Europes Unraveling Will Have Global Consequences | Rainer Rothfu Harley Schlanger

➡ The AfD (Alternative for Germany) party, a growing political force in Germany, is pushing back against the EU and is often portrayed as an extremist right-wing party. However, the party, led by Alice Wendell, a lesbian married to a Sri Lankan woman, is fighting for basic rights and against the EU’s control. They are for innovation and immigration, but not at the expense of local communities. The party’s senior member, Reiner Ruth Foose, a human rights spokesman, has been involved in peace initiatives and could potentially hold a powerful position if the AfD gains more control.
➡ The Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, often labeled as extremist, is gaining popularity as people feel let down by traditional parties and policies. The party, which includes diverse members from various backgrounds, is often misrepresented by the media and government. They advocate for controlled immigration, maintaining German traditions, and economic policies that benefit the country. However, they face challenges due to decisions made by the European Union and the negative impacts of shifting production capacities to other countries like China.
➡ The speaker discusses the geopolitical interests of Germany, emphasizing the need for good relationships with both the United States and Russia. They argue that Germany should not be exclusively dependent on Brussels or Washington, but should balance its relationships. The speaker also mentions the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party’s struggle for Germany’s new position in the geopolitical arena, and their aim to protect their civilization from external threats. They also touch on the idea of a global government and reject it in favor of national sovereignty.
➡ The text discusses the power dynamics between nations, corporations, and global organizations. It suggests that some powerful entities, like the British and Macron, may want war to maintain their control. It also criticizes the suppression of national interests by the European Union and the media’s role in shaping public opinion. The text also expresses concern about the potential for war as a cover-up for economic collapse, and the role of Israel in global politics.
➡ The text discusses the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and its global implications. It suggests that the war could be stopped if countries, including the U.S., stopped selling weapons to Ukraine. The text also touches on the negative perception of Russians in Western Europe, which it attributes to ignorance about the geopolitical situation. Lastly, it discusses the potential impact of vaccines on fertility rates and the possible use of this for population control.
➡ The text discusses the potential dangers of rapid technological advancements, such as early puberty due to endocrine disruptors, the influence of 5G radiation, and the potential for technocracy. It also mentions the potential benefits of these advancements, like the creation of single organism cells that can replicate themselves, potentially ending organ trafficking. However, the text warns about the potential for misuse of these technologies, such as the creation of digital identities that could be used for control and surveillance. The text emphasizes the need for public participation in discussions about these advancements to ensure they are used responsibly.
➡ Reiner Rothfuss, a popular figure, is open to discussions with his followers who can reach him through his email, harleyschmail.com. He also has a YouTube channel, mostly in German, but automatic translation is available for non-German speakers. This makes it easier for international fans to connect with him.

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Welcome to Business Game Changers. I’m Sarah Westdall. I have the opportunity to interview a AfD member of parliament member out of Germany. And, and AfD is the alternative, probably the most growing popular party in Germany and it is creating huge change in Europe and they’re pushing back against the EU and they’re being portrayed as this extremist right wing party. The leader, her name is Alice Wendell, is a lesbian who’s married to a woman from Sri Lanka who’s a minority. And, and they have two sons. But yet. So it’s really not convenient that she is what she is and that they have people like that all over the party.

And the government itself has tried to categorize them as an extremist party, but there’s been some courts that have barred that and said no, they’re not extremists. I think what’s happening is because they’re gaining ground, they want to. That’s the propaganda that they’re trying to put into everybody’s minds. And from their perspective, they’re just like what mainstream was like what we were growing up and the rest of the country has just really changed. And we’re seeing that everywhere where the average person is like, I don’t fit in anywhere. These parties are not representing me. And all this craziness that’s going on and I don’t know what and that’s what this party is.

They just want to get back to the basics and they’re fighting back against. They’re for innovation, but, but not innovation that enslaves us. Right. They are okay with immigration, but they don’t want to be taken over by immigrants that are military age that don’t care at all about the local community and they’re harming the local people. They’re okay with Immigrants, but they don’t want their college paid for. Why theirs isn’t being paid for. Like what’s happening in Minnesota. They’re okay, they’re okay with basic things, but they don’t want everything being stolen. They, they want a voice and the EU has taken away their voice.

They want to protect their homeland, but they don’t want to be in endless wars. I mean, what is this wars? We don’t want to destabilize our country by using all of our resources for war. And so the ADF is a party that’s really interesting to me. So I had the opportunity to interview parliament member, one of the ADF senior members, Reiner Ruth Foose. It’s Ruth Foose, it’s a German sounding name. And he. We had a remarkably great conversation. Harley Schlanger, who is the president of the LaRouche organization joined us and it was all three of us.

And I asked him some pretty deep questions about what the heck is going on in his party and what they believe. But he appreciated it because he doesn’t get the opportunity to speak like this in regular media. Media doesn’t like to dive into and debate real issues. They want you distracted on surface level issues. And as soon as you get down to the meat and potatoes, what we really need to talk about, they’re going to censor you. But the regular people, the people of this world need to be having these kinds of discussions. But let me read his background.

Dr. Reiner. Ruth Fus is a member of the German Bundenstag, representing Bavaria and the alternative for Germany AfD. Before entering national politics, Ruth Fuss built a career in geopolitics and international affairs. He holds a doctorate in geography and previously served as a professor of political geography and development research at the University at Tubingen where his work included geopolitics, conflict research, European and international development. He also worked internationally in industry, European programs and independent geopolitical analyst and consultant. He spent 13 years as a member of Germany’s traditional conservative CSU before joining the AFD in 2018. He is first deputy state chairman of the AFD and Bavarian serves as AFD’s human rights policy spokesman.

So he’s their party’s human rights spokesman. So we dive into some of this when it comes to Germany wanting to send back their military age soldiers, their military age citizens back to Ukraine who are going to die. They show that anybody that joins the front line dies within like 48 hours. It’s horrible what’s going on in Ukraine. But he, he also led a coalition before he joined the joined the party to bring peace to Russia and Germany and got multiple peace awards for this. He is the AfD’s lead representative, both the Boden Stag Committee on Human Rights and Humanitarian Aid and a subcommittee on Crisis Prevention, Strategic Foresight, Stabilization and Peace Building.

He also serves as a deputy member of the Foreign Affairs Committee. Has been involved for years in the German Russian dialogue and peace initiatives, which is what I told you. And if the AFD party ends up being a. A coalition party that rules and has serious power in the party, he is going to be one of the senior members that will probably reach into a very strategic, powerful position. And so you get to hear firsthand what the heck is going on in Germany. You want to follow this because what happens in Europe, Europe is gonna, Europe may fall and or at least be taken back from this criminal cartel that’s running it.

And we’re going to see developments out of Europe. I think before we see in the United States. We are stalled. Nothing’s happening in the US but things are happening in Europe and I think we need to keep our eyes on Europe. And this is another enlightening conversation that, that we’re having. Before we get into that, I want to tell you I had a replay of the Peptide and endocrine Disruptor webinar with Dr. Diane Kaser. The replay is now available. If you missed it, I will have the link below and it is only free for a few more days and then it’s going to go behind the paywall.

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Otherwise you can see it@westall media.com which is my substack now, so be sure to watch that. Okay, let’s get into this wonderful discussion that I have with Harley Schlanger, the president of the LaRouche organization, and, and Reiner Ruth Fus, who is a senior member of the AFD party in Germany. Hi Reiner and Harley. Welcome to the program. Hello Nice to be here. Hello, Sara. Good to see you. Okay. Germany just had a election and they’ve been having some incredible progress with the AfD party, which you are part of. You are in the middle of that. The media around the world is claiming that that party is an extremist far right group.

My understanding is that the leadership does not represent extremism. Can you talk a little bit about what the party really is and whether I want to dissect whether this is just an attack on the reputation of the party or not? Yeah, of course. I think it’s very easy to understand. You get to look at the situation from the eagle’s perspective and then you see, oh, the Western civilization has gone through a left wing shift or shift towards the left in society, in politics, in media, etc. And we are an initiative stemming from the people trying to get back to policies that really serve the people, that respect traditions, family, God, the nation.

And this is deemed to be extremist nowadays. So it’s the overall framework that has been shifted. And this is an extreme development. I would say if we look at our societies, not only in Germany, also in the United States, it’s all over the Western civilization, I would say. And we are a resistance movement against this. And of course they don’t like such movements to come up. They do not really believe in free competition, the basic principle of democracy, because it’s up to the people to define the destiny of their nation, of their culture, of their economy, etc.

That would be democracy. But if the people decide in a way the elites do not like, if you do not. Yeah. Just participate in their big choir to go through the great transformation, I would say, then you’re an enemy, you’re dangerous for them. And this is the case for the alternative for Germany. Okay. And this party is actually one of the most popular now. And it represents what, when I was growing up, what had just been like mainstream, normal stuff, and what we all grew up with is what you thought was mainstream is now becoming extreme.

But my understanding is there’s actually a legal case where the government tried to identify your party as extremist and they weren’t allowed to because it’s just not accurate. Is that true? Yeah. Well, luckily some courts and some judges are still brave enough to face this big wave, this tsunami, which doesn’t respect also laws and division of powers, etc. But this is one of the instruments they want to use to discredit us as a party, to delegitimize us. But you know, when people come into Trouble through bad policies, bad economic policies, bad energy policies, etc. They feel it, they go through hardship, they lose their jobs, they pay more and more for the energy for everything of their daily lives.

And then they see that what they are told in the media and by the established parties is simply not true. And so they come to the conclusion that maybe also all the fear mongering against the AfD is not true either. And this helps us a lot, this development. It’s sad to say, but with the crisis deepening, sharpening in Germany, people wake up and nobody can stop them from waking up. And they try to break this cage of media narratives and find their own path to decide by themselves who to trust in. And it’s not the old established parties anymore.

And we have still a divided Germany in the West. We grew up, I’m from West Germany. We grew up with those parties which were funded even before Second World War or after Second World War. But in the east we had this disruption, the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989. And only afterwards the Western party system got also transported, transferred to the East. So people there, for them, it’s a rather new phenomenon. They do not feel so deeply attached to the parties in the West. Some people will tell you, oh, my father, my grandfather, always voted for spd, for the Social Democrats or for the Christian Democratic Union.

I mean, it must be the same in the United States with your two party system. But in the east, people just say, oh, we are the losers of the reunification process. And we are really, really angry that 36 years after reunification we still have a much lower wage level and the pensions do not really cover the daily costs, etc. Industry and skilled workers, they have all fled to the West. And so they really say we have been forgotten by those parties. Yeah. And they identify much more with alternative for Germany even than in the West. That’s why we.

That’s interesting. 45% of support in polls in the East. That’s the average for the six states in the East. Well, that’s just around the 20s, huh? That’s interesting because it’s like the people coming from former Communist parties are the ones that are the most supportive of some of these conservative. I don’t even think it’s concern for me. I’m like, is it really all that conservative? It just seemed normal when we were growing up. And suddenly we’re all like, we’ve all been redefined. The leader of your party, Alice Wydell. She’s right. She’s a lesbian, a female lesbian who’s suddenly this poster child of this extremist right wing party.

How weird is that? And she’s married to a woman who has been adopted by a Swiss family. She comes from Sri Lanka. So by her skin color you obviously see she’s not Aryan. That’s what they blame us to. It’s pretty inconvenient for them savor. But if you look at North Rhine Westphalia, that’s the the biggest western state or state at all. From all the 16 states of Germany by population over 20 million there we have a Congolese candidate now, Serge Menga. A great guy. He loves Germany. And when he moved to Germany some 20 or 30 years ago, he found a great country which he learned to love and he wants to preserve this country.

And our party members have appointed him to be the candidate in one of the regions in North Rhine Westphalia. So a black person is campaigning for alternative for Germany. We have acting members in North Rhine Westphalia, a very pretty lady from Albania and she Sali Zacharias. We have Vietnamese refugee. So what I’m hearing is you guys don’t care. You don’t care. You have principles. Yeah, you don’t care. The one who loves Germany and wants to keep up our values, traditions, who cherishes our values and traditions is welcome and is factually also voted into such positions. And nobody from outside puts pressure on us.

Now you need a certain quota for foreigners. No. And we do not even make propaganda with those people. They are just part of us and fighting for, for our same shared goals. Do the parties who have power over the governments and power over the media, using their power to frame you as something that you’re not. That’s what it looks like. Yeah, exactly. That’s what they’re doing now. I got to ask. And their perception has been totally manipulated. It’s not fair how they judge us so to be for closed borders and control who comes in and who benefits from our Social Security system, that’s just normal.

It’s not extremist. And to want to re migrate those who are notorious criminals or want to topple the democratic system and set up a caliphate. Come on. It’s normal to claim that such people should better leave our country and build up their own great society as they want. Well, I think we should all. I kind of believe. Well, I believe that having healthy immigration and people who marrying and freedom and stuff is good. But this is not what we’re seeing. We’re seeing an invasion on purpose being funded. But one thing I need to ask you is BMW was purchased by China you lost your grain.

One of your great vehicle manufacturers, you know, that is a pride of Germany. What the heck happened there? Why? Well, that’s a big deal. It has not been. The company has not been completely bought by Chinese capital owners. Rather, the. The. The managers of the company have taken the decision to shift some of the production capacities to China because the profitability of investment is much lower in Germany. That makes sense. Everybody’s moving their stuff. Many reasons, of course, but you know, the energy vendor. I think such a silly thing only exists in Germany that you blow up your nuclear power plants and build up windmills everywhere in solar power panels.

And when there is no electricity because no wind is blowing and it’s dark, then we buy electricity from nuclear power plants in France, but at highest prices. When we have too much wind blowing, sun shining, then Austria, I live right next to Austria here, buys up our electricity, our power that is not consumed in the net in Germany, in the grid, but for a negative price. So we even have to pay them sometimes to use up our electricity. Then there, they load their reservoirs with water, and when we have a lack of electricity, they sell the electricity back.

They have turbines, hydropower, and they sell back the power to us. So we lose twice. And this is, of course, producing the highest electricity costs in Germany. And capital owners are fleeing when they have to take the decision, oh, we’re a global company coming from Germany, but in China we earn 5 percentage points more on our capital. Where shall we invest? Come on. It’s clear they have to take this decision. So capital is fleeing from Germany and this is a catastrophe, catastrophe for all Europe because we finance the European Union. If the economy breaks down in Germany, we have a catastrophe for whole Europe and it will affect the whole west, the whole Western civilization.

Okay, let me ask you, if I could, If I could just jump into, please. To identify what I think is the bigger problem is that the decisions, as Reiner’s saying, that have been made on energy, on foreign policy, on investment in Germany have been dictated by the bureaucrats of the European Union who are unelected and who serve the interests of the same corporate cartels that are for the great transformation, the reset, the move toward central banks and technocracy, as opposed to sovereignty of the people. Now, in particular, the, the, the immigration issue is very big in Germany, but just as big now is the fact that the, The Nord Stream pipeline was blown up, which provided cheap electricity, cheap energy to Germany.

And there’s been no attempt to address who did it. And the, The Putin himself said, now that he’s willing to make it available again to to Germany and the mainstream parties are saying no. And that’s the second big issue is the war. The AfD is considered extremist because they don’t want to fund the neo Nazi regime in Kiev. Isn’t that crazy? That’s what I’m hearing is you’re doing a lot of the normal non extreme behaviors and then they flipped it on its head and are calling you extremists. Now one of the things that you did before you got into government is that you led a coalition coalition to do the peace movement with Russia which you won awards for.

And can you speak a little bit about the Russian and the Ukrainian war and how that’s just destroying Germany and why are we having endless wars? And I know Harley is beside himself with these endless wars are destroying our economies. You know, some people say that the where they make the most money is not, not in the wars, obviously it’s where we’re spend. But it’s in the rebuilding after these wars and there’s so much money to be made that that’s why they’re doing this. But from your perspective, you were trying to keep this from happening. Can you talk about that? Yeah.

Again, I think here we need to zoom out a little bit because it’s not only about profits, it’s about geopolitical interests. That’s right. And for me it’s almost a miracle that the MAGA movement and Donald Trump, J.D. vance that they are fans of the alternative for Germany because what do we stand for? We stand for sovereignty for Germany, which is the most normal thing for of course any US government and for any French or British government. But for us it’s a revolutionary act to speak out on behalf of German interests. Hold on. In Germany. Yeah. I want you to continue your thought.

But one thing that I wanted to put in there is one of the things that’s really, really confusing people is that Trump and Vance and all these guys are the are being spun as maybe they are supporting the technocracy movement versus sovereignty because they’re supporting all of these AI developments and all of the surveillance state from the optics standpoint. And so if you can speak to that a little bit because they’re supporting the AfD but yet from it’s like them spinning and saying that you’re the extremist party, people are really confused as to what’s going on.

So continue. I think we should look at those two mega developments or meta developments separately. Technocracy and geopolitics. It comes together in the end. But the traditional geopolitics for Europe, on behalf of Great Britain and or United Kingdom and United States, foresaw that Europe should never integrate Russia, NATO should never integrate Russia. Eurasia should never grow peacefully together. Why that? Because in terms of centers of power, power would shift away from UK in the first half maybe of the 20th century, and the 19th century would move away from the United states in the second half of the 20th century and still nowadays towards Eurasia.

That’s why the geostrategists need to invent one war after another to keep above all Germany and Russia apart. Why that? Because Germany is a powerhouse in terms of qualification, innovativeness, driving industry, etc. Why Russia? Russia is the biggest country on Earth. It has maybe the biggest natural resources of any country on Earth. And this is of course a great danger to the transatlanticist elite that the center of power could shift to Eurasia if Germany and Russia agreed to work together closely. If the European Union would also integrate Russia, then it could not be dominated by the United States so easily any longer because it has been set up by the United States as a post war system.

And Germany has played a very, very strategic role for the United States to project power over not only Europe, but also towards Middle east, etc. So we were never allowed to become a neutral country like Switzerland, like Austria. If I’m looking out of the window here, I see both countries, the mountain ridges here I’m living at Lake Constance in Lindau. And they were allowed to stay neutral. Austria, for example, became sovereign quite swiftly after the second World War because of neutrality in their constitution. But we were not allowed to remain neutral. In 1953, Stalin offered to Germany for the status of neutrality to become reunified at the very instant.

And we had to reject this. And now the alternative for Germany is struggling for a new position of Germany in the geopolitical arena. We don’t want to be enemies of the United States, enemies of Western Europe. Why should we? We are the parts of the same civilization. We should work together to protect our civilization from other dangers much greater from outside, like the mass migration from Africa, but above all from the Islamic cultural region being quite near to Germany. And we also need, as Germany in our geopolitical position, we also need good relationships to Russia, because as an industrialized country without natural resources, we depend on resource influx from outside.

We depend on access to markets, not only in Russia, but worldwide. So for us Germans, in our specific national interest, it would be to maintain good relationships to all sides and to balance those relationships, but not to depend exclusively on Brussels or on Washington. That’s right, yeah. The MAGA movement. Or maybe you can explain me. Who are the forces behind those who seem to support alternative for Germany on their path to sovereignty? But I understood that also Donald Trump welcomed justice, Vladimir Putin, a new development in Germany, political movement in Germany which understands national interests and stands for national interests.

And this is great news for us. But of course we will not be such an easy partner as governments before because they just obeyed. And we will say, okay, if you want this, please know that for us it means this and that and therefore we want some compensation or we have different interests. Well, it seems. It seems a different solution. Have you thought about whether your investments are making the highest returns they can and eliminating as much taxes as you can? I think all of us want that strategy. Right? That’s the strategy that the wealthiest use.

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Go ahead. Remember, this is. AfD is rejecting that completely. Yeah, yeah. This is the whole idea of great sovereignty. Yeah. The whole idea of the great reset as laid out by Mark Carney back in 2019 was the idea that you have corporate cartels, especially in banking, finance, insurance and so on, that make the policies on behalf of the global interests, the global corporate interests, not nation states. And they try to override elected institutions. So for example, you saw the European Union try to destroy Orban in Hungary try to intervene in the Romanian election and they’re trying to intervene in Germany as well, trying to get the German government to outlaw the alternative for Deutschland.

Now the other part of this, just to go back to what Reiner was saying about 1953, this is one of the turning points because the, in the post war period it was not entirely clear which where the United States stood because Franklin Roosevelt, it wanted the Soviet Union not as an enemy but as a potential partner. And after he died, Churchill moved in and they set up NATO. And Churchill’s military advisor during World War II, Baron Ismay became the first head of NATO. And he’s the one who said define NATO. The purpose of NATO keeping the United States in Europe, the Soviet Union out and Germany down.

And that’s been the policy still to this day. And so you have this, you have this emergence in Germany for the, you know, after World War II the German people were told that the reason for Hitler was German nationalism. Actually it was the corporate cartels and the financial cartels that wanted to pit Germany, especially from London Germany against the Soviet Union. Yeah, well I think so that’s what makes your trying to make the relationship with Russia and the peaceful negotiation with Russia so meaningful. But do you think, and Harley, you might be able to answer this as well.

Do you think that these people are going to concede to a power shift without forcing war? I mean I think they want war. They want more. Of course they do. Of course they do. And the leaders in this of course have been the British and Macron has gone along with them. And now you have Merits. Look at merits’s background. Blackrock, one of the worst corporations in the world. Well he think leads the World Economic Forum now. Talk about a conflict of interest. Yeah. So the, the idea of a sovereign Germany is taken by the, the City of London, the Atlantic Council, the Center, the CFR in the United States as a danger to the unipolar order as Blinken used to call it, the, the rules based order.

And what you have now is an emergence of sovereign nations in the global south who are saying we want to be able to make decisions for ourselves without having to go to the banks first. Now that is the way the world should work. There’s no reason countries can’t have national interests and still have friendly interests, including trading with other countries. But instead what the European Union did was suppress national interests and have the Brussels represent corporate interests. And so the, the AfD members in, in Brussels can’t even get up to speak without being shunned and, you know, I’ve seen it where they, they have their time allotted to them and the, the chamber empties because the, the, the old parties refuse to be challenged.

That. Well, I think we’re in a situation where we have a lot of good stuff happening, but we have some parties that are really making it difficult, like the, what’s going on in Israel and the alignment’s there. It’s like, God, they’re so bad. And the alignments, there’s so much confusion because the behavior of some of the people that supposedly are the allies of the people who are fighting for sovereignty are behaving in such horrible ways. And we’re seeing that with Israel, we’re seeing that with the technology. You know, you say it’s a separate issue with the technocracy movement, but I mean, I don’t, I don’t know, because the optics get really bad when you look at who’s aligning with who, and it becomes very complicated for the average person to know.

Well, I’ll just say something quickly. You know what I’m saying? You know what I’m saying, Harley? But Sarah, why is that? That’s what we need to know. The media is one of the cartels. The media is totally aligned with this global corporate cartel system. And so the media is committed. And we were talking about this before the program, the censorship, you know, the fact that, that you, who speak very clearly and openly of what you want can’t get a fair shake from the, the Internet. Not even that, not even that you’re actually attacked on a national, international level and made to look out like a porn star or something.

That kind of stuff is like the AfD being called an extremist party when they have a female lesbian who has a partner from Sri Lanka as the lead of it. I mean, it’s just so absurd. But the, the decision is to suppress the debate. If you say someone is like with Putin, if you describe Putin as the enemy, you know, if there’s something bad going on, blame Putin. If you don’t have, if your energy prices are too high, if your food prices are too high, if your dog is pregnant, blame Putin. You create an enemy image, what’s called in German a fine belt.

That’s what the British mastered with their, their control, and that’s what now controls the international media. And so if Reiner and the AFDE are trying to speak to issues that, from what I know, living in Germany now For the last 10 years, most people in Germany don’t want war. They don’t want to. There’s a military buildup going on which is going to send German troops to the front lines in Lithuania. German weapons systems into Ukraine. Aren’t they refurbishing some of these manufacturing plants for military buildup? I know talking to Armstrong, he was saying that the capital flow is going into and I saw the two charts.

Rhein Metal is the, the big one. They’re going to transform parts of Volkswagen into military production. Well, the capital flow is going into military buildup is massive. I mean just over the last year. But, but Reiner could say something about the response from the population because this is why the votes for the off day are going up. Because the German people don’t want to be in an active war on behalf of NATO against Russia. Isn’t that what you find, Reiner? Yeah, I hope that 5% of our 30% which we have already reached in polls now stems from peace loving Germans.

I hope that for 5% of those 30 this was the primary motivation to vote for us. But to be honest, people just feel the problem when they see it in their purse. When money gets scarce, then people react. It’s the reality, the sad reality. But I fear, I’m afraid that the system that has been set up with the Bretton woods institutions, European Union, etc, the Petrodollar, is at the brink of collapse. And we maybe do not understand how close we are to that collapse. And that’s why we ask ourselves how can they drive us so badly into a major conflict with Russia? I mean this is the reality for the European governments just as much as it was the reality for the Biden administration before.

Do you think they want to get into war before the collapse or during the collapse so that they can use the collapse and the war as a way to reset up. They need to be in war for when the collapse happens. That’s my fear, that they need war to cover up their own their homemade collapse, blame it on Putin. Everything is lined up. Yeah, for the history books, that would be awesome. I mean it would be so easy to make everybody believe that it was Russia. You just need well coordinated false flag attack and all the media covering the same story just like when 911 happened 25 years ago and nobody will dare to question the narrative.

Well, people do question the narrative, but I only hope that the present administration in the U.S. trump and his team has all the deep state structures enough under control to prevent that. Because without the United States and their media it will be hard to. I don’t know the media, such horrible inclination the Economy may feel strong on the surface, but the cracks are forming and they’re growing. Debt levels are exploding, banks are fragile, and government keeps printing and borrowing at historical levels. Meanwhile, silver remains one of the most undervalued assets in the world for thousands of years.

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And even if they maybe could have been a good ally, these aren’t the people we want to ally with. That’s a major problem. Can I answer this? Because I’ve been in touch with one of the leading historians, a guy named Avi Schlaim, who’s written extensively about what’s going on in Israel. And what he says is he goes back to the Balfour Declaration in 1917 and this is, as Reiner knows, goes back to the British geopolitics. Before the First World War, Israel, the Zionist movement had very little to do with the Jewish religion. It had to do with an operation put in place by the British Foreign Office to move into this area, which was a crossroads between Europe, Asia and Africa, and set up a, a Zionist movement in the same way Ukraine is now being used against Russia.

They have these proxy states. And the problem with Israel at this point is that Israel is dependent on the United States for aid, military aid, financial aid. And they have a belief that what they’ve convinced their population is that anti Semites are out to get them and that therefore you have to have a, an offensive approach. The. The reality is that there’s a growing movement in the military in Israel and in the intelligence community saying we have to stop this and actually make something like the Abraham Accord real. The idea of normalization of relations. But after what’s happened in Gaza, it’s very hard to do.

But my personal view, and I’ll just. I’ll stop after this. My personal view is the place we could actually have a reset is if the Trump administration put its foot down and said no more weapons to Ukraine, because the Ukraine situation is the real destabilization because of the danger that this will continue and bring in German troops. The French and British newspapers are basically saying they fear Russia is going to move into Western Europe at any point now. Aren’t they looking in Germany for Ukrainian citizens so they can fight because they need the, the soldiers? And is Germany helping, I mean, these other parties helping them find Ukrainian citizens to ship back to be soldiers in the Ukrainian war? It has been discussed openly already.

And I think I’m the spokesperson for human rights of our parliamentary group in the alternative for Germany. And I’m convinced that we have the duty to keep those people also in the fighting age, men who have fled to Germany, to keep them here and not to deport them. It’s our moral duty. And it’s also, according to international law, we’re obliged to that. Because if you ship them to have the right from the war, if you ship them back, if you ship them back, they will die and they will die within, like they’re saying, like 48 hours or something.

Exactly. That war will go on forever, not only through weapons deliveries, but also through sending soldiers into that senseless war. It. Yeah, it keeps the dying over and over. And really, this is so important. This war needs to be stopped immediately. And I also think that Donald J. Trump should, if he wants to end that war, not sell weapons to the European countries and just benefit from European finances for the own weapons industry and keep the fighting up this way. If he wants to stop that war, he should also say, I do not sell weapons for this war.

The Switzerland, for example, bans any weapons being produced in Switzerland from being sent to Ukraine. They even did not give back Leopard tanks to Germany. Should they send them further on to Ukraine? The same with Brazil. If you want to end that war, stop financing it, stop sending and selling weapons to that war, and this war will lead to nothing but deepening the ditch between peoples in the east and the West. Western Europeans think of Russians as if they were monsters because of what? Because of their total ignorance of the geopolitical situation and the historical development of that conflict.

They have not been told anything about the fault of the west, about the responsibility of NATO in inflammating this conflict, of the Western Ukraine government, etc. So they think Russians are just bad people, and Putin is being reelected by them over and over. So Russians are bad people. They should be banned from European civilization. And this is the only goal which supposedly needed to be achieved by the geostrategists, the transatlanticist geostrategists. They wanted to drive us apart. And this has been achieved, even though the war made no sense at all, because no terrain has been conquered, just been lost and lives have been lost.

Probably over a million. Oh, lots. Yeah. A whole generation of Christian, Christian young men. Okay, let me ask you. Orthodox fighting each other. We are. We are in a shrinking Christian west, and we finance a war in Ukraine where Orthodox believers from both sides, brother people. That’s how the Russians call it, kill each other. It’s stupid. Okay, let me ask you. It’s not stupid. It’s really immoral. It’s immoral. It’s beyond stupid. Yeah. Stupid isn’t. Isn’t the correct word. It is stupid, but it’s worse than that. It’s both. Yeah. So let me ask you. Let me ask you.

It doesn’t make sense. Why would. It does. If we actually unpeel this agenda here, why would the Ukraine, the war with Russia and blaming Russia and doing this globalism thing. Why do they have to be. I understand the immigration because they want to create this one global thing where does all this LGBTQ and some of the extreme social stuff. Now I’m more a libertarian. I accept people for who they are, but I don’t understand the pushing of this on young children. And these agendas that are just don’t make sense. They’re extreme agendas, very extreme agendas. That isn’t healthy for the people that they’re targeting them to.

How does that couple with everything else that they’re doing? I think it only makes sense if we look at it through the lens of the great transformation which they want to make happen globally. But starting in the west, in China, etc. Who is the frontier for your great transformation? It’s the people, it’s the individuals. So you need to attack them on different levels. They have been attacked through Covid social distancing, this insane vaccine, genetically modified and with weird substances, nanotechnology inside Then you can attack people going against their, their mental health. So a mentally health person of course goes through some trouble in childhood and youth, but then knows, oh, I’m a proud man, I want to become a father and I want to protect my wife and my family.

And a woman knows likewise what she is and what is her most noble purpose. And if you destroy that self identification there will be no families. Demographically the west is dying out because also of such trends. And I think they want to control also fertility in the future through all those vaccines. Fertility rates have gone down and there are studies, scientific studies about that. The depopulation. Exactly. And if you can control fertility, grant fertility just to those who are in line with your agenda, I mean you can control the future societies completely. So this is population, this depopulation is connected to the radical energy policy and the inability to allow for cheap electricity.

This goes back to the decision and most recently it was in the 1970s, Kissinger put out a report on the need to reduce the world’s population. National Security Study Memo they use wars for that. Wars is one of the most wars. And starvation. Disease and starvation. Yep. Food. Yeah, yeah. And you starve through energy crisis because there’s not enough fertilizer. Etc. Break from the program to share with you something amazing. This is called sloop. It’s actually Slupp 332 but it’s been shortened to Sloop. And this thing mimics exercise. It seems too good to be true. I first shared this on my sub stack and I had Dr.

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The, the development of robots and the transfiguration of, of human beings and the moving away of. I mean what. Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister refers to this as the post Christian era in the West. And I, I think that’s a very apt idea. What Reiner was describing about the importance of the family, the, the destruction of, of young people who are going through, you know, everyone goes through this with puberty and you know, you have to develop a positive identity for people. If they don’t have it, who knows what’s going to happen. And, and this transhumanism which is tech connected to technocracy is being pushed in a way that is reducing the reproductive rate in the West.

The western countries also Korea, Japan now are having a depopulation within fertility. Now what does it do to you? I just did a show and I just told you about this before about how the, the Spanish study of the girls going into early puberty from ages 4 to 8. I think that should be like headline news everywhere. I just, I can’t. It’s because of the endocrine disruptors that are affecting us. It’s affecting everybody, not just girls. But this particular peer reviewed study had 300 girls that they were looking at ages 4 to 8. And you mentioned how you need to be mentally healthy and have a good sense of self when you go through puberty.

And what does it do when you’re starting to go through puberty? When you’re tiny, when you’re small? I mean this is an attack on, and the basic elements, the building blocks of people. Yeah, I know we haven’t had much time to think about that, but go ahead. And here comes in the technocracy issue, which I wanted to look at separately from the geopolitical issue because that’s what we have to be aware of, that the danger is that even nationalist movements will be captured somehow and instrumentalized for a technocratic agenda. And I can see that also within the alternative for Germany we are pro development, innovation, progressiveness, etc.

And that’s an open door of course for lobbyist groups who come in and say, oh, the 5G radiation is no problem at all, look at the little radiation strength, etc. It’s all nonsense. But there is an influence, there is an effect on human beings. We know that from biomedicine, medical researchers, also from the United States, that it’s a frontier of research. And we know that there is an effect, a strong effect, but we cannot define it already. We cannot look exactly into the future where it will drive us to. And there are so many different frontiers of this technological development which drives us into a potential technocracy.

It’s not only a 5G, it’s also the genetically modified vaccines, nutrition. It’s also the digitalizing of life which changes our habits, which keeps people for example from dating and later founding a family. Yeah, it’s just undermining everybody from. It’s an attack from all directions, different frontiers of innovation and it’s hard to understand them all and their interlinkages, their long term effects. You’re not anti innovation, you’re just. Yeah, you’re not anti innovation, you’re just like, let’s do this in a. Because I’m about innovation too. But I like we the adults need to get off the couch and start participating as where we want to take all this stuff.

This is really powerful. I just had an interview with Andrew Huff, Dr. Andrew Huff, which was a senior scientist at Eco Health alliance, which was in the middle of the COVID nightmare and it just aired before this and we started talking about the God cell. It’s a single organism cell that was just created out of the University of Minnesota that can replicate on itself. So you can create, create. You can grow organs. It’s a huge breakthrough where you can grow organs, you can grow these things that they’re estimating is going to be two to three times the size industry wise as big tech is.

Although I think big tech and that will be totally intertwined because technology is. But these are the kind of innovations that are coming at us. And if we don’t have smart, I don’t want to shut us down like the Mennonites do because you can Bring in with this innovation, you can bring in freedom and human flourishing like we’ve never seen before. Like you can end human, a lot of human trafficking, at least for organs, with those single cell organisms developing, you know, new organs. But you can also build Frankensteins and you can also bring rope build robotics and weird humanoid things.

I mean, there’s so many things you can do with this. So the adults need to get in these conversations is the bottom line. Exactly, yeah. And the developments are so fast, we’re just not keeping up with the speed of social development, of debates in society. We do not even understand what is technically already feasible. And then comes in another frontier of this technocratic development, digital identity. We already have a digital health pass in Germany and it can in the future be connected to the digital identity and also to the digital Europe. And then you can completely control at a certain point, if you want, and if there is the option to take over control, governments always sooner or later take over control, then you can totally control who buys where what.

And if you have a government critics, who goes to jail in Germany nowadays for rejecting to give vaccines which have not been tested properly, which are dangerous to their patients and who have protected their patients, of course you can go to oblivion, I would say, through just being barred from buying everything, selling you’re unpleasant everywhere. They just switch you off. Yep, yeah. This is the technocratic frontier and it’s a global frontier. And they do not think in terms of nations or not even of blocks like eu. Their strategy is developed globally and implemented globally. And they do not tell you before what is the long term goal.

So we also have to keep track of that. Because in the end this is also geopolitics. If you abolish all the nation states and manage the planet earth and all the societies on earth centrally and globally through a technocracy, this is also about geopolitics, who will control this one center of power which is emerging. And I mean Microsoft for example, got involved, MasterCard, etc. Very pay, I don’t know, they all got involved in the development already of those digital identities. They rolled them out, Bill Gates, for example, through child vaccines in India, in Bangladesh, etc, they are all working on that.

And in the end, and we cannot do anything against it, there is no voice against it. And we cannot as human beings, we cannot interconnect with the Indians, with the Africans, etc, and build an opposition against this. And you have companies, you have the metadata collectors such as Palantir, who get every bit of information, health information, your choices, who you Pay money to what you look at on the Internet. And they’re using this not just to sell you things, but to start being able to predict your behavior and control your behavior. It’s the prediction analysis that is where they’re heading.

And they talked about wanting to do predictive analysis and then. And there’s been movies on it. I think the movies are kind of interesting because they hear things and then they give you a glimpse into what they’re really. And then there’s goofy stuff too, right? People who. But to bring this, to bring this all home. What we’re dealing with is corporate cartels out of control. And what we. Their weakness is that they’re based on a phony paper financial system or a computer system where there’s nothing of value backing it up. And they’re using governments. They’re using governments and war and redistribution to take resources away from the people.

Well, the concern I get with the predictive analysis is that before somebody does a crime, they want to. They totally have you psychoanalyze. They have you in a box. And then they, they, they bring and they, they allow. Allow people who they think are going to move their agenda forward to be able to speak and get involved. And those who don’t will not have a voice. That’s what they’re called. Extremists. They’re called extremists. That’s what we’re dealing with. And I, that’s really great that you guys are standing up and that the country, the people of Germany are standing up.

I had, we’ve done some analysis on, you know, I, I do some analysis with remote viewers. Whether you believe in this stuff or not. And with psychics, they think that, that Europe is where things are going to happen first because there’s, it’s so extreme over there that the push back is happening amongst the people in Europe and Germany is one of those hot places. So hopefully you guys can lead the world in this. I really appreciate everything that you’re doing. I know you’re putting yourself on the line and you’re being courageous. So. And I know Harley has for decades.

So thank you so much for joining the program and for giving us your thoughts and for fighting the good fight. Oh, thank you so much. You allowed us to diving really deep into all these issues. I really enjoy. Thank you very much. Before we leave, though, you need to tell us where they can follow you and where both of you. Where they can. People can learn more about you. Harley, you can start. All right. You can find me at the LaRouche organization. I do a daily update. I write for the Executive Intelligence Review. So either the LaRouche organization or executive Intelligence Review.

And it also if people want to contact me directly, I always do this. And I get a lot of your viewers and loyal fans are communicating with me, including ones who want to debate me. So they can send me personally. Yeah. Harleyschmail, I do get and you know, this I’ve we’ve had on the Israel question a lot of back and forth. So harleyschmail.com yeah, and you can find me on YouTube. But, of course, most of the contributions are in German. If you just use X, just look for my name, Reiner Rothfuss, and there you have the automatic translation.

And it will be much easier then to link up also across the Atlantic. Thank you so much for both of you for joining the program. Really appreciate it.
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