EU Falling United States Barely Hanging on – Strength and Courage Needed to Fight for Free Speech

➡ The article discusses the importance of free speech and platforms like Bitchute that allow people to ask difficult questions. It warns about scams in gold IRAs and urges people to check their investments. The author, Sarah Westall, shares her experiences with being silenced for her ideas and thanks platforms that haven’t deleted her. She also talks about the profound societal changes she’s observing and the disconnect between mainstream narratives and reality.
➡ The article discusses the importance of free speech and privacy in society, focusing on the role of platforms like Bitchute that allow open discussions. It highlights the challenges faced by such platforms, including being labeled as extremist and dealing with trolls. The article also criticizes mainstream platforms for suppressing conversations, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic, which could have led to earlier solutions. Finally, it emphasizes the need for alternative media to hold those in power accountable and promote open dialogue.
➡ The text discusses the importance of free speech and open debates in calming societal tensions. It criticizes the rise of censorship on the internet and its potential role in increasing societal divides. The text also highlights the value of platforms like Bitchute, which allow users to express their opinions freely and anonymously, without collecting their data for profit. Lastly, it criticizes platforms that claim to support free speech but limit the reach of certain voices, arguing that this is not true free speech.
➡ The speaker discusses the increasing censorship and surveillance on the internet, particularly in the UK, due to new laws like the Online Safety Act. They express concern about the impact of these laws on free speech and privacy, noting that some platforms have shut down their UK operations in response. The speaker also highlights the importance of free speech for progress and warns against the dangers of silencing voices that challenge the mainstream narrative. They conclude by emphasizing the need to resist these changes and protect the internet as a space for free expression and dialogue.
➡ The text discusses concerns about powerful individuals and organizations suppressing information about child abuse and other crimes. It criticizes mainstream media and tech platforms for not exposing these issues and suggests that they may be more interested in surveillance and data collection than in protecting children. The text also highlights the importance of alternative media platforms that support free speech and encourages people to resist censorship and surveillance, which can have a chilling effect on society.
➡ The speaker expresses concern over YouTube’s power and its impact on creators’ livelihoods, suggesting it’s abusing its position. They also discuss the rise of alternative platforms like BitChute, which they believe are being unfairly labeled as extreme due to trolls. They argue that BitChute, despite hosting controversial views due to its commitment to free speech, is mostly used by normal people sharing regular content. They urge people to support free speech platforms and not to be swayed by tactics aimed at discrediting them.
➡ The speaker emphasizes the importance of defending our rights, particularly the First Amendment, which were hard-earned by our ancestors. They express concern about people’s unwillingness to endure discomfort to protect these rights. The speaker, originally from the UK but now based in Asia, also discusses the decline of free speech in Europe and their hope for a peaceful turnaround. They appreciate the support and encourage everyone to do their part in preserving these rights.

Sa Sam Most people aren’t. Most, most people are willing to have perfectly civil conversations with each other and that’s what they’re looking for. They’re looking for answers. And platforms like Bitchute allow people to do that, to find answers, to ask questions. Difficult questions. And difficult questions are so important because you know that those are the ones that often matter. Without being able to ask difficult questions, we won’t come to the answers that we need to come to. Just a quick break from the program. I need to share with you an urgent manner about scam gold IRAs and the important need to make sure that you’re working with the trusted company in the precious metals space.

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If you haven’t seen that, go to sarahwestall.substack.com it’s an underlying current that’s going on. I use chat GPT love them or hate them and I started mining its data on the millions of conversations it’s having with everyday people and there’s and it is seeing widespread collapse of engagement of institutions of people who are just stressed at the economic, you know, end of. They’re just to their wits end on so many different issues. And I think the you Know the, the abuses in Gaza. Us seeing that we’re paying for that kind of treatment of other human beings.

The fact that we were told wars are going to end and they keep continuing. The fact that, you know, we’re being suppressed non stop. The fact that people are being shut down, the fact that Epstein, you know, the pedophile networks and people in power are allowed to do this, hurt, harm children and nothing happens to them. I mean, so we’re seeing horrific crimes against human, horrific crimes against children. We’re seeing people get off with, you know, stealing and, and abusing people during COVID people, you know, them lying and not being truthful. Good people who are trying to share information like I’m trying to, I don’t know, you might not think I’m good, but at least I’m trying to share good information.

I’m being accused as somebody who abuses and harasses while these people are allowed to do what they are allowed to do. And so there is a shutdown that’s happening because people are not, this isn’t going unnoticed. People are feeling this deeply and there’s an undercurrent of profound change that’s happening. This is unchartered territory when there’s this kind of profound change happening and there’s this much of a disconnect. Maybe the French Revolution is, is a time that you can point to or some other major changes or shifts that happened in history that you can point to. I, you know, it’s new because we have different dynamics, new situations.

We have the Internet, we have different, you know, it’s different and so, but it’s not any less profound. So this freedom of speech, you know, the fact that, that we aren’t able to talk, I think is compounding this issue. While the mainstre acting like everything is normal, they’re just going on as if it’s the same old, same old. And that’s having a disconnect as well. So this is a profound time. And having Rayon to talk about what he’s seeing, how his channel, you know, his platform, what they believe in, you know, I just want to thank all of the platforms that support me.

You know, I told Rumble, some people claim that Rumble I, I’m supported. Nobody I know has ever been kicked off Rumble. So there’s that. They cannot be as bad as YouTube. For everybody who says that, it’s just, I don’t think that’s even remotely the case. I’m allowed on Rumble Bitchute. I’m allowed on Bitchute. I’m allowed on Bastion. I’m allowed on Brighton. I’m allowed. And thank you Apple. Apple never kicked me off their platform. They probably were too embarrassed to put me up there as anybody they want to promote. But you know, because of the powers that be that are pushing back, I’m not that weird.

Give me a try. Give me a try. Share it with your friends. I’m not that strange. Maybe they might actually agree with some of the things I say. Maybe I’m not that out of the mainstream. I’m just silenced because my ideas don’t go along with the narrative. But I want to thank anybody that hasn’t deleted me because I think it’s my ideas that are scary, not their claims that I’m abusing or harassing anybody. That’s laughable. I think that is what they are doing. I think it’s the ideas. The ideas is what scares them. The ideas is what we are, what freedom is about, what free will is about.

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You’re one of the Few free speech platforms that are out there that are truly dedicated to free speech. I noticed that, you know, being the head of Bitchute, I noticed that Bitchute gets a lot of trolls and a lot of how are you? It gets propped up as being extremist. Right. And they do all these trolls and all these people to make, you know, because all of a sudden I get this stream of people on my platform with trolls that make me look extreme when I’m like, this is not, you wouldn’t even listen. A person who makes a comment like that is not even listening to my, my, my program.

So how are, what are you guys doing about that kind of situation? Yeah, so from the time we launched in 2017, we’ve been pro free speech, pro privacy. So of course that does mean tolerating views that you like and tolerating views that you don’t like, which is very important. Important that there are platforms out there that allow that and important that for a society at large. Because without free speech, an open and free society cannot exist. But yeah, messy. It’s messy. And, and we do have people on the platform who speak their mind. But I would say those people are also on X and other platforms as well.

So it’s not exclusive to Bitchute. But yeah, people do say things that you know are hurtful sometimes. And, and I, I would just say to anyone, block them. If you don’t want them on your channel, you can block them. And as a, as a platform, we don’t block anyone because you know, we’re, we believe in free speech absolutism. But if there is someone who’s you don’t like, then you, you do have the power to block them from your channel and you know, that’s your freedom of association. So. But this is the important part of free speech, right? Is that we can’t be so scared of these, of being labeled an extremist or having to deal with these.

I deal with non stop trolls and comments. That’s my point is that, and they trying to label me as an extremist because if that, that’s convenient way of shutting me down when I’m like these people wouldn’t even listen to me necessarily. And you do have a free speech pamphlet is going to have some extremists on it. But that’s being afraid of that, that the, you know, and shutting that down comes with it also shutting down truth. That’s very important for us here. It’s shutting down the essence of free will essentially because you don’t get the options of hearing information.

And we saw it with COVID where they mass deplatformed people who ended up, as time is passing, they deplatformed me as time was passing. We were right. Yeah, that’s absolutely right. And during the COVID years, we were one of the few platforms that allowed anyone to speak about certain topics. All of the mainstream platforms were deplatforming people, you know, for what now seems like very sensible conversations that we should have all been allowed to have. I remember going back to some of the reasons that people were deplatformed for having the idea that maybe this virus might have come from a lab that was right next to the wet market, where it was supposed to have come from one of the few labs in the world where one of these types of viruses is worked on.

And you couldn’t have that conversation. You couldn’t have that point of view. And in the early days, everyone was speculating. No one had all the answers. So you just were allowed to speculate if you had the government, the establishment point of view, but if you had ideas that were contrary to that, even if they eventually turned out to be right, as many of them did, you weren’t allowed to even speculate. And many people lost their YouTube channels, their ex accounts, their Facebook accounts. I did, yes, across the board. And this is a really terrible thing, because how much sooner could we have come to important answers about COVID if we had all been allowed to speak about it? How much sooner could we have, you know, we could have saved lives from talking about these things and coming to better solutions sooner, but we weren’t allowed to on many platforms.

And Bitsheet was an exception to that. And boy, were we attacked during that time because we refused to shut down speech, perfectly legal speech, and conversations that people desperately wanted to have, but we didn’t back down. And, you know, that’s some of the reason that we’re called things like extremists, because we support fundamental human rights. We just believe that everyone should be able to speak their mind as long as they’re not harming anyone else. Well, didn’t that used to be. Didn’t that used to be common? I mean, that used to be just part of the thread of, I know you’re.

You have an accent. I assume you’re originally from the UK or that region. You need to tell us where you’re from. But in the United States, it’s always been the fabric of our society to accept free speech. And it was as if they’re just throwing that out the window. And because we just knew that being able to hear and debate was how you come up with rational decisions. It was like these basic tenets of civilization was thrown out the door. Absolutely. And yeah, it’s the same across the Western world. I go back like 10, 20 years, and everyone was able to somewhat agree that even if we disagree on politics, that we’re able to agree that we need these fundamental human rights, like free speech, like privacy, in order to have the conversation so that we can disagree in a way that will allow us to reach a compromise to find answers.

But for some reason, especially in the last, I would say, eight years, these important rights have just become partisan issues, have become issues that we no longer can agree on across the board. And that has, in my mind, created a lot of problems. It’s created further division in society. Because if we can’t talk about things, if we can’t come to answers peacefully, then what other options are there than to increase the divides that now unfortunately are there in society? Well, and it seems that the ones who are the most interested in shutting down free speech and eliminating privacy are the ones in power.

And the great minds and the great thinkers of our time are, I always thought this was the tenets of basic civilization are being swept under the rug and ignored for, you know, and propping up what was always known to be the basis of tyranny and horrific crimes against humanity, that, that inevitably come from embracing these ideas. Yeah. And, you know, this is the reason why I got into Bitchute, because I thought, right, you know, it’s so important that we have voices that are able to speak truth to power, hold power to account. And I noticed years ago, back in 2016, and, you know, there were alternative media voices talking about this, that the mainstream media just wasn’t doing a good job.

It wasn’t able to hold the people in power to account. And the alternative media was rising up and doing, filling that gap that the mainstream just couldn’t do anymore. You know, things like if you look back at the Iraq war, weapons of mass destruction, or the scandals that happened in my country in the uk with people like Jimmy Seville, that just wasn’t covered for decades, you know, and I really saw the alternative media as the answer. And I think we desperately need to have a strong media in an open and free society and, you know, people who are able to, like I say, hold power to account.

Well, and I’m, I, I just did a substack article where, and I hope Chat GPT is, is still a trustworthy mean, you can Actually end a trustworthy for chat DPT I understand but you. There’s the interesting thing about chat GPT is they’re talking to, it’s talking to millions of people and it’s talking in a way that you wouldn’t get publicly. Like people are pouring their souls out with chat GPT and asking questions and really trying to figure things out. And I data mined it. I said okay, I want to know based on the millions of conversations you’re having what’s really going on.

And what I learned through this, this data mining process was that there is this profound change occurring but at the same time there’s this system wide collapse happening as well. People should go to my sub stack and read this. It’s something that we haven’t seen in history. Maybe the French Revolution was, was a time where there was this kind of profound change swelling up and it is probably the reaction to the incredible suppression and the, the powers that be digging their heels in with arrogance on ignoring what people are saying and acting like nothing is going on while continuing the crimes that they’re continuing.

And are you. I want to hear your opinion on about, about that and how a free speech platform is so important to actually, I mean in some ways it fuels this revolution but in other ways it can help calm it down. Yeah, I absolutely do believe that free speech and the right to have these debates in the open market is the way that we do calm things down. And I mean if, if you look at the rise of censorship across the Internet and you look at the divide of in, in society, there’s a very good correlation there.

Now you can’t always say that that proves causation but it does look like it’s worth investigating. Right. Because we have stopped talking to each other. I remember the days when I was younger and you know, you could go into, you could go up to someone who was on the opposite side of politics. I’m libertarian these days, so there probably isn’t really an opposite side of politics. But you know, a left leaning person could speak to a right leaning person and while they would disagree, they would still find things to agree on and they would still shake hands at the end of it.

But that seems to be going away. I noticed this especially in the US and especially in the UK people that the divide is just increasing and increasing. And I can’t help but think that that is happening because of the censorship. And you know, the censorship is often put out by the establishment as a solution to that problem. But it absolutely isn’t. I don’t see how it possibly can be. And this is why platforms like Bitchute that allow people to say anything that’s legal, as long as they’re not harming anyone, as long as they’re not inciting violence.

And we do have rules, you know, we. Sure, yeah, we respect the law. We don’t allow people to make threats, things like that, but most people aren’t. Most people are willing to have perfectly civil conversations with each other. And that’s what they’re looking for. They’re looking for answers. And platforms like Bitchute allow people to do that, to find answers, to ask questions, difficult questions. And difficult questions are so important because, you know, those are the ones that often matter. Without being able to ask difficult questions, we won’t come to the answers that we need to come to.

So that’s where I see Bitchute providing a service like that. And that’s why we’ve grown, frankly. And along with that, we also provide privacy. Something you said there about Chat GTP also interested me because, of course, all your data that you’re putting into it is being scooped up. We don’t do that Bitchute. So all these major platforms, they use surveillance as their business model. There’s actually big money in collecting your data. So everything you’re typing, everything you’re doing online, is typically on all these major platforms being gathered up and sold to third parties and eventually reaching your government through third parties, which is a proxy.

Yep, right, right. It’s something they couldn’t do because of the Fourth Amendment if they just wanted to get into your home, but they can do when they buy it through third parties. And that’s another major difference in Bitchute that we allow you to come onto the platform, speak your mind, and remain anonymous. We don’t collect lots and lots of data like every other platform does. That’s not our business model. And we’re very rare in that because every other platform realizes there’s so much money to be made from data. Well, and the other issue is that if they’re shutting voices like mine down and other voices and they’re collecting that data thinking that they’re getting a realistic picture of what’s going on, they’re not, because the censorship gives them a skewed idea of what’s really happening.

And that’s why there’s. There’s this broom. Now, Chat GPT is interesting because it’s not doing that. And so it’s getting a much better analysis, which is scary as well. But it. Chat GPT is a little bit better at At, I mean, it’s much better at doing, searching and you can get to real information. I don’t know how long that’s going to last. But the, the other thing that I was going to ask you as being a free speech platform, how do you see, you know what, what I, this is really what I wanted to say is that X, you were saying that we were both talking about how censorship is really important to not have censorship, to, to really help depress and decompress the situation.

You look at X, which attempted to do that in theory, but everybody’s realizing that so much of a, of the people on there are still suppressed. People didn’t get their channels back. These big looks like their CIA operatives kind of people are getting huge followings and other people are not. And so does that almost backfire in the, in the back channels when everybody’s realizing and can analyze that it was just almost a shallow attempt to try to decompress and say, hey, we’re not censoring. We’re allowing all these voices. But in reality they’re not. And they tell you this, right? Because out of Elon Musk’s own words, he says that he will allow free speech, but not freedom of reach.

If you ask me, the two are inseparable. You know, if you allow someone to shout into an empty room, how is that free speech? It’s not. So this is what’s happening on X with the people. And you’re right, a lot of people haven’t had their accounts back, but it seems that some people have at least. And you know, that’s a good thing. But what does it mean if they can’t get the reach? You know, maybe they get some reach just to make them think that they’re not shadow banned, but actually they are. So, yeah, it’s not real free speech.

And I think some people are noticing, but others are waking up more slowly to the fact that they’re very happy to be back on a major platform like X. And you know, it might take others longer to figure this out that actually this is not really what it was 10 years ago. It’s just a shadow band platform. You have your free speech without the reach. It’s not really free speech. But Bitchute is different in that regard as well, in that we put a financial, we have a guarantee, a financial guarantee that says that we will not shadow ban anyone on the platform.

So anyone who can prove to us that they’ve been shadow banned on Bitchute is entitled to a $10,000 guarantee. And you know, we will go through all the evidence and look at it. So we’re that confident that we don’t shadow ban. We never want to shadow ban because this is what being a true free speech platform is about. And you’re absolutely right. I mean, it’s not solving any problems unless you allow real free speech. It’s like, I don’t know, when you tidy your room, if you sweep all the dirt under the carpet and then you stuff everything into the cupboards, you know, is the room really tidy? No, it gives the appearance for a while, but then eventually someone’s going to come walking in, step on the carpet and the bulge and it’s all going to come spilling out and the problem’s just going to be worse than it was in the first place.

So, yeah, it is so important that we have real free speech and reach and X, even though it’s, I have to give him some credit, it’s an improvement on what it was in some ways it still isn’t there. I hope it, I hope it does become a real free speech platform. I truly hope it does. But I have my doubts, I have to say, because like you, I think there’s a bit of gaming going on, trying to convince people, pull the wool over their eyes and say, yeah, we’re all, we’ve all got free speech on X now.

Well, and that’s why this, you know, I’ve been thinking about it for a while and I put this article. Now I’m seeing a lot of, after I publish that article, I’m seeing a lot of things come out after I publish that, saying some of the same things that I’ve been saying. So I don’t know, maybe it’s some psychic connection or something that people tend to do that they see one and then it kind of spreads. But I’ve been thinking about for a while and I just had to, you know, get to this something, some of this information, but the fact that it’s so profound and it’s occurring is something that we can’t ignore.

And I also see it with like kind of the Gaza situation or the wars or I mean, you can list issue after issue where they put this facade in the mass media that everything is normal when it’s not. And it, maybe it worked before and now they’re arrogant and they just don’t have another playbook and the Internet has changed the game and they don’t know how to deal with it because right now there is so much profound change going on that I think that, you know, the only way that they are going to get through this is to start facing the music and in embracing the ideals that Bitchute has.

Yeah, I mean, we have seen some change. I’ve seen some change in recent years in that if you go back to 2016 through to 2020, really the censorship then was all coming from the platforms themselves, with maybe pressure from the legacy media and activist groups. But I have noticed a shift towards governments around the world implementing laws to make hate speech crimes illegal, make other misinformation crimes illegal. They’re doubling down on it. Yeah, they are. So, yes, this is the shift that I’m seeing now, which is quite a serious thing that we all need to be paying attention to.

In fact, we pulled out of the uk. We’ve actually shut down the website within the UK about two months ago because of laws that they brought in called the Online Safety act, which I actually call the Online Surveillance and Censorship Act. It really is that bad. And you know, on the face of it, you might think, well, that’s just the uk. No, it actually affects us people, people all over the world who are using platforms that are available in the uk. So they’re now able to scoop up massive amounts of data about Americans because they’re. Because they’re enforcing UK laws onto platforms that might be American platforms but have a presence in the uk.

So we took a very principled stand on that. We said, no, we’re not going to collaborate with this really strong censorship and surveillance. And we shut down our presence there entirely. And I think other platforms are now doing the same. I noticed Gab did the same, 4chan did the same. And other platforms, even X, is starting to talk about this. But this is the thing that’s happening right now that I’m concerned about and that we need to really resist and make sure that we’re not allowing them to turn the Internet into a place where, you know, everything is surveilled, where you require your government ID to log onto any website, where governments are able to mandate what speech is allowed and what isn’t.

And that is what they’re trying to build and that we have to resist. And the US thankfully, is still in a better position. Well, let me tell you about an interview that I just did with Kieran Kelly. He is the largest ocean cleanup, is a CEO of the world’s large, largest ocean cleanup company. And he came out and he. And he said, if I would have said this in Ireland, he’s now a US citizen, but he says, I would have said this in Ireland, I would have been Jailed and, and he told the story about his son being beaten and killed.

16 year old. And he, it’s important for his voice to get out there because he has some things that need to be said not only about the corruption, but also about the truth of the environmentalist movement and how we do have some serious issues in the environment, but not what they’re telling us. And how that is going to fundamentally impact every single person on this planet in a way that, you know, all these environmentalists who are left leaning, who are being told inaccurate information because they’re sensitive, censored and they’re not allowed to hear what’s really going on is going to impact them as well.

And so they need to wake the F up and start listening to more voices and not be okay with all this censorship. So somebody like that who’s being censored really needs to be allowed to speak. But the ramifications of is that his son was killed. He had to change and get, become an American citizen. All these things just to share with the world the truth that he’s seeing firsthand. That’s terrible. And yeah, this is how we make all progress and have made all progress throughout history. Whether it’s scientific or political or legal or personal. All of our growth has as a, as a people has come through talking through free speech.

So to take that away is very dangerous. And we’re seeing the same in different countries around the world. Canada, not too far across the border, they’re arresting people for hate speech. In the UK I just read recently that they’re arresting over 30 people a day for offenses such as causing offense to someone you know and hate is this nebulous thing like what one person thinks is hateful, another person might not. Who knows? You get 10 people in a room and ask them what, what they think is hate speech and you’ll probably get 10 different ideas. So, but, but yeah, this is the way it, it happens that usually governments go for the lowest hanging fruit, the things that people won’t object to so much.

Maybe controversial opinions that many people wouldn’t agree with and they pass laws based on that. But then it, you know, seeps into science, it seeps into other areas. So this is why it’s so important that we must never make any compromise on this fundamental human right. We must support free speech for everyone. Because once we agree with, to take it away from anyone, we’re agreeing in principle to take it away from everyone. And you get situations like the one you described. Well, what’s happening is that in those Kind of scenarios, which is what I believe is happening to me.

They don’t want me to speak because I have a credentialed background. I’m smart. People listen to me. And he does too. Right? We have credentialed background people. So then what they do. Because I’m kicked off YouTube for harassing and bullying people, they don’t want me coming out and talking about my scientific experiment experience or my ability to read studies or my ability to articulate things that are more ideas and, and worth worthwhile for people to listen to. So they come up with. They trump up this, this excuse of me bullying and harassing people so they don’t listen to the ideas that are being put forward.

That’s what these hate speech laws are. And then they. They bring out really extreme people who might be, you know, a Ku Klux Klan member or something that we all are like, okay, we don’t like these people. They’re extreme. But in that they’re using it as a cloaking kind of system to really take down people who have ideas who could challenge the narrative. And these ideas, just like with COVID were the ones people need to listen to because it would change the direct trajectory of where we’re going. And it’s dangerous if we don’t listen to these people because they ended up being right during COVID and a lot of us are right now, too.

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And. Yeah, and the other thing they do is they always pin it on children so that, you know, governments, when they like to pass on popular laws, they say, think of the children. We’re only protecting them. That’s what’s happening right now as well. You mentioned hate speech. Protecting children is another way. So for example, the laws that have been passed in the uk, A minister just came out the other day and said if you use a vpn, which is a privacy tool, you are harming children. It’s crazy, it’s ridiculous, it’s ludicrous. Okay, well, let me ask you, I have to say this.

Okay. There is, there is the issue of harming children. Okay, we get that. But. But when the people who are suppressing us have been caught in blackmail, Epstein type traps with children and they’re suppressing that, how, how do we trust these people? That’s the underlying current that’s happening is that the same people that are shutting my voice down and bitchute and attacking all of us are the same people that are covering for the Epstein crimes and doing genocide in Gaza. So that’s where people are getting pissed. Right. And yeah, and alternative media was very useful in exposing these crimes.

Right? Yeah. They wouldn’t allow Jimmy Savile information to get out, for example, which if people don’t know about Jimmy Saville, people need to know. These same people are the ones that were suppressing the Jimmy Savile. Do you want to protect children? They’re. They’re hiding the grossest crimes against children. I’m sorry, keep going. Well, Jimmy Savile, for example, he was at the very top of the establishment. He worked in the BBC and was connected also to the Royal Family, so as high as in the UK establishment as you can get. And he was for 40 years while working at the BBC and connected to them abusing children.

And this is, you know, one of the best known news organizations in the world, if not the best known, the BBC. And they couldn’t expose him. And there were many voices trying to expose him over the years. That was the problem. So here’s the thing. They were supposed to be the top journalistic organization in the world, according to them. And, and so they knew. And that’s what under. That’s why they couldn’t expo. They couldn’t admit to it. Because if the top journalists in the world didn’t know they had an open pedophile who was connected to everybody, who, everybody was screaming at their top of the lungs trying to tell them, you know, they couldn’t with a straight face say they didn’t know.

Just like with the Epstein stuff. Right. And if misinformation laws come in and if harassment laws come in, you know, that are really not harassment laws, but just hate speech laws, then you know, there are going to be more cases of this. There’s going to be more people who are doing these sorts of crimes who are getting away with it. But going back to your other point as well, about we do want to protect children. Yes, we absolutely do. And you know, there’s other ways, better ways to do that than surveilling the whole planet. You know, there’s very simple solutions.

For example, you can put filters on your child’s phone and they’ll be protected from websites that are adult websites that you wouldn’t want them to see. So governments, if they really cared about children, they would be proposing solutions like this, this. But they’re not. They’re proposing solutions that scoop up all the data about everyone because there’s an ulterior motive there, in my opinion, that they want to collect information. That’s the, you know, the, the children is a secondary thing. The primary thing is getting all of our information, being able to control us better, being able to, you know, you know, not face as much criticism as we would like to point at them.

So this is, this is what’s going on at the moment. And you know, this is why we have to resist it and why we need alternative voices, why we need platforms like Bitchute and platforms that support speech. Well, I welcome people to watch my interview with Bill Benny and Kathryn Horton where we talk about this and the, the surveillance that they’re doing is a double edged sword. If they were really interested in taking down all these black male pedophile networks because they could do it like that, they have the data, they already have it. Why aren’t they doing it? That’s why they, people need to understand and put this pressure on these people and say if you aren’t qualified to get these things done, we need people who can.

Well, it wouldn’t be the first time that the criminals got away and the ordinary law abiding citizens were the ones that suffered. There’s been many times, you know, you look at all the laws that are passed during 911 to see that. But you know, also surveillance in itself is, has been shown in many studies to Also suppress free speech. If you remember years ago, the Snowden revelations, after that, there were studies done into the effect of everyone knowing that they’re being surveilled by the government. And it came out that, yeah, people were less willing to search for controversial things online, even search for medical advice, search for sexual advice.

All these sorts of things were suppressed. But even worse than that, they were less willing to engage in political activity or sign petitions or just do things that would get them noticed. Because even very subconsciously, this is something called the, the chilling effect, where people, if they’re being surveilled all the time and that they subconsciously know that they are, they just won’t behave the way that they would have behaved. You know, an American is becoming less American because of it. That is another really unfortunate side effect of what is going on at the moment and why we must resist it.

Well, and the Supreme Court brought that up. A few different members of the Supreme Court saying it’s very troublesome that we’re having the chilling effect happening here, which we very much are. And then journalists like me, people on the front lines, it puts us more in danger. We are in danger. I mean, you can just see by suppressing and accusing me of being a bully in, and harassing people when I, I really don’t. I mean, there it is almost laughable to call me somebody that bullies and harasses people when I’m helping people out of IRA scams.

I’m doing everything I can to not be that type person overall and just pointing the finger at criminals. And, and so what it’s doing is, it’s putting the, the legit people who are working really hard to expose and to help humanity rise to a better level. It’s putting all of us in danger by accepting this. And then it’s, it’s, it’s forcing other people underground. Yeah. And that may be the desired effect to force people underground to make their voices less heard. And yeah, we, we just have to keep resisting this because you know that that is going to make things worse for ordinary people if that ever happens.

Well, I’m so glad you have so much courage because this is so important. What you’re doing is a very courageous thing. And getting back to that every. There’s so many people that claim that they agree with free speech, but yet Everybody’s still using YouTube, everybody’s still using these, these platforms. How do we get people to wake up and start embracing those platforms? You know, that bit shoot, people complain about Rumble, but Rumble is, is, is Supporting me. How do we get people to support BitShoot and Rumble and Bastion and these platforms that are free speech platforms, they keep going back to their.

It’s almost the. What do you call it when you love your capture? It’s the. Oh, oh, I can’t think of it either, but I know what you mean. Yeah, the something effect. Yeah, this, the, the. It’s right on the front of my. Well, yeah. Where you love the abuser and people are going to put it all in the comments. So thank you for putting it in the comment for me. It. That’s what we’re dealing with, I think, where people are loving their capture and abuser and they just won’t stop using YouTube and embracing the. If we embrace the free speech platforms overnight, this problem went out.

End period. It would end. We have the power to end this, but yes we do. And it’s important to have more conversations like this and to spread the word. Everyone has the ability to tell everyone else that they know about the problems. I think even though censorship and surveillance has been in the news, people still don’t appreciate how bad it is and how much damages it’s doing to society. And you know, it’s everyone’s responsibility who understands to get that message out and to say to people, hey, look, if you want to use YouTube, that’s okay, but try these other platforms.

You know, maybe there’s some content you want to watch over there as well. Just give it a go. Because our biggest problem at the moment in is just awareness. Most people just don’t know that Bitchute exists. Exists. If you ask them. I think as more people become aware, they will try Bit Shoot out and other platforms out that support these principles and you know, day by day we can chip away at these monopolies that frankly have too much power and have been abusing their power for years. And that in itself is a huge problem because when, when they have that much power and people are, you know, just think that they’ve got no other option to go anywhere else, they do abuse it.

And you know, and you know, meta is no better. Facebook is no better. X is a little bit better. YouTube really has just destroyed a lot of livelihoods over the last 20, several years. They, they really have abused the power that was put into their hands. And I used to love YouTube as a platform. I had my own YouTube channel going back years ago and you know, I have my own. One of those silver plaques from, from YouTube. I used to think, right, this is a great equalizer. Anyone could come to this platform. They can get an education that would have cost thousands of dollars before, but now they can get it for free.

It’s a great leveler. So the richest person in the world and the poorest person in the world can find out the same information. So it would be a tragedy if, you know, if we didn’t have places like that. So that’s another reason to support alternatives. Yeah. It was almost like I grew up with that freedom. It was like it changed my whole paradigm in the world because suddenly it was like the light went off. Wow. I learned so much when the Internet was free. And these, this new generation of people aren’t being able to see it.

It’s quite the opposite. It’s very sad to see that that transition that occurred. And I would argue that platforms like YouTube, you know, I make a living online, so they are messing with my living. They are, they are abusing, I would argue they’re abusing me and others. And quite the opposite. I’m not abusing people, but they surely are abusing me and abusing quite a bit of people and making it so it’s very hard for us to make a living. And so that is a very definitive. By definition, abuse is what they’re doing, while almost narcissist. That’s like narcissism where the abuser turns around and accuse the others of abuse that they’re actually doing and which.

That’s what powerful institutions do. Right. They’re actually abusing and accusing others of being the abusing. But we have to wake up to that and support. Now, I want to get back to what I started with in that you have a lot of trolls on Bitchute and I think the reason you have that is to put you into a box of extremism from the standpoint of the average person. And that if the average person went there and we started to drown that out, it would change the dynamic. And people need to realize that they’re doing this on purpose.

Part of the fifth generation warfare against Bitchute is to make you look extreme so that people say, well, now I understand why they’re being censored. No, a lot of these people, a lot of what you’re seeing on there are trolls that are paying to make bitchute look extreme when they’re not. And I, I wish more people would listen to me on there and realize there is a lot of normal people on Bitchute who are being suppressed to have really good things that we need to say. So I want to go back to that from where we started and talk about the fact that you’re being framed as something that, yeah, freedom brings the extremes, but freedom also brings a lot of normal people who are just challenging the mainstream narrative and that people need to understand this because we have to get out from underneath that war tactic that they’re using against you.

Yeah, I mean, so I would say that we do have, I mean the vast majority of Bit Shoot videos and commenters are actually very normal people. You know, we’ve got a lot of knitting videos, football videos, just normal news videos. But yeah, I mean, it is part of being a free speech platform that you tolerate views that other platforms won’t. And that does mean that there is a, an opening to abuse that. And you’re not the first person to have said that to me that hey, this could be, you know, organized groups who are just doing.

For sure, it is, it is, it’s very, yeah, it’s very, it puts us in a difficult situation because we, you know, I know our principles do not allow us to, to, to ban people even if they have viewpoints that are really controversial and that, you know, even that I might vehemently disagree with. I would not want to ban someone because I disagreed with them. But yeah, people have said that and you know, we, we do look for signs of that. So when we can find that there is like a botnet operating on Bit Shoot, then that is against our rules.

You know, that’s the sort of malicious use of the platform and we shut that down. But there’s probably also, you know, if, if you really go on Mitchu and look at some of the comments, there’s some great comments there, there’s great comments that you wouldn’t get on YouTube, like really in depth, well explained, well researched, intelligent people who are talking about things that other people, you know, really could benefit from if they, if they read it. So it’s not all bad. And you know, I’ve been on X a bit recently and you know, they, they’ve, they’ve got their own share of quite extreme.

I, yeah, no, it’s everywhere. But I, but I just want to, I, I, I’m not doing this to make you get into the defense mode and I, I, you probably get told that a lot. I’m saying this to try to get people to, that are, that are out there at large to say we have to recognize this, that this is part of the tactic and that if we, and embrace free speech platforms that we have to realize that this is what’s going on and that they’re trying to convince us not to support the free speech platforms by doing this.

And we can’t allow that to alter our support of free speech because of this war tactic that they’re implementing. They have a lot of resources and. Yeah, you don’t. Yeah. And sometimes the, the perception of it is made worse by the media. Like we’ve had reports about Bitchute where they written a whole mainstream media hit piece because they found, I think it was a hundred. And it was less than 120 videos that they found that were terrorist videos on bit sheet. And you know, that is wrong. We remove those types of videos. But when you compare that to other platforms like YouTube, like every platform, they, those videos are on every single platform in larger quantities with larger views.

So it’s sometimes where they want to shine the light to, to say, hey, look, these guys over here are, you know, bad guys. They’re. The term that they always like to use is far right. And I’m anything but far right. I grew up, as you could call a. Have called me a leftist when I was young and I, you know, became libertarian as I grew older. So that they do these, these dirty tactics that have made us look bad. Yeah. In the press and in places like Wikipedia and. But people who then come to BITU and check out the content that is there and see that, hey, this is, this is normal content saying things that I believe in or, you know, things that I, I can understand and that, you know, they get a different impression of us.

And that’s why we’ve got a loyal and growing audience, frankly. And that’s. Yeah. So there are problems like this where. But I think you always get to get these problems where you’re going to get trolls online and you have to come up with ways to deal with this that doesn’t give into censorship. Because once, once you give in to censorship, then you’re on. You’ve already abandoned the principle and then it’s, you know, the question is, well, if you censored this person, why can’t you censor another? Why can’t you censor another for a different reason? And you soon find yourself on that slippery slope.

So we’ve always resisted that. But I would urge anyone to give bitch you a try. Look at the content that you can find there. And you know, if you go searching for something that’s offensive or racist or whatever it is, you’re going to find that anywhere. But if you just go code to Bitchu and you, you use it and you’re looking for content that you like, you’re going to find a whole bunch of that there. And, yeah, and the people who have hung around understand what we’re about, that we’re about free speech. We’re about privacy. We’re not about causing offense or we’re not about racism or any of these things.

But. But we believe in free speech to prove that. Because we believe that free speech is the way to fight those, to fight hate, frankly, that is the way that you do it. That’s the way that has always worked throughout history. There is no other way. It’s the opposite of what they’re saying. Free speech shuts down all of that. Now, what do you say to those people as we end this, who are yawning on topic like, aha, that’s just. I’m sick of this topic. You know what I mean? It was a big deal in 2020. Now they’re like, it’s like, you can’t be.

Keep going. Tell me what you think. It’s an important topic. And, you know, this is a right that has come at great cost to our ancestors. You know, we have these rights, First Amendment, number one right. People. People died to bring us these rights. And without, you know, great cost to them, we wouldn’t have them today. I mean, the rights exist whether we’re told they. I should point that out that rights are rights. They’re not granted. They’re something that we innately have. But to bring things like the First Amendment, to create a country like America that was born on these principles came at great cost to many people.

So for us today to turn around and say, hey, we’re not willing to put up with a little bit of discomfort or we’re not willing to defend these rights, I think is the wrong attitude. We all need to be doing that. We all need to do our part. We need to. It’s such a little thing compared to all of those who have gone before us, you know, to make sure that we keep these rights, we don’t give them up so easily. Well, thank you so much for having the courage to do what you’re doing, especially being in the U.K.

i mean, you are that. I mean, the crackdown in Europe is incredible. And so the fact that you are sticking with it and have the courage, I should say I’m out of the UK actually, and Bit Shoot is out of the uk, so it’s a US Company. I’m actually in Asia right now. Should have said that. Well, you had to. When did you leave the uk? Oh, I. I left years ago from the uk okay. And so you do you still have family there and you have. Yeah, I do still have family but yeah. But I feel more of a kindred spirit to America now than the UK and the UK was a country that really came up with the concept of free speech so it’s such a shame.

Do you feel sad? Do you feel like you. It’s almost a death of a culture. I hope it can be changed. I think it can. I think there’s a lot of people who remember these ideals and are willing to fight for them but it needs to happen. People need to do their part or we suffer from a devolved civilization civil state for until we can reclaim it. Yeah, let’s hope not though I think we can do this peacefully. I think, you know, it’s not too late to turn things around. Well, thank you so much and thanks for everything that you’re doing doing I really appreciate it and so does everyone out there, whether they realize it or not.

Thank you so much, Sarah. It’s a pleasure. Sa.
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