver not as an investment, although silver would be a great investment. Gold itself is just used as it historically been used as a means to preserve your wealth. If you put a dollar into gold today, that amount of gold later will buy the same amount of things that it did today at a dollar.

Can’t say that. About a dollar a week from now, the dollar won’t buy as much meat as it bought last week and so on and so forth. The dollar is being destroyed deliberately. The end result of this is not unknown. We know they’re going to try to push us into a central bank, digital currency loss of privacy with fiat money and our current dollar system. We know they’re not trying to save the dollar or they’d be raising interest rates and cutting spending. They’re not doing that. They’re doing the opposite on both of them. So we recommend that you take a look at that article.

And they’re on there. They’re written by me basically, but I use a pen name called the Silver Savior. And I use that because silver is a fantastic bargain right now. It’s super undervalued right now. 100 ounces of silver will buy an ounce of gold. That is a super high amount of silver. Historically it runs between 16 and 50. Sometimes it’s been down as low as one to one depending on how bad the situation in the economy. Economy has been. So those are the things we want you to take advantage of. And if you would buy your silver and gold through the CSP way, look for the Chuck Norris ad on the site that will help out the CSPOA.

The prices are not marked up $1. So you’ll pay the same price. But the CSPOA will get a little something from Gold Co, the company that represents our gold and silver company. And they’ll pay it to us. So anyway, here we are today, another fantastic day. Wednesday. Almost another month down the drain. And it wasn’t but several months ago we were sitting here. I say it’s another month of a life well lived. Jack. That’s it. Yep. I say it’s going so fast that I just get down the drain, you know. Well, And Scott, Sheriff Scott Jenkins with us.

And he has many months of well lived life ahead of him thanks to a bunch of hard work from a bunch of people. Let’s get into it. Sheriff Scott Jenkins, let’s share your story with people. So you’ve been in law enforcement literally since you’ve been 18 years old, right? Yes sir, 34 years until I left it. And in that time you served in all kinds of different capacities? Sheriff since 2012. Now you’re a former sheriff. In my opinion they kind of committed election fraud by lying about you. And now you’re not the sheriff. But let’s talk about your story.

They basically manipulated the data. They hired a couple of FBI agents to become agent provocateur thugs and they literally manipulated things against you, took it all to court, eventually convicted you. Tragic situation, not real or true in terms of the real sense of due process and law and order and a speedy trial and all those things. They played games with it all. Sheriff Scott Jenkins was not allowed to submit a lot of his stuff to evidence that was needed, et cetera, for his acquittal. But yet it went bad. But then we worked with President Donald J.

Trump, several of us did. I was behind the scenes, I’m far back, I’m a nobody. But I helped with some articles and different things and called a few friends and Sheriff Mack did the same and really there’s a few names that get credit. Sheriff Mack gets a lot of credit in my opinion. It looks like several different people. Roger Stone, General Michael Flynn, several other people. Eventually Donald Trump and ultimately God freed Scott Jenkins. It was a very turmoil ridden last Sunday for you and your family from what I hear. Tell us about that. How’d it go? And posted on.

Sorry, yes, it was an emotional roller coaster at the end there. My extended family and I had all gathered on the farm there to have prayer and just to have a conversation to support one another and kind of explain, you know, to stick together once I’m gone. I was leaving the next day to make that long drive to Indiana, 1112 hour distance. And it was a sad afternoon evening with all that, a lot of hugs and crying of course with the family members, my parents, my kids, you know, wife, everyone, an extended family, nephews, aunts, uncles, so such a hard time to get the words out and say what we all wanted needed to say to each other.

And the prayers, the prayer, well, I start there, I have to start there. God has truly been with me the two and a half year old deal from the very start. I hit very Low points and thankful to God he strengthened my family and I threw it all and ultimately worked through. And I don’t care who, you know, what your faith is is your business. But I truly, deeply believe the founding, our country on God had a hand and, you know, as far back as the founding documents getting formed and down to President Trump being in office.

And if you think that bullet on that day in public, Pennsylvania was not the hand of God saving him, I don’t know what else it takes to make you believe. But we are gifted to have him again. And through him, there was Ed Martin, who, thank God, I mean, and think about that. The irony of, and I’m not picking on any particular congressman, some people didn’t want him confirmed. That’s. But talk about irony. When he gets pulled from consideration and moved into the position of all things pardon attorney. And then, and then look at Judge Deneen getting to fill the spot.

My goodness, talk about a firecracker to pick up where he left off. I just, I just see so many things in the team that he formed. You’ve got Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, now Dan Bongino and others that, I mean, I don’t know those people personally. I’m not saying that I’ve never met Ed Martin, but I just can’t help but start with God and say that through these men and women, you know, all the way down, General Flynn and Roger Stone, my goodness, I’ll never be able to thank them enough either. All these people had a hand in getting my story told.

And for, for, you know, for Mr. Martin to, for him to vet it. I mean, they had to work. They had to do their due diligence. But, you know, they worked hard to vet everything that was put before them. To know that, you know, it wasn’t bs, that there were truly bad things done in the case and it was wrong and, and to get to the root of a lot of it, and, and I’ve said before, and I’ll say this again with other interviews as well, I have no animosity. I, I want no retribution against it.

You know, those people, you know, people crack whips at the top and it goes down. And I’m not criticizing anyone in particular. It’s just, it’s sickening, the system that, I mean, I, I served 34 years in law enforcement, and there was a time when I had the greatest respect for, you know, the federal agencies as any others, but, you know, that’s all out the window. I do believe, as a nation, it will gain that respect again if Good people are able to clean house and do what I know they’re set out to do. And I can tell you, you know, President, he called me again yesterday, you know, after he’d autographed a photo for me, pardon and things.

And he was so gracious, so kind when he talked to me again and my family, and he said, you know, they’re going to play hardball. They’re going to, they’re going to work and do, do the right thing and clean up the mess that’s there and do good things and stop the warfare and the other criminal stuff that’s going on. And I believe they’re, they’re well underway. So God bless them in that effort, what they’re doing. I’ll pray for them continually, every day for that. And if anyone’s listening, you know, any of you all involved gentlemen, anything I can ever do for you, I am forever indebted and just again, thanks to God.

So I had to get that up first. I’m sorry. I’ll be glad to tell you. Hey, man, let me ask you a couple of questions relating to this because I don’t want to toot horns. Most of these people aren’t even asking for credit without, you know, us mentioning this. You know, Ed Martin wouldn’t take any credit. Roger Stone wouldn’t take any credit. General Flynn wouldn’t take any credit. Although I’m going to give them all the credit they deserve. But I want to talk about the CSPOA’s role and Sheriff Mack’s role in this. And I know Sheriff Mack.

I’m kind of glad he’s not here because he’d basically cut me off and try to not take credit, which I understand. I mean, we’re not looking for credit, but I do want to make this very clear. So you’ve been kind of a CSPOA sheriff ever since you were sheriff in 2012 is when you first got involved with the CSPOA, right? Absolutely. I was fortunate to read his book years ago, and fortunate enough, I was allowed to become sheriff of my hometown. And immediately I was on the. Well, I had someone, you know, my staff contact him to see how soon he could come and put on a presentation for my entire office.

And, and he was gracious. I mean, so kind. He came out, he did actually two different sessions so I could get everyone working or not working to attend. And, and because I wanted them to understand, you know, really the authority, the, the power, the reasoning for things with Sheriff says that unique law enforcement official in the country, unlike any other Answer only to the electors and the platform. We either institute and do it successfully or we removed in a few years and a new person takes office. And no other, no other law enforcement executive in the country is, is like that.

You know, whether you’re the FBI director or superintendent of state police or city chief, you answer to the people that appoint you in on a body or whoever. And, and the politics is involved in that in so many ways. And yet sheriffs, you know, there’s so many things you could say about the role of a sheriff, but that ended up being what scared the Biden administration the most, was that some, basically some lowly county sheriffs could stand up and stop or nullify certain actions that are going to be taken by other agencies with laws that are put in place unconstitutionally.

Now they like to poo poo and say Sheriff Mack’s case doesn’t matter, but they know full well when you beat Bill Clinton, the Supreme Court, it set an incredible, an incredible second Amendment and due process and jurisdictional boundaries precedent like you’ve never seen before. So you worked with Sheriff Richard Mack really from the beginning of the cspoa. Tell me when he got a hold of you and how that kind of evolved of him helping you with this scenario you found yourself in. Well, Sheriff Mack, you know, we weren’t always in contact, but through the years as sheriff in my three terms, I had, I’ve been fortunate, I was very humbled.

He invited me to speak at one of his events at the college Liberty College in Lynchburg one time. I’ve flown to Texas or other locations, be at his presentations for other events. And, and Ben, you know, I’ve respected him and looked up to, you know, what he’s done for CSPOA for sheriffs in general across the country for so long, because it matters that we, I mean, unfortunately we have a lot of sheriffs, there’s only a little over 3,000. But so many of them get elected into their jobs from prior careers that had nothing to do with the sheriff’s office.

And they are just grossly ignorant of what the powers the authorities of sheriff are. And they just, they’re so busy when they hit the ground running in a new position and they may have been a trooper, they may have been a city officer or a federal officer, and they really never fully grasp the need for a sheriff to retain the authority and powers of his office and not give them away as so many states and localities have in the years. And they, you know, look at so many, if you go up north of Where I’m at, all the way up the east coast, those states have lost.

I mean, sheriffs basically are relegated to just, you know, serving papers and operating jails. They don’t do the law enforcement and so forth of the county. And that’s. That’s a shame because the people lose that ability to have a direct impact on how their laws are enforced. When it’s a city police chief at the. I mean, I often give Richmond as example. You know, we watched cities burn all over the country a few years ago, and we watched enrichment. It’s a prime example. They burned dump trucks, cars, destroyed property, assaulted people, until finally that police chief said, I can’t stand it any longer.

And he started making arrests against the will of the city council. They fired him. They appointed an acting chief. And that chief stood by for 11 days and said, enough is enough. More things were burning and people getting hurt. And when he said, go get them guys, they removed him. Eleven days after the first chief. And that’s a prime example. In the middle of riots, of city burning and people getting hurt, a man sworn to uphold the law as a chief of police and acting chief get pulled by a liberal council that wanted mayhem. And we saw that all over the United States.

But that’s personal. That’s just south of me a little ways in Richmond. And to see that happen, and that’s a prime example of why. I mean, every agency has its role, but sheriffs, you didn’t see that stuff happening. What sheriff was in charge of a jurisdiction where a county or city had Bernie and Briding? They didn’t. Because sheriffs, they will not let that happen. Because those voters, those people who put them in office will. Will remove them immediately if they do, because that’s the way it should be. You have an oath you’re supposed to protect. And we didn’t see that happening across this country then.

I mean, I had to take a stand against the state and local police after the media came to me saying, like to show you this. So they’re going to start arresting these people who gathering in church parking lots with mass, saying that they can’t have church service. And I said, wait a minute, that’s First Amendment. So I had a little discussion with the reporter, gave a quote, and I said, well, you can go back and tell them, and you can tell the health director or state police or anyone else, it’s not happening. I run the jail.

No one will go to jail for that violation. And I will intervene and stop anyone getting cuffed if I’m Aware of it. Well, quickly, within 24 hours, the story kind of went moot. They didn’t want to talk about it, and they changed their stance with the state and town. Well, no, we’re not going to arrest anyone. We’ll direct the complaints elsewhere. Well, you know, so that was First Amendment, but prior to that was Second Amendment, when I took on the governor on the gun ban. So sheriffs can make an enormous impact on protecting their citizens and protecting their citizens rights.

Let’s get specific about the CSPOA and Richard Mac in terms of helping you get your pardon from President Trump. And I’m not looking for credit, but I do want. These are the CSPOA state leaders and inside CSPOA people that are part of the posse that watch this conference. And I want them to understand the role we played because a lot of times things happen, people don’t realize they’ve been involved in it. A quick example is, hey, there was this sheriff that was gonna be the DEA chief for President Trump. He was a bad sheriff, wasn’t a good guy.

Chad or whatever, his name is not Bianco. That’s the. Anyway, Chad. Do you know what his name is? Jack? There’s two Chads, one on the west coast, one on the East Coast. Anyway, they’re both sheriffs. So that Chad sheriff from Florida, he got nominated as the dea, and we as the cspoa, knew he wasn’t a good guy, and we pushed back really hard and shut down his nomination. And then now this pardon. And so I want you to talk a little bit about the CSPA and Richard Mack and some of the involvement there. We know some of these other people get tremendous credit.

We’re not trying to take credit from them, but I want people to know what their dues do, and I want people to know what we spend our time on. When you hear it, you know, it seems like it’s silent from us for a month, and then something big happens. Hey, man, we worked our guts out. And so I don’t want credit, but I do want people to kind of understand, especially our insiders. Sheriff Jenkins. Absolutely, I am. And you’re right. I know Sheriff Mack doesn’t want credit, but it is, it is just simple to say from the moment he contacted me, you know, when you have something like this happen and, you know, you’ve been indict and you’re just.

I mean, your whole world is rocked. And, you know, later on when I got that contact from Sheriff Mack, you know, having known him for a long time and respected him and he, you know, he said, you know, I want to meet with you in person. I want to talk to you. I want to see what we can do. When was that? When did that happen? I’m sorry, I don’t have a date. But we were talking many, many months back when this started. Point, though. So right when this kind of broke is when he basically reached out and said, hey, man, we got to work on this together.

Can we meet? Right, Absolutely. And he did, you know, he, you know, and I was at his disposal, but he said, look, I’ve got to be, you know, here and there. I’m FL into here. I’m going to get a layover. Can we meet? And we did. And my God, the man, I can’t thank him enough, you know, just. Just the emotional support at that juncture to be able to have someone in his position who’s been through a very, you know, similar situation, fighting the weight, the full weight of the government and to sit down with him.

And, I mean, he took all the time in the world to lay out, you know, his thoughts. He done, you know, obviously you all. I don’t know who had helped him, but he’d done his research, he had some ideas. He wanted to meet with my attorneys. He, well, obviously contacted them, spoke with length with them, offered a number of suggestions on direct for evidence and witnesses and so forth. He was more than glad, you know, he offered over and over to come and be a witness in court for me. And of course, that’s a whole other story with people not getting allowed to testify or what we wanted to put on.

But I can’t say enough. I mean, the other gentleman already mentioned, I won’t beat that to death. But, yes, I was actually getting around. I wanted to mention by name, you know, the sheriff in detail with you all, and then of course, my attorney as well, Phil Andonian, the great man that really was a comfort along the way as well and working so hard for me. But people like these men, what they did to, you know, that literally saved my life, saved my freedom, my family, you know, nothing means more than your family. And when you’re.

You’re ready to be pulled away from them for the rest of your life or, you know, many, many years, it’s. It’s hard to get through that. And they, you know, through my attorney, through Sheriff Mack and others, especially Sheriff Mack, I can’t tell you, you know, that whether it’s a group call or Zoom meeting or something where we’re going through prepping, you know, looking at what their crap that they’re trying to twist and turn. And Sheriff Ma had some, I won’t go into it, but I mean, he had some very good, clear arguments and ideas that he put forth that helped.

I mean, I can’t say in a short form what he did for us. It was monumental. And then when it came time after conviction, immediately, I mean, he just grabbed another gear and it was, okay, we’ve got to get your story one way or the other. It’s got to go to the president. This can’t stand. And he might, he said that was a bullhorn. It can’t stand. And he, you know, every, I don’t know, it was so frequent. He called, he’d email, he’d text and say, you know, Scott, you know, I know so and so let’s give this a try.

And this, you know, I’m going to contact so and so and they’re in it. And he would. It was so uplifting. You know, it might be a couple days and then I get this message, hey, hang on, I’m gonna try to call you. I just had a great call and I think I’ve got something working. And I can’t describe what that does for you when you are facing, you know, you’re literally going to be going to prison in a few months and there’s no hope other than this appeal that takes forever. And, you know, I was broke.

I didn’t have any money for an appeal attorney. But thank God they’ll appoint you an attorney and so forth. But I just, I can’t say enough thank you to Sheriff Mack. Do you think if Sheriff Mack didn’t reach out and stuff, do you think this would have all happened? I don’t. I like to think God is behind it and I say that not discrediting any of these men, but I like to think it was going to happen if it’s God’s will. And I believe it was just like it was God’s will that we got President Trump again for good, for what we needed.

But yeah, I mean, if he hasn’t been working on it, if he and the, you know, like I mentioned General Flynn or some others, I don’t know that Ed Martin, who needed to hear and get the information he did, or other people would have, would have made that route up to the president’s desk. So, yes, it. Very Well, I can’t point to any one particular link in this chain of people who did so much work, but I know that, you know, had it not been for all of them, I don’t know that it would have happened because it took.

It was a mountain to move. And I don’t criticize the system. I mean, the president, I mean, it’s the most powerful job in the world and busiest. And you know, what they have coming at them and what they’re trying to undertake in all directions. I just. I can’t fathom that little old me, you know, this country sheriff out in Virginia and going through this. I mean, yes, I did all I could to support the president from the day he first, you know, ran and was first term. I. We love the man, we believed in him and still do.

And never. I never. I was well known. I guess I was probably the strongest, best known supporter of him, not just in this county, but anywhere around. I never, I never lost any, any strength in fighting for the man. And it broke our hearts when he left office. But we kept fighting and then that’s. I think that’s why I ended up here, because we did keep fighting as sheriffs and we stepped on the wrong toes when we started to go after Hunter or some other things. So the reason I bring it up, I agree that it’s God that makes this happen.

But I do believe that God expects us to have a role to play. And I do believe oftentimes when we stand up for the sacred cause of liberty, when we put priorities in order, when we do what God wants us to do, oftentimes we become his hands and we, you know, our instruments in his hands to do his work. And to me, that’s kind of really where the CSPOA sees ourselves fitting in. And it’s a. It’s a balance. On one hand, I don’t want any credit. I’d like just to ride off into the sunset and be left alone.

I’ve got plenty of family and loved ones and I’ve got eight kids and nine grandchildren. So Richard Mack has kids and grandchildren too. So, you know, we get it. We don’t need credit. But the reason that I mentioned it is because it’s hard for us. On one hand, we don’t want any credit. On the other hand, and, you know, people are wondering, people are wondering, what do we spend our time on when people give money to us? What do we do with it? What are we. What are we really spending our. Sometimes people just feel like, hey man, we give you guys money and you don’t do anything.

And so we’ve got to kind of at some point. It’s kind of the sad part about being a talk show host too. That I am. On one hand, you don’t want to promote yourself like you’re a rock star. At the same time, if you don’t somehow promote yourself somewhere, then people kind of don’t realize some of the value that you bring to the table. And that’s kind of, Jack, where I am trying to position this, because I want people to really understand that’s what we’re doing with your time and your money, though, Jack. Thank you, Sam.

I want to play a 55 second cut here from Sheriff Mack speaking on your behalf, Scott. And also before that, I want to ask you if you. If you have the technology and know how to do it there, Turn your mic down just a short little bit because you’re breaking up and it just causes a little splatter. But let’s say I’m just going to play this because it’s powerful and it follows right along with what you’re saying. Sheriff Mack did an amazing job of trying to promote this and getting it out to everyone who would help.

And at the same time, he personally put his heart into it. And here’s an example of that right now. One final thing that I would like to say. What we’ve covered here today. Southern poverty Law center. You’re damn right. I want a pardon for sheriff Scott Jenkins. He broke no law. He splc. Send me the name of the victim in his crime and I’ll change my mind. Agreed. But you liars there who have listed me as a domestic terrorist, you have me on your list of domestic terrorists in America. This is why you have no credibility.

Because you lie about that. And you don’t care if you’re lying. You’re just hoping to get more donations with the millions and millions you already have. And you are a farce. You are criminals, and I have no time for you. So will I keep talking about you? Yes, but only because you get away with too much. And I just. I. I’m just not gonna let you get away with all this crap. So anyway, and that’s the final thing that I would like to say. What was. All right, Jack. Jack, I need you to send me that sound bite, though.

Email that to me, will you? Yeah, yeah, it’s on the. And everybody. I think I put it in. Or she did. I put it in the chat. But email that to me, though. We are live. It’s my first ever live stream. I’m so glad to do it with you. You know, that’s a nice thing about. Count on it to keep going, even when you press stop. Anyway, SCOTT I also want to say, and I like Sam, take it back over here. You know, I was reading through over the last couple of days the various things that have been posted since, you know, after you were that you had lost and been convicted and, you know, your things about you went away, nobody said anything.

And then, of course, when you got your pardon and it was boom, everywhere, BBC, you name it, you’ve been every single place, every single one of them repeated the same lie that was originally created a long time ago as you went into your beginning stages of this court case and so forth. And it reminded me of that video. And maybe you saw it, it was when the TV stations across the country all produced the same sound bite that ended up with something like, and this is going to destroy our democracy, something similar to that. It was the same repetitive script repeated by every single news organization in the country.

And it’s the same way right now. There’s nobody done any research. No one followed it up. None of these people in the comments have ever seen a drop of research. All the people that are producing it on YouTube and so forth for various TV stations around D.C. in your area and across the country are all research, reading the same exact sound bite. They put their actors as news anchors in front of the camera. They read it with some dramatic flair, and then they pretend that that’s their story and there’s not one original news story. I’ve seen nobody do any research.

There’s nobody ask you about how the FBI got involved with this, what was their role in, you know, setting you up? So let’s stop you there, Jack, and talk about some of this. So there’s a question in the chat, basically said, hey, who told you about the pardon and how did you feel right when you got it, number one? And then number two, tell us about the undercover thugs that really became agent provocateurs in this case. Sheriff well, that first question is wonderful. My cell phone rang that, like I said that evening, that family gathered for prayer and say our goodbyes before me, leaving the next day to make that long drive.

And my phone rang and I looked at it, the number I can’t repeat, but it was a cell phone call. I thought it was a scam. I almost didn’t answer it. But when I did, I heard, you know, sheriff, is this guy. And I said, yes. And he said, this is the president. And, you know, at first you kind of, even though I’m in full mode of thinking, praying I was going to hear something. You think it’s going to be an attorney or someone calling you. And it’s this voice. And it took me a second and I said, oh my God, this is a.

He said, yeah, that’s what everybody says. It’s me. Can you hear me? Okay. And I mean the man that we see at speeches and press conferences, that is the man that was on the phone with me. Someone you just love to hang out and have a conversation with or hang out with your family and get to know. Because the man, I can’t, I cannot describe. He talked for almost 10 minutes. He, at one point he’s, you know, he wanted me to tell him a few things and ask questions and explain things a little more. He’d been briefed on and you know, and at one point.

So was your wife there? And I said, well, no. And here he is, the president, you know, and he says, well, I’ll wait, go get her. And you know, he said, have your family gather around, let’s talk. And I just, I can’t explain it. I mean we, it was, it was a wonderful call. And so, so, you know, after the call we had a prayer of thanks for God and intervening and I’ll never be able to thank him enough. It was two years of hell and sorry. But you know, we stayed faithful, prayerful all along, never gave up hope and God took care of us.

And he works through that president and his staff. I know, every day. And I’m thankful for the question. Thank you for asking. Yes, he called himself personally of all. I just, I know how busy I was as a sheriff running a small town office and I don’t know how the man, you know, I don’t know how he keeps up the pace. He does. He hardly sleeps. So God bless him, keep him strong and keep him safe. And the next question. I’m sorry, drawn a blank. You wanted to hear about what happened? Yeah. He wanted you to talk a little bit about the thugs that set you up.

Yes. I guess to start with, I had a longtime friend and guy I brought on he volunteer auxiliary deputy to supervise as head of my auxiliary deputy group. For those who don’t understand, auxiliary deputies for sheriffs across the country, most states are the same. You know, they’re unpaid. I would compare it to like a volunteer fire department. You know, they volunteer their services and do various things. But understand with the sheriff, or at least in Virginia, the sheriff, it’s much like the old time posse. There’s no mandate, no law, no requirement that we train them or do a darn thing with any of them if we don’t choose to.

And you can use them in various roles. You may have them do only admin functions. Some will actually have them strap on a weapon and go ride with officers. Some get them fully trained and certified as an officer. Each sheriff can take on the liability he chooses. And just to clarify, not only can take on the liability that he chooses, but understand that there’s no clear guidelines. In fact, the sheriff, Bob Songer put together his posse example, and he basically shares the document with any sheriff that wants it. And so this whole relationship is all at the sheriff’s pleasure, right? Absolutely.

And, you know, I’m proud of the fact that I improved that office a lot, to the point of getting nationally accredited in my last term and only fourth in the state to do that. And my guys worked and accomplished it. But that policy manual, those rules that we go by as an accredited agency, any given day I came into that office, I could tear it up and say, it’s gone. We’re going to operate on a memo or no rules or no guidelines in writing. That’s the power of a sheriff. That’s. It goes back hundreds of years to it, you know, and stop and think Virginia.

I mean, we didn’t change it. And we’re the oldest. We had the first sheriff’s office in the country. So hundreds of years of history. A sheriff is not required to, you know, train like an FBI agent or state police officer or anyone else. We have separate things that guide sheriff’s requirements, which are very limited. You got to be a US Citizen, you got to have a high school diploma or equivalent and, you know, 18 and so on. Well, I say so on. That’s about it, you know, you don’t have to require anything else. You don’t even have to qualify them on a firearm.

And from the day these jerk agents, the two that came to me, especially the younger one, Clauser, I think that’s his name, yeah, they didn’t know their butt from a hole in the ground on half the authority of a sheriff. And I had to correct the. And they peddled that to a jury and even got a judge believing some of that crap. And he even repeated the false information when he sentenced me. And I’m not being mad or mean to the judge. The man was kind enough. He came down after sentencing and even shook my hand.

I’ve never seen that. So I want to. I do want to say something kind that, you know, this does not come from a place of hatred or meanness toward any of these people, even the judge. I don’t Say it in that way, but I’m saying it because it’s so frustrating that this was allowed to happen. And in the system that I swore to be a part of. And you know, when a judge sentencing me, locking me up for 10 years, is able to sit on a bench and say, sheriff, you’re a criminal, blah, blah, blah, and you hired unqualified, unvetted, and chose not to train these men, blah, blah, blah.

Well, those three things there are absolutely demonstrably false statements. And I would love to have those three DOJ prosecutors stand before the court with me and let’s gamble our 10 years freedom now. And they promise they will go get locked up if the, if the false information I’m saying he spoke is not correct because it was wrong. And if you would say, as, I mean, I’m a high school graduate, I didn’t even finish a two year degree. These are legal evil minds that went through law school and college, and they stand in a court of law, the highest court in our state, the federal court, and they peddle this false information.

And a jury and even the reporters and my community members listen and believe this bullshit is true. I didn’t hire anyone that was unvetted. Everyone that ever took oath for me in 12 years was vetted by the standards required by law. And when he said the first word, when he said, I hired unqualified, what the hell is unqualified? All the people that ever took an oath from me, go pull all the records out of our court sworn in under me. Every one of them was a US citizen, high school diploma or equivalent 18 or older. What are the qualifications, your honor, that you stole, you stood, you sat in a court of law and you said that I did something I did not, and you locked my ass up for 10 years spouting false information.

And I had to sit and take it and then listen to that with a hundred other things I had to stomach through days of testimony in a trial that I couldn’t fight back. And every time they would say these false things, I couldn’t call a witness or put on evidence to refute it because you get shut down. I couldn’t even say or speak and mention some of the support and things we did to support the Trump administration and why some of these came to pass because they wouldn’t allow that. I had to pay thousands of dollars to have hearings to ask to bring certain evidence in and get shut down.

And just like now technology, we can sit here today and do this, but remotely and do this quickly. No, I’VE got attorneys that I had to pay at almost 800 to $1,000 an hour, two men to drive to Charlottesville and back for a 30 minute hearing. But when you have one of the prosecutors laugh to another attorney and say that’s what we intend, we’re going to cost him every dime he has, it doesn’t matter if we convict him, we’re going to cost him everything and he’s not going to be reelected. And that was, and you know, it’s kind of funny that lady doesn’t work there anymore because after she indicted me, she ended up resigning abruptly.

I’m sure there wasn’t anything unethical done in any of these things they pulled. But it’s sickening. Do you think Dan Bongino and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi and others, are they going to drum these thugs out of the FBI? We’ve got to change the game here, Sheriff Jenkins, or we’re going to keep getting what we’ve always got, which is the good guys go to jail and the criminals run free. It seems like there’s a two tiered justice system. Are they going to, you know, really throw down and get this solved, do you think? Well, I know the president said to me, well when he called again yesterday and we spoke for a while, he was again so kind.

I know he said to me more than once in that conversation yesterday that they’re playing hardball at doj. I’ve only met Pam and Dan. I’ve never met Cash. I can’t say it all. I know that my fortunate to meet him and I watched now watch their confirmation hearings and everything I’ve seen of them. What I know and believe is if someone’s going to get it done, they’re going to get it done. I mean if you’ve ever watched Dan on his show or you know, Cash, I mean look at some of the interviews and I mean he laid it on the line before he was ever considered for that job.

And I believe that man, when he talked about what he was going to do with the FBI building and so on, you know, God bless Trump, that’s man for that job. And I believe, yes, they are going and I say to them if they hear this, I want nothing, I want no retribution. I’m not asking to do anything mean. I pray to God and I don’t wish ill will on the soul. I forgive them. But you do want accountability and transparency. I mean if there’s, if there’s a question I can answer or my attorney, if they need something, I’M available.

I’m not asking for anything mean to happen to anyone. I just hope that we can write this stuff and get our, get our country on the right track. Anytime they act within the rule of law and act within their scope and their oath of office, hey, we can disagree all day long, that’s fine. When they act outside of their scopes of office and, or when they take authorities and powers that they have never been appropriately delegated by the American people, or when they literally lie or entrap people, you know, those are the kind of things that make me lose my mind.

It’s like, you know what? We’re not the retribution cops or the Secretary of Retribution or anything like that. We are, though, clearly, accountability, transparency, and we demand adherence to the law. And this idea that you can act outside of law, but somehow you have this, you know, immunity is absolutely bogus. Sheriff well, exactly. I started off, and I’ll finish saying, you know, example, when those two agents came at me to talk, and I sat down with them forever and answered the questions, didn’t ask for a lawyer. I had nothing to hide. I just. They crap that they had in their head that they thought they knew about the authority of a sheriff, I had to keep correcting them saying, no, that’s, that doesn’t apply to me.

I don’t have to do that. And it was, you could tell it was angering, especially the young one. He, he was a jerk. I mean, he was a jerk. He served the warrant. You know, when they first arraigned me, he made sure he clamped down the cuffs and tried to cause pain. When I tell him, you know, you know, that’s hurt. You know, you don’t have to injure my leg with that shackle. I mean, I come here willingly to get the paperwork served, but, you know, even the US Marshals, those guys, a shout out to the marshals at Charlottesville, those are wonderful men.

And they see the jerks and the asinine behavior of these thug FBI agents. And I don’t mean that of all agents. I mean, there’s certain ones, there’s bad eggs everywhere. But when they question me, you know, they had a search warrant to take my phones and search my home. To this day, they never executed that warrant, even though they knew. They’re claiming that these cash donations, along with these checks and things I took, supposedly bribes, are just money into my campaign account. And they happen to be these people who did become auxiliary deputies. Big deal. It happens all the time with every sheriff.

But they question me that day and when they are told, when you know that there’s evidence. When I tell, you know, if you know, you’ve got a search warrant from a home. And my gun vault has all the money and things that you’re claiming I’ve taken from for personal use. And I’m saying, hey, I’m here. I’m sitting here at a police headquarters and state police. I ain’t going anywhere. Go execute search warrant. You don’t need a warrant. I’ll sign a waiver. Go get it out of my vault. And you’ll see it’s all there. You know, I’m sure you got the bills marked and serial numbers.

Go compare them. It’s there. It’s still in the same envelopes. They never went there. That money sat where it was. My lawyers can confirm this. We. It makes no sense. Till I was convicted and sentenced, that money never left those envelopes and in that fireproof bag where it was. Because, you know, and we want. It’s just. It’s sickening. So many things that could show that what they were claiming was false. I mean, yes, it was set up and staged. They. I mean, even the recordings. I mean, you talk about splicing, cutting. I mean, the technology and the technology we got today, now that’s something I would like.

I would love for Pam and them to look into in their agency to see there’s AI and stuff out there. I mean, I know 10 years ago I did commercials for ads and I would sit and read the same script over and over, and they would take pieces and splice my words and everything to make it sound and flow just right. They set it to music. And if you could do that with a cheap compute app 10 years ago, my God, what can they do now with a guy who they hear on a tap wiretap they got a warrant for? They hear him and other sheriff saying, we’re going to go to a secret location, view the Hunter laptop and get warrants for him and arrest him.

I think when that made its way up to Garland and they realized that probably potus, you know, Biden heard that. I’m sure they said, take gloves off and go get these little guys that think they’re going to arrest my son. So if that happened, I imagine it’s possible that someone wanting to make brownie points or wanting, you know, a true believer is going to go, oh, hell yeah, the gloves are off. I don’t know what they’re capable of, but I know when in my trial, I hope it’s a video or, you know, at least a transcript.

I mean the gall. They had the one agent uncovered there on the stand and they played this stupid tape. I mean it’s, it’s a. You see me and then it goes black. No video. They lost video. And you can hear this garbled mess of words with three people in the room and they claim it’s me. But it’s so bad that they got to print the words, the, the captions on the screen of supposedly saying. And even the agent couldn’t say, couldn’t swear and say that’s what I said. And, and I sure nobody could understand what he was garbled.

And they claimed that I said, you know, X, Y and Z. And it was horrible, incriminating when I mean you couldn’t understand the things. And the agent. This is what gets me. This is a multi billion dollar agency. And I hope Cash Patel was listening. What a load of bullshit. That agent sat there and out of his own mouth said we build our recording equipment in house and it’s not as durable as commercially made equipment that other agencies may use. And it. We’ll lose audio or video and yeah, especially when we have. Especially FBI agents. We want to get in the clear and we want to make sure there’s no record of it.

Our city just fails on demand. You know, it’s. I mean my small town sheriff’s office had better equipment for our undercovers than the FBI. No, when the FBI wants to do some bad things, I guess. But total bull, I think. And, but I had to sit and stomach this stuff and my attorneys, you know, everything. I mean you talk about a mountain to climb. I mean when we would try to find things, I mean they gave a terabyte of. It’s an information dump to overload your attorneys. I only had two guys in a small firm and they have other cases.

But I mean to prepare for court in a short span of a few months for those who don’t know a terabyte of files, that’s 13 truckloads of filing cabinets of information to go through. And then we had to go to court. I had to pay them again to go to court and ask the judge. Could you at least give us a table of contents where we won’t have. We’re looking for this picture of this video or this document here on page nine and the other one at page 9853 unrelated we’ll find page two paper terrorism. Yeah, they ruled against us.

He wouldn’t, he wouldn’t even order them to give us a more succinct content so that they can even try. They should be sued for paper terrorism though. They call those paper terrorists when you literally overload people intentionally with paper. And that’s what they did to Ammon Bundy and others as well. Well, the whole process, there’s not enough time for me to tell the public what they need to know of this railroad job. I’m not saying that I’m not guilty of maybe being stupid, careless or sloppy on something in the processes and so. But that’s not criminal.

That’s not something, you know, it’s campaign. I did nothing that a thousand or every other sheriff had now or past hasn’t done. My God, I can name a sheriff a couple before me. I mean you now he could go to prison for the stuff. I know and lots of us know he did did very wrong along campaign stuff. I mean, you know, you want to criticize, you know, auxiliary deputy program. I mean the program we had did amazing things. But they got a guy, I’m sorry, I’ll jump back. This guy that I’d known forever and was in charge of my program.

They got him caught up in his private businesses, over the barrel, facing 100 years in prison for millions of dollars in tax fraud. And they said, look, you’re going to work with us. And he said, well certainly, you know, I’ll set the sheriff up. Give me some undercovers. And they went to work. But when they really lost last, you know, all reason I think was that phone call. Wayne Ivey from Brevard, Florida, and Mike Lewis from Maryland and I and some others, we all fall in Protect America now after Trump’s first term and we created that and grew it with other sheriffs.

But on this one fateful day, December 22nd, Mark Wayne calls, right? Yeah. Wayne calls and says, hey, the hunter Biden laptop guy, the hard drive, you know, we have a former USA Attorney General for state that are willing to work with us, fly us into the secret location. We view the crimes of the child porn and other crazy things like on the computer. We go back and obtain warrants. You know, if I do this by myself, they’re going to kill me on brake lines, be cut or something, you know, and so let’s do it as a group.

So we all on the call and I said, yep, I’m in. And you know, so we go forward now we actually, we didn’t get to execute that actually, thank God. And I won’t say who, but a great person the state AG and some others did go forward on that. But we see, you know, that never materialized. We ended up with Zombie and his son and wife running the White House for the rest of the term. But when this all broke with me, it was only a matter of weeks from the time of that phone call before my life changed forever.

You can’t tell me that wasn’t the last straw, that they were like, oh, no, gloves come off. You know, you’ve tried other ways. You know, ever since he, you know, fell out with Governor Northam. And I didn’t know that, you know, you got, you know, the names that came up in this. I mean, I didn’t know James Comey had a connection to Richmond law firms. And of course, Governor Northam and other. Northam stood publicly in early 2020 and said to the media that he would deal with me later after I finally defeated his gun ban bill.

That had a lot of national attention. But, you know, Covid hit and that kind of, you know, shut all of that down. But if people could understand the whole background of how hated I was because of the 2A stuff, and then my work with the border sheriffs and others, and I am not the only one. I mean, there are other sheriffs and I won’t. That’s up to them whether they want to talk. But, I mean, we’ve got 3,000 plus sheriffs in the country, and I’m telling you, there’s other people that can tell you some nightmares that the Biden administration had put them through.

I know a lot of them probably. I know. I know some. Them don’t want to talk because, you know, they’re in political office and, and I respect their privacy. But, I mean, but I will say this, and I’m sorry if he gets mad if I bring him up, but, you know, he’s a fine man. Chuck Jenkins, sheriff from Frederick, Maryland, that man was wrongly charged. When all this stuff broke with me, Chuck was on Protect America now as well. But they had. They had tortured him in his election year, 22 and on bullshit gun stuff that was ridiculous.

And it supposedly cleared it and said nothing’s happening, but miraculously, you know, wasn’t that much longer after this phone call actually that they surprise indicted him on a gun charge. And he went through two years of hell and was ready to stand trial just about the time I was last December, whatever, just a few months back. And thank God, once President Trump was elected, about a week later, the U.S. attorney over in Baltimore dropped his case and he didn’t have to go to trial. That man, I mean, think about it. That. That’s another man just a little ways away.

Same kind of background, same concern. I mean, the border security. I mean, Chuck and I were well known in our state. I had the last 287 program to deal with ICE and illegals. And Chuck was well known, famous, you know, around Maryland for what he did. Speaking of ice, Jack, you have a quick column, quick article on ice. Why don’t you brief the sheriff and let him respond on that one, will you? I have several, several discussions of ICE here. Let me see which one you might be talking about. I’ve got the one. Whether we have several states that are, you know, attempting, including Texas, to make it important or impossible for sheriffs to act on their own, they have to decide to go along with the state mandates.

State of Connecticut is just passed a bill that will allow individuals to sue state governments and individuals in the state, mostly officials, if they do something that violates the state law in support of ice. So in other words, we have both situations. We have states that are requiring you to follow ICE and states like Washington state that hate it if you follow ICE and try to attack you like they’re doing with Bob Songer in Washington state. But also along that same line, we have, we have so many people now writing and books coming out, you know, about the fact that the sheriff and his posse and Bob Songer is one that gets attacked continuously, about the fact that they are allowed to have, you know, a posse and that they name them as everything that, that Scott is talking about.

You know, they’re, they’re lawless, they don’t have any training. They are effectively brown shirts. And I just read an article from somebody on substack paramilitary brown shirts being created now, and it’s all legal. And this is a large, well written article from an individual who has Instagram channels and everything else just endlessly. I would assume he’s being paid by source or, or others that are undermining our civilization. But, you know, they go on to question the idea what is a constitutional sheriff? And you know, how does the Constitution fit into a situation like this? Going back claiming that over the last 200 years, you know, sheriffs have been involved with this bad problem and this terrible act, and it’s just unreal.

But it is a concerted, well funded background effort to, you know, to undermine the sheriff altogether. I mean, in this particular article, as you say, in the nation’s 3,000 county sheriffs are elected. They run for office in 46 states, often unopposed, and they are 92% white. 90% are white. Men, just 5 are African American. 2% of the sheriffs are women. And then he from that makes, you know, numerous racist complaints against sheriffs and their policies, et cetera. They run unopposed. But anyway, this is just one thing. We see it every week, Sam. The splc, various news organizations, the University of Arizona.

You know, many people attack sheriffs as though it is some sort of alien rogue organization that’s, you know, got to be honed in. And it’s very scary. That’s one of my soapboxes I used to speak on in it. And I often say a couple little comments that I hope your listeners, if they don’t hear much else from me, you know, for the sake of our country and the work that Sheriff Mack does and others like, please listen up to this. When you mentioned that about just what you said. These, you know, they compare them to Nazis or this or that or whatever.

They. They have posses that are going to, you know, be brown shirts and so on. Forget all of that and stop for a minute. Well, actually I’m a. I’m gonna repeat Tom Homan famously always saying about the border laws and things. If you don’t like the law, change it. But until you do, we’re going to enforce laws that’s there and that’s the way it is for sheriffs. As simply as I can put it, if you don’t like the fact that we’re elected in all these counties all over the country, in 40 some states, change the damn laws.

But until you do, we’re going to continue on and thank God we can as the only directly elected law enforcement leaders, executives in the country. And because we’re elected directly by them, we have wide latitude. We get to implement our platform by hiring and firing at will, just like a governor or president or others. And they can’t stand that because we don’t need to have the holdovers like poor Cash Patel and them what they’re dealing with the crap that they got to keep on staff, paying a paycheck to these just sorry individuals, unethical and just, just wrong doing the crap.

I mean, I’d have fired any detective, and rightly so. BD certified. If you’ve got a suspect sitting there going, hey, evidence that will prove my innocence is in the gun vault, go get it. You got a search warrant. You have no reason not to. And then you never do. I would think there should at least be an internal investigation. And something happened with people like that. And if you work for a sheriff, sheriff, we just fire you on the spot. We know you’ve done something wrong like that. And that’s what people hate is these sheriffs all over the country.

They’re very strong leaders because they know they answer only to the people at the election booth. Now, I say all that to preface that you know, your listeners of people who haven’t been in sheriff’s office or law enforcement need to know the true authority. And I often use a case as an example when they would come at me saying, how dare you, a small town Virginia sheriff, say you’re not, not going to allow a lawfully enacted law by the legislature of banning ars and high cap banks to be instituted and you’re going to swear in thousands as auxiliaries to bypass it, to nullify it in your county.

And I stopped them at that committee meeting that day. And that’s what rocked Richmond and the nation when I said, you all aren’t understanding me. You need to listen and get this clearly. I’m not limited to my county borders or even state borders. I have people that work every day for me for pay that commute in three counties away. I can swear in tens of thousands of deputies all over Virginia, anytime I want want. And there’s no limit. You cannot cap it. You can change the law, but it’s not changed now. And I can swear in as many as I want.

And yes, one sheriff in Virginia can nullify that law if you want to enact it. And no, I’m not a legal scholar, but listen up, I know I can read. There’s a Supreme Court case that says weapons in common use. There’s no more common sporting rifle than an AR15. There’s no more common pistol for defense and concealed carry than a high cap magazine of 10 rounds or more. So yes, I can, I can say this is not, not constitutional on its face and I’m going to take a stand. I’m not going to be like these other talking heads that wanted 15 minutes of fame.

Not just not disparaging any particular sheriff. I’m just saying a lot of people got a lot of interview time at that point in 2020, in January, when I was just saying, no, no, don’t confuse me. I never said I wouldn’t enforce an unconstitutional law. I take an oath, enforce laws. Now, I can dictate where I want to dedicate my resources, but I’m not going to ever. Like all these others, I think it was foolish. They said, we won’t, I won’t allow my men to enforce it. Well, what the hell good does that do if the State police and city police are going to enforce it.

You’re not going to go out and grab them and stop them from making arrests. So I had studied it long ahead and decided my stance would be, if it came to that day, I will swear in citizens to be able to keep their guns and be available, call up as a posse, as an auxiliary deputy. And that lit their hair on fire. But when I made that statement to clarify Richmond to the committee that day, it went national quickly when they realized, holy cow, a state, a sheriff in each state could nullify even a congressional law to ban these guns.

And I did double down later if they, at a conference, a press conference in D.C. with Chip Roy and border sheriffs, Breitbart and others did an interview with me and I laid it out and I said, yep, you’re damn right I will swear in people. And if I get a sheriff from each state and make it easier and Congress can ban assault weapons if they want. And the power of a sheriff, you know, and I mentioned Sheriff Mack and others and I said, people need to understand we are the chief law enforcement officer in the county.

I’m not disrespecting FBI and others. You know, if we have a kidnapping bank, Robbie, whatever, they have special things they’ll investigate and it’s not our ability. It. But generally speaking, yes, the sheriff, we control, you know, those areas and they couldn’t stand it and they knew fast forward, you know, they have a guy, small town guy like me that’s, that’s basically stirring up this stuff and educating people and that’s a threat, you know, because that, that interferes with their, their game plan. But one case I was going to mention is a prime example when they said to me over and over, I would get, you’re not a constitutional scholar.

How dare you interpret, you know, legal opinions of the Supreme Court. You’re not saying what’s a common use weapon. And I said, well, let’s think about it this way. Few counties away is Caroline County, Virginia, and in 1958, a black female married a white male and we got a Supreme Court case. Before using common sense as a sheriff, he could have said to the deputies, men, you can’t make that arrest. We know that’s unconstitutional. We had a civil war. All men are created equal. The fact she’s black, he’s white, I’m not letting you lock them up.

But he didn’t do that. Now had he done that then, wouldn’t have taken 10 years to have a Supreme Court ruling to say, yeah, what we knew all along that’s legal. You know, we’re all created by God and so on. We had to have a supreme court case because I don’t know, the man is before my time. But a stupid sheriff let a stupid arrest be made and make its way through the courts. And how does that not harm all of us in law enforcement in our country? So, yeah, fast forward to now when you got Scott Jenkins a few counties away going, I’ve got eyes and I’m not, you know, I’m not the smartest guy in the room, but I’ve got common sense enough to understand that’s not right.

I’m not going to let it stand. And while the courts have to work out a stupid law that’s enacted by the Dems one year, no, I’m not going to have my citizens disarmed and hurt or killed because their weapons are taken away. They’re not taken. And I have a legal authority to swear them in. And that, I think was the beginning of all my troubles when I doubled down and said I would do it if Congress enacted a bill. And then it’s from there. Sorry to interrupt, Sheriff Jenkins. The interesting link is Sheriff Max Winn over Bill Clinton.

The Supreme Court was over that jurisdictional reality as well. And interestingly enough, you were attacked over the Second Amendment just as Sheriff Mack was literally 25 years apart. Jack. Sam, you’re right. And by the way, we have time. So there’s a couple questions, at least one I want to ask Scott to address. And that is, you know, we see 19 states are already on board, another nine or 10 are very close to this Constitutional Convention and given the go ahead in their state. And unfortunately, you know, what I’m hearing is that the Constitution itself is. Is profoundly flawed and especially when it comes to things like the first and second Amendment.

And I’m under the impression that when they, if they do get a Constitutional convention, then we can say goodbye to freedom of speech. We can say goodbye to the right to keep and bear arms in the form that you’re familiar with. What do you think about the idea of a Constitutional convention? And states like Virginia is not one, but West Virginia was like right on board to start with. I have no idea how they think this can be confined to just a small area. You know, they want to talk about term limits and balancing the budget.

No way is that going to stay in that box. What do you think? Well, that’s a big question and loaded and I won’t even take time to go into all of it in General, though, I am always in favor of the freedom of the people to gather and use the constitutional mechanisms in place, whether it’s a constitutional convention, others, you know, I’ve been at gun shows and other things where I’ve signed those petitions and things myself because, you know, if they meet the standard. But yes, there’s a lot of bad that can come out of, you know, because people are people and Lord knows you can weight the scale and fill the room with the wrong people and get the wrong things accomplished.

And I think a lot of them don’t think about that. And I’ve seen lots of things with bills and laws and things go very badly in the state level as well as, you know, we watched at the higher level. So that said, I guess what I would say in general about the whole subject is, you know, we have those founding documents as they are. They are strong enough to do anything we really need to do with our country. The problem is we do not have strong men and women in the leadership in this country, whether it’s the halls of Congress or down, especially where it’s most important, in the state legislature and our county governments, our school boards and our board of supervisors.

It’s sickening to watch the things happening all over the country all the time. And it starts with sheriffs. Look at the power pulled away from the sheriffs everywhere in this nation, state by state, state, the authority they once had versus now. And it happens with the purse strings as well as other things. And I look at Virginia when I started as a sheriff, those who don’t know history with a lot of states, when I started in 1990, I took my oath at age 18. And I think about the fact that where it came in that short time, at that time, Virginia paid the full salary of deputy sheriffs in the state.

They paid for the running of the patrol cars, the purchase of uniforms. And I can go on and on. And in a matter of just however many years they went to then paying only a portion of the salaries of the deputies, nothing to pay for the police cars, the mileage, the fuel, the maintenance, the uniforms and so on. And the more you push that down to the county government, then suddenly when that sheriff has to bow his head and stand before a board and plead for money to operate, well, he lost that independence that was written into that state constitution to start with those constitutional offices in Virginia, I’m only speaking for my state, but most are like it, you know, treasurer, secretary, treasurer, clerk of the court, commonwealth attorney and others.

It’s, it’s important they have to remain independent of the influence of that local board. I mean, I can go on and on with examples, but when a sheriff has to count to two board members to please get money to operate and enforce the laws and things that he was elected on a platform to implement, well, then suddenly you start having now like a police chief, a board who’s going to say, well, no, I mean, I’ll give you an example. Not long before I left office, we got this one sorry jerk of a board member. He drinks a lot, I guess, but he’s on a phone call, actually.

FBI. You have that on my phone. You play it. His name’s Tom Underlook. He actually threatened to pull my budget money because one of my deputies stopped the guy for DUI that worked for him. I’ve got a two recorded conversation where this ass tells me what he’s going to do to pull my budget money if I don’t count to him. And we leave the farm tag vehicles that work for him. This drunk that my deputy stopped and didn’t even arrest, actually. But anyway, I got this tongue lashing and I recorded it because he’s such a jerk.

But I didn’t do it to try to get the man charged. I did it because I wanted to later at this other stuff, not. I wanted to talk to other board members and others in private and say, this is why we have the system we had. And it’s been. It’s been whittled away with the purse string in Richmond over time and we can’t have a sheriff. I’m a strong guy and I don’t care. I’m not, you know, the guy’s a jerk. I don’t like him. But I’m not looking to press charges. I’m just looking to say, look, this can’t happen.

The system, it’s designed to be independent. To have a strong sheriff acting independent, funded by the state, checks the balance there. Exactly. And it’s. So I use that as just. I mean, we’ve all experienced it. There’s not a sheriff out there that hasn’t had the local asinine, you know, board member or mayor, whoever that might be, a jerk come wanting favors. Problem was I, and that was a problem in my county from the day I got elected a dozen years before. I didn’t play by the rules that others did and I didn’t do the favors others did.

So I never got into who’s who crowd. And, you know, I’m not the country club type, you know, so when you have guys like Me, and I picture Sheriff Mack very much the same. That’s the strength of the office of sheriff, and that’s what saves a lot in our country when we have strong men and women who can take stands and say, no, I’m here to do this. I enforce the law, I don’t make the law. But when I see something clearly constitutional, I’m going to take the authority I have and I’ll talk to other people in other offices to use their authority to push back and legally constitutionally say, no.

That’s, that’s against the founding documents. We can’t do that. Our citizens have rights, whether it’s worshiping for church in a pandemic and a sheriff, and say, no, you can do that. You may die doing it, but I’m going to protect your right to gather and do that. That based on the First Amendment and. Go ahead. Sam. Interposition. Jack, I, you know, I, I think that you’re, you’re, you’re completely correct. I think that the, the morality of the, of the populace now has been deliberately destroyed. We can see the evidence of that going all the way back into the 1930s, 40s and 50s, and then beginning full steam in the 1960s.

So people can’t think from the point of view of morality any longer. And this is a bad time to have a constitutional convention for that reason alone. But you’re right. I mean, it is there. It can be done. And if it can be done, it will be done. If they can change it and remove the First Amendment as they’re doing now, by segregating speech into different categories for which they censor. You know, for example, you can speak as long as it’s not called hate speech or anti Semitism or you’re not a denier or something. They make up these filters, and then if you get through those filters, then, well, of course you have free speech.

I believe that those things will be codified into even stronger position if they do get a chance to change and modify the constitution. And I’m 100% certain of that in my own mind. But regardless, I want to say, you know, as we have been on here for some time, there are a couple of things. I think you were a great man. I appreciate the fact that you put up with this. I know that it’s, I have a lot of experience with reading cases that went through the federal courts. There’s no way to win, and it’s impossible to win.

They have all the money in the world. They don’t give you a chance to speak. They will not let you present any evidence at all. So you don’t even need to bother to buy or pay for an attorney. They win 99.6% of the time. Most people settle out of court because they know it’s impossible to win and they will shoot every dime. They have a way trying to do it. So this is something that is so terribly wrong in our civilization that it’s hard to imagine. And so from that point of view, going forward, the fact that you went into a no win scenario and stood there and took it, and you would not win the appeal either.

If you read the news, news articles that I read in the last 24 hours, there’s not a person out there that even noticed what really happened to you. They read the same script in almost the same words repeatedly. It’s sickening. And from that point of view, you wouldn’t even be heard of again. You’re just a pop. And so I think you want to hear the good news, Jack. Yep. Now Sheriff Jenkins can help more with the cspo. That’s what I was going to ask him next. What, what are you going to do now? I mean, don’t go in a corner and just pretend, you know, that it’s, it’s all gone away.

Let’s, let’s stand up and go after him. At least you can write a book and, you know, go from there. Maybe you can become a sheriff again. Well, to be as blunt as I can. Well, first of all, I’ll say I was more than humbled and honored. Two conversations with the president and for him to multiple times say he wanted me to run again. I’m honored for him to even say that to me. And so that said, not saying I won’t, but I don’t have any desire to at the moment. I need to rest and heal with my family.

Emotionally, they are just whipped. But we’re going to get, get through this. Okay. And, and to your point, first and foremost, yes, there are, there’s God, always thankful to God first. And of course President Trump. I’ll never say his name enough. And I mean, hell, there’s nobody in this county, everyone knows me and I mean there’s no one around here that’s ever supported a president more than I have. And I, and I, you know, I take a bullet point and I’m speaking to someone who’s had bullets come close and I mean that. You know, there’s, there, there are certain people Memorial Day, you know, there’s a great gal news the other day, a former seal and he Said, you know, we ask that you be people worth dying for.

And, you know, we have a president now and a team in place that is so good and going to do such great work. They’re not perfect people, and that’s what I hate. They attack the person or the personality. You know, look at their policy, look at what they’re doing, and. And waited on that, and God bless them, they’re doing wonderful work, and the first term was good, but this is phenomenal. They are awful running. So if I could ever do anything, I’m not asking for a job, please don’t take it that way. I’m just saying, you know, I love those people.

My family will always love them for what they’ve done for us. It could be. It could be the president. It could be Ed Martin. God knows it could be General Flynn or Roger Stone. But Sheriff Mack, and, you know, my attorney, there’s so many people that did such wonderful things for me. I will always do anything I can for them. And Sheriff Mack, you know, it was all. Obviously, I always respected and. And thought a lot of him in the years past for what we, you know, what he’d done and what he could do for Sheriff.

So it’s just a hundredfold more now the care, thought, or respect I have, and I want, yes, anything you all need from me, if I could. I don’t want to take your time or anything, but to anyone in the audience, anyone supporting, please, you know, it’s important to support this work. None of us have money to waste. I wish I did, but I don’t. But if you can support this organization, please do. And. And the work he’s doing is so important to educate and strengthen the backbone of these sheriffs who might be, you know, hamstrung. They might be a little hesitant.

You know, they kind of keep their hands in their pockets until one steps forward, and then they follow. Well, we need more strong sheriffs to take stands and start leading the group. And if Sheriff Mack has just played that role forever, so please support him, the group, and yes, my solemn word, anything you need me anywhere to help, if I can be there, if I can do something, I’m there. I’ll tell my story in more detail. I had nothing to hide. I never did. I just. I couldn’t talk about it because, you know, lawyers in court.

But I. I can talk now. I’m free to speak. You know, I’ll look you in the eye. You know, like I said, those eight, those agents. Why don’t we sit down and take polygraphs together, gentlemen. Let’s, let’s, let’s gamble our careers or maybe our freedom on that. The dirty crap that you all pulled and that stands for you ladies too. That came after me the way you did. You’re evil. And I’m sorry. I’m getting angry saying it, but you hurt my family more than you did me. Honestly, I didn’t leave Faith and I’ve never lost the fight I got.

We will push for justice and we’ll template. We’ll temper that with mercy. Won’t we share? Yes. I, I don’t hold. I don’t want retribution. I don’t want revenge. That’s for God. Everyone answers at their own time. But, and I’m sorry I got a little man there, but that it comes and goes. I just, all I’m saying is God bless the people who are doing this stuff and, and working like Sheriff Mack is and I. Please, a shout out again. General Flint. God, I have so much respect for that man’s life and what he’s done. Roger Stone.

I’ve never met him in person, but thankful so much for him. His, his. I mean, look, I mean the man could be doing anything and he’s so busy and to take the time to help somebody’s never even met like me and Ed Martin. I mean, brand new in a job, a man who started all eyes are on him. He just landed in that new job and he, I mean he, I guess his staff, everyone works so fast to do their due diligence to prepare a proper investigation report for, for the president and then for him to trust.

You know, he asked me on the call, he said, you know, I’m asking you, are you innocent? And we talked and I told him I gave him some information. That’s the thing. It’s not one of these things where it’s some political favor. I mean, yes, I was with a sheriff group. We supported president and we worked on border security and other things. And yeah, I’d shake his hand once before and I’ve been to Mar a Lago or FPI events and things, but I wasn’t one of the sheriff’s buddies. Clearly I’m just a small town with president’s buddies.

I just a small town sheriff. But I mean, yes, I, I, I supported him. Always have, always will. And the man saw from his staff and people working on my case that there was an injustice and, and he gave mercy where it was so desperately needed. And I thank God for him. But yes, in a group, all of you men, everyone I mentioned right down to my attorney. I’m forever indebted, and whatever you need from me, you just shout. Very good. What about donations? Is there some place you’re taking donations? I know you lost your house.

Well, once upon a time, my attorney had set up a GoFundMe, but, you know, we didn’t get a lot in that. But I. I mean, I can get him to pull. I’m not a tech guy. I don’t even have, you know, anything set up for contact right now. I was going to prison, so we. I don’t even have any social media set up right now, but we’re just trying to get. Get some rest and heal right now as a family. But I. I will get the information to you if you give me a little while. I’ll have my wife pull it up and send you something.

I. But I’m not doing. Please, everyone. I. It’s hard. Money’s tight, but I’m not asking for anything, and it’s not why I’m doing this. I want to tell what happened to me to keep other people from. From, you know, having it happen to them. But. But if you. If you feel you can. I don’t want to take away from the cspoa, though, but if you’re able to. That. That would be an amazing thing, and I greatly appreciate the help, you know. Sheriff, where do they go? I’ll get the link to you in just a moment. It’s a GoFundMe.

It’s still active. My attorney had set it up to help pay with the legal fees. Jack will get that in the notes and get that out in. In the event, and then send it to our email list. Right, Jack? Yes, sir. Yep. If you can get it to me, Scott, you know, do you have. I think I’ll email it to you. Yeah, I sent you stuff, so. All right. Otherwise, text me in and I’ll send it to you as well. Thanks, everybody. Yep. And we appreciate everything you did, as it’s unimaginable what you went through. The thought of giving up 10 years of your life, and you’re a police officer going into a prison, you know, unless you’re going to a country club prison, it’s not going to be a fun time.

And. Well, I’ve been working out a little bit, preparing for probably some unnecessary exercise I was going to have. Didn’t know how that was going to work out, but thank God you saved me. Good. All right, well, I appreciate you being here, Sam. Always appreciate you being here. And if you have any final words, Sam, please don’t forget to save your recording. This is a great one. Thank you Sheriff. God bless you and all that you do. Thank you. Thank you Sheriff. And we will make this recording available for free. So we’re gonna put it up so that everyone can see it and pass it around please.

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