Jon Dowling Jim Pugh Discuss Major Global Reset Biblical Implications

➡ Today’s podcast guest, Jim Pugh, shares insights about the global financial reset from both private and public perspectives. He explains that for the reset to occur, the world needs to be at peace and the financial system needs to collapse and be replaced with a new system based on stablecoin and tokenization. This process involves tokenizing all significant assets and shifting from the current system underpinned by central banks buying and selling U.S bonds to one backed by tangible assets like gold and silver. Jim also highlights the need for education about this new system and the distinction between the stock market and the economy.
➡ The speaker discusses the complexity of global financial shifts, comparing it to historical events like the wealth transfer in Egypt. They mention the Rothschild family’s influence, tracing their lineage back to the first Sanhedrin in Egypt. The speaker also talks about the revaluation of each country’s currency based on their assets, a process that has never been done before. They highlight the challenges of eliminating debt, resetting asset values, and addressing the issue of taxes and social security.
➡ The government is planning to return money to U.S. citizens with interest, using a tiered system based on age. This is to prevent sudden wealth from discouraging work and to stabilize the economy. The process is complex and requires a peaceful geopolitical environment before a new financial system can be implemented. The shift to this new system, backed by assets like gold, is expected to start in January, with the introduction of a new type of bitcoin backed by gold.
➡ The text discusses a shift in the financial system, moving from a corporation to a republic, with the use of stable coins and asset-backed currency. It suggests that this change will be gradual and complex, like a “financial lasagna.” The text also mentions the importance of peace and prosperity going hand in hand, and the need for people to regain control over their countries for true peace to be achieved. Lastly, it touches on the topic of Nasara Gesara, a proposed economic reform theory, and how it would apply to people living in different countries.
➡ The text discusses the complexities of international trade deals, currency exchanges, and the impact on green card and H1B holders in the U.S. It suggests that all treaties have already been negotiated and what we see now is just public disclosure. The text also explains the process of currency exchange during war and reconstruction periods, and how this has allowed certain elites to profit. Lastly, it questions the feasibility of a global retail currency exchange due to economic stability concerns.
➡ The speaker emphasizes the importance of discernment when consuming information online, and encourages listeners to focus on truth and faith. They mention their work on GodIsGovernment.com, where they share biblical studies and podcasts. They stress that hope and faith in Jesus Christ can help manifest blessings into the physical realm. The speaker also suggests that the upcoming months will bring significant changes, both financially and geopolitically.

Foreign welcome to the podcast. We have a very special guest today which we’re a privilege and honor to have, Mr. Jim Pugh, who is going to give us a very high level discernmental insight into the reset, both from a private and public perspective. What he knows, what he sees, what he can share and this is going to give a lot of you peace, clarity and confirmation is the ultimate goal here going forward in this new wealth transfer season and all the extenuations of it. If you’re new to the podcast, please do like subscribe and share. It helps the channel grow and others to gain in the knowledge you’re currently being afforded as we always do with first time guests.

I’m going to read Jim’s bio verbatim. James Jim’s Pugh is an MBA Life Coach and instructor of business related courses. For the past 35 years, Jim has studied the theological concepts of ancient scriptures as well as the practical applications in today’s world. In his business international travels, he took the time to speak to leaders of various religious denominations in order to create a perspective of cultural religious beliefs that we see today. Jim has taught at a spiritual perspective of world history and most recently has addressed the current spiritual war the world is experiencing today. Both in radio interviews and podcasts such as this, Jim lectures about spiritual concepts of history and continues to develop for himself an understanding of God’s roles, principles and laws and how they apply to the nasty, nefarious, chaotic world in which we live.

It is his sincerest hope that he may be a grain of sand with a loud voice to provide hope for all the people that may listen. And with that, Jim Pugh, welcome to the podcast. How are you today, good sir? I’m doing well, thank you. Thanks for your patience and for being here. So I’ll start you off at the top with the probably the most common question that you get all the time for people in the wealth transfer movement. When, when, when, how’s it happening? Why is it happening? What’s been holding it up? How do you respond to all that? Well, this has never been done before.

That’s, that’s the one thing. So there is no goal post or there’s no examples that we can go to to provide any clarity of the timing of this because again, this is never happened before. This is the first time in world history going back to ancient scripture. Why is it taking so long? Well, when you have, when you look at the, the treaty that is the foundation of all of world change events, especially the event of reshaping the financial World system. There were. There are some underlying requirements to even get that met. One of those underlying requirements, which is we’ve all talked about on any truther podcast, is the world has to be a piece.

So the first thing you need to look to is where are we at on that stage? Because until that completely happens, the event that we consider to be the reset cannot take place. So that alone sets a timeline of activities. And so if I were to look, if I were to state the major poll in the tent right now in regards to the overall global reset, now we’ll get into some of the details of that, but when we talk about changing the world currency and the financial system, the requirement with a long pole of the tent is the world has to be at peace.

So that’s the first thing. So everybody can follow that. All right, you can, you can say, okay, if that is a requirement, where are we at? Well, you can see where we’re at. You know, Trump settled, what, seven or eight individual wars right now, and the biggest two is Russia and Ukraine and Israel and Hamas. So those are two that we need to look towards for conclusion and peace, for the treaty to actually give us the ability to execute. And so everybody understanding that now can watch for those events. And when those events take place, then we know that we’re really, really close to what has been set forth as global reset.

Now, in backing up to that, there’s a lot of things that have got to happen in the process of that, and the biggest one is the collapse of the financial system as we know it today. And the process of getting that done so that basically it doesn’t provide world chaos is something that they’re working on. And you can understand that process a little bit if you, if you read about stablecoin, because stablecoin and tokenization is the process of the new system to allow for transaction flow. And that’s not all put in place yet. I mean, if you look at J, if you look at Jamie diamond, he’s going through a process of tokenizing all of his assets.

If you go through Black Rock, they’re going through a process of tokenize all their assets. They. That process has got to get far enough along that we have all of the significant assets tokenized now that your house is going to be tokenized, your car is going to be. All of these things are going to be tokenized. But we don’t have to get to that level for the new system to come on board. But you have to get to a level of. Of majority so that you have the system in place to migrate through transaction processing and you can begin to.

Now since your audience now understands that that is a critical element of the new system being the entire back office of transactions, you now can watch the activities associated with stablecoins and tokenization because it’s public nukes. So you can get to that. So those are the two main driving points in all of this. But at part of this, and we got to now separate some things here, the financial system is, is set up to have the underpinning being the central banks buying and selling of U S bonds. It’s basically the financial network that up. That has the underpinning of all banks.

Well that’s got to shift to, shift to actually asset backed type of assets. Okay? Gold, silver, whatever the bank is going to quantify and put on its books as that. Now that’s, that’s a shift in Basel 3. And you now if you go to the end date when that is supposed to be online, that’s in November. Okay? So that’s another layer to this. All right. And when, when all of that happens, then education is our biggest nightmare. Because just like you’re trying to do with your audience, everybody’s trying, everybody is in the need of having more and more education.

The, the matrix system of the elite control did not provide us that in our formal education we have no idea about what’s going on, where it is or whatever. So we’re out trying to educate people. And in doing so, part of that education is understanding that the stock market is not our economy. All right? Our economy is gnp. It’s the growth. It’s all of those things that go into that. But the stock market is not, it’s a pyramid scheme. So what we, what has to happen is when the tokenization and stablecoin process gets far enough along, which means that all of the assets, the, the companies who are trading on the stock exchanges worldwide have to be tokenized.

All right? That’s a big task. And in doing so then the shift that if you look at it from a pro programmatic standpoint, the shift from where we’re at today to where we’re going has got to go through this process of tokenization so that when they do take down the financial system, which means the stock markets, they have something to go right into the process called stablecoin and can prop up a value of the assets that are in the stock market that are tied to true assets. Now if, if you look at the market, you, you understand that what the elites did, the cabal the central bank to make money is they created phantom stock.

Now by day and Wall street, long, long time ago, those are called derivatives. And in the derivative market, that’s phantom stock. It’s based upon the profits of other stock and they, they, they multiply it so that they get, you know, this fake earnings thing and they get it out on the market and sell it. Well, that market is a complete loss and it’s about $6,000,000,000 of loss that is unbooked. So one other thing that you can watch for is the shift in the banks and the reckoning, recognization of the losses that they have to take because of their investments in this derivative market because that’s going to take the banks down, that’s going to bankrupt all of the banks.

So that’s another poll in the tent that you can watch for. Okay, as to timing wise, when is that going to occur? Somewhere downstream. But it’s going to occur, it has to occur because it’s all built upon a Ponzi scheme of fake assets, fake earnings and a currency that has no value. So that is another process in this, in this whole scheme of things that’s got to take place. So I’m trying to give, try, I tried to give you an answer of some specifics, but in all those specifics there’s many, many, many tasks underneath those. But if you follow, if you’re savvy enough to do your own research, you can follow the significant events as they occur in this process of getting to the end result.

Does that help? Completely. And, and this kind of stuff is nuance. It takes, my audience understands, as does yours, that you can’t just say this, this, this because it’s just too big, it’s too vast and deep and it does need articulation. As you said, it’s unprecedented. I thank you for that. Jim. As, as you shared, I was thinking about, like you said, it’s never happened before. The closest thing I think we have historically, from my experience, is the days of Joseph when we saw that, well, transfer and that was, you know, one country, well, two countries, Egypt and Israel.

Israel, but primarily Egypt. This blows that out of the water because this is the entirety of the whole world shift, as you rightly pointed out. So you know, there’s, there’s some commonalities of that in today. Please let me, let me add the biblical side to this. If you go back in history and look at the bloodlines, what you’re going to find is that the, the system head, that basically the, the control Family is the House House of Rothschild. And the Rothschild’s bloodline goes all the way back to the first Sanhedrin that came into Egypt to manage the finance of Pharaoh.

So what happened at Egypt when the Israelites exited slavery? God says, I’m going to give you all of your wealth back, plus the spoils of the time that you were in slave. Which is. That’s exactly what happened. Fast forward to today. The Rothschild’s bloodline was part of the Sanhedrin. Then they went all the way in through Rome. And the Rochel’s name at the time of the Sanhedrin during the Roman Empire was called bakar. And in 1570 they changed their name to Bower. And in 151501 they changed their name to B. In 1570 they changed their name to Rothchild.

And that’s what they’ve been under to today. So everything that happened in Egypt is going to happen here. It is a 2.0 scenario. Biblically, like Solomon said, nothing new under the sun. Right? And then you take Jim, Leviticus 25:9 to 12, the, you know, a dead jubilee in the, in the Jewish calendar every 50 years, bringing it back. Family, inheritance, land, all that, like you said, it all culminates. So it’s fascinating. As you said, history repeats itself and yet beyond replicates it. It exponentially goes into a whole other realm which is so exciting. But again, it’ complex and has many webs and nuances which you’ve explained.

So I appreciate that. So let’s take to get back to your bio. People are hearing, you know, my audience for the first time saying, okay, this, this gentleman is learning, he’s knowledgeable, he’s been around the block, we get that. But give me a little rope. I want to, I want to word this in such a way that is diplomatic and doesn’t compromise you in any way. You have certain knowledge bases. So most people are in the public side of the exchange, whereas some of us are in the non public side of things, we’ll put it that way.

And because you have a purview into that world, it gives you a higher perch from which to see things, is what I was driving at. So you’re free of dates and rates here. We don’t do that here. If you’ve watched our podcast, you’re, you don’t have to worry about that. But what we want to get people to understand is the research, the timelines, the puzzle pieces, the historical elements which you’ve provided some scope of that to understand where we can see things. Right. So Two questions. The first one is you mentioned November. I know ISO 20022 factors into that, I believe.

I’m not mistaken. November 22nd is the bank release date. Can multiple things, like you said, there’s things that have to happen on both fronts. Can multiple things happen and coexist in the same space? Yeah, because they’re independently on a project timeline. They’re not. The only thing that is tied to this is the long pole in the tent. Like I stated the piece, the, the treaty that was signed by all countries to do this shift requires all countries to be at peace. So that is the only thing that is really the long pole in the tent. Because once, if that’s not resolved until December, we’re out in December.

Okay. If it’s resolved earlier, then all things take shape after that point. But that’s truly the long pole in the tent because the majority of what has to happen in the financial system is either already done or it is being worked on. And you can, you can see it in the public where it’s at. Okay. Stablecoins and tokens, those things are out in the public today. So those are elements of that. Now the other thing is, is revaluation of it of each country’s currency. Well, back in 2000, I want to say 17, it might be 18 for.

I’m sorry because I, I had to state in, in my mind. But it’s either one of those two years, Google with its Google Map did a complete survey of every country identifying all of the country’s in ground assets. Why is that important? Because that value of those assets which have been financially certified, that value of that assets in that country is part of what goes into the value of determining that country’s currency. Right. You’re going to take all the value of your assets. You’re going to say okay, how much, how many, how much currency am I going to issue? You’re going to say, okay, then I take the, the assets divided by the amount of currency and that gives me an amount of assets by currency.

Right. That’s just straight math. So every country had to go through that and then every, every country then had to take that. Two out of nine countries had to negotiate a treaty with each country as to what their value of their currency was going to be against that country. That’s never been done before. Okay, so you got 200. Everything was done on the petrodollar. Right. Whatever the petrodollar is. I trade, blah, blah, I, and I don’t do that in country. I use my own currency. But if I’m trading in the world, then I got to use the petro dollar.

Well, now you have 209 countries that are, have to have one on one trade with 209 countries. Do you see the complexity in that? Okay, so every country’s got to have a, have an agreement with all 209 countries. So that’s 209 countries time. 209 countries to get that is a long process because that requires you to balance. That’s another thing that has happened over five years. It’s taken five years to get that done. Another thing in, in that is, is the fact that this thing called debt. All right? Because when you. We didn’t have any true debt until Nixon took us off the bill.

Stamina. Why? Because it was valued in an asset back. Now we have all this debt. So in this process of reshaping the world, you have to, you have to figure out how to eliminate the debt in the process. Well, that is done in the treaties, the trade agreements, country by country. So when Trump has negotiated with other countries a trade agreement, in that trade agreement is whatever that country or we hold in debt, you know, of each other, it is eliminated in that process. That’s another big deal. Okay? Because how do you eliminate that? What’s the value of it? Another thing that they have to do is they have to remove the inflation out of our financial assets.

Okay? Your house, when you bought it, is automatically increased by a formula set by the central bank in order to get more taxes. They control every, every amount that you’re going to pay for milk, for eggs, for bacon. They control it all. They set this inflated condition inside the stock market. So at some, when, when this whole thing happens, there’s got to be a reset of asset value. If you bought your house for $250,000 in the inflated system, it’s not going to be worth $250,000 when it comes out. Okay, now what I’m trying to give you complexities here.

What do you do to offset that homeowner’s loss of value that they’re dependent upon for retirement? That was another thing that had to be considered in this. The other thing is, okay, everything that we’ve paid into the system in taxes, Social Security, Medicare, is setting in a trust fund in our name with our account number being our Social Security number. They can’t touch it. So everything that we paid into it, we are the creditors. They owe it back to us. So how are you going to do that? Okay, and then the other complexity is what happens On a generational issue, you got five generations that have this and they’ve got to perpetuate all the way through to the current day environment.

So they had to go through a process, they being the government, had to go through a process of how are you going to return money to the citizens of the United States? To one, give them their money that they have put into the trust back with interest and two, how do you handle all of this inflationary reduction of asset values? So instead of looking at everything generationally, they have just come up with a flat number and saying, okay, if you’re this age, this is what you’re going to get. If you’re at this age, below that to that age, you’re going to get this amount.

If you’re below that, you’re going to, you know, they’ve tiered it so that they can maintain the other complexity, maintain the workforce, because if everybody gets wealthy overnight, nobody’s going to want to work. So they had to put parameters into how they’re going to return this money back to the citizens of the United States along with incentivizing them to continue to work in order to receive these benefits. You got to stabilize your economy. All that has got to, oh, that had to be taking place. All of that stuff had to get done. So, so when you look at this in its complexity and you can’t, you can’t look at it details, you’re going to get totally lost and frustrated.

You got to look at it at the 60,000, 60,000 foot level and understand that there’s, there’s points in time that you can visually see in what’s going on in the mainstream to see how close they’re coming to that. And when they come to that, then you know, okay, those dots are done and now we move on to the long pole in this tent where we at on the peace in this world and so forth and so on to get to the point where the reset can happen. Now the only thing that’s tied geopolitically to the reset is peace.

Okay. So all of the things going on geopolitically to remove the corruption from every government has its own timeline outside of the reset. So the only crossover that we can talk about is the fact that the geopolitically, the world has to be at peace before the new financial system, currency goes into place. Great, thank you for that. So I’m going to tie in, just for the sake of time, our audience and yours of course, respectively, a couple of things because I think we can, our audience and you and I can delve at a high enough level, I think you hope we can appreciate and see that.

So, you know, you talked about getting everything back with interest, right? And our audience is aware of that. With the tiered system, Joel 225 comes to mind Biblically, everything back that the Locust stole. Plus, right. Plus. And it gives you multiplication numbers, right? Right. This thing is, this thing is hotter and bigger than anybody can realize. One of the things I always tell my audience, Jim, repetitively, is if God can trust your heart, I don’t mean your frequency and all that spiritual stuff. I mean, if he can trust what you’re going to do that you tell people you’re going to do, but you’re actually planning to do.

Right? Because Bible says the heart is wicked. Who can know it? He knows it. He can trust that. Not have to worry about numbers and all that and being caught up in. Well, this person said, the rate is this and this. It’s too much distraction and it gets you off the focus of what really matters, which is him. So President Trump has got some big events this week. You know, as you know, he’s, he’s speaking today in the Oval Office. He’s got Rosh Hashanah tomorrow at the Useless Nations. I used to live by there on Dag Hammershold, Area 46 and second, if you know the area, or Murray Hill, New York City.

So I’ve, I’ve put my views in there and I lived a block from that area, so I, I know the energy, nefarious energy, like you. Well, he’s going to be sticking it to the deep state tomorrow, big time. Then you have however many thousands of shofars blowing in Israel on Wednesday, and then Thursday, he’s meeting with Erdogan to make a trade deal. One of the countries you talked about. That’s vital, as you know, because Turkey provides a lot of the water rights to Iraq, not to mention helping with the Kurdistan region, the largest single block, 16% of the oil revenues, part of the assets in the ground.

So with that said, Jim, the next question is President Trump said, I don’t know how you’re. I’m just talking to you for the first time, but I tend to have a photographic memory, so I remember a lot of details that most people don’t think about. And President Trump said back in August, he said at the Oval Office, by December, January, the country’s economy is going to be rocking. He also said, we’re going to have a great Christmas, but we didn’t know which year. So putting all those pieces together as you do, can you articulate in your own words and thoughts why you think this year is cause for celebration for all of that? Well, because the golden age actually starts January 1st.

So in doing that, that means that, that the week before January 1st and the week after ought to be looked at as, as the shift, the shift in total wealth construct of the world to return back to the people that which they’re owed and to shift the, the world back to an asset base for a gold base process of continued wealth transfer over a period of time. Now you got, if your audience is tied to the MAGA movement, you’re going to understand that Trump, through the MAGA organization, has put out several bitcoins, different types of bitcoins, and mainly as focused on the bitcoin that’s going to shift the world as his gold bitcoin.

The bitcoin that we know in, in the stock market today is, has no assets behind it. It’s, it is, it is complete fiat and it’s going to crash, okay, just along with the rest of the market in time. So he is, he has presented to the market a bitcoin that is not something that is in a wallet phantomly available. It is a bitcoin that’s backed by gold that you can physically hold and all of that value of that coinage goes live January 1st. So what you, what you see from all the activity to support what you ask is Trump’s already put out, you know, the fact that the Nez or Jesus framework goes into effect January 1st.

He’s already put out that basically the golden age starts January 1st. He’s already put out that his transfer, which the guys on Wall street are saying they’ve never seen anything like this. This is a revol area type of process and it’s going to change the world. That all goes live and effective January 1st. So that’s the reason why I have with good intentions and knowledge that the December, January time frame is going to be big in regards to the start and finalization of the shift. Now, when I say finalization, let’s just talk. You cannot throw a switch on Nacera and Jasera and it all go alive at one time.

Just can’t happen. So when it starts, some of it’s already started, by the way. Okay, some of it’s already started. But when it starts, it has to coincide other events that have to go on, like when the market, the financial, financial system comes down, then the bankruptcy of the corporation of the United States is, is shifted into high gear of trans or transitioning from the corporation back to the republic. And in that transition debt has to be forgiven for all people. So when you can see how all of this lines up down the road. So, but all of this gets, is, is got, is getting going now.

There are things going on in the system now that is going to stabilize the economic side, which is important because as you move in that direction and you take down the banks, you’ve got to what I want to call prop up the economy side. So it’s all of the, the new financial system doesn’t come crashing down like 1929. So you’ve got to put this stuff in. So that stuff is going on now. Stable coin tokenization. Oh you can see all of that stuff’s going on now. So that basically they can actually put the underpinning back up into the economy to stable it while they bring down the financial system.

And when they bring down the financial system, then the new financial system comes in and all of the elements associated with the world changes go into play. Now that doesn’t mean that we have to wait for what’s called the asset backed currency. Right? Okay. Because the tokenization and stabilization, the stable coins are based upon a, a digital dollar amount tied to a stable total amount of fiat currency. So if they go in and knowing what this, because the printing presses were shut off November 2019, there’s been no money printed, fiat currency printed since that time. They know what is in the system that is valid.

So they’re, they’re, they’re tokenizing that they’re putting stable coins in for assets and blah, blah, blah. And so if they do that, then they can actually start the shift. And the shift is going from corporation to republic. They can start that shift at any time they want to when that underpinning is complete. And so therefore to us, okay, this is going to be some, whatever, probably revelation for your audience to us in the United States because the fiat dollar is, is going to be convertible on a one to one basis to the asset backed currency, whatever that looks like coming out.

We don’t, we shouldn’t care whether we get value returned to us in fiat money or asset backed currency because why it’s now got the underpinning of the new financial system as its basis of valuation. It’s a seamless transition essentially. Yeah. And as again you were sharing, Jim. The analogy that I’ve also shared with my audience in the past is this whole thing is like a financial lasagna. There’s just so many layers on steroids, you know. So now let’s back up what you said because again, there’s a nuance within the nuance. We got to break this stuff down like processing food.

It’s a process. So people are going to hear what they want to hear. And what you said, you know, they’re gonna go, oh my God, we’re waiting till December, January. That’s not what you said. And I think people need to understand and process that because before that happens, that’s for the normies to realize in the whole, excuse me, the whole of society to realize that. But for the non public, we’ll put it, that process has to happen much sooner to set things up. And what people forget in the annals of history, when you talked about educational system or the miseducation system to be precise, that’s going to be changing with quantum learning.

People forget in the Great Depression they talked about the 99% that suffered. They didn’t talk about the 1% that thrived. That turned things around. We in this position, our audience, you at the higher echelon are going to be a part of that 1% and hopefully increasing that quotient to get more people a seat at the proverbial table and to effectuate the GDP which helps the whole of society because a lot of us have intentions to, to bless our families, to bless homeless, the lonely, you know, go on and on and on. So since you’re a historian, I can see and a you’re going to call religious, I call a relationship a godly historian perspective.

You’ll also appreciate Kim Clement’s prophecies, the late great Kim Clement the they will fall in the fall. Well today is the first day of fall, not coincidentally, no coincidence in the kingdom. So I, I look at the time clock from today forward that the suffering is just going to continue to end. And you’re right, Nasara Jasara I had evidence of people sending me documents that their car loans or student loans, their medical bills, all this stuff is forgiven. JPMorgan Chase, you mentioned in Canada in 2019 forgave several people’s debts. So this has been a revolving or a continuation cycle.

So one of the things you mentioned also Jim, is the 209 countries and provinces. I’m really curious to get your take on this because I know, you know, from what you speak a lot of people are of the mindset that it all has to happen at once. But like you said, it took five years to get to this point. I don’t agree with that. I think that God’s people would be cut out if everything happened at once. And given the complexity, this thing has to unwind. So my question to you would be, and this is important equally with everything else, what would be the top countries in this first basket, bucket, whatever you want to call it, as people go to the banks, not some random 800 number, not some, you know, private buddy group, but just go to the banks.

For the general public, what countries would you be looking at in the first iteration of this to invest in, to be looking forward to as this thing rolls out in its cycle? Well, there’s two things I want to touch on because you said for them to invest in. Okay, that is, that’s something that wouldn’t give any advice on. I’m not an investment advisor, whatever. But if you talk about what countries need to work together initially to get this thing kicked off, I would say that you look at Brexit in the United States. Okay, okay, I, not, I mean, not Brexit, but all of the, all of the South Africa, all of the.

Russia, China, India. I mean, you want the, the countries that control 80% or better of the world economy has to go first, right? So we go. I agree. So you go back to Kim Clement’s prophecy. Inside of that, the Middle east and Southeast Asia, so Iraq, Vietnam, Zimbabwe, etc. Etc. How important? I, I think this is more of an obvious question, but I just want to get your take on how important. You talk about peace, right? Removing banker wars, where peace becomes the prize for prosperity. You know, you know, Trump’s first term, he restored Israel, now he’s bringing prosperity the nations in his second term.

Right. How important would you say, what am I trying to ask here? You know, peace being the prize. How, how important would you say that peace and prosperity kind of going, they kind of marry and go hand in hand together in this multi tiered process? Well, it’s, it’s. That is exactly what it’s going to do. Once it, once when peace is obtained, then prosperity is the end result. Okay. If you go back to biblical history, that’s exactly what happened when God stepped back in every time Israel did their thing and it came back in and got them back out and got them settled.

And what he did is give them the prosperity associated with what they needed as a nation to go. And then he turned it over to them saying, okay, let’s see what you do with it now. And they continue to, to go to the evil side of everything in their worship of idolatry. And then Christ just came. God just Came back and judged him again. Then he came back in and saved him again, gave him prosperity. So the process that we learn from history biblically is the same process that’s. Today I teach three Bible classes a week.

And what I, I, we’re living in the next chapter of Acts. That’s what we’re doing. All right. We people think that, that the Old Testament and all of the spiritual stuff is just like mythology because that’s what the, the matrix system wanted us to learn because if we knew who we are, they would be in trouble. So that’s what this awakening thing is, is to become spiritually aware of who you are and what you possess and how you get that. And in order for us to understand that in a lot of ways it’s the same thing that happened in the Old Testament time and time again with the Israelites.

So that’s what’s going to happen now. So it’s going to go hand in hand, I guess. Thank you. What I wanted to ask you, and I apologize, I was not articulate as I would like to have been, because I was trying to figure out how I was going to ask you. It isn’t part of bringing the peace, part of it removing the corruption. We see what’s happening with Maria Karina Machado in Venezuela. We see what’s going on with Iraq and all that. Nelson Chamisa in Zimbabwe. Wouldn’t corruption be part of removal of that, the underpinning for the public to see in order to bring that piece of.

Yes, yes. To answer your question straight out, yes. I mean it’s peace has to, peace has to have as its end objective giving back the people of this world control over their country. That’s peace. That if you want to define peace, that’s how I would define it. There’s elements going through all of this and whatever. But if you want to know when is peace done? It’s when the people of the world get control back of their lives within the countries that they live. Thank you. Now the other question I want to ask you is there’s a bit of confusion.

Hopefully you can clarify this and clarify everything else. You mentioned a tiered system here in America for American citizens with, with in regards to Nasara Gesara, the payouts and the rollouts, to be precise. What about people who came here from other countries as part of Gesara conditions that have to go back to their country, do they get their own pension there, separate from what or I should say pension payment tiered system? Do they get their own version of that like we’re getting here. Yeah, basically we have our own, but Gesar is global. And so if those people who are living in other countries have to go to their home country where they have citizenship to receive the benefits of that process.

So if we have all of these people that we have that have green cards and H1BS and everything in the United States, they’re not going to receive anything. The payouts and return of wealth to the citizens of the United States, they don’t get anything. If they’re going to get anything at all, they’ve got to go back to their home country where their citizen is to receive any benefits that they, that they get. Appreciate that. I just thought we need to separate back from fiction because I get that question a lot. And I wanted to ask somebody of your position now to clarify that.

Now this is just your own personal opinion. I’m not looking for an exact number because it’s hard to know, but given your history, breadth and depth of experience, so on and so forth, which you’ve clearly articulated here and beyond how many we have, we have President Trump, we talked about earlier is God or one coming in Thursday to make a trade deal there. And we talked about the importance of Turkey in relation to Iraq and the, the wheel, the cog of the wheel, continuation of the movement there. How many trade slash peace deals do you see President Trump roughly making in the remainder of this year to help move everything along? Okay, let’s, let’s now move from the concept of what is being revealed to us versus what’s already been taken place.

Now here’s what we bring Q at okay? Because everything that we see today is a movie. There’s over 500000 actors that have been hired to play parts worldwide in governments to complete the movie for disclosure to the peoples of those countries, even us. So when we understand that everything that we’re seeing play out in front of us has already taken place, therefore what we’re seeing is a continuous disclosure of, of providing to the public another piece of the puzzle. So if you look at what has already happened, we can’t be this far along in the system of implementation knowing where we’re at without everything already being done.

You can’t do that, okay. And not have rates that you know how you’re going to do this to migrate that out. If he doesn’t have all of the treaties done, then basically according to the treaty of agreement with all 209 countries, we can’t do this. Okay? So all of the treaties, all have already been done. They’ve already been negotiated. It’s been done. What we’re getting is the public disclosure. That’s what’s, that’s what we’re getting. So when you ask that question, I have to say two parts. One, all of them’s already been done. What else does he need to do to disclose to the public that these are done? EU okay.

It’s got to be finalized so forth. I mean there’s certain things that have to be done. Disclosure wise for the public to understand that we have, you know, we’re here but in the background behind the scenes. They’ve already been done. Yeah, yeah, that’s, that’s great. Thank you. Because that, because there’s like there’s two dynamics, right? There’s the, the, the behind the scenes reality and then the optical and where those two marry together. And looking at the puzzle pieces to do that. As you’ll recall Jim, back in the Kuwaiti dinar is a good demarcation point for everything today.

You’ve heard a million times they roughly had a 90 day cycle for the public exchange. Are we going to see that again for people when it’s their turn to go to the banks? 90 days to do it. Okay, so let’s talk about that please. And I’m going to do this because I’m a process guy and I’m going to go back to the beginning for educational purposes. Every war that has ever been fought where United States is taking over the territorial reign of that country to stabilize it and reconstruct it. We have always removed their currency from the marketplace.

Germany, Korea on that is just a process of the war activity. In those wars it was only the elite the that took that were able to get access to their old currency. Because in the process of reconstruction you have to allow the citizen of that country who’s still using the old currency are US Dollars in its place. But it’s simult, it’s, it’s one to one, you have to allow those citizens not to be hurt in a revaluation of that country’s currency. So in history, what happened was is the elite of this world got the currency that was going to be taken off the market in large quantities.

So when the recon reconstruction period was over and they went to put legs back under the country and set them up for their own processing, they had to give them a new currency. And in that process of revaluing and setting up the new currency, all of the earth old currency that was held had to be exchanged. Now let’s go back to Clinton. The reason why Clinton was able to get the United States out of debt was because of the amount of currency that he held for the war. Because it’s paid off in that exchange process. The United States got enough money to solve the debt, balance the budget.

All right, so when you talk about 90 days in that process, that 90 days was in, not in the process of the elites. That 90 days was in the process of the citizens of that country the ability to get to a place to take their old currency, turn it in and receive new currents. That was what was going on then. All right, now let’s look at it today. Something happened, okay? And that not, I don’t want to get into the depths of that something, but the world was opened up to the ability to participate with the elites in the currencies of the countries that were going to get new currency.

And in that process, the world who purchased that currency will, has, has, should have, should, let’s put it this way, should have gotten involved with certain groups to allow them to participate in levels of exchange at the sovereign elite level like the elites did. Okay? Except we get X. If we had access to buy it, we should have access to those groups that are able to exchange that. So the 90 day process like it was back then is the same today. That 90 day process is for the in country people to be able to go to a location near them to exchange their old currency to that country’s new currency when that new currency comes available.

Now I should bring up a whole lot of other questions in this regard, so let’s try to answer some of those before please, People who think, and I’m let’s go to economics with this as well. People who think that they have bought currency of certain countries that are not tradable currency today that, that they feel are going to have a right to exchange that currency most likely is not going to be able to do that. Here’s why. The value of the currencies that have been set are based upon a an amount of currency that have been identified, locked in place for the valuation of each country’s currency.

You cannot from an economical standpoint have floating around the world millions and millions of dollars of any currency that is not included in the baseline value of that currency to set the rate. You can’t do that. You have no stable rate then. And therefore if you have no stable rate, you can’t negotiate a treaty. You can’t do one to one to. For 290 countries. Okay? So people that feel like that they have what these tears they feel like tears, Tears in blogs and whatever that they get. A retail exchange, that currency is not identified in the base currency because it’s not been provided to a group that is given the currency into the system to allow it to be added to the currency’s balance worldwide of what currency exists to determine rates.

Now that doesn’t mean, that doesn’t mean that there’s not going to be exchange. What I’m, what I’m just saying is this from an economic standpoint. There is no way you can provide for a retail open world exchange for currency in whatever amounts out there that has not been identified. Okay? Because the economics of it doesn’t work. You don’t have any stable values. It doesn’t mean that the treasuries of each country may provide a retail type of exchange to those that hold certain countries currency to put into the currency bank of let’s say the United States and deal with that other country.

Okay? That’s what I’m trying, what I’m trying to say is this. There’s been no retail, there’s been no announcement to the people who are in the inside of any retail exchange. And there’s the reason for that is economics. Not that I’m saying it, it’s just straight economics. And that’s what I presented is on an economic basis it doesn’t work. Therefore no stable value, no stable system. But that doesn’t mean at the end of the day that there’s absolutely no exchange. The only difference is whether or not an exchange is going to exist. And number two, what the value of that exchange will be made to people who did not get involved with the groups that were actually working in with the sovereigns to bring as much currency in as we could so that they could stabilize their world of economy based upon assets that they know of.

So let me try to thank you, let me try to make that make sense to my audience so that they take a collective sigh of relief. There’s the public side and the non public side. And if you didn’t get on the non public side, don’t worry about it because it has nothing to do with where you’re going. And don’t be caught up in tears and all that and get yourself in the date rate game. Just if God can trust you again with your intentions from a face standpoint that will take care of the public side of it.

You don’t need to go chasing the dog with the tail, basically. Well, it’s too late to chase the dog with itself anyway. Right, right, right. So you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But, but what I want to, what I want to do is I’m, I’m a truth teller. Okay? So I can’t leave this without telling all the truth. No, please. All right, so what you’re saying can be observed that way, but what is being put out on the blogs over the Internet, you need to have a lot of discernment about what you believe. That’s, that’s kind of what I was saying.

So. And that’s what we do here is discernmental authority. We’re not gurus, we’re not financial advisors. We’re not on those blogs and caught up in the minutia. We want to get to the bullseye. And that’s what you’re helping to do. So as we put a pin on it for today, Jim, to respect your time, what we do is we always, with our new first guest, you’ll see if we get to work together on a continuing basis. Towards the end here, we’ll leave your link in the description for GodIsGovernment.com so people can find your work. But I want you to talk about where people can find your work.

And last, encouraging words for the audience in terms of can they have a reasonable positive expectation or, or hope. We’ll say that the holy day season as we know it in the current calendar is going to look promising for them. Okay, well, let’s take the latter first. Everybody can get my work on goddessgovernment.com I do have three bio studies that we teach every week and I have a substack and I’m on all of the platforms that you get your podcast. And I’m doing, I’m doing daily devotions every day. I do a history type, history type biblical view on, on a Friday, Friday podcast.

It’s called Bridge of Truth. And, and then I have other podcast that’s going on. So that’s. But the heart of all of that is goddessgovernment.com now, why should people have hope? Well, because that is what Christ told them to have. And this is biblical. This is not man made. This is biblical. So if you have faith in what scripture tells you do, and if you understand the conditions of what God has already given us, okay, he’s giving you all the blessings of the world in all the heavenly places in Ephesians 1:3. So you have them. It’s not that you’re lacking anything.

The lack comes from an attitudinal base of whether or not you can manifest those blessings into this physical realm. And how that is done is through hope and faith in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. So in this season that the prophecies are lining up, Clem Kick is the probably the only prophet that I would say is a true prophet because he prophesied before the events ever happen and they’re coming true. Yes. So if you understand the prophets and you now take the disclosures that are being given, soft disclosures first, then hard disclosures. If you put all of that together, what is being revealed is the truth and that comes from Scripture.

Because the only book of truth that exit is out there is the Bible. And you can go chapter and verse just like we have done in this session where the Bible is telling us what is going to happen. So to give your audience hope, go look inward to the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It’s in your heart and believe in him. And when you do that, then the truth will reveal itself. Amen. Hallelujah. And I, I just add what you said, Jim, as we close up today. I have gotten in my spirit discernmentally since you used the proper word, discernment.

And I totally agree with that that these last three months to, to use an old phraseology, it’s going to be Mr. Toad’s wild ride. We’re going to see amazing things financially, geopolitically fall in the folly. Kim Clement said and as you know, Second Corinthians says test the prophets, see if their words come to pass and his have and are continuing as you read to do so. 100 with you there and we’ll leave your links in the description. Folks, if you are looking for different currencies, dinar, dongs and Zimbabweans, Bolivar and all the other 209 countries and provinces, we have a very good company for that.

We will leave that link for you in the Description. Jim Pugh, thank you for joining us, sir. We appreciate your time, your expertise and your priceless knowledge. Thank you for being here and illuminating the path of truth for people. In a continuation, we look forward to having you again in the future. And thanks again. Thank you. Enjoy it.
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