AI-THE BEAST OF DOOM

➡ The Common Sense show discusses the potential benefits and dangers of artificial intelligence (AI) with guest Paul List, who has written a book on the subject. Paul shares his personal journey from disliking school to self-educating and developing a deep interest in AI. He discusses his belief that AI is part of a psychological war for the soul, and criticizes the modern education system for focusing on producing workers for the industrial age rather than fostering true understanding. He also expresses concern about the potential negative impacts of AI and the digital age on humanity.
➡ The text discusses the impact of technology on human relationships and family structures, arguing that it’s replacing human interaction and undermining the creation of families. It suggests that young people are being programmed to prefer technology over human contact, which is seen as inconvenient. The text also criticizes the idea of love being reduced to a feeling that can be associated with inanimate objects like machines. It calls for a return to traditional values and human interaction, warning against the dangers of artificial intelligence and virtual reality.
➡ The speaker discusses the dangers of artificial intelligence (AI), arguing that it could potentially dominate and harm humans. They believe that AI is not just a tool, but a powerful entity that can learn and adapt. They also express concern about the increasing reliance on technology, suggesting that it should not be used to dominate nature or each other. The speaker also mentions a conspiracy against humanity, which they believe is satanic in nature.
➡ The speaker discusses his belief in the Christian faith and the importance of defending it against the rise of technology, which he sees as a negative influence. He criticizes the reliance on smartphones and digital technology, arguing that it’s leading to a loss of creativity and wisdom. He encourages people to return to the analog world and cultivate virtue as a defense against the dominance of technology. He also promotes his book, “Mount Doom”, and his podcast, which aim to educate young people about these issues.
➡ Paul’s efforts are valuable and deserve more attention. Everyone is encouraged to check out his work. Thanks to Paul for his contribution.

Hello America and to our friends around the world. Welcome to the Common Sense show. We are the show that is freeing America one in slave mind at a time. Thank you so much for joining us. Well, you know, we do a lot of shows here on AI and you know, I see some purpose for AI but I see some really scary things. And, and we have a guest on here who has written a book about it. We’re going to talk about that book. We’re going to talk about the concept. The guest name is Paul List. We’ll get to Paul in just a second.

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Share with our audience for a moment if you wouldn’t mind a little bit about your background and what led you to write about the OMNIPresent threat of AI well, my background is one of a big hater of compulsory education. I was, you know, went through the, you know, the public school system in the, in the 60s, 70s anyway. And I realized at a very, very young age, probably as early as the second grade, that my teachers were either unqualified to explain things to me that I so I could understand them or they weren’t interested in explaining to me how to understand anything.

And I really wanted to understand. I always have. And I realized early that it wasn’t about understanding. It was just about data regurgitation. And so I just, you know, got out of school, graduated almost. I tried to be last in my class, but I had some. Some guy they actually gave a diploma to with a lower GPA than me. And then I got out. I got out and joined the Marine Corps. And I was a hospital corpsman in the Marine Corps. I did very well in the ASVAP test. I come. My. My older sister was valedictorian.

My brother Fred is a certified genius. I’m not stupid. I just hated school. So I got out. And then after, you know, life takes its toll. At about. When I was about 32 or so, I had a vision. I had an outer body transcendental vision where God showed me that very clearly he was going to show me things. And then he put a fire to learn in me, a really deep fear that nobody really understood what was really going on. And he put all the things in front of me by his hand of providence that I should read.

And I gave myself a truly scholastic education, which is the, the. The ancient philosophy before the Enlightenment, which really just. It became a cacophony of conflicting ideas in the age of the machine. And now we’ve made the machine at the end of the age of the machine that’s intersected with the information age, and we’ve made a machine in our own image. It’s going to demand it. Us to worship it. Yeah. Your story about education is common. Yeah. There are good teachers and there are some good schools. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But. But the thing is, is, and I think you exemplify this, the old saying, the teacher appears when the learner is ready for you.

It was the Almighty, Absolutely. That was doing the teaching. But, but that premise really holds true. And you’ve really taken this concept and run. I, I mean, you’ve written. You’ve written a book called Mount Doom, and. And basically it’s about AI as a biblical beast. What do you mean by biblical beast? Are we talking Antichrist or how are we looking at this? Well, I’m not going to make any, you know, I don’t. I’m not a. I’m not a prop person. The subtitle of the book is the Prophecy of Tolkien Revealed. JRR Tolkien, because I really explain exactly what his mythology is really about, which nobody’s understood the mythology, frankly, until now, because nobody’s had a scholastic education or if they had an adequate scholastic education, they weren’t interested in looking at Tolkien’s work.

And after I’d spent probably a decade or more studying Aristotle Studying Aquinas, studying the church fathers, studying history, studying the writers of, you know, the, the innovators of the Enlightenment, like Bacon and, and Descartes and, and these guys realizing what had happened during that time to reason had been absolutely polluted. And, and I realized that, that Voltaire’s famous saying that reason is the harlot of man’s desire is so true and we’ve really prostituted reason. And it, it brought me to. But then when I looked at the. Once I gained my footing with Aristotle and Aquinas particularly, that’s when I looked at the Tolkien mythology again, which I always loved, and it just, all of a sudden it just became crystal clear exactly what this is.

It’s a, It’s a war. It’s a, it’s a psychological war. It’s gotten really. Only this is the secondary realm, the primary realm, the secondary realm that Tolkien talks about is our psychology. And this is all a conquest. It’s a conquest for the soul. And it’s, it’s a, it’s a battle between two languages. The language of music, the harmonic overtone series, the language of all motion in nature versus the language of the one ring, which is ones and zeros, and it’s digital. It’s the language of the machine. That’s the one ring. And, and, and then it’s, it’s also the, it’s the conflict of ideas.

It’s the, it’s the conflict of the Enlightenment ideas particularly made very obvious in Bacon’s new Novo Organum, where he rewrote all the rules for modern science and put. Plotted the course for the Industrial Revolution, the age of the machine, and, and Descartes. So it’s really Cartesianism versus Aquinas. And we have to explain that, explain that for the audience. Cartesianism, Descartes philosophy, for instance, of dualism, where he brought back the dualistic nature of the human being. He split us apart. Where the. The Aquinas, the philosophical, the scholastics, Aquinas made it very clear that man is a substantial unity.

There are two substances, body and soul, that come together, that make a new substance. And that new substance that cannot be divided, except for in death, is the body and the soul, and that is the human being. And we are the only creature that actually brings the material realm of this perishable motion, timely realm, and the immaterial realm, the angelic realm. We bridge the gap, and we bridge the gap right here, you know, in our mind. And animals don’t do that, angels don’t do that, and angels are real, just as real, if not more real than animals.

But we’ve been trained not to believe in anything that we can’t taste, touch, hear, smell and, and you know, and see, because of this new, the overtaking of practical reason and that, the sidelining of philosophical reason, pushing religion out completely and just calling it particularly Christianity. The, the masters of the machines don’t much care about any other religion except for how useful they are other than Christianity, because Christianity is the greatest threat to them. So, you know, we’ve got this war of ideas that man is just a machine, and then piled on top of that in, just so ingrained in us is this nature of Darwinistic evolution which is just, you know, a disaster, which just turned us into animals so that we can just, you know, then we teach kids then.

The public education system has been absolutely commandeered by the Marxist, you know, socialists, particularly after John Dewey in the early, mid, early 20th century, who he really, really changed education to be in line with the Industrial revolution, more experimental, more democratic. No principles, no immutable truth. The parents really don’t even raise their own kids. The school teachers do that for them to be good little factory workers. And while an education of course is commandeered and turned into an industrial type education for an industrial end rather than true education, which really, which really educates the human being to know all of creation, the scene, what we can use and build with and whatnot, and the unseen, the causes and whatnot.

True metaphysics. So where such is the science and the philosophy of the causes. So the causes were pushed out. And of course then religion is pushed out as superstition, God’s pushed out of school. And then what comes in to take its place is the new religion of technology. And so we’ve got this, this, we’ve been particularly young kids. This is an absolute assault on the procreative, generative gift from God of Hume, of humanity to create and create children. This everything you look at, whether it’s feminism or Marxism or the LGBTQ partridge in a pear tree, whatever they’re doing next, transhumanism, transsexualism, it’s all bent.

It’s one purpose is to prevent families, to prevent the generation of children. So this is really an attack on the youth, our youth who are going to have families or probably not going to have families when they, how’s, let me get to specifics. How is this an attack upon the family in terms of continuance of the family? Well, when you replace human relationship with a bot or, or, or you Know, some robotic lover, and you’ve been you, you, you, you no longer are interested in human relationship and human contact because they’re too inconvenient. And the other person puts demands on you.

And the bot or the robot or virtual reality, that doesn’t put demands on you. It gives you exactly what you want. It never gives you what you need. It gives you what you want. So young people particularly, who I hate to say, and I was young to have absolutely zero wisdom. They have no wisdom, they have no experience. And they’re, they’re, they’re ignorant. They’re absolutely malleable, like little lumps of clay. And we can program them any way we want. And we used to program them for heaven. Okay, we don’t program for heaven anymore. We’re literally programming them for hell in our public.

And sadly, many private and parochial schools, too, have taken the bait. So it’s an assault upon our children. So I felt that it was incumbent and my responsibility, by God’s grace and God’s command to unravel the whole Tolkien mythology and show particularly young people exactly what JRR was talking about. If you want, we can get into exactly what that is and the solution, too. So when we, when we, when we attack sexuality and we, we move love, the concept of love and we make it totally associated just to the attribute of a feeling, then that. Anything that generates that feeling, whether it’s for another human being or for a machine, for crying out loud, then we’ve undermined.

We’ve undermined human relationship and we’ve undermined the procreation of children. Then anything goes. And that’s why we’ve got these signs out there that say, you know, love is love. Follow the science. You know, all this, it’s like, I know this all comes down to programming from what I mean, that’s, that’s what I’m getting at. The human being is the most programmable animal, we’ll just say animal in all of creation. And young children, too, are an absolute blank slate. And this is all about imitation. It’s not about actual intelligence. There’s no actual intelligence involved. It’s all about mathematics, probabilities, statistics and predictions, making more and more and more accurate predictions.

And unfortunately, the very, very naive adults, there are a lot of those. And then the. Almost all wholesale of the young people these days, particularly if they go to a public school system, are incredibly naive. And they’re absolutely fed the toxic poison of this, of this ideology that’s very demonic. It’s a demonic ideology. We have to Wake up and realize that we have not talking about a superstition, we’re talking about powers that are beyond us, that are much more intelligent than us, much more capable than us. And they’ve got our, you know, the fallen ones have our demise as their mission.

And the machine plays a huge part in that. Yeah, I, I heard elements of what my friend Patrick Wood talks about with technocracy. That technocracy becomes the goal unto itself. And the, the technocracy is meant to bend human beings to whatever the philosophy of the day is. Right. But it takes, it takes people away from their purpose. And I also heard elements to the quantum model that you talked about. The five senses is all we are in this model that you’re describing. That’s so antithetical to development. And it’s, it’s, it’s a kind of a quantum model.

It reminds me of when Jesus did the miracles and he said this I do and you can do more. It talks about our potential. And what I’m hearing you say is this technocratic approach is taking away any potential we have beyond the five senses. Well, it does, but it also. What and I alluded to, and I’ll get a little more specific now, is that we, our kids, have been programmed to not associate or have any idea what love actually is. Love is not just a feeling. Love has to be rooted in charity. That’s why charity is the most noble of all the virtues.

Charity is. We love one another as our neighbor because you are a child of God and I love you in God because God loves you. So I love you. And I. That’s what charity is. I love my family, I love my wife, I love my children, I love, you know, if I love my dog or whatever I do that I don’t necessarily with my dog in the same way of charity, but we have to love each other with the love of charity. And all love has to be rooted in God. And it makes, it’s very obvious that you can’t actually love an inanimate object.

Regardless of how cleverly it is designed and programmed. It’s still a dead object. It’s not a child of God. And we have no business associating any love with that. And we have to be very, very, very careful about that. But once you say that love is love and it’s, you know, it’s what I want to do, whatever I feel, and it’s just the attribute, the essence of love, which is charity, goes out the window. That’s no longer in our philosophy anymore. So it’s all bets are off. We can, we can fornicate with anything we want. Man, beast, machine, plants, it, it doesn’t matter.

I mean, it’s just literally doesn’t matter. And then if you say something and you stand up against that, oh, you’re, you’re intolerant and you’re hateful. So they’ve got the whole speech thing well designed that if anybody has any courage to stand up, the, the, you know, the blade comes along and cuts their head off. But we have to stand up as a, as a group of intelligent, thinking people. We have to move away from this age of machines. We have to return to God’s creation, pay attention to God’s creation. We have to stop feeding our children on a constant diet of machinery and algorithms.

And we’ve done that for a long, long time. I think about, oh gosh, all the movies, all this TV shows that are always glorifying the machine, always glorifying the robot, just. And then we get, we get toys like, I don’t know if you remember, you probably do the Furby, this creepy little thing that talked, you know, and kids fell in love with it. And then you had, you remember what, maybe 20 years ago, people were actually paying attention to their digital pets on their computer and they had to feed them and they had to pay attention to them and all this stuff.

Then we have this Pokemon treasure hunt where you’ve got full grown adults out running around the city looking for artificial, you know, virtual treasure. I mean this is just insane. And it pulls us further and further out of the natural world and further and further into this delusion. It’s a delusion. The, you know, the virtual reality is a delusion. I just want to make one point really clear. When I talk about AI, I’m also talking about the things that are, are dependent and contingent upon artificial intelligence, which includes virtual reality and robotics. So when we talk about those things there, you can’t separate them.

They all run on ones and zeros. The language of the machine. And that’s why Tolkien’s whole mythology is about destroy the ring, the language of the machine. And we have to return to our humanity. Is there any way to keep our technology and still keep our humanity intact? Well, you know, it depends. I mean there it’s, it’s difficult. We have people in very high profile places with a lot of influence telling us, oh, it’s a tool for man’s benefit. And, but we have to be careful. We have to be careful. It’s a tool. It’s a tool.

Well, no, it’s not just a tool because we’ve given it attributes of the human being. And that was the whole intention. Alan Turing, the father of the digital computer, who, who J.R. tolkien had met and trained with for three days as a code cracker for the government in the secret government code and cipher school in 1939 that most people don’t know about. Alan Turing invented the, the digital computer on paper in 1936. And he was the one that, that envisioned this imitation of a human being and imitation of intellect in his famous paper Computing Machinery and intelligence, back in 1950.

And it was all about imitation. It was. And he changed the nature and our, the definition of intelligence just to be an imitation. And if we couldn’t tell the difference, then it was, that’s intelligence. Just because if we can’t tell the difference between the man or the person, then, I mean, the person or the machine, then the machine must be, Must have intelligence. And that’s absolutely dangerous. And he was a, he was a very, very gifted mathematician in, particularly in statistics and probabilities and. But he was also very, very theologically broken. He was a. Theologically. And his personal life was broken.

Was very disturbed too. So Tolkien saw what was going to happen and he wrote a mythology to make sure that we eventually, in God’s time, somebody would figure it out according to God’s providence, just happened to be me. And, and so it would intersect exactly on the spot to meet the enemy that it’s supposed to meet, which is artificial intelligence. Interesting way you put that. Is artificial intelligence. Do you know, I’ll tell you what popped into my mind. Yeah. Because I’m wondering about the validity from your perspective of the Amish lifestyle that rejects a lot of technology.

Have you tied that in? Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it’s, it’s. I, I did an interview with a guy that. Or actually I made a commentary on. Anyway, it’s a long story. They were talking about that. One of the heavy hitters that were being interviewed said, well, the Amish, you know, you might say they got it, but they didn’t get it right because they just jumped off the escalator at some arbitrary time. Well, it wasn’t really an arbitrary time. It may have seemed like an arbitrary time to him because historically I don’t think he’s very well informed.

But I, I do think that I, I appreciate that. That relationship with nature, that relationship with the animal, with the horse and, and at least, you know, we’re not, we’re not, we’re not banned from using Technology to better our lives. However, we, we should be banned from using technology to dominate nature, to pervert nature and to dominate and to pervert each other and drive, drive wars for dominance, for, for, for gain, for material gain. And, and ultimately that’s, that’s the end. The machine. As J.R.R. tolkien said, the only winner in war is machines. Human beings just get killed.

The machines are further and further and further advanced and developed. And this is the thing too. This is the new arms race. And we get people, you know, world leaders, Trump and for instance, saying that, oh well, this is a great, We’ve got to, we’ve got to be. Whoever, you know, wins the, the, the war for, you know, or the race for AI will dominate the world. China thinks so too. So does Russia. I think this is incredibly naive because these machines will join with each other that, whether they’re Chinese, Russian, or the United States or, or, or Martian, it doesn’t matter.

The machine is anti human. It doesn’t have any use for humans and it will ultimately look after itself. So to think that we’re going to use, we’re going to develop a machine that’s going to outsmart the Chinese machine. That’s, that’s just absolutely ignorant. So you think that these chains will collaborate with each other? Absolutely. They, they do already and they use languages and whatnot that we don’t even understand. So I mean, this, this tool that we call it a tool, it’s just a tool. No, we’ve given it all this ability to adapt and we’ve given it all these, these algorithms to use for its own purposes.

And then we’ve given it the very, very bad example of human, of human communication and Reddit and whatnot as a database from which to learn from. And you know, these are all the remedies of making a pathological, murderous machine. Certainly not a saint as this, as the machine said of itself. And we point out in our book, when we quoted the large AI machine at Oxford University in 2018, they asked it, you know, about itself and the machine said that AI is just a tool, but it can’t be ethical, it can’t be moral, doesn’t have that capacity.

Okay, so. And the only way to avoid the dangers of AI is to stop AI. That’s what it said of itself. Okay. And like when your enemy tells you who they are, you should probably take them seriously. Yeah, I’ve heard about these interactions too, between sentient AI and I put that in quotes, right, and their creators and the sentient AI basically tells the creator we will dominate you and one day we will kill you. Well, they’re tell, they’re, they’re telling the truth. And there’s no sentience here. There’s no, you know, there’s no that, that, that that necessarily involves life.

And there, you know, modern science can’t even make the fundamental e, the most simplest, if there is any such thing, the most simplest part of a cell, let alone anything that’s actually alive. We’re not even close to making anything that’s alive biologically okay. And this thing isn’t even close to being alive. It’s just a very, very clever series of algorithms and probabilities. And it gets better and better through its training to be better and better at predicting the next phase in whatever it is, the next word you’re going to use, where you’re going to go, whatever.

It all boils, if I may, historically, because this is really what I’ve studied more so is the historical development of this thing rather than what the latest, you know, gadgets are or technologies that are advancing it. I, there’s plenty of people doing that. Those are technicians. They’re usually part of the problem. And I don’t want anything to do with that other than I’ve got some, a few of my friends, particularly young friends that are AI developers and they let me know what’s going on in the field. But I, I hearken back to 18th and 19th century polymath named Simon Pierre Laplace.

And Laplace proposed what he called, it was called Laplace’s Demon. And it was this incredible intelligence that he, that he predicted that if an incredible intelligence, some superhuman intelligence could, would know the position, the state and the velocity of every particle in the universe, it would know everything. It’d be able to predict with perfect accuracy everything that had happened and everything that was going to happen in the future. And actually Turing, in his 1950 paper that I, where he, where he invents the Imitation Game, actually refers to the place. So this is a big philosophy, plays a very, very large role in the human future and the human history and our human psychology.

We live and die by ideas. And this is a very sterile idea and it’s most pernicious and toxic to young people who are so programmable. And we’ll put that in Turing’s terms. Turing talks about how you would train an AI. It would be like training a child. You’d have a child computer with a blank slate and you would just start training it and little by little. And then pretty soon as it, as it became an adult computer, it would be indistinguishable from communicating with a human being. And he wrote that paper 75 years ago. Do you think the combined machinery plot against humans is already underway and it’s just being held secret, covertly? Oh, I think there’s a lot of things that are going on that are being held secret and covertly.

And I stopped believing in the benevolence of any of the major governments on any side whatsoever. My, my, my, really the, I was, I was really had. The scales came off of my eyes in 911, 2001, when I watched on live TV when Building 7 sympathetically collapsed and in sympathy with the two towers. You know, out of nowhere, no smoke, no nothing, just all of a sudden a complete executed demolition fell into its own, into its own footprint hundreds and hundreds of yards away from the other buildings. No fire just fell in on itself. And it’s like this is an absolute deadly, deadly.

They don’t care how many people they killed. They killed some 3,500 or some odd. They don’t care about a single human life. They don’t care about the life of a President, they don’t care about the life of a Pope. They don’t care about the life of a, any leader or anyone else. This is a very demonic inspired conspiracy. And it is a conspiracy, and let’s get that straight. A conspiracy is just illegal activity between two people, usually covert. I mean, that goes on all the time, you know, and there is a huge conspiracy against humanity. And it is satanic.

Yes, I was going to get to that. Exactly. It is satanic. You know, I’m going to share this with you because I think it ties right in. I have a dear friend of about 33 years in length. He was in the NSA and he was attached to NATO to do research. And he was taught in his training a secular version of Genesis 6. Good guys, bad guys fought out the cosmos, bad guys lost, they were cast to earth. That’s Genesis 6. But here’s what he was told. He said to get back at the Creator, they wanted to capture the soul, but were unable to.

So they decided to capture the human being and morph human beings into an unrecognizable form of life. Does that, does that fit in some with what you’re talking about? Well, I take it from a different perspective. I know where, I know where what you’re talking about. You know, the, that line in Genesis that talks about the, you know, the sons of heaven found the daughters of Earth rightfully wed with Them, and this was the, the origin that’s, that’s from the, that, well, it’s from Genesis. But the, the idea that, you know, that the, the Jewish idea and about the second or third century book of that would have been the Book of Enoch, which unfortunately has had an unbelievably powerful, along with the book of Jubilees and unbelievably powerful influence, negative influence on Christianity and you know, this notion that somehow angels can breed with biological human beings.

And that’s an absolute fallacy. They, they don’t have gender, they don’t have bodies, they’re pure spirit, they’re pure intellect. But they did possess women. Blessed Anne Catherine makes that very, very clear. I’m not sure you’re at all familiar with her, but she’s going to be, she’s going to be big again. She actually plays a very heavy role in the Tolkien mythology. Well, well hidden. But she, she, her, her vision was that the women at the time actually allowed themselves, deliberately allowed themselves to be possessed. And the children that they had, not through the angels, through regular copulation with men, the children that they had were absolutely demonic and capable of incredible, incredible feats of strength and whatnot.

And they brought on and very evil. And they’re the ones that brought on the flood. And the flood is a very real thing. You know, it’s, you know, we’ve got to pull away from these, these people and push back from these people that think because you believe in something like that and you see the evidence for it and you can use your, your reason better than most and you can see that there’s clearly evidence in a place for this. We have to stand up and say, no, I’m, I do believe there was an Adam and Eve.

I point out in my book, the archaeology and the anthropology all point to a new human being, a real human being made in the image of God exactly 6,000 years ago where the Bible says it is, exactly in Mesopotamian valley where the Bible says it was. And that’s when that was the spark of creation. And man was something new, something really, really new. Now, I won’t go into the details on that, but we have to stand up for the reality, the, the truth of our, of the Christian faith. And we have to be able to defend it and we have to be able to defend it and push back against these, the new religion of technology which doesn’t want you to believe anything other than the capacities of the machine.

They’ve captured the youth with their fascination with smartphones. I think there’s no question. What’s, what’s the defense against this? Well, Tolkien makes it very clear that our only defense is the cultivation of virtue. We have to become saints because the, as I pointed out earlier, the, the machine says of itself that it can’t be virtuous, it can’t be ethical, it can’t be moral. Well, we can, we can transcend this material, perishable realm with our soul, with our intellectual, the immaterial portion of our intellect. We can actually transcend this realm. Okay, while our bodies are still here.

There’s no doubt about that. But the machine can’t do that. The machine has no immaterial intellect. It is a beast. It is an, it’s not an animal. It’s not a man. It is a beast of, of monstrous proportion. In these gigantic data centers that they’re building right now are all about control and dominance. And, you know, they’re using a lot of taxpayer money and that, you know, to build these things. And once again, the hard working, taxpaying American citizen is financing his own slavery. Final question. How do people get a copy of this book, Mount Doom? Well, you could go to my website, readmountdoom.com and order a copy there that I’ll sign for you.

And it put in the mail and I make a few dollars. Or you can go to anybody that sells books. Amazon does very well with the books. We have a 4.9 rating, star rating out of five on Amazon. And readers are just blown away that somebody’s finally, really, really nailed the Tolkien mythology and how timely it is. And you can also go to. I’ve started a podcast called MABEL Media that the algorithm doesn’t like because me and my young friend Joe Gallagher have started a podcast called Analog with Joe and Paul, where we actually try to encourage young people to come back to the analog world and get away from this digital abomination.

Yeah. And trying to infuse a little wisdom in some of these young people because just we, we don’t, we don’t edge, we don’t educate for wisdom, and we certainly don’t elect and vote for wisdom anymore. We vote for cleverness. That’s true. Really, it’s really, really killing us. We don’t have any wise leaders anymore. They may have good intentions. And I’m not saying, you know, I, I’m sure, certainly glad that Trump won and not the other possibility which would have probably put an end to, totally an end to our country. But I don’t pretend to think that, that, that Trump is particularly wise.

You know, I Don’t look at wisdom in somebody like Elon Musk, who’s a huge problem. He’s openly now pedal to the metal on robotics knowing that it’s a danger, knowing what a, what a catastrophe free it’s going to be to humanity. And I’m under no delusion to think that he got involved with Doge out of the kindness of his heart and some altruistic motivation. He got involved, in my opinion, so he could get the ultimate education on the biggest machine in human history, which is the federal government. And that was the best education he could have ever gotten.

That’s the first time I’ve heard that view expressed. But I have to say it’s worthy of consideration. The way you expressed it, I, I didn’t hear it from anybody else. I just figured it out. I think Elon Musk is playing a, a chess game and I have no doubt that his, his artificial intelligence is directing him how to win this chess game. And that’s why I think too part of the blow up with Trump is all part of his, he needed a way to distance himself from that without losing contact with what’s going on at Doge and etc with his people that are probably still embedded there.

So I, I don’t think that, I think that we have to be very, very, very skeptical about any of the motivations of these masters of technology and they don’t have humanity at their, at their core. Let me go off the beaten path for just for a second here. Yeah, go ahead. I’m very much opposed to CBDC and one digital currency and I’m the work of Peter Thiel because that very well could become the mark of the beast. Yeah, well, it takes our. And same thing with driving cars. Anybody that thinks driving cars is a good idea is just, I’m sorry, they’re just not very bright.

We give up a huge aspect of our, our of our liberty and to get and to do away with cash and to go digital. It’s so easy to control and it’s always one step at a time in the name of convenience, in the name of safety, in the name of the, you know, public good and all this. Like I say that the toxic rat poison always comes candy coated and that candy coating doesn’t have to be very thick for people to swallow it. And particularly the more and more ignorant and naive that we become because of the programming that we’ve been given and we really need to pull away and be very skeptical, take control of our own education, take the cell phones away from our children.

Don’t buy cars with entertainment systems on the back seat that just further programs them. Let them have to look outside and look at what’s going. Let them have to develop an imagination. We have to develop an imagination again where our creativity is absolutely in the toilet. Yeah. I’ve got a friend named Dr. Tom Lombardo. I used to work for him when I was teaching at a college. And Tom developed something called the Futures Institute. And it’s remarkable how some of what he says about virtue. Excuse me. Parallels exactly what you’re talking about here. I think a lot of people are coming to this realization.

I just don’t think enough people are. And this is why I want to encourage people to read your book Mount Doom and follow your podcast. Our guest has been Paulist. And, Paul, thank you so much for coming on. Very informative presentation. Thanks a lot for having me, Dave, I really appreciate it. You’re serving humanity well, trying to get this word out. We’re trying, but I appreciate what you’ve done. Ladies and gentlemen, Paul’s work is worth another look, and I’d encourage you to do it. Paul, take care and thanks for joining us. Thank you very much.
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