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Summary
➡ A man named Rick, diagnosed with cancer, was advised to start chemotherapy. However, after speaking with patients undergoing the treatment, he decided against it. Instead, he followed advice from a letter he received, which led him to a clinic in Tijuana that focused on the immune system. Despite his family’s objections, he went to Tijuana, and believes this decision saved his life.
➡ The speaker shares his experience with alternative treatments for an unspecified condition, including injections of Laetril (B17), pro enzymes, and vitamin B15. He also underwent a detox process and changed his diet to include organic foods, fruits, and vegetables. Despite initial discomfort and unfamiliarity, he noticed a significant improvement in his health and reduction in pain. He also mentions the challenges of obtaining B17 due to legal restrictions, but notes that it’s now more accessible.
➡ The text discusses the use of apricot seeds and B17 capsules as a food supplement, which some believe can help prevent metabolic diseases and keep cancer patients in remission. The speaker also shares his personal experience with a five-year detox program, emphasizing a diet rich in raw fruits and vegetables, minimal sugar, and regular fasting. However, he warns that the path to alternative healthcare will face legal challenges and stresses the importance of staying vigilant.
➡ The speaker discusses his belief in the importance of a balanced lifestyle and diet over reliance on pharmaceutical drugs. He criticizes the medical industry for focusing on profit rather than patient health, and suggests that stress and mental health are often overlooked factors in physical health. He also shares personal experiences of reducing medication use in his family, and emphasizes the need for patients to question their doctors and understand their treatments. Lastly, he advocates for natural supplements and enzymes as part of a healthy lifestyle.
➡ The text discusses an alternative approach to cancer treatment that involves boosting the immune system to fight cancer cells. The method is cost-effective and has shown promising results, but it’s important to do your own research and consider all options. The speaker also mentions the RNC store, which supports this approach, and encourages listeners to explore other health options beyond traditional medicine.
Transcript
You’re in second place because that Dodd Frank law, most people don’t know that no one should have their retirement in the bank. Let Noble Gold help you with this. I want you to call 867-435-4222 or go to Dave HodgesGoal.com that’s Dave HodgesGoal.com put your email in. I’ll send you out an information packet. Our guest is R. And he’s a 50 year cancer survivor and he has an inspiring journey of healing. And some of you, and I know this is grim. Some of you who are watching or listening to this broadcast right now, you’re facing a dire diagnosis, and I don’t take that lightly.
And, and I’m hoping that there’ll be benefit for you or someone you love has this devastating diagnosis. There’s something in this show for you that will give you hope. And you know, I’m a critic of how we treat cancer. We haven’t changed much in about 40 years and it’s time that we start letting out the technologies that work. And friends of mine like John Richardson, who you’ve heard on this show multiple times, are doing exactly that. Well, anyway, 50 years ago, Rick Hill faced a harrowing diagnosis. Stage three embryonal cell carcinoma. Rare and aggressive form. And it began as testicular cancer but spread to his lymphatic system, becoming systemic.
In 1974, the doctors at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester delivered the grim news. They scheduled him for chemotherapy and advised him to bring his family to say their goodbyes. Wait a minute. We’re going to treat you, but you’re probably going to die. I mean, that seems to be the message there. So much for bedside manner. Rather than pursuing chemotherapy with little hope of success, Rick sought an alternative. A pastor friend introduced him to the Oasis of Hope Hospital in Tijuana. Leaving chemotherapy behind, Rick traveled to Oasis, where he embarked on a groundbreaking treatment plan centered on laatril, vitamin B17.
We’ve heard about that from John. Detoxification and holistic healing are a cornerstone of this. Against all odds, Rick made a full recovery. Now, five decades later, his remarkable story stands as a testament to. To resilience, determination, and the power of alternative medicine. Kind of funny. You’re getting this story in alternative media, and there’s a reason for that word, alternative. Rick’s life after recovery has been nothing short of extraordinary. He’s been a talk show host on WSBR Radio and Baccaratone and a satire columnist for Baccaratone News. And he’s an inventor, and this is really interesting. He invented an ozone purifier that reduces mold, bacteria, viruses in homes and office.
A patent he later sold to Shakley. I’m very familiar with this. I’ve done the research on this before. His accomplishments in business soared as he became the senior VP and he generated $50 million of sale. Okay. Rick retired to one of my favorite places, San Diego, to enjoy life with his grandchildren. But his connection to the oasis of hope remains strong. He volunteered his time conducting nutritional cooking shows for patients, and he just go on and on and on with his service to humanity based on his success story. And I’m going to get down here, and I want to cover one more thing here in this intro, which is lengthy, but I.
It’s inspirational, folks. This is why we’re starting with this, because when we’re done with this show, if you’re connected to someone with cancer or if you have that dire diagnosis, we want to leave you with hope and we want to leave you with an alternative. So Rick is also an accomplished author. Okay. He’s written Too Young to Die and the Cancer Conundrum, both of which are a miraculous story of recovery. Rick’s story is more than a tale of survival. It’s a legacy of hope, and it’s an example for what all of us can follow when we walk down this difficult path.
Okay? And you know, we’re going to unfold some of this with John Richardson and his work with John that you’re very familiar with, if you followed this show for any length of time. So, anyway, for those of you seeking inspiration in the face of adversity, this is your interview. Rick, I want to welcome you to the show, and the fact that you’re connected to John Richardson and the RNC is a high, high honor for us. Can I get you to move your camera over just a little bit to the right and center you in the picture there we Go.
Okay, okay. Yeah, we don’t want to cut your ear off there. Okay. You’ve been through it. You’ve been through enough. We know what started you in the health movement. Do you have. By the way, do you have any idea. Did they ever speculate about causation? Did they try to say it was genetics or something in the environment? What did they tell you? Yeah. As you know, because you’ve interviewed John multiple times, we believe that cancer is a metabolic disease like scurvy. If you don’t eat any vitamin C at all for a length of time, you get scurvy.
Eat the vitamin C, the scurvy goes away. Not rocket science. Cancer, I think, is much the same way. It’s just that our culture has never honored the use of what’s called nitrides or, like, in a. In a. Apricot. I think you can see those. Yes, I can see that. Yes, those are apricot kernels. If you take an apricot and cut the seed open, there’s an almond in there. Looks like an almond. Very bitter. It tastes like. But small, but larger. An apple seed. If you’ve ever eaten an apple seed, you know what that tastes like. And you say, well, it’s bitter.
I don’t want to eat it. Yeah. Remember the first time you had a drink of beer? I do. It was so bitter. I just. I thought. And the IPAs and all that, I mean, it’s like, what is going on? Who could ever order that? But it’s an acquired taste. Now I can eat six or eight of those. I could drink a beer, although I. I try not too much. So that’s what I’m saying. Our culture doesn’t emphasize those foods that have this quality to them. The cultures that do have very little to no metabolic diseases, but we prefer drugs because you can patent them and you can make millions of dollars with them.
So we don’t really approach this like a metabolic disease. But I went to. I’ll be telling my story. I’m sure the clinic I went to treated me as though it were a metabolic disease. And I just celebrated my. My 50th year, as you said. In fact, the. The clinic I went to gave me this nice little, you know, memoir that says celebrating 50 years of hope. So, yes, it works. People are always hearing me speak, and they go, well, you know, I don’t. I don’t. Maybe he never had cancer in the first place, or maybe he’s the only one that survived.
Well, let me show you a little something. If you think that may be true. Here’s a Mayo Clinic letter. You see it? Signed by my, Yes, I can see surgeon. And there it’s a little clearer. That letter is in my possession because I accuse the Mayo Clinic of misdiagnosing me. When the American Cancer Society followed me around and when an article would appear in the paper, this was big news in the 70s, American Cancer Society would print a column in the newspaper saying, and I have it memorized, there’s a stock answer says, as for the testimony offered, comma, it may be that he never had cancer in the first place.
So I wrote the Mayo Clinic and said, the American Cancer Society says, you have misdiagnosed me. That’s nine hours of surgery I didn’t need. One month of paying the hospital bills. I’m going to own a floor of that hospital. And overnight they sent me that letter. And it says, indeed you had. At that time it was stage three embryo high grade, which is like stage four high grade embryonal cell carcinoma. And that chemotherapy was mandatory. In other words, that wasn’t cured. Having surgery, Surgery back then was for, they didn’t have scans. And the only way they knew how far the cancer had spread is to keep cutting and removing cells and test them.
I mean, it was the dark ages. But they got all the way down. They operated on my feet, they found cancer. Operate on my neck right here, they found cancer. So the chemotherapist came to me and he said, it’s everywhere. And in 30 days, 60 days, every organ of your body will be under siege. So today’s Friday. We got to start chemo Monday. And it’s actinomycin D, if you want to look it up. It’s a lot like battery acid. And that’s, that’s how I know you have a real 50 year survivor on your show. Not an imposter, not somebody trying to get his 10 minutes of fame or whatever that expression is.
15 minutes. No, I’m doing this because pay it forward. Look what I’ve earned. I got six grandkids. I would have had none. None and never met my kids. Had I, I believe, taken that chemotherapy, I personally believe it would have killed me. I was down to 120 pounds, so weak I could hardly get out of bed. And they wanted to give me chemotherapy. A lot of it. Well, you know, they would have said we did everything we could. But, you know, he was really sick. So what about my story? Would you like me to cover? Well, I, I, it’s, it’s compelling already.
The £120. You. I just wanted to make sure you never started the chemo. Is that correct? That’s correct. Never athlete chemo, never had any radiation whatsoever. What I did do, being a Detroit greaser, is I went to. How it happened was if you believe in a higher power, you believe in God, you’re a Christian, a believer in Jesus, whatever you are. I’m going to tell you a real short story, okay? And you’ve got to decide whether that was the hand of God or was it coincidence. But I think even a skeptic would say the timing of that is amazing.
Chemotherapist told me on Friday I was going to start chemo Monday. Friday afternoon I went down chemotherapy row and I went into the rooms and sat down next to these critters having this treatment, and I said, my name’s Rick, I live down the hall. On Monday, I’ll be here in your ward having chemo. Just want to ask you one question. If you had it to do over, would you take this chemotherapy to a person? Dave, they said no way. Now, if you’re ready to buy a car and you talk to. And you want to buy a Chevy and.
Or Dodge, whatever, I don’t care which one it is, you want to buy a Chevy and you go to a Chevy dealer and you talk to the people that had bought a Chevy before you went and said, if you had to do over, would you buy Chevy? And they went, no. Are you kidding? It was always in the shop. And how smart would you be to get in your car and drive to the Chevy dealer? Now, I hear what you’re saying, and I agree with you. Here’s the problem most people are going to have, and I think this is sticking point number one is that we’re so brainwashed by society.
The doctor’s always right. You must always follow medical advice. In fact, they’ll even brand you and keep you from getting insurance benefits if you turn down a diagnosis and want a second opinion. I’ve had people on my show talk about that. So what pushed you to disregard other than the personal testimonies of the people in that chemo ward? What pushed you? What was the final decision maker for you? That I’m not going down this road and realize what. You have 72 hours to make a decision. It wasn’t very long. Yeah. Dave, I gotta, I gotta. I apologize.
I have to plug in my. I have to plug in my Macintosh. There you go. Okay. Just said it. Just said you’re. You’re going to lose your battery. Okay. Are we Good. Okay. I. I think so. It doesn’t. Okay. Just plugged in a new. Let me do some program surgery on the run here. If somehow we got disconnected, we could reconnect. And I’ve got expert people that can splice things together, so it’s no big deal. I’d say, if you’re comfortable with where we are at with this, because I know our time is short, and I want to make sure that we get in the essential elements here.
But back to my original question here. You had the testimony of people in the chemo ward, said, I’d never do this. Okay. And you walked away from that. Was that your deciding point? Or did you have anything else that pushed you away from traditional therapy? Okay, can you. Can you still hear me? I can hear you. Our pictures absent, but that’s okay. This is going out on a number of venues, and one of them is audio only, so that’s okay. If you could. I apologize. I’ll do this again for free. I feel badly. I just hooked up a new camera and that’s what’s going on.
Okay. Yeah, but I am plugged in, so we’re not going to. Okay, well, you can continue to work on it, but let’s continue with the interview, because as long as we can hear you, we have an interview. But anyway, I’ll repeat my question. Okay, so aside from what the chemo ward people told you, was there anything else that pushed you away from traditional cancer treatment? No. I was not one of those guys that went in skeptical. That’s a Mayo Clinic, for crying out loud. In fact, here was the miracle question. That was Friday afternoon when I asked all those people the question.
And then Friday, late afternoon, I got a letter in the mail. 13 cent stamp. So that tells you how long ago this was. And the letter in the mail said, if you want to live, you have to leave the Mayo Clinic. And I called the guy that sent the letter. He was a John Bircher, which is like maga, only on steroids. Yeah, I hear you. Yeah. And so I called the guy up and I said, john, did you get the part about I’m at the Mayo Clinic? He said, yeah. I said, that’s a citadel of modern medicine.
He said, yeah, I agree with that, but I don’t think it’s medicine you need, do you? And I said, well, I don’t know. I mean, they want to give me chemotherapy. And he said, and did they tell you that it was going to work? He said, well, I said, no. In fact, I kind of got the drift. It Wasn’t going to work because my cancer is so widespread. Yes. And he said, so you need to go where they understand the immune system. Him, at this point, I think that’s your only hope. I said, where do you think I ought to go? He said, are you sitting down? I said, yes.
He said, the good news is you fly into San Diego. Who doesn’t like San Diego? And I said, okay, good then, because I. I smelled it coming. He says, well, then you get on a bus and you go to Tijuana. And I said, john, I like you. You’re a nice guy. You’re a Baptist pastor. I have no reason to doubt anything about you except for this. I don’t think of Tijuana as a medical mecca. Chiclets, Tijuana, taxi, tequila, those things I think they’re really good at, but not medicine. He said, rick, there are clinics down there that are having massive results.
You need to check this out. Well, you know, because of what the chemotherapist said, I started calling people. Finally, I got a hold of Dr. Contreras and he said. I told him my story and he said, look, are you willing to do whatever we ask you to do? Are you willing? And I said, yeah, I am. Because the church was paying my way by this time. They put out an all. An all bulletin thing that Rick was in trouble and needed money. And so that night I went to my father in law or my family and said, I’m thinking about leaving the Mayo Clinic and going to Tijuana.
And my family’s from Detroit. Very demonstrative. I learned more swear words in the next 30 minutes than I learned growing up on the streets of Detroit. I’m telling you, they were furious. My. My brother Hill, if you can believe that, stood up and said, ricky, if you go to Tijuana, I’ll never speak to you again. I said, sam, if I don’t go to Tijuana, you may not get to speak to me again. And I went around the room and everybody was just really angry. Got to my father in law. He stood up and he said, I like it.
I’ll take him and I’ll put some money into this. Well, hello. That’s the vote. And I looked at my family members and they looked at their shoes. They didn’t want to do any of that. So I said, deal. And two days later, we left for Tijuana. And I’m here to tell you, Dave, it was like going down the rabbit hole. I mean, a greaser, I’d never been in a health food store in my life. In fact, I don’t think there was one in my city in 19, you know, 60s, 70s. And so when I got to San Diego, they took me to one so I know what to buy to eat.
And bravi shanker music playing in the background. Everybody walking around, 100% cotton wrinkled clothes, filching food out of barrels and holding it and saying, oh, wow, I can feel it. I’m the only one wearing underwear in the place. I’m telling you, I did not blend. And maybe some of your listeners don’t blend. It doesn’t matter. You don’t have to. You don’t have to gin up a level of belief for this to work. I’m square with you when I say I would have had more confidence in the Mayo Clinic than what was going to happen to me here.
This was stranger in a strange land for me. McDonald’s wasn’t. This was. So then the treatment started. And they gave me three gram injections of Laetril. You know, it is B17 and in the arm, just a push. And then they gave me pro enzymes. You know what those are? RNC has those available. And they also gave me vitamin B15, which was. Which would give me more oxygen. And then the next day, the nurse came in and said, we want to start your detox. I said, okay, good. So I said, what’s that? And she held up a hose.
And I said, what’s that for? And she said, well, have you ever changed the water in the radiator of your car? I said, oh, yeah, I had a 57 Ford Hearst, floor shift, slick tires. I was handling it, you know. And she, she said, how’d you do it? I said, well, you. You let the water. Then you put the hose in the top. Then when the water’s clear, you cap it up and lay rubber out of the parking lot. She said, yeah, yeah, that’s it. And I looked at her and I said, well, where does the hose go? And I was not thrilled.
And I. I’ve done a lot of colonics, Dave. I was gonna say, where did the hose go? Doesn’t sound too. To me. Hey, I wanted to go. I want to back up to something you talked about when you went to the health food store for the first time. Can you give us an idea of what they were telling you to eat? Well, it was actually quite good. I mean, it was all organic. All the food in there was organic. Then they had big bins of nuts and rices that you dish into a baggie and seal it and just all of this green, squishy foods that I wouldn’t even step in as a teenager.
I mean, it was a world that I was not familiar with. My world. My mother was born in Sand Mountain, Alabama and everything we ate was fried in lard. Everything. She could fry jello and improve it, I’m telling you. So all of a sudden I’m cast into San Diego. And this was not a five story hospital like it is now. Oasis of hope. And there’s no rooms where you can stay. You were on your own, pal. So we rented a really cheap hotel room and then we go out foraging the best we could at night in health food stores, trying to find something that we could swallow.
And so we bought rice dishes and we bought lots of fruits, lots of vegetables, that kind of thing, you know, like today’s stores, but not as nice. This was kind of a, a free for all, if that makes sense. You know, one of the things too, and I know that if you’re getting treated, they’re going to be able to help you with this. But Big Pharma and Big Ag has infiltrated the organic industry and polluted it and confused the public. I’m sure you’re aware of that. Well, that’s right. And just because it says organic or non GMO doesn’t necessarily mean, yeah, they’re telling you the truth.
But you can do research and, and look up brand names and they’ll show you the farms where they get it. And then sometimes there’s a little video of an interview with a farmer. And unless they’re all dedicated to the lie, you can, you can do better, you can eat better. But you’re right, I mean we have to be on guard all the time. And thank God Bobby Kennedy got in. I’m, I’m, I’m hoping for good things from him that he’ll, that he’ll challenge the bad guys, promote the good guys, make it easier to then free to select that.
I had to smuggle Dave B17 out of Mexico to use it. Me, a smuggler, I could have been arrested, thrown into a Mexican jail. It made no sense. It’s food, it’s just a food product. Rick, let me ask you this. Was it the Mexicans you had to worry about with the B17 or was it the Americans? Well, at the, yeah, at the, at the American border. So, yeah, yeah, you’re right. I stand corrected. It probably would have been an American prison. There’s an up, there’s an upgrade. Now let me, let me, let me check here because I don’t know the law at the border.
It’s illegal to bring in B17 from Mexico. Is that what I’m hearing? It was back then. Today, not so much. They, they don’t even check. I tell them when I’m going to visit a Waste of Hope, I’ll come back and they’ll say, you know, where are you going? Oas of hope when I come back. Where did you go? I went to the Waste of Hope Hospital. They don’t even ask me if I have anything. Okay. So they dropped the, you know, a lot of the problems that we had back then, but the attitude still is that you should.
You look on the Internet that government publications say doesn’t work, full of cyanide. Really, really, you know, poison. And I took. I testified for a Senate investigation committee in about 74, about 1976. And I met John’s father there, by the way. Dr. John Richardson. Yes. We didn’t get to be pals. I just introduced myself. I got picked as a testimonial because of the letter I had. I could prove that I was who I said I was. And so I got up and being the smart aleck kid from Detroit, I poured about six of the capsules, 500 milligram capsules into my hand to equal about three grams and a bottle of water.
And I threw them in my mouth and I drank some water and I said, now I’ve taken enough B17 to kill an adult male, according to the government, so keep your eye on me. You might have to, you know, call the emergency. Well, they weren’t thrilled with that. But I gave my little story, sat down, John Richardson, medical doctor John Richardson got up and he’s right out of central casting. I mean, he was tall, cleft chin, good looking, great voice. I mean, and he gave. And while he was speaking, they were listening. But about every two seconds, they’d look over at me, let’s see if the white foam was forming at the edges of my mouth.
And I was getting ready to keel over, you know, I mean, I kind of ruined his testimony. But they certainly got the point, you know, that what I did was just. And by the way, there’s a natural painkiller in B17 and. Or amygdalin is the formal term for what I was taking. And I had had, you know, 10 out, a total of 10 hours of surgery when I got down there. Raw, red scar, and I was in a lot of pain. In fact, they had me on morphine for a good period of time when I was at The Mayo Clinic.
And not that I hated that. I mean, there’s a vacation for you, but when you’re not, you know, when you. The pain just comes right back. And they started giving me these injections. I went to Dr. Contreras, I said, why am I feeling so much better? He said, well, because this is working. I said, yeah, but I mean, less pain. I can walk straight up now instead of hunched over like a 90 year old guy. He said, there’s a natural painkiller in the B17. And then when I got home from Tijuana, I was there three weeks.
I got home and the pain started to return. And I called Dr. Contreras and said, I’m relapsing. I know it. I’m dying again. He said, settle down. I’ve been looking at your records. I do. He would do the testing on your blood for your tumor markers. And he said, everything is going in the right direction. You are getting much better. The pain is coming back because you’re no longer using 3 to 6 grams of that injectable every day. But just hang on. Take the 500 milligram tablets. That pain will begin to subside. You’re going to be fine.
And he was right. But most people don’t know that. They don’t know that I not only didn’t get sick from taking the B17amygdalin, I felt better in the first week I was taking it. There’s a switch for you. Yeah. Where chemo takes you the opposite direction in terms of how you feel. Is someone able to get B17 today in a health food store or a prescription? I’m not aware of health food stores yet. I think maybe when Bobby gets started, that might be. But the RNC store.com, that, that’s the website. RNCstore.com sells it and sells it legally because they sell it as an adjunct, as.
As food, as a supplement. Got it? Yeah, I got it. Trying to cure anything. And it says that all over the place. You know, when you buy it, the doctors that are using. We have a doctor in Phoenix that’s using it for the last 25 years, but the patient signs a thing that says, I’m not trying to cure any disease. I’m not. This is a food supplement I’m buying. And he’s been audited twice and, and is totally free to do what he’s doing in the way that he does it, Maryland. So, you know, he could treat people, but not with this.
Not. Not saying, yes, I’m treating people with that now. I Understand, you’re, you’re treating without treating, so to speak. And the cancer police show up to make sure that that’s not happening. I, I, but it’s all in what you say, not so much in what you do. Does it really matter whether you say you’re taking as an adjunct or for treatment? Because the effect you would assume would be the same. Tell me how the apricot seeds come into this. Well, that wish my camera were on. We’ve got to redo this. I buy it by a big three pound bag and I did show it when the camera was still functioning, the seeds.
And so I buy them and I eat about 6 to 10 of those a day. I’ve developed a taste form now, and this doctor that uses it in the Phoenix area, he says once I get people past that initial stage of active cancer, if they’ll keep using those seeds and eating them and taking an occasional B17 capsule, he said, I’m telling you, we don’t have the patients relapse like other clinics do. He said, they get well, they stay well. As long as it’s infused in their diet regularly, they do well. So I would say to your listeners, if you don’t want a metabolic disease, if you want to avoid having to have a story like mine, log on to RNC store.com and I think you’ve set it up so they can get a discount.
Yeah, they do. If you use the discount code. Dave, Dave, you’ll get a discount on there@the RNC store.com. yeah, John and I set that up a long time ago. I’m a big believer in what you guys are doing because the re, the people that I talk to that do this have dramatic results. But we have to say this here on the show to be legally compliant. It’s simply an adjunct to treatment. It’s a food. Okay, So I fulfilled my legal obligation there. Yeah. And I know that, I know that the business is growing. John’s told me that because people are discovering this.
My hope is, is that Bobby Kennedy will actually move to protect people like the RNC store so they can continue to function. Because I know if the AMA had their way, they’d shut them down in a, in a heartbeat, boy. In a heartbeat. So, you know, I, I’m, I’m praying for Bobby. I hope that he is successful right away and gets this thing going so that. Look, Dave, we’ve got 24 months until maybe the house might flip again. So that 24 months is ours. Everything we need to do to make alternative medicine Mainstream medicine is probably going to happen in the next 24 months.
So we can’t. This is not the time to go on lengthy vacations. Now, we might hang on to the House. If that’s the case, then we could have four years of progress. But I’m not counting on it because it’s pretty common for the House to flip. And it’s not like we don’t have a lot of margin now. I mean, it’s not like we have a lot of margin now. So it’s time to make hey, man. Shows like yours are what’s making the difference because you’re stepping up right now, realizing this is the time. And, and good for you.
That’s. That’s bravery right there. So I’m on your team. Let’s get this done. Or stupidity. You know, where politics meets alternative health care. You’re exactly right. So In November of 2028, 2026, I should say we’ll be voting again. And when you say flip the House, Rick’s talking about the House of Representatives. And Rick, I’m going to give you a nightmare to contend with. And I’ve been telling my audience this. We need to stay vigilant on top of things because if we lose the House and the Senate, Trump will be impeached and convicted MAGA will be dead.
It’ll be all over. And I’m going to make a prediction here, too, Rick. It’s not going to be smooth sailing for the RNC store or anybody else like Bob Kennedy that wants to make legitimate alternative health care available because they’re going to use the courts. And here’s why I say that the president has the right to deport convicted illegal aliens. That’s in Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution. Yet we got judges blocking this illegally. He has the right to hire and fire people in the executive branch and spend money as he sees fit so he can defund US Aid.
Now, the judges have overturned this and said, you got to go back to what Biden was doing. You’re going to. We’re going to face the same thing in alternative health care. We’re going to face legal challenges. This is not going to be an easy path for all of us, folks. And you know the Democrats would rather have you dead than lose power. And I want you all to hear this with regard to Laetrel B17 or any other alternative health care. They’d rather have you dead if they can’t control it and their donor class can’t make money.
Yeah, it’s. Well, that’s Why? I said I’m excited about the next 20, what, 22 months or whatever we have left. What we’re going to do, we’re going to do now. And hopefully that will carry the day. Rick, I want to ask you too, I understand you’re the program at Oasis is a five year program, is that right? If I understand your question, if they go there as a patient, it’s three weeks. Three weeks, yeah. My program of detox lasted five full years. Okay. I dedicated myself to stay. 80% of the food that I ate was raw, in other words, fruits and vegetables, organic, uncooked.
And I, I, I volunteered to fast every single week for a couple days. I used watermelon juice. It was just a thing I read. And I really enjoy watermelon. I juiced it and then I did colonics once a week. Now, a lot of your listeners aren’t going to want to sign up for those programs like that, and they don’t have to. But when you were as sick As I was, three weeks, I mean, five years is nothing. I, I didn’t weigh more than 130, 30, 35 pounds for the next five years. Sure. You know, and somebody comes up to me that weighs, you know, 300 pounds and says, I, I really, I loved what you had to say.
I’m on the same program you are for the last three years. No, they’re not. They’re not. You can’t maintain that kind of body mass eating exactly the way that I was eating. Then after five years, I segued to a little more, you know, modified diet, including a little more organic cooked food. But, but sugar always, sugar was always down, way down. If I have dessert, it’s, it’s one organic cookie, uno and sometimes a half. Because sugar is the real culprit here. Cancer feeds on it. And you know that because when they do some of these scans, they give you a sugar compound that is a trap that the cancer cells are attracted to it.
And that’s what makes that part of the film light up is, is their manic love of sugar, you know, so that tells you right there. So I didn’t say I didn’t eat any sugar. First five years it was almost none. But after my five year transition to a more metropolitan diet, but organic, very little sugar, and don’t do the diet Cokes, people. I’m not eating, I’m not doing sugar. That’s junk they put in there to make it sweet. I think I’d rather have you eat the sugar. I mean, that stuff is really bad. For you. I wanted to ask you about the use of the word metabolic.
You’re saying that the Dr. Contreras that treated you was treating this as a metabolic disorder. So would these treatments also apply to other metabolic disorders like diabetes? Yes. I mean, first thing they do is put you on metformin, which is really a gateway drug, huh? Yeah. Then comes all the rest of. The average person with type 2 diabetes in our culture is on five prescriptions for life. Five, Dave. That’s a big money maker. Sure. And if. And if people would say, I don’t want. And if you ever see anybody that’s really suffering from diabetes, like they’ve had a leg amputated and they’re almost blind because those.
Oh, it’s a. It’s a horrible disease. In some ways, it’s worse than cancer. So, yeah, if. If you will treat that as a metabolic disease and treat it with a very modified diet like I prescribed. Prescribed. Described is what I meant to say. Yeah, it. You’ll. You’ll be the recipient. You will be the person who, like me, I’m 74 years old. I take no prescription drugs. I’m not Superman. I get the flu once in a while. I mean, I get head colds every spring and fall. I’m bugged with allergies. It’s not like I. It’s not like I’m now superhuman.
But I’m not having my life threatened anymore with things that I have a lot of control over. Yeah. And you know what? I’m not hearing from you, which I think is responsible. I haven’t heard you once say, I’m forsaking all treatment from big pharma and the medical industry. But with cancer, I think your advice is well taken, and I’ll tell you why. I’ve looked at how cancer has been treated. I actually went and researched this, and the advances made in 40 years are negligible compared to scientific advances in other areas. And there’s a lag in the treatment developments and the lag in the treatment results that is not paralleled in other industries.
And to me, that tells me there’s intentionality there to keep people. It’s like McDonald’s fast food. You want returning customers. It seems like the cancer industry is determined to have repeat business. Yeah, they’re a business. You know, look, if I get in a car accident and I’ve got broken bones and heavy lacerations, what have you, I’m not going to go to a chiropractor. I’m not going to go to a nutritionist at that point I’m going to go to some guy or lady that knows how to sew me up and reset bones and, and do emergency spleen.
You know, I mean, I’m not an obscure anist. I don’t hate all medical people. I think it’s an honorary profession. But they really need to stay away from the metabolic diseases. Unless they’re willing to get on the bandwagon and say, no, I’m not giving you metformin. Here’s a diet sheet. Follow it. That’s responsible medicine. Or, you know, I had a buddy of mine who was taking cholesterol medication and he got adult onset. Oh, I can’t think of what it is now. Jerry’s kids. What, what disease was he treat? Almost had it. Anyway, the doctor said to him, are you taking any? And he listed three or four medical drugs.
And my buddy said, yeah, he said, stop today. So they know that some of this stuff has severe side effects. Shorten his life. I lost him two years ago. But other than that surgery, yeah, we have the best emergency health care in the world. And that’s where the benefits of American medicine stop. I mean, look, we spend 10 times more than the next 10 countries combined and yet we’ve got the lowest lifespan in the first world. I mean, those are stats. You can’t. I mean, Cubans live one year longer than we do. It’s ridiculous what we’re looking at here.
But you know, we can get into all the conspiracy theories and intentionalities. The bottom line is you don’t have to go beyond the profit making motives. Why else would they want to make Layotrill illegal? You go back to the rife machine. It’s the same thing, Rick. It’s the same exact thing. We want to deny what we don’t control. That’s, that’s their motto, I think. And you know, you know how this all got started. John and I have talked about this on air. When the AMA came into being, it was really under the direction and the funding of Rockefeller, John Rockefeller.
And he set this up to be a money making business just like his oil business. And then they’ve controlled it ever since. And Big Pharma writes the medical school curriculums. And I’m going to give you example. Okay. My background primarily is in psychology. I’ve kind of branched into research and stat as well. And I’ve taught that everywhere from high school to postgraduate at university level and, and I know well about the mind body relationship. I know it very well. I’ve studied it, I’ve used it in my therapeutic approaches when I was doing therapy, but not one time when I’ve ever gone to a doctor.
And maybe I’ve been sick a couple of times in the same year that they ever asked me, how’s your stress? How are things going at home, Dave? Are you okay? Are you having challenges in your life? Not once did they look at the stress connection. Not one doctor I’ve ever talked to. Yeah. And you know, JI Rodale, that’s a name you probably haven’t heard for a long time. Yeah, Prevention magazine, that guy, he wrote a book called Happy People Rarely get Cancer. Now, I take a little exception to that. I think there are cases where people get around certain chemicals, but still, I happen to think if they had a.
A good level of nitrilocide in their system, they would be far more capable of staying well. I agree. But J I. Rodale pointed out that in, in cases, in certain cases, the attitude can poison the pond. And, you know, even if they eat well, they managed to ruin their health because of their depression. So you’re right. I think the psychologies are an important part of our medical institution. I don’t think we have to start keeping people drunk. We’ve got the research from Holmes and Raw. R A H E, not R A W, but Holmes and Raw.
And you can look this up, people. It’s on the Internet. They actually give you a stress test. What have you been through the last two years? And the correlation between serious illness and certain numerical scores on that scale from that self inventory, the correlation is about 0.8. And if you don’t know what that means in the general public, that means the relationship between stress and health is extremely interconnected. And it’s not the sole factor. It’s not necessarily a causative factor, but it sets into motion a diminished immune system which leads to problems. And listen, I’m on firm ground saying this.
I’ve taught this for 40 years, so I know of what I speak here. And I do agree with the statement happy people don’t get cancer generally, certainly not as a rule of thumb. But the more endorphins and dopamine you put in your system, the stronger your immune system. That’s a given fact, and we know that already. And, and we just totally ignore the mind body relationship. You know why? Because there’s no money to be made in it with big Pharma, that’s why. Yeah, if they’re not prescribing psychotropic or whatever, the word is medications. That’s the word.
There’s no money in it for them. I mean, talk therapy, there is that, but not. Doesn’t compare with, you know, 10 million people using strong drugs three times before my dad’s wife died. There’s two or three ladies in and out of that deal, but he. He got old. Alcoholism, and she got old. And I visited them one time and opened the drawer next to her barcal lounger and There were about 25 medications in there. And I said, what in the world are you taking and why? And she got all excited. She said, well, this one right here, she pointed to it is for my cholesterol.
This keeps my cholesterol down. And then. But this one here is for the side effects that that one produces. And then this one here is for my. And she went. And each drug she was taking had one or two other drugs to offset the damage done. And it was 25 bottles. I know. I hear you. My mom was the victim of what you’re talking about. My sister and I had to go through and deal with that. We got her from. From 15 meds down to three and. But it wasn’t a cooperative endeavor, if you know what I mean.
I had to put my foot on the throat of the doctor, metaphorically speaking, to get him to cooperate. I said, if you’re not going to answer these questions, some doctor will. And I said, so you can answer them or we’re going elsewhere. And that’s what it took to get straight answers. What does this drug do? It counters this. Why is she taking this? Is it necessary to preserve her life? She’s 80 years old. So how much life are you going to get out of this drug? I mean, those are the kinds of discussions we were having.
And a doctor looked at me, he said, who are you? And I said, I’ve written courses in research and stat at the college level. So I said, you’re not going to be able to BS me here with this. I want to know where I can go to see the clinical studies. And it just, it’s. But see, the problem is, is most people don’t have your background with personal experience or my background with academic training to ask the right question. So they mindlessly follow doctor’s orders and sometimes that leads them into an early grave. Well, I get up in the morning, I take one of these, the B17.
Love it. From RNC. I take a couple of these, the pro enzymes. Interesting story about the enzymes is that without them, your cancer can hide from your immune system. That, that you. You develop a coding on the cancer cells which causes your immune system to walk down the hall and not see them. But when you take that, that goes away. And they. Now, when they walk down the hall, they go, hey, look, get them. And your immune system assists then the cyanide in killing up the cancer. And then I take, of course, the B15. But you know what? That’s hardly any money at all.
And I’m 74 years old, and I can do it in the morning, in. In 30 seconds. Try a night of hospital stay. Rick, let’s compare. Let’s compare the costs there. It’s absolutely ridiculous. I want to make sure we send people with an option. And listen, I always say pursue your own options. Don’t take Dave Hodges or. I’m not a medical doctor. Rick is not a medical doctor. We’re just telling you what we know. Has worked for a lot of people. And I am a believer in what John Richardson does with the RNC store, and Rick is affiliated with him.
And I’m telling you, the results coming out of this are amazing. But do your own research. But I hope in this show we’ve given you some hope that if you think that if your little voice inside of you is saying chemo is not the answer, I don’t want to go down that path. Okay, you have an option to start pursuing here to look at. And that’s, that’s what I wanted to do in this show. The RNC store dot com. And you want the discount you got to put in Dave. And I’ve been helping John promote this for a couple of years now, and I really believe in what he’s doing, and I’m hoping he’ll draw the attention of Bobby Kennedy.
I’m. I’ve got someone who talks to the Trump people, and it’s a shame I didn’t start this sooner. I was, I spoke a couple of times on Clay Clark’s tours, and the Trump kids were there. General Flynn, who I got to meet, know a little bit. They were there. I, I wish I had that now available now because I’d be talking about stuff like this to get to Bobby Kennedy, but I do have some connections with people that know the Trump people, and, and I’ve been pushing this kind of thing to them. And I know Bobby’s got to be aware of these approaches.
He has to be. Well, he is. In fact, John was scheduled to have Bobby Kennedy on his podcast, and then you remember when his. I think it was his mother got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that canceled that day. And then afterwards, the, you know, the whirlwind started around him. Oh, yeah, yeah. John has never been able to get him rebooked, but they do know about each other. It just. But, you know, usually a third party that comes in and goes, hey, you got to get this guy. He’s really. That’s what usually stirs the pot. Well, I like what he’s doing with the red dye.
Okay, let’s don’t stop there. And I’m warning all of us, watch out for the court challenges, because if they’re going to do it trump with immigration and spending money in the executive branch, they’re going to do it to alternative health care, too. So we have a battle ahead of us. Rick, I congratulate you for your stubbornness because I’ve kind of been where you’ve been, but not with cancer. And it takes a degree of internal stubbornness to get through that and do what you know is right. So I appreciate that about you, and I respect what you guys are doing at the RNC store.
It’s absolutely fantastic stuff. And to our audience, you have another option now. And I hope that we’ve given you some hope and you can walk away from this saying, okay, I need to look at some other things maybe in addition to what my doctor’s telling me. Rick, thanks so much for joining us here on the Common Sense Show. Great to meet you and love to have you back sometime. Thank you, Dave. Appreciate you. Take care.
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