Child Trafficking Rescuer Speaks out!

➡ Ray, a child trafficking rescuer, shares his experiences and journey in combating human trafficking. He started by helping troubled youth and later discovered the global scale of this multi-billion dollar criminal enterprise. His first encounter with trafficking was when he saved a young girl from being sold by a gang member. Over time, he got more involved, trained with veterans for Child Rescue, and now runs his own operations to rescue victims and raise awareness about this issue.
➡ The text discusses the serious issue of child trafficking and exploitation, emphasizing the importance of public awareness and action. It encourages people to report suspicious activities to organizations like the Association for the Recovery of Children and Veterans for Child Rescue. The text also highlights the role of law enforcement, despite being understaffed, in combating this issue. Lastly, it underscores the importance of long-term healing programs for victims and the need for everyone to play a part in stopping this crime.
➡ The speaker is urging people to consider providing temporary housing for children in need, particularly those escaping dangerous situations like cults. They mention the importance of everyone getting involved in some way to combat child trafficking, whether it’s providing a safe home, learning to recognize signs of trafficking, or supporting organizations like the Association for the Recovery of Children. They also share personal experiences of intervening in suspicious situations and stress the importance of working with legitimate organizations.
➡ The speaker warns about the dangers of human trafficking and the importance of verifying the legitimacy of organizations claiming to provide safe housing. They emphasize the need for community involvement, even small actions like sending emails to legislators, to combat this issue. They also share personal experiences of helping homeless people and attempting to rescue victims of trafficking, highlighting the complexities and risks involved. The speaker encourages everyone to be vigilant and proactive in their communities to help prevent human trafficking.
➡ The text discusses the dangers of manipulation and exploitation, including instances of abduction and trafficking. It emphasizes the importance of trusting your intuition when something feels off and encourages people to speak up if they see something suspicious. It also highlights the need for awareness and self-protection, particularly for teenagers and young adults. The text ends by promoting an upcoming event aimed at raising awareness and providing solutions to these issues.
➡ The text emphasizes the importance of staying alert and protecting oneself and children from potential dangers. It encourages people to educate themselves and their children about safety measures, and to trust their intuition when they feel threatened. The speaker also calls for collective action against those who harm children, asking for their accountability. Lastly, it urges people to get involved in child protection initiatives, whether through funding or other means.

Sure. All of you guys have heard about the Epstein files and we have a child trafficking rescuer today going to be talking to us about more about what has been going on under our noses. Ray, thank you so much for joining me. Thank you. Thank you. It’s great to be here. This topic is really challenging for a lot of people and it’s, it’s mainly because we have. If you’re a human being, a true human being, you actually have a heart and you cannot. Like for myself, I couldn’t fathom the amount of evil that is in this world.

And when we start to get stories like this, it really does something to the psyche because it’s, it’s hard to really fathom. But you’ve been doing this work for a very long time. So I’d love to hear how you got started in this. What was the impetus to get you to become a rescuer and how long do you think this has been going on? Well, first of all, it’s been going on, it’s really as long as humanity’s existed really in some form of another. I mean, because if you boil it all down, I mean it’s, it’s human slavery, you know, in, in, in every, in every way.

And so I, you know, I’ve always had a heart for the underserved, you know, it seems and have always looked for, you know, an angle to be in that position to make a difference in, in people’s lives. And it started with youth with me actually. And as far as, you know, trafficking goes, I wasn’t, I didn’t know a lot about it. I was around it and I experienced it, but didn’t know that it was such, it was worldwide. I did not know that it was a multi billion dollar criminal enterprise, you know, and I was in youth ministry.

My first experience with this actually. And I had, you know, God would use me to reach really kids that were rejected from society a lot, but they would be drawn to me and I to them and that’s the way it was. And so as a youth pastor, my first experience was a member, a gang member actually of a, of a mainstream gang in part of North Carolina that became a part of our, our youth at church. And it was a great beginning with him and his brother as well. But he did get back involved in the game and gang and began recruiting in the youth ministry that, that I was in charge of.

There was a young girl who started coming there as well and even start grooming them. He was grooming them with gifts and he was what was Called a set king. And so he could call the shots, tell somebody in that gang, hey, I need five pairs of sneakers or something like that. And so he was grooming through gifts with, with the young boys and the young girls in there. One of the girls ran away from her home. They were not able to find her. And I got a tip that his name was, let’s call him Jay.

And I got a tip that that’s where the young lady had been and that he was going to be taking her to Atlanta to sell her. And this was in. This was probably like 1996, 97, somewhere around there. And sure enough, based upon the tips, we were able to confront him at the last stop he was making before he headed to Atlanta. And we had called the police too there. And we got out, you know, to stop them. He actually attempted to run over me. He was in the car, I was outside and. But he threw the car in reverse and as fast as he could go, but he was going at the dead end of a street doing that.

He didn’t know it. So he got arrested, of course. And so that was my first eye opening experience with that. And, you know, I just thought, well, someday if I get time, I want to kind of get more into this as an advocate. You know, I never thought I’d be in this at the level that I was. So years later, this is too, after adopting, taking in a boy that was 14 who had been severely abused, groomed. He had five stepfathers by the time he was 14, you know, and he was on his way to a juvenile prison after he had just had enough and was going into a fit of rage and they were just going to throw him away.

And I had met this boy at a camp, and so the guy in charge of that camp called me one day. He said, I’ve got to lay something on you and you’ve got to. I’ve got to have the answer kind of like now. And so he had talked to the judge and asked, if I know a guy that’ll take him in and the mother will sign rights over to him, would you let him go instead of the prison? And the judge was like, who you gonna find to do that? So long story short, I just said, okay, I’ll do it.

And two days later I went, got it. And so he is 43 now and a very successful young man. And what he endured was just. Was just unreal. So years go by and I just thought, well, I’ll get involved in this. I’ll hand out brochures at Community events and, you know, just to get the word out. I was looking for something to do to just volunteer on a Saturday or something like that. And so the more I knew about it, the more I got involved, I just felt like I can’t be satisfied at this level. And I was watching, I was watching videos on YouTube with veterans for Child Rescue.

I’m a Navy veteran, so I thought, well, I’ll start there. And Craig Sawyer, who’s the founder of that, was doing an interview with Basil Boz, the, the founder of the association for the Recovery of Children, who was starting a training program to train people how to run their own operations, investigations, do trainings and get involved at that level, and to do rescues, put teams together and do rescues. So I just decided to go and God just started opening doors for me, bottom line after that. And that’s how I met Awakened Bold. And, you know, I was blown away by it, really.

I’d gone to this training and which, you know, there’s no other training like that. And if anybody wants to ever get involved at this level, that’s the training you need to go to. And that’s association for the Recovery of Children. And so the doors just started to swing open. That’s how I met Awaken Bold. And they had contacted me. They were. They were doing an event where Baso Boss with Recovery of Children, was going to be there as a speaker. And he’s a former CIA agent, retired Marine Corps counterterrorism expert, and also he was a co actor on the Blacklist on Netflix.

If anybody like, like this, it’s a great, great series. And I was going to say Blacklist? Yeah, the Blacklist, yeah, it’s a great, great series. And I was going to set up a table there with information for awareness, you know, to get the word out more. And I was a strategic partner at that time too, and volunteer with Veterans for Child Rescue. So I was setting up, you know, information with, you know, for them too. And so I’m a strategic partner with them both now. And so ended up Boss was not gonna be able to make it and asked me if they asked me if I would stand in for.

For him. My first answer was absolutely not. My gosh, they’re looking for Basil Boz, not Brian Prather, you know, a former actor. You know, his resume is very impressive and he’s a warrior. I mean, he’s been downrange more than, you know, the average. The average veteran and just an amazing man. He and his wife are just awesome people. And. But I ended up doing it. And it worked. It worked out okay. One thing led to the other. After, after these town hall type events that Awaken Bold puts on which one is coming up in March as well, it always opens up another door.

And so I began to get calls on tips, people that were concerned there was trafficking going on in the Asheville area. And the first one I got actually ended up being a human slavery operation that was operating out of a home. And there were two large vans that were picking up Asians out of this home. And they had those bedrooms piled with, you know, they’re picking up about 30 people twice, you know, once a day and bring early in the morning and bringing them back late at night. And they were working in a. In restaurants. And so that ended up getting dealt with through a task force from a detective that we had contacted.

And one thing that’s common when people do call is that they don’t want police involved at all. They want their. They don’t want their name involved in it. And, and so we’ve been able to protect that. You know, once, once the right people get a hold of it to shut it down, you know, they’re concerned. Their concerns mainly are for the victims and taking down the people who are responsible for this, you know, so, you know, that works out. Not all of the tips work out to be something, to be legit, but we’re glad that they call.

You know, if you think you see it, make the call. You know, let us let people that are trained to do this determine whether it’s legit or not. You know, who would they call? Well, I would call association for the Recovery of Children. That’s who I would look up and call. Okay, Veterans for Child Rescue. And also, I mean, if you see something going on right there, you know, right away, of course, call 91 1, you know, use that too. You know, most law enforcement wants to do something about this. I know people have a. You know, the media doesn’t do us any favors when it comes to law enforcement, but the majority of the ones that I meet are sincere.

They want to do more. Now law enforcement is, I mean, they are under. They understaffed and in some ways untrained because they are understaffed. But, you know, doesn’t mean they, you know, don’t care. They’ve been very helpful, you know, with, with me and, and with others. And so we try to develop relationships, you know, with, with law enforcement too. But I have to say, you know, the vast majority will do everything they can to take a predator down and to save a victim. And that’s when we can come in as well and get that person on a path to become a survivor and not just be left off as a victim.

And that’s part of, you know, what we do as well. We have contacts, safe housing, long term healing path. Particular program that I like the best, that I use the most. I’ve been able to help place seven women in, in the these places. And it’s, you know, two year live a residential program. And you know, they do it right. It’s not something that you can heal from, you know, going someplace for 30 days and. Yeah, and so that’s, that’s part of the process too. And it, it’s something that just continues to, you know, increase when that kind of money is involved.

I mean it is pay, it’s pay to play. Now especially with the Epstein, that model of trafficking kick things way up on the financial, on the financial board. The average pimp if has four girls, four ladies. And look, there’s boys involved in this too and males, they’re doing this right? Those four rotating and doing what they do. That pimp is averaging $2 million a year. Then that’s tax free. That’s tax free money as well. I mean the criminal enterprise is estimated at $152 million now. 52 billion, I mean 52 billion of that is from the United States.

We’re the largest purchasers of that. We’re the largest purchaser of that. We’re the largest producers of porn. And also minutes spent searching porn all in the United States. We, we lead all of that. And porn is a huge fuel for all of this and the money. If there’s a request out there, it doesn’t matter what that request is for. There’s somebody that will, that will provide that request, which I mean includes ages all the way down to infants. The increase for younger, it continues to grow. The increase for young boys continues to grow and it’s not.

Yeah, it’s not slowing down, you know, one bit. Do you think there’s an answer to how to fix this? Because I absolutely agree in that one documentary name is escaping me. That movie that was out, that was the disclosed, a lot of this literally said that the United States is the largest purchaser of this issue. This. Yeah. Demon. I think it’s, I think it’s demons. I think we don’t understand this world. And because you’re right, people who, who have hearts, we cannot fathom the absolute evil that’s been taking place right under our nose. Like I said earlier, do you think there’s an answer to how to stop this? Because this has been going on, I think since the beginning of time, since the humans were humans and.

Yeah, since we do. You haven’t. Do you think there’s an answer to how to fix this? Because it is prevalent and I think it’s also part of the brainwashing of, of people. Like, I was watching something on. There was a cartoon on Netflix and I looked at it and it was the devil’s daughter runs this hotel. And I was like, what are they showing children? And I watched it for one episode and I couldn’t believe it because they had this little child, this cartoon, red headed, freckled little boy who was horny. And I was like, oh my gosh.

And the amount of things they had in this cartoon was not for children. It was, it was. And it shouldn’t even be for, it shouldn’t be for adults. It should not have been on at all. But that kind of grooming is what we’re dealing with, is what we’re dealing with. So. Yeah. What would you say to that? Well, you, you bring up a good point. With media, it is desensitized. It has desensitized us so much that. Okay, yeah, it’s important. It’s a big deal. But is it personally a big deal? Is it a big deal to everyone personally? No, you know, it’s not.

People can. Will look the other way too easy on this. Often I use the phrase stop unseeing it, you know, a lot. And the first. That’s what we have to do is to stop unseeing this. It, it’s going on every community, neighborhood, every demographic. It’s going on at the very core. Yes, it is demonic. It is satanic, it is gross beyond our imaginations or beyond what anybody else would think. I talk to people all the time that say, oh, I had no idea that was going on around here. Well, yeah, I mean, it does and it is.

How do we stop it? I think, you know, let’s talk about, let’s talk about rescue, for instance, that, that word rescue and then we see on the movies and the films and that’s great if it, if it increases an awareness, you know, or something like that. But rescue is not just the end result. It’s not just that final step where that person has been brought out and they’re free from that now and we can get on with their new life and a path of healing. It starts first by getting involved at some level and doing something.

You know, I Started out wanting to pass out brochures at trade shows or whatever, you know, just to set up that matters. You know, that’s, that starts too. You don’t have to be boots on the ground, but, you know, there’s a big need for boots on the ground as well. Awareness is one thing, but awareness doesn’t save anybody. It’s, you know, it’s like the movies. That, that’s great. But I would say for the majority of people that went and saw that movie, they, they felt great, they saw that movie, they, you know, had a new level of knowledge about it.

But what did that translate to? Yeah, exactly. Basel Bosman brought up a good point in an interview that, that he, and he brought up, remember the milk cartons? When they would put missing children on the, on the milk cartons. And so, you know, we buy those, we buy that milk because it’s got the missing child on it. And, you know, that makes me feel, that makes us feel good, you know, about that. But has ever led to a child being found and rescued? No, you know, it has not. There’s no evidence of that. So awareness in and of itself, you know, it’s not it.

And just like thinking of rescue as a whole big package or that final step is being, you know, part of, you know. Well, that’s just it. That’s the whole thing. Well, it’s not what, thinking of one child, if you can, if you can get in the way and stop one child, one woman, one boy, one man from being, being caught up in this, in a lot of cases just lose their life. That’s. That’s the last time they live, you know, and their, their lifespans about seven years in that. But if you can get in the way, just in some way, you know, step in the way.

I’m not sure what my boy’s life would have been like had I not. But I know what it’s like because I did. And really, I had no clue what I was doing. People told me I was crazy. I’m taking in this boy that’s going to be going. That was on his way to a juvenile prison. And at 14, this boy never gave me a bit of trouble. I mean, not a bit. He just, he wanted to be loved. He needed somebody and he absorbed every bit of it. He blessed me more than, more than, Than he got for me.

He gave me just as much. And, you know, can you, can you take in a child? Are you, are you, are you available to take in a child? Can you, can your home be a safe place for someone that we may need temporary housing for. I have a friend that’s done that and we were able to provide that for, for a mother and her child who had been brought up in a very sick sexual satanic cult. Children of God Cult. Actually it’s the name of it, go figure. What is it? Children of God Children. Children of God Cult.

Yeah. And back there, which God? Which God? That’s the question. Exactly. Well, they, they claim the same one that evangelicals would worship, but of course it’s not. And so they are, they are safe now. And were they actually ended up needing to leave the country, which they did. But so there was a, you know, a person in North Carolina that has her place set up to where she can accommodate that. It’s not something she does all the time, but if the situation is right, she does. So can you. You know, they’re retired single people, retired couples, females that can take in other, you know, females and it’s, it’s a safe place for them.

Can you do that? You know, that matters, that that’s part of the whole package too. It doesn’t have to be. Well, I’ve got to get in, involved in this and be able to go and, and do rescues. Rescues are not just, you know, going and storming a door, you know, down and you know, getting in there, you know, an undercover operation, you know, and all of that. That’s not the only, you know, kind that happens. And of course they’re, they’re all necessary, but getting involved at some level is how we begin to stop. Continues to grow.

It’s growing faster than people that are getting involved in this. And so, you know, we need, we need help at every level. So if somebody’s able to help. Tell me that website again. I went to look it up. Association for. You can look up recoveryofchildren.org recovery of children or recoveryofchildren.com either one. So you guys, this is where to go. And this is association for the Recovery of Children. Yes, and that’s the. They have a training schedule there. They’re in Dallas this week, I think. And that’s if that is the. Well, it’s, it’s only training like that.

That’s where I would get involved. If you’re going to do training, you know, you can also look up your, in your, in your state, your local area, just, you know, Google search for anti trafficking organizations and get involved at a local level if you can. But as far as training goes, this is the place to go right here and listen, if there’s a need for a rescue. A team can be put together and deploy very fast to anywhere, you know, in the United States. They’ve also done some, they’ll do some internationally as well. And these are all volunteers.

A lot of veterans involved in this work as well, but non veterans too. You don’t have to be a veteran, anybody. There’s women and men involved in this. In fact, there’s some women that, that are doing incredible work in this, especially Boz’s wife Tina. They just doing incredible work and have been at this since I think like 1993 somewhere around there. And that’s the. And that’s. Yeah, that’s long. And he had actually his story. He had actually got burdened for this when was in on the Black Hawk down operation, actually. You remember the movie Blackhawk Down? Yeah.

And so during that operation they discovered a couple of girls that were, you know, they’re in a situation where they’re, you know, pinned down there actually. So they were able to find these girls after they did their mission in that operation and were able to get them to an orphanage. That’s where he discovered what a problem this was and never looked back. And so they, that’s how association for the Recovery of Children got started. And then Veterans for Child Rescue, they, they do a lot of sting operations right now too. And they are out of Arizona.

Craig Sawyer was a former SEAL Team 6 member who founded that. And they also. And deploy teams, you know, for rescues and, and there’s a lot of information on both of these. They’ve been very instrumental in helping me. And once you go through the training with, with arc. Arc, that’s what we call them. You go through training with them, you become part of a network of teams that you can, you can get the help that you need anywhere that, that it’s needed. And like I say, they’ll ARC especially can deploy a team really fast. Very experienced people, people that have been down range and, and so.

Yeah, no, no. Who to call. Reach out to learn the signs. Learn the sign. You can look at this, look at the recovery of children’s website and just study the signs. The more you study, if you study the signs enough, you’re going to recognize something somewhere when you’re out in public. What are some of the signs? Here’s a good example. I’ve got a few actually. An older, an elderly man, white elderly man at a bus stop with a young Hispanic kid. Man and a boy. That, that looks odd. I was doing security in a parking lot one time.

There was a Pickup truck parked. I walked over to see it’s a private property. I was asked to look, to keep an eye on that property. And so there, there’s a man in the pickup truck with a young boy. There they were, they were not the same race. Asked him if I could help him. He said he’s just trying to get hooked up to the Internet. That’s a lie. And he began to drive off. And so, yeah, I got police. I got police on the, on the phone. I don’t know if they ended up pulling the guy over.

He was able to get away from me. The ones at the bus stop, I call police, but I have, so I have personal. I have officers that I have a relationship with. I have their cell phone number. If I call them or something like that, they’re going to try to get on it. You know, the outcome of that, either one of those, I don’t really know. But I made the call. I was in a parking lot at a mall. When I was actually across the street from the mall parking lot. I hear a really loud scream that didn’t sound right and I heard it again.

So I just, I drove across the road over to the parking lot. There’s a young lady being drugged by her hair and forced into a car. This is happening while other people are watching. There are other people that actually just watched this happen. Nobody tried to intervene. And there was a guy that yells at me telling me, somebody needs to do something, you know, why aren’t you my first thought. So, of course I get on the phone right away. 9, 1 1. I threw my car in park real quick because I was going to intervene. And so he takes off.

Well, I followed him. I followed him. He tried to lose me through parking lots, everything he could to lose me. And so I just stayed, I stayed with him with the police on the line. They’re trying to talk me into backing off. And I was like, that’s not going to happen, you know, so. And you don’t have to do that. If you’re following somebody and you saw that happen, you don’t have to back off. You stay with them, you know, don’t hurt yourself or somebody else, but do what you can to stay with them as much as if you can.

And I was able to do that with. Without endangering anyone. And so they ended, they did end up getting them pulled over several police cars. They, they. The first one was a female officer. She got out and man, she did her job and she took action. And so, yeah, they, they had him surrounded and you know, he got out of that car too. There was also an infant in that car. He took an infant out of the backseat. I had told them, I backed off. They told me to. They said, now you really need to back office it.

Okay, I am, but I really did at a little bit of a distance, but they did their job. Again, I don’t know the outcome of all that. So when I get involved, I just want to disappear. You know, I’ve done my job. I don’t need any recognition or anything like that. And you want to be careful with that. You don’t do this alone. There are some out there that rogue warriors claiming they’re doing a lot and they really aren’t. You want to, you want to be aware of that. There are organizations that are taking in a lot of money that are, that are non profits saying that they’re doing a lot.

And they aren’t many that claim they have safe housing. They don’t. There was a situation with Boz and Tina. Tina had rescued a girl out of, I believe it was Orange County, California. She had contacted 42 places, I think it was, who claimed to provide safe housing. She visited every one of those and not a single one of those had safe housing. And so you want to be careful who you’re getting involved with. Even if, if you, you Google your search at a local area where you live and you want to, you want to verify what they, you know, what they say they.

They are doing. And you know, because they literally went to 40 all. All of those and not a single one, you know, had those. So, you know, be mindful of where you are. Yeah. Where you’re sending that to. And then with, you know, the, the money, the movie that that had come out, you know, people started wanting to help in some way. Yeah. And then all of a sudden you’ve got organizations popping up everywhere all of a sudden. Well, we’re doing this for it and gotta really be. Be careful with that. These two organizations I gave you are, you know, are legit.

And yeah, they pretty legit right there. And then also, yeah, there’s the. I want to share the. And you guys, I am at a farm, so we do have chickens. But this is awake. Awake and Bold event that’s happening. And this is happening March 7th and 8th and it is in Hendersonville, North Carolina. Yes. So you guys can go to Awaken bold dot org. Yeah, they are wonderful website. Yeah, yeah, you know, go ahead. You’re gonna have Kathy O’ Brien there. Yes, 107 is going to Be there and some other people, A lot of other people are going to be there and I think they’re going to have me zooming in for my book, the Death of Freedom.

Yes, you are. Explain what’s, what’s happening with America and how to save it. How to save it is exactly what you’re saying. Get involved. Yeah, get involved. Even if it’s sending just an email to your legislation legislator. Yeah, I was going to get to that too. Yeah, it matters. Yeah, yeah. Call them, send them emails, you know, write them letters. We need that. That’s all a part of it too. Every little part that you can get involved, even if, if it’s just a small part. That small part is huge because that small part is a step that leads to, you know, to the, to the large parts, you know that, you know that, that we can do.

A lot of small parts is the foundation. We have to have a foundation. That’s right. Yeah. Melissa’s trying to call in on me now. Is my screen still right? Yeah, you’re still good. Okay. Yeah. Let me speak to Awaken Bold too about them. They, they are amazing. Listen, I’ve never met a group of, of women this, this committed to the cause. I owe a lot to them as well. They, they got me started. I wouldn’t have gone, I wouldn’t have been able to intervene in a lot of lives that I’ve been able to intervene had it not been for them too.

Because that’s where calls have come in and tips and then I, I do other things to, to, to get involved in the community out there. I’ve developed relationships with, with drug dealers out there, homeless people that, that can be very resourceful and what’s going on in the area where I live at and you know, it’s a, it’s amazing what, what, what a fast food meal from McDonald’s or, or cookout will, you know, will get me sometimes. And my experience with homeless people has, has really been, been beneficial, you know, to me and. Yeah, well, they’re, they’re kind of the unseen force, you know.

Yeah, yeah, they see everything. They see a lot of things people don’t really take. They do give them. Yeah, you’re right. And there’s, there’s a lot of trafficking going on there and some of them. And I’ve helped a couple of ladies off, get off of the street that, that were in there because of just going. Especially during the winter when it’s, the temperature is dropping below freezing. I’ll keep jackets in my car, hand warmers A sack lunch or something like that. And it’s amazing. What, amazing what? One simple question. When’s the last time you ate, you know, had something to eat? That’s, that’s been the most important question, the most effective question that has worked for me.

Most of the time that starts a tear down the face and so I’m able to get something to eat, get them something to eat. I try to get them something warm to eat when, when that happens, that’s really led to a couple of very significant rescues and some, and there are some that just fall apart too. And I’ll tell you about one of those. Where we were, we were set up to do this rescue would have been in downtown area. So the pimple is dropping one of his girls off at the methadone clinic, you know, to get to take care of her.

They control them a lot by drugs, you know, the addiction. And then they take care of them too. You know, a smart pimp is really going to take care of their girls, keep them looking good if he really wants to make, you know, a lot of money. He was also paying the mortgage on her mother’s home as well. So, you know, in total control of this. There were no police called, you know, not from any of us. But as far as we knew, she had only talked to me and one other lady and so we made the arrangements.

I put it together to pick her up at the methadone clinic because he was dropping her off. Somehow somebody got tipped off. He did, somebody tipped him off, we don’t know who. And it may have been through, I don’t know, voice tap somehow, don’t know. But she called and had to call it off. He, you know, he found out and he beat her, you know, really bad. And so yeah, we had to call it off. I’ve never been able to speak to her again. So, you know, I don’t know what happened. Traffickers, the cartels, mainstream gangs there are very tech savvy.

They don’t all, they’re not all tattooed up and look like a lot of them. They look like me or you. You know, that’s right. Women, especially women are getting, are involved in grooming and they are, they’re very, very clever. Very good. I’ve had two situations where these girls, one was a teenager, the other one is, was an adult lady. Their best, like their best friends tricked them into getting trafficked. The 15 year old was able to not stake this house out for a few nights. I knew I was on the right house based upon the tips that I was getting and everything lined up, but I was still never able to put eyes on the girl.

Even though we know she’s in that house now. Well, so why don’t we get police and go storm that house? You know, here’s the problem. If she’s not in that house, she’s somewhere else. Okay. So. And I thought about going to the door as a pizza delivery person. I was gonna go buy a pizza, you know, and I’ll go to the door and see if she’s in there. They open the door, maybe I can see her or something and just tell them I have the wrong address. So importantly, in doing this work, because like I mentioned before, you know, people that claim to just be rogue and on their own and taking this down, it’s not wise.

You’ve got to have a team. You don’t do this by yourself. No. So it’s very dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. So I called somebody and said, you know, should I do this? Absolutely not. One mistake, you get that girl killed or that boy, whoever it is, you know, and because they’re that ruthless. They really are. Yeah. They don’t care. Yeah. And so, you know, Paul didn’t do that. So they were, they were moving this girl from this house to a hotel. Red roof in. Red roof ends are popular for this. So I tried to see if I could put eyes on her at the red roof in as well.

I just never could put eyes on her. Fortunately, she was able, she was able to walk away. And state police saw her on, on the highway and picked her up. And she was good, you know, she actually, she actually rescued herself. She walked out. She was able to walk away. Yeah. The other one was just a couple of months ago. This is an adult lady now. That teenager was tricked out by her friends saying, hey, meet us up the street. We got cigarettes. You know, they were going to smoke some cigarettes and they had a. There was a mainstream gang member that was part of, who picked.

Picked them all up. And they were actually going to sell her to a cartel in, in California, in la, Orange County. So, yeah, she was smart enough to get away. The other situation was an adult lady, 33 years old, her best friend for years, hey, you want to meet me and my boyfriend and, you know, just go hang out kind of thing. And they trapped her in a hotel. So for some, well, it’s kind of a hotel set up. But for some reason they, they weren’t thinking. They’re going to go to the store, they said, and pick some stuff up.

You wait here kind of Thing. Well, she didn’t wait there, you know. So if that’s, you know, if that’s ever you, you’re somebody that’s listening to this. You see a way to get out. You get out. You get out and you run to somebody as quick as you can. You make lots of noise and get some help. Don’t think that you have to stay trapped there. These people are very clever. They’re brainwashed. Manipulative. Yeah. Manipulative, yeah. Trust your guided intuition. That’s what I always say. So if you’re feeling something’s off, it’s off. Yeah, you are. Yeah.

And that’s just one form of that. Then there’s the professional type, grooming too. There’s the boyfriends that will. Will get. Have. Have their girlfriend. They groom their girlfriend and set them up, you know, for this whole thing. They’ll videotape them, you know, having sex and then use that sextortion type technique. High school students are using this, you know, and texting photos back and forth to each other. There are so many ways to get trapped. And, you know, then how many, you know, then we see on the news about these, you know, these young kids taking their own lives because, yeah, they were going to.

Yeah, they threatened them. Use these photos. If you don’t do this for me, you know, then. Then everybody’s going to see these and have, you know, have taken their lives. And so they’ll, you know, they’ll use that. Now you’re going to make some money for me. And, you know, and there are pimps that have their. Their girls turn. You’ll read some, you know, seven to ten men a day, but it goes as high as 60. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We’ve read. We’ve read reports of that. And so there’s. And, you know, now we’re seeing the files, the Epstein files.

So you can see there’s no limit to how dark this gets, you know. You know, the Bible speaks of, you know, as. As in. In the days of Noah. Well, you know, I wondered. Well, we still have kind of a long ways to go before we get to the days of Noah. Until I started seeing the opening of these Epstein files. And boy, we are. How does it get worse? I don’t know. I had one call from a construction worker on the coast, and he was in inside of a home, a very nice home on the Carolina coast.

He wasn’t able to send me any photos or anything like that because the house had video cameras in it. He described photos to me of the Owners of this home with Epstein. Oh, wow. And one was of. And this is what he’s telling me. Had no reason to doubt this man. He had nothing to gain by calling me and telling me this, but they were holding a chicken over top of a child. The head was cut off of the chicken and dripping the blood on this child. And so of course, I, we, we contacted, you know, authorities, you know, on that and at least reported it.

He had some other information that. Did he have an address for the house? He did, yes. Yeah. So I called it. Yeah, yeah, I called that, Called the county that it was in to let them know. Now, whatever happened from that, I have no idea. But. Yeah. And this is the first time I’ve ever shared that story on an interview, actually. Yeah. It’s that bad. That’s the other thing too, is I have not seen some of the videos of Epstein, but my friend has. He said that Epstein had some type of deformity for eating, for cannibalism.

And that’s the other thing too, that people don’t understand. I mean, this is, this is how evil this is. Like, we can’t even fathom the, the depth of, of an evil. Doesn’t even feel like it feels like there should be a stronger word than evil because it’s so. It’s so intense. Yeah. And I don’t, you know, I don’t have a word for it. And I, and I, I think most people are not going to believe that. They don’t believe it. They don’t believe it’s that bad because people won’t even believe it’s that bad in their, in their state or in their city.

Well, of course. Surely it’s not that bad here. Yeah, you know, it is. Yeah. To get them to believe at this level. I don’t think they do. Yeah. And that’s the thing too, you know, I have a friend of mine who was in Sedona, Arizona, and she was like. She couldn’t believe that it was happening there. And these upscale areas, it’s. It’s everywhere. It’s everywhere. So when I was researching my book, the Death of Freedom, what Happened to America and how to Save It, I wanted to also add the satanic symbolisms. That’s. That is everywhere. It’s everywhere.

It’s in architecture, it’s in the, the way the streets are designed. It’s in the Vatican all over the place. But I didn’t add this to the Death of Freedom because there was so much that I was like, oh my gosh, this is a Whole nother book. So I’m. I’m gonna be writing a book called the Hidden Cult of Governments. How the Devil runs Nations. And. And how to stop him. And how to stop him, I feel, is from our own heart frequency, from our guided intuition doing the work that we’re doing. And, like, there’s a reason why you were guided to do this work.

You know, like, each one of us is guided to do something following that guided intuition. That guided intuition comes from something greater than us. And I think that that’s what’s going to protect us, too, when we follow that guided intuition. Something is. Something’s setting the path for us, and I think that’s where. Where it stops. But it has to come from people waking up and seeing what the heck is going on and then doing. Exactly. If you see something, say something, even if it’s no, you know, that’s what’s really important. It’s like sometimes people see something and they go, oh, no, that can’t be happening.

That’s not really what I see, you know? And. Yeah, it is really what you see. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yes. It’s too easy to. It’s too easy to say that. And just like. Or. Or that mindset. I don’t. I’m not gonna. I don’t need to get involved in that. Yes, you do. Yes, you definitely need to get involved in that. Yeah. As far as kids getting abducted, that’s starting to increase now. You know, we. Of course, there’s that 44%, approximately, that where this. The abuse and then the trafficking starts within the family or somebody that’s close to the family where it started.

But now we’re starting to see an increase in the abduction rate now, because, look, there’s a lot of money in this. People get rich off this. There was an attempt to abduct an infant in western North Carolina. The lady that was attempting to do that ended up telling police she was going to get $25,000 for that infant. Just. That is so disgusting. There’s, like. There’s a price on that. That is just like. That’s. That’s the other thing, too. Is. Is. Is the money thing, because we can actually live in people. We used to live without money.

And, like, being on a farm, you know, I live off grid, and there’s bartering, and we can actually live without money, and people just. We just have to learn how to do it again. And it’s not. It’s like doing the right thing versus losing, because not only you’re gonna get $25,000. What’s that gonna do to your soul doing something like that? You know, they don’t see, they don’t see past that because you are not the same again, you just did something horrendous to another living. Not not only another living soul, but a child like that is something that is beyond again, beyond evil.

So yeah, I could keep talking to you forever, but I do have another interview coming up. Is there any last words you want to say? And again, I do want to share the website again about what’s happening in North Carolina. This is Awake and Bold. And you can go to their event page. So this is March 7th and 8th and it’s. Their event is in Henderson, North Carolina, March 7th and 8th. And are you going to be at this event? Yes. So I’ll be speaking at that event as well. Okay, good. And part of the solution.

Prevent. Yeah, be part of the solution. Yeah. And you know, equip yourself parents, equip your children. Go to these websites and get the information off there of how to train your kids to be aware too. Ladies. Teenagers. Teenagers. Yeah. Stop. Stop. Walking out of a mall, of a shopping center by yourself to your car. Somebody with you. Walk bold, tough. Have the phone out ready, not your face in the phone. There are a lot of little things you can do to stop that potential predator from, from taking, from taking you down. Vulnerability, especially if you’re, they know you’re in a single parent home, you know, so they look, they’re like wolves on, on blood popsicles, I call it.

So they watch. Yeah, yeah. Go to these websites, equip yourself and make it harder for a predator to turn you into a victim or turn your children into a victim. This reminds me of when I was in a, in a, in a shopping center and I, there was somebody who was walking behind me and I, the feeling that I felt was like, you need to look, you know, you need to turn around and look at this man. And I turned around and I just looked him straight in the eyes and then he walked away. And it was just like.

Because like I just, it was something that would. And that’s the other thing too. It’s like follow your guided intuition and if you’re watching this, it’s not a mistake. You’re watching this. So it is your responsibility. And if you’re a parent, it’s your Kuleana, your, your yours to do. To learn how to teach your children to stay safe. Yes. And yes. Yes. We, that’s what we need to do right, right now. So thank you so Much for joining me, Ray. I really appreciate your time. And let’s do a quick prayer and then I’ll. I’ll let you go.

Infinite Creator of all things. Wow. We are. We are really in a time of awakening right now. We are just so grateful for people like Ray, for his courage to stand up and to do what is right. Not what is easy, but what is right and what comes from his heart. And Great Spirit, we know that there are so many more people that are doing that, that are stepping up, that are seeing what is happening to our children. The most vulnerable of us. These precious, precious children that come from you, Great Spirit, that are literally created cell by cell by you.

And we now just send so much white light of love and protection around all children around the planet, around their parents, around these rescuers, knowing that what is coming is so much better than what has been. And the evilness that has been around the world is being lit up so brightly with this white light of truth that cannot stay hidden anymore. Great Spirit, we call that forth right now. We call forth all angels around the planet to be with anybody who’s being held against their will. We call forth that the light of the path to freedom is lit up so brightly and that they are protected as they are guided toward freedom.

Great Spirit, we know that that is done. Evilness cannot stay hidden any longer. It is not in the shadows. It is right out in the open for all of us to see. And we say no. We say no more. We say not to our children. We call forth freedom and peace and harmony. And those people who do not value human life, who do not value the innocence of our children, that they are removed from power, that they are held accountable. We call forth accountability, Great Spirit, that not one person who has harmed a child is set free.

We call forth that they are held accountable in the light and the love and the greatness that is of you. Great Spirit, we know that that is done. All people who are hearing this message, stepping up to doing any even small action, seeing something, saying something, or bringing in a child to heal. Great Spirit, we know that that is, that each person is here for a reason. We are the bravest of the brave to come forth and be here on the planet right now. And we call forth the knowingness that we are each guided. And we trust you, Great Spirit.

And we trust our hearts that are guiding us to doing what is ours to do. Thank you so much, Great Spirit, and thank you so much for Ray. We know he, him and his family are always protected and he is always guided. Thank you so much. Great spirit. And so it is. Thank you so much, Ray. Really appreciate your time. And, yeah, yours as well. Yeah. Get involved, people. We need your help. Get involved. They need funding as well. That costs a lot of money to these rescues. And deploy people as well, but get involved in some way.

Just some way. Just some way. I love it. All right, you guys, keep your children safe. Learn these. Learn these tips. Learn these tips. And do your part in whatever your heart is calling you to do. So much. Aloha, everyone. Thank you.
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