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Summary
➡ The article discusses the global shift away from the debt-based financial system dominated by the United States and institutions like the IMF and World Bank. It highlights the emergence of BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) as an alternative, offering resource-based systems like gold-backed currencies. The article also criticizes the U.S.’s lack of understanding of other cultures, which has led to strained international relations. Lastly, it suggests that the U.S. needs to adapt and understand what’s important to other nations, rather than expecting them to conform to U.S. norms.
➡ The text discusses the influence of various lobbies, including the Israel lobby, pharmaceutical lobbies, and defense industries, on American politics. It suggests that these groups have more control over the country’s direction than the average American citizen. The text also touches on issues of immigration and the perceived disconnect between the American people and their leaders. It concludes by suggesting that the current political system is not serving the interests of the American people.
➡ The author suggests that the current political climate in Washington D.C. is similar to the French Revolution, with leaders being out of touch with the people. He mentions that people are disengaging from the government and forming separate communities. The author also warns of a potential financial crisis, with experts predicting a collapse worse than the 1929 depression. He concludes by suggesting that such a crisis could lead to a shift in power, similar to the French Revolution.
➡ The text discusses historical events and their parallels to current situations, focusing on the exploitation of the lower classes by the elites, as seen in the French and Russian revolutions. It also talks about a peptide called GHK CU, which has anti-aging benefits. The text further delves into the control of media and financial systems by the same group of elites, and the potential for a system collapse. Lastly, it discusses the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia, criticizing the misinformation spread about the casualties and the actual situation on the ground.
➡ The article discusses the current state of Ukraine and its potential impact on relations between Russia and the U.S. It also criticizes the U.S. military’s reluctance to change and adapt to new warfare strategies, comparing it unfavorably to other countries like Russia. The author argues that this resistance to change is due to a desire to maintain the status quo and financial benefits. The article concludes by emphasizing the importance of merit and the need for radical change in various sectors, including immigration policy.
➡ The speaker believes that education should focus on preparing individuals for employment, rather than pushing everyone towards college. They also argue that industries should be more involved in education, as was the case in Germany. They criticize the current state of politics and defense spending, suggesting that individuals should prepare for potential societal collapse by reducing costs and arming themselves. Lastly, they emphasize the importance of community and self-reliance, rather than waiting for someone else to solve problems.
Transcript
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It he doesn’t pull any punches and you know it. Whether you agree with everything he says or not, it’s, these are important discussions to have and I’m not afraid to have these discussions because they’re important. By not having these discussions, we accomplish nothing. And you know, it’s, it’s dumb not to have these discussions. All you do is throw them under the rug. They fester and become bigger and you don’t actually accomplish things. So ignoring it is, is just. But before I get into that, there’s two things that I want to remind you of. First, I have a free webinar coming up this Thursday at 7pm with the meters and it will be on privacy and surveillance.
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I don’t know if bitcoin coins outside the system or not, but gold is something that I’ve been sharing with everybody. I have Andy Schectman on a lot in our Friday night economic reviews. But I tell you that more and more people are buying gold and putting gold into their IRAs. I really hope, I want everyone who listens to this program to make sure that your assets, your IRAs are safe. They are still the most popular. People are selling scam IRAs, meaning you still are buying gold, but let’s say you have a million dollars you put in from your life savings.
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I want to talk about the geopolitical war strategy going on. I know it’s very tied to the economic reset that’s happening. And it’s and the power shifts, the power changes worldwide is causing so much of this turmoil. What do you think of the local or the recent threats, if you will, of Trump against Putin and the tariffs? You know, this is a, this is an interesting topic. And I think you have to understand about Donald Trump that he genuinely believes that threatening others is effective, that if you threaten people in some way that is important to them, that you will benefit, that you can get what you want.
I think this probably is related to his New York City upbringing and work in the real estate market. And let’s face it, right now, if you look at the White House and The people that surround him that are running everything, you might as well have turned over the nation to New York City. That’s what you’ve got running things now. I don’t think it makes any sense, and I don’t think it works at all. And in fact, I think the whole tariff business has backfired and continues to backfire. We’re not inflicting any harm on anybody else, but we’re certainly inflicting harm on Americans.
And normally, and you know this from your business acumen and background, tariffs are really defensive measures. You normally apply a tariff when you’re trying to protect a nascent industry, something inside your own country you want to see and grow, and you want to cultivate it. But he’s decided that tariffs are going to be some sort of offensive weapon. The problem is his underlying assumption is that we’re the indispensable country. He’s taken, you know, Madeleine Albright’s notion of the indispensable superpower to the economic arena and says, nobody can get along without us. We’re the most important market in the world.
Well, you know, that’s just not true, Sarah. Well, is that. Is that where our danger lies? Is that the power shift, the power dynamics have shifted enough where other countries don’t see us that way, or are we interdependent enough where there’s still enough truth to that? No, I don’t think we are that interdependent. I mean, we could be, but he’s going out of his way to divorce us from much of the world right now. In fact, I think you’re seeing two camps emerge. You’ve got to go back further in history. You got to go back over the last 80 years, since the end of the Second World War, and understand that we had the opportunity to set up a system with Bretton woods and then subsequently all these institutions, the imf, the World bank, all these things that we dominate and control along with the swift system.
And we set these up to our advantage. But we went beyond simple advantage to bullying people. In other words, we began dictating what crops you’re going to grow in Honduras, you know, how much gold you can take out of the mines in Senegal. And then we ran our own form of debt trap by lending money to people, putting them hopelessly in debt, for which they can’t possibly escape ever. And this is particularly true in the developing world. Is that the United States, or is that the central bankers based out of London and suppose, out of New York as well? Yeah, but right now, they Are us.
See, that’s the problem. You and I could sit here and say, well, I’m an American, I have nothing to do with that. The problem is that it doesn’t matter. These people control us. They control the world we live in, they control our lives, they control what we eat, what we see, they control the media, everything. It’s all New York City and the city of London banks now. It doesn’t have to be that way. And this is what’s happened. This thing we call bricks is now emerging very, very rapidly. It started off slowly, but now it’s really accelerated as the alternative to the debt based system that we run.
Their system is resource based. In other words, they’re going to gold backed currencies, gold backed transactions. We are all debt financed. They’re offering people the opportunity to get out from under us. So if you’re in Senegal or you’re in any number of different countries and you’ve got this enormous debt hanging over you from the imf, the World bank and so forth, and you say, well, I want to get out of this, I don’t want to do business with these people anymore. This is a trap. Then you have Xi in Beijing, Putin in Moscow saying, fine, join us, renounce your debt, go ahead, nationalize your industries, come on over to us.
We’re not going to do that to you. And that’s effectively what’s happening. Well, the whole world wants to go towards them, right? I mean there’s very few countries that want to stay with us. And so it, by threatening these other countries, are we just accelerating their move towards the brics? Yeah, absolutely. No question about it. I mean this latest round with India was laughable. The other thing we fail to understand. Hold on a second, tell us the latest round. Because I know that Trump said, because you’re selling, even involved in selling oil and gas to or buying oil and gas from Russia, we’re raising tariffs.
Right? That’s what they did to India. Well, they said it was going to be 100%. And Trump backed down, as he usually does, and said no, 25%. And the president of India, Modi, who would otherwise be friendly to Trump, said effectively, fine, we’re on our own. Goodbye. You know, we don’t need you. By the way, the Japanese have told us the same thing. We’re not interested in that. We’re going to buy all the oil and gas we need from Russia. Okay. Now that’s serious though, because Japan is one of our top allies. You know, Michael Yan keeps yelling from the rooftop.
Our most Important is what he believes. I don’t know if you agree with them. Our most important ally is Japan. Japan has never been our ally. Japan is interested exclusively in Japan, always has been. And they deeply resent having lost the Second World War, and they privately would love to see us go down. So I think Michael Yan is delusional on that point. That doesn’t mean we should dislike the Japanese. We should do business with them. We should do business with everybody. Well, he might be. He might be also saying that maybe they. You seeing them not as an ally.
He might be saying that making them an enemy is also a huge mistake. The best thing we could do for Japan and Korea is to get out, to get our forces out of those countries. No one, no. And this is another area in which I completely disagree with Michael Yan, and that’s this notion that China is some sort of great threat to everybody. China is a threat to itself. You’ve got 1.4 billion people living in that country. Every morning, Xi wakes up and hopes that he can hold the place together for another 24 hours. You know, the biggest problem he’s got militarily is corruption in the whole pla.
I mean, they. They’ve had to take out people who were leading the shipbuilding industry in China and shoot them because they were building 40 holes for the Navy. I mean, come on. I mean, they went out and inspected defensive missile batteries that line the coast. You know, everything the Chinese have been investing heavily in is designed to keep us out of China. In other words, it’s this thing they call area denial. You know, that’s what the Chinese are about, keeping us out of China, stopping us from interfering with them. That’s where they put most of their money, went out and inspected these batteries and discovered hundreds of missiles had no fuel in them.
Field being sold off. The biggest problem in the Chinese Navy is nobody wants to be in it because the Chinese are not a seafaring nation. So they have huge morale problems. Most of the Navy spends most of its time in harbor. You know, the same thing is true for the submarine fleet. The problem that we don’t. We don’t understand culture as well as geography, ethnicity, language, race, all these things interact. And we don’t see people through that lens because we live in La La Land. La La Land came into existence in a big way in 1965.
That’s when we decided that race, religion, language, culture don’t matter. The only thing that matters is economics. What’s that sound like? It’s called Marxism. And the people that preach that and believe that, and essentially treat everything else as irrelevant, dominate academia. It’s probably why you were booted. It’s one of the reasons I taught a section on culture and how. Because when you go to do partnerships in other countries, the culture difference is so significant. You have to learn how to work with these other cultures if you’re going to be able to build any kind of partnership with people.
Well, when Pompeo was Secretary of State, I was told that in his first attempt to meet with the dictator of North Korea, Mr. Kim, that he flew into Pyongyang, left the airport, went to the location where he was supposed to meet Mr. Kim, walked in, and of course, they said, well, please have a seat, and this will. We’ll discuss this, and so forth. And he said, listen, I don’t have any time for niceties. I’m here to make something clear to you and to find out where you stand. And then tried to lecture them. Well, that meeting ended very, very quickly because in that part of the world, the first thing you do is you sit down and it may last a day, it may last two days, three days, and you converse, you talk, you learn about each other before you even reach the topic.
And by the way, if you’re the foreigner in that country, in Korea, Japan or China, you don’t bring up the topic. They do. It’s incredible, isn’t it? The difference. I had a friend who is from. Yeah, but stop and think this. This man was Secretary of State. Jackass. Had no business being Secretary of State or anything else. I had a friend who. Whose dad. She’s Egyptian. Her dad was an Egyptian diplomat, and she really wanted me to meet him because we went to college together. And I met with them. We had dinner and stuff, me and her and her dad and.
And the entire conversation revolved around religion. The whole world looks at the things that the religion. I’m like, well, gosh, I think it’s economics, right? I mean, I was young, I was in my 20s, and I. I still remember that conversation so vividly because everything from his perspective was religious. Well, there are many countries in the world, many cultures in the world, many people in the world who do things for reasons that make no sense to us as Americans. Now, that doesn’t mean that they have to change their ways. We’re the ones that need to adapt to them and understand what’s really important to them.
This is the problem that Trump has with his view of international relations. How many times have you heard him say, well, I had a really good relationship With President Xi, I don’t know what’s happened. I had a really good relationship with President Putin. I know what’s happened. Well, the damn fool doesn’t understand that personal relationships don’t make much difference. Its interests that drive everything. We refuse to recognize other countries, legitimate national security interests, which involve economics, culture, geography, all of these things. So we don’t recognize that. We think, oh, well, we’re here to talk about X, whatever it is.
Tony Blinken was just as bad. Tony Blinken travels all over the Middle east as our representative. And everybody is polite to the man, but they all know he’s Israel’s puppet. He’s Israel’s representative. He doesn’t represent the interest of the American people. The United States. Just listen to him. It’s all about Israel. But isn’t that our current problem right now is that we have. It seems that it’s Israel first? Oh, absolutely. It doesn’t seem. It’s true. You know, there’s this wonderful scene from the movie the Godfather. I think it’s Godfather 2 or something. I’ve lost track. I think it’s the second one.
And it involves this man, Hyman Roth. He’s the Jewish gangster that worked with the Corleone family during the Depression. And they’re all sitting down in Cuba. And this is in the 1950s, just at the point in time where Castro moves in and takes over. And they’re sitting there and he said, we finally have here in Cuba something we’ve never had before, partnership with our government. You know, in other words, he’s running the country. He’s bought everybody off. Well, that’s what’s happened in Washington. The Israel lobby. And not just the Israel lobby. The pharmaceutical lobbies, the defense industries, there are many.
It’s not just the Israel lobby. The Israel Lobby, though, has been more effective at installing its chosen candidates. So when you look at the White House, you’re looking at the New York City delegation that is running America. That’s all. And they are tied directly back to Israel and the City of London banks and the New York financial system. They’re running your whole country. Americans are beginning to figure this out. I think slowly people are figuring this out. The masses don’t agree with where the country’s going. How is that going to affect this country long term? Where the people don’t agree with the people leading.
Huge disconnect. Well, first of all, they have to understand something that I think has begun to sink in. The ballot box is broken. Do you. You know, somebody said, I listened to Them say, well, we know that the election in 2020 wasn’t stolen. Well, here, I got a piece of news for you. I’m from Philadelphia. I lived there for the first 16, 17 years of my life. My mother was heavily engaged in politics. She was president of the Republican women of Pennsylvania. And she knew everybody in Philadelphia. They knew her, Democrats, Republicans. And in those days, by the way, Democrats and Republicans were not violent enemies of each other.
In other words, they were all Americans. So they may have disagreements, but they were Americans. That’s important. Okay. Yeah. But I can tell you that if, if you think Los Angeles, Philadelphia, New York City, Chicago are places where the ballot box matters, then, you know, I don’t know where you’ve been. Have you been living under a bridge somewhere as a troll? Because it doesn’t matter. You have one party systems in all of these places. That’s it. You know, the other parties are gone. In other words, the Republicans, they don’t really exist. Or they may have one or two people up there that, you know, somebody good, like a good human being like Diane Sare up in New York who tries to raise the flag of liberty and democracy, but, you know, she, she has no power.
She can’t get anywhere because New York City is firmly in the grip of one party. So you’re telling me that all these elections are free and fair and open? Well, that’s a lot of nonsense. It isn’t. And the other thing is we’re balkanized. We’re balkanized. We no longer have the United States of America. We have the United States of America and others, and they’re not necessarily united with us. If you go back to what we just saw happen in Los Angeles, what do you see on the streets down there facing ice? Well, El Salvadoran and Mexican flags.
Gosh, what’s going on? Well, do you think that’s all organic? But do you think that’s all organic? I mean, what kind of person goes to another country? It’d be like me going to Mexico, raising the US Flag and demanding that my rights are done that way. I, I don’t. My husband’s from Mexico. I just, I don’t believe that he’s a U. S. Citizen, But I don’t believe that the majority of people come here, raise their flag and expected to have us cater to them. I mean, what the hell is that? Well, we had that happen in the past.
We had people that put together a plan before the first world War who were of Mexican origin inside the United States to essentially usurp power and Restore Mexico’s control of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Southern California. I mean, that. That’s true. This has happened before. Yep. And one of the reasons that we took very seriously both the German influence in Mexico and subsequently the Soviet influence in Mexico, because the Soviet Union, throughout its history, maintained the largest single foreign KGB center outside of the Soviet Union in Mexico City. And the Mexicans have always been friendly to, and we’re closely with our enemies.
Okay, let’s get that straight. They’re not our friends. So now they have this huge presence in the United States. Huge. Somebody said at least half the population of Mexico has moved to the United States. Now, some of these people look around and say, I’m so happy to be here. They probably came legally, maybe not all, but most, and said, thank God I’m out of that place. In fact, I’ve got friends who are of Mexican origin, their grandparents, their parents came here, and they say, why would anybody want to go back to that place? I’m so happy to be an American.
But right now, I don’t think they’re the majority. I think you have millions of people who’ve come here illegally and millions who’ve come here recently, within the last 10 years, and their view is, well, we’re going to set up Mexico here inside America, just as you see in the Twin Cities. Somalia being set up in Minneapolis and Minnesota. That is happening. But. And they’re funding it. The. The. The parties. You say there’s one party, that party is funding it, and we have the money source showing it. Yes. Well, you also had the Biden administration that was funding NGOs who are operating.
And. And Michael Yan can tell you all about this. Were operating down in Panama and. And essentially equipping, feeding, instructing, and sending forward tens of millions of people to walk illegally into the United States. I mean, he covered that brilliantly. If you haven’t seen his work on that subject, that’s extraordinarily important. The NGOs. Now, that’s government by proxy, right? Yeah, of course. Well, Merrick, remember you had this man at the top of dhs. Oh, gosh, his name escapes me at the moment. I hadn’t thought about this for a while, but he was actually on the board of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, and they, along with the Catholic Charities, were pouring money into this illegal immigration.
I mean, he was head of dhs. That’s right. Essentially, you appointed someone who was determined to destroy us. Well, isn’t it worse? Who are us? This is important. Who. Let’s define us. I’m an American, period. That’s it. That’s all I am. I’m just an American. I have no other loyalties. I have no special agenda. I’m an American. I care deeply about my country, my society. I travel from coast to coast. I go to many places. I love this country. That’s it. Now, you are an American, I presume, of the same. Same character. We are the enemy.
That’s the problem. And that party that we’re talking about is now the UNI Party, because when’s the last time anybody stood up on the Republican side and defended anything inside this country? I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie. And what do they get for their trouble? Marginalized, you know, expelled from committees, punished. So who are the great defenders of Americans? Who are the great defenders of the United States? I don’t see very many in Washington, D.C. which goes back to your original point. Americans are figuring out that it doesn’t matter what they want or what they say, and it doesn’t matter who they vote for at the ballot box, because Washington is in the grip of others with agendas that have nothing to do with the United States.
Nothing at all. Right now, that’s what’s happened in Ukraine. Ukrainians west of the Dnieper river have figured out this man Zelensky, has no interest in them whatsoever. They’re just cannon fodder. He’s running this war in this country into the ground. They’re finally beginning to figure that out. Here in the United States, we’re figuring out the same kind of thing. Washington has an agenda. It wants to do what it does, doesn’t give a damn about us. So if that’s true, and I wrote this story, this piece of the American conservative called Versailles on the Potomac, and I was trying to get the point across to people, the people that are living in Washington that are supposedly governing, you might as well be in Versailles in 1789.
They’re out of touch with reality and they don’t care. They think they’re immune and vulnerable, invincible. And by the way, that increasingly looks like the case with the Trump administration, which, as I say, is really the New York City delegation running the country. Well, being out of touch with the people, as you’re saying, is what happened during the French Revolution. And I just wrote an article based on. And I sent it to you on millions of data points coming out of ChatGPT, which is interesting. And I then I came back and said, okay, I gotta really hammer it, make sure this is what it is.
Just adamant that what it told Me is accurate and that millions of data points that people are checking out, they’re, they, it’s essentially people are shutting down, disengaging. And there are actually some bright spots, profound change of building up different communities that are separate from the government change. They just don’t change. But I think it’s reflecting exactly what you’re saying. Yeah, well, this, this is what happens in revolutions. By the time the czar was removed from power in Russia, the argument had been made, well, he’s not really a Russian, he’s a German. He’s a foreigner. And you know what? He was, he was a German, so was his wife.
Now, that didn’t mean he wasn’t a good man and it didn’t mean he didn’t care about Russia. But those kinds of things bubble up in revolutions. Cromwell, when he was fighting his, you know, revolution to gain control of England and Great Britain at large from the King, suddenly people began saying, well, the king, you know, he, he’s a foreigner. He’s not one of us. He’s not an Anglo Saxon, he’s a Norman. You understand? You see the trend. This is, this is the kind of thing that happens when people become disgusted with the people above them. The other aspect of this with, by the way, they said the same thing about Louis xvi.
They said, who is this man, Louis Capet? He’s originally a Frank, a German, he’s not really a Frenchman. Now that wasn’t true by any stretch of the imagination in the most sincere sense, but he married an Austrian and he was descended from Franks who were Germans. So when the population feels alienated, they begin to look at the seat of government, and in this case it’s Washington D.C. they say, who the hell is calling the shots? Who are these people? Because they’re not interested in us, don’t care about us. So who are they? And I think that’s where we are now.
And I think your article demonstrates that pretty conclusively. That’s not a good trend. And I think right now it’s, it’s reaching the point of being irreversible. Well, you think that we are kind of on the brink of a French revolution. I think that’s the only thing from people I’ve talked to over the years. That’s the only thing that they’re really scared of is where the people rise up and, and they can’t do any. They take their power back. You do you think we’re really on the verge of that? Well, I think we’re close. But you, you, you always Ask the question, what’s the tipping point? I was interviewed by Tucker Carlson a couple of years ago, and I talk about the John Brown moment.
And I said, what’s the John Brown moment for us? Because John Brown’s little attempt to liberate the slaves in Virginia was a major event. But what really tipped the scales against the restoration of civil order, what tipped the scales against some sort of negotiated outcome was the stupid decision by the governor of Virginia at the time to hang John Brown. Everybody that was involved in that said, don’t hang this man. This is a good human being. This is a good man. These are the, these are Southerners, people that, you know, were upset over his attempt to raise the slaves, but they listened to what he said, and they said, this man’s a Christian.
He’s a good man. He doesn’t deserve to die for this. Sending back to Pennsylvania. Well, that didn’t happen. They hanged him. And by the time Lincoln runs for office, that is a catalyzing event. People are just really furious over what has happened and feel that now we have no choice. We have to be prepared to fight. I haven’t seen that yet. Now, some of that could be financial. I mean, years ago, I, I remember when Newt Gingrich and everybody can figure out how old I am, but that’s fine. I’m. I’m old enough to remember this stuff.
And I remember when Newt Gingrich shut down the US Government in a fight with Clinton. It was, it was a struggle for power. Big mistake. Clinton won the battle hands down. And the reason is he shut down the government, and he thought, this is going to push Clinton into a corner. And actually what it did is it. It pushed Gingrich and the Republicans into a corner because the average American for the first time was now hurt. And the average American said, what’s your justification for this? And I remember somebody, somebody out in San Francisco and he was riding a bike, and he had a case of beer strapped to the back of his bike, and.
And they stopped. He said, sir, sir, can you, can you talk to us for a second? I said, sure. And he said, well, what do you think about the decision to shut down the government today? He said, well, I don’t know. He said, well, aren’t you concerned about that? He said, well, I don’t know. As long as I can buy a case of beer and go home and watch the game tonight, you know, may not make any difference. Well, over time, as this wore on, it did make a difference to people because they shut the government down.
The checks stopped. You know, the food stamps stopped. You know, have you ever gone on YouTube and googled food Stamp Riot? You need to do that. And then suddenly you see people in Cincinnati, people in St. Louis, Chicago, they’re practically going to war because the food stamp office on which they depend daily is closed. They say, what is this? I have my child. Who’s going to help me? Yeah. Let me tell you, if the financial system collapses and the financial system’s in a lot of trouble, you know, we have over a trillion dollars of toxic debt on the books of the Federal Reserve, our central bank.
You know, that’s because we’ve been buying up all this toxic debt in order to get people to buy our bonds. When you won’t buy the bonds? Well, we go in and we buy the bonds. It’s a shell game. This is all going to collapse at some point. Listen to Nassim Taleb. You know, I love to quote him, because the guy is right. He keeps saying financial Armageddon is just over the horizon. And when he talks on MSNBC to the business gurus, they get upset. So, well, when’s this going to happen? So I don’t know exactly when, but I’m telling you, it’s close.
It’s right over the horizon. It’s very fragile. This could be much worse than what happened in 2007 and 2008. Buffett has said that. Now totally out of the market, too, but. Or not totally, but he’s sitting on, like, $500 billion worth of cash. Exactly. And then you have Jamie Dimon, who isn’t exactly a pillar of society, but, you know, he’s a major player in New York City, in the whole financial game, globally, for that matter. And he’s saying the same thing. We’re on the verge of a serious, serious crisis. It could be much worse than the 1929 depression.
So why am I saying these things? I don’t know when things will happen. I do not pretend to be a financial guru. I, too, am out of the market. I’m sitting in cash, gold and Bitcoin, period. Out. And I’ve done that, you know, for a long time, for the last couple of years. I don’t know when something bad’s going to happen, but I think it’s coming. I think Jamie Dimon is right, I think Warren Buffett is right, I think Nassim Taleb is right, and I think James Ricards is right, and I think Luke Grohman is right.
And, I mean, we can go down the list of all everybody I talk to is saying the same thing. All these brilliant people are saying these things. It’s going to happen now when that happens. Sarah, your 1789 scenario has a good chance of unfolding quickly now. Do you think that some of this grip on power by having an economic collapse will shift? Yes, absolutely. What happened in France? I mean, ultimately the king had to surrender to the population that came and picked him up. And they didn’t dislike the king initially in 1789. He’s not executed until 1792 because everyone is giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Unfortunately, he makes some bad decisions that utterly destroys his credibility with the population and they decide to execute him. Of course, by that time they’re executing the elites. Yeah, interesting to watch the Epstein phenomenon because that’s exactly the sort of thing that was going on with the French aristocracy. They were degenerate, they were decayed. In many cases they were, they were exploiting women and children and God knows what else. And finally the French people said, these people are disgusting. And the French are even at that time were hardly what I would call extraordinarily judgmental Christians. I mean, you could stand back.
I mean, most Americans will say what men and women do with each other adults, provided it doesn’t kill people in their own homes, is no business of ours. We don’t care. We’re not interested in listening to that. But when you involve children, everything changes. That’s right, everything changes. So that’s what’s lost to history though. People don’t realize that the French believe that their aristocracy, their elite, were essentially what we’re seeing today with the children and the abuse. Just a short break to share with you an amazing peptide. This one is GHK cu. This is one of the best anti aging peptides on the market, period.
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And there’s a lesson in all of that. Didn’t have to fight hard to get power. They, we, they started with Kerensky and Kerensky took over. He was the social democrat and they kept the czar. He was a constitutional monarch. And this went on for eight months. But Kerensky made a terrible mistake. What the population wanted was two things. An end to war and food they could afford to buy and eat. And so eight months pass and they keep fighting this war. They keep losing this war to the Germans. The Germans, by the way, they did not advance very far into Russia.
In fact almost not at all. They captured the Baltic littoral and Poland and go down to the Carpathians. They sat there the way the Russians have in front of the Ukrainians and the Russians were slaughtered in front of the defenses just as the Ukrainians have been slaughtered in front of the Russian defenses. Finally the population said that’s enough. And the soldiers started to go home and the generals failed and they left or they were executed. The Bolsheviks come in and they take over. And what is, what’s the, what is, what are they saying? Peace and bread.
Peace and bread. Land, peace and bread. And everybody says that’s it, we want that. Unfortunately they were worse. So we could be in a situation where I mean we have to be careful of want of making sure we create a more prosperous pro human situation. Do you think that social media is delaying this? I mean their control over the masses through social media and through propaganda through. I mean they’ve really perfected the science behind this. Do you think they’re able or do you think the cat’s out of the bag and they’re not able to control it? I think that the media will struggle continuously because they’re owned by the same people who run the financial system.
Those, those people also control your media. They control Hollywood and the mainstream. And now that you have the teal palantir surveillance system being set up, they’re Also in the same hands as people that run the finance. They’re part of the New York City delegation that we talk about in Washington now. So that’s going to continue, but I don’t think they can manage it. I disagree with somebody like Whitney Webb that, you know, there’s brilliant and they’re got a great strategy. I mean, her research is brilliant. I don’t subscribe to her conclusions. These people are not the Bolsheviks.
They’re certainly not the Nazis. They’re, they’re nothing close in terms of organization and capability and leaders like the ones that we saw in 1917, 18 or 1931, 32, 33. You don’t think they’re here to just slide? Well, I had Bill Binion. I think they want to enrich themselves. Okay, that’s clear. And they want to lead us around by the nose. But I don’t think it’s going to work. I think once the, the system collapses along the lines that we’ve been discussing, it’s over. The question is, who steps into the vacuum? That I don’t know, because what they have done very well is that they have crushed anybody who, who emerges as anything.
And so what you get is somebody like J.D. vance, who I think is a very nice man, but he has the leadership charisma and dynamism of a box turtle. He’s not going to lead anybody anywhere. And Donald Trump, whom I, whom I also like personally and I think privately, has some good instincts and would like to do things differently, doesn’t have the backbone or the guts to do it. So he falls into line with whatever his advisors, his circle tell him to do. And that’s why we’re doing what we’re doing right now. Well, let me ask you the.
I had Bill Binney on a couple weeks ago, and what do you say? Bill Benny, NSA whistleblower Bill Benny. I know. You know who he is, right? I know him, but I, I don’t know him well. Okay. He, he’s saying that the, what Palantir is doing a lot of this NSA already has. It’s pretty much another government by proxy. They’re moving it out to these private organizations, which isn’t just Palantir. There’s a whole network of them that are doing this and they’re making, they’re legalizing it, essentially. And they also store most of their information in Israel.
If you buy something online at Amazon, that information, that data all is stored in Israel and servers that are over there. So this, this triangle, if you will, let’s run from London to Israel to New York City and back. In other words, that’s a, a very important triangle of power and influence, all of which is bound up with international capital and finance. Let me ask you something that’s a little bit more personal. I’m not allowed on YouTube. Right. And you. We talked about this, and there’s no way I bully and harass people. I mean, it’s just so ridiculous compared to what I see there.
Why would someone like me and, and others, there are some others too, really be kicked off of a platform like bully? Like, like bully. That’s what I think of them as, the bully. Why would you really be kicked off a platform like that? And when do you think something like that will change? I think my impression is that if you were a strident opponent of our policy in Ukraine, if you rejected the lies, the narratives that are spun up by MI6 and CIA and Mossad about casualties in Ukraine and casualties in Russia. I mean, I heard the President, who actually made some sense in the fall of 2024 when he was running, and then he turns around, does 180 degree turn, and starts reciting these utterly false numbers about the losses that the Russians have allegedly had.
It’s just absurd. We’re very comfortable, those of us that have looked at this carefully with giving the obituaries, the satellite photography, the mass graves in Ukraine, as well as the cemeteries and so forth. About 1.8 million Ukrainian soldiers have been killed in action. It’s so bad. And about 120,000 Russians inside the Russian army, plus probably 10,000 to 15 to 20,000 Chechens and other volunteer militia units that came out of Luhansk and Donetsk. So, you know, what are you looking at? 140,000 killed and then a lot of wounded. At least as many wounded as you have killed in both cases.
But most of the wounded in Russia have returned to duty because they were effectively evacuated, treated properly, and then came back to fight. Right now, the Russians are recruiting volunteers for the Russian army at a rate of about 35,000amonth. So all of this crap about Russia failing or not winning is just crap. And that’s what we’ve been listening to for the last three plus years. Ukraine is on the verge of imploding. There’s not much left. The last remaining units are being encircled and destroyed, or they’re surrendering in Eastern Ukraine. So I think that’s one of the reasons that we may see this meeting between President Putin and President Trump next week.
Now, the Russians would very much like to go back to Try and normalize relations with us. I think Trump in his heart would like to do the same thing. Whether or not he can bring it off, I don’t know. But, you know, these stupid remarks that came out of this general about we can take Kaliningrad, East Prussia, this enclave that belongs to Russia, as being in Russian hands for 80 years. We can take that in the space of a couple of days. Believe me, I know we can do it. That’s all nonsense. We can’t. And if you attack it, you’re attacking Russian national sovereign territory, which puts you at war with Russia.
I mean, these are just incautious and stupid remarks. We don’t have the wherewithal. We can produce standard missiles, for instance, maybe 120 to 130 of those a month, or, excuse me, a year. You can produce maybe four or five hundred patriots a year. They’re trying to up that. The Russians are turning out missiles by the thousands, and they’re being turned out every month. I mean, we can’t compete. We’re not ready for that. We don’t have the radars in place. We don’t have the air and missile defense in place. We can defend perhaps 5% of NATO territory.
You know, the Russians would crush us. But why? We have the resources. We have the high tech industry. We have everything. Why would we be incapable of that? Well, you’ve got to go and do a couple of things. You’ve got to. This is one of the reasons that I’m sitting here talking to you and left the army when I did. Nobody in the military wants to change anything. Everybody at the top of the military is sitting on what they consider to be a gravy train. And so they are working tirelessly to preserve and extend the life of what I call the World War II construct.
In other words, when you look at the organization that persists through the Cold War and the way the services are organized and how we do things, or has its roots in the Second World War. The Russians have swept all of that away. It’s gone. They built new forces for a new world organized to fight very differently. We’re not capable of that because we have systematically rejected it. When I was in the army, the joke was, well, let’s have another division redesign conference, which meant that whatever you did, it could be 15,000, 20,000, 12,000. But whatever it was, it had to be a division under the A2 star.
In other words, you can’t change anything. The same answer comes out. Look at Nate. Excuse me. So they don’t want to Change, It’s a finance, it’s a financial cash flow thing. They want to keep this going because they’re cranking out money and doing. Is that really. But the whole world structure of the world has changed. Well, you also have the Navy that builds ships. And in many cases, these are not the ships we need. In many cases, we don’t need a large surface fleet. And if we’re going to have a large surface fleet or a surface fleet of any kind, we need different kinds of ship designs.
Everybody’s fought that for years. So instead of recognizing that the age of carrier based and carrier centric warfare on the surface is over, the carrier that starts out this way 80 years ago is this way. This way keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger, easier to target. It’s all stupid, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, one of my favorite people is Admiral Rickover and Admiral Hyman Rickover’s brilliant man. He’s the man that gave you the nuclear Navy. He really gave you nuclear submarines. He was a submariner, and everybody in the Navy hated him at the top, didn’t want to promote him because he was an advocate for a different kind of force, a different kind of surface fleet.
We needed change the way we were operating. And eventually he gets promoted, not because the Navy promoted him, but because he gets calls from the Hill in the White House to say, you got to promote Hyman Rick over. And so he gets promoted. But years later he testified, this was in the 1980s, before the Senate, and they said, admiral, how long do you think our carriers will survive in a war with the Soviet Union? He thought, and he said, senator, two weeks. Oh, if they stay in port. Otherwise, one week. If they stay in port. Okay, so this is where people like me have the.
And others I talk to. Are they. Because it seems like incompetence. It’s. Or it’s. It’s either incompetence or they’re doing it on purpose. Are they? It’s both. It’s because you’re not talking about a group of people in most cases who really study their professions. You know, for instance, if you’re in, if you look at the Russians, you look at their history and their cultural foundations, they’re much more professional in the way they approach the army and the Air Force than we are. They’re not really a naval power. So effectively, for their purposes, submarines are about it.
But on land and in the air, they have a different heritage. But they have moved away from manned aircraft in the direction of missiles, which are cheaper, faster, better and more destructive. Ultimately, and they have reorganized and changed the way they fight. But they have a general staff. And you don’t get promoted in most cases on the basis of whom you are related to, or if your father is a general or you’re the son in law of a general, or you’re a good guy that everybody likes. In other words, there’s more merit involved and more study and professionalism.
I would say that’s true for the polls. Polish military is very similar. They’re the Chinese, not so much, but they’re trying to get there. The Japanese, absolutely. Unquestionably, we have always resisted this. We’re a very egalitarian country, so we like to believe that anybody could do anything. Well, Sarah, you and I both know that’s crap. You can’t. I can’t ever. No matter how hard I try. I could go play basketball every day for the rest of my life and I will never play basketball like LeBron James. Forget it. Can’t be done. Okay, so we need to be honest.
Everybody is not the same. Everybody is not equal. We’re only equal before the law. That’s what’s critical. Unfortunately, we’ve fallen down on that a lot as you both, as you know. Well, I think I’m into merit. We all should have the opportunities to succeed if we can. And then it’s about merit and who really is the best. Because if you don’t do that, then you’re like with the fellow that built the submarine fleet. They didn’t like them because they wanted change. And in a lot of parts of our, in businesses and everywhere, those people who could be the best, the brightest could really make a difference for your company.
A lot of times are sidelined and they leave. Well, John Kenneth Galbraith, very brilliant man who wrote on finance. He wrote a short book on the history of banking crises. And he pointed out in every case, what you discover is that over time in the bank, you get increasingly the same kinds of people over and over and over again who are very conservative and they are judged to be safe hands. In other words, these are good guys. They’re safe hands, everything’s fine. Then there’s a crisis, and you find out that behind the facade there are a lot of problems.
And everybody’s just swept the problems under the rug. Under the rug, under the rug. Then the big crisis comes and they got to get rid of the people that are in charge and bring in a completely new set. Well, that’s true in everything in our country. You know, we are very, very reluctant to embrace any Kind of radically needed change. You know, just look at what’s happened to us at the border and illegal immigration. This didn’t happen overnight. We’ve been dealing with this since the late 80s, since Reagan declared amnesty. All that did was encourage everybody to, to breach our border.
It was a disaster. And then we say, well, everybody’s great. Anybody who comes here is great. No, it isn’t. You know, we used to be very selective about whom we admitted to the United States and we didn’t admit very many people. And that was by design. And then we shut it down in 1924 because we said we’re not getting the right kind of people. And it didn’t open up again until after the Second World War. There’s this sense, it’s, it’s deceptive, it’s dangerous, it’s delusional. But the idea is it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. No, everything matters.
And anybody who spent any time in business knows human capital is everything. That’s right. That’s right. And if you shut down your best and brightest as a, as a practice, you’re not going to be good. No, no. And look at what we do in school. We pour money into the lowest quarter of the performers. In other words, we’ve got to help all these people that can’t learn anything, who are stupid. We should be pouring money into the top 10, 15%. But this goes back to the big lie that everybody has to go to college and university.
No, they don’t. For most people, on any given day, education has to be a path to employment, Right? Yep. You need to have, and I do believe everybody, we want to maximize everybody flourishing. But that doesn’t mean that. What’s lost in that is you’re not maximizing our best and brightest flourishing. You’re also not allowing merit based where there’s an, where anybody can succeed. Because some of our best and brightest are being pushed down and pushed aside. But at the lower end, where you have a lot of good people who are not academically bright, they don’t need to be.
But what they need is a path to employment and they need the opportunities to flourish. Yes. And that could be done. And one of the things the Germans did for years, it’s all gone to hell, as far as I know. I studied in Germany in 69 and 70 and went back several times in different capacities. And the Germans used to do a wonderful job of linking industry to education. So Siemens, for instance, who was interested in, in developing technical skills for engineering and power projection over projection. When I’m talking about electricity and power, period. Energy over distance.
They were involved in the trade schools because they wanted to train people who could come into Siemens and be effective. So Siemens had a stake in the school system. They’re not the only ones. So VW is another. You want, you want this link, this partnership between your scientific industrial base and your educational system. But under, unfortunately, after fdr, everybody said, well, if you’re not sitting at a desk with a coat and tie on, then you’re not doing an important job. Which is just nonsense. It’s BS that is undermined our whole. I think. So that goes back to your point on, well, why are we still dealing with all these ridiculous ship designs that we don’t need? Why are we trying to force shipyards to exist that we can’t maintain? Why are we not cutting where it makes sense to cut spending? I think we could get a 50% cut in defense.
And if you say that in Washington, D.C. people have heart attacks up and down the halls because they depend on all this defense spending in their districts and specifically from their donors. I mean, the donors are making themselves rich and stuffing cash in their pockets. Again, it’s not just the Israel lobby. You know, you, you give Israel whatever it needs, you vote the way we tell you to, then we’ll make you rich and we’ll get you elected. That’s one side, but then you have the pharmaceuticals and defense industries and the others. You know, the whole thing is just rotten to the core.
I hate to be blunt, but that’s the way I see it right now. And I don’t see any easy fix, but I see a lot of box turtles. There are too many people without charisma, without dynamism, without commitment, devotion, gut wrenching belief in the country. There aren’t very many people like that. Everybody shows up and says, well, you know, gosh, I, I can, I can enrich myself. I can do very well here. That’s right. That’s what we got. That’s what we got. Well, thank you so much for joining me. What is the one thing that you want people to know and to before we leave, how they can actually make themselves better set up for their families and help the country at the same time? Well, that’s a, that’s a big question.
It is, but it’s important. Yeah, but I, what I would recommend, you know, from what I would do myself, I’ve already told you, I think privately that I, I got out of the market. I’ve tried to stock up on cash. I sold everything my all real estate. I rent someplace now. I’ve tried to reduce my costs, end indebtedness completely. Those are the things that I think we have to do to be ready. And of course I encourage people to arm themselves because if things do fall apart, one of the first things that will go by the wayside is law and order.
And it’s not the fault of the police. We’ve been undermining the police for years. We have a judicial system full of people that seem to be more interested in cultivating criminals than they are in enforcing the law. So I would hope that Americans that are doing the things that I just described are also arming themselves for the, for the worst possibilities and hopefully it won’t be necessary. But you know, that’s what I would say short term. Otherwise, I would say Americans are for the most part American first people. They really are. And we need to be America first.
We need to shed all these commitments overseas, get out of it. Doesn’t matter. Don’t listen to these people to tell you the world is going to end if we pull our forces out of Europe or the forces out of Northeast Asia. That’s just nonsense. The world’s been around for 5,000 years. It’ll be around when we’re not around. We need to worry about our own country. We need to worry about that border. There is no strategy right now to deal with the millions of illegals. There is no strategy. And I mean strategy, you know, to go after them, to organize them and pull them out.
The army is necessary for that mission. The U.S. armed forces have to be part of that mission. They are the ones with the transportation assets, the resources and the people. If we’re not serious about enforcing our laws, then there will be no law. And if there is no law, there is no country. Where can they follow you? Oh, gosh, you know, I’m on X, but I don’t spend a lot of time there. But YouTube, you find me there. Just Google my name, all sorts of stuff will come out. Some of which is not true. But that’s another problem.
I keep trying for some reason. I was born on the 4th of January, 1953. And I sent. You were talking about. You were talking about YouTube. And I sent my birth certificate in because somebody goes onto my Wikipedia site and changes my birth date to 57, makes me four years older. I’m not sure why, but it happens repeatedly. And I said, look, here’s my, my birth certificate. I was born on the 4th of January, 1953. I’m not, not 57, so. But I keep losing that battle. YouTube says screw you, we don’t care. It’s just so weird.
They just do such weird be. I don’t like Google, I don’t like YouTube because of what they did to me and so many other people. And they’re just irrational bullies. I think that if there’s any way you can look for alternative systems to use, I think that’s important. We shouldn’t be supporting people that bully us. I mean, I don’t know, it’s like they bully me, why am I going to support them? Stop. The other thing I think, and this is the last thing I’ll say and shut up. And that is don’t wait around expecting someone to show up and save you.
It’s obvious, right? That’s exactly right. Donald Trump. It’s not Donald Trump. He’s not going to do that. Neither will his successor. No one in Washington is going to save us. So know your neighbors, know your community, Find like minded people. Be prepared. Things go to hell to organize, enforce the law and protect yourselves. If you do that, others will follow. Things will get better. Don’t despair and don’t give up. Thank you so much for joining the program. I really appreciate it. Sure. Thank you. Sarah Sample.
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