End of Aging Hydrogen Bomb Research Serial Killers Violent Behavior Bipolar Research w/Dr Walsh

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➡ The speaker worked on top-secret projects related to hydrogen bombs, where he made significant discoveries that improved the nation’s production rate. Despite the secrecy and high stakes, he was able to identify and correct major design flaws in experiments that had previously failed. However, he later questioned the morality of his work and decided not to continue in the weapons industry. Instead, he pursued a career in academia, despite facing some challenges in securing a suitable position.
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I found out that they had designed it wrong. It wasn’t. It looked to me like it was an inferior design. And I asked is it okay if I can change things? And no problem with money, you know, you need ten hundred thousand dollars. No problem. And so we changed. I changed the experiment. Nobody knew what I was doing. But I found out what the cause was. Wow. Did they, did it end up changing? And then I went back to my supervisor and said I think I found out the cause. And he said he didn’t believe it.

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And I. Okay. I had him come on because I wanted to talk about. Well, I want to talk. I just thought he had interesting things in his background but I didn’t realize how interesting he was until he came on and he has figure cracked the nut behind or the reason behind bipolar disease, which is very important because it’s a really debilitating disease that, that is, that doesn’t discriminate. I mean it doesn’t matter who you are. Ridge poor, whatever race you are, it goes after you. And it’s really an awful disease. And he’s been able to figure that out.

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But this guy is super fascinating. I had a really great time talking to him. And it kept going into these other areas that were just very. And then because he is an expert in, one of the world’s expert in behavioral sc. You know, the, the. The science behind different behaviors. He ended up being on this team where he would interview all these serial killers and including his head’s background on Charles Manson and what his biochemistry was that caused him to be a violent serial killer. And he also talks about how his institute works with. He. He teaches doctors and scientists and psychiatrists how to treat mental health without drugs.

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And then you also are one of the world’s experts on behavior and what motivates violent behavior. Right. And that was a major interest of mine for a long year. Many years. Yeah. And and then you’ve been able to crack the code for bipolar disorder. So I think that’s important. These are really important things to talk about. But I want to know a little bit more about your top secret work on the hydrogen bomb because people don’t realize there’s even top secret programs at all going on right now. So what did you work on and how did you get involved in that? Well, actually all the way up to grad school I wasn’t really all that interested in education.

I thought I was going to be an athlete. But then I got to the University of Michigan grad school and I got involved doing doing experimental work and I found I just fell in love with nuclear physics and nuclear experiments and I switched my my major to nuclear engineering and I started doing nuclear experiments and actually was really, really successful because my I was told that that a study I did was the most the best study that he had ever seen in the department. And one of the people there was doing top secret work with the government and I didn’t know that.

And so when I told them I wanted to have a summer job, they said well why don’t you go to Savannah River? Well that’s a top that was a top secret place in South Carolina. Absolutely top, top secret. It had five of the world’s biggest and most powerful nuclear reactors. And they were churn and they were basically making the materials, the tritium, deuteperium, plutonium and everything that was needed for the hydrogen bomb. Problem was they were in a, they were constantly harassed by the Pentagon because we were in a nuclear arms race way back then. When was way back then? What was the year? That was 1959, would you believe.

And there was this race where they’re each, each side trying to make the most, you know, get the most bombs and all. And they were having a problem. I found out that they, the, these reactors were scramming once too often. In other words, they would get overheated, get dangerous. They had to shut down. Once they shut down, they couldn’t start up again for about six weeks because the radiation was so high and so it was slowing the production of hydrogen bonds. 10,000 people there, I didn’t know a soul and had all, all this, you know, got started.

And when I got there, they didn’t know I was coming. And the guy said, well, hold on. Can I ask you one question about the 10,000 people? Well, these are the, they were all top secret, doing top secret work, trying to help produce hydrogen bombs for the, for the country. 10,000 people, most of them scientists, just trying to figure stuff out. Engineers, technicians, secretaries, everything. Okay, okay. But very, very, very. It was so secret, I was not even allowed to talk to people in my carpool, what I was doing. And on my desk when I was working, I could not leave anything written on my desk.

I had to lock every piece of everything that I had written in a safe if I just wanted to visit the restroom or go to lunch. And they had people coming around looking for people who had left things unattended. And they were. And so they, they would be a big, big thing if, if anybody next to me could find what I was doing. It was, you know, that’s interesting because the big tech, some of the big tech companies, they operate like that now. So they learned, I think they learned from the military and the top secret programs how to inside there because they don’t use patent systems really.

It’s all trade secrets. And so they put Everybody on, on NDAs and they operate like a top secret military organization. I can’t say interesting. Well, I just know from what I know. Go ahead. They had spent and I, I don’t know how many millions of dollars. The money was not a problem, believe me. And they had a big experiment under about 3ft of water trying to understand why the reactors were scramming and they had, they had a lot that was a major, major effort, and it failed. After three years, they gave up. And so when the, when I, when I showed up there and they weren’t sure what I, what they wanted me to do, they assigned me to that.

So I spent, I, I spent the whole time at this nuclear reactor site where they had all this equipment and that had failed and what happened? And nobody was paying attention to what I was doing, but I, I, I found out that they had designed it wrong. It wasn’t, it looked to me like it was an inferior design. And I asked, is it okay if I can change things? And no problem with money, you know, you need ten hundred thousand dollars. No problem. And, and so we changed, I changed the experiment. Nobody knew what I was doing, but I found out what the cause was.

Wow, did they, did it end up. And then I went back to my, my supervisor and said, I think I found out the cause. And he said he didn’t believe it. But I gave him all the information. And then within 24 hours, they, they, they all agreed this is it. This is the reason. And so before I went back to school to finish my PhD, they said they wanted me to give a talk to four very important people. It included the, the general at the Pentagon who was in charge of our nuclear program. There are only four people at this meeting.

And anyway, I, I gave this talk to them and there’s only four people in this dark room. The guy had a, you know, the metals and all and yeah, yeah, more dark glasses. And even when we turned off the lights, it got really dark. He kept his dark glasses on. I felt like I was in a Woody Allen movie or something. But anyway, so that I left and I, and I, I was sworn to secrecy and I, it’s today, I still will not say anything about it to break my word. But I left and I thought, wow, I’m 22 years old and it looks like I have just increased the nation’s rate of producing hydrogen bombs.

Wow. Did you feel good about it? Did you feel good? Now that you look back on it, do you feel good about that or what do you think about that? Well, I thought it was the luckiest guy in the world. I mean, how did I get the chance to even get looking at that? Well, then about two years later, I was now working in Iowa state on my PhD. I was working in a place called the Institute for Atomic Research and the famous Ames Laboratory. And I was, I wanted to get married and I was getting married And I didn’t want to spend my time in, in Iowa City, in Iowa, which Ames IO nice, wonderful place, but pretty boring.

So I decided, wow, how about Los Alamos? So I went to Los Alamos on my honeymoon and spent three months there. And they, I, they had me in as a revisiting scientist because of the good stuff that had happened at Savannah River. And I, they had a problem with, they were the ones who were taking all these materials and trying to make really better and better hydrogen bombs, get more megatons. And they were having a couple of problems. And one problem they, they had a problem with plutonium research and they had built a facility and like, it’s just, it’s really similar to what happened before.

They, they, they had their scientists and their physicists put together something to try to get this information that had to do with the properties of plutonium in the microsecond that it would heat up, melt and then vaporize. They needed to know the properties. And they failed. And so this experiment that had been going on for two years was gathering dust. They had given up. And so when I got there, they assigned that to me and they said if, if you could make any progress on this by the time he leaves, it’ll be wonderful. Well, my first day there I started working on it and within three hours it looked at me like it was not a good experiment even though these supposed top people had done it.

And by 2:30 in the afternoon, I, I devised a better way to do it. And I, I just, I discovered why it was my first day there. I couldn’t believe that it wasn’t, you know, really good. And I, I couldn’t dig up, get my courage up to talk to the boss because I thought, well, maybe I’m naive, maybe I’m wrong, maybe this is stupid. I’ll be embarrassed. So finally at 4:30, I, I decided to go and see him and I told him I think I’ve solved the problem. And I put this big piece of paper on his desk and I spent some time and described it to him.

And he just sat there and he said, he was speechless. And he said, this is so simple. How did we miss this? Well, the next day I was in charge of the project that I spent three months doing plutonium experiments, having and having a lot of fun in beautiful Los Alamos. So I had. Why did they let you go? I mean, what did you do afterwards? I mean, someone like you is pretty priceless. So you, when they have 10,000 people at a facility and you come in in a day and figure something out. I had to go back to.

I had to go back get my PhD. I was right at the very end and I just gotten married and I’m so I did that and, and anyway that’s how I got started. I just know I didn’t think this was. I didn’t want to continue working on weapons. It bothered me. I thought is this really good for society? That’s why I asked you the question. I wanted to understand what you thought. So I. So when I finally got my PhD, I could have gone back to Los Alamos at a great salary and. And it’s a beautiful place.

I’d never been in a more beautiful place to work up on the mountains and really nice community of people. But no. So I finally decided of all my offers I wanted to. I was offered. I was 25 years old. I was. They gave me an offer. The University of Notre Dame gave me an offer to start up a new nuclear engineering department. Wow. Did you do it? Well, they gave me a contract to sign, but it turns out they didn’t. They. The people that designed this were like 90 year old priests at Notre Dame. And the amount of money they were offering me was not enough because I know I wanted to start a family and.

Yeah. Yeah. So I. I got a verbal offer from the director of engineering that was okay. Anyway, it turns out that it didn’t happen. But all my friends at Notre Dame thought, well, how could this happen? I mean, you weren’t that great a student. My grades weren’t that great. They told me that my. They said that my references. They said the references were so good. They were hard to believe. You know what though? I think that some of the best minds in history were not the best students because they can’t. They don’t think in a rigid set like the way universities expect you to.

You think creatively and differently and so you’re not really equipped for that. That’s been my. The pattern I’ve seen most CEOs top CEOs don’t. Aren’t the best students. I mean it’s just. That’s a common theme and so I’m not surprised of that. But I know that in big tech because that’s my background. I know that, you know, we. One person can replace 50 people. I mean a good engineer is. Is priceless. So I’m not surprised they offered you to run a department. I mean I just think that they would be falling all over to give you a job.

But. So then what did you end up Doing after that? Well, I. I had turned on all my other offers. I told my wife, hey, we’re going to live in South Bend, Indiana. And, and because of this conflict over whether that, I had two different offers. A verbal offer that was okay, and the one that. And anyway, it turns out that they, they sent me a letter saying. But what I did is I accepted the verbal offer when they sent me the written offer and they sent me a letter back saying, well, we decided to wait another year before we started the new department.

But I had turned down all my other offers except one. And that’s how I went up at Argonne National Laboratory. And they didn’t know anything about this history. They didn’t know I had had these kind of successes. Okay, it took a while. What did you do there? Well, they. I got. Since I knew a lot of nuclear. We were doing nuclear power, doing experiments on. Trying to rec. Cover the precious plutonium and uranium from. From power reactors for, you know, for the, for power for the, for the nation. So anyway, it took about a year, but they put me in charge of.

I had a. There was a group of about 30 people doing major experiments with plutonium, uranium and fission products. And they, they did appoint me a lead experimenter after I was there about a year. But then I decided I didn’t like that either because I realized these. There’s going to be a radioactive waste that’s going to be, you know, half lives of 10,000 years. And I didn’t think that was a good thing for society. I didn’t know what they were ever going to do with that. So I asked to change. They. They put me in charge of an electrochemistry group that was doing battery development.

After a year, I, I didn’t know anything about electrochemistry in the beginning, but after a year, about 12 months, I designed a new battery. And I developed the world’s most powerful battery I ever developed. And I got a. I got an award from the government for, for this, an IR100 award. One of the. Anyway, and, and Department of Energy and Atomic Energy Commission wanted to throw a whole lot of money at us. And it was actually the lithium battery. And it got a whole lot of attention, international attention. Did you make any money off of that or you just.

I got, I got the patent. Yeah. And I got $50. I got an edible letter saying thank you. It belonged to the government. I was working for the government. Everything I did belong to them. But I thought that was really great. But when I, I so went on this international thing I even went to R. And I was the first American to get into the Institute of Electrochemistry in Moscow. And, And I got to meet their battery people. And we, you know, I found out that their science was better than ours, by the way. But when I came back, they just, My bosses decided, well, we can’t let this guy.

This is going to be a big program. This is going to be huge. And they said, they decided, well, we can’t let this, this guy. He has no experience. So they brought in somebody from outside. And the first thing he did is he wanted to get rid of me, and he got rid of me. He was scared of the competition in your mind. But I was all excited about this. What a schmuck. Okay. Yeah. And then. Yeah. But anyway, it happened. A big disappointment. He put me finally into a tiny little office with another guy doing nothing.

And so I quit and went into something else. You’re the one that did. That’s so nobody knows. It became a big national program. And they did a history of it just about 10 years ago. And I got the history. They didn’t even mention my name. Oh, I’m. Yeah, that’s okay. That’s. I’m not. I’ve had some of that too, where I did some important things and my name’s not there either. It’s kind of like, okay, well, whatever. But. So then I got involved in energy and environmental sciences, and we, you know, we had the, the energy problem.

And I, I to spend a lot of time in Washington, and I got appointed as head of committees, trying to help decide where to put our money and solar energy or wind energy or electric vehicles. So I, I was having some kind of an impact. But I did learn one thing. I learned that if, if you want to do something really important, don’t have the government do it. And why would you say that? Because I got to know how, how, how the decisions were made of who to give the money to, because there are research just, you know, competing for, for the funding to build something really great like, like maybe an electric vehicle or maybe some special energy thing.

And I found out that it. When I got in charge of committees that were supposed to advise them and tell them where to send the money. And under be. I’d be working with other people and we would tell them who really has the best technology. No, I found once they even called me and I had to travel fast to Washington, and they took me to a place that was just being built, and the guy in charge said, I want you to know that this is who has to get the money. I think it was Senator Domenici was more powerful and he controlled the money.

And they happened to have an inferior technology for this particular project. So what happens is that the people who are head of the big committees in the Senate and, and, and in the, and they, it’s decided primarily on politics and, and it’s inefficient. And they don’t like to re, they don’t like to send money for research to develop something new. They like to spend all their money on studies because they don’t want to, they, they don’t want to have a failure. So they’ll organize a study that may. They’d not even be interested in. Spend a whole lot of money on it.

Well, they always have a success because they, they get a final paper, they get their deliverable. Well, they have, they spend a lot of money on studies of studies. They even had one on, they even had a study of the study of studies. I learned that, that when they have you do a study to justify maybe a 20 million dollar project that you may just work enslave on that and when you come in and you give it to them, they, they smile and say well that’s wonderful. And when you leave, they throw it in a wastebasket.

It’s just a lot of that going on. It’s already been determined that’s worse than sitting on a shelf and collecting dust the trash just right in the trash bin. And I got to, I got to. That’s even more cynical. I got to work with, with, with corporations and, and research, private research organizations and even universities. I mean they were doing really the good work. So if you’ve got something really important to do, although there’s some exceptions of course, maybe for sure. But I, I learned that the government, they just don’t take it seriously. I mean they’re just not real.

I think the, yeah. And the people that work there, many of them are very dedicated and they all say, I know that what everybody else is doing is not worth much and it’s not really doing much, but I’m different. I’m, I, I’m, you know, and that, that, that’s how they behave. But they’re wonderful people, they’re dedicated. But then if they want to work on something and some senator disagrees, they’ll be told they can’t do it. How crushing is that to their psyche? I mean you go, you spend your life getting an education and then now you are, you’re an expert and then they just, they just crush you.

Like that, not over and over. It’s frustrating. There are people who are truly dedicated to, want to help the country, but the ones that really advance are the ones that are trying to get higher and higher GS ratings and being, you know, have that kind of a success. But it’s, but that’s sort of irrelevant to what we’re, you know, my book and everything, but that was my beginning and I, I love research. I decided that I, I studied people who were great scientists and what I found was that most of them were. Had all of their successes when they were very young.

Einstein did his best work when he was 20, 21 and 22 years old. Why do you think that is? I think that’s pretty comm. Well, I, I think the, the real question is why do they fail afterwards? Einstein didn’t do anything worthwhile after he became famous. He became famous, was giving lectures and stuff, half one after the other. People I looked at who had gotten Nobel prizes, they, they, if they got successful and they got famous, well, they became administrators and their brain was no longer achieving. I think really good stuff I think can, look, can I throw you my feeling on it or my thoughts? I think that when you’re young, you’re.

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It’ll provide you a discount or you can go to sarah westall.com under shop. I think you’re absolutely right. And there are a few other factors too. One of them is that most of these people weren’t married when they were really young and so they didn’t have to have to be in charge of the family and do what that needed. But I think maybe the most important thing is that if you of our. If a person gets into a new field, one of the biggest problems with science is not what you. What you don’t understand is what you believe.

That isn’t right. That’s things that you believe that ain’t so. That’s right. The paradigm working in a, in a field for 15 or 20 years, they believe all this stuff and you need a fresh look and not. Not to blindly accept the mistakes that had been accepted. Well, and so it’s the young people and the people outside the field. You can be older outside a field and come up with a new invention in another field. That happens a lot. I found historical cases of people who at the age of 60, who were very successful, got into something completely different and made great advances and got a couple of.

Got Nobel prizes and just starting something fresh. I think it’s starting fresh without believing all of the. That’s the bitter thing. That’s the bigger thing. Yeah. That’s the paradigm changes. That’s a big deal. That’s kind of the crux of what my show is about, is getting to that. What is that? Because that’s where the magic is. Yeah. Don’t. Don’t let your best brains be polluted with success and money. Like I’ll call it the golden handcuffs. Let them continue to, to create and invent. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. You’re fascinating. Okay, so the. What is that quote where they keep playing.

You’re fascinating to talk to. Who said that about Donald Trump anyways? Made me think of that when I said that. I wouldn’t apply that to you, but in that way you’re fascinated to talk to it on that way. Okay, so you also have been working one of the top behavioral scientists in the world as far as understanding what motivates people for violent behavior or just behavior in general, but particularly I’m interested in. And I think a lot of people are. Why are people violent? I mean, we didn’t used to have a lot of mass shootings and I, I don’t know if statistically we have as much as the media makes it seem.

That we have. I did a, I did a mini documentary on it. It’s not as bad as is the media makes it seem, but it sure is a lot more than we used to have, which was none. And why is this occurring? You know, there’s always the theory of the MK Ultra and the frequency weapons and, and manipulation of people causing them. But you’ve done some deep research in this. What is you, what are your thoughts on that? I think I know why. I think I know why there are school shootings. Why. And I presented myself and a number of other researchers quite a, quite a few Years ago, maybe six we, we had looked at 50 most recent school shootings and, and we found something really interesting and, and a common thread in all of them.

And, and what I found was what, what we found and, and others had done more than I had at this. But what we found is that these were not violent kids. These were not people who, in grade school or high school who were thieving thieves or criminals of any kind of activity or hurting people. They were usually kind of goofy kids who didn’t fit in. Yeah. And what we found out was that in almost every case out of the 50, 42 or 43 of them basically developed anxiety or depression. They developed anxiety or depression and they started going on heavy duty medications mostly anti.

Antidepressants. Yep. And, and, and the science of, of people who develop that, if, if anybody has, if anybody has depression, their doctor and the doctor gives them Prozac or something or something. Now these things are very effective for a lot of people. But, but if you get one of these, there’s an insert there that are warning that some people, especially young males, may develop suicidal or homicidal tendencies. It’s right there. They know that this is something that can happen to some people. Well, I’ve done research on depression and we, and one thing I presented about six years ago with the American Nuclear American Psychiatric association was that depression is an umbrella term.

It’s not a single disease. It’s actually at least five completely different disorders with, with different symptoms and, and with, with different misbehaving neurotransmitters and, and one of these types, one of these, you know, maybe 10% of, of all violent people, their problem is that they have the genetic in inability to handle the medications. And so what we found was that 42 of them, like the, the Colorado massacre, these two young people who went in. Yeah, yeah. And what they did, we, we had all the information on that and we found that they, they, they were not successful but they never were a behavior problem.

They were just sort of odd, unhappy, just kind of goofy kids that were socially awkward. And those socially awkward kids usually end up being okay later. Maybe not. What happened is. And, and we now have the ability to do testing to, to identify people in advance who you should not. And, and, and I’m having real trouble. I’ve been presenting this and no one will believe me and had trouble with, with other part. This is only part of the behavior stuff. I, what I did is when, when, when I was about 30, 32, I decided I, I wanted to do something for society and I wanted.

And so what I decided was to get involved with criminal violence. There was a woman in my neighborhood in Naperville, Illinois who had shot and murdered senselessly in Juliet. And I, I wanted to know why this could happen. So I started studying behavior, studying psychiatry. And I happened to be president of the Argonne chess team. And we have 40,000, 4,000 scientists and all. And I got. Had a game with Staple Penitentiary and I brought my team in and we were all PhD scientist types. They beat us, they beat us. But when I played, the guy I played had just gotten off death row and we had a long conversation.

I, I won the game early and we, and I, I spent the next 18 years of my life working on a list he gave me of things they needed. I became a volunteer. Yeah, I had 125 people in my, in my secret group trying to help these people. The whole idea was crime prevention. These are the people most likely to commit a crime. And many of them wanted, did not ever want to go. They never want to go back to prison again. And many of them did not want to continue being a criminal or hurting people.

But I found that, that the prison experience tended to make them worse. So I had an ex offender program and, and we were secret. Nobody knew we existed and. But unfortunately my cover was blown when one day I was invited to a meeting at the Conrad Hilton and I, I got an award. I didn’t. I was, I was named the, the volunteer of the year for Metropolitan Chicago for prisoners. But I got to know, I got to know personally people who had done terrible things. But then as I got, I started developing a database, a chemistry database.

And eventually I got the biggest data and violent criminals I think anybody had. I had more than 800 people who were convicted murders in prison. And I got, and then I started doing forensics and I started getting invited to, to autopsies like one of the first ones with a McDonald’s massacre. You’re too young to know about this, but when was that? What year was that? James Oliver Schuberty. I think it was 1981. He went into a McDonald’s and shot and killed 23 people. And that was a big, shocking, horrible thing. And I got invited to the autopsy because I had a lot of information on chemistry related to violence.

And we found. I found out that he. In fact, I studied. I studied, you know, I studied some of his body samples and found out that he had extraordinary high levels of cadmium. Well, they, I, I sent that back to the coroner in San Diego, and they got back to me and said, well, how could this be? If a person had this much cadmium, why aren’t they dead? To be. It would affect their kidneys. Well, he called me back a little later and said, I want you to know. We found out that he. Two, Two weeks before the crime, he showed up at an emergency room of a hospital with kidney failure.

So that made new. It was the only thing they found abnormal about the guy. It made international news. So then I started getting invited to every terrible crime and even Scotland Yard, I assisted their analysis of a mass killer. And I was. I was connected with the. I was at a group called the serial killers group that included the FBI, people, scientists trying to understand what serial killing is. And I got to know. I, I knew about the Unabomber before the FBI did. How did you know about the Unabomber before the FBI? Because the family suspected that.

That he was a Unabomber, but they didn’t want him. They weren’t sure. And I, I got involved that. I got involved with that. And when, and when they, when they finally agreed to go out and tell the FBI with promises that they would be very careful and not do any, you know, check it out. First they just went in and arrested the guy. And so then they were. The family asked me if. If I could. If I had any recommendations. And I, I urged them to get a psychiatrist early because what, what, what. The prosecution wants to execute them, of course, for something as horrible as what this guy did.

And. But I knew what they do, what they, what they do is they, they. They give them psychiatric care, take a person who is Looney Tunes and give them a medication, and then they become more normal. And then they bring in their experts who say, well, he’s not really insane. Ah, yeah. So I, I, so I, the family, I urged them that I was going to go with a top country. One of the country’s top psychiatrists. And we got actually car fare to, I mean airplane flights to Montana. And our goal was to evaluate him and see what kind of a disorder he had and then recommend the America’s greatest expert to go and be his on that specific disorder before they fix it in prison.

But he decided the family was all for this. And his family was wonderful, by the way, especially his brother. And anyway, but he wasn’t, he refused to do it. He refused to have anything to do with the family. And then that was part of his psychosis. And so that was. Psychosis got in the way of actually the treatment. So that was that. But I’ve been involved with a lot of cases. I, I had, I was on Charles Banson’s visiting list and we two of us were to go and see him before he was executed, before he died.

Did you see him? And I got involved with. I got involved with. But hold on, before you move on to Charlie off a tree, remember what you’re going to talk about. That Manson. Did you get a chance to talk to him and see him? I was on his visiting list along with Professor Joel Norris and my plane was late and I missed it. And so Joel told me what happened and it was really a strange meeting. He had agreed to have us take chemical samples so I could analyze his chemistry. Did you. Were you able to.

Yeah. So what was his chemistry like? Absolutely classic, what I call a sociopathic pattern. I found that sociopaths have very abnormal chemistry that they’re born with. And he, he. I got to know him enough that, that I know, I know why he thought he was the way he was. And that can be. You can solve that, right? I mean, if we know what the pattern is, then we can counteract it. That’s what, that’s one thing I learned in this study on bipolar. After studying for 10 years studying all this great new information on neuroscience and behavior and all that I discovered that you can identify.

We’re going to be able rather quickly, I think within. It’s moving so fast. The progress is so fast, especially in genetics. We are going to be able to take a newborn baby or a young child and we will be able to identify people who have vulnerabilities, who. And you can keep that from happening? I found out we can. And what happens. The biggest problems are the late onset disorders. Late onset, where a person might be okay and then become schizophrenic when they’re 20 or bipolar or get depressed or something or, or. And. But why is that.

Yeah, why is that harder? What I discovered and what’s in the book is that these people have a genetic predisposition for and which is basically a weakness in a team of genes that enable maybe in this case neurotransmission. If something goes wrong with these maybe 1500 genes that collaborate to enable that if enough of them are mutated, they will have a tendency for this, but it’s not enough for it to appear when they’re children or even adolescence. And the reason is that these people also have a tendency for DNA damage. Rapid, relentless DNA damage that creates new mutations and eventually you get to the point where the, the, the, the weakness gets magnified and then that’s when it happens because it’s not a, it’s not a significant enough of a percentage at first, and then it grows because now is a chance that it’s the, the, the damage, the DNA damage that’s causing it.

With, with the other aspect. Now anybody that has that DNA damage, rapid DMA damage could have a multitude of other things that could happen. It they do. And, and so when I discovered that the, the, that this happened in this particular case to be ion channel genes, there are 400 ion channel genes that collaborate to allow your brain to function. They collaborate all of that. And what I, what I did is I, I found that it was not just that, but they also had a genetic tendency, two genetic impairments. The other one was accelerated DNA damage that would create new impairments with time.

And so that’s a key thing for a lot of issues. But what you just, it is, you know, cancer, everything. So, so when, so when I, and realized this, I said, well, wait a second, if, if a person’s DNA causes them to have accelerated DNA damage, they, they should be more prone to cancer. Heart disease, kidney disease. So I, I checked that out and it is exactly the truth. Bipolar people make sense. They’re, they, they, they have terrible health. They have three times the incidence of dying of heart disease, higher Cancer incidence, higher, higher. Kidney disease, higher everything and in life expectancy, less than the population.

Okay, so how do we, how do we deal with accelerated DNA damage? That’s what we can fix. How, that’s what we can fix. So what causes the damage? It’s free radical assault, free radicals. Begins the day we’re more born. It’s why we age. It’s why people get older. Their DNA is being damaged and, and the, the 80000 proteins that your DNA orchestrates become, they’ve become less capable. And that’s why we get older. So we now, we’re, we’re now learning more about These assaultive free radicals, some of them come from, from, from your mitochondria and from your immune function function.

You can’t go into a perfect environment. You’re going to have to deal with this. We also have. Whoops, I don’t want that. I apologize for that. We also have genes that protect us against this, but some people don’t have that protection working on. They might have SNP mutations in the protectors. So we’re now finding that if you look at people with bipolar disorders, schizophrenia or other major problems, including dementia, they have extraordinary overload of oxidative stress, of free radical assault. And so I have Excel. This is accelerating. The, the problem is accelerating. And, and now the looking might.

Now in my book, I looked at now what can we do about this now that we know that we have these misbehaviors. So I first looked at things like gene editing and I found that that’s not going to work. At least the problem is that there are so many genes that are. That, that it’s a combination of genes. So if you got 400, it’s too many possibly misbehaving genes. What combination is it? And, and so, but what we can do is we can stop it in its tracks and we can, we can, we, we now can do.

There are lab tests that we started doing, I’ve been doing lately, and others that we can identify people whose DNA is being assaulted rapidly and damaged. We know which, which part of the DNA called guanine. It’s one of the nucleotides and that’s the most vulnerable ones. Well, it actually, the damaged guanine shows up on your bloodstream. Wow. You can take a blood test so we can measure the rate at which your, your DNA is being assaulted. So we could take a, a newborn or a young child and we, and the, the dn. The, the, the DNA research, the genetics research is, is zooming so fast.

Soon we’re going to know what every single gene does and what every collaborating gene team does. We’ll be able to know who’s prone to cancer and what kind of cancer. We’ll know that in advance. We’ll know who is prone to heart disease, who is prone to kidney disease, who’s likely to. So what are, what are the solutions are. They’re all there. It’s all that information is hidden in your DNA and it’s about to be revealed. It’s really fascinating. Okay, so what, what is the solution to slow down the destruction of your DNA? What I know it’s the free radical Damage.

Did you in your book, do you have some solutions that you lay out? Oh, yeah. Well, it comes right out of that. I’m focusing mainly on bipolar, but I’ve got a section at the end called A Look at the Future Future. And I describe this future that’s available for everything and, and why we’re. Prevention is going to be the answer. If we can, that’s certain. It’s always prevention. So if we can identify somebody who has the, the problem, the, the problem that gives them a really high tendency for bipolar. It, the, the, the median age of onset is 25 years.

So we have, even though they have this, this, this tendency, this predisposition at birth takes 25 years of very advanced, powerful, accelerated DNA damage. Well, DNA, we can, we can, we can we have antioxidant therapies that can handle this. Now I thought at first, well, wow, we could do glutathione and zinc and catalase. We know we have an armory of antioxidants that we give the patients who have this problem. But I discovered that the real problem, looking at the recent research are free radicals that these things don’t touch. And it’s called superoxide and superoxide. And, and we, we.

So now it’s pretty clear how we could target with special advanced antioxidant therapies. We could take somebody who has a predisposition, predisposition for cancer. Cancer. If we can find out what their problems are, we, we can, we can slow down this damage. But probably the most exciting thing is that, I mean, the world is going to soon learn that, that, that, that health care, that the next breakthrough in healthcare is going to be protecting our DNA. It’s why we age. It’s why things get worse with time and making sure our telomeres don’t shrink and people are going to stay young longer.

That’s good. That’s going to get everybody excited. And I’d like to say we don’t want to feel like crap as we age. I, I mean people are against transhumanism. Like, well, I don’t want to feel like crap as we age. I, I’m quite certain that we will within maybe only 10 or 15 years. These things are advancing so fast. We have to find all this information hidden in our precious DNA. And everybody, of course, is somewhat unique and different. But what’s going to happen is that people will be seeing great athletes who are so great when they’re 50 or 60.

We’re going to have population that the, an average person can have a happy you know, really solid life past the age of 100. I’m sure that’s going to happen. Wow. Of course I could be wrong, but I’m going to have to have you back. You’re, you’re, you’re, you are very fascinating. I want to have some solutions that we can offer people that I think I could mention. Bipolar. Bipolar is something that is nobody’s fault. If you’ve got a friend who’s bipolar, I think you should go and give them a hug or her a hug. And just because what’s happened to them is so unfair.

It can happen to anyone. Equal number of females and males get it. Whether you’re rich or you’re poor, whether you’re brilliant or not or whether you’re born in Central Africa or whatever. Everybody. Opportunity disease it is. And, and, and it’s nobody’s fault. And people that get this are, they’re, they’re. I, I personally saw more than 1500 cases. The reason I wrote this book was I was frustrated because I didn’t know how to help them because the disease is a mystery. Nobody un. When I got started, nobody had. Knows the clue. Those, they don’t know the cause.

They don’t know why people cycle between mania and depression. That’s been called the holy grail of bipolar. Scientists have been trying. Nobody knows or knew. And there’s, and, and so that was my motivation and as the more I got into got really fascinating and what I learned by. I think I’m probably the first person, first person scientists that ever devoted years to studying all the advances in epigenetics, neuroscience and genetics. And the answers are all there. It’s just, I don’t think anybody else has ever done this. I’ve spent so much time trying to put all that together and it seems to be the future of humanity is pretty exciting if we can avoid killing each other and having wars.

Yeah, I know we can keep our health healthy, but we’re going to kill each other off with wars. I think we’re maturing. I think the Internet, the open communication, we have to work to keep this open because they’re censoring people like you and me who are just trying to come up with solutions and make the world a better place. And if they can keep that open, then I think we can mature as a society. Because. Because people don’t want to kill your suppliers and the people you collaborate with. No, if we can collaborate with people all over the world, in China or in Middle east, we don’t want to kill the people we work with.

It’s important that we keep it doesn’t make any sense to do it and it’s not in our own interest however people do it. You don’t want to bomb your story. That’s another story. Okay, well you are so where can they get your book? What’s the name of your book? The book is the Essence of Bipolar Disorder and it’s Beyond Bipolar. I mean this is a beyond you’ve already laid out. This is much beyond that. And so people who want to see kind of essence of something beyond that but this is an important aspect. You take one thing to illustrate something much larger.

I am so fascinated. Thank you so much for joining the program. You are a gem. I Wish you were 20 again. So you had a lifetime with what you know now. Now I wish you were 20. So thank you so much for joining the program. Well I enjoyed talking with you.
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