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Summary
➡ The text is about a former FBI agent who was assigned to investigate criminal activities on an Apache Indian reservation in New Mexico. However, he was later tasked to investigate parents at school board meetings, which led to his removal from the FBI in 2022. He then became a government transparency activist and started a podcast. The text also discusses the lack of awareness among many FBI employees about national issues and the indoctrination process within the organization.
➡ The speaker, a former FBI agent, emphasizes the importance of teamwork in various fields, including the military, finance, and emergency medicine. He criticizes the FBI for promoting an individualistic mindset, which can lead to an inflated sense of self-importance. He also advises people to exercise their right to remain silent when approached by law enforcement, especially the FBI, unless they have legal representation. The speaker shares his personal experiences of being investigated by the FBI, highlighting the agency’s willingness to target even its own members, and warns against the potential abuse of power.
➡ The whistleblower revealed that anti-abortion activists were considered a major threat in New Mexico, despite the state’s significant issues with cartel activity. He also expressed frustration about the suppression of information and differing opinions. Additionally, he mentioned an upcoming Q&A session about protecting assets in a financial reset. Lastly, he shared his views on government power, advocating for less federal control and more local governance, and criticized the misuse of government tools like FISA.
➡ People are often led to believe they are superior due to their association with certain organizations, leading to a culture of loyalty to the institution over principles. This can result in overlooking abuses within these organizations. The author highlights the importance of questioning potentially illegal orders and maintaining individual liberties. However, he also points out that those who question such orders often face repercussions, leading to a culture of compliance rather than questioning.
➡ The speaker discusses the idea of a globalist cartel causing chaos, but admits there’s no evidence for it. Instead, they suggest people are primarily motivated by self-interest and career advancement. They trace the evolution of the FBI’s focus from foreign threats to domestic ones, arguing that this shift has led to an overreach of power and a redefinition of ‘extremist’. They express concern that this could lead to innocent people being labeled as threats simply for disagreeing with government policies.
➡ The text discusses the dangers of intelligence agencies having too much power, likening them to secret police. It highlights how these agencies can misuse their power to control and manipulate people’s lives, often in collaboration with tech giants like Google and Facebook. The text also mentions the challenges of maintaining privacy in the digital age, and the potential consequences for those who challenge these powerful entities. Lastly, it touches on the issue of international terrorism and the potential risks associated with unchecked immigration.
➡ The speaker discusses various issues, including the influx of unidentified individuals into the U.S., the Biden administration’s handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal, and the implementation of Covid mandates. They also touch on the violent incidents in Portland and Minneapolis, and the government’s focus on anti-government, anti-authority violent extremists. The speaker criticizes the FBI’s approach to investigating these issues, suggesting that they are targeting easier targets rather than dangerous individuals. They also suggest that there is a financial incentive for senior executives to meet investigation quotas, which may influence the choice of cases pursued.
➡ The text discusses the inner workings of the FBI, highlighting how it negotiates its operations annually. It also mentions the shift in the FBI’s identity from a law enforcement entity to an intelligence agency, which has led to a change in its personnel and ideologies. The text criticizes this shift, suggesting it has led to a disconnect between the agency’s actions and its original mission. Lastly, it points out that the FBI’s core values and mission statements were changed in 2020, which the author finds concerning.
➡ The speaker discusses the importance of integrity and the oath of office in law enforcement, emphasizing that these should be upheld to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. They also express concern about the overreach of government and the power of platforms like YouTube, suggesting that people should diversify their platforms to avoid suppression. The speaker also shares personal anecdotes about their family and their views on technology and its potential dangers.
Transcript
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He that’s what he believes and he makes a great case for that. And what does that mean? And then he also talks about how the incentives in the FBI causes them to be thugs and how they started going after everyday citizens based on how they incent people and then how they pretty much set up a organization that causes anybody that questions the rule of law or what their oath is to be let go, to be fired. So it’s, it’s, it’s really how you get a group of people to become tyrants, to enforce tyranny. And that’s was baked into the system based on their procedures, their processes and how they paid people.
And we’re going to talk about that. And he’s breaking that down. That’s important for people to understand because, I mean, that’s the kind of nightmare we’re sitting in is. And why it’s been turned against the people, how it’s been turned against the people. And we’re paying for it. We’re paying for them to do this to us. But I want to remind you before we get into that that I have a, a free webinar that’s going on next Wednesday. So Wednesday the 28th with Andy Schectman for Miles Franklin. We are going to be doing a Q and A on how to protect your assets.
So we’ll do an overview and then people are going to be submitting questions and then you can learn, hopefully you can learn if you have any questions on how to protect your assets or if you are worried about having a IRA that has been scammed or whatever. You know, the worry we are, there’s so much economic turmoil right now and so much happening. And so people are confused. They’re worried, they’re nervous, they have questions. And so if you are interested in joining that webinar, I’ll have a link for you below where you can sign up or you can go to sarawestall.com/q&a, and I’ll have a link for that as well.
And, and in that you will have a place where you can submit some questions because we don’t know how many people are going to be joining. And so if there’s a question that gets asked many times, I’m just gonna, you know, put it together. But it’s going to be open Q, Q and A. So you should join us and you hopefully will learn a lot. It should be very informative. Again, Wednesday the 28th. So this coming up Wednesday at 5pm Central, 6pm Eastern time. Okay, let’s get into my really good conversation with Kyle Seraphin Hi, Kyle.
Welcome to the program. Thanks for having me on. Sarah, good to see you. Well, you have been a trailblazer as far as coming out and having the courage to talk about what so many other people won’t disclose. And they must see it every single day as an FBI whistleblower. Before we go into that too much, can you just give people a brief background? A lot of people know who you are, but some people don’t. So give us a brief background of who you are. We’ll try to be super brief about it because it could get really weird.
My buddies kind of tell me that I’m like Wolverine because I lived a bunch of different lives, but essentially I’m a husband, I’m a father, and I am a former FBI agent. I joined the FBI in 2016, and I’m 43 right now. So that tells you I had a whole life before the FBI that existed. I came out of high school, went into college in Oklahoma. I ran restaurants, I sold computers, I sold radio airtime in the Bay Area. In San Francisco, I worked for a movie studio for a little while, worked for Warner Brothers doing finance.
Felt like my life was not being fulfilled, that I wasn’t doing whatever men are supposed to be doing on the earth, creating or destroying something. So I joined the United States Air Force to go be a combat controller, which is a special operations gig. I moved into another one where another special operations gig called Pararescue. So I became a medic and an air traffic controller, and I was air airborne qualified, and I became a combat diver and a couple other things. And then for various reasons, did not end up finishing training, not because I couldn’t, but because I wasn’t scheduled for it.
And so I left and tried to figure out what my purpose was. And here I was in my 30s, looking around going like, what the heck am I doing in this earth? Started working for a hospital, did emergency medicine. So I worked as a paramedic, both in a hospital and on an ambulance, and then finally joined the FBI in 2016. Briefly in the FBI, I worked counterintelligence against the Chinese for a couple years. I found that to be immensely boring. And I also didn’t understand how it was even close to constitutional. What we did. Requested an out.
I actually did my first whistleblower activity in 2017. So right after I got into the Bureau, which is not what people mostly think about, I went to my management at that point in time. Then I got into a surveillance unit and we did that. And that was kind of like the island of misfit toys, where nobody wanted to go because it’s where careers went to die. But it was the most fun you can really have as an FBI agent. I sat in a car every day and I looked at bad guys through binoculars and I told my friends what they were doing on, on, you know, radios.
And we coordinated with aircraft in the air and we followed drug dealers and child traffickers and white collar criminals and, you know, all kinds of interesting stuff. Did a little bit of everything. And a lot of our mission there was funded by the counterterrorism dollars that the FBI gets. So we followed various different high profile terrorist cases inside the FBI. I did that for about three years. It put me in Portland in 2020. That was real awkward. I got to see everything kind of shut down and the craziness that was going on outside of the federal courthouse there with antifa and so on.
And I started getting pretty jaded. And then we had the Summer of Love and some of the weird things that went on in DC. Lastly, I saw January 6th happen in, in 2021 and I wanted out of DC, like at all costs. And so I put in a transfer and I got a transfer a couple days after my third child was born. And we moved out to New Mexico where I thought I was leaving politics and all the stupid stuff. And I was just going to do regular FBI investigations of criminal activities on an Indian reservation in a little tiny place that no one’s ever heard of in New Mexico.
The city was Las Cruces, but the actual reservation was the Apache Indian reservation out there. And that turned out not to be the case because I got an email saying that the FBI was going to investigate parents at school board meetings. The rest is sort of history. I went to Congress with that and about four or five pages worth of individual single line allegations of malfeasance and wrongdoing. And I was short for the, for the FBI after that. I was removed in 2022. And then I started a podcast and started speaking out basically full time. I’m mostly an unpaid government transparency activist and I’m a part time guy with a PODC podcast that pays my bills.
Well, yeah, that’s what you turn into. So how many people in the FBI saw that and are just silent? I have to imagine a lot. But it’s, it’s. To be fair though, a lot of folks that work inside the bureau, I try to. This is why I upset people, because I actually do cut very fairly. A lot of people I met in the bureau don’t know what’s going on at all in the country. You’d be shocked to find how many have their nose down to their work and people. And here’s a great example that I like to give.
I met one of my friends who’s an agent in. In 2022, this was in March or April. We were sitting in a room and I was showing my boss a video that someone had mixed up of Hunter Biden, you know, doing cocaine, smacking prostitutes, sitting in a sensory deprivation chamber. All the stuff we’ve seen from the Hunter Biden laptop. And they had mixed it to a rap song. And the two of us were kind of laughing at it because it’s a funny thing to do. And you’re like, I cannot believe that this is the world we’re living in where that’s the President’s son.
And the guy looked at it and he goes, what is that? And I said, well, that’s the President’s son smoking crack cocaine and doing a bunch of other stuff. And he goes, oh, when did that happen? I said, well, that’s been out since October of 2020. When was this? Is in like April of 2022. So a solid, you know, probably close to two years later. And he’s like, oh, I had no idea. And that’s a great example of how few people knew what was going on. I think that if you query the average FBI employee, they probably didn’t know what happened outside of the generally sort of that George Floyd died.
They didn’t know what was going on in Portland. They didn’t understand the riots that were happening in the Chaz and the Chop in Seattle. So a lot of them have no awareness, whether it’s by choice or because they’re just like every other American that just wants to just go about their business. The problem is, is they’re in a national federal law enforcement agency where you think that because the. The mission is nationwide that they would have an awareness. I just don’t think they do. So that’s the fair answer to it, is that they didn’t even look because they didn’t even know that Merrick Garland appeared to lie in front of Congress.
Well, I think that there’s so much going on and that also people tend not to think big picture. They tend to think just what’s in their immediate surroundings. And that’s a bigger picture thing, right? I mean, if you think about it, part of the danger is that they’re. I don’t want to call it brainwashing, but every organization you Join has an indoctrination of some sort. I saw, in fact, I went through a class that was called in Doc. And it was, it was actually the thing I did in the Air Force where they. They instill you with the physical values and, and the sort of the work ethic that you have to do and to be successful in certain things.
So I’ve seen what a really aggressive indoc looks like. Basic training is an indoctrination of sorts. I mean, that’s why we send young people there, we break them down, we build them back up. And so at the FBI academy, when they teach new agents and analysts, the one thing I remember them repeating over and over again is that we are the most. We are the premier law enforcement agency in the world, and no one ever awarded us that. That was something the FBI told themselves they were, and then they just kept telling themselves. And the other thing I heard was that it’s the best job in the world.
And as an inquisitive, investigative type guy, which I was, and also as someone who was older than many of my classmates, because I went there when I was 36 years old, I said, well, what other jobs have you had? That’s the logical question. If you think it’s the best job in the world, you must have something to judge it by. And usually what they would tell me is that they started out of college in the FBI and then eventually they became FBI agents. And that’s not really a great ground to stand on, if you’re being totally honest.
Being an FBI agent is the best job in the FBI, but it’s not the best job in the world. It’s not even close. Well, every industry, every profession has their brainwashing, because I know, that’s what I was told when I was in college, that you guys are the smartest, best people in the, in the country, you know, that kind of stuff. And, and I talk to other people and they all get that same messaging. So I think it’s part of that pride of what you do. And they all say it. They do. The FBI tells you that all the time, that there were 10,000 people that wanted to sit in your seat and only a thousand were interviewed across the way.
And then you’re the only one who got there. And so, you know, my instinct has always been sort of this. It’s not fake humility, it’s sort of like just self deprecation, because I do some things very well and I think I’m pretty capable in a lot of different fields. And I’ve Been able to be successful in very short time and various different things I’ve done. But I’m also going to always underplay my resume because I think it’s silly. So I remember standing up at the back of the class in the. At the beginning of my training and they went around the room and I’m s.
So I’m at the back of the class and, you know, in the back of the S’s. And they asked everybody, you know, where what did you used to do and where did you go to school? And, you know, a couple of like, things, what was your major? And this kind of thing. So everybody gave these, like, great stories about how awesome they were. And so you heard about how they were a SWAT team leader on the former PD and they graduated from a military academy. They used to work for the CIA. They were a, you know, a journalist in Bogot or whatever.
Like, you know, I was a United States Attorney’s office employee. Something they’d all tell you they were a DA or they were whatever, you know, an accountant at a Fortune 50 company. So they all had these great resumes and they got to me. And my previous job was that I was at home because I quit my job. I was trained to do the FBI. My. My wife was working and it was before we had our first child. We had just been married for about a year or so or two years maybe. So I was a stay at home dad with no kids that like took care of our dogs, made my wife breakfast every morning, you know, went for a run, did a bunch of PT and stuff like that.
And I did training in medicine. So I just stood up and said I was a stay at home dad with no kids. I went to the University of Oklahoma and my job was, you know, or my, you know, previous degree was in multidisciplinary studies, which is not particularly interesting. And then I sat back down and nobody knew what to do with that. So the attitude in the Bureau oftentimes is like, how can you tell? Like, they actually told me one time that the way that you get a job in the bureau and the way that you actually pump yourself up for the next job is explaining how you, yourself and I save the world with your own actions.
And coming out of my previous experience, particularly working in emergency medicine. Nobody is saved without a team. You know, there’s gotta be someone who makes the phone call to 91 1. There’s gonna be someone who drives the ambulance, usually an EMT basic. Then you got the paramedic on scene who’s gonna help load them up. Then you might have some firefighters who get him into the back of the ambulance. And then the EMT is working again, maybe with a critical care technician. You get to the er, there’s a whole team of people in the trauma room that tries to save them.
And then they go to a surgical suite. At every one of those is a team eventually. And so the things I did in the military, the things I did in finance, the things that I did in emergency medicine, they’re all team. And the FBI tried to always kind of acts like you’re an individual out there personally saving the world. And I think it goes to some people’s heads because you get that attitude when you meet people, they, they think that they personally embody the FBI. And I’ll give you the great example of that. If I were to carry my credentials up to your door and knock on your door and somebody opened the door for you at your house and I flashed them.
Kyle Seraphin, FBI the call would go up the stairs, Sarah, the FBI is here, the entire FBI. But it’s just me. It always was just one person. Well, I would get into super protective mode at that point. Oh, you should just close the door. I would be like, what the heck is this? Yeah, but the FBI has tarnished their image so much that if the FBI came up to my door, everybody would be freaked out. And they don’t really like, especially in roles like mine, they would immediately go into self defense, forward as you should. My advice has been very candid to people.
And I used to do this with people too. Because look, there’s no reason that you have to talk to federal law enforcement. There’s no reason you have to talk to law enforcement at all. If you called them, then you probably should because you’re looking for something. But if they proactively kind of show up at your door, I, I remember the scene that Alec Baldwin did in Glengarry Glen Ross, which is a famous scene for sales guys, which I used to do. And I used to do sales, whether on the phone, knocking on the door or corporate business to business, whatever ABC was, always be closing.
And so you remember that when you’re a salesperson, you’re always closing, you’re always working on closing. If somebody knocks on your door from the FBI, you should be abcd, always be closing the door because there’s no reason for you to talk to them. Like have them leave a card, have an attorney reach out on your behalf. The reason people talk is because attorney is expensive too. A lot of People can’t afford is. But then you don’t reach out at all because you don’t need to if they want to submit. I’ve had this before where I had an ATF agent knock on my door while I was an FBI agent, by the way.
And I have a friend who’s an attorn, and I let him know about it. He goes, well, you can forward it to me, but just, let’s just contact him and send over a letter saying if you have any questions, please submit them in writing. There’s nothing wrong with that. You didn’t do anything wrong. You don’t owe them any answers. And you could choose whether you want to answer them or not, and they can choose whether they’re going to ask them or not. And if they’re going to investigate you and there’s evidence of, of, of wrongdoing or criminal activity, they’re going to have to find it without your help.
You actually have a fifth amendment right to do that. You don’t have to say anything to them, so there’s no reason to. And so that’s like honest advice from a guy who used to do the job. And I did it really honestly. I would tell people, you don’t have to talk to me, and I won’t hold it against you if you don’t. And usually people did talk to me because I’m pretty chatty. Okay, well, do they hold it against you in general if you don’t? I guess the answer is who cares? Because what are they going to do that they still.
I’m just. They’re not going to use your words against you, that’s for sure. They’re not going to write down that you said something that you didn’t say. Your best bet, aggressive to go after. You see here’s the thing is that, that what you experienced and what you watched, you watched them go after innocent people who were just standing up for their own rights and they, they were weaponizing their position. I, I mean, you still are seeing it. You see, it’s a, there’s a whole weaponization against dissidents in this country. Anybody that doesn’t agree with whoever’s in power.
And that was the whole point of our constitution. And the, because they were dissidents against the, the Crown, you know, the British royalty, they were dissidents. They left and form their own thing because they didn’t want that kind of suppression. Now we’re suffering under that same boot of suppression. I am a targeted person. I’ve been deplatformed Everywhere, simply because I don’t agree with everything that they and I come across as intelligent. So I am suppressed. I am a targeted person. So I clearly, I intimately understand how bad this is. You got to see it from the inside.
How many. I got to see it from the outside too, to be fair, because they subpoenaed my records. They, they criminally investigated me. We just exposed this. We actually have a future lawsuit about to drop on, on behalf of X corporations lawyers who came forward, but they defended our right to speak, there being me and a guy named Garrett o’ Boyle, who’s a friend of mine. But yeah, they, they actually listen if they’re willing to go after me. And I worked there and people knew me. You know, I had friends. I still have friends that work in the FBI and that agency went and investigated me.
If they’ll do that to somebody that works there, what will they do to you? Why would you ever talk to these people? Like, I wouldn’t unless I run a tape recorder and I know what I’m doing and I only ask questions or I proactively give them information that I want them to have that I already know what I’m going to say. Well, I’ve seen some people that, you know, I interviewed people from during the January 6, where their families were held up at gunpoint with the SWAT team of 50 FBI agents. And they didn’t do anything wrong.
So it, it’s an abuse of power, clearly. But if you know, you have a high profile essentially because, you know, you have all these people wanting to talk to you, but an average everyday person who has been targeted for being a dissident is, has very little recourse. Right? So I agree. That’s the only, the only differential though, right now, so I’ll put this back, is that I didn’t have a high profile. I had no profile at all. And the only reason that I did what I did in the way that I did it was because the, the safety was in the profile.
What they would call protection of the microphone. It gives you more protection than you think. But, But Congress wanted to talk to you. You know, they never did. I thought they did. I, I did. No, I’m the only one who didn’t. And there’s a reason why. Because I was told through an intermediary that Jim Jordan’s committee thought that I was too politically hot to speak to. And then I spoke my mind too plainly. So you’ve seen testimony from my friend Garrett o’ Boyle. He’s a really great guy. You’ve seen Steve Friend who’s went out there and spoke.
You saw Marcus Allen who brought out there. Those guys all play within a closer kind of. They’re a little nicer than I am. I’ve never been particularly nice. I’m willing to, you know, kind of I was an enlisted guy. Like that’s just the mindset that I have. And so I went at this like there is no going back. I burned the bridges and the ships the day that I landed on the shore and I went, it’s all the way or nothing at all. So I didn’t have the protection of having a member of Congress care about me.
I bluffed the FBI with it once they said they wanted to bring me in for questioning and I said, sure, I’m just going to bring a member of Congress with me. And they panicked and they canceled the interview. Which was funny because no member of Congress agreed to go with me. And when I asked, they said no. But the FBI didn’t know that, you know, until they got my Google records, which they subpoenaed and got all my emails. So that’s fun. But that happened afterwards. At the time they didn’t know what to do. So it’s a really ugly animal that’s willing to target people that work within it.
And obviously they went after people who were from January 6th and they went after people who are pro life Christians and I’ve spoken to them as well. You know, they went after people who stood up at abortion clinics. That’s one of my whistleblower disclosures which I put out there in 2021 is that I knew that we had prioritized what they called anti abortion violent extremists as the number three threat in the state of New Mexico. And there were exactly two abortion clinics in New Mexico at the time, one of which only prescribed pills. The other was a surgical facility in Albuquerque.
And we had guys from the, from the counterterrorism team go down and do interviews of little old ladies who had scraped their money together and bought an ultrasound machine and learned how to use it. And they were doing ultrasounds trying to talk women in to keep their babies. And they were the biggest terrorist threat. They were the number three threat in a, in a state that borders Mexico and has enormous cartel like sort of controlled border. So when that’s what’s going on, that, that’s, that’s the, the, the frustration is somebody like me or somebody, you know, people bringing truth to the public or different, different opinions to the public being targeted to the degree that we’re targeted.
You know that we are being run by a bunch of thugs and criminal gangs because you wouldn’t suppress some of this information that they’re suppressing if they were legit. Just a quick break from the program that I want to tell you that on this Wednesday, Wednesday 28th at 5pm Central, 6pm Eastern we will me and Andy Schectman are going to have a Q and A so that you can join a free webinar Q and A so you can learn about what you can do to protect your assets as the financial system is ready to reset. So if you are interested in learning more about what you can do, it’s a question and answer session about how you can protect your assets.
It’s going to be this Wednesday, Wednesday the 28th at 5pm Central, 6pm Eastern. If you are somebody that might have been scammed in your ira, which is tragic, I recommend that you show up and ask questions about that as well. If you even think that you might have been it’s really good opportunity to come and ask questions. Again, it’s this coming Wednesday the 28th at 5pm Central, 6pm Eastern. I will have the link below so that you can can you have to register so there will be a link below or you can go to the website Sarah Wessel.com Q&A it’s the worst situation.
The funny thing is is that and this is maybe the danger because I constantly am upsetting people that are on, you know, the so called right. I, I like to think of myself as a, I’m not a Republican first of all I’m a conservative and I’m quite conservative but I’m independent and I’m willing to make my own mind up on every individual issue and I don’t care who’s in charge of anything. Whenever it comes down to government, the bigger the government structure so federal at the top, I want the least amount of it, period, whatever that looks like and then the same thing for the state.
And lastly if it’s going to be close to me, I want to at least be able to look my mayor in the eye in a grocery store and let them know that I don’t like what they’re doing. So the smaller the gov, you know, the closer the government is to me, the more I’m willing to afford it some power and I still don’t want it to have that much power. I, I had a conversation with my, my sheriff’s department because we were getting people swatted. You saw that the other in the last couple Months. So people were getting reached out to.
And then the SWAT teams would show up. And these are various different quote unquote conservative influencers or you know, media and so on. I talked to like eight people that had SWAT team show up at their house. I was on Alex Jones’s show and, and he had people show up. I was on Owen Schroyer show and, and, and he had people show up outside of his house. I was on, I was on Chase’s show over on in Forsworth too because they’re all in Austin. I’m close by. So the crazy thing was is I reached out to my sheriff’s department and I just said, look, I don’t, I don’t want you guys responding to my home at, at code.
I don’t want you turning on your lights and sirens and rushing out to my house if anything happens. I can assure you that is a former, as a former guy who was a federal law enforcement officer, who was an emergency medic both in the military and the civilian world. I have trauma gear at my house. I have rifles and body armor, night vision helmets and thermal scopes. If somebody is trying to get into my home and hurt my family, I’m going to deal with it first. I promise you I’ll call you guys. I promise you I will.
But like don’t come rushing over here to try to save things. And I’m not going to snap. I’ve been through all kinds of wild stuff already and I’ve been fine. So like, so they laughed about it and then they said, you know, well, we still have to show up, sir. And then they looked up who I was, saw what was going on in the media, saw that there was a story that said I was advising Cash Patel before he was made FBI director. And they called me back up and said, let’s get a couple of forms of contact for you so we can reach out to your wife if you know, we get a phone call to try to vet what’s going on.
But now that’s, that’s what, that’s what should happen. Well, but that’s my point. You’re, you are higher profile right now. You’re talking to a lot of high profile people. The person down the street who doesn’t have that, that suddenly finds themselves targeted. That’s what is happening is everyday people who are just trying to stick up for their own rights are being, it’s kind of like taking a wild horse and, and domesticating them. It’s almost like they’re trying to domesticate the Public to not stand up for their own rights. Yes, I would agree with that. 100. So.
So that tells you what the responsibility is for people like you and me. Our job is to lobby for. For less of all of the things that can go out and be weaponized. So the answer to weaponized government is not get new people in control who are going to tame the weapon. It’s dismantle the weapon so that if somebody wants to use it again, they have to rebuild it completely and start from scratch. That’s the real answer. It always should be that we. We tear this stuff down. So what? I use my. My voice for the way that I have it and my advocacy for anybody that wants to go out there.
The answer is not reformed FBI. It’s less FBI. The answer is not reformed dhs. It’s left. Or maybe no dhs. You and I are both old enough. I’m just eyeballing. We’re old enough to remember when there was no DHS and we still had a country. It turned out well, like we were. We’re able to survive as a country. People who are a little bit older than me, people I’ve worked with, remember when there was no Pfizer. FISA is a relatively new construction. And we acted like if we didn’t have fisa, the world would fall apart and national security would fail.
They created that in the mid to late 70s that didn’t come into existence till almost the end of the Cold War. We managed to do 25, 30 years of cold War with Russia and all the intel assets that were going at. At us without fisa. And now it’s a indispensable tool. The answer has always been, is less of that nonsense. Why? Why should you have that? You know, the government should have to explain to you why they should be able to encroach on your freedoms. And the scary thing is the courts have actually sided with the federal government almost every time under what’s called state secrets.
So it’s imperative, as someone from behind that, that. That side of the aisle, who worked in those agencies, who’ve seen what those tools are and how easily they’re abused. I mean, before I started speaking out, and one of the reasons that I started in 2017 is I said, we’re abusing FISA. So that’s kind of a little segue to it. But we were abusing FISA like the FBI was millions of times a year. I mean, they just like to see them. No, they told me. They told me to shut up. They told me, you don’t understand what the mission is.
And I was like, yeah, I know. That’s what I’m telling you. I don’t understand what you’re doing. I think it’s illegal. I think what you’re doing is illegal. But do they have. Do they get on a power trip and they don’t give a crap? I think it’s worse than that. I think it’s. I, it goes back to what we started off with, talking about how they’ve been indoctrinated. People have been indoctrinated to believe that what they’re. They’re the best at what they do. Okay, so that starts from now. You’ve already been pumped up to believe that you’re at some standard that other people don’t live up to.
And then you’re told that your agency is the best at what it does. And the scariest thing is what my friend Rob Green calls institution over constitution. This happens in a lot of different agencies. It happens in companies where you have loyalty not to principles, but to the place where you work. So the number one sin in the FBI is actually not breaking the law. You’d think it is. You’d think that people who broke the law, whose job it is to. They swear to uphold the constitution. It’s actually embarrassing the FBI and I imagine the CIA has something very similar to that.
I know different DOD units have the same idea. If you embarrass US Police departments, if you embarrass the badge, if you make us look bad in public, that is the unforgivable sin. Well, but they’ve done enough already to make them feel bad. You would think. I mean, they don’t. Because they’re so blind to themselves. They don’t realize they’re walking around making themselves look so bad all the time because they’re so blind to their own behavior. But so when you’re inside these organizations, which you were, what kind of abuses did you see? I mean, you saw the abuse against their going after parents at school board meetings, which was incredible.
What other kinds of things did you see? So a lot of the stuff that I saw was it was people who probably should have just asked a couple of reasonable questions and didn’t. And, and so it’s almost, it’s almost never nefarious at the, the rank and file and, or the people who are carrying it out, the foot, shoulder levels. There’s a great book that’s called Ordinary Men, and it just shows you how regular people become Nazis and atrocious war criminals. And it’s worth reading. And interestingly enough, the way that I actually knew to spot this sort of thing did come from training that I got in the FBI.
Go figure. As part of the. I think it was Comey’s revamp, they did this trip to the Holocaust Memorial Museum and all the people that are kind of conspiratorial on the right right now and think that the Jews are the problem with everything, which I think is strange. The ADL has a. Has a hand in creating this training. And for whatever it’s worth, as someone who doesn’t care about Israel and I don’t care about almost any other countries outside the United States, I just want America to be successful. The ADL did a really good job with this training.
They put you through the Holocaust Memorial Museum, and they basically lay out the factual pattern of behavior when minor government officials and law enforcement and military do not question what would otherwise be obviously illegal orders. And you’re supposed to know what those things look like. If you don’t question those orders, nobody is able to make you do something that is violating other people’s rights and, or taking their lives or, or abusing, you know, any of their. Their individual liberties without you going along with it. And the crazy thing is, but if they fire you for questioning those orders, then everybody who has the attitude of questioning it is already out of the organization and they’re trained.
That’s exactly what happened question. That’s what they did. The point is, if you’re going to be hiring people, people that, yeah, they found it. I called it a compliance purge to Jim Jordan’s office. If you’re actually doing the thing that you’re supposed to be doing, you should be asking those questions every day. And do I have a legal authority to do what I’m doing? Which is what I did, would say, hey, I had a guy one time, he said we were following a terrorist subject who was legitimately crazy, probably, probably either bipolar or schizophrenic, and was doing really dangerous stuff.
Not federal, but like driving 120 miles an hour on surface streets, waking up in the middle of the night, not sleeping for a month and a half, two months, three months at a time, reading the Quran, crying, sobbing, racking a gun in his apartment alone, then driving past the Pulse nightclub because he got excited about previous terrorists, like, you know, dangerous stuff. And there’s no crime in that, by the way. That’s just scary. So we were watching it, except the speeding thing, where you’re doing 120 and a plane is keeping up with you. And you’ve got, you know, federal agents tailing you at one in the morning on the way to Orlando.
That’s kind of a thing where maybe somebody would pull that guy over. But no federal crime. And the question was always like, how are we not gonna stop this guy with the state? They didn’t want to because they wanted to keep the federal case going. And then at one point, they realized because they had some intel that he might do a home invasion, robbery, and murder, take over some wealthy people’s house, and then do a murder base out of there where he went and did this terrorist spree. That was what the plan was. And they had intercepted it somehow.
And so they said, whatever you do, do not let him walk up to somebody’s property and knock on the door and take over the house. And it’s like, okay, well, that’s a good. That’s a good idea. I don’t think we should have him take over somebody’s house. But what legal authority do I have? That was the question that we had my entire team, and they’re like, we’ll get back to you. And they never had an answer for us. And so now you’re out in the field, and there’s eight people watching a guy who’s clearly demonstrating erratic and dangerous and probably emotionally disturbed behavior.
And you have a credible threat of danger and a bunch of ideology behind it. And he swore allegiance to ISIS or whatever it was. And you’re like, they don’t want me to have him kill anybody, and I don’t want anyone to kill anybody. And I have no legal authority to act until he does something that, like, produces a weapon, you know, kicks down somebody’s door. And then I still don’t have a lot of things because it’s a federal crime. So you’re really in a bad spot as an FBI agent. And so nobody’s asking those questions. What authority do I even have to be doing this? Could you, in that kind of situation, could you just provide protection to a house? Like, could you just go and.
And that’s where. Which one? I don’t know. Like, if you. I didn’t either, because he was driving around, he was going from Tampa to Orlando. So we didn’t know what house he was going to hit. We didn’t know where he was going to go. Like, theoretically you could, but what are you going to do? Providing protection? Like, you’re not arresting. We just followed him around. That’s a lot of what the FBI does for counterterrorism is they follow People they think might do something bad. In the meantime, though, and you have to understand this too, because this is the root of the real problem.
The FBI was incentivized to go after those pro lifers, was incentivized to go after the J6ers. They’re incentivized to go after potential jihadis. But that guy wasn’t crazy enough on his own to do the thing that they needed him to do to get a federal crime. So not only is my team of eight people and another eight people on a different shift and another eight people on a different shift than that following this guy around 24 7, they’re also giving him undercovers that are trying to get him radicalized to do more Islamic terror stuff. And they’re planting ideas and asking him, what sort of terrorists would you do? And could you swear me into ISIS too? And how would I make my video? And you know, when should we do it and what kind of weapons do we need and what kind of explosives do we require? And so they’re sitting here getting this guy ramped up.
Meanwhile they’re asking me, don’t let him kill somebody in some random neighborhood that we don’t know what it’s going to be. And don’t let him drive over anybody at the beach when he drives down there. Okay, so that’s the problem they were. See, now that’s what happened on January 6th. Right. We had. And that’s the jokes like the Babylon B does and stuff where, you know, the famous joke going with Whitmer, like all the people were FBI agents. There’s that video. It’s funny if people haven’t done it. That’s the kind of stuff that we see where the FBI is creating the criminals that they’re going after.
Yeah. Instead of calming these people down, where do they get the jurisdiction to do that? And why would they do that? And what, you know, what is, is there a higher level thing going on? Absolutely. Of course. It’s. It’s the oldest thing in the world. It’s called greed. Well, is there, is there purpose? Are they, is it just greed or they chaotic. Trying to create chaos in the western countries to screw up this country. So that’s a bigger, that’s a bigger. Like, is there a globalist cartel that’s out there trying to push that? You know, and, and yeah, and I’m friends with Alex Jones or at least I’m acquaintances of Alex Jones.
And so I get that idea. I don’t have evidence of it. I see the same things, you do. And I didn’t see evidence when I worked at the Bureau. What I can see and what I can, what I can speak to articulately is that there is a danger and it’s the oldest danger in the world which is self aggrandizing and it is promotion and it is financial reward. And so I will break it down really clearly because every time I get a chance to talk to an audience, this is the biggest takeaway. I made it. I helped make a whole movie.
So hold on a second. So even though you haven’t seen it, but systematically the systems and the procedures are in place to do what? To do that global agenda. But you, but those systems and procedures, we aren’t necessarily sure where they’re coming from. Yeah, it’s just as likely to be a bunch of co aligned interests. And when I explain to you why I think that the people do the things they do, it doesn’t require. So. Okay, so I grew up in the, in the 80s and the 90s and I recall sitting and watching the X Files with my parents and as a teenager like getting really excited, watch Fox Molder.
And of course there was the cancer man. And they’re sitting around the table and they’re all smoking and dressed nicely, wearing overcoats and deciding what the world’s going to do and what dastardly things are going to do to Americans. Right. And so you’re like, so is his unit. It was based on. He’s the X File guy. But go ahead. Well, you’re, you’re supposed to believe that there’s this like cartel of shadowy people that are pulling the strings and making America do what it does. And I don’t have any evidence that’s the case. I think that the people personally.
Go ahead. No, I think what happens is, is that people are basically trying to increase their own careers. They see where the funding and where the attention span is. And so at. Let’s go Back to like September 12th of 2001, this is the easiest way to track this thing. And there’s obviously examples from Pat Con and going back to even the Palmer Raids in the nineteen teens when the FBI was first in its nascent form. You know, they went after free speech and they went after people who are communists which are allowed to be in the United States.
And they went after other subversive elements and they went after civil rights leaders and homosexuals and like, you name it. The FBI has had a sin in every single decade. They’ve done nefarious things that are terrible and they should be ashamed of. And yet they came out looking like these like polished guys. But after September 12th of 2001, we had a very nefarious change. It was really subtle and we all agreed to it kind of on accident, especially people that were conservative and were pro Patriot act right up front and now they regret it. And that’s all fine.
I’m a sophomore in college at the time. On September 12, 2001, the United States accepted a new definition of national security. I got this from my friend George Hill who worked at the NSA. He worked at the FBI. He was a 26 year veteran of military intelligence. The United States changed that definition very subtly for everybody, which said previously that the Constitution is the supreme form of law in the United States. It’s the governing document by which we live. And the constitutional republic that we that we live under has to prevail for American national security to be successful.
That’s the mission of national security. Continue. The United States, September 12, the mission changed to no American dies from terrorist hands on US soil. Now that’s a no fail mission. If no American is going to die from terrorism again, you are guaranteeing tyrannical implementation of policy. It’s the only way you can do it. Think about the COVID lockdowns that we heard happened in China, right? If you think nobody is going to die from COVID we’re going to go to zero Covid, then you’re going to lock people into their homes, you’re going to weld them shut so they don’t interact with other people, die of everything else.
They die of everything else. But no Covid. People from dying from COVID is to kill him off in other ways. That’s exactly correct though. But that’s tyranny. That’s what tyranny looks like. It comes in under the guise of protection and it gives you and it says surrender all your freedom so that I can properly prosecute this single focus mission. Now in the early 2000s, the FBI took on that mission. They took it from Robert Mueller and they adopted this idea that they were going to have this fused intelligence capability and law enforcement. So they were going to run operations against what they called international terrorism, or it.
And those took the form of looking for people who came from foreign places, made it into the United States to set up terror cells and attack the United states a la September 11th. And they ran out of those like relatively quickly within about four or five years because we had the gwat going on. For all the veterans that are listening, they know what it was. They all deployed for this kind of thing. I signed up to be in that same military force that was. That was supporting this effort. The terrorists were tied up where they were.
And so you didn’t have terrorists coming to the United States because they’re fighting like the United States came to them. So they went and dealt with that problem, and they mostly lost, like, aggressively. So when you ran out of that mission at home, and there’s still a big funding package that’s putting it out there, the FBI went and found a new thing, and they called that hve. It’s always acronyms in the. In the. The government. HVE is a homegrown violent extremist. And an HVE is someone that’s born in the United States or naturalized as a citizen here.
They find a foreign ideology. Al Qaeda, Al Shabaab, isis, take your pick. They. They align with it, and then they attempt to do a mission here. Usually it’s the lone wolf thing that we hear about. So hves are inspired by overseas, but they are domestic people. And so now you’ve got the FBI going from being like a watchtower, a guard standing out there and watching anybody trying to come in, like a military base, to now looking inside the base, and it’s more like a prison. And so they are looking around who in America is a threat to America? We’re looking for these hves, and they ran out of them as well.
And so we kind of documented this fairly decently with Dimesh d’ Souza’s book, sorry movie, the. The Police State, which was essentially the. The sort of evolution. Now, remember, foreign terrorists, kind of heroes of the left. They were like, the. The libs are out there going like, oh, you got to protect the Muslims that are from overseas and the immigrants and so on. They did the same thing for the HPEs, because these are like immigrant populations. So they fit into this category of people that are protected. They ran out of those two. And then they started looking at people that were like, in a militia group or people that might like the second Amendment and have a Betsy Ross flag on their wall.
Like you see, you know, yours truly has. Maybe they have a tomahawk that looks like a Revolutionary War tomahawk. And that person could be really problematic. So you start looking for other people that are threats, because you’re already looking inside your own house. You’re already turned your watchtowers inward. And so they started looking for all of these people. And then they started finding out what these, quote unquote, violent extremists. We’ve already had homegrown violent extremists. So let’s make up some new ones. So we had militia violent extremists. We had anti abortion violent extremists. We had anti government, anti authority violent extremists, AKA MAGA people.
That’s what that ended up being. And they created codes to look for this. Now in the FBI, they have like a funding category, but hold on. They actually turned any extremists into anything that doesn’t agree with whatever policy they have. Correct. I mean, it became completely obnoxious. So. Right. So there’s. There’s a second part. A very innocent person who just doesn’t agree with your lockdown. Allen was suddenly an extremist. Of course. Yeah. No, that’s how that works. I mean, that’s, that’s because what you did was you took the. The intel agency and you let the intel agency run the law enforcement.
Everybody thinks the FBI is a law enforcement agency that can do intelligence work. The FBI thinks that they’re an intelligence agency that also has a law enforcement capability. That’s a real problem. That’s called a secret police. In every Western democracy that’s ever listed. Like, pretty much every European country that had those things together, they were called secret police. It doesn’t matter what you call them, you know, Stasi or Gestapo or like, take your pick. The Stasi would Dr. Over the surveillance. Oh, yeah, yeah. So if you’re. And so would all the Russians. It’s so good. Yeah.
And so to having these. That’s our issue now. You got complete control over people’s. You can see everything once you get the decide they’re a terrorist threat. Think, think who gave. Gave that to him, though? We did. We did it because it was convenient. We did it because it was convenient. And it was ubiquitous. And it was available because you sign terms of service agreements the same way I do. We don’t read what’s in those. We have no idea what sort of things they’re going after. So if it’s convenient and it doesn’t cost you very much, you’re the product.
So we’ve given it. But what do you do? Like, just to bank, you know, like, just to do banking, you have to do this. So basically you can’t function without agreeing to some of these things. There’s. There’s ways to do it, and it is so cumbersome. If somebody wants to do, like, listen, if somebody in your audience wants to do it. And I have no association with this man, but Michael Bazelle wrote a book about it. It’s called extreme privacy. He writes a new update to it. Like everybody, Eric Meter have a privacy academy. So there are ways you can do it.
It’s really cumbersome. It’s basically a full time enterprise to make yourself like that. And it costs money. Usually you have to pay consultants to do it. So you can do it. They’ve generally been a bit. And they make it easier for people and we do. I’ve done a seminar, I need to do another seminar with them. But you’re right, it’s. It’s effort, a ton of effort. It’s far easier to go along with it, which is what people are counting on. That’s why there are, you know, that’s why we have an information industrial complex in the same way that we used to have a.
You know, we continue to have a military industrial complex. The information industrial complex is the combination of the intel agencies getting in bed with private and. And so those are where. These are your. Yeah, your Googles, your metas, your, your Facebooks or whatever else is out there that’s gathering information on you. John Karaoko put out a substack where he was doing a tour, like a 36 stop tour where he was doing a speech to, you know, doing this. And it was 2400 tickets in an auditorium about every time I go and he was selling out all these venues and then suddenly they, they went to the next one and they had sold seven tickets, nobody showed up.
And that’s what’s happening. They’re like, what’s going on? Meta decided they didn’t like them, shut down their access. That’s the kind of power that they have. He suddenly, now you can’t. He was able, they were able to push back. They had powerful people behind him. You know, he’s the CIA whistleblower or they had powerful people behind them. That is changing. They’re making it work. Yep. But that kind of, that’s what people are dealing with right now, that kind of level of tyranny. I love that example because it’s so crystal clear of the power that they have when they decide to use it.
Well, it’s the same thing that my buddy Garrett said in front of Congress, which people remember he had the long hair and the beard and he said, yeah, he said, they will crush you. They will crush you. They can crush you. If we. Here’s what they did to Garrett that’s so crushing because he worked for the FBI and he didn’t have any. Like, he had no negative record, just like I had no negative record. We both won awards every year that we were there. Garrett had a brand new baby that was two weeks old. He’d already sold his house and accepted a promotion to D.C.
to go to a new unit. And when he was in between, having sold one house and was in the middle of, he was in escrow to buy the other house, they canceled him, they took his paycheck and they suspended him in between houses with a two week old baby and three other children. And then they held on to all of his household goods, put it into a warehouse in Virginia and didn’t let him have him back. So for about four months in the, in the Wisconsin winter, him and his family lived in a freaking RV that his family owned because he had no home.
And so luckily he had the proceeds from his home sale. But they screwed him as hard as they could to shut him up and send the message that if you do this, and we have whistleblowers from inside the agent, the FBI that actually saw this happen, they said they wanted to F him over. Those were the actual words being used. And they knew he didn’t do the thing. Here’s the crazy thing thing, the reason Garrett was canceled, the reason why he lost his job, is because the FBI accused him of what I did. And they knew it was me, but they couldn’t get me because they’d already suspended me.
They knew it wasn’t freaking him, See, they knew it wasn’t him right away. That’s what they were. That’s what they. By canceling people’s bank accounts when you then they have the power to work with the financial institutions and online tech and all this stuff. They’re canceling people’s bank accounts. They’re canceling people’s to even pay their employees. Like the whole businesses were getting their bank accounts shut down and their assets frozen so they couldn’t pay their employees to function. I mean, these kinds of things I had in the peak of 2020, I had through grapevine intelligence agents tell me that they could take my house if I didn’t, you know, things I pretty much told them that I just ignored it.
But that’s the kind of abuse that people get behind the scenes. Or journalists are getting that all the time. That’s the kind of stuff people are dealing with. It’s real, it’s not. I’m not. We’re not making things up. Like there’s too many examples of this to be not. So the thing that they can’t count on is because the information can spread and it’s very difficult to suppress. If people have an interest in the signal, which there’s a huge interest because of what happened in January 6th, because of what happened in 2020 with COVID That’s my take on it.
I think that the. The goal post got moved too far while we were all watching, especially because people were just sitting at home trying to figure out if they could go to their job. And when they saw it move and they went, oh, this is rigged. This situation is rigged. But what they would have missed otherwise, because it happened for 20 years before that, you slow. You slowly saw, as I said, a creep from the outside to the inside, from the inside, from target to target of opportunity. It wasn’t a nefarious targeting of, like, how do we go after conservatives? Because that’s when people started getting pissed that.
Listen to me, they were like, aha, the FBI is targeting conservatives. No, no, no, no, no. The FBI is looking for how to make its budget bigger, which cash Patel even went out and said the other day, which is not a great sign. He wants to grow the budget. We’re going to fight for our headcount. And all the things that FBI directors always do, they always want to grow their agency. The danger was they went from these. These terrorist subjects, which were legitimately threats to the homeland. International terrorism is still a real problem. It’s worse after Biden because we had.
We had millions of people come into this country. God knows who they were. We had a hundred thousand Afghan refugees. I brought information to Congress telling them them. We had people on the bases at Fort Bliss and at Holloman Air Force Base. We had 10,000 Afghan parolees on each one of those. So in my area, we had 20,000 Afghans. Okay? And I was responsible for doing investigations into major crimes that might happen on those military bases if the Afghans were involved. So a beating, a rape, a murder, like you like, serious physical assault with loss of limber or function.
We were out there doing those investigations, and people walked off every day. They just walked off. They just went, I’m in New Mexico. That’s America. They had no right, no one had any right to stop them. There’s no federal nexus or authority. So you had Afghans that came in here by jumping on a plane somewhere in Afghanistan, landing in Qatar or maybe in Germany and then getting rerouted, and no one knew what the hell they were doing. No one went through all their stuff. They had cash, they had cell phones, and they walked off into the desert and they’re in America.
We don’t Know who they are. Okay. A lot of them. Well, you just talked about how they were instigating. The FBI was instigating these people to do crime. Crime, Right. You explained how they did it. Now imagine what the US military is doing. Like what we did in Afghanistan. The way we pulled out. I had whistleblowers on and people who were there and it was like a killing field in Afghanistan. It was awful because of what Biden did. Now that is the behavior what the FBI is doing to instigate people to do crime there. We are on steroids around the world doing crap like that.
And then we brought it here to justify the military that we have. Have. That’s right. Yes. Yeah. All. I mean, although I don’t disagree with any of that. The, the, the narrow focus that I’m able to see and what I was able to see professionally is that these people came in to this country and we don’t know who they are. Meanwhile, remember, they’re here in 2021. The Biden administration took a huge loss. Political like they took a lot of face value loss because people get behind the troops. They lost 13 people at Abbey Gate. This is not forgotten.
My parents have a memorial in their front yard. My dad never served in the military. I did. And he has a memorial in front of his house that everybody sees. It takes up like several hundred square feet and it’s got a flag up that’s always lit and it’s got a picture of every single either marine or airman or soldier that was lost there. And there’s a. There’s a cross for each one of them. And then people walk in their neighborhood every day and stop and reflect that. That’s what happened. So the Biden administration had to do something about that and they did.
They did a Covid mandate, right? That’s what happens next. They rolled out and they said, we need compliance. We need people that are going to be good soldiers and do what we say in these federal agencies. And Americans saw it and it was a big problem because a lot of Americans didn’t want it. Remember, they went after the private sector first with osha, then they came after the public sector, then they went after the military and they went for total compliance across the board with everybody. And if you spoke up, you were a problem. They also made a huge thing out of two things that I think are very related.
They went after January 6, which was not anywhere worse on a single day than what I saw in Portland on a single night, because Portland was easily more wild than that. It Just wasn’t in like a high profile place. But they were attacking a federal courthouse. Minneapolis was insane. It happened in Washington D.C. before that. For all of 2020, there were fights outside of the White House. The President Trump was run into a bunker. The day after he was in the bunker, I was out in front of the White House lawn on the north side with a surveillance team and we’re standing there in plate carriers and rifles because they wanted us to hold the line while Secret Service was getting checked out in the hospital.
So this stuff happened, Americans saw it, they realized there was a problem and the Biden administration realized that there was an opportunity. And so they made a jump from the HVE game and the military and the, and the, whatever it was called, you know, the anti abortion protesters. And they went, aha. We’re going to create something called anti government, anti authority violent extremists and we’re going to put all of our domestic terrorism resources into those people. So it didn’t start the same animal that was going after Muslims, but they didn’t go after like the antifa extremists or they didn’t.
The extremists that were doing all the fires in Minneapolis and in Portland. They weren’t. Well, you’ve got to be fair because Merrick Garland told us they were doing those things when it was dark out and that’s hard to find. Oh, for God’s sake. That. But see, that’s what. And then they had, they, they would have these bratty white kids standing up with Black Lives Matter against, against black cops. I mean, there was all these like pictures of that. Or how about that time where they just came and shot these cops? I mean it was, they weren’t going after real thugs.
It was incredible. Well, yeah, but that’s scary. That’s. And, and this is the scariest part for me. It’s scary to go after dangerous people that are willing to use violence. It’s way easier to go after MAGA people that are going to probably open the door up and talk to you. It’s way easier to go after someone like me. So. Correct. So I’m telling you, like this is the scariest thing in the world because people got told, hey, go out and go do those interviews. And I had a deal with my boss and we didn’t, he didn’t take me up on this because we didn’t get any of what we call leads.
A lead is like a request to go interview somebody. But I said, you can give me every J6 lead. And so hopefully People are listening and not. They’re watching as well. And if you’re watching, you’ll be able to see what my head does. But I said, I will go and knock on every single door and said, hey, my name is Kyle Seraphin. I’m with the FBI. Would you like to have a conversation with me right now about January 6th? I’d like to talk to you if you got a minute. It. And you can totally say no if you want, and just let them know that I’m shaking my head no the whole time because they should close the door and then tell them the message, don’t talk to me.
Interesting. There’s no reason. And here’s the other thing. I actually threw out somewhere over a hundred leads that came my way because the allegation against the people that were to be investigated, if we did the investigation, were all First Amendment protected. And so I knew that they were First Amendment protected, that I had no legal right to go and bother these people over a First Amendment issue. I could theoretically go talk to him, but why would I. But I didn’t see you were being ethical. What about those FBI swats that were going, there’s 14 people with gunpoint keeping people for 10 hours when the people didn’t do anything other than their relative might have been there at January 6th.
This is the worst part, because I think. Because it puts me in a position to explain and explain. I’m not trying to make excuses for anybody because I think that people have a responsibility for their own actions. However, on top of that, the way that those cases were often briefed, and I’ve heard people explain this to me, the first, you get a pass on the first one, to be fair, and I’ll tell you why the second one, you should probably ask more questions by the time you’re doing the third one, like, you’re a problem. So, like, that’s where I’ll leave it.
At the first time. When you’re brief, like, this person is dangerous. They own these guns. Like they were part of this capital riot thing. They did these things. Here’s some footage of the guy on the day, and he’s like, you know, throwing a shield at a cop or whatever it is. Like, they showed they played these things up. The people who served the search warrants and the arrest warrants, the SWAT teams that went out there, almost none of them were actually doing the investigation. The SWAT teams get tapped in kind of like a relief pitcher gets tapped in.
So they didn’t know the story. They were told something oftentimes but like I said, after the second time or the third time, you should start asking a lot more questions like, hey, these people are really docile. And by the way, that’s a really clean house. That’s the nicest house that I’ve ever served a search warrant on. We’re fine. Yeah. Okay, So I can understand the SWAT team, but the people that were purposely doing it, there was a bigger agenda. Agenda. I’m sorry, there was bigger. And the agenda is really simple. They wanted that funding and I’m going to explain to you why in just one second.
Because it’s really, like I said, it’s the oldest thing I wouldn’t hear. There is a go ahead. There’s a five figure bonus, but go ahead. There’s a five figure bonus for the senior executive in your office. Your boss’s boss’s boss or your boss’s boss gets a five figure bonus. 30, 40, $50,000 for hitting the metrics, which is like, like a quota on the things that he’s supposed to investigate. And they hit all their metrics with January six cases. They were easy. But whoever put those metrics together and were bone and, and doing it, it’s the same senior, it’s the same executive that got the bonus.
That’s the, that’s the dirty secret of the FBI. The FBI senior executives that run the field offices have a negotiation with headquarters every year called Integrated Program Management. They negotiate back and forth with how many counterterrorism cases, how many Title 3 warrants, how many FISAs, how many search warrants, how they’re going to use how many sophisticated techniques, what they’re going to do in gathering, how many challenge you one thing. Okay, Kyle. Okay, I’m just, I’m just telling you so that you understand mechanically. It’s so scary. No, no, no, no. As somebody who has, you know, taught at the business, top business school and university level and things and taught strategy, you know, like really thought out strategic initiatives.
That’s how you get people to do things. You can, you can do whole thing and people who are running it don’t understand that. Right. You can instigate and get people to do whatever you want. That’s where the. Alex Jones, I don’t know if he’s right or not, but you can easily instigate a whole global agenda based on through money and through policy decisions that the people running it don’t even know that. And that’s why I told you it’s the oldest reason in the book. Like for most people it wasn’t about some big overarching. It’s co aligned interest.
I’ll give you a last piece of information here because I think this also helps kind of tie that together. This is great though. This is wonderful. Go ahead. I mean, because you’re being evidence of what I. Of the. All this. Go ahead. Well, a lot of people have experienced it. They just don’t have a name or they don’t know the mechanics behind it. When you understand the mechanics, you’re like, oh, of course, that makes sense. The last thing is probably the most nefarious because it’s, it’s insidious and it creeps up on you when you went from being a law enforcement entity with an intel capability to an intel agency with a, with a law enforcement capability.
And, and my evidence for this, by the way, people can go look up what’s called the dialog. It’s the Domestic Investigations Operations Guide. It’s the how to for the FBI. You could read it. It’s like it’s unclassified. They just put one out in February of 2024. They list the FBI as intelligence agency first primarily. And you know, if you know anything about the way business is organized, the things they tell you in the order they tell you are very relevant. And they think of themselves as an intel agency. That’s what they think is the most important.
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Those people lean almost universally hard to the left. And when you take your command structure and you build it around intelligence and you put hard left leaning ideologies from university and make them in charge of otherwise right leaning and or centrist types like me who are going to carry the badge and the gun, you are now going to take a weapon system which is your agents that go out and do the job, SWAT teams and so on. And you have the people that are aiming the gun are going to be your left leaning and sometimes ideological.
Now is everybody ideologically leaned? No. But if everybody kind of agrees on what the values are are and there are pretty hard to the left when it comes to like the American Overton window. I’m telling you that’s how you capture an agency and they call it institutional capture and various other names. But that is how it happened mechanically at least as far as the FBI and I would say broader the intel communities. Well, I think all the universities are essentially captured because they have correct. And there’s an arrogance to their. When I had a, I had a professor that was one of my mentors and he said that the beginning of your downfall is your is arrogant arrogance.
And the arrogance in these universities of we are the best. It’s the same thing of, of there’s no difference. There’s a fine line between confidence and really being proud and arrogance. Turns out the Bible said that too. I mean pride was the original sin. So like this is not new stuff. This is human nature. Yeah, yeah, it’s. Yeah the Bible. The Bible has some pretty good stuff in it. You can go back a long ways and realize that man’s downfall oftentimes comes from man’s hubris. The Greeks had a name for it too, right. Every major civilization in Western society has understood that like there’s a difference between accurate self assessment.
Right. And pride and, and confident. Well, pride, there’s a difference between being proud, like I’m proud of my children kind of stuff. You should be proud of that versus letting that get in the way of being ethical and right and moral and all these other things. Right. And, and it’s. What are you proud of them for? Is it because of principles? Is it because of great like achieved results? Or is it is simply because you just are the greatest because they exist. And when you start doing that sort of in, in the D.C. area. The acronym or the, the metaphor is the self licking ice cream cone where the, where the, the item no longer serves the purpose for which it was created.
And that’s our federal government in many ways. And that’s a lot of our law enforcement. If you were to ask most people in federal government what their job is, they don’t know they’re part of a team, which is the same thing I highlighted to you that I saw as an FBI problem. They don’t know they’re part of a team that is trying to achieve a mission. And that mission should be, be, you know, greater freedom or greater protection of liberty. The craziest thing, I saw a headline today, like literally this morning and the headline said the, the Trump administration is cutting back on auditors and on revenue agents from the irs, which will decrease government revenues.
And I went, government revenues are my monies that are coming out of my pocket and they’re coming out of your pocket. They have been divorced from what the mission is. And when you divorce what’s called task and purpose in the military, if people understand that idea, there’s a task, that’s what you’re going to do, there’s a purpose. It’s why you go do it. When you no longer know the why and you just do the why because that’s my job. You ask somebody like, hey, what do you do here? And you say this and you’re like, okay, well how does that serve the mission? If they can’t answer you immediately, like, how is it that what you do helps me, the agent, go get bad guys and keep them safe from coming after you in your home? They failed and I don’t think they know the mission.
And I’ll tell you something else, super insidious. And people can check this out themselves because this sounds really conspiratory. Real. Between September 2 and September 5, sorry, September 3 and September 7, I have the days, like it’s hard to pinpoint where it is. And so you’ll only find some of those days. I think it’s third to seventh, 2020, the FBI’s command leadership page on their public facing FBI.gov website. They changed the core, the core values and the missions. The most important things of the FBI. Now you know about mission statements, you know about corporate nonsense where people go out there and push out a mission statement, why we do what we do.
You know what core values look like? This reasons the principles that were supposed to follow. When I signed up for the FBI, the number one core value was rigid or rigorous obedience to The Constitution of the United States of America, which is a pretty good goal. That’s what you should do if you swear that oath. I swore it as an enlisted guy. Swore it in the, in the, in the law enforcement arena. In that September they dropped it to number seven on the list of like eight or nine. It wasn’t even 10. You’d think there’d be like a top 10, but it wasn’t.
It was like seven out of eight or nine. And above it were things like integrity, compassion, diversity, inclusion, all the leftist values got pushed above. Well, integrity was one of them. I think integrity is, is pretty damn important. It is, but your integrity is secondary to the oath. Again, it’s the task and the purpose. The thing that you do is go out and affect like you can actually see what the job of an 1811 criminal investigator is. You can’t do an oath without integrity. Me, but go ahead. I think. Right. So that’s one of those things that has to fall secondary to it.
And what are you swearing your oath to? Like what is your integrity to. Is it to your own personal standards? No, it’s to the Bill of Rights and to the, to the, to the Constitution. I just. So the way I would explain it, Integrity. That’s what most. Well, yeah, I mean if you’re hiring people with no integrity, we’re already screwed. I, I think most people don’t even realize what it is that the oath of office and what you’re swearing allegiance to. I would make the argument as a military member having done that job, you’re swearing oath to the Constitution, which is that I’m going to protect the Constitution from foreign and domestic enemies by looking outward and making sure that the command structure that the Congress still exists is Article one, the President, Article two, the judiciary.
In Article three, I’m going to make sure that those people are safe to do the work that they’re required to do from foreign and domestic enemies. But if you’re doing it as a law enforcement officer and your job is to go out there and protect the American people theoretically from force and fraud either home and abroad, then you should also be mostly swearing allegiance to the Bill of Rights, which is a limit on your own authorities. If you consider what the basic American revolutionary principle was. They were coming in and so they said you have God given civil liberties.
They, they pre exist this government. We are acknowledging them as a leash on the government that we just created. And remember the anti Federalists were right. Based on sitting to where we are today, the anti Federalists won the argument. That government always overreaches. And so the only thing that we had was that compromise. Strong central government. That’s your Constitution. Leash on government authority. That’s your Bill of Rights. So if you swear allegiance as a law enforcement officer, you’re not going to violate people’s right to privacy. And they’re in their person and they’re in their possession and their things.
Right. That’s your fourth. You’re going to have due process. You don’t have to force them to incriminate by intimidating you at your doorstep. They’re not supposed to go and stop you from speech or assembly or religion, which we did all those things in 20, 20 and 21. All of these things that were violated. No, but see, the medical doctors violated their oaths all day long, too. I agree. I don’t even know. I haven’t been to a doctor in forever. I haven’t been to a doctor probably eight years about that. Half of them didn’t even think about their old.
It seems like. Well, you are. You were fun to talk to. I really appreciate. Where can people follow you? I’m sending people to check it out on YouTube if they’re already there, which is interesting because we have. Why are you. I’ve actually. I can’t even get on. For the first time ever, we’ve actually seen growth on YouTube. This is an interesting experience too. And I’ve seen a lot of impression on Rumble the country on. On YouTube apparently. But go ahead. There are people. Yeah, you, You. You came out at the right time to be. I highlighted.
My friend Tracy Beans has the same problem. No matter what she does, she’s a threat. I’m apparently not a threat there today. So that’s kind of interesting. So they can Find Me on YouTube. They can also find me on Rumble. It’s the same thing. It’s Kyle Seraphin. Kyle Seraphine show on Rumble. Rumble’s a better platform. They’re not. They have been suppressing me over on Rumble for whatever. It’s worse. And it may or may not have to do with the fact that I’ve had a fairly unpleasant, pleasant disagreement with the current deputy director of the FBI and a.
A stereo stakeholder in Rumble known as Dan Bongino. People who know my history know there’s a little bit of conflict. Yeah, it’s not good. Well, I don’t want anybody suppressing. I’ve been so suppressed. You know, YouTube is just. I couldn’t be angrier at what YouTube has done to me. You know what I mean, Antony? No, it’s atrocious. And, and that’s the thing. I, I, my listeners even push back and they’re like, really, like, I go, we’re seeing more growth there, there. We, we stagnated despite like, like meteoric growth. Over on Rumble, we were going on a, on a linear pathway and it stopped cold at a very specific time based on a, like, I have to assume based on a disagreement.
And, and it just makes you, it lets people know, look, diversify your message, diversify your platform. The only reason they shouldn’t have that much power over us, though, I, I don’t. Monopoly. Because YouTube has a, essentially a global monopoly. They really do shouldn’t, I mean, in some countries they have almost 100. Right. In this country. Yeah. And then consider that the Chinese basically allow them. Everything that goes on the back end should be that powerful. And if we allow that, that’s the end of civilization. With that much power, that is tyranny. And people need to understand that this is not acceptable, period.
Also, this spite is, it’s eternal and it’s age old. And it’s not going to be fought or won by you or me and not by our children’s generation or the ones after tools like this before. Agreed. I think I’m still waiting. I told my wife, if we have another child, we’ve got four right now. And if we have one more, and God willing it’s a son, because I got three daughters right now and that’s enough. That’s plenty of daughters. They’re wild. Girls are fun. Whatever you have is what you want. But yeah, I can understand. No, no, I love it.
I’ve got one son and I’ve got three daughters. And my daughters are gems. They are the funniest thing that has ever happened to me. It’s great for someone like me who’s like, aggressive. I love it when tough guys have daughters because then they end up creating some pretty tough women too. But my girls, they, yeah, they get drilled and they get talked to very aggressively. They get to meet like the dad that existed before they were even born, who they never, they never would have seen. So it’s very fun. But if we have another child and it’s a boy, I’m going to name him John Connor because I think our fight is going to be with the other evil that we keep creating, like AI and we’ve created technologies that we’ve basically turned into sort of godlike creatures.
So look, all the warnings were there if anybody grew up in the 80s or if they were alive in the 80s and they remember them. We got all the warnings already. We’ve already seen what this all looks like. We all look forward to dystopia and then for some reason we’ve just tried to realize them. So I constantly keep myself kind of, of a little bit humbled and laughing about the fact that all the warnings were there for the last hundred years and we went dead them anyway. So this is an age old fight. It’s a spiritual battle and I don’t think we win until the end anyway until after we die.
So that’s kind of where I sit with it. Yeah, well. And the tools can be used in a good way or a bit. That’s right. We just. Exactly right. Sure. But anyways. Well, thank you so much. I’m gonna put your. Do you have anything other than a video platform? Do you have a website? Yeah, they can find me@kyle seraphin.com. they can find me at kyle seraphinshow.com. so those are the other two places where people could do it. It’s always my name and then I’m on X. I’m at Kyle Seraphin over there. That’s my biggest platform where I’ll.
If you send me something offensive or you want to engage with me or say something snarky, I’ll always. I’ll tweet back at you. I don’t care how big the accounts are. I like to engage with everybody there too. Well, that’s great. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Yeah, I enjoyed it. Thanks Sarah. Sa.
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