How Massive Fraud Is Being Laundered Through the System

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That’s the propaganda thing. So let’s dissect that for just a minute. Venezuela is the source for the importation. I’m sorry, they are exporting terrorism to the United States. They are exporting arguably weapons of mass destruction to the United States in the form of drugs like fentanyl. I think it was genius to label that a weapon of mass destruction because it is. Okay. You’ve also got international terrorism being funded by the sales of oil. You’ve got property that was confiscated from the United States from, from United States businesses and contracts that were severed that the America had already put up the payment for, for oil and all that.

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Go to sarahwestall.com under shop remember to use the code Sarah to save 10%. Welcome to business Game changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have Senator Mark Fincham joining the program. He probably became nationally known when he was running for Secretary of State under Carrie Lake when she was running for governor. And then he was, you know, in the Arizona Congress before. Then he re ran as a senator for Arizona and won his seat again. And he has continued to look at the election fraud that was going on in Arizona. But he also has been able to tie it to much bigger operations on not only fraud, but money laundering.

And he’s laying out what kind of laundering of money is going on and how there are members of government who are involved in this massive laundering campaign. How this is an operation that is bigger than just Arizona, but it’s a countrywide wide kind of situation. And it shares how the operation, how the laundering of money, business operation actually functions as a business model and as a power model to, you know, gain power and to overthrow the United States and turn us into a different form of government. You know, he’s claiming that it’s a Marxist move, probably more of a globalist, maybe Marxist, but a globalist domination, worldwide kind of thing.

It’s. He believes that the BRICS nations are behind it. He’s going to lay out his case. We also talk about Venezuela and I bring up Greenland asking questions. He doesn’t have answers to all that, but we have, we have a really good conversation about it and how you can critically think and ask questions so that you can understand where things are going. He is not something that everybody who watches my show is going to agree with. But that’s not the point. The point is, is to ask the questions. And I believe that everybod in this country is against fraud.

Right. And I think that those who are for fraud for these cases are just not getting what I mean. It makes no sense. And so many of the people that are fighting to maintain and protect the fraudsters are also claiming to be for the downtrodden and for, you know, they claim it’s a class struggle. But the people funding this are the most wealthiest billionaires in the world. And so their side of the downtrodden is siding with the wealthiest in the world. There is a disconnect here that I don’t think the people who are supporting this really understand what’s behind what they’re doing.

Otherwise they wouldn’t be supporting it. They just don’t know that they’re being manipulated to this level or what’s. It makes no sense. So I hope you listen to this all the way through before I get into that. It is New Year’s, right? It’s a new 20, 26. If you’ve not been the peptides, you need to. I’ve lost £25. Well, probably about £30, actually. But I am getting healthy. I am building muscle, and peptides have helped me a lot. I have a protocol that I used over the last year. It’s the best thing I’ve used ever. It’s amazing.

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Sometimes when I hear people say Senator, I’m like, who are you talking to? Talking to. I really am a public Employee. I know a lot of elected officials don’t have that attitude, but I take great pride in them. Well, excellent. I love that. And it’s probably why you are willing to put your neck on the line and do what’s right in important issues. And what we’re looking at here is you’re from Arizona and you’re looking at the money laundering. You know, Minnesota has been given so much of the press, but there are other states that are equally, if not worse, I would argue Minnesota.

I bet you at the end of the day, percentage wise, might end up being up there. But you know, it’s a smaller budget than Arizona, it’s a smaller budget than New York and California. So the fraud by sheer numbers that we’re looking at at some of these other states are absolutely astronomical and Arizona being one of them, but it crosses over into multiple states. I know because we’ve talked about this. Yeah. Can you talk about what you’re doing? Yeah. So I’ll preface this with the eight words that should terrify everybody. We’re from the government and we’re here to help.

Yeah. What I don’t think people, and I wouldn’t expect people to think about this because it’s, it’s just one of those things that it’s, it’s so obvious to somebody who has to work in government. I mean, I don’t have to, people ask me to, but whenever you have a government funded program, which quite frankly, they’re taxpayer funded programs. Government funded programs. That’s right. When you have a taxpayer funded program in the government, it creates the opportunity for fraud. And why is that? Let’s explain why that is. Well, think about it for a moment. You got taxpayer dollars going to pay for something that the taxpayers could do on their own, but for whatever reason they don’t, whether they choose not to or the government has created a monopoly, a government monopoly on doing a thing.

So let’s take for example back in the day when I was much younger, it was the church that took care of the homeless and the, the downtrodden and the, the hungary. But today we have all of these U.S government, state government aid agencies. Yep. All right. Anytime you put a dollar in the hands and, and there are some good people out there, some well intentioned people, and there’s probably some good taxpayer sponsored programs. So I hate to, to use the broad brush of everybody, but on balance, the vast majority of programs are not only available to be used to steal taxpayer dollars like the case in Minnesota.

We have our own case here in Arizona, which we’re trying to prepare now to put into the hands of the U.S. attorney here. But I mean, anytime you’ve got a taxpayer dollar going to a program that the government has, the bureaucracy has empowered a non government organization to do, it’s almost assured that there will be some level of financial abuse within that system. Well, we’ve seen that, right? I mean, that’s. Yeah. And we don’t have the transparency or the tracking to make sure it doesn’t happen. That’s maybe where it is the problem. Yeah, well, it’s built into the system.

You know, I believe it was James Madison said, if, if men were angels, we wouldn’t need government. And it’s a long, it’s a long quotation. But if men were angels, which were not. So there’s this temptation whenever you see money on the books that, oh, well, surely nobody will notice if we do it this way. And that’s what’s going on in Minnesota. I mean, before we get it, isn’t it the same as a family? Like, if you have money in your pocket, there’s people that are responsible and there’s people that have to spend it and in all sorts of bad ways.

Yeah. The difference is this though, Sarah. The consequence in the family environment is very real. You spend money on beer and cigars, you’re not going to have money for macaroni and cheese. Yep. It’s that simple. And literally the, you know, as Harry Truman said, the buck stops here. Well, the buck stops at the family. Because if, if we stop and think about this for just a moment, it’s the taxpayers who furnish the money to government to spend this money. Well, although the federal government just prints money like it’s going out of style, the picture I’m trying to paint here is that the taxpayers are on the hook for paying for the bills that the government runs up, that the bureaucracy runs up.

Well, that’s why people are tired of paying their taxes. I mean, there’s a huge movement saying, I don’t want to pay my taxes because you guys are taking this tax money and you’re spending it in ways that are on. You’re stealing it. It’s like, who’s stupid enough to give you money if you’re just going to steal it? So you have two different spheres of government. You have the federal sphere and you have the state sphere. The federal government, once it crossed the Rubicon of a trillion dollars in debt, there was no going back. Now we’re up at what, $30 trillion? There is no way that that is ever going to be paid off and everybody knows it, Congress knows it.

So they are just, hey, you know What? Let’s give USAID $100 billion to weaponize against the American people so they’ll sit down and shut up and we can do what we want to do. That’s what that’s all about. Okay, and let me ask you, do you think most of the propaganda that we’re seeing that’s brainwashing the people is coming through USAID or organizations like that funding propaganda online and everywhere? Well, not anymore. USA ID has been. Oh, absolutely. In fact, every penny. USAID was originally intended when it was first stood up to broadcast the message of the American way of life and why America is that city on the Hill, that dreamboat of a city, that dream boat of a country, and we still are.

To vast, vast numbers of people across the planet, America is the place to go. That’s why we had so many people come here from other countries. We are a generous people. We are benefactors to all over the world. However, when you have organizations like a rogue CIA that weaponized propaganda, they, I think they realized that the American people had had a gut full and instead of pointing that outward, they turned it around and pointed it inward and basically said this whole notion of we the people, nah, not so much anymore. It’s we the bureaucrats, it’s we the intelligence community.

And we’re kind of busy lining our own pockets. And, you know, this, this Orange man bad guy, he got in the way of our cash flow, so we had to try and kill him. More than once they tried to kill him. And that’s the response that you get from organization like Black Lives Matter to this. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but originally when Black Lives Matter was stood up, if you clicked on their donation link, it went right to the Democrat Party. Oh, I remember that. I, I, because I did that, I went to the Democratic Party and it also had values after that.

Then, then they had a front page and then the value, values said to deconstruct the, the family unit. I mean, they, they were just so blatantly not about black people. Yeah, it’s, it’s when we saw this back with LBJ and the Great Society and what happened, we had the disintegration of the black family. Yeah, they didn’t, it’s, it’s not what they claim to be. And that’s right. Sad. It’s, that’s right. So you now have, and that’s basically, that’s what Marxism is. They. Marxism wants government to replace God. It wants government to be the God. Okay, so we’re now fighting an insurgency.

It’s a Marxist insurgency. Fortunately, USAID is gone, but the remnants of it are still out there. Excuse me. And I mean we just saw the takedown of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, npr, pbs, all of those because they had become so radicalized. It was all propaganda. Well, I, I listened to that. I just want to say I, I listen to it. It’s still airing non stop in Minnesota. I don’t know what you mean by takedown. So understand that. Well, the federal government funding. Yes. And there’s no, that was the takedown. And that there’s no justification. Because I listen, I like to listen to all.

I like to know where people are coming from. Right. Because you can’t be informed unless you understand where they’re coming from. That’s super important. And so I listen to them and I’m like, wow. I like their presentation better because I don’t like the fighting and the BS sometimes that I see on the other side. It’s always like this warrior behavior. I don’t like that. But I can read through like 30% of it is propaganda. And that bothers me too. So I have to like, okay. And I represent a lot of people out there. I, I’m pretty sure, yeah, they want to present the, the softer, gentler face of Marxism.

Yeah, we may, we may get our way by the muzzle of a gun, but it’s going to be a softer, gentler way. Well, it’s just that they presenting all the issues in a way that is lacking the context and they make it sound. So they present in a way that somebody who’s more educated. If you went to a bunch of schools, they would prefer that method. Right. They don’t like, they want a more intellectual conversation. But then in the intellectual conversation they fail to talk about. They only show you a slice and then they present it in a way that’s more caring and more sophisticated.

But they only, they missed out on all this other stuff that would give you a whole nother perspective on what they’re talking about. That’s, that’s propaganda and that’s, they’re really good at it. So there’s no bull here. Okay. I don’t put up bs and what we see with many organizations in the public sphere is they try and wrap propaganda as, oh no, you know, the, the, the election deniers. They use the lexicon of New York Times and Washington Post and all of the, you Know the Atlanta Journal Constitution, all of these extreme left views which, by the way, woke you go broke.

They’re going broke. The legacy media is imploding. That’s one of the reasons my friend@your news.com, he’s hired 50,000 journalists. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Your news.com. that’s Sam. Yeah. Sam’s got, he’s got some of the best journalists on the planet now working for him because they had such a gut full of what they were told to write by editorial people, even though they’re journalists. So we shot what we saw is the substitution of journalism with editorialism, not grounded in fact, but promoting a particular point of view. Well, and the problem I had. And I want to. You talked about election deniers.

That was an adjective. They would. You. They, they still do today. They add it to every single time they do this, the reporting on it. Yeah. And so they’re planting in your mind that anybody that questions the election is election denier six. They do the same thing with January 6th. All right, so that is fifth generation warfare. Yeah, it is. It’s the battle for the mind. This, this, this is a fantastic series of books written by, by my good friend Boone Taylor, who’s. Or I’m sorry, Boone Cutler, who has recently passed away, and General Michael Flynn.

This is the textbook on how to spot and counter propaganda. And the purpose of propaganda is to divide us. So I have a response for anybody. And by the way, Election Denier came about from what I’m told, as a result of the November 30, 2020 ad hoc committee hearing that I convened as a state representative for the Maricopa county election. It was an inquest, and we took ten and a half hours of testimony about what happened. And the next thing you know, in the AP style guide, anytime you spoke of a conservative who questioned the election, you had to use the term election denier.

Now we’ve actually turned that on its head. We’re not election deniers. I never denied that there was an election. We are, however, fraud affirmers. Fraud affirmers. That’s the tech. Well, it’s kind of like truthers. They try to weaponize truthers, and then everybody’s like, okay, I’m a truther. It didn’t work because it was like, I’ll be that. And so they learned from that. And it’s kind of like when Hillary Clinton called us all deplorables. The next thing you know, 300,000 T shirts are flying off the shelves. I’m a deplorable. Yeah. It doesn’t always work. Yeah, there’s these things that happen where they try to create buzzwords.

For example, no kings. All right, let’s just use that. That’s another propaganda move, by the way. Of course. It’s part of the Color Revolution thing. I find it very interesting that the people paying for no Kings are kings. Well, I mean, in the sense of their multi billionaires. Yes, yes. You’ve got the billionaire class all around the world that doesn’t like Donald Trump because he’s screwing with their cash flow. That’s right. That’s who’s behind it. They like to claim that it’s a class warfare, but they’re being funded by the upper class. Right. And what is that? Is that their ability to think through what it is? They’re just.

They’re manipulating the easiest people to manipulate. I mean, it’s easier to manipulate people than to inform them, right? Yeah. The sad truth, but you inform them with what you want them to know. That’s what they’re doing. But that’s manipulation. I think that’s manipulation. It is. Manipulation is developing critical thinking system skills, giving them all the information you possibly can so that they can critically think on their own. Well, no, I would disagree a little bit. I think that when you develop critical thinking skills, you’re actually developing the skill of discernment. That’s right. Now, not everybody is blessed with the skill of discernment.

Some people comes by them naturally, then other people. It takes a while. Here I am, 68 years old, and I’d like to think in the last 10, 15 years, I’ve really sharpened my ability to discern BS from legitimate. So here’s an example. The 2022 election where Carrie Lake and I were running, Kerry was running for governor. I was running for the Secretary of State, Lieutenant Governor position. And to bring this full circle to public broadcasting, in Phoenix, there’s a show called Horizons, which is the public broadcasting. Now, the whole point of public broadcasting was to try and bring the.

The right together with the left and try to winnow down truth and accurate information. Do the best you can at giving a balanced approach so that people can. Yeah, that. That’s admirable, by the way, but go ahead. It is. When it’s actually done. That’s right. Okay. So we have this hosted. I’m not sure what it was. It was. It was where the Democrat candidate and the Republican candidate, the. The two nominees from the two major parties were on stage with two individuals from Horizon. It was billed as a. A debate, but I Think it was more like a discussion.

And within about 60 seconds, it was three on one throughout the entire hour. In fact, so much so that even Democrats got pissed off because they. It was so blatant that the two clowns that were supposed to be moderators were actually advocates for the opposition. They did it, too. They got too brazen. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, now it’s not that. They. They had an agenda that they wanted to push and they knew that they had to do certain things. And quite frankly, here’s. We already know now with everything that we’ve learned in the fullness of time, why they could not abide by Carrie Lake, Mark Fincham and Abe Hammaday being in office.

Office. They knew that the governor would give the Secretary of State top cover, that Mark Fincham would probably do an audit of the election software that was running on machines in Arizona. And then when we found the nefarious code which is embedded in it and the endpoint access that occurred, now there’s people who are going to say, oh, FinJam’s crazy again and he’s talking about flipping votes. Okay, hard news. We’ve got the receipts. Just a quick break from the program. I need to share with you an urgent manner about scam gold IRAs and the important need to make sure that you’re working with a trusted company in the precious metals space.

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We can help you and there’s no shame. Go to sarahwestall.com milesfranklin fill out that form, and we will help you get your life savings back. Well, but here, here’s the deal, Mark. If they aren’t willing to actually let people look at the software, who is the one that should be defending themselves? It shouldn’t be you. If they’re not allowing us to look at the software, it’s you that should be defending yourself. Obvious. That’s critical thinking skills. Come on now, Sarah, stop. It’s proprietary. I. Well, I know, but that’s thinking. Yeah, that’s the argument they use. I know, but that’s like they make themselves illegitimate because they won’t let us look at it.

And it should be transparent when we’re talking about voting software. Give me a break. There’s nothing that sophisticated about voting software that should. I have a computer science background. It’s pretty state straightforward math. If the math isn’t right and you’re screwing with it, that’s what we need to see. And it doesn’t have to be proprietary. Yeah. What we first discovered November 30, 2020 was something called fractional tabulation. Yep. Okay, wait a minute. That’s an oxymoron. If you’re tabulating, it’s ones and zeros. If you’re calculating it’s decimals, it’s, it’s a very. So how do you have, here’s the punchline.

How do you have in one case a 0.96 vote and in another a 10, 4. You don’t, you don’t. It’s ones and zeros. Okay. And that’s one of the things that we found in the first few hours of testimony. Yeah, you just don’t. Okay. So that’s fraud. And then they tried to. It’s amazing how this is why. It’s fifth generation warfare. I did a whole series on it too. And, and with Bryonyon and It was a 10 part series where I looked at it from all sorts of different angles. Military experts also on fifth generation and mind control because there’s more to it than just, you know, and the military just, they want to bypass the military and go directly to the people and control people.

But regardless, you are also. I mean I could do a whole hour on this or we could do a whole hour on this topic. But I want to talk about the fraud that you’re seeing in Arizona. That’s taking it to a whole nother level. I mean we, it, it’s already been, that level has already been there for a long time. It’s just now, hey, people, we really need to see show you how bad this is. Yeah. So there are people that just cannot bring themselves to believe that we’ve had election tampering since the election after George Washington.

Yeah, it’s, it’s a reality. Right. So so don’t say, oh, this is the first time ever. No. And you, you can’t. Our elections are perfect. We’re the gold standard. Anytime you hear that bs, you know that they’re, they’re running dogs for the people who are Actually covering up what’s going on. So what we’ve got in Arizona actually is a nationwide problem. Our research has been presented to the Department of Justice. Yes, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, irs, Criminal hsi, the Homeland Security Investigations, there’s a few other law enforcement organizations. I’m sure that I’m missing somebody. So fellows, please don’t take it personal.

We presented the information on the how to, how it’s being done and we were able to identify a significant number of individuals that are engaged in the practice. No wonder the Democrats have got hundreds of billions of dollars to engage in election tampering. There’s money that’s flowing in from probably China, Iran, North Korea, Russia and maybe even Brazil. The brics nations that want to disrupt America’s election system. They, they want to get rid of the whole America first agenda. This is interfering with their New World Order because they can’t have a strong America and have a New World Order because as long as there’s an alternative.

That’s the funny thing about Marxism. Marxism cannot stand have an alternative that it has to compete with. Think about that for a minute. I mean it’s, it makes perfect sense when you stop and think, okay, who’s actually objecting to making America great again? It’s the media that is controlled by the very same people that would have you believe propaganda is news. So now we’ve got an organization, the Election Fairness Institute that engages in research projects. If people want to know more about our organization, it’s go efi.org we don’t accept government contracts. I’m the executive director there, so I wear two hats, State senator and executive director.

But we’re eyeball deep in this stuff. And we have mapped where the money’s coming from, how they’re doing it with real estate and other devices, where the money is probably going to. But because we’re a private enterprise, a 501C3. So if people want to make a contribution, we’re welcome. We don’t have access to some of the investigative tools that law enforcement has, particularly things like FinCEN. FinCEN is the organization that tracks large contributions. Large, not contributions, large, large deposits in banks. So if you’ve ever had a check, it used to be 10,000, now it’s 5,000. If you have a check or a deposit over $4,999.99, you have to fill out a KYC AML let’s know your customer anti money laundering document that goes with that deposit.

And the bank is supposed to notify the federal government Sarah Westfall just put five grand into the bank and that’s going to go in your savings account and perhaps it’ll sit there and age for 60 days and then they no longer pay attention to it. Well, imagine buying a house that’s worth $300,000. And there is a wire that comes into the escrow company for your $300,000 house on the same day you buy it. Also for $300 million. Yep. But there’s no bank. You know, the, the mortgage that you got for your $325,000 house, you got a $300,000 note from Pick a bank.

I don’t want to say any names because I don’t want to disparage the banks. They have a lot more money than I do and I don’t want to get sued. So you have the bank deposits the money into escrow, the escrow officer then transmits the money to the seller, and you got your house. Well, at the same time, Sarah Westfall, who sits on the board of directors of act green, a $300 million deposit comes in to the same escrow officer, but there’s, there’s no bank associated with it. That’s what they call a hard money loan. It’s a hard money deposit into escrow.

When escrow closes, the money goes someplace because we’re not law enforcement, we don’t know where it goes. But we have seen this time and time and time and time again. So they just laundered 300 thousands of times. They just laundered $300 million is what they did. Yeah. Through the escrow process for a property. And is it mostly, almost always through mortgage type situations? Oh, no, no. This is just, this is just one of the scams. What, what other? You know, the mortgage one makes sense. And that’s what people hear about the. All the time. What other ways? And I know the daycare centers is what they’re doing in Minnesota.

Right. And all the autism centers and all that stuff. All the charity type organizations. What other methods are they using to, to launder money? I mean, every way they can, right? Yeah. So here’s one that was reported to my office as a state senator two weeks ago. And it’s kind of complicated, but I’ll give you the short version. So you have somebody who is seeking treatment for drug dependency, or we’ll say substance abuse dependency, and they are on what’s called access, it’s the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System. Ahcccs. Okay. It doesn’t offer health care and it doesn’t contain Cost.

There’s no truth in the name, but it pays insurance money to providers. Well, there’s a handful of providers that have figured out that the Marketplace insurance pays a whole heck of a lot more money than Access does. So you have Bob Smith comes in, says, hey, I need help with my heroin addiction. Okay, great. We need to have your id, your Social Security card, all of your information. Fill out this, this intake form. And then somebody goes in the back office, picks up the phone and calls Access and says, hey, I want off Access. Then they turn around and they call the Marketplace and say, I want to get insurance to cover my addiction problem.

Okay, great. Welcome. It’s going to cost you 40 bucks. Well, do you take a credit card, which is actually a gift card. They pay for the first month, and the next day they start drawing $1,300 a day. I’m not kidding you. No, I know you’re not. And that’s compared to 300. Yes. There are hundreds of providers who have popped up like mushrooms all over Arizona. We know that this is all over the United States because bad guys love sharing their secrets with other bad guys. It’s so crazy. And you know what? The thing is, is they, that’s why the taxpayers are like, I don’t want to pay my taxes so that you can allow them to steal it.

And then the other thing that bugs me, npr, you know, because I listen to them. They sit and talk for the whole time. They, they’ll have a whole show was on all these people who are downtrodden because they’re taking. They don’t have the resources to pay for these people and who are out on the streets or homeless or who really need help. Meanwhile, 90% of those resources are being stolen. And then they’re fighting the people who are trying to uncover the resources being stolen. It’s like, what kind of clown world are we in? This is going to sound like an ultra simple solution, but Occam’s razor, the simplest solution is almost always the right solution.

How about we return that responsibility to the churches, to the faith community, and instead of taxing people into oblivion, we stop taxing them and we have the money stay in their pockets. Nobody spends money more effectively and more efficiently than the person who actually has to earn it. Federal government does not create jobs. It actually is a drag on the economy. So if you eliminate jobs, here’s a grand example. Department of Education. They don’t educate, they regulate. We’ve been told by teachers, I love teaching, but I hate having to comply with all of the insane regulations that the Department of Education has pushed upon the school.

I spend a third of my day in regulatory compliance as opposed to teaching. Great. How about we just leave that money with the school instead of sending it to the Department of Education to send to the school? I could never understand. For example, why do you get a dollar rebate on a box of cereal for four bucks? How about you just charge three bucks for the box of cereal? That’s because a certain percentage of people aren’t going to send it in. And then you save money. I know, but. But I know. I know why. It just.

It’s a rhetorical question. I know it’s just this. Okay, but let’s talk about the churches, because what happened? And maybe I’m wrong and maybe we need an educational process here. The reason why government started doing it is because there’s people are involved. And so churches weren’t perfect either. And so then they use that as an excuse to get the government to do it. But there could be a way to have churches do it. Religious, you know, the, the faith community, where. The faith community is a broad community. Right. It. Even if, if this particular faith doesn’t meet your criteria, there’s all sorts of.

You know, that’s why the Quakers were formed back in the day. Right. Right. They believed in complete equality and they, they had a dip. That’s so much of our entire constitution and our equality and all that came from them. So. But they weren’t. There’s all sorts of things that could work. Go ahead. Here’s part of the problem. Okay, so, for example, the Salvation Army. Great organization. All right. But if you’re going to stay to Salvation army shelter, you can’t drink tonight. You can’t use your drugs while you’re on the property. So if you’ve got the faith element that’s involved in this, people really do have to change their behavior and they don’t want to.

That’s a big part of it, I would think. So you’ve got a government that panders to the people who want to live their lifestyle the way they want to, but they don’t want to have to pay for the consequences. But. Okay, and this is where I push back to that. The government. And another reason why the government did it is because there’s some bad actors who liked to keep the drug trade going and they didn’t want. If you, if, if they are in control of it, the drug trade can flourish more especially if the people who are involved in the drug trade decide they want to want Run for office or they’re, they’re funding their favorite political candidate.

Yeah. Let’s be honest. That’s how it works. Yeah. Excuse me. I kind of got this idea. I’m a huge fan of Victor Davis Hands, and as I’m listening to his last few podcasts before he went in for his medical treatment, it occurs to me that we’re talking about the greatest threats to humanity. Yep. And this is so anti Mises and Hayek. I’m an Austrian economics guy. Okay. But the greatest threat to humanity, cash flow. Because every, and I’ll qualify it, every bad guy out there is focused on one thing, cash flow. I would even say a lot of good people are too, but go ahead.

Well, yeah, so, I mean, the, the root of all evil is the love of money. Okay. Yep. Now, yes, I, I am a guy who is focused on cash flow. It’s how I pay my bills. But when I see the threat to humanity is cash flow, it’s the people who are misusing it, it’s the drug dealers, it’s the human traffickers, it’s the, the thieves who like to take public assets and use them for their own purposes, namely stealing. Okay. Or manipulation or whatever else they’re trying to do. Yeah. So you look at, let’s look at Venezuela for a moment.

Okay. So we just had a little action, little fracas down in Venezuela. Most people don’t know that two decades ago, Venezuela was perhaps one of the most affluent South American nations out there. Argentina now apparently has taken that over because Melee is a genius. But what happened, you have Marxism come in and confiscate everything from everybody and keep it to themselves. Okay. So now you got the Venezuelan people are saying we kind of like what President Trump just did. He kicked out a dictator and we want to go back to the days of prosperity. So, you know, I, I, I kind of chuckle a little bit.

As long as we’re having a free form conversation about all things. They’re saying that President Trump is engaged in the Monroe Doctrine. I, I, I would hate, I, I think it’s, he’s, he’s in, engaged in the prosperity doctor. His goal is not to control, but to return power to the people so that they can prosper. But was it our job here? This, this is one thing I don’t think, I think Venezuela has more going on than just that, because it’s not our job to go in and fix a country’s. I mean, if that was our job, we’d go in a lot of other places besides Venezuela.

No this is more going on there. Yeah, the mission was not to fix Venezuela. That, that’s a good propaganda thing, but it’s not the reason. Yeah, no, that, you’re right. That’s the propaganda thing. So let’s dissect that for just a minute. Venezuela is the source for the import. I’m sorry, they are exporting terrorism to the United States. They are exporting arguably weapons of mass destruction to the United States in the form of drugs like fentanyl. I think it was genius to label that a weapon of mass destruction because it is. Okay. You’ve also got international terrorism being funded by the sales of oil.

You’ve got property that was confiscated from the United States, from United States businesses and contracts that were severed that the America had already put up the, the payment for, for oil and all that. So you know, you’ve got the economic thing going on. So you now you’ve got a government that they’re import or they’re exporting all kinds of bad juju to not just the United States, but all over the world and they’re influencing their neighbors and they now have deployed trend organizations like that to American. So, all right, in other words, they want to go into fifth generation warfare and guerrilla warfare with the United States.

So basically go ahead. Because the new World Order needs to have soldiers. See, it’s all connected. So, so the, you’re saying that the administration saw them as a risk to our sovereignty, to our way of life, and that it wasn’t just. It’s nice to say that Maduro was so bad the people themselves don’t want them. Okay, that’s fine, but that’s not, I mean anybody, a thinking person who’s been studying this for a while knows that’s not the reason. But you’re saying that because of their chaotic environment, their, their communistic, their Marxist views, the way they were managing things, the corruption they were having there, they were breeding this anti US sentiment that was being exploited everywhere and shipped out everywhere and then harming our way of life.

And that that was an attack on us and we needed to take care of it. That’s the argument. Right. It’s a fine difference. What I’m trying to communicate is the people are celebrating his ouster. It’s a little bit different than the way you framed it. They’re celebrating somebody coming to help them. Okay, now, but we wouldn’t help anybody though unless there was a, something else going on. But go. Unless there’s a state interest there. Absolutely. So not only do we have cutting off drugs Cutting off human trafficking, cutting off sanctioned oil flow. We also have cutting off tampering in elections.

Venezuela was the source of smartmatic software, which has now been identified. I think it’s up to 72 nations have had their elections tampered with using these products. CIA. Yeah. Well, I just posted a thing from CIA Gate, which is a deep investigation into that. Yeah, yeah. You know what? So you go to the head of this, you know, the fish, fish rots from the head. Okay, so you go to the head of the snake, head of the fish, and you take that out. To reconstruct a nation that should be friendly to the United States should not be.

Election tampering by another sovereign is an act of war. That is, People need to remember that. Okay, so now taking out just the leader, is that because obviously the administration is still in place. So did they for, you know, everybody but the leader now, are they just sending a message to the other people, Administration, you guys better freaking not do this. And they did alliances, they, they had to have prepped it, had communication with other people in the administration and said, we’re going to take this guy out and we expect you to play ball. Is that really what’s happening behind the scenes? No, I doubt it.

So then what’s happened? Why did they take up the rest? What’s going on? It’s, it’s a deeper apprehension strategy than just taking one guy out. So you think that there’s more operations coming here. There’s, there are other individuals who probably their career is over. They’ll be ejected from the military or the Venezuela State Department or the government apparatus. Yes, but they, but it looks like they were talking to people in high levels of their political administration. Right. There’s insiders cooperating because otherwise it’s like, yes, no, that’s that. Okay, so I think you’re right. The, the US has been very transparent.

Secretary of State Rubio has been very transparent. Look, we’re, we’re not in here to replace everybody. It’s your government. We took out the head of your government because of his corruption. Cowboy up. Who’s the next one in line? And if a, a viable government can be built around a leader from that nation, we’re happy to help you, but don’t stab us in the back. So now that we have also probably gotten it. Well, I know for a fact we’ve gotten our hands on the individuals that did the programming for election tampering. The software, root software itself.

I’m pretty sure that Mr. Maduro is going to be singing like A songbird and talking about. Because he’s right now he wants to get, they want to get the information about what elections do you have personal knowledge that you tampered in and how long has this been going on? How have you accomplished it? Where have you accomplished. You think he’ll sing? I think he’s going to sing like a songbird. Because think about that. Here’s just one, one scenario. Him and his wife both have been arrested. All right, do you guys want to live together at a country club prison or do you want to live separately at opposite ends of the country in maximum security? A quick break to share with you this wonderful product called Masterpiece.

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Because everything you’re saying, it’s like, okay, that, that. And we have actors in our country too. I’m glad to deal with. So now we got a situation where the money flow has been. The spigot’s been turned off in a lot of different places. Now do we have more to do? Oh, yeah, we got a lot to do. Well, I think the fight just started. Oh, yeah, the fight just started. And one of the things that we can do to take back control of our election system is what other countries have done, and that is reject the use of electronic calculation and go to paper ballots that are counted by hand at the precinct level.

It’s simple. It’s the most easiest algorithm too. That’s what’s so frustrating. It’s like there’s no magic. It’s like addition. It’s like, come on. It’s like. And there’s, there’s a great little. It’s a meme that hit the Twitter universe here a couple days ago. It’s a, it’s a kid with a ballot box and it says hand counting ballots on election day at the precinct level. So easy a fifth grader can do it. And it really is so easy a fifth grader can do it or a third grader. I mean, it’s just ridiculous. Yeah. Okay, so let’s, let’s talk about Greenland because I want, now that we’re going into geopolitics, what’s going on there? I mean, it’s kind of weird.

It’s like we want to take over Denmark. Is, has control of Greenland, supposedly. I didn’t even know all the background in Greenland. I’m like, oh, I didn’t know Denmark. I thought Greenland was its own sovereign nation. But apparently they’re under Denmark. And now Trump wants to take over Greenland. What is really going on? Because that seems weird. Yeah. I wouldn’t say he wants to take overs, implies that he wants to invade Greenland and take it from somebody. What’s really going on then? I, I think what’s going on. First of all, their location on the globe is strategic.

Pretty important. It’s, it’s even, it’s even more than strategic for the interests of America. It’s like Hawaii in the Pacific. Yeah, kinda. But you’ve also got some resources, natural resources. You know, the left would say, oh, you’re going to exploit their natural resources. No. One person’s exploitation is another person’s harnessing. They have immense geothermal opportunities. There’s a lot to that equation. President Trump, I think, has been offering that up as an option for the people of Greenland. How would you like to become a U.S. territory? Because there are some benefits that go along with that. Not Congress, that’s not a benefit.

But there are benefits that go along with being aligned with being formally recognized as a US territory. Like, for example, Puerto Rico, when. That’s right. Bad things happen in Puerto Rico. Who’s there to help Puerto Rico rebuild? Uncle Sam. So I’m not clued in on all that’s going on with relationship to Greenland, but I do know that there are hotspots all over the world. We’re having a strategic presence so that we don’t have to fly 12 hours to do a mission for something. It’s more like four or five hours or two or three hours. That is very helpful to guarding not just the interests of the United States, but I would say the interests of people.

Freedom loving, liberty loving people all around the. All around the world. Is that our job? I mean that, that kind of stuff isn’t our job. It’s, it’s not, but it’s tangential. Their interests are tangential to ours. And I appreciate the point you’re making. We’re not the policeman of the world, nor should we be. This isn’t about policing. This is about advancing our interests to a limit and bringing other people along with us. So basically it gets back to the thing. If we don’t have this, then we are at risk. I mean, they have to get to that point we are at.

We are. From a state department perspective, we need something like this, otherwise we’re at risk. Why is not having a base there and having a NATO alliance good enough? I’m not read into that. Okay, that’s fair. No, that’s fair. I mean those are the questions I, I would ask is, okay, what. And, and that’s the questions we should be asking. Yeah. I mean, to your point, that’s what a critical thinking populace vox populi. Those are the questions we should be asking our government. You know, Mr. Trump, instead of this inane BS that the reporters all have their hand up, it’s.

And they ask them stupid questions. They do. Mr. Trump, could you explain your. The theory of the case for us to adopt Greenland? Can you lay that out for the American people so that we understand that’s right. Because right now it’s just all propaganda. I want to understand what is the theory behind it for real. I don’t. And that’s why people like me are like, I don’t trust you. Not just him, but I mean I don’t trust anything because it’s like I can tell when I’m hearing propaganda versus the real reasons. I want the real reasons because that’s bullshit reasons.

Yeah. You know what I’m saying? Yeah. So I think that to get back on track with the money, money laundering thing, which is extremely important, we have U. S. Attorneys who have been briefed, we have some who are either planning to adopt or are taking action to adopt cases in multiple locations around the country. And what that means is they’re going to go after somebody or a group of somebodies. Scottsdale, Arizona is the center of the universe for a lot of that. We’ve got some Information that we’ll be presenting to the U.S. attorney for the District of Arizona here in the not too distant future.

But the Election Fairness Institute, you know, we, we study process and those inputs and outputs of the process. When we see massive amounts of money going into a political actor, that’s the kind of thing that makes you go, huh, that’s right. So, you know, when I first ran for office, my first election I think was like $48,000 to run the campaign. Now they’re up in the 230, 240, $250,000 range. We didn’t have that much inflation over 12 years. This is now a fight for power and a fight of freedom loving folks against Marxism. That’s, we’re realizing that the lower level offices, not just the president, not just the senators, school board, town council, everything, and they, and those were right for picking.

If we just put some money into this, we’ll get all these school councils, we’ll get all these judgeships, we’ll get all these. Because nobody’s really making an effort. They’re doing it like you were at first. You know, being a state senator, it really didn’t have a huge budget because. But that’s where all this power is at, right? And then they, so here’s another thing that I, it causes me great consternation. They call these races nonpartisan. School board needs to be nonpartisan because education is a non, is a bipartisan issue. It should. No. Same with town council, same with county boards of supervisors.

I want to know what is the political philosophy that the individual who is running for office subscribes to? Are you a free spending Democrat? Are you a hardcore constitutional conservative? Are you a fiscal spendthrift? I want to know where your political stand is, because if, if I don’t have confidence in where you’re coming from politically, how am I supposed to have confidence enough to vote for you now in most cases, for example, in Arizona, nonpartisan races, the only thing that’s nonpartisan about them is how they appear on the ballot. It doesn’t say Republican or Democrat, it just has your name.

Well, and that’s, that’s like hiding what you are. But I gotta tell you, you know, that’s exactly the point I was trying to make. They’re hiding behind that. We’ve got to stop that. That’s a fair criticism. I do know that like in my area where some of the people who decided, you know, they’re just going to run as nonpartisan, like my county has the lowest taxes in the state, which is Incredible. One of the lowest. I’m in Minnesota, we have one of the lowest taxes in the state, in the country. And the person who our county commissioner is, he was a Democrat and now he’s running it kind of like you would have.

So I, I kind of like what a Republican kind of would in a lot of other areas. So you can truly become a nonpartisan in the way you manage things if that’s your goal and you have to be forced into this Republican Democrat Party system. And a lot of times people aren’t, they just want to look at issues. But I get your point. If you are about low taxes giving the power back to the people, you should be telling people that. Once again, if men were angels, you’re right, you’re right. We wouldn’t need government. Okay, So I, I think that it’s, it’s probably the best way to hide your true agenda by running as a non partisan candidate.

Because what you’re saying is I’m for sale. Now that’s a, that’s a cynical way to put it. But if you’re truly nonpartisan, I’m going to listen to everybody. No, you’re not. You have personal, you have a personal agenda. And don’t be afraid. I think that that’s one of the reasons why I’m as popular as I am. My response is if you disagree with me, don’t vote for me. You know, I love, because I don’t want you to be disappointed with what. But I love that. But I kind of would go, this is a great conversation. I would say that I’m non partisan in, in a lot of areas because sometimes I agree on one side something but I could be very open.

I like smaller government. I like more freedom. I like, that’s kind of where I, my whole perspective, perspective is I like to give people as much ability over their own lives as possible. Okay, that’s my whole bias. But sometimes it’s not always the Republicans that are, are in that camp. Although more often than not it’s them, but not all the time. So I, I agree with you and I disagree with you. You’re a conservative, but you’re an issues voter. You’re not a party line voter just like me. Okay, I’m probably, I don’t know, 80% Republican, 10% independent.

And I’ve got just enough space in there to, you know, to work with the other side. Right, that’s, that’s kind of a Democrat sounding thing. But I understand your point. I mean, you’ve got to have that, that space to appreciate the colleagues that you have to work with that don’t necessarily agree with you. But then all of a sudden, I mean, here’s a grand example. I’ve been on the war path for the last six months with the family courts in Arizona. What they are doing to families is absolutely evil. And I’m making it my business to try and cut their budget by 30% to get their attention and say, look, we’re either going to do away with you or you’re going to start following the flipping law.

You are not there to fix families. There’s a reason they’re divorced. You are there for the best interest of the child, not to line the pockets of lawyers and allied health care workers and all of the various professionals that get paid under what, a court order. What you’re doing is you’re stealing money from the care, feeding and rearing of children, and you should be damned ashamed of yourselves. Absolutely. Okay, so on our committee, we had Republicans and Democrats. The Democrat members are appalled at what’s going on, but they’re kind of caught in a. A bit of a conundrum because they love the courts and they, they love tinkering with families, but at the same time, they see the damage that’s being done by the courts tinkering with families.

So it’s, it’s no issue. In my experience at the legislature has been so complicated as this one, because there are people that just, they really need to have a judge and they need to have mediation. But, you know, there’s some really good family court judges out there who basically, instead of allowing attorneys to inflame the passions of one side or another and run up the bill, they’re, okay, you have 60 days to come to a resolution or we’re going to go to trial. They just get. And it’s not going to work well for you. And sometimes they realize that these two sides are just gonna, like you said, the attorneys create the issues to make more money instead of just, let’s just get it done and it’s all billable hours.

Yeah, yeah, that’s exactly right. But. So that’s why I say I. And I, I just really think a lot of people, if we just looked at the issues and we got rid of some of those labels, that’s the flip side of it. I get what you’re saying, but if you just. Okay, if those Democrats that didn’t feel obligated to be a Democrat at that point, then they would probably. So I think so many issues, if we’ve got rid of that just, let’s just solve the issue. I think we’d be able to solve a lot more problems.

I think that’s right. Yeah. So I get so I, I, that’s, there’s always a pro and a con to everything. You are awesome. I love talking to you. This is a really good conversation. This is exactly the kind of conversations we need to be having. Honestly, we need more of this. So thank you so much. Where again, can people follow you and learn more about the work that you’re doing uncovering fraud and working with families and everything that you’re doing, which sounds great. Yeah. There’s a couple things they can do. So first of all, if they, if they want to visit the Election Fairness Institute website and see what we do, go efi.org we’re 501c3 if folks want to read some of my, my thoughts, I try to put out a substack article once a week.

It’s markfinchem.substack.com it’s there is a free version and if people want to get past the paywall and see some of the deeper thoughts, I’m, yeah, I do have deep thoughts once in a while. I’m, I’m, you get a, you get a free couple of paid views. But also if folks were about to start the legislative session in Arizona and if they want to see what’s going on in the legislature, if they go to azledgeleg.gov they’ll be able to watch hearings real time that are happening with their government. I think that’s so important. That is absolutely. And then I guess the, the last thing I would say is, you know, with, with the Election Fairness Institute, we have a number of projects that are going on right now.

The biggest one is the money laundering research project that takes money and we, by the grace of God, we make payroll every other week. And you know, we don’t or people don’t make a lot of money, but they are dedicated to free and fair elections. So give us a look. Go efi.org thank you very much, Sarah. It’s been a pleasure. I really appreciate it. Sa.
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