Summary
âž¡ The article discusses the complexities of the Uniform Commercial Code, particularly Article 8, and how it affects the ownership of shares, bonds, and mutual funds. It explains that changes in the code have led to individuals losing their ownership rights, with banks and other financial intermediaries gaining priority. This means that if a bank fails, individuals may lose their investments as they are considered second in line to claim their assets. The article suggests that amending the code could potentially restore these ownership rights to individuals.
âž¡ The text discusses how complex legal language can be used to deceive people, particularly in the context of financial assets and property rights. It highlights how terms like ‘entitlement holder’ and ‘securities intermediary’ can confuse people, potentially leading to loss of their assets. The text also mentions how changes in laws and regulations, such as flood insurance requirements, can put people’s homes at risk. Lastly, it criticizes the influence of large institutions like the Federal Reserve and the Bank of International Settlement on local banks and farmers.
âž¡ The speaker is concerned about the shift from physical to digital currency, fearing it could lead to control over people’s assets and financial power. They believe this change is happening quickly and under the radar, with many not realizing the potential implications. The speaker also mentions the possibility of tokenizing natural resources and even individuals, which they see as a threat to personal freedom and autonomy.
âž¡ The text discusses concerns about the potential commercialization of natural resources, such as air and water, through legislation. It highlights the efforts of Harriet Hageman and others in stopping such legislation, but warns that these issues may resurface. The text also emphasizes the importance of state sovereignty in resisting federal mandates, using South Dakota as an example. Lastly, it mentions the shift of elite interests towards gold, silver, and crypto, and the speaker’s personal experiences with opposition from banking interests.
âž¡ The speaker discusses the election system in South Dakota, where finishing in second place can still retain a seat. They mention that this system is more favorable compared to Arizona’s exclusive primary. The speaker also mentions concerns about potential interference in the voting process, with reports of voting images being destroyed. They express a desire to investigate this issue further and discuss it in a future conversation.
Transcript
Now, whatever it is, they’re trying to deprive you of home ownership and your nest egg. So we’re going to get into all that right here. But before we do, we got to let you know the banks are in trouble. 63 are on the federal watch list for failure, but they won’t tell you which ones. Like you don’t have the right to take your money out of the bank. Uh, and the Dodd Frank Law 2010 says they can keep your money. So here comes noble gold. And Noble Gold says if your retirement’s in there, we’re really good at taking it out, backing it with gold, which is a lot better than the failing dollar, and you’ll be in control, and they can’t touch it.
You go, that sounds pretty good. Does it work? Yeah. I’ve been a customer for seven years. They can also help you protect your bank account. And again, I’ve been a customer for seven years, and when I close the deal, and I just did last week, the first thing I did is I took 90% of that money and I went and bought silver coins. They’re the best organization to work with, and I have to give this warning, courtesy the FTC. There’s no guarantees, and past performance can’t be a predictor of future expectations. I’ll say this, I’ve been a customer for seven years.
So what are you going to do, by the way, they should give this warning. The banks can steal their money if they get in trouble. Dodd Frank 2010. But we don’t hear that warning just for me. Okay, here’s what you do. Go to your phone after this interview and call 877-646-5347 877-646-5347 by the way, all the wealthy, they’re ditching cash and they’re buying gold, silver and bitcoin. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Julie, welcome to the show. We’ve talked a lot off air, but this is your first appearance on our show. We’re so glad to have you.
And we want to be pleasant in the beginning because this talk is going to be somewhat dire. It’s going to be very threatening to most people that hear this. So let me just kind of turn it over to you. I asked a few people randomly, do you know what UCC is? And they thought it was a college football team. So. So tell us. Tell us what UCC is. Well, it’s uniform commercial code, and it is what states have to have in order to operate their business over state lines. It is what allows commerce to happen throughout the United States.
And it’s been around a long time. And for the most part, it is very good. It’s very good. It’s something that’s necessary. It is how all of our money moves from product through the banks. It is what truly allows commerce to happen. So it is extremely important. And it is controlled by your legislators. It’s controlled by your state government. Okay, well, if it’s. Give me an example. How good is it? Let’s start with a positive and work our way down. Okay. What does UCC do that people say? I like that. Well, I mean, you’re not talking to an expert on UCC.
You’re talking to a second year legislator who didn’t even know what UCC stood for until 2023. But how is it good? It is good in the fact that, once again, it mirrors our codes with use of credit cards, use of checking accounts, use of. Allows us to trade and trade banknotes, dollar bills for products and services in our own state and across state lines. So it allows us to sell or buy product across the state line. So it is. And that’s exactly what UCC is. It also is, it controls and regulates, to a point. To a point, some segments of our banking industry, and anything to do with money.
Anything to do with what we consider money. Okay? So that’s probably where the problem starts, because the root of all evil is the love of money. So. Well, I mean, it’s love of money, but I think that, you know, in the Bible, it states that very clear, the root of all evil is the love of money. But it’s. It’s. I think we, you know, we’re called to not have more than one God. And, and so, you know, money is. It’s necessary in, you know, we have to have money. It’s. It’s our lifeblood without, without. Without the use or some way of bartering, however you wanna name it.
You have to be able to purchase items from others in order to survive in this modern economy. So what UCC does is allows us to do that. And across state lines. Okay? And so I can spend my declining dollar in Arizona the same as I can spend it in Colorado. So I understand that, and that’s a really good thing. But whenever in this day and age, when you have control of money and you have government, right now, I’ll tell you, my red alert signs go up because I’m wondering, what are they doing to benefit themselves or their benefactors? And how is it going to hurt myself or the public? Right.
Right. Let’s talk about what got you interested in UCC and go from there. Well, I wouldn’t say that I, you know, it wasn’t something that. It was something that, out of fear, sitting my first year in legislation here in South Dakota, a bill was brought to the floor in reference to UCC. That’s exactly the words that were used. UCC and just a simple cleanup bill. And inside that simple cleanup bill, it was 124 pages, of course. And once you got to page 20, it started talking about electronic money. And electronic money is the definition of central bank digital currency.
That’s right. And knowing full well that that was the, you know, the definition. I said, this is not just a simple cleanup bill. And alerted, of course, we read the bills before they go to the floor. I had discovered this two weeks into my first term as a legislator in South Dakota, not knowing even the process, but alerted some legislators that I trust, and they totally agreed with me. And me being a strong christian in my definition, I said, this looks like the mark of the beast to me. I’m not interested in this. I’m not voting for it.
And so then I spent a. The rest of our session, which, you know, is anywhere between 45, 42 days, and basically talking to as many legislators as I possibly could, and we were able to successfully get that vote that was passed in the House and the Senate overturned and vetoed by the governor. So then the folks that helped me do that, accomplish that were, you know, very, very interested in our plight. And before I knew it, Florida had outlawed central bank digital currency. Several other states outlawed central bank digital currency in 2023. And so very relieved by that.
But knowing that bill, knowing what was in that bill and studying what was in that bill, I basically asked the Freedom Caucus and mostly the wall builders, which is a David Barton organization, and he put together a team for me that has been excellent in helping me read the UCC and find out what is in it. And then, of course, David Webb came out with a book or a documentary on YouTube called the great taking. And we. And he understands how they are able to, or how they were able to pass legislation in all 50 states beginning in 1994.
And in South Dakota, the legislation was passed in 1998. We put our fingers on that in December of 2023, ten days before the 2024 session, and were able to create a bill. And that bill became House Bill 1199 in the state of South Dakota. We presented that to legislation, and right away you can about imagine. For those of you who are aware of how this works, the bank lobbyists came out of the woodwork, not only the bank lobbyists, the Chamber of Commerce and the South Dakota retailers and anybody that they could get in their camp to basically tell the legislators that were serving on the committee that needed to go in front of that.
This is a horrible bill, conspiracy theory. We can’t change this. This will stop commerce in South Dakota. All malarkey. All malarkey. So the unfortunate thing is, in the state of South Dakota, the uniform commercial code has kind of been one of those things that nobody reads. No one, not even the attorneys that serve in for the governor’s administration, understand the uniform commercial code. But I can guarantee you the attorneys that wrote it understand it. And so whenever I testify against the uniform commercial code, they have an attorney zoomed in from Chicago or who knows where they’re from, but they’re uniform commercial code lawyers, and we caught them lying repeatedly in testimony.
Now, since no one else understands it, of course, the legislators that have been, you know, basically taught by the lobbyists to not listen, they voted against it. And they actually did ultimately kill the bill. It didn’t take them long, and we knew they would, but we got them on record. I do have a small group of legislators in South Dakota that do understand what I’m trying to get across, but I really want to get into what is in article eight of the uniform commercial code. And if every state in the union would literally erase a couple of lines in that code, the savings, the amount of what you would be giving back to your citizens is invaluable.
And so what ultimately happened in 1994 in the uniform commercial code, and what they did is they changed the definition of shareholder. Broker, broker and shares, mutual funds, stocks, bonds, ETF’s. Basically that all drives into derivatives, which all feeds into our mortgages. I mean, our mortgages are basically handled by banks. And then those banks trade them on the board of trade. Things have gotten so complicated since 1998. And in the 1990s, when we went from paper stocks to digital. And that’s when this all happened. And so now the term shareholder is entitlement holder. A share, a stock, a bond, an ETF is an entitlement and a brokerage or a broker is an intermediary.
So when you start looking for and what the team did with the wall builders and now they’re fantastic people, attorneys, extremely intelligent. And what David Webb was able to help, help guide us into Weredez, where it is specifically in the code and in South Dakota, it’s an article eight. Well, it’s an article eight in all states. But where, what section it is, it could be different. Our section is section in section 57 A 8110. And these are the areas where we need to have it amended. And we literally need to remove the definition of entitlement holder and take out where the jurisdiction.
And now I want to get into why. So when they change the definition of those three areas, they basically took away your private property. Now, you do not own your bond, you do not own your share, you do not own your mutual fund. Let me clear this up real quick, because I think we’re talking about multiple locations for wealth. You’re, one, talking about home mortgage. Correct? That’s been true. Correct. Okay. And number two, you’re now talking about the stock market, too. Well, the bill that I refer to is in reference to shareholder mutual funds. I asked that.
And bonds. And when you ultimately go follow the money, you follow those areas. Those are all being held by banks. So when, when your shares, your, you know, and we’ve, we’ve pretty much paid attention to where our bank’s banking situation is. Because when you look at commerce, when you look at the flow of money, it flows in and out of, whether it’s going to the New York Stock Exchange or not. Brokerages, brokerage houses, trust companies, they all are centrally located into several banks. And why does this all matter? Well, when we have a large bank, kind of like you had talked before, Dodd Frank situation, when we have a large bank that’s been declared too big to fail throughout article eight, when you have a bank that’s too big to fail and they go back to collect on their debt, if your shares, your mutual funds, your ETF’s, are held in that bank, I mean, ultimately that’s where money flows in, flows out, and that bank goes broke.
Your claim on that 401K, pension account, whatever it is, you have been deemed a non credit. You’re not a creditor. You are. Your ability to make a claim is after the bank. They’re first, they’re the first mortgage signer, you’re second. You’re no longer first. In my opinion. You’ve lost your ownership. Well, yeah, there’s no question you have. Absolutely. And that is clearly stated. Clearly stated in article eight. Now, not clearly. I take that back. They kind of hide it, and how they hide it is they give you ownership and then they take it away and they do it basically with the word except.
And except as otherwise provided in a new section of code. And our code is 57 a 8511. And in 57 a 511, it clearly states a claim of a creditor of a securities intermediary, which is a brokerage who has securely, who has security interest in a financial asset held by a securities intermediary, has priority over claims of the securities intermediary. So basically, one security intermediary who has priority over another securities intermediary, they have first claim, then entitlement holders who have security entitlements shares with respect to that financial asset. If the creditor has control over the financial asset, the creditor is the security intermediary, not you, not the entitlement holder.
Where do you fit in? Where does the person fit into this? Your second. Okay, and then go ahead. So, and then if you want to lay claim to your money, you have to travel to the bank’s jurisdiction. That’s clearly stated also, and that’s stated in section one, insurers jurisdiction. So you have to go to the securities intermediaries jurisdiction to lay claim to your money. So let’s just say you have a million dollars in your four hundred one k, and it’s being held by, you know, Fidelity, JPMorgan Chase, Vanguard, whoever it is. You have to go to Delaware, wherever, Switzerland, and get your claim.
You have to lay claim. But you’re 2nd, 2nd mortgage holder, second creditor. How are you ever going to collect? So this is where folks need to be aware what this means. And it is literally in one line, except otherwise provided in 57 a 8511. And then it is one paragraph describing who has priority. And it’s not, and it’s not the person, it’s not the citizen, it’s the bank. Let me say this, because this will really help my audience understand this, because they’ve heard me talk about Noble Gold and Dodd Frank forever and a day. Dodd Frank came in in 2010, and what they did is they declared the account holder to be an unsecured creditor, and so they shifted the ownership of the money.
And this is exactly the model they’re using here. This is a little different. Like to go and claim your money. There’s a pecking order. And this is one thing I’ve never told people. I don’t think I’ve told people this. In Melbourne, Australia, in 2014, they set the order of FDIC recompensation for lost bank account money, and they insured the credit swap derivatives crowd first. You’ll never see it if, unless you’re in that group. They won’t even get all the way through that group because the FDIC only has 0.8% of the money on hand. They need to cover bank accounts.
And so when we look at this, this is worse, because a lot of these brokerage houses that could hold a note to your mortgage could be like you said in Switzerland. So now you’ve got to go to a tremendous expense to go lay claim, but you’re laying claim knowing that you’re always going to be in second place. That’s right. Wow. How many homeowners are affected by this? Is it anyone who has a mortgage to pay? It all depends on who holds that mortgage. I mean, if the bank that, that is holding, you know, I mean, if you’re a morgue, if you take out a home loan and you take it out with your local bank, you and I both know within the first six months, that mortgage is sold to somebody.
So you have to kind of follow who’s holding that mortgage, ultimately, who is holding that mortgage. And if that bank just so happens to be in the share in the, you know, held by JPMorgan Chase or by Lehman Brothers or by, you know, you just don’t know. And if, if those big banks were to fail, I mean, yes, when I was defending this bill and trying to bring it in front of the legislature, of course, the argument was, well, Julie, I mean, representative alk, what are the chances of one of those banks going broke? I mean, really, this is a, this is a.
Just a horror. I mean, that’s just not going to happen. Well, I mean, it happened to Lehman Brothers, so can it happen? Absolutely. And you don’t have to, you do not have to completely understand the financial markets to understand. We are, we’re headed to a road of no good. So if this, if they can write this into the code, get it through the legislature, nobody understands it. Nobody. When I say nobody, I had to bring specialists in to explain it to the attorneys in the administration, and I’m not trying to degrade them or by any means of any disrespect.
This is difficult to understand. And they do it on purpose. When they literally give you ownership I mean, may I read the paragraph prior? Because the paragraph prior basically says. Says the entitlement holder has all ownership, except, I mean, to the extent necessary for the securities intermediary to satisfy all security entitlements with respect to a partial financial asset, all interests in that financial asset held by the securities intermediary are held by the securities intermediary for the entitlement holders. Right there it’s saying, oh, we’re doing everything good for the entitlement holders, which are the people that have the 401 ks or the, or the pensions, and they are not the property of the securities intermediary and are not subject to claims of creditors, the securities intermediary.
So right there, they’re saying, oh, you, honey, you have your 401k, it’s yours. And then comma, except as otherwise provided in sections 57 A 811, where it clearly states, except when the securities intermediary goes broke, then get in the back of the line because they’re first and you’re second. So it’s trickery. It’s wordsmith. And that is what this code, ucc code is full. It’s full of wordsmith. And you have to follow it completely through all the way to the end of the sections because they put in excepts throughout the entire code. Yeah, that word accept, I see that a lot for deception.
I’ll give you an example. I don’t want to get into it too deeply, but the people of lahaina had always fought off the developers, like blackrock managed banks and so forth, and they wanted them to sell out, and they wouldn’t do it for years. And so when these people got burned out, and I won’t get into causation, but when they got burned out, they looked at a law and they said, you, the governor told us that we would never be able to have our land rights violated. And he said, yeah, but there’s that clause in there, except for a natural disaster.
Exactly. And so this, and this is why now they’ve had to sell out for pennies on the dollar just to survive. And that word accept is always there. There’s another element that’s interesting to me, and this just occurred to me, Julie, I have never thought of this before in terms of what you’re talking about. Generally, in Europe, you have free speech until they say it’s not in the common good. So we call it communitarian law. Constitutional law in its ideal form means you have the right for freedom of speech, regardless of what the government says. You can’t threaten anybody, but you can certainly speak your mind and criticize the government you can in foreign countries like in the EU until they say it’s not in the common good.
That’s what this is. This is communitarian law. It’s taking away someone’s right to property, Fifth Amendment. And it’s giving away their property right to an independent person and then turning the account holder into an insurance agents and an insurance company to cover the debts of the person, the company in charge now. Right. Sum that up correctly. You did. But I mean, this is, this is, the problem is you and I both know what shape the FDIC is in and the spic is in this. You know, when I visited with a couple of financial attorneys in reference to this, they said, well, the consumer would have the spic.
Well, we all know how solid are they? I mean, how long are individuals going to have to wait to collect all their retirement dollars? The money will run out before compensation. Oh, oh, oh, wait, wait. And not only that, you have someone who has a, they are invested in the stock market. The comment back to me was, well, you invest your money in the stock market, there is a chance you could lose it. So this is their answer. This is their answer. We as consumers, we as South Dakotans, number one, you try and blow the horn or warn people about this and then again getting them to believe you, even with it in black and white in front of them.
And I had to draw pictures and diagrams and say they changed the definition of what this means. And it’s clearly written in our law in definitions that they change the word for shareholder to entitlement holder. They change the word of shares to entitlements. They change the names of the broker and brokerage to securities intermediaries. And it, and even stating all of that, they still didn’t understand what I was talking about. And so the biggest, the, the biggest challenge is to get people to understand exactly what’s happening. And what my fear is, and it probably is, you know, completely legitimate, is that everything’s going to be gone and then it’s going to be, well, what happened? And I’m going to say they did it legally.
They did it completely under the laws of, and they would never be able to get this through federally. So they knew. They, you know, we’re doing this to our own people in our states. We’re doing it via our legislation, via the people closest to the people. I mean, you send your senators and your congressmen off to Washington, but this is happening in your state. It’s happening in your capitol buildings, in your states under the nose of the governor and your legislators. And that’s what I, that’s, to me, that is just wrong. It is just wrong. You know, this isn’t the only area where homes are in jeopardy, right.
This is a general plan. This is something I did not tell you in our other discussions. I just found this out yesterday. There’s something that’s called FTIP, and it’s federal floodplain insurance. Yes. And what they have done, and the Army Corps of Engineers and the federal government’s allowed this to happen. They’ve expanded the floodplain. In other words, you didn’t used to be in a floodplain, now you are. And they can charge you a big price for insurance. Yes. On September 30, these rates go sky high for everybody, including people that have never paid them. And a lot of people are just scraping to get by and, and they’re going to lose their homes.
I read an analysis of this yesterday. 4.7 million homes are at risk now of default. And there’s 33 days left for this to come into play. And so what I’m saying to you is you’re talking about one way your home can be stolen from you. I’m giving you another example where 5 million homes basically can be taken as well. This is a general trend to eliminate personal property, holistic sense. Do you agree with that? Absolutely. And what’s bad is if you do not carry that flood insurance, you won’t be able to have a mortgage the bank will not be able to get.
Now, if your home or your business is paid for and you’re not under the guise of that bank or the banking system, then they can’t really hurt you. But what we’ve done over the years by stretching our mortgages to 30 years is people just really get out of debt. They really never ever get their mortgage paid. And, you know, we really, what we’re doing and back, you know, 30 years ago, you would have a relationship with your community bank. You would have a relationship with your banker. They were a business partner. And this is something that I’m trying to educate even our bankers here in South Dakota, because truly the banks, but they’ve gotten tied into this bank of international settlement and the Federal Reserve, and the Federal Reserve has become more of a big brother than anything else.
And they are, you know, they are telling the banks how to do business. When you are kind of like the farmers now, we’re telling the farmers have gotten used to being told how to where to regulated or told how to plant their crops. Based upon the payment that they’re going to get from their federal crop insurance, they’ve done the same thing with the banking industry. Am I wrong? No, you’re absolutely right. They are literally taking. You’re a cattle rancher, so you know this better than I do. I have a lot of friends that are farmers and ranchers, particularly in Colorado, where I’m from.
And I mean, I’ve had 40 year friendships and they’re saying exactly what you’re saying. I want to tell the audience, this isn’t Julie’s opinion. This is what’s already happened to the farmers and ranchers. This is happening and it’s happened me. It’s been happening and they, and I, and just like, you know, and it’s, they do it slowly, bit by bit by bit. They take a little bit more every single year, every six. You know, it’s just it. And we, we want comfort, we want convenience. We want what’s easy. We, you know, hey, it’s free money. It’s free.
It’s free. It’s free. You know, we don’t have to do, all we have to do is pay our crop insurance premiums and, and plant corn this year, plant soybeans the next year. Oh, you’ve got too high of a corn base. Your corn base is here. Your soybean base, your crop base is here. You need. And now when. Because I served on the farm credits farm FSA board here in Yankton county for eleven years. And then I ran for office, so they kicked me off, which is fine. But when I was serving, I noticed, I’m like, okay, when did we start paying money for livestock? When did we start giving a payment for alfalfa? If you haven’t been paying attention, which I didn’t.
I mean, I have my job, my husband has his job. We have a farm. You know, he takes care of the farm. You know, farm payments, yada, yada, yada. We’re tied into the government, FSA office. All this is good. And we. I thought it was great. I mean, I think. I’m thinking, hey, these payments are coming. It’s fair. We can’t really regulate our price. It’s regulated by the government. You know, we’re kind of caught in this system. And then you start tying it to what, you know, biblically, and you’re like, okay, they’re trying to control our food supply.
Yeah, that’s exactly right. That’s why the Chinese and Bill Gates are doing what they’re doing along with this. You’re exactly right. You know, 18 years ago, you start really watching the trends of what they’re doing, not even tying it into the banking industry until I got until two years ago and start digging. You’re like, holy moly. They’re doing this everywhere. They’re after everything they want. Everything. Well, you know, you will own nothing and be happy. So I don’t know about being happy. I’m not happy about any of it. But it is being done right under the noses of very, very smart people.
And that’s what’s a little alarming, is that they have been able to completely keep us content in our lives and busy that we haven’t been paying attention. And now that we start blowing the horn, you know, sounding the alarm, you’re nothing more than a conspiracy theorist wearing a tinfoil hat. And that’s exactly what, you know. And I’m. I’m, you know, I’ve been around a little while. I really don’t care what anybody says about me. You know, I’ve been very blessed in my life, and right now, I’m sounding the alarm, and the consequences may be with as they may, but I’m not going to be the one that sat on my hands and didn’t say anything and didn’t do anything.
We have got to inform the public of what’s happening, and it’s happening fast. It is. I’m just amazed that a first term legislator would come up with this. And I’m not degrading first term legislators, but it’s a language you got to learn. There are processes you have to learn. You have to foster relationships. And I’ve known a lot of people in politics. Most of them are pretty good people, some, you know. But anyway, I’ve learned about the process, and I just am stunned that you were able to come across this. What alerted you to the problem? I mean, what was my aha.
Moment? This is a problem, and I got to educate my fellow legislators right here. I’ll read it to you. Opened it up, and I brought the bill. I mean, this was the very first bill. And page 45, electronic money means I money in electronic form. That on page 45, that one, line 31 a, is what scared the crap out of me. And I’ll tell you what else. Controllable account. And this was the bill that was introduced in South Dakota legislation in 2023. And here I’ve got it. I put it in a binder. Here’s the binder. The binder I carried around with me and sat in front of legislator after legislator after legislator and said, I don’t want you to think I’m totally crazy, but please, can you look at this language? Tell me what this means.
Tell me what you think this means. And over and thank, thank God, literally, so many of them said, julie, I don’t think you’re wrong. I think this is leading up to a central bank digital currency, which anyone who knows their bible knows. That’s the mark of the beast. And so we just. I just kept saying electronic means relating to technology having electrical, digital, magnetic, wireless, optical, electromagnetic or similar capabilities. Well, that’s a credit card, Julie. Of course it is. But when you say electronic, money means money in any form electronic, that means they’re going to remove our dollars, our paper dollars and our coins, and they’re going to make us use digital currency.
Then there’s a key phrase, though. Go ahead, I’m sorry. Go ahead and finish. And then you get into pages. I mean, I had this bill because I’m not a lawyer, and I, and I just. I had to have the black law dictionary. It took me hours. And, I mean, I had ten piles, sections, you know, this. This word means this, you know, and throughout this bill, and this is the bill we were able to get vetoed. But when you start reading about electronic controllable ledgers, to me that meant tokenization of all of our assets. Agree? And I said, there is tokenization.
They are trying to tokenize. And knowing my research and knowing what I know about how they are playing an ESG score and basically making sure that you can’t buy or sell without a mark or some kind of a digital currency. And then I’m requiring an ESG score and controllable electronic ledgers. Controllable. Keyword. Control. Keyword controllable. Here’s why. Here’s what I’ve learned about what they’re going to do with CBDC. You’re going to be given the credits and they expire at the end of the month. That’s part of the controllable. In other words, you can’t accumulate well, so you’ll never be a threat to them financially or with power.
So that’s the first thing. The second thing that controllable is the social credit. And you mentioned ESG. That’s the first cousin of what I just mentioned here. So if you do something they don’t like, they control your assets, right? What UCC is you’re in second place. First place controls you. And eventually, if you do something that the powers that be don’t like, they’ll start fining you or taking your money or just turning you out. And it’s, it’s in process. Now. How many states have adopted this? Have you looked into this? How far it spread? When we.
South Dakota is one of the first legislatives, it is the first legislative session in the US. So when we, when we were able to get it vetoed the day before, well, Governor DeSantis of Florida, that helped. He came on live. We had our Freedom caucus in South Dakota alerted the freedom caucus in Florida, well, kind of alerted the Freedom Caucus network and they were able to dig into this and they decided they went live on Fox News or somewhere that Christy Noem, our governor, Governor Christy Noem saw it and she started to pay attention to the 1600 emails and phone calls she was getting a week saying, this has got to be stopped because it passed the House and the Senate, overwhelming.
So she was getting, I mean, we went to work. It was a concerted effort here in South Dakota. And so she started paying attention. And finally, ten days before the end of session, basically said, I am considering vetoing it. And we were able to then four days before the end of session, she said, if you can get me 44 signatures, I will, or 40 signatures, I will veto it. And I got her 44. Anyhow, because of all of that, I do believe we were able to get 23 other states to basically throw it out, not even allow it on the floor, but third.
And then I’m not, I mean, I’m not sure on the numbers only because I want to make, you know, I don’t want to say something that’s not correct, but I do believe over half of the states in the United States did not pass this code, but half of them did. So there are states right now carrying this legislation. Yeah. Here we are in Arizona, where 70% of our population is conservative, but we’re run by tyrants that are really far to the left. And they got this in. I’ve got to go back and see how far it goes.
But UCC is in Arizona. I looked it up yesterday. Oh, UCC is in every state. This bill was one that was, that had hit the, hit the ground running in 2023. So what it is called here, I will tell you exactly the title of it. And it is. Well, we, it was called house bill, but it is a bill that changes the definition of money. And it basically changes the definition of money to electronic. Okay, so that’s what you want to look for in your legislation? You want to hear a real conspiracy theory? Sure. Why not? You know, my tinfoil, tinfoil hat is very securely attached.
Right in the line of what you’re saying. I’ve read that they want to tokenize the water on your property. Yes. Rivers, trees. Yes. Minerals, natural asset cap companies. Yes, exactly. Yeah. So here’s my tinfoil hat question. How long until they tokenize us? You know, boy, well, I mean, don’t think for 1 minute I have not thought about them using our Social Security number and putting us in classes and selling us on the board of trade. Don’t think I haven’t thought of that, because I have. So do I think they’re doing it? I don’t know. I don’t have any proof.
But the natural, I will tell you, Harriet Hageman, I believe from Wyoming, helped the american stewards for Liberty defeat another piece of legislation that the New York Stock Exchange was so arrogantly thinking they were going to be able to sneak it through with the federal commission. So the FCC, we cannot allow something called natural asset companies. We were able to get it killed and stopped in February of 2024, just this past year. But we know very well they’re going to bring it back and try and. Yes, sell photosynthesis, sell the air we breathe, sell the wind that is produced, sell these leases that are being sold to land owners.
Well, basically not sold, being signed by landowners for wind towers, solar farms, the CO2 pipeline. Carbon capture, you mean carbon captures? Correct. So carbon capture pipelines that are being basically pushed, especially here in South Dakota. We’re in a huge battle over private property rights here in South Dakota. So those kinds of things are being, they cluster them together because I’ve read these leases, I’ve read these easements and right in them is language that allows that grantee, that grantor, the corporation to use your easement or to use your lease as a lien, a mortgage. They can mortgage it.
They can basically put it up in their portfolio. And so that means they can sell it. They can sell that lease to whomever they want to. So they’re going to cluster those and they’re going to try and create these new asset classes on the board of trade and your air, your photosynthesis, your, the water on your property that you believed is a piece of nature that it’s to be enjoyed by everyone. We, they’re going to sell it. They’re going to try and market it and sell it. What’s, what the responsibility of the states needs to be is to basically say we, and as a matter of fact, I’m going to be carrying a piece of legislation in South Dakota that is going to prohibit any type of natural asset company in the state of South Dakota.
Those items are free, God made, not to be bought or sold in any form by anyone, any corporation at any time. You cannot sell or buy droplets of water photosynthesis. You know, are we that desperate to create shares and to create derivatives on the board of trade to have people invest in that? We are actually selling and buying those forms of things that were created for everyone to enjoy free. I mean, where does freedom start and slavery begin? Stop. Where does freedom stop and slavery begin? I told you yesterday, it’s executive order 13603. Yes. Oh, that was an eye opener.
Yeah. Holy moly. I got to ask you this question because if I don’t, my baby boomer audience will be upset with me. Okay. Okay. So these people have paid off their 30 year mortgage. Yeah. Are they affected by the UCC? Well, you know, they’re affected by the UCC in their 401 ks and their pensions. Absolutely agree. Yeah. Okay. But their mortgage, you know, I, you know, I’m, like I said, I’m not a lawyer. I’m a second term, second year. I bet one year, two years down as legislator, how it affects you. And as far as if you do not have any connection to a bank other than using it to collect your paycheck, pay your bills, that kind of thing.
I don’t think, I think there’s going to be several layers to this. You’re going to be able to have your home somewhat as yours as long as you can afford the property tax. Yeah. Just that there’s sustainable developmental. I don’t know if you know this. I should have talked to you about this before we came on and I apologize. There is a, at the UN, there’s an event called summit of the future. It starts on September 22. And effectively it’s 190 countries that are going to adopt the ssgs sustainable developmental goals. Sdgs. They’re going to adopt these.
And it’s called the summit of the future. I’ve actually done a piece on it on rumble and it’s on my website@thecommonsenseshow.com. and basically we’re going to be voting away our rights. Now, effectively this becomes a treaty. It’s illegal because it hasn’t gone through the Senate with a two thirds approval. But when does that ever stop these people? Correct. We are signing on to becoming part of a world government. It doesn’t say it that way, but it’s a de facto world government. And one of the things that they’re going to do is basically you have to make your home carbon friendly.
And this is already starting in California. And if you can’t pay the climate mitigation costs and California estimates, the law they’re going to bring in, it’ll cost the average homeowner $73,000. And that’s not labor included. How many people have $73,000 to hang on to their home? Exactly. Well, you know, Dave, what we need to, what we need to understand is if they’re going to continue to use our laws, our government system, to take away our rights, then we have to combat it with laws in place in our states that say, not here. What states have forgotten is they have sovereignty over the federal government.
That’s true. The states can write legislation here. In South Dakota, we wrote legislation that says, oh, yeah, you’re going to outlaw gas stoves or electric. I mean, hello. No, not in South Dakota. We’re going to be able to buy gas stoves in South Dakota. You’re going to try and outlaw a certain kind of a switch that isn’t, you know, that they’re going to be able to track how much elect. No, we’re not allowing that in South Dakota. You need legislators who are aware of what these federal mandates are going to be like in South Dakota. In 2023, they tried to mandate electronic id, ear tags in our cattle, our livestock, all of our livestock across the state.
We said not here, not happening. So these federal mandates that you have to, what you have to remember about these federal so called mandates is they are a wish in a hand. You have to basically say, not here. You have to have legislators who are strong enough and have enough gumption to say, not here, it’s not happening. And if you don’t have that, then the people need to rise up and say, either you do it or we’re going to make sure you’re never elected again. So, I mean, how do we fix it in short order? I don’t know, but all I can tell you is in South Dakota, we’re going to do everything we possibly can to ward off these mandates that the federal government is trying to say that you have to do.
Well, what people don’t understand is that when you are a state, you are your sovereignty, and the people of your state need to understand that you do have rights of that state. And in that, and that’s what makes us, that’s what they talk about. Blue states, red states, you decide how you are going to run your state. This state, our state motto is, under people, under God, the people rule. Under God, the people rule. So not under the United States government, under God. So we’re going to try and uphold that here in South Dakota. Okay. I was told by an economist too, just kind of a FYI, he said, the CBDC, when it gets real, it’ll have elements of gold in it.
That’s when they’re, they need, they need some legitimacy of backing. He said, and I agree with him. After I looked at what he was saying, I said, I think this. And so the warning sign for people to watch, they can do these things, CBDC, but it’s still not in yet in its entirety. They’re piecemealing it in step. It’s, I call it the baby steps of tyranny. Right. But when they bring the gold in, that means they’re sealing the deal because they’re going to legitimize what they’re doing. By the way, none of the elite who are behind all this are staying in the system.
They’re all going gold, silver, crypto. All of them. All of them. Jamie Dimon once told his employees, he said, if you buy crypto, I’ll fire you if I find out. Now, JP Morgan bank is one of the biggest acquirers of crypto in the world. It’s absolutely amazing. I wanted to ask you this before we close. You’re taking on very powerful people and you’re in an election run right now. What kind of retaliation have you faced from the banking interests that you’ve opposed? Oh, they don’t like me very much. You know, in South Dakota, and I went through a general my first year, then I just had a primary.
The ironic thing about all of this is the legislator who carries all of these banking, this banking legislation and banking bills. God has such a sense of humor. He is in my district, so they give him lots of money. I’m up against a lot of money, a lot of play. They try and paint me. They gaslight me. But the wonderful thing is, in my district so far, the people understand and they get behind me and they show up before me. And also, too, you told me a little bit about your election. You have to just finish in second place to retain your seat.
Yes. This guy can’t defeat by himself representatives. Right. We have two positions. Correct. You’d have a lot tougher road if you’re in Arizona where they have an exclusive primary where you have one winner. Oh, yeah. You would have a much tougher road to Hoe. So the system there actually favors you. Boy, there’s so much more I want to ask you. But we’re just about out of time. How are your poll numbers looking? And I need a quick answer. Well, we don’t take polls in South Dakota, you know. Oh, then you’re not lying to the public. Okay, that’s good.
We don’t, we don’t, we don’t have a poll. I don’t know. I mean, how, how are things looking? I mean, it’s. If I’m. I mean, I’m here to serve at the, you know, at the whims of my lord and savior. And if he wants me in office, that’s where I’m going. I’m going back to office. I think that’s a healthy attitude. Yeah. I mentioned this to you briefly, but I want to close on this note. I want to do a follow up show with you. We have pretty good reports that your secretary of state and Christy Noem is not interfering in this.
She has ordered the county clerk and recorders to destroy the voting image so no vote can be validated at the end of the day. Could you look into that and get back to us on that? I could. Well, what I could do, to be honest with you, is I could connect you to the people that would know. I mean, I do know. I do know. I would gladly connect you to the individuals who are on top of that. And we have a group of individuals here in South Dakota that are right on the right on the heartbeat of what’s happening in our elections.
And, you know, I am, I am, I’m tackling private property rights. And that is a full time job. And I also have a full time job. I hear you. But I will gladly connect you to the individuals who can tell you where we’re at with that, get you the truth and how they are handling it and what they’re doing it. I do know that South Dakota citizens have come, gone to our secretary of state. And as a matter of fact, it’s almost disheartening to me. But I really did help her get elected. Not only did I, but I, a lot of us conservatives helped her get elected, and she has totally and completely turned on us.
Yeah, I hear you. Well, you know what it’s like. Who song, you know, we won’t get fooled again. And that happens that she’s probably a George Soros operative that’s been trained to run as a Republican, but as a closet Democrat until she gets into power. We, that’s actually, that was an actual program that we uncovered about seven years ago. We are flat out of time, but this has been tremendous. We’re going to follow up with you but I would encourage you to look into the voting aspect of this because this could possibly affect you. It could.
You’re right. Thank you, Julie. Thank you so much for coming on. Always a pleasure. Julie Ock, ladies and gentlemen, South Dakota representative. Take care. Take care.
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