Doctors Say This Boy Should Not Be Able to Do ThisBut He Can

➡ Katie Asher, mother of a neurologically injured autistic son, Hugh Houston, shares her family’s journey in her new book, “The Book of Heaven”. Hugh, who has extraordinary abilities due to his condition, provides firsthand accounts of his experiences, which have been scientifically examined for their implications on neuroscience, consciousness, and faith. Katie’s story, which has gained significant attention, offers hope and a new perspective on understanding the world. She also discusses her work with Dr. Diane Powell Hennessy, who explains how the brain filters out 96% of incoming information, a process Hugh’s brain doesn’t follow, leading to his unique abilities.
➡ The text discusses a person’s adverse reaction to a vaccine, which triggered an autoimmune condition called Thrombocytopenia purpura. This caused the person’s body to destroy its own blood platelets, leading to internal bleeding. The text suggests that the medical community is not well-equipped to recognize or diagnose such reactions to vaccines. It also explains how aluminum, used as an adjuvant in vaccines, can cause a chain reaction in the body, leading to a cytokine storm and potential damage to the brain. The text further discusses the impact of such reactions on a child’s development, suggesting that inflammation can halt the brain’s normal pruning process, affecting motor development and sensory integration. However, it also suggests that this could potentially lead to enhanced sensory abilities.
➡ This text discusses the power of thoughts, suggesting they are a form of energy that can transform into matter and shape our experiences. It emphasizes the need to control our thoughts, shifting from fear and doubt to hope and faith. The text also shares a personal story of a mother with a severely autistic son, who, despite his condition, was able to express his love for her, demonstrating the infinite possibilities of the mind. The story encourages us to nurture ourselves and others, and to believe in miracles.
➡ A mother discovered her son’s extraordinary abilities when he began to communicate through a letter board at the age of 21. Despite never being formally educated, he demonstrated a vast knowledge, even spelling out the Declaration of Independence. He claimed to hear thoughts and proved it by answering questions she asked in her mind. This led to a journey of understanding his unique experiences, including his ability to see events before they happen and describe biblical events as if he witnessed them firsthand.
➡ The text discusses the speaker’s exploration of spirituality and religion, particularly focusing on the Bible and its teachings. The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding the Bible’s original context and the Jewish traditions it was based on. They also discuss the limitations of language in conveying spiritual experiences and truths, using their son’s unique sensory experiences as an example. The speaker concludes by highlighting the importance of love and kindness, as taught by Christ, in our daily lives.
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➡ The text discusses the importance of understanding and accepting the spiritual realm, and not dismissing it as either entirely good or bad. It emphasizes the need for discernment in recognizing what is good and bad in the spiritual realm, and encourages people to root themselves in God’s word for guidance. The text also highlights the challenges faced in getting this viewpoint accepted due to the dominance of reason and materialism in our culture. Lastly, it mentions a book called ‘The Book of Heaven’ that provides scriptural references to spiritual abilities, aiming to soften people’s skepticism towards the spiritual realm.
➡ The text discusses the author’s struggle with faith and doubt, particularly questioning how a good God could allow suffering. It emphasizes the importance of the journey of understanding, including questioning and searching for truth. The author also highlights the need to approach ancient texts with context and grace, even when we don’t fully understand or agree with them. Lastly, the author stresses the importance of love and kindness, as they believe everyone is made in the image of God.

And I think one of the most profound things about my son, yes, he can see in time. He can see things before they happen. He can, like he said, the angels open windows in time. He’s seen the gear. He explained about the gears in Heaven of time and how they work. He, he described passages out of the Bible as somebody who was witnessing them, not as someone who had learned a passage and then was reciting it. He literally was giving me a firsthand account of these experiences. Welcome to business Game changers in the Sunday Night Thrive Hour.

I have another amazing conversation today with Katie Asher, and she has a new book out called the Book of Heaven, a story of hope for the outcast, the broken, and those who lost faith. And it’s a memoir co written by her and her son, who is severely neurologically injured autistic son Hugh Houston. And it says what began as a family struggle with disability has become one of the most talked about and scientifically examined cases at the intersection of neuroscience, consciousness and faith. And she was on a podcast on Christmas that was the number one podcast in the world.

It bypassed Joe Rogan. It bypassed everything that day. And people are hungry for the, for this type of information. She has been working with Diane, Dr. Diane Powell Hennessy, who has been on my show with the telepathy tapes and the story of her son and his abilities. And she explained scientifically how our brain automatically and our body automatically weeds out because we have so many things that are coming into us, we wouldn’t be able to handle it. And so we automatically weed out 96% of what’s coming at us. And so we only get about 4%. He doesn’t have that ability.

He gets it all. And because of that, he has these extraordinary abilities. And she didn’t realize this until he was older and he was like, locked into this, this body that didn’t have motor abilities. He couldn’t speak. And she’s going to explain the whole story and then some of his profound abilities and how it’s profoundly changed her life and also is changing many others, too, as she’s sharing her story. It is really incredible. I hope you stick to this whole thing and I hope you share it with others who are looking for stories of hope and hopefully it softens people’s hard stance in all different ways.

I mean, I’m really trying to expose people to different ways of thinking and different stories and opening up your curiosity to look for what the truth is, maybe outside of what you maybe have been historically, historically trained to think. Because, you know, if we’re only seeing 4% and our brain can only perceive 4%. There’s a lot more out there for us to understand. And and so I will have the link below of where you can learn more about her and where you can also purchase the book. It’s on audio and on written form. Okay, before we get into that, I want to remind you that these peptides that I’ve been sharing, it looks like that some of these are not going to be available for too much longer and one of them will probably be ready.

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It was the number one podcast in the country, maybe world on Christmas, because people are hungry for this kind of information. Your son, Houston, is an amazing little guy. I don’t know if he’s little anymore. Can you. He’s not a little, but he was little at one point in my. It share his story a little bit. Just kind of give us an overview and then we’re going to get really into it. I think people are going to be just absolutely this. Just a hopeful story. Yes. So Houston is my second of five children, and he was neurologically injured at 8 months old by vaccines.

And it was severe. And at the time, we didn’t know how severe that damage was going to be or what that meant because he was only 8 months old. How do you know? VA vaccines just to. Just so people understand because everybody pushes back hard. But it happened like the day he got him right, it was a couple of days later, he started breaking out in these little red freckles. And I was like, what is that? That’s really strange. And, you know, I’m like, trying new food. You know how you were like, do one food at a time.

So I thought, okay, maybe he doesn’t. His body doesn’t like carrots or whatever it was at the time. And the next day there were more. And that was a Friday. And I still was trying because I didn’t want to be an overreactive mother. I was really. I kind of prided myself, thought he had a rash. I mean, whatever. The next morning, it was a Saturday morning, I went in and I went to pick him up out of his crib, and he was literally from head to toe covered in these red freckles. And I was like, okay, yeah, I have to call.

So I called the doctor and they said, bring him in immediately. I did. I even had a little gathering that morning that I had to cancel like that second because they were like, immediately bring him in. And once I. Once the doctor saw him, he left the room. He came back in the room and he said, I’ve already had him admitted to Arnold Palmer hospital. Would you like an ambulance? And I asked why and they wouldn’t tell me. They said we need to run test. When we got there, we went straight to the hospital. A hematologist met us and said, your son either has leukemia or immune thrombocytopenic purpura.

I didn’t know what that other long words was and I knew what leukemia was and I didn’t want that. And they took him for these tests, they brought him back. And she said, this is immune thrombocytopenic purpura. This is a vaccine injury. So she told you straight out, this is a vaccine injury. It was 1997. So this is before the big push against it. And whenever I, they were more open what you’re saying they were more willing to tell you what it really was then and now they can’t. That’s correct. Okay, yes. And, but I will say there was no informed consent.

No one told me about a vaccine court. No one told me what was going to happen. No one told me anything at all. Nothing. I, you know, we did the treatments which was ivig, gamma globulin, and they still didn’t, we didn’t have any indication of what the long term effects were going to be. I just thought we have to keep. And so what people need to know. Immune, immune. Thrombocytopenia purpura is an autoimmune condition and the vaccines triggered it. But basically his body was killing itself. It was killing off his blood platelets. He was bleeding to death internally.

This is just one autoimmune reaction of many that he continued to have. But we didn’t know that things are happening inside the body. You don’t know that these things are happening. And the medical community is not equipped to diagnose or recognize what these symptoms are. They haven’t been taught and trained in to how to recognize reactions to vaccines. So they view everything in terms of behavior. Well, they also are taught that it doesn’t. Vaccines don’t cause it. And if something like this does happen, it’s a coincidence. And it’s not because of the vaccines that I know for a fact.

And they view it in terms of either behavior or intelligence. So if something is not right, then they immediately are like, oh, well then there’s something wrong with them. There’s a genetic reason, there’s a this reason never that we put a neurotoxin in your child that doesn’t belong there and the body is destroying itself because That’s a neurotoxin, and it’s having a reaction to the neurotoxin. They want to, of course, operate with impunity. And the best way to operate with impunity is to deny. That’s right. And to teach all, everyone in the field that it’s not possible and to make you think that you’re crazy.

If you’re crazy, it’s not possible. Yeah. But for those who don’t know, I can very quickly explain it. Aluminum is a neurotoxin. They use an aluminum adjuvant in the vaccines. This vaccine adjuvant has. So aluminum hydroxide has. Well, Aluminum itself has 13 electrons in the valent, and so that means it has three electrons in the valence shell. Aluminum hydroxide, the nanoparticle adjuvant that they add has three electrons in the balance shell. That’s why they use it. What people need to understand is that makes it highly electronegative. A normal valence shell that’s full, that’s stable has two, has four pairs, so eight.

So three is highly electronegative. And it’s trying to fill that shell. That’s why they use it to stimulate the immune system because they’re using an attenuated virus. That activity, so it’s stealing electrons. Well, then those cells steal electrons. Then those cells still electrons. In one person, they can reach homeostasis quickly. And in another person, it can go off like an atomic bomb, Just chain reaction after chain reaction. It’s kind of like certain, certain people are allergic to peanuts and others aren’t. I mean, it’s just your son was a, was one that was affected by this. Well, it’s not even so much you’re prone to it.

You’re not prone to it. It’s that they can’t control that cellular reaction. It just. That’s just a cellular reaction that, you know, in the same person they could get a vaccine. And it not have that reaction because it. Because different cells reacted differently. You can’t control the cellular reaction. That’s the problem. That’s the reason why they can’t make them safe is because they have no mechanism to control that reaction. So that basically causes a cytokine storm. And their microfascias, which are mobile immune cells that can attach to these alumin, bypass the blood brain barrier and go into the brain where they stay.

They cannot be taken out. These cytokine storms of interleukin 6 go off like a bomb in the entire body, which is what happened to my son. And one of the very first things they do is they attack the myelination, the myelin on the neural pathways in the brain. I actually have photographs of MRIs of children who are having these cytokine storms where you can actually see the white spots in their brain where the auto. The autoimmune activity is literally stripping away the myelin. Basically, this is what causes regression when parents are like, he regressed. That’s because the myelin sheath on the neural motor pathways was eaten away.

Gee, I think they have some. I think they have some ways to start to. They’ve made huge progress, not in the mainstream medicine, but in the, you know, the. The edge of science to cut down that cytochem storm. They can shut that down, but it’s only a few scientists and they’re ignoring them pretty much. Well, I think that’s happening. That’s only part of the problem. First of all, that cellular activity is everywhere. The aluminum is still in the brain. That causes encephalopathy. The. This is what people need to understand about development. When you’re a baby, all of us, this is 100% all of us.

You have millions and millions of these sensory synapses, and it’s for you to absorb the environment and for you to learn where you are in relationship to your body and where your body is in relationship to the environment. That’s critical to establishing, essentially, like your gps, like, here I am. This is where I. Okay, here’s front, here’s back, here’s up, here’s down. That’s all required to be able to operate and develop any motor. Motor is what gives us the capacity to operate our vessel, our body. But who we are is actually a spirit. That’s what’s inside us.

The body is the vessel. The motor is how we operate it. The vestibular system is the body’s gps. And it takes in all these millions and millions of sensory synapses, information to know where it is. And this is like where you see babies when they’re first born. It’s so cute. And you pick them up and they go like that, you know, and it’s because they still haven’t developed that vestibular system. Like, they still don’t know where they are in space. So that is an alert reflex. And that once you, of course, develop that, then you’re. You’re fine.

You’re like, pick me up, you know? Yeah, yeah. Then they love it. Then they don’t want to be put down. And so then the next part is the proprioceptive, the vestibular has to. Has to work for the proprioceptive system to work, which is, how much force do I use? So once that happens, then the baby begins to do some really basic things like lift its head up, hold its head. Right. And then kind of push up on their belly. Well, these are the foundations of all motor. You can’t operate a vehicle or write or speak if you haven’t laid the foundation of any of the other motor systems.

So that’s what this is all about. Then you’ve got hand to mouth. Right. That’s one of the big ones. So all of this is happening in those first few months of life. Well, the myelin. Whenever the myelin gets attacked, as you’re. I should say, as you’re developing, all these neuromotor pathways are. They’re integrating in with sensory. And then the neural motor pathways are connecting. That’s how that works. Whenever you begin to. And this is normal development, when you begin to go through this development, the brain begins to prune these sensory synapses. And that’s really important because if we were taking in all the sensory that’s out there, it would be very difficult to integrate all of that sensory with our motor.

Yep. And so that’s actually very important in development. But what the brain will not do when it’s inflamed is prune itself so that part of the development stops. The brain stops pruning. And because it stops pruning, it stops integrating the motor with the pruned sensory synapses. That’s why their motor development stops. But they’re still taking in all of that massive amount of sensory input. And that’s what basically creates this disconnect between the brain wanting to communicate a message to the body and not being able to do so. It’s because literally the motor is not there. Well, but, but him getting the brain not pruning, do you think that has something to do with his extra abilities? The fact that he’s getting all of these sensories and he’s.

We don’t get. Okay. Which is incredible. So he’s getting all these sensory things and we are pruning it and he’s not. And then that turned it. That developed him differently and wonderfully. Right. So beautifully. Just incredible. And it’s a. It’s interesting how mothers whose kids have this damage, a lot of them, and fathers too, parents who have this end up learning more about this than they ever thought they would. I mean, you just, you go, I could see, if this happened to my kid, I’d probably know More than anybody, you know, I mean, I would just really have dug into it and I can see how much passion it was for you because you really, really understand the science of this.

I do. Because it was something that you loved so much, got affected so. But it changed him in a way that is profound. Can you share what this extra sensory, this. What it did and how he’s different? So what people need to recognize is that everything is energy. Literally everything. There is nothing that is not energy. Matter is energy. In fact, that’s actually what matter is. Basically the slowest and most densest form of energy. But everything is energy, the imagery, everything is frequency, right? Yeah, that’s exactly right. And so E equals MC squared is means that energy and matter are the same thing, just measured in different ways.

So what that also means is that our thoughts are energy and our thoughts are actually the source of matter. And that’s wild and incredible and infinite in its implications. So our thoughts are matter, just not as dense. And if you have dense thoughts, like, then it turns into matter kind of, right? Basically, yes. So, for example, thought is. So if thought is energy, which it is, it basically has to abide by the same laws of energy that all energy abides by. And the very first is that energy is neither created or destroyed, it’s only transferred. That’s the law of conservation.

So if I have a thought that means it transfers to something, it’s not just goes away and vanishes, it’s actually becoming something. Thoughts become things, they become matter, they become our experience. And whenever we recognize this infinite power in that, in our thoughts, well, the very first realization you have is, oh my goodness, my thoughts aren’t very good. I need to start controlling them. I’m consumed with fear, I’m consumed with doubt. I’m consumed with negativity instead of hope and faith, faith and love. And that’s where our thoughts should be. And this is where, like having the mind of Christ, having like a mindset that’s fully and completely believing God as opposed to doubting God, and only believing what we see and not what is possible.

That’s the shift that has to happen. But back, back to thoughts. We with our sensory system, with our pruned sensory network, can only experience 4% of the actual energy around us. Only 4%. That means there’s another 96% out there that exist, but we don’t have access to it. So we’re making determinations and judgments about what’s possible only with 4% of the information. What happened with my son is that he still has access to all of this other information. And so his imagination and his capacity to believe is far greater. And that’s the miracle is that all things are possible.

And these non speakers are showing us just how true that is. Well, how does he show you that? And what kind of messages is he giving to you? So the first thing that happened was Houston spent. Obviously we had the injury and it was the worst kind of severe autism with eloping, nakedness, screaming, not sleeping, all these bizarre behaviors, horrific bowel issues, fecal sneering, just the worst of the worst. He was hit by a truck. I mean he was constantly near drowning, running away, just horrific. And that’s all I had to judge was that was what I could see.

I had no other information. And he spent 21 years trapped in his body like that with just chaos ruling everything. He was denied every education, every opportunity, not because anyone was trying to deny him, but we didn’t think he understood any anything more. And the first shift in our life was when he was 17 and I had. I was actually taking this yoga certification class because I was working. I was a single mom at that point, working three jobs, trying to make ends meet. And Houston’s my second of five children, so it was a lot. My gosh, yes.

And. And we had to give this intention in our yoga class. And I was like, this is so stupid, you know, nobody like. And I was also very depressed and I was despairing and I thought it’s just ridiculous. You were overwhelmed. And so I gave my little stupid vague intention and then the truth came out of my mouth and I also knew that no one really wants to hear my sad story. Yeah, people don’t care. And that’s just the sad reality. I don’t know, not everybody doesn’t care. But everybody’s so preoccupied with their own problems that it’s hard for them to care for others.

Which is kind of is an issue we have. We have to be able to be self. Our souls have to be in red. That’s part of this thrive thing is we need to enrich ourselves so that we can enrich the people around us. And we can start to trickling this out because I think there’s also a message of just you’re supposed to handle your own problems. Those your problems are yours to deal with. They’re not mine to deal with, they’re yours, they’re your responsibility. And so people can go, aw, that’s nice, but then I don’t want any responsibility.

And if it’s too, if it’s too hard. That makes me feel something that makes me uncomfortable and I don’t want to feel for other people. And it’s, that’s the issue that I see more is that people not wanting to feel for others and that’s a lack of empathy and it’s, it is a problem. It’s the exact opposite of the nature of God and we really need to be getting back to his nature, not our nature. A quick break to share with you this wonderful product called Masterpiece. It is proven to taking out graphene oxide, aluminums, heavy metals, microplastics.

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And they challenged me and they were like, well, why would you say that? And they said good had just as much chance of happening as bad. And if you have at this point read my story, you would understand why I said, I thought that was a ridiculous statement. And I said, I said, I know all about belief. You believe what you’ve experienced. That’s what I’ve experienced. Why would I believe anything else? Yeah, and, and so they, they taught me about thoughts. Who is that? These yoga instructors. Okay. And they said, imagine, okay, look at a table or a chair because you think those things are real, right? Like the table and the chair.

That’s what’s real. And then you ask yourself, what was the table or the chair before it was a table or a chair? And most people say, oh, it was wood or metal. They’ll go to the raw material that it was made from. But the real answer is, it was a thought, an idea. And then the second question was, if no one had ever had that thought of that table or that chair, would it exist? And it wouldn’t. And this was a profound thought for me, and it really shifted something in my heart. And it was. For me, it was just the chance that maybe something good could happen.

And this is where the profound begins. That was on a Saturday. That Wednesday night, I came home from one of my three jobs, waiting tables at a pizzeria. Really glamorous life I’m living. And that’s okay. I mean, everybody, I think that one of the most important lessons is that no job is beneath another. We really got to get past that. But keep going. Yes. And I absolutely agree with you. It just wasn’t where I thought my life was going to go, for sure. And so I would lay down on the couch. I was utterly exhausted. And Houston came downstairs, and he sat at my feet.

He was 17 years old, and for those who know severe autism, this doesn’t happen. They don’t sit still. And yet here was my son, sitting still, not flapping his hands, jumping up and down, making booming noises, reciting Disney phrases, you know, ad nauseam. He was just perfectly still. And I was so exhausted, I couldn’t even acknowledge it. And he suddenly leaned over and reached and tugged at the blanket very intentionally, just like you would to get someone’s attention. And he spoke, and he said, mama. And I opened my eyes, and he was looking directly into my eyes for the first time since he was an infant.

And he said, I love you. And when you’ve waited 17 years to hear your child say, I love you, Mama, I love you, that’s a miracle. And so I chose to believe. I chose to believe in a miracle at that moment. And the miracle came five years later. And that miracle came with a letter board. And it’s really pretty simple. It’s 26 letters. This is not the one we started on. This is more advanced. But we began to coach his motor to begin to point reliably to letters so he could spell out what he wanted to say.

And the very first thing he ever independently communicated was an answer to the question, if you could put any slogan on a T shirt, what would it be? And he spelled out, I’m in here. Oh. And he was 21. And that was the beginning of me discovering who my son was and what his heart was all about. And as he began explaining himself, like, we were doing all these lessons, and I couldn’t believe how much he knew, because, remember, he’s never been taught anything. He’s been deprived of everything, and yet he knew everything. I was asking, like.

Like, where’s this information? Well, he was getting sense senses that we weren’t getting. So he had more than us. Yeah. Well, then he starts reciting out, or not reciting, but spelling out the Declaration of Independence. And I’m like, okay, where? How I am. Like, I just have no concept of how this much information could be in his mind. And finally it gets to the point, because it’s just this overload of information. I said, how? How do you know so much? And this is the funny question I asked. I said, do you just have really good hearing? Hysterical.

Because that’s an understatement. And that’s when he said, I can hear thoughts. And of course, I thought, impossible. And I asked him, are you lying? Which, I mean, that was just horrible on my part. And he said, you don’t get the kind of gifts I have if you lie. Wow. And that. So then I start testing him, right? I’m testing him over and over. Not only did he get every single thing that I asked him, you know, correct. 100, that I’m testing him with just with thoughts. Like, okay, I have this thought, what is it? You know? Then I start speaking to him in my mind without using any words at all.

And he starts answering the questions out on the letterboard without me ever speaking. Zero words being uttered by anyone. That was, of course, the tip of the tippest iceberg. I had no idea the expanse of the other gifts that he would have. And that began the journey where I began to find out exactly what he was experiencing, how much he did actually know, what was going on with his neurology in his body as well. And this led to just an experience that was so profound of me, understanding that metaphysical world that’s all around us, that 96% that we can’t perceive but is still there.

And I think one of the most profound things about my son, yes, he can see in time. He can see things before they happen. He can. Like he said, the angels open windows in time. He’s seen the gear. He explained about the gears in heaven of time and how they work. He. He described passages out of the Bible as somebody who was witnessing them, not as someone who had learned A passage and then was reciting it. He literally was giving me a firsthand account of these experiences. Wow. Okay, so now you got to give some examples because this is pretty incredible.

Yes, well, one was whenever he. So it’s really funny. So this is right after he had. I. Well, I had been in a horrible car accident. And before the car accident, obviously I didn’t know I was going to have a car accident that day. And I asked him because I was running late. I said, do you have anything you want to say to me? And he spelled out all the angels do is talk about you. And I said, I literally said, I don’t have time for this. And ran out the door because I was running late.

I was like, no, I’m sorry, I don’t have time for anything supernatural or, or even love. Good grief, I’ve got to get to work. And I was hit within between 90 seconds and three minutes. I was hit head on by a car, hit a second, rolled several times and literally survived with very little. I mean, I woke up like I landed my, my hands on the asphalt and I’ve got Jeep imprinted on my arm. But I’m okay. Genuinely. The car is a disaster. My daughter, they, you know, contact my daughter. They. She’s rushing to the hospital.

Houston’s completely fine. He’s like, just chill as can be. And she’s freaking out because, oh yeah, you know, and she goes, aren’t you worried? She’s like mad at him. And he spells out, calm down, she’s fine. And she suddenly realized, she goes, you knew. And. And he spelled out it had to happen. And so whenever I get, I finally get a chance to talk to with him. And my daughter told me, I said, okay, how much do you know? How much do you know that had like before, I need to understand how. Why did it have to happen? Did he answer that for God’s wonderful plan to work? Okay.

And I don’t necessarily have all the answers to that question as to all the reasons why everything has to happen. But for someone who has been through what he has been through, his confidence and assurance in the goodness of God despite what he has been through, it must be a pretty incredible plan. And yet that’s what God tells us all throughout the Bible is that he makes brings life from death, that he brings beauty from ashes, that he brings joy from mourning. Like that’s who he is. He makes all things new. But anyway, so I sat down with them and I said, all right, I need you to tell me about heaven.

What have you Seen. What do you know? Like, I need answers. And so he said, like, it was the most obvious thing in the world. He said, well, of course, Jesus is always healing someone. And I was like, what? What do you mean he’s healing someone? Are we, like, don’t tell me there’s more that we have to do. Like, I’m like, my theological box was just getting blown up. And he looked at me with what I can only describe as kind pity. And he said, he spells out, explaining heaven to you takes great elasticity. Wow, okay, we’ll try.

And he said, well, really, it’s like he replenishes them to deal with their repentance. And he began to explain more. And I realized, oh, my word, this is actually what it talks about in 1st Peter 4. 6. For this reason, the Gospel is preached even to those who are dead, that all they will not live in the body. They will live in the Spirit as God does. And then there were other examples where one day I picked him up from school, and he was very upset, like, distraught. And I was like, what’s wrong? And he said that he had had a vision.

And I said, well, isn’t that good? And he said. He said, many times I have wonderful visions, but sometimes a scary one. And I said, well, share it with me. And he said. And he described two roads and how many people were on this one road going to hell. And I said, wait a second. You’ve. You’ve seen the two roads? Because it talks about that in Matthew and in Mark. And he spelled out maddening. And I said. And then he goes, you’re wonderful to try to stop it. I said, I haven’t done anything. This was actually me being very angry at him.

But he had. He already knew. And he went on. He goes, you’re the talk of heaven. And I was like, that’s ridiculous. And I literally. I was so angry, I slammed the car door and got in the car. I wouldn’t even talk to him. But what he was actually talking about was this. Was this story, this book, this hope that I was going to end up writing. And he already knew about it. And when you. When you do read the book, you’ll understand. I’m. I’m very honest and I’m very broken. But at the end of this book, what I come face to face with is the goodness of God and the hope that we have in Christ that is far, far, far beyond our wildest imagination.

And other things that, you know, Houston could see in the Spirit that I couldn’t or that he saw in heaven. He described the robe of Christ, which I wasn’t even familiar with that passage in the Bible. And sure enough, it’s exactly as he has described. He talked about the. The angels of children see the father’s face first. And he talked about the angels of children. And sure enough, that’s in the Bible. And he talked about our prayers in the incred that our prayers are literally like worship before God. And he talked about the activity of prayers and how prayers were different than thoughts that they actually had a lift to them.

And everything that I. That he shared, I would go searching through scripture and sure enough, there would be a verse that confirmed what he was saying. His language was incredibly, you know, unique, poetic, but it matched scripture. And then what was incredible was these things about creation itself that he could see that I couldn’t. Things about trees and mushrooms and stones. And I was very like stones, because that’s, you know, new age and all that. And I was, I’m, you know, from a very traditional background. And wouldn’t you know it, there are 1704 references to precious gems in the Bible.

And it talks about that, you know, if they will. If the people will not praise him, the very stones will rise up to praise him. Well, don’t you think that the Bible that a lot of the organizations have stripped out a lot of the meaning that. And don’t really follow what this truth is, these universal truths. And that as you’re exploring with him, I’m assuming you’re realizing some of that, because I would say that there’s some of these, these teachings are opposite to what they really should be. And it’s because humans are humans and we’re. And I want to be kind to the church.

Sure. Because I don’t think, especially the church today, they don’t realize what was lost. They don’t realize what was taken out. Well, and the church is not just one church. I’m just, you know, there’s many different segments of church and there’s many different groups. So what happened was. Well, first of all, if this is why understanding Judaism is so important, because that’s actually where Christ, where God made a covenant with Abraham get, promising Abraham the Christ that through his seed would bless the entire world. That was the covenant. And, and God showed Abraham how to be a holy people and how.

And he gave them so much of a. Of a way to have that connection between spirit and, and creation. And that was all a part of their worship. There was so much of that understanding that immersed in all of their I don’t even want to call them rituals, but it was part of their practice. It was how they lived. You know, even like taking a Sabbath, like, you know, basically honoring time, honoring rest, honoring humanity, honoring creat of these things they had. It was a physical way to honor a spiritual truth. Yes, yeah. And to experience both.

Well, I think what’s so amazing about your story, it’s so much about religion uses words that trigger people in the wrong way. Like, it’s not words. I have to be able to articulate this. Well, someone like your son is experiencing things in its wholeness, truth, and then trying to explain it in the way that a human can understand. Right. In the way we can understand. And the Bible was written for people of a time to try to understand what their realities were. And it doesn’t always match what our current language is and what our current realities are.

And there’s is not a great language to describe. That’s right. Yeah. So there’s a lot of limitations to language itself. But what happened in history was you had the church started, and of course they were Jewish. That’s what they were. So they already had that understanding of how spirit connects to matter. Like that was already part of Jewish understanding. And. And there were a lot of just. And that’s why it’s so important to understand Jesus or Yeshua, you know, as a Jew, because that’s where he gave them all of these traditions and understandings and then came and experienced them and lived them.

Do you think that possibly it existed before he was there as well, and that he just came to help people understand them? Well, he is the source of everything. Okay, so everything is Him. And that’s what John1 talks about, is that in the beginning was the Word. And think about Word. It basically means being. It means the Word made manifest. That’s what he is. He’s literally the fullness of God, the will of God incarnate. So in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things came through Him.

Without him, nothing that exists is. So literally everything derives its being from Him. All things. And anyway, so whenever the church, you know, they had this understanding in the beginning, and we’re developing, and I’m sure there were influences from other, you know, cultures and everything else, and that’s hard to determine. You know, the purity part, like what’s from another culture versus what was original, you know, that’s just difficult to ascertain from this 2000 years out. Yeah. And understanding what I mean, I just Think there’s universal truth and understanding that it doesn’t. I don’t know how to articulate some of these things yet.

That it doesn’t really even matter how you look at that as long as getting to the universal truth and, and then being able to be able to implement it in your own life and help. Help others around you thrive and that, you know, like the. Everything coming from him. I don’t know if that matters, but that’s just my own interpret. That doesn’t matter in that way. Because some of the teachings that he said that, you know, I am. You can do everything. I can do those kinds of things. So that’s where I’m like, I don’t know what all that means.

But the. The point of this is for us to have that journey of trying. I think the journey itself is important so that we. This critical thinking and struggling to understand it is important and, and having the openness and the intentions of doing good in the process, if that makes sense. Yes, for sure. The. The original covenant that God made with Abraham was the law to essentially to be a holy people. And then Christ completed the law and he gave us a new covenant. And that was to love each other, to love as he has loved.

And that is the new covenant that we’re supposed to be walking in. And I would say we’re doing a pretty bad job at it. But. But as to. That’s not a statement, so. But your. Your son felt all these things and he’s trying to communicate these things and communicated. I had a. A pastor tell me once, and it was one of the best conversations I’ve ever had. I was in college and I was sitting at a bar, I don’t know, some event that I went to. And he was an independent. He became independent. And he said that the problem with language is that.

And this is why Jesus never wrote anything down. He showed people. He acted it out. He showed. Because language is. Is constraining you. It’s really difficult for people to understand through language. They have to be shown. Have you ever read Johan Haman? No. So he’s a wonderful philosopher from the 1700s who was in real resistance contrary to the Enlightenment and the thinkers of that day. And his whole point was that everything is poetry, that he was kind of going back to the Word, that the language itself is constraining and it has limitations. But poetry is everything.

Poetry is the emotion, the rhythm, the meaning, the intent, the wholeness of it. And that that was actually the source of everything was, which is again the Word. But I mean, it’s like. But it’s the being, it’s the all. But when you. I think there’s a couple of things where we have to look at. Like, for example, if you have. Somebody can say Thanksgiving, but that’s not the same as. As the smell and having that feeling of family all around and the sound of the football and all the activity. Whereas one word has the limit, and you know what that means.

But if some were to give you all the sensory experience at once, that would evoke a much deeper meaning. And I think that’s what you’re trying to explain and that Houston experiences. They experience all of everything. The emotion, the smell. And this is where synesthesia comes in, because he doesn’t just see light, he hears it, he tastes it. He doesn’t just hear music, he sees it, he tastes it, he smells the music. So it’s this ability to experience every single level of every single type of energy all at the same time that’s so incredible. Does he.

Can he do classical music? Just sit there and do classical music, that kind of stuff? Yeah. He actually said that he has heard music, that if anyone heard the music that he has heard, that there is no way that they could not believe that God exists. Wow. Yeah. And I mean, we’re working very slowly on trying to get his. His pitch is perfect. He’s. His music reading is incredible, but getting him. His fingers to do the notes is incredibly difficult. He’s trying to learn the trumpet, but getting his mouth and his diaphragm to get enough air out is incredibly difficult.

People don’t realize that speech is one of the most incredibly complex motor skills there is. So when your motor is impaired, it’s very difficult. It requires over seven different systems to coordinate together using over 100 different muscles, all with perfect timing and force. And we do it just subconsciously. That’s exactly right. And so when your motor is impaired, it’s not that you’re not thinking, it’s that you can’t coordinate all of that motor. Just a quick break from the program. I need to share with you an urgent manner about scam gold IRAs and the important need to make sure that you’re working with a trusted company in the precious metals space.

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I would be like why? You know, you have to have a partner who has that same level of expertise to be able to communicate effectively. It’s just like language or, or at least a limited. Because he probably has more expertise than anybody. Right. An average, even a composer would. Yeah, because he’s understanding it on a, just a multi level experience. So being able to communicate the depth of that is difficult even with you when you haven’t. This is what’s so incredible about a symphony is it you have all these different instruments with all these different, you know, rhythms and timbers and, and pitches.

Everything resonates at a different part of your soul. Again it’s all energy, it’s all frequency. Well I wonder if a genius composer actually has more of those sensories when it comes to that. Like we, if we’re really gifted in an area, we for some reason are, we’re getting more of that sensory data. Well and that’s what’s so incredible about that pruning process is that we’re all, we come into the world with so much access to everything, both the spiritual but and the physical. And yet some of us in that pruning process God gives us, he, he keeps those doors open and they still have access.

So those geniuses, what has happened is they’ve retained access. It’s just something that they’ve never lost. Whereas those of us. And of course the more, the more left brain you are, the more logical the More task oriented, the more physical you are, the more you are limiting and pruning that creative connection to the divine. Oh, but I was going to say about the how the church. What they didn’t realize that happened was around 5, 700 A.D. there was this humanist movement that began in India. And the whole idea was that we can determine what is true by us.

That we are essentially what makes something true. Our ability to acknowledge it and say it’s here or it’s not here. Our ability to reason, our ability to sense it is what makes it true. And this whole idea actually birthed materialism. And that went through the intellectual circles of the day, which of course influenced the church, it influenced government. This is what out of which came the Enlightenment. And then the, which I call the enliventment, which is where we limited what was true to what we could perceive, which is again 4%. So really? That’s right. That, yes, I love that because that defines almost everything.

The fact that we can only see, we’re so limited. And that’s what I meant by the 96%. That’s a better way of communicating it. The 96% of the, like the Bible or anything the church does because of the human can only see 4%. It’s limited in how it can even describe this to us and how we can perceive it. And if we’re missing 96, we’re like infants in this. It’s just, it’s very thinking. Yeah. I think in Revelation and as well with Elijah when they are both in Daniel as well when they’re trying to describe heaven and Houston, it was one of.

That was another thing that he was describing. Like he, when he was describing angels and he was like they’re, he’s like, it’s like they have fire for, or like wings for feet. And he said it’s like they are powered by emotion. But if you think about that, like our emotion by the way also energy, that’s actually what the word means is E, energy in motion, emotion. And they’re actually produced, our emotions are produced, their frequencies produced by our organs. So all of these parts of our body are all connected in this both spiritual and physical way.

And but we’re, we’re only looking at the physical and we’re kind of. And we’re trying to basically dismiss the spiritual part of us. And that whole materialist movement went into it basically influenced all sectors of society. And that’s where people started. We started getting this idea that like you’re supposed to pretend like spirit doesn’t exist. That a soul doesn’t exist, that none of that’s real, that and everything has to have a material explanation. And I think that’s what’s so incredible about these non speakers is that they are defying that rationale and that explanation. Because we even know just by looking at other animals that there are things they can perceive that we can’t.

So our ability to testify to it by our senses isn’t even right by other animals. That’s right. And I think our understanding of frequency science and physics and stuff is starting to bridge some of these gaps because the art acknowledgment of us being frequency and the scientists starting to realize that opens up a whole can of worms in this area. And I think one of the most beautiful things is that there, there are actually scientists that are putting, they’re taking the frequencies that like mushrooms produce or trees produce or plants produce and they’re putting them, amplifying them and then taking that to.

So that it’s in a range that our ears can hear, but we’re actually getting to hear the songs of trees and the sounds of the mushrooms and all of these other things that communicate. And Heart Math Institute, which is an incredible organization, they do a really great job of showing how animals like horses, dogs or even trees and how our physical physiology changes and comes into rhythm and alignment with other parts of creation like horses or dogs or treats and, or even just the earth. Even just grounding being with the earth. Yep. And. And it starts to sound, it starts to sound woo, doesn’t it? And, but the, the.

I don’t know, I just think it. No, no, no, no. What I’m saying is, is that, that we, we bash these other people and way of thinking and it’s like, wait a minute, maybe we can come together and start understanding what it is because they have different senses and different experiences and they have a hard, A lot of people have a hard cut off on religion, right? They just, they see it as bad. And it’s like, well, I don’t like, wait a minute here. There’s, there’s like so much richness that people aren’t allowed to explore. But I also say that the, the Christians or the religious folks folks are not, aren’t are seeing this other side is bad.

And it’s like, wait a minute. Some of this stuff is being explored in, in the Bible and in Christianity. So I think that our 4% of reality and people, different people have different senses is maybe we need to open up and go, okay, what is this all about? Well, I, again, this is the whole thing about materialism is it influenced the church, and the church became probably one of the most materialistic organizations and institutions, and that their entire way of thinking is materialistic. And if it’s outside of something that they can understand, then they think it’s bad.

And that is not from the Bible that they get that. That is from humanism that they get that. And so what I’m saying is it’s. It’s in the Bible. It’s already there. Where they got a bad idea about it was the influence of humanism on Christianity and on how we understand and perceive truth. And one of my. One of my favorite stories that I include was a story about the Western health care workers or counselors, basically after the Rwandan genocide. I don’t know if you know this story. I don’t know that, but I know about the Rwanda genocide that was so obviously they had experienced horrific, you know, evil.

And he said the. These Western workers came in and had us, took us into these dingy rooms and had us talk about horrible things that happened. And he said there was no coming together as a community, no being out in the sun, not none of the. Of the drums, not nothing that would make you feel like that was something that you could be separate from, that you could heal from. And it was this. And I’m probably doing. No, that’s. That’s exactly right. This is great. And so what I’m trying to get people to understand is that there’s a lot of humanism in church and how we practice Christianity, that shouldn’t be there.

And what you mean by humanism isn’t us. They’ve kind of messed that up, too. The word means so many different things to some people. Humanism means that all people are in. Are worthy. And you know, oh, that’s not what I says. I know, that’s why I’m correcting it. But. Yeah, but you. That’s why words are so hard, because people have different meanings for the same word. What you mean is something different. What I mean is that it’s only. It’s basically this limitation of reason and the age of reason had on us, where something’s only true if we can understand it and explain it and nothing mysterious, curious is true.

Or if it’s. If it exists and we can’t, you know, we can’t dismiss that it exists, then it’s bad. You know, it’s like anything spiritual is bad. And I always laugh because, like Christians and, and non Christians, this is how I would explain It. And this would be people who. Who are at least recognizing that spirituality exists, right? So Christians are like, anything mysterious is from the devil and. And New Age are like, anything mysterious is wonderful and from God. And I’m like, actually, it’s neither because there’s both. And that’s where we need to have this discernment, to be able to discern what from the spiritual realm is good and what is bad, because there are both.

And that’s where, like this earth, that we’re. It says that. That this battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the powers and principalities in the spiritual realm. That’s what’s actually going on. We are playing out this role in this great cosmic war between good and evil. And that is why discernment is so critical and why I absolutely want people to root themselves into God’s word and to do God’s will, because that’s where you really start to have that discernment. But I also want them to have a greater understanding of his creation and how the spiritual is in everything, all things.

And in that critical discernment, don’t just judge hard. That. That’s not necessarily. Like. You had a really great analogy here of there’s both. And that unders. The truth is broader than this. 4%. The humanism. You said, you know, humanism means. I hope people understand what you mean by humanism, because otherwise that’ll shut people down too. Words are such a problem with tripping. It triggers people so much much. My kids always say, mom, you got to change your words because you. You’re triggering. I’m like, God, I didn’t know I was there. I thought it was so. It’s.

It’s words for different generations mean things. Words for different organizations mean things. Words for different religious areas mean things. It’s like, we just got to stop people and we got. We need to stop being so judgmental and so closed off and say, okay, what. What does. What is all this? And I loved the way you described it. I thought it was. Was almost perfect of. Of, you know, people who think that all things that are different and mysterious are good and there is some darkness there, and you have to be careful. And then they think that anything that’s mysterious is bad, and that’s not right either.

And so, I mean, that was such a good way of explaining it. And. And it. It’s scary because we can’t see it, and so we don’t know how to be certain. And the thing about logic and reason is you’re certain, right? You think you’re certain, but you, you think you’ve got all the information, you’ve got all the evidence. You can now make a choice and a discernment and a decision based on what you think is all the evidence. But when you realize that there’s evidence, you can’t see and perceive with your senses. Frightening. God, you, you are such.

This is so great. I think you’re the, the information that your son and others like him. I had Diane Hennessy, Dr. Diane Hennessy, on my program. She’s amazing. People should. I should have a link to that interview as well, the telepathy files. And you have other doctors and people who are really starting to take a look at your son. In fact, he’s probably the most researched person because he’s so amazing. Where can people learn more about you? Get a copy of your book and, you know, start looking at some of these things. Well, our book is on Amazon.

It’s called the Book of Heaven. I’ll hold it up here. So there it is. And it’s also an audiobook on. You can go on Audible or on Amazon, the ACX platform. So it’s available there. There’s a Kindle version. There’s several different versions. So hopefully there’s something for everyone. As far as how it also are stories in the telepathy tapes, which is part of Dr. Powell. The way that actually happened was I had published our book and someone told me, you need a book agent, but no book agent is going to believe you. I know. Yeah. So you need a scientist to back you up.

So I started trying to find a scientist. And So I found Dr. Powell, Dr. Powell Hennessy, and she just goes by Powell now, I think. Right. Keep going. I. One of the other. And I, yeah, she did start changing it, so I’m not sure I know. I, I. So I hope we’re doing her justice, but she’s amazing. So. But she had just agreed to do a documentary with Kai Dickens, and so she said, would you meet the film director? And I said, of course. And so we worked for. They did the sizzle reel, and we worked for a couple of years just putting together different outlines and everything else to pitch to all these different networks.

And here’s the really sad part is none of the networks were. Would take the project. They would be really interested. But then when it would get all the way up, they would say, you know, no, this is the crazy part. No one would be interested in this. And our mandates are crime and celebrities. Isn’t that crazy? Because it was the number one podcast on Christmas. Oh, it was bigger than Joe Rogan. It was bigger than all of them. There is an appetite for this, but they have this mandate. It’s the same way that, you know, like, my.

My stats are amazing. Not all my shows, but a lot of them. And they just claim that nobody’s interested. It’s not. There’s this huge hunger for this, and it’s just wrong. And I do think there’s pressure. I do think it’s going to change. The dam is going to break. And that’s what I was talking about, though, is that that viewpoint of reason and materialism had this huge impact on our culture and all the institutions. And so now the push to say, no, there is more. It’s difficult to push against all that institutional power, but that’s actually what’s necessary, is for us to do that.

And so then basically, Kai was like, I don’t know what to do. So she made the podcast and it went viral. And we were really like, are you sure? Because they can’t see it. You know what I mean? It was that. But I think it. The stories are so powerful and they’re true. And I think that when you hear us talk, all the parents, when you hear us, you know we’re telling the truth. Like, you know, that we’re absolutely. We are sharing our story. And, you know, I’ve had different. You know, I have come up against, you know, the religious people and.

And how it’s challenged them and. And I want people to know I did such an incredible job of research in our. In our book, pulling the scripture references to these incredible abilities that when people read the book, they are like the box that I had gotten just got blown up. It softens their. Their hardness when they can say, okay, maybe. Maybe there’s more here. And that’s what we. The goal is, introducing people to this stuff is maybe it can soften your hardness in this direction. I’m trying to introduce people to all different things, but I’m hoping exactly what you said, we can start softening this hardness and saying, okay, well, what is the truth here? Well, I hope I have contributed significantly.

And we’re, you know, we answer a lot of questions that people have, you know, in our book. And because I anticipated them, I wanted. I wanted to take people through my doubt. And that’s where it’s written from. It’s written from a place of great anguish and great doubt, especially that God could be good, considering the trauma that we lived with. That was probably the most profound struggle That I faced. How can God be good if this is what he has done to me? And it’s that journey that, that gets you. It’s that, that, that journey. People think you already need to be there and don’t leave there and don’t know.

No, no, no. A lot of times it’s that journey of figuring it out and stumbling and working hard at it that gets you there. There’s some other books that were in the Ethiopian bible that talk about. It wrangles with the idea of why evil even exists and why suffering exists. I mean, there’s some other thoughts that never got put into. And I just published something about that. What is, you know, I don’t think anything should be off limits. I think we should be able to read, look and search and figure out what the truth is. And your son is such a window to that.

Well, you know, like, people get all upset about, you know, the Talmud, and I’m like, well, first of all, you don’t understand what it is. It’s actually debates between different, you know, so it was them thousands of years ago trying to figure this stuff out. It was literally them doing the same things we’re doing now. And so you don’t take things out of context. You don’t pull something out and go see, it’s this. No, you take it in its wholeness and understand the time, the people, the places, what was going on. And you, you give, you give grace and you try even if you don’t understand it, you give grace and you find that place where, if, even if you don’t agree, where I know what I believe, I know what I hold in my heart to be true, and I’m going to love this person because they are made in the image of God.

And I’m just going to love them exactly where they are. And I’m going to find a way to be the hands and feet of Christ. That’s. That’s really. That’s profound. Well, thank you so much for joining the program. I really appreciate it. Your son and probably all your kids. I know all your kids are amazing, and thank you so much for everything that you’re doing. Putting yourself out there, getting this word out there, doing your part at making. Making this just a better place, a more loving place to be. So thank you.
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