Florida Surgeon General: Operation Warp Speed plus Attacks on RFK Jr w/ Dr Ladapo

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Sa Sam without stirring up these debates about blame related to President Trump or other, other leaders. I mean, I just to be really frank about it, I mean, clearly the guy wasn’t trying to do anything bad. He absolutely had no bad intentions. There’s like no question about that. He tried to do the best he could. But, but, but right now there, you know, there, it just, it does feel like there’s some tiptoeing around the things that are bad, as if those bad parts of Operation Warp Speed somehow reflect directly on Donald Trump’s President Donald Trump’s intentions.

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But you were the surgeon that was had the confidence and courage, I should say confidence, courage to Stand up and talk. And you were the surgeon of the people. And I’m not sure if there are very many people who were in your role and nobody really in your role that represented the people, and you cared so much about the people, and that was rare, and it showed courage that we haven’t seen from others. And, you know, the history books hopefully will represent that, although I don’t put too much faith in any of that. But, yeah, hopefully we win.

And they do represent that because, you know, if I’m. I’m sure we’re gonna win, I’m really confident about. I have sometimes I have some doubts, but my. My intuition strongly tells me that we’re going to win. So the history books will look like they should. I hope so. You know, the trajectory of goodness, I guess it always. I always say that goodness wins out over evil. Love wins out over evil in the long arch of justice. And. But in the short arc, it doesn’t always win out. But I would say in the long arc, it has to.

Right. Because it’s common sense. Yeah. I can’t speak for all time, but. But I. I think for this time that we’re in, that’s going to be the case. Yeah, for all time. I agree. It doesn’t always. That’s why I said I don’t know. But this time I think that because it’s. There’s so many people. And let’s get back to why we say this, because, you know, during COVID we’re still seeing. I just said Ed Dowd on my show, who is very good at identifying the facts of what the stats are truly showing. And one of the stats that he’s showing is the excess mortality rates that are very real that have continued to plague us as, you know, many years after Covid is done.

We still have people who are damaged from taking the shot, and there’s this excess mortality rate that is very real. At the same time, we have government who is choosing not to address it or notice it, and it’s causing a lot of anguish in the populace. Do you see that ending? I mean, will we be able to just continue to shove it under the rug that they’re acting as if there isn’t an issue out there, even though the stats clearly show there are problems? Yeah, yeah. The statistics, you know, definitely strongly indicate that there are problems.

And it’s complex. It’s like data analysis is actually, you know, it’s. It’s fairly, fairly complex, as, you know, as Ed Dowd know. But I think we’re gonna get There, you know, our current federal leadership, we’ve got Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Of course, we’ve got J. Balucharya and, and Marty. I was going to say Marty Koldorf. And that is true because he’s in the Advisory Committee for Immunization practices, along with Dr. Red. S.E. levy, who’s also a really impressive guy. But we’ve got Dr. Marty McCary, too, at the FDA. So I, I think we’re gonna get there.

I mean, this, this stuff is, you know, not only are the data complex, but the politics is complex. One thing that, that I’ve struggled with or I’ve not been happy about is, you know, you hear a lot about Operation Warp Speed, and I’ll tell you that, that, you know, in terms of execution and, you know, bringing different parties and interests together to create something as an operational exercise and, and, and entity, it was extremely successful. You know, it’s a lot of numbers, you know, a lot of policy changes and, and they created a process that was able to, you know, yield some results and in a time period that.

For which there was a lot of calamity. And I, I think that it’s okay for the, for the, for us to be able to simultaneously recognize how challenging it was and the good intentions behind, for example, President Trump when he, you know, directed his, His, His. His team to bring these components together. And it’s, it’s okay. I think it’s possible to recognize that and appreciate that and simultaneously appreciate that. Un. Some of the products were really terrible, right? You know, some of the products were great, like the monoclonal antibodies, but some of the products were really, really, really terrible.

And it doesn’t take anything away from President Trump or any of the people who earnestly were just trying to do the best they could and help other Americans. But unfortunately, it doesn’t seem like we’re there yet. It seems like people feel like it’s got to be one or the other, or at least many people feel like it’s got to be one or the other, but it can be both. Well, I’m going to unpack that a little bit, I think, because it was coupled with the industry censoring actual other treatments that were effective, and then, you know, like hydroxychloroquine or things like that, just not letting people have access to drugs that were very, very safe, and it was ridiculous.

And there were other things that they were really censoring and forcing upon people. You know, those lockdowns and the. All these things simultaneously with Operation Warp Speed that makes Operation Warps. That looks like to everybody that that was part of Operation Warp Speed. And, and you’re right. You’re right, because it was part of it. I mean, there were many. I, I think it would be inseparable. They, they would be inseparable. And I, I see what you’re saying, and I think what I, I guess what I would say then is to even be more specific because. And that’s not the only.

Those weren’t the only problem. Those were very bad problems. But, you know, obviously, some of the, you know, some of the, some of what Operation Warp Spree dragged in with it included censorship, included a culture of not, you know, not questioning authority. Absolutely. Not question, not questioning authority, not collecting data that you would really need to have and are capable of obtaining to really evaluate safety. So there were a lot of bad things. There were a lot of bad things that, that happened with it. So perhaps I would say maybe when I need to refine my statement, maybe the way I need to refine my statement is to say that I think I’ll.

Maybe I’ll just be more direct. I think, you know, you hear, you see these clips about President Trump talking about Operation Warp Speed. And, you know, he clearly has good intentions and had good intentions at that time. There are other people that were involved that had good intentions at that time. And I think that, I think that we can honor the good intentions of people who were really trying to do the best they could be based on what they were hearing and receiving, the information they were hearing and receiving from specialists. Right. Specialists in, in science, specialists in medicine, specialists in immunology, specialists in manufacturing.

And we can honor their efforts while also acknowledging the things that were terrible about it. And, and, and right now, for many people, they can’t have both. Like, I don’t see why, why we cannot be, you know, be more aggressive about some of the policy measures that we’re taking at the state level, at the federal level, at every level, without stirring up these debates about blame related to President Trump or other, other leaders. I mean, I just, to be really frank about it, I mean, clearly the guy wasn’t trying to do anything bad. He absolutely had no bad intentions.

There’s, like, no question about that. He tried to do the best he could. But, but right now there, you know, there, it just, it does feel like there’s some tiptoeing around the things that are bad, as if those bad parts of Operation Warp Speed somehow reflect directly on Donald Trump’s, President Donald Trump’s intentions, and they don’t I would. Yeah. I would like them to break that down and say, notoriously, the government blocks things. It takes a decade to get anything through. And when we have important needs, we need to be able to clear the path and get something through very quickly.

And we’re able to do that with Operation Warp Speed. So that aspect of it was phenomenal. Yeah, yeah. But what coupled with it was all these other bad things that we did not like. And so we need more of the Operation Warp Speed for certain things and less of the. Because the, The. The negative aspects that came forward. This is my perspective. I’m trying to articulate. Let’s have this conversation articulating what this is, because I see what you’re saying, and from a business person standpoint, it irritates the heck out of me as an entrepreneur to watch everything be such a convoluted mess when there is urgency to something.

But at the same time, when it was packaged with the censorship, as you say, and with the suppression of other treatments and the lockdowns and all this other stuff, it takes away from the success of bringing anything to the people quickly in an urgent environment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally agree. I totally agree. You know, there was. There was a tremendous amount of, you know, just terrible, terrible, inhumane, unethical, and sometimes evil. No way I think, else to say about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah. And if the censorship wasn’t so poor and the data wasn’t so poor and the hiding of data wasn’t so poor, then they could get the accurate information on what this treatment really was.

And that’s why people didn’t trust it either. So I think the blueprint of bringing something forward quickly is important. I mean, in a sludge environment, but then the honesty around it. But you’re right. There’s people that are negative on everything. I mean, like, you can’t get past that negative viewpoint. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. And I guess it goes on. It. It’s on. It’s on both sides. Because there are folks who. And I, I, you know, I want to clarify that I’m not criticizing anyone. You know, I’m sharing. We’re having a conversation about people’s perspectives, and I’m sharing my own perspective.

And I, I do think. But I also, I definitely not only not criticizing, but can’t blame anyone. I mean, people. The people who see only the negative of Operation War Speed, I can’t blame them. They’re people whose lives were destroyed. Like, how the hell, you know, I’m not gonna, you know, people, People whose lives were destroyed. Do not. They don’t. They don’t. They do not owe anyone any latitude or forgiveness. You know, they, like. I’m not gonna ask for them to be more understanding or to see, like, other perspectives. I mean, I. I get it. I can see why someone would see nothing positive.

I mean, imagine someone who was forced to take, you know, for the Pfizer Moderna vaccine, and, you know, maybe he or she was like a athletic, healthy mom or dad, and now they’re, you know, riddled with chronic pain and, and, you know, they can no longer work and they can no longer enjoy life like they used to, or they’re burdened with tinnitus, you know, the ringing in the ears that happen to some people or some other chronic condition. I get it. Why? I mean, it. I. I totally. I totally get it. Well, and then the not acknowledging that these.

Formally acknowledging after the fact that there’s these people suffering. Right, right. And that’s almost on the other side where, you know, where people are in an area of denial. I’m. I’m less forgiving of that because that, you know, it’s not that they’re personally suffering. They just. They’re worried about hurting someone’s feelings, like the President of the United States, or they’re worrying about, you know, sort of someone. Someone perceiving their comment as being harmful to the President of the United States, who is a grown adult. That’s right. And, well, he’s a good. He’s a good business person.

And I would think that he. It’s better for him to get it straight than have a bunch of people who kisses his behind all day long, because if he wants that, then he’s going to make bad decisions. And I know. I mean, I know. I know that. You know, I, you know, I don’t. I had the. I had the pleasure and the honor of meeting President Trump in. In this. I think it was the summer of 2020, in the middle of the hotness of the pandemic, when Dr. Scott Atlas invited me and Dr. J. Bhattacharya and Dr.

Martin Kulldor and Dr. Cody, and I’m blanking on Cody’s last name right this moment. But, you know, so I had the pleasure and the honor of meeting him at Meisner. I think Meisner’s Dr. Cody Meisner. I had the pleasure and the honor of meeting him. And, and, yeah, he. He absolutely, definitely was trying to do, you know, the best that he could for Americans, and that’s what he’s trying to do now. And we just, we. We just, you know, I can’t. I don’t know. You know, I don’t know him well, just beyond meeting him. That one time was, Was terrific experience, but I can’t imagine that even he would want people.

I can’t imagine that he would not want people to give it. Give to him straight. You know, I just, I can’t imagine that. Like, I, I just can’t imagine that. So even these people who aren’t giving it to him straight who live in this fantasy land where anything bad about the products of operation, warp speed, somehow mean that, you know, the architect, the overall architect is in Donald Trump is bad. They’re not, they’re not serving him like that. That doesn’t, that doesn’t serve him. It doesn’t serve Americans. I mean, it serves no one, ironically. It really just potentially serves them in terms of maybe that’s it, protecting them from criticism or.

Sure, doesn’t serve him. Yeah, it doesn’t serve him. And I don’t, I, Again, I cannot imagine just, you know, again, I had minimal interaction with him, but even from that meeting now, there’s no way. He doesn’t want people to, you know, to blow. Wind up as. You know what I mean? He wants people to tell him. Tell him the truth, even if he doesn’t like it. There’s just, there’s just. Well, it’s just data, right? I mean, at some point it’s like, I have. It’s not personal at all. It has nothing to do with him personally at all.

Here’s the data. Here’s the information. You make up your mind, this is what information I have. And it can’t be personal because it’s an objective reality. Yeah, I totally, I totally agree. And, you know, contrast that well with people like Dr. Anthony Fauci. So here you have a guy who has the scientific training, right? Yeah. Who, who has the, you know, who has the ability to read and interpret scientific studies, to read, interpret epidemiologic studies. And, you know, that’s very different. So this is a guy who, he is partially responsible for the bad aspects because he had the training and he deceived people, you know, very knowingly deceive people.

So that’s a different dynamic. But yeah, I mean, I, it’s, it’s something that I think we’ve been stuck on for a while, but it doesn’t do. It’s really. I feel my heart breaks for all the people. All of the people, I mean, many of whom are gone, you know, left the planet because of these MRNA COVID 19 vaccines. And then many of whom are suffering. A lot of people are suffering, don’t even know it. That it’s, that the, that. That’s right. It’s still too, it’s still the manifest yet. Yeah. Or, or it’s manifested. But they’re, they, they, they have been able to connect to and you know, 2 and 2 and, you know, feel terrible, terrible, terrible for, for those people.

But I, I’m not happy with the people who are not being honest because they think that President Trump can’t handle it. Like, that’s, that’s not the way to manage. Yeah. That’s not the, like the part he was responsible for. He came in with the right intention. He did the things that he was responsible for very well. I have no doubt. I mean it very well. It’s. But some of that stuff he’s not responsible for. You just, you can’t ask him to be responsible for, like, you know, the details of the immunology and things like that. And the people who are responsible for those parts, like, that’s where, that’s, that is where they share in the, they share in the blame, they share in the responsibility.

And I think after the fact, though, you know, there’s been doctors who are coming out and saying we need to help people with these injuries and at minimum, we at least have to acknowledge they exist. Right. And I don’t even know if we’re at that point yet. And that’s, that’s hard for me to hear or to see our government do that to its own people. There’s just been so much evil, Sarah. You know, one of the ways, of course, you can undermine the accounting of a problem is to not collect data on it. And, you know, the people like the, the American Medical association could have developed diagnosis codes.

Even to the best of my knowledge, to this day, there’s not even. There’s still not a diagnosis code for myocarditis from COVID 19 vaccine. Like, you know, at least. I mean, there’s so many side effects. But that one is, there’s no debate. Well documented. Yes. Yeah. I mean, people like to pretend that it’s less common than it is. And that’s, that’s another. That is a debate. But there’s no debate about the, the, the causative, the correlation between the two. And, and, you know, the, There are no, there are no, to the best of my knowledge, no ICD10 codes.

Not a single one, you know, even. I mean, it’s, it’s just like that’s one of the evil ways you undermine the ability to serve people and to take care of people by just not even making it possible for us to query our electronic health record systems and figure out how often doctors are recording this. I know, it’s just incredible. Well, let’s move on to Maha because that is something that’s really important. The United States, our health care system is not what people. It’s not the best in the world anymore. It’s just not. And you know, medical tourism is a very real thing where people go to other countries to get surgeries and things done because a, it’s cheaper and they have better results in some countries.

You know, each different region has better things than others. We clearly have issues here and our lifespan is decreasing compared to the rest or, you know, the west of the Western. Rest of the Western world. Our childbirth rates are going down where. What do you think of the Maho movement? And with these issues as the backdrop, why is Kennedy getting so much pushback? Yeah, well, I should, I should say, I guess full disclosure as people like to say, that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is a friend of mine. You know, he’s someone that, you know, I like a lot and, and admire a lot.

And you know, I mean, I think that, I think it’s a great question why is he getting so much pushback? I mean, how can it not be an obvious thing that we need to deal with? It’s crazy, right? I, I think that there are multiple reasons and it partly depends on the audience. So he’s getting a lot of pushback for sure, from the pharmaceutical industry and because they are terrified of, of, you know, of, of losing money and power. You know, that one’s like, very simple, right? Particularly related to, to, you know, vaccines and other, other products too.

We’ve really had an environment of permissiveness with the fda. It relates to, for example, the fact that substantial part of FDA funding comes from, comes from the, the, you know, pharmaceutical companies and biotech companies who’s, who have to. Who pay for their reviews. And you know, when that idea, when that policy was, was first created. Yeah, I think that folks didn’t, may not have, at least lawmakers may not have thought through the effects, the insidious effects of having a federal organization that receives like funding, even if it’s for service of review, it creates entanglements and it’s been a very permissive environment.

And of course there’s been a lot of discussion about the revolving door between, you know, you got Dr. Scott Gotlot, right. You know, and Working at Pfizer or helping Pfizer. So that whole revolving door with the FDA and, and from pharma is, is part of the reason he’s getting a lot of pushback from medical organizations like the American Medical association, like the American Academy of Pediatrics, pretty much every major professional medical association. He’s getting pushback from them because he’s calling them out on their. And you know, and what is that? It’s, it’s the fact that, you know, that they, they’ve been, for reasons that do not start with interest in actual patient welfare, they’ve been pushing transgender hormonal treatments which some of which lead to irreversible adverse effects on children.

Sterilization. Sterilization, Right. There’s even a paper I was reading with where there’s an association with, I think it’s just, pardon me, testicular cancer. I mean, very terrible, terrible stuff. They’ve been, they’ve been encouraging and supporting these surgical treatments that are irreversible, these sex change operations for children. They’ve been supporting the COVID 19 vaccine for children. Like basically a huge experiment on children for which they do not benefit at all. They don’t need it at all. Exactly, exactly. You know, they’ve been, they’ve been ramming stupid stuff like DEI down physicians throats at the expense of good clinical care.

Like literally. There’s a paper that I just saw that, that estimates, compares two approaches to I think aortic valve replacement and doesn’t compare them based on patient outcomes or you know, mortality or patient reported quality of life. It literally compares them based on like carbon output. I mean, it’s insane. I shouldn’t laugh. I’m not surprised. But that’s why people are really questioning the whole medical industry. Because if you have a brain, you know, if you come from. I come. I have a science background. I’m not a medical doctor, but I have a science background. I can read data like it’s not that complex.

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These professional societies, they haven’t spoken the truth. So you know, Robert F. Kennedy, Juniors, he’s calling them out and that’s why he’s getting a lot of pushback from, from that. Is he getting support from the actual medical doctors? Because you know, I have medical doct family and they are at their wits end with the system. Like they are just everything we’re talking about here, they’re seeing the same thing. He definitely is getting support from some doctors for sure. I think the challenge is that, and he does get a lot of support from, from doctors. The challenges that the organizations like literally the face of yes Medicine or the faces of medicine with these different groups, they’re just, you know, they’re, they are just all crap right now.

So it, it doesn’t, you know, there’s this appearance they’re the voice of these groups. So there’s this appearance that he’s not, you know, having their support. But he, he definitely has a lot of support from you know, on the ground clinicians who actually see patients, who see how rotten and political the professional societies have grown to be. And he has a lot of support from them. And you know, he ran Children’s Health Defense for the longest time, was the leader of that and they really focused on vaccines. And so the people that supported him before feel abandoned by his newfound focus on other areas of health, which I don’t see any problem with when you talk about food and other things.

But his, his lack of focusing on vaccines. And so they feel that it seems that they feel abandoned by him. But is he abandoning them or, or is he just up against the system that is so powerful that he has to make calculated decisions? My personal opinion, I’ve never asked him about this, but my personal opinion is that it’s the latter. You know, one thing about being in a leadership Spot and I’ve certainly through this here in Florida is, you know, sometimes you got to. You have to make decisions and, you know, it’s. It’s sort of easy for people to.

To kind of say what they would do. I obviously, I get a lot of feedback on the decisions I made over the years. I’m sure you do, whether you want it or not, this and that. Although a lot of people also very supportive too, for sure. But. Yeah, but, you know, he’s. And pardon me, I think the phone’s ringing in the background. He’s, you know, I think it’s the latter. I can’t see the, the entirety of the playing board, the, the field as he, you know, he’s in that position where he sees all the components. And I, I think it’s the latter.

I certainly know that he’s got a great heart and. Absolutely, you know, has. And he’s. As he’s demonstrated from his years and years and years and years of advocacy, often in the face of, you know, really harsh criticism. I, I think that. I think that. I think that it is the latter. Well, sometimes in politics, those people that fight loud for causes, sometimes they can help you and sometimes they can hurt you. So if you aren’t able to fight it yourself because they’re running up against political adversaries that are very strong, having a group of people that are fighting it loudly for you can actually be a benefit, even if it looks like it’s against you.

So part of me wonders if it’s not that big of a deal that his, you know, that, that or it’s almost a net benefit that they’re still fighting so hard for that and helping him in indirectly, if that makes sense. Yeah, I totally agree. I. I mean, I would say it like this. I think all the folks that are complaining, all the folks that aren’t happy, you gotta be. You have to be true to what you believe. Like, I would never want, you know, I get criticism sometimes from, from the other side. So I mean, I get a lot of criticism from, you know, from sort of more traditional perspective, oftentimes liberal perspective side.

But I get, I get, I get criticism from the right, if you will. Also. Not as often, but I do. And I, I’m glad. I mean, whatever you believe, whatever you believe in, you have every right. I mean, no one, no one needs to be happy with anything I do, you know, if you. I mean, I’m happy if you are, but I don’t need you to be happy. I need you to. To. To, you know, to be happy. I need you to, you know, to express however you feel. And so I, I do, I think the people who are unhappy with how things are going, you know, thank goodness, thank goodness that they’re vocal about it.

And I think the people who are happy with things, the way things are going and, and some of the wins that we’ve had, great. I mean, I, you know, I’m glad they’re expressing themselves too. I, but, you know, this idea that, that, that people ought not to express how they feel. No good. Like, that’s, I don’t subscribe to that. That’s complete nonsense. So. And, and as you said, I think, if I understand you correctly, I do agree with you. I do think that it does help when the people weren’t happy are vocal. I actually do think that it helps, especially if it’s something that you believe in.

But it’s, it gives you political cover. You know, they give you political cover because you can’t necessarily fight it yourself, but they can. And you need a lot of them fighting it, I think. Yeah, I, I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. So there’s another thing that I’ve recently, and I don’t hear it enough yet. And I think it’s because it’s just a new area. I had Karen Kelly, come on. He’s a environmentalist that is cleaning out the world’s oceans. He cleans out plastics from the world’s ocean. He, his company cleans out more than a week in a week.

Then the next largest company cleans out in a year. He’s prominent guy and he’s not, he gets kind of bashed by the environmental group because he says it’s, you know, COT2 is not really our issue, guys, right. It’s, we have these other issues and he’s saying plastics microplastics is in the oceans. It’s collapsing our plankton and it’s, it’s getting into the plankton and it’s, it’s destroying it, but it’s also collapsing our fish supply. So, for example, he was using an example of a fish area that hasn’t been fished in like three decades. And they were excited to go in there.

And he’s like, you’re not going to find any big fish. And there’s a certain type of fish that’s supposed to be five to six pounds, and he’s like, you’re not going to find anything more than an ounce. These fish that are supposed to be five to six pounds are only an ounce inside because they aren’t getting the Nutrients because of these microplastics. And he’s telling me that these microplastics are also affecting our hormonal developments. The studies are all coming out and that it, it’s, it’s also disrupting hormone development in children as they’re developing. And a lot of this, this gender confusion is coming from plastics, microplastics and just the pollution of our air and our water.

And I know the Maha movement is trying to figure out a lot of that as well. Do you, have you been up on, on this issue? And I, I’m sorry if this is something I threw at you because I should have asked you before so that you knew I wanted to ask you about this but I just, you know, I’ve been thinking about it a lot lately and on how important this really could be for our health if it’s really disrupting basic development like this and hurting our oxygen and our fish supply and so many other areas.

Yeah, you know, I, I haven’t, it’s not something I’m well versed in. It is a problem. There’s actually, I think that everyone senses it’s really bad, but in terms of like hard research showing an association with particular adverse, like bad health outcomes, I don’t know that there’s a, which is not to say it doesn’t exist like that, that, that relationship. I just don’t want to, I just don’t know if there’s a lot of, there’s enough data yet. Right, right. There was a very disturbing study that was published recently that looked at, quantified the amount of microplastics in the brains.

It was like an autopsy study and unfortunately of humans and unfortunately there was a ton, I forget the exact amount, but it was like a ton of microplastics. So that’s one of the areas that apparently it’s collecting. So it’s really gross and concerning it. Yeah. And, and I started looking at. There’s very few studies, but some of them, there’s more that are, started starting up and some of the initial results were this hormonal disruption and. Well, I don’t, they might be inconclusive at this point, but it seems like it’s such a big issue that we need to get on it, we need to figure it out.

And the fish, if it affected fish like that, then, and it’s affecting plankton like that, first of all, that’s indirectly affecting us. Just those two items. Yeah, but then how is it going to affect our human development as well? I, I, I, I agree with you. Yeah. I know you don’t. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it’s, it’s interesting because so here in, in Florida, like, I think about, I think about some of, you know, there’s so many issues, right? Like, you know, here we’ve got Secretary Kennedy trying to write the ship, but boy, is the ship way off course.

And you know, like, you know, there’s a. Vaccines, they’re the food additives, they’re the microplastics, there’s the pesticides like the glyphosate and organophosphates that are, you know, there, there’s very little debate. I mean, very good studies show really bad hormonal outcomes and hormonal disruption. So could that be also the gender confusion coming from that? That. In short, I don’t know. I do think that I, that so far the research has shown that affects things like sperm counts and, and it, it even affects, it even affects. Even, even affects other, other systems and in the human body and their proper function.

But it’s not alone, right? There are other plastics that, for example, the evidence seems to show effect, pardon me, immune function. Like how, how? Well, our, you know, again, these, these systems that are affected and they’re these plea. Pleiotropic effects of, of these exposures. And we’re surrounded in them, we’re swimming in them, we’re breathing them. You know, we’re, we’re, we’re drinking them, we’re eating them. And then of course, you know, some people are more sensitive to their effects than other people. So with all this, like, you know, I, I, I just kind of have to decide kind of where to put my energy and attention.

So, for example, I mean, just as another thing, right, Fluoridated water here in Florida, you know, we worked very hard to try and convince counties and cities to stop adding it to water. And why? Why? Because it, the evidence seems to show that reduces IQ and reduces intelligence, is toxic to the brain. It seems to increase the risk of, of behavioral problems and neuropsychiatric problems in children. And you know, so we’ve put attention on that and fortunately, because the lawmakers here and in our leadership in the state, that’s done like, so now that’s out of the water here right now.

We, we’ve also been working on another dental issue, which is like the issue of amalgam. And there the issue is the fact that these silver fillings, they’re actually mostly mercury. And so, you know, we’re working on that issue to try to reduce that. We’re doing some Work with, with, with baby formula and trying to reduce non stop, you know what I mean? Everywhere. Yeah, the pfas. And the PFAS is a problem. It’s just like I just, I know, I know how to get to him. Well, but that’s why I tell people we need, we need intelligent adults.

The, the grown ups in the room all need to contribute. We can’t just sit back and expect to let you to take care of everything. I mean, we need the grown ups in the rooms, in all these different institutions all over the place participating. Yeah. And I know, you know, I know that, that, you know, I think when we talked last, I talked about my book Transcend Fear, but that’s, that’s been something that I’ve also been thinking about because I, I can’t remember whether in the, the first interview we did together whether I described it, but I personally, I mean I’ve had a personal journey that, that was profound for me and allowed me to be in a state where I could be free enough from things like fear and things like, you know, things like self doubt, anger, shame to be able to like pursue what I think is right and important.

And the, the challenge is that is that, that is, that is a big, that is a big barrier right now. We just have too many leaders that are carrying around too much stress and tension and trauma to be able to lead in a way that is to the maximum benefit of their people. So I don’t, it’s a, it’s, it, it is, it’s a problem and I don’t know what the solution is, but it’s a problem I think about. Well, it doesn’t. Fear shut you down. I mean fear keeps you from, put you in a cage. It keeps you, you from thinking rationally.

It thinks, you know, I guess it’s flight or fight, but a lot of people just, you know, just shut down and they can’t function properly. Yeah. And that, I think that’s what you’re documenting. And when you can get past your fear, that’s courage though, right? You get past your fear? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And you know, there’s the, there’s sort of, there’s the acute fear which, which manifests as fight or flight and, and you know, can be extremely overwhelming. But there’s also the insidious amount that we carry around and it shows up as that voice that, you know, maybe we see something that shouldn’t be happening.

Like we see someone bullying someone else and we want to say something, but we’re like, you know, I don’t want something bad to happen. I don’t want to get involved. And it’s okay to be cautious, but there’s, there’s a difference between being cautious and being fearful. And, you know, or you’re in a meeting and maybe, you know, someone says something and, and you, you think that there’s something wrong or a better, a better response or some better strategy, but you’re, you’re. But the person doesn’t speak up because, oh, I don’t want to stick my neck out and what if I’m wrong? Or, you know, what if people think, you know, bad things about me or what if I make someone mad like that.

That, that’s, that’s not the fight or flight fear, but it is, you know, it’s definitely very harmful. That’s more harmful almost because it’s more insidious, it’s more widespread and it’s consistent. And it’s what we saw during COVID right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That’s what we saw during COVID Everybody just didn’t wanna, well, just do this because it’s easier, right? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And then, then when you’re in the front line fighting it, you’re by yourself fighting it with a few other people that are willing to put their neck out. But if everybody who believed would have, would put.

Come and join, then the fight’s not that hard suddenly. Yeah, I mean, it’s still hard, but not like it should have been. Right? And we’re seeing that now. You know, so many more people are being vocal. But you’re right. Back in the early days, boy, that was not easy. But, but that’s, that’s what it’s like kind of with almost every issue that goes against the mainstream. Right. If and when you’re first bringing any kind of data forward that goes against conventional wisdom or knowledge, it’s that same concept. It’s that same thing. It’s like, well, and then we have to separate out and be careful not to do this.

Separate out. Attacking the person that you’re presenting the data to. This is just a guy is. We don’t need to attack each other and then ex. And stop attacking the messenger as well. Yeah, yeah, I, you know, it’s, it’s obviously very tempting and understandable for why people attack other people. And I myself am not without, without error in this area, without fault, this area. But, but I, I do avoid it because it, you know, it usually when we, when we enter that frequency of attack, it’s like, I don’t know, you put the Energy out there, and now it’s out there, and now it’s, you know.

You know, people joke you have that saying about, like a butterfly flapping its wings in one country affecting, you know, some conditions in another country. And, and while the butterfly flapping its wings may not have caused a hurricane in another country, when we do put that energy out there, it does change the world forever. Right? And the world’s always changing. And it’s always, you know, the, the energy that we’re all putting out there is always affecting and interacting with every single thing out there. And, you know, some people are extremely sensitive and they’re able to, to really appreciate and experience all the fluctuation and the disruption.

Some people are less sensitive and doesn’t register, but it still is, and it’s out there. So it’s just another reason, you know, not. That’s just, that’s another reason. I mean, obviously we don’t know the, the, the paths that people have taken in their, in their lives. We don’t know why their souls chose to come to the earth at this time. You know, like, we don’t know any of that stuff. So that, that itself is enough to, to, to, you know, to be unhappy with the actions or the choices of decisions, but not make it about the person.

But yeah, just in general, you know, it’s, it doesn’t serve any of us to kind of put out, you know, put out that type of energy that you’re really. Energy is a big deal, isn’t it? Energy is invisible but very real just as much as WI fi is real. We put out energy and intention and matters, and you probably see it, Doctors see it all the time in the, in medicine, somebody’s belief that they’re going to get well, and they do. You know, it’s your mindset, your energy, people. The energy in the room makes a difference.

Totally. Totally. And, you know, it goes from the profound, like the fact that people can think themselves into wellness or, or illness just to the more subtle. Right. Like how, you know, how people feel about. Feel when they’re around you or how you feel when you’re around other people. You know, it’s always there in the field. It is. You can feel other people’s energies. You are amazing. You’re America’s doctor. You’re the doctor of the people. I, I’m gonna keep calling you that because you really are. And so thank you so much for being you. Where can they get your book? The book Transcend Fear is available on Amazon and Barnes and Noble and probably probably other major retailers.

But, but, yeah, people can get the book. And, you know, and I, I really am very open to, like, having conversations with people about how we can expand people’s access to works to work and, and kind of other strategies that help unburden, unload some of that stress and, and tension and trauma that we all carry around. Because I, I know it it will only make the world a better place. So, so if you read it and you have some ideas for me, I, again, I continue to think about the issue, but if you read it and you have some ideas for me, please don’t hesitate to reach out.

I will do that. Thank you so much for joining the program. I really appreciate it. Thanks, Sarah. Thanks, Sarah. SA.
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