Dark Secrets of the Vatican and the New Popes Hidden Crimes

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Sam Sa think of how many abused, screwed up people there are in the Church, you know, and they vent that rage externally on whatever target they want. I mean, you see that in any tyrannical system. And the Church of Rome was the ultimate tyranny. It gave rise to Nazism, to all of the tyrannies in the world because they believe that one man is God. It says that, you know, like you compare scripture with the teachings of the Church of Rome and they’re totally opposite. Like, remember the Bible says call no one Father because you have one Father in heaven.

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Hi, Kevin. Welcome back to the program. Hi, sir. Good to be back. Well, I’m so glad you’re here because there are few that have studied, you know, Christianity and spiritualism and the occult and all that stuff than you and have looked at it, have been able to take a step out and say, okay, what is this all about? And you know, because sometimes when you’re in it, you lose, you lose complete sight of what’s really going on. But when you can take a step back and look at stuff more objectively, you get to see what the, what Christianity and what the new age is and what the occult is and all that stuff.

And so I wanted to ask you one, one thing before we really dive into this. I want to see if you’ve noticed the trend on Tick tock and on YouTube that it seems there’s, there is a spiritual war going on. But it seems that the, the videos and the information that’s allowed to really flourish or anything that has to do with New age, the, a different religion and Christianity is making somewhat of a comeback, but it looks like they’re really trying to suppress Christianity and build up a new religion through what they’re allowed and what they propagate.

What do you, what do you think of that? Well, again, that we should ask ourselves what we mean by Christianity because of course, you know, the Pope in Rome considers himself a Christian. At least that’s the verbiage. Right? I mean, but you don’t think he is, right? He’s not. Well, no, he’s not because he says, I am Christ. It’s a, it’s a system of emperor worship really, from the Roman times. But you hang across on it and everyone thinks it’s Christianity, but I mean, the source of Christian faith is Christ himself and revealed within in a personal relationship, not mediated by some big corporation.

Right? And that’s something each person can find and should find on their own. It was never meant to be a big worldwide religion. It was never meant to have anybody between you and God. Right? I mean, that’s the whole point, right? It says that in scripture that Christ alone is the mediary, not whereas the religious people, whether it’s Catholics or any major religion, are always saying, you have to come to us, we will interpret for you, you’ve got it. Well, like the church, Church of Rome said in the year 1302, there is no salvation outside the church.

So they’re replacing Christ. That’s the point. These big corporate systems replace Christ and that’s the enemy. Because what, what we call a new world order needs a new world religion too. And that’s very much what the previous Pope Francis and the present guy who’s in now, Robert Prevost, so called Pope Leo, they’re all working towards that in a big way to meld all face into one based in Rome. So and they of course control, you know, big pharma and the big technology, tick tock, YouTube, they’re all tied into the same corporate system, funded largely by the Vatican Bank.

Right. And so their, their goal really this whole new age thing is to break down. And I realize a lot of people who are in that and looking at that don’t realize they really believe it or looking and trying to find truth. But the whole thing is to break down the existing order and then create something new for everybody to follow. Yeah, well, that’s been, you know, when we talked a lot about genocide, wiping out a group, what’s at the heart of that is the idea that you don’t have the right to be yourself. You have to be like us or you’re dead.

And now it’s, we call it omnicide. The whole human race is at stake. The whole human race has been targeted. You know, our families, our liberties, our, our own thoughts. We say that everywhere, regardless of the politics of the religion. It’s like this sickness spreading all over the planet. And when you think about it, it’s the way a machine thinks. You know, people are supposed to be components in the machine and not have their own individuality or the machine breaks down. So I think we need to step back and look at the whole dragon and not just the individual scales, you know, of this injustice or that.

We have to see the whole thing we’re dealing with. Right? Yeah, because it’s a bigger picture at play. So let’s talk a little bit in order to see the bigger picture. Let’s talk a little bit more about the history of the Vatican, because I don’t think people really understand, you know, people who really research do, but people understand what the true history is and even the history of the Bible. Right. Well, I mean, when you go to a seminary and learn these things, it’s very controlled. You’re only allowed certain, you know, lines of thought. And like, for example, when I was A minister.

I would bring in things like the Gnostic Gospels, the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, the things that have been suppressed by the Church. You get a very different view of what Christianity has been when you look at those other sources. But I wrote this book, and this is dethroning a rogue power. It’s why the Vatican needs to be expelled from the UN and other bodies. And in the last month, we sold over 800 of these. I mean, the word is really getting around people. Really? Yeah, it’s really excellent. But we go into that whole question there about history, the history of the Vatican.

What is it? And you know, when you go back and look at the source, it began as a corporation, the world’s first corporation, set up in the year 317. And what’s really interesting when you look archaeologically and historically, the cross never appeared until about almost 300 years after Christ. It wasn’t. The cross was an image that came out of Rome. Not early. The early. I don’t even want to call it. Christianity was kind of a movement around Jesus based on his teachings. And you saw the fish, you know that fish symbol? Yeah, that was the. You know, they’re kind of code symbol because they were repressed and attacked all the time by the Roman Empire.

But suddenly you see this cross appear, and it appeared right at the same time that the Church of Rome became institutionalized and really took over the empire as it fell apart. So, you know, it’s so blatant, but the cross is supposed to. Hold on a second before you get into the name of the book. The cross is supposed to represent the crucifixion of Jesus or they just. They just decided to do that and make it that. Well, it’s got a double meaning. Okay. Yeah. To Christians, it means the redemptive sacrifice of Jesus to. To save humanity.

I mean, that’s the official line. But the other use of it is if. And. And this is energetic. It has to do with the, you know, the grid system in any city, the street. Yeah, you brought these grids. Okay. That’s basically all on the energy lines. Okay. The Roman arm, the Romans, would invade an area, set up a camp. The army. The Roman army, in one night would set up this camp based on those grids. Towns and cities would evolve from that in Europe. And it’s the. When you look at what the cross is, it’s the inside of that box, okay.

It’s capturing energy. Right. Pinning Christ to a cross is. It’s an inversion of energy. And that’s exactly what the Church did It took the message of Jesus, which is so compelling and turned it into saying okay, but it happens to us now, happens through this institution. We’ll capture your energy. It’s, it’s really a form of energetic vampirism. And you see that when you look at a quote, loyal Catholic, they’re just caught up in this completely, you know. Yeah. The loyal Catholics are incredibly unable to question. They read the Scripture and they can’t even interpret it. I mean it’s just like they’re, I’ve never very close minded, very, I mean the ones who are really devoted and I’m sorry if I’m offending anybody, but I, I, I, I was, I have in.

They’re, they’re very offensive a lot of times in the way they talk about who should be and you can’t say anything to them. They think that they’re loving. But I’ve just been in the, in the midst of some very conservative Christians and Catholics who have said some things to me that were draw jaw dropping. That to me is totally against what Jesus taught. And I’m, I don’t know. I know you know what I’m talking about. Oh yeah, well, I get it. I mean that extreme examples when we were holding vigils with native people outside Catholic churches, we got physically attacked.

There was so much hatred and rage in these, in these Catholics. And one of the reasons, of course, is that it’s been the law for a long time in the Catholic Church when children are harmed and raped, no one is to talk about it. Think of how many abused, screwed up people there are in the church, you know, and they vent that rage externally on whatever target they want. I mean, you see that in any tyrannical system. And the Church of Rome was the ultimate tyranny. It gave rise to Nazism, to all of the tyrannies in the world because they believe that one man is God.

It says that, you know, like you can compare scripture with the teachings of the Church of Rome and they’re totally opposite. Like remember the Bible says call no one Father because you have one father in heaven. Well, what do you call, they call every priest, every Pope, you know, Father, you know, and it goes right down. You cannot buy your way into heaven with money. I mean, time and again, you know, they’re talking about these beautiful things in there. Yeah, totally. But they do beautiful things in the Bible. Right, but yet they use the scripture to do bad stuff.

Right. I mean I don’t to be close minded to see. I mean I had somebody tell me that the Husband should be the spiritual leader in the home and in charge of spiritual leadership. I’m like, well, everybody has their own relationship. That’s, to me, that’s just so wrong. I mean, what. Don’t forget. No, you know, in the Bible, for example, in Deuteronomy in the Old Testament, they lay out this code that was supposed to govern the life of the Hebrews, right? And it has things like if your child talks back to you, kill him. If a woman who is in her period has sexual relations with you, kill her.

I mean it was a very brutal. There’s aspects in the Bible that come out of an early tribal period where people believe that, but I think our understanding evolves and I think Jesus represented that evolution, one of compassion and mercy. Okay. Like, like we do in life, you know, we evolve from young age, we give wisdom and compassion hopefully, or we can go in the other direction. But the point is it, it represents, you know, that God like us evolved. Nothing is static in the universe, but at the core of it is that, that, that love which unites the human race and which Jesus was an embodiment of.

And we don’t need a church to practice that. Right. Well, I, you know, when I was growing up, I think I was very fortunate because I was in some grew up in a Christian, pretty Christian. But my mom was a eucharistic minister and my dad was always a senior morden and stuff. But they put us in different environments that were actually trying to search for that what you were talking about that always trying to figure out what it is to get to that place where everybody flourishes. So I was in the embodiment of what was good.

Right. And so when I look around and I see all these things that aren’t that like wait a minute, you’re, you’re not, this is not what it’s about. Yeah, I was very fortunate. I grew up in a really different environment. You’re lucky. I mean, but it’s kind of a curse, a blessing and a curse in some ways because now you, you see the, the hypocrisy everywhere, right? And I mean there’s no better cover for crime than religion because you can morally defer responsibility onto God. You know, this unseen figure who, you know, we know that from history that if we didn’t have religion the world would have been a lot more peaceful place because, you know, it’s like this two headed beast and it’s really interesting, the indigenous people here had this prophecy that this two headed snake would come from the east.

This is Long before Columbus. And the two headed snake would have, would have. One head would be vicious, the other would be loving. But they didn’t know that each other existed. And that’s a perfect description of our culture. And the word Vatican actually means serpent. That is, it’s like one, it’s. They’re loving and that’s the dichotomy. It’s like, you see, and they only see that they’re loving. They don’t see that they’re vicious and so, but they’re both. And they can’t see the, the viciousness of themselves. And, and the reason why that you have to say, well, it’s good.

What is good? There’s a loving nature to it. But then there also this, which is the exact opposite. Right. Well, you know, I, I. Great analogy. Yeah. Like people often say to me, aren’t there good people in the church? And I said, well, yeah, but look at what they’re part of. Look where their money is going to. They’re supporting the child killers. How can they sit alongside them? Right? So I mean it, it’s almost like they’re, it’s. Imagine a big train and it, or a big vehicle, it’s, it’s crashing over people and yet inside it’s all comfy and cozy and people are talking about Jesus.

But the machine they’re part of is causing incredible destruction. And that’s what I say to people, get out of the machine to start again, stop these criminals. I was in this, I was in this and beautiful environment really when it came to that. I didn’t know it was this big thing. The beautiful environment is what you want to keep. You just don’t want it. Part of that big machine that’s evil. Right. I mean, that’s what you said and that’s why, you know, the. Yeah, I’ve learned a lot. Yeah. Go back to basics and, and you know, you hear that from traditional indigenous people all the time that you have a right relation with Mother Earth and each other.

Just establish it again. Right. And so I mean, I think these things are common sense. It’s like common law. Right. But people have so many weird ideas and they don’t want to offend their neighbor or the person sitting next to them in church on Sunday. Well, and I don’t want this. Well, this is going to be an offensive show and I don’t want it to be offensive. I think people need to challenge everything and say, how do we get back to what the true teachings of, of Christ was? And that’s what we’re discussing. Yeah. Who was more offensive than Jesus.

Look at all the people he offended. It was a matter of worrying about offending human beings. But whether we offend God, whether we offend the truth, you know, and that should be our first loyalty. Right? Well, let’s talk about the history of the church, okay. The true history of the church, at least as far as we or you know it to be, when what happened there really what was established. And my understanding is that, okay, and I want you to correct this. There was or not correct us, but add to it or whatever. They were pagans, right.

They had occult worship. They had all these things and, and they never gave. It’s not like the. The most powerful, most wealthiest people in the world are just going to stop following their religion and take up Christianity. So they stayed with their religion but created a face so they could bring the average masses into it. And they’ve been practicing their same religion for 2000 years. A quick break in the program to share with you that the gold market, the silver markets are seeing huge movements not seen in our lifetime. Massive movements of gold coming off the comex, coming back to the United States.

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Okay, back to the program. Yeah, I mean, it was kind of a merger of you had this early movement around Jesus and then you had The Roman Church. And everyone knows about the Emperor Constantine. Right. He, the church line is who he became a Christian and was able to win victories in battle as a result. Right. That’s not at all what happened. It’s kind of detailed, but in essence what occurred was he made a deal with the Church that you can become the state religion, but you’ve got to support the empire. So here’s a concrete example.

About 50 years before Constantine, the policy of the Church in the Christians in Rome was you don’t kill, you don’t serve in the army. If you’re a soldier, you refuse to kill. That’s the most basic teaching. Love your enemy. 50 years later, once they become institutionalized, the policy, the Church of Rome becomes you can kill in the service the Emperor and still love Christ in your heart. They made this kind of schizophrenic division between interfaith and outer practice in the world. Yeah. So there you go, 180 degree turn. Yes, you can kill in the name of Christ.

You have to think a little bit. Right. Here comes the Crusades, here comes just war, here comes genocide. Right. Because of that separation. And the most basic teaching of Jesus was, you know, do not kill your fellow human being. Right. So it’s one of the ten Commandments. There’s an example. But yet now we can. That’s the corruption that happened and that led to a lot of problems. Yeah. Well, you’re absolved. It’s like they said in the Crusades, if you go and kill any enemy of the Church, you’re returned to a state of grace. All your sins are wiped out.

So that’s what I say to people, genocide, wiping out other people for the Church was healthy for you as a Christian. It redeemed you by wiping out other people. You know, and that’s what we inherited. So naturally we’re all screwed up because we’re carrying these 200 like the two headed snake, we got these, the schizophrenic, you know, kill your enemy, but love your enemy. You know, it’s like, how does that work? Right? It doesn’t work. Okay, so what else would you say as a history of the Church? Because my understanding, I’ve had Alex Newman, for example, who went to charter schools with a lot of the elite and he’s like, they still, two thirds of them still teach the pagan religion and they have never stopped.

He says that’s just what they do. They, that’s what they teach. Yeah. The pagan religion that was there 2000 years ago really just continued and they don’t even try to put a face on it in their own, their own families. Am I wrong? Is that wrong? Is that what you different than what you’ve seen? Well, well, it depends. I know what you’re talking about. And it’s, it depends what you mean by pagan because that was a term the church used against anyone who wasn’t a Catholic. Okay, so maybe pagan isn’t the right word either. Right? It’s whatever their, their religion because I had somebody push back on me and say, don’t disgrace the pagan religion.

It’s a loving earth related religion and blah, blah, blah. And so. Well then what was it? What’s the proper name for the religion that the Romans and the elite and the powerful have had from 3,000 or 2,000 years ago till today? What is that called? Is there any. I’m sure they have a name. I don’t know if there’s a name for all of it, but they, for example, worship many gods, right? Not just one, but they had many gods. And some of them like weren’t vicious gods and some weren’t. You see that all over the world, like in Hinduism they have what, a thousand deities or something? But I, I think it doesn’t matter what people call themselves.

It’s what they do in life that matters. And I think a lot of these elites, if you want to call them that, worship themselves. They worship their own power. It’s like what you see in Rome, you know, money and power. And that is more important than your neighbor. Right. Or spiritual truth. And they’re trying to impose that on everybody. And that’s the whole how the whole corporate system came about. Again, Church of Rome was the first corporation. And corpus means corpse, means something dead. And when you’re ahead of a corporation, you’re not liable for anything under the law.

You know, that’s why it was set up so people could get away with murder and crime and never be touched individually. Right. That’s why what every corporate office in the world has that benefit. Every Pope, every head of state, they can commit crime and get away with it. That’s their religion. I believe it’s power. It’s about power over people. Not with like Christ wasn’t over others, right? He said, be the servant of all right? This is about roll over. If you just take out what Christ said, it would be so beautiful. You know, his messaging was amazing.

So let’s talk about the Vatican. The Vatican isn’t quite what we think it is. Jimmy Boots, James Rothstein was brought in. I interviewed, I did A series of interviews with them. And he was brought in to help clean up the church under the first Pope John Paul, who was in office for maybe less than a month. And he was taken out by, yeah, 20. And he was taken, he was killed. He told, he said it flat out, Benedict killed him. And that’s a Jimmy Boot and Detective Ross and, and then, I mean the church, we, we had one person that was trying to clean it up.

And so it wasn’t always bad. Right. There’s some good people that sneak in, but he was killed immediately. Yep. Well, that, it’s interesting you mentioned that because that’s in, in the, the news we have about the, a new court case being brought in Europe against, against the present so called Pope Leo Robert Prevost. He’s an American. Well, he’s Peruvian and American. And he was ordained by the very month that John Paul I Albino Luciano, when he was poisoned in the Vatican. That same month Prevost became a priest in Rome. And according to eyewitnesses, he was present at a Ninth Circle ceremony with John Paul ii.

And he has a long association with this Ninth Circle. And we’ve even had eyewitnesses. After an interview in Europe, I got contacted by a woman who was at the ceremony and saw it happen. I sent you a picture of Prevost as a young priest meeting John Paul ii. So I mean the way it works is they have a list, they, early on they have a list of safe people who’ve been to Ninth Circle ceremonies. These are child sacrificial ceremonies. Right. Very similar to the Catholic Mass where they consume the body and the blood of the child.

And if you participate in these, you go on a red list, a safe list. And if you’re not on that list, you can never become a Pope. So they’re choosing popes 50 years in advance. Chance. And people like this John Paulus, first he got in as a fluke. They thought he was, he was unknown and people figured he’d be a safe guy to put in. And then as soon as he got in, he started doing things like ordering the bishops to sell their, their jewelry and give it to the poor and investigating the Vatican Bank. So oh my God, we got an honest guy in here.

We got to get rid of him quick. And they brought in John Paul II because he was not only a secure member of the Nice Circle cult, an active participant during the war, he was a member of this SS Knights of Darkness which was doing satanic rituals right. In the death camps in Europe. There’s A long rap sheet on this gags horrible. And he had to reverse any of these reforms. Also he got Reagan to diplomatically recognize Vatican in return for the CIA funding the Solidarity movement in Poland, the opposition trade union movement with Lensa. So it was a lot of politics in there too.

But this guy was bad news. And the present Pope was his buddy from day one. And that’s what we’re investigating now. The extent of this reach, you know, of these crimes thought about what kind of mind does it take to project out this message of love and peace while you’re. The other side of you is behaving like that, you know, I mean, what kind of person does that? Because you have all these people who. In the Catholic Church who really believes a loving, peaceful. I mean, they really do. They’re not, they’re not bad people because they really believe that’s what they’re part of.

But the evidence is so clear, right? I mean, we are. We know that the evidence of what these people are really involved in. So what kind of person does it take to be that and to misrepresent yourself to so many people individually? It takes what they call a functional, a dissociative personality where. And people who are in positions like, okay, let’s say a guard in the death camp, they’re not crazy, they’re not a sadist, they’re just associated. They do their little job, but they don’t connect it to what’s going on around them. It’s like anybody in the job today, you know, you’re to live in the society, you’ve got to be dissociated.

You’ve got to have a set of values, but it doesn’t go into the workplace or whatever. Right. You’ve got to be able to separate in that way. And when you’re integrated, when your beliefs match your actions, you’re a threat to the system. That’s why they give rid of people like me out of the church who was just trying to practice this stuff. Yeah. You actually believe. Yeah. And that’s what true journalists are. They’re a threat to the system. Right. And that’s why they don’t last long. That’s why there’s a whole bunch of us out there who are, you know, X whatever, because we tried to be consistent in our beliefs now.

So most people are like that. They’re dissociated. But on a bigger level, there’s church teachings that say it’s good to kill for the Church. Thomas Aquinas, one of the philosophical founders of the Church were only a 12th century churchman. He said, to save the soul, we must kill the body. That was the whole point. Inquisition. They really believed that by torturing these people, these, quote, heretics, and by that they meant somebody who just didn’t believe in all the teachings. They were Christian, but they were like a Protestant. They had their own interpretation and wanting to stay true to the Bible and that kill their body to save their soul.

So it’s not at all contradictory to believe that you’ve got to kill someone for their own good. That’s why the church was the force behind genocide all over the world. So I know that’s strange because we’re never forced to face that. You know, a lot of people, yeah, they don’t believe it. They just don’t want to believe it. They don’t believe it. This is going to offend a ton of people. We don’t want to offend people because we’re not like, beating down like, you shouldn’t believe in Jesus. You shouldn’t, you know, research your faith and have faith.

And we’re not trying to say any of that, but this will be a very offensive show because we’re actually questioning things. Things you’re not allowed to question, are you? You cannot question the church without being in bad evil. You’re bad for questioning the church, which is a complete refuting of what Jesus said. Because in Luke 12, he says, why can you not establish the truth for yourself? He’s always telling people that the heaven was within you, the kingdom of heaven lives within you. God give you a mind to reason with. You don’t want to be a Pharisee.

As a matter of fact, remember how in Matthew he goes after the Pharisees, the heads of the churches, you know, they’re the ones who killed Jesus, the heads of religion, right? They condemned and killed him because he was trying to reveal God to them. And they didn’t need Pharisees and churches. So just people can see. See that for themselves. Right, Once they start reading scripture. And that’s why our ancestors were burned when they owned a Bible, you know, because the church didn’t want people to figure it out for themselves. Right. And it’s still that case now.

Well, the Bible has so many good messages in it. If you actually followed a lot of those messages. It also has some holdovers though, too, right? I mean, if you read what Jesus said, you can tell that some of this stuff isn’t. I mean, it’s inconsistent. Well, that’s why, you know, there was a thing that happened back in the 90s, and there was a hundred scholars that got together in Chicago and they went through Scripture and based on a lot of analysis, they figured out what’s the difference between a saying that probably came from Jesus and something that was attributed to him later.

Because the Bible went through a lot of editing, the church with a lot of stuff, they found only about 12% of the words of Jesus likely came from the man Yeshua wandering around Galilee. Right. And, and the simpler the saying, the more likely it is because don’t forget, it wasn’t written down originally. These were passed around word of mouth. Oh yeah, this guy Yeshua said this. Something like the kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed that’s likely to have come from his lips. But the whole story of him being born in Bethlehem, you know, and, and then moved up to Nazareth, all that is a narrative that the church stuck in later because they had to show that he was descended from David.

You know, it was like theology coming in and changing the, the story. So you know, it. You know, did you ever play the game of gossip when you were a kid? You sit in a circle and you say something once to the person next to you. By the time it gets around, it’s totally different. That’s the history of Christianity. Every time they hear something, it’s changed, you know, so how do we know it’s genuine? Well, your heart resonates with the truth. It’s like common law. When you sit on a jury, you know what’s right and wrong.

You know the truth of something just at a gut level. And you know that too when you open scripture, hey, this sounds like the man Jesus. That doesn’t. Right. So you got to kind of discern for yourself and, and, and figure it out for yourself. And, and I think that that’s what God gave us a mind for to reason. Reason is not against faith. Well, but, but it’s so offensive to so many people that if you question any, I mean, I’ve had people, you know, anything in the scripture is, is by God, you know, like that was motivated by God or what do you call it? It was inspired by God.

And so you shouldn’t question anything in the scripture because, I mean, that’s the messaging. And so when you do have a brain, you start to question things. They, that’s the other side of the serpent comes out and shuts you down. Oh yeah. Well, you know, people do that when they, they don’t want to think. But here’s an example, like they call it biblical literalism. You have to believe in every word literally. It’s not a symbol. Okay. It’s literally true. So I say to them, well, Jesus in the Gospel of John says, I am the vine. So Jesus was a literal vine, was he? He said, this is my body and blood.

Oh, you want to literally eat the flesh of Christ? No, he was talking in a symbol. As a metaphor, as a symbol for something bigger and more fundamental. Right. So you can’t literally inter. Just read it. It’s a silly to do that. You’re missing the bigger message and the big idea. The name of my company is called the Big Idea. We restructured our stuff, and then I sarah my media companies under that. But me and my husband, we call it the big idea for a reason, because that’s the point is look at what is the big idea of all of this.

And you. Yeah, I love it. So, okay, let’s talk about the current Vatican and tie it back into this whole historical thing. I mean, what is going on right now? I know you’re trying to get the message out this. These guys aren’t what you think people. And, and you’re, you’re sharing that. This, this guy’s kind of a bad guy. But it gets back into the same story that we’ve been telling this whole time. They don’t even let good people become. Get the option of becoming a Pope. Now, how did a. An American citizen this time become the Pope? That’s never been.

Well, he’s not actually within the College of Cardinals, this Robert Prevost, who’s Now Leo the 14th or whatever he was. He’s called the second Latin American Pope after Bergoglio, the guy who just died because. Yeah, he was born in Chicago and raised there briefly, but he got ordained in Rome. He immediately became a missionary with the Augustinians off to Peru, and he spent his whole time. Oh, okay. I miss you for a second. What did you say? You cut out. He spent his whole time had very little to do with it. Hold on. Start over. You said he spent his whole time.

You totally cut out there for like 20 seconds and I’ll cut this part out. He was. He was born in Chicago, raised there briefly. He came to Rome, was ordained a priest, and then joined the missionaries, the Augustinian missionaries, and went to South America, where he lived in Peru, very closely tied to Bergoglio, who, when he was the member, the guy who died. Jorge Begolio Francis. He was friends with the Argentine military, you know, they. Who were killing their own people in that. This guy Prevost was tied into that whole network. And what’s interesting is where he worked on the.

On the Pacific Coast. It’s where China is coming in in a big way now. He made arrangements to help the Chinese. So remember how Francis went over. Bergoglio went to Canada to sign a deal with the Chinese to use the Vatican bank to underwrite what they’re doing. Prevost did the same thing in South America. He was like the mirror image of what Bergoglio did in. In North America to ensure the Chinese take over these areas. So it’s about big money. They’ve got a pro Chinese pope in again for the world’s bank deposits. Right. And. And so now it’s.

It always comes down to that. So they put in a safe guy again, but also someone very tied into the ninth circle. And this is going to blow up in their face because we have now three eyewitnesses who come forward, including a former member of this cult who saw him at these. At these ceremonies. Right. The ninth circle isn’t very much known to people. What is the ninth circle? So people have a better idea because you keep talking about how these. All of them have been involved with this ninth circle. What is the ninth circle? Well, I think we’ve talked about in previous interviews.

It’s named after the 9C. Yeah. The nine circles of hell in that Dante’s Inferno. Dante was a poet, Italian poet, kind of an insider with the Vatican as well. And he said at the center of hell is Satan at the ninth level, and with him is people who betray sacred trust, like the trust of a child. This was set up by the Jesuits in the 1500s as a way to control popes and cardinals, in that the blackmail people. It’s a ritual whereby children, usually the firstborn of a cult member, they sacrifice their firstborn, like, quote, God did Jesus.

Right? And they ritually torture, rape and kill them, cut them up, eat their body and drink their blood. It’s a ritual. And they will often entrap politicians and judges in that by inviting them to a dinner. And then suddenly they’re in this thing. We have two eyewitnesses, Tos Nienhaus and Anne Marie Van Bienberg. That happened to. Although Tost was born into the cult, it’s a huge cult operating off the radar. It goes by different names, but that’s essentially what it is. Every pope who’s elected since at least 1870 has to be a member of this cult.

And we know that from a source. And this is another thing that we’ve uncovered. There’s an actual log journal in the Vatican archives that has a list of all these people. Well then yeah. No. Well, it’s going to be submitted the court case, we’re beginning again. The same court that force Ratzinger out of office in 2013. It’s reconvene, it’s looking into this and it’s gonna next week they’re opening their case and they’re gonna. They have these sources who said they’ve got written evidence of this ninth circle and the President Prevost’s involvement in it. So this is some of the evidence they’re turning up already.

Well, some of the central bankers have come out. There’s been some central banker whistleblowers over the years who say that they’re part of the central bankers are part of this cult. Is it the same cult? It has branches like in Canada on the West coast. It’s called a 12 mile club because the 12 miles of territorial limit of Canada, they take children and others outside on yachts, do whatever they want to them, dump their bodies overboard in international waters. They have different names and there was a guy, as a matter of fact, here’s another thing about the President, Pope Robert Prevost.

He’s friends with a guy from Lansing, Michigan called William Auth a U T H. You can look him up. He’s an open child trafficker. He has pictures of him and Mayan children because he worked with the present Pope in Guatemala for a while at this thing called Mayan Missions Incorporated. They trafficked Mayan Indian children. There’s a picture of William Arthur’s at hand around and I sent you the link to this newsletter. He’s. He’s sitting with the Mayan boy saying he’s not my latest lover, but he’s a good friend. Like he’s joking about the lovers he has among these children.

And you know, these are open networks that operate and they should be shut down. But they’re the Catholic Church, so they’re above. They’ve got their own legal system and I talk about that in here, in every country. The Catholic Church stands outside the law of the land. They’re like a. They’re immune. They’re a foreign power. They’re a foreign power. When their children are raped, they’re tried and everyone is silenced. They’re not to be told. It’s a standing policy. The police are not to be told. That’s violating American law and sovereignty. It’s an act of war. Normally when you violate someone’s sovereignty like that with your own system within Their own country, country that’s, that’s waging war against.

Not to mention it violates everything that they teach. It’s like everything they teach you publicly, it violates everything, which is incredible. Every president goes along with it. It’s like politics. You know how I said there’s, you got to be on a. On a red list to become pope? It’s the same way with politicians. You know, if you’re on the list, you’re okay, you can be elected. But if you’re on a black list, there’s no way you’re ever going to get in. So, I mean, it’s arranged that way behind the scenes and, and voting and all that stuff and going to church.

That’s all for the masses, to keep them stupid and fighting each other. But, I mean, you know, behind the scenes, this is central control, and these cults are part of that. Right. Well, let’s end this on a hopeful note. Like, how do we get around this? And. And how do we just create? We don’t have to be like, when I grew up, I was. Didn’t know I was part of that. We can create environments not part of this, that are different. So let’s talk about hopeful, how humanity can move forward in a way that is not this.

And then we just create spaces that are what it’s meant to be. Well, I’m glad you said that, because that’s really a big thrust of what we do. A lot of the time, we do it on different levels. I mean, like the common law assemblies and courts we’ve set up to get people to take power in their own name to stop these things, because the system is not going to do it spiritually. I work with groups all over the world who have their own spiritual communities. They withdraw, they try to get the children out of the cities, back on the land.

We have a whole network of people working on that and, you know. Murderbydecree.com republicofcanada.org that’s the theme of this book and this other one I wrote recently, Governing Ourselves. This is a handbook on sovereignty. Personal, political, spiritual sovereignty. How it comes about, urge people to get this. They’re all on Amazon. But you got to take action in your community because that’s where you know people. That’s where you. You can best create these alternatives. It’s the only way things are going to change. Because the problem now is people are always looking to somebody to do it for them.

And we’ve been raised that way in a state of dependency. But. But the message of Jesus is always don’t forget it’s within you. Right? That’s right. That’s where it begins and that’s where it should, should always start. That’s right. It’s in a message of empowerment. So. Well, okay, where can people find you? You have your radio show twice a month. Where can they find you? Where can they listen to you? June 1st is the next show. Bbsradio.com radiofree canada k a n A T A at hold on, trying to remember it’s a noon Eastern time which would be well 11 Central Time and 1st and 3rd Sunday River Month.

And also I mentioned those websites murderbydecree.com republicofcanada.org I met Angelfire 101@protonmail.com if you want to write to me. And I’m on speaking to her in, in August, September, I’m going around North America again, but then over to Europe to help the court case against this present guy in Rome, Robert Prevost. But also I urge people, if you know people going to the Catholic Church, we have flyers to hand them saying look, when you put money in the collection plate, you’re funding a transnational criminal organization. It launders money for the mafia, it traffics children. It’s involved in these heinous crimes.

Do not fund this church. I’ve talked to Catholic priests who split off. They’ve left the church and set up their own congregation. I think that’s what you have to do, start again. You know. Well my, my father in law was a deacon in the Catholic Church and they, there’s so much they all, all of his people, they all, they all separated once they figured out how political what was happening. His circle, he’s no longer, you know, with us. But it, it’s just too much if you actually believe in what you are. You know, if you walk what you’re talk walking what you’re talking and authentic to the teachings.

You can’t endorse this. No, that’s right. And your conscience, the life of a child is more important than all the churches in the world. And that’s what we have to remember all the time and don’t compromise that. So just be human, in other words. Right. That’s right. So. Well, thank you so much, Kevin, for joining the program. I really appreciate it it. Sure, sir. Anytime. Sam.
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