THE BIG FAT RED LINE: Removing Free Will by Eliminating Options Knowledge w/ Glenn Eric Meder

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Sa Sam so we are doing the social credit system too. They’re doing, you know, Facebook, Snapchat, all of these things are doing these, these things that are controlling people and kids and all that stuff. But they have, they just want control. In some ways I do feel like we’re going down a, a tech tree that is very dangerous. Like for example, if you talk about utility of it. Well, if I’m going to outsource AI to write what I write, I’ve seen an application where it takes all of your messages through all of your different platforms, it consolidates it and then it understands how you write and then it responds to people for you.

So it’s like if I’m having AI text people for me, at what point am I just giving away like my life? I’m always looking for products that really help us as we age and make us feel better. So many of us are having, suffering from energy, brain fog. You know, we’re getting older so we have issues, you know, that just come with age. And we’re taking all these supplements and we’re, you know, I’m always talking about peptides and things that make you feel better, give you more energy. And one of the overlooked areas is making sure that you have the blood flow to get the oxygen and nutrients to all the cells in your body and to your brain.

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And we also talk about what’s happening with kids. We’re watching kids just shutting down. He gives you his personal experience how TikTok is really being used and it’s crazy and what’s happening in China compared to here and I just, some of the stuff I didn’t know, I didn’t, I didn’t know to the degree how they’re using TikTok in China to make sure they’re, they do the AI stuff too but they’re just kind of putting them into this cog box. You gotta listen to this whole show about, you know, how being a cog in a machine and how they’re perfectly doing that for us.

They’re doing it differently about how they’re just demoralizing our kids and how we’re seeing it everywhere. I mean, our kids are in trouble and it’s because of this stuff. And they’re going to talk about it, but we’re also going to talk about privacy and how to get the hell out of the surveillance state. But different than I usually do. He wanted to bring up feminism. And it’s something that I’ve stayed away from like forever. I don’t want to talk about feminism. I, I just don’t. I’m being attacked at every front. I used to be really activism.

I mean, not active in that way, but I used to be. I never really was an activist in any. Back when I was young, but I was a feminist. I mean, who wasn’t? Who in a healthy way in their right mind doesn’t want to. If you’re a libertarian, you want freedom. You believe in our Constitution. Why wouldn’t I want freedom and liberty for myself? And for God’s sake, if you can’t see how that is applies to everybody and that it’s, it’s, it is the essence of feminism really the way I see it. But how they’ve twisted it on us and turned it around and turned it into another attack on women from all perspectives.

I, I gotta tell you, I feel like it’s where we took a 30 year, we went 30 years backwards from when I, you know, in the 90s, it’s been probably farther. In the 90s were better than it is today. It’s just ludicrous what we’re experiencing. So I hope you appreciate this conversation. I also want to tell you that we’re doing a privacy seminar webinar. I’ve having great success with these webinar. If you have not been joining them, you need to join some of these webinars that I’m doing. I’m going to be doing one with Glenn and Eric Meter on privacy and leaving the surveillance state.

So I will have the link below where you can join this webinar live. And there’ll also be a replay and I’ll make sure I share that on my sub stack. So be sure to join because these webinars have been really informative. We’re doing Q A session and people have been communicating to me that they really, really are appreciat because it’s kind of the edge of Change. I’ve always been about the edge of change and this is right on the edge of change. You need to learn about these things and be aware so that you can navigate for yourself.

So again, It’ll be on August 14th at 7pm Central Time. And I’ll have the link below. Okay, let’s get into this. Really fantastic. And I really like. Glenn has raised an amazing son in Eric. He calls. Eric calls his dad Glenn because they work together professionally. But it’s. He’s his dad and he’s just did a wonderful job raising his son. I just think his son is, is just. Eric is just great and I think you will see why. And he could be a really good. He’s really good at sharing with people what young people are dealing with growing up in a social media environment and it is pretty jaw dropping and eye opening.

I did a show with them earlier. It’s one of the top shows I’ve had in the last couple years. And I’ll put a link below as well. You can hear the whole show where he talks about his on social media. I think it’s something everyone should listen to. But anyways, let’s get into this really fantastic conversation with Eric and Glenn Meter. Hi Eric and Glenn. Welcome back to the program. Thank you. Thank you very much for having us. It’s an honor. Yeah. Well, you guys are amazing. You’re doing amazing, great work. You had me and Andy Schekman on just recently talking about the financial scams and we are literally.

You guys have had dozens of people come in. We are literally saving people their life savings, their mental health and their ability to retire. Right. I mean it’s incredible. And so I thank you so much for reaching out to us and doing that. But you’re doing so much more than that. And I’ve had Eric on the past. It was probably one of the best shows I’ve ever done as far as viewership talking about the attack on kids and their minds and controlling how we think. My red line in the sand is anything that affects our free will.

And that’s what makes us human, our freedom. I’m a libertarian leaning, I’m not hardcore anarchist libertarian. I’m just into freedom and how do people flourish and empowerment for everyone. And that’s what you guys are about. Absolutely. I mean I think I believe the same thing. I believe in liberty. And we need to. That’s what makes America great. That’s what makes humanity great, is when we can all be free. And what they’re doing now is what we Primarily focus on is how they are trying to manipulate and not trying. They are manipulating us on the technological level with, let’s say, AI and.

And all the technological stuff. But it goes beyond that too. And we can talk. There’s lots brought up. Something about feminism. I don’t talk about feminism because I have all these trolls into my things talking about, you know, women don’t even want to vote. And I was like, wait a minute, I’m a libertarian type. I would want to vote. I want freedom. I want people to leave me the hell alone. That’s why I’m into free will. But there is an attack on women. There’s an attack on men. Can you talk about that? Because you were articulating it so well.

Well, I just think that there is, you know, if we look at. Is there any proof for propaganda and the power of propaganda? And I think one of the things we can look at is let’s look at feminism. And feminism has always been. I mean, I’m talking the movement of feminism. And that has always been about promoting women’s rights, promoting women to have equal rights with men, all that stuff. But it took a 180 turn and it. And it’s now become women are defending men. Women are defending men’s rights to infringe upon women. I mean, when he did the whole trans thing.

Yeah. I mean, from all directions now and get back on your plantation. Exactly, exactly. But if. I mean, just think about the switch. I mean, It’s a total 180 switch where you have, okay, women’s rights. Okay? Now men. Men are women. Men can be women, Men can come into women’s locker rooms. Men can infringe on Title 9. All of these things that all this progress was made, and now it’s. If you are against. If a woman is against, you know, trans people getting into sports or whatever, or going into women’s locker rooms or whatever, then you’re the bad guy and you’re not the feminist.

And so. So I think we’ve got to look at these things where there’s this 180 switch. And to me, that means that when there’s this very quick 180 switch, that is brainwashing. That is brainwashing. Absolutely. That is a very clear indication of brainwashing. Yes, but we’re seeing. I’m seeing it from all differentness since we’re talking about this topic. I’m seeing the men. Because then you get. Nor you get normal people like you going, wait a minute, this is not right. And we’re all like, wait a minute. This isn’t right. We understood we were all. For any human being having free will, liberty, the right to.

To fully engage and meet all their needs, and all these things, you know, get to the best they can be. That doesn’t. That’s not right here. And then we have propaganda on all sides going after, like, getting to. To fight against it. The fight against that is putting women back into their box. You guys got to be back, like, in the 50s or something. It’s like. It’s. It’s like everything is inverting again. Yep. You know what I’m saying? Yeah. And I think that. Oh, totally. It’s a pendulum swing that they’ve done, and it plays a lot into identity.

I think another really powerful way that people can tell if they’ve been brainwashed is if they have a minefield inside of their brain. Because if I look at the younger generation, you look at let’s. Glenn’s topic, he’s talking about transgenderism. Just even questioning is this real? Is a minefield. That’s like stepping on a landmine in someone’s brain. So if you have these hot button points in your head where you’re not even willing to question something, that means you’ve most likely been brainwashed about that topic. That’s right, because I sent to somebody who was young, who is really into the transgender movement, and I think it’s something we should be looking at, too.

Why are so many people. Is there something scientifically going on? I had someone tell me that the microplastics that are hitting people’s bodies are causing them to physically change. And so they’re. The. The men, younger men and women are sexually changing because of all these microplastics. And there’s something more scientifically scientific going on. So that is like, okay, we need to look at some of that. So what the heck is going on? Because it does seem like there’s something weird going on. That doesn’t mean you go out and get a sex change as a kid and.

And change your body and stuff. I mean, I think we need to. But we. We can’t be triggered either. We gotta look at this. But at the same point, I had this young person. I sent them. There’s a Reddit group of all these d. Transitioners with a ton of studies, because all these people are going. Kids that they transition with. 1. They used to spend years making sure a person would want to transition. They go to one counseling session or transitioning. So I sent them a list of all these studies. He sent it back within 10 seconds saying, I don’t want, I don’t want.

I could read it to you. I don’t have it in front of me anymore. But essentially that it was all bunk because they’re all biased and they’re all slanted and brainwashed and wouldn’t look at it. I’m like, wait a minute. This is like an array of a lot of different studies from all different groups. He had one source that he believed and that was the only source he was going to listen to. Yeah, and it kind of goes back to the point of scams, too, because people believe what they want to believe. G. Edward Griffin. We were at the Red Pill Expo recently and he had a great quote and he said, I’ve never met a con man that I didn’t trust.

It’s pretty funny because, you know, it’s great. Yeah, I, I laughed a lot when he said that. But you look at the kids, they are believing what they want to believe because it’s been so reinforced. And like you said, he’s just going to reject it on face level because that, that’s not a reality that he wants to accept. Yeah, it just. He knows too many people. He knows better. I’m like, well, what about all these 50,000 people who are struggling now and are trying to get, you know, I mean, so this is a good example, but we’re seeing this brainwashing.

I’m in the Twin Cities area, Minneapolis, which is like a safe haven for this type of stuff. And I, I’ve gotten to be friends with a lot of people. I’m very. I, I want to get to know the, you know, people who are seriously going through a lot of this. Most of them are just incredibly kind, nice people who are struggling. Right. But there are a lot of people who are going through this. And so what is. I do think there’s some science, something else is happening, but you don’t get like whole groups of people, you know, like whole teenage groups of girls coming in, wanting to get, you know, transitions if there isn’t some brainwashing involved.

Absolutely. I mean, and we can look at, I think this is happening on all kinds of different levels. You know, we’ve talked about tick tock before and Eric’s experience with tick tock. But, you know, we can, we could. Let’s just talk about COVID for a second because different topic, same thing. Yeah, it’s the same thing. So it’s this mass. What is it? Mass formation psychosis. And I totally agree, I totally believe that’s what’s happening there. But I, I think about what. One of the things that I think about with COVID is we are friends with a lady, my wife is very good friends with this lady who’s a liberal.

And before COVID she was totally against pharmaceuticals. She was like, you know, natural this, natural that, all of that stuff. And then once she got, once this Covid stuff happened, rejected all, all of that stuff. If you don’t get a vax, you’re crazy. And, and then I would send her, I would send her links also to scientific studies. There were tons of scientific studies that says masks don’t work. There’s no scientific evidence for the six foot rule. There’s, you know, the, the vaccine hasn’t been tested properly. It’s a, emergency use vaccine. You’re in the same boat as so many other.

Yes, keep going. And, and it’s exactly what you said. She rejected it. And actually this was more than one person. It’s like she says, okay, I only accept information from these sources. I don’t accept information. And I said, these are scientifically published studies. These are peer reviewed studies. And she just refused to believe that. And so I think that’s part of the, the brainwashing is if they believe, if they watch cnn, if they watch cbs, all of this stuff, they will be brainwashed. There is no way that you can’t be brainwashed if you’re watching those, those platforms.

I think we have to just get them to question, can you question this stuff? You know, think about what you used to think like, like a few months before this happened. I don’t, I don’t know exactly how to do to get people to question that. But. Well, let me give you another area. I just had Kieran Kelly on who has the largest. He’s amazing. I’m gonna have him back again. He owns the largest ocean environmental company in the world and he’s cleaning up the oceans and he works with all these big corporations and he just finally has enough.

He’s been speaking out and he’s like. And we talked about how they have co opted the word sustainability. You know, like Renette Zenham is a good friend of mine too, and she was really into environmental action. She goes, sarah, now it’s like inverted. They did the same thing. They inverted it. They’ve co opted the movement. Who doesn’t want sustainability? I mean, come on. We don’t want our, we do not. We don’t want our oceans polluted. We don’t want our air polluted. We don’t want our bodies polluted. We want to work, we want to live in a sustainable environment.

But they’ve co opted the word and so now they’re using it for CO2Bs. They’re using it to fund all these NGOs that do nothing. They’re using it for all this like stuff. And then so all the legit, real, like serious people have been sidelined. Yeah, not all. I mean he’s one of them that hasn’t been and he’s just tired of it and he’s speaking out. I think one of the things, you know, one of the things that people say is, well, so such and such conspiracy theory couldn’t be true because the government couldn’t keep that secret.

I think one of the, I think one of the superpowers of government and that, I think the only thing that they’re good at is keeping secrets. But they can’t. Okay, I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt you. But they can’t keep the secret. This is the blackmail or the brainwashing part is you will show them how they, the whistleblower. You know, I can show parade of whistleblowers coming out from the government and like, well, they didn’t keep it secret and they still glaze over. What is that? Yeah, and it’s going to go further. I mean now they’re doing this digital ID they’re going to, they’re going to start really cracking down on freedom of speech online.

We see this all over the place and people are still not going to question it. They’re going to just go along with what they hear. I see this in Europe, by the way, much more so than I see it in the U.S. in the U.S. you’ve got people that really do are skeptical and very skeptical of the government in Europe. I don’t see much of that skepticism at all actually. Well, the Irish guy I just had, he said that Ireland, the protests are growing and people are angry and he’s like, it’s getting dangerous over there. And he says that people are being put into prison for social media posts.

The, the show, he became a U. S. Citizen so he can speak out and he’s just thankful his son was murdered, which is just a horrible story. He talks about that. But the show we did, he’s like, I’d be put in prison for what I’m saying now on this show. Is he in Ireland now or is he here now? Well, he’s a US Citizen. He’s a dual citizen. He’s here, but he’s also another, I think he was Indonesia when we talked, but he’s, he has this company is worldwide because I mean he really has a multi billion dollar ocean cleanup company.

And people are starting to speak out and just say if we want to save our world and literally save freedom, we have to start speaking up. Yeah, yeah. And I think that kind of goes back to what you’re talking about with keeping secrets in the government, Glenn. I think a lot of people don’t know what’s going on. I think they’re also brainwashed too. You mean people who work in the government? Yeah, I think like if you look at, there’s definitely people who are in the government, not necessarily at high level. I think a lot of it is a trickle down where the top knows everything and then it goes down layer by layer.

And you know, people maybe either convince themselves just like everyone else does or maybe they’re blackmailed. But I think there’s a lot of people that don’t know and they do have a good intention. Yeah, most people don’t know. Yeah, but, but they don’t know because they’re still kept into this digital prison system of, you know, echo chamber. I mean it’s like I’m not allowed on YouTube, for example, and I’m suppressed all over the place. And anybody who thinks openly, anybody who really can challenge the narrative about freedom and liberty and just, you know, they used to believe in this.

The left used to believe in empowering a voice like me. They no longer do. And so anybody who can reach people is suppressed. Yeah, yeah. And if we look at the story that Eric talked about previously on, on your show with, with his experience with Tick Tock and how the social media, the social media AI Actually, I’ll just tell a little bit what I think what my theory is is I. Wait a minute. Before we get into that, I have to ask you as a father, and I never asked you this before as a father, when you realize what they were doing to your son, what did that.

And we got to talk a little bit about what they did. How did that make you feel? Well, freaked out, quite honestly. I mean a lot of things I have had my eyes open like every, every few days in this business, what I’m doing. And I’ve had it, I’ve had it open, my eyes opened and it was freaky. And it also, it also though explained a lot of things as far as why our kids nowadays. Because it wasn’t just my son, it’s. It’s also all of his friends, every one of them are lost. And it’s like, how.

How can this be? I mean, when I look back on my life when I was his age, I don’t remember anyone really being lost. Not like that. Yeah. Not like that. No. I mean, there were. Yeah, there were a couple people that were lost, but I mean, most people, you know, you took this path or this path, or maybe you didn’t know which path you were going to go on, but you didn’t really worry about it because you knew things would work out. That’s kind of where I was and. But his. His group of friends is just like, totally lost.

Well, let me ask you, Eric, because I think you sound a lot like my kids, actually. My daughter is not. She’s doing really well. She’s really focused. But she. She has a group of her friends that are like your friends. I mean, a lot of them are really lost, but she struggles to find people who are not lost, almost. I mean, it’s. It’s hard for her, definitely. I actually. So I. I work online with Glenn, and I decided to move out of my. The hometown that I grew up in in Lincoln, Nebraska. And I did that just because I felt like I needed a new start to be able to find new people.

And that’s one of the reasons why I came to Europe, actually. And so I came here and it’s definitely more in person. I don’t think it hit the. I’m in Hungary, and in Hungary, it hasn’t hit the same, at least yet over here. So there’s definitely people you can find. But yeah, to answer the original question, it is definitely hard to find people that are really dialed in. But what I will say too, is the youth is not. They’re confused, but they have hope. I mean, I think this is the first generation that’s looking at new technology like the neuralink or AI, and it might be the first time where people are saying, okay, what is going on here? I’m not, I’m not going to put a chip in my head.

I don’t want to use AI. I want to support, you know, creators or whatever. And so I think they know something’s up and they’re going to push back against it, but they’re just pretty confused. They’re starting to realize that their free will is under attack, that their very essence of being a human being might be lost if they venture down this road. Can you talk about. So people understand what happened to you? You? We don’t. I mean, they can go and watch the other show, which is really Detailed, but just for people who haven’t seen it, give us kind of like a brief synopsis so that they understand and why.

I asked Glenn how he felt as a dad, because it’s. And this is happening to. This is happening to your grandkids or your kids, too. So give us your. Tell us, because it’s incredible. Of course. Yeah. So I’m. I’m 26 now, but this is about six years ago. I was in a hard time in my life. I was very lost. I was angry, depressed, confused, whatever. And I decided I wanted to pursue a career in cooking. So I went to culinary school, and I also had a job as a line cook. And I remember there’s one specific day where I was at work and I was just feeling really depressed, and I just listened to the song Rotten Apple by Alison Chains all day, basically the whole shift.

Then I came home. And you kept repeating the song over and over. Yeah. Yep. It was on repeat. And then I come home, and keep in mind, Glenn had been telling me for a long time all these different things. He’d planted a lot of thought seeds. And so I get home, I go on tick tock, tick tock, and I start scrolling, and there was a post there that said, when you’re a line cook and you listen to Alice, or when you’re a line cook and you listen to rotten apple 247 and you want to kill yourself.

And it was just like a meme format with a little cartoon chef. And when I saw that, I was like, wow, this is beyond coincidence levels. And so I direct. I immediately uninstalled TikTok. And if you just think about it logically, okay, my phone tracks where I go. They see I go to a culinary school and that I work as a line cook. They see the photos I take, they see the messages that I send to people. Obviously, I’m listening to Spotify to listen to Rotten Apple. It’s all connected. It’s so easy for anything remotely intelligent to piece together something and create it.

And when I first originally started talking about this, it was a story I never liked talking about because it just seems so unbelievable. But as time has gone on, each time I tell the story, it’s much more believable because people actually see what AI can do now. I mean, back then, AI wasn’t even really a thing, so they thought you were crazy. Like, you are a nut bag. And now they’re realizing, wait, maybe he’s. Wow. Yeah. So here’s the point. Here’s the main point about this is he was specifically under attack. And not just him personally, but teens are specifically under attack.

And I believe what happens, I’ll just give you the high level here is I think that, you know, TikTok is a Chinese company. I think President Z, president of China went to the president of TikTok and said, okay, now use your, use the TikTok AI to destabilize kids in America, radicalize them, make them depressed, make them go down to this rabbit hole of despair, all of that stuff. And the AI can do that because the AI watches you, learns about you, learns about your hot buttons, all of this stuff. Then it can take you down your own unique rabbit hole to take you to that place that they want to go.

And this is why, I think this is why Americans are in teens especially are so are the way they are now. They isn’t that sad though, Glenn, because they could take AI and do the exact opposite but anyways, keep going. And they are in China. So, so if you look at the Chinese version of tick tock, they are doing it the opposite. They are taking teen, they’re taking teens and kids and they’re teaching them traditional, you know, Chinese traditions and how to succeed at work and how to become a better man, a better. And how to be strong and independent and think and, and be mentally healthy there.

And then if they see something that makes them a little, you know, that it’s not mentally healthy, they’ll kind of guide them like parents do. And you don’t want to depend on an AI, you want depend on parents. But it can, it can be a tool in that way. And they’re, they are going to kick our butt by having a healthy, strong, mentally healthy society. And we have a bunch of sick, mentally sick people here. Just a short break from the program to share with you an amazing peptide to help you lose weight. It’s stronger than Ozempic and why it’s because it not only reduces your appetite, but it also burns fat.

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So are they shutting down these kids ability to be anything but robots? I mean they’re, that they’re taking it to a whole nother level. Well that’s what the Chinese social credit system is and that’s what is, that is coming to us too. But again the Chinese are creating a system that creates like a really. They don’t care about the individual in China. They care about the, the machinery of the society. They want to create this machine that is very. They’re not, they don’t care about mental health either. They care about these people. That’s why AI is so powerful.

They care about making sure that they are in the cog of the machine with the mental attitude they need for that cognitive. Yeah, yeah. Now that’s another way of saying it. Instead of this mental health mentally I’m thinking about it from idealistic standpoint. I’m. Thank you for correcting me. Yeah. The end. Now the west is different though. So we are doing the social credit system too. They’re doing you know, Facebook, Snapchat, all of these things are doing these, these things that are controlling people and kids and all that stuff. But they have, they just want control.

It’s all about control. Yeah, but I mean it’s more than control. I mean look what they did to Eric. I think they’re trying to just demoralize people? Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, that’s. That’s definitely part of it. The, the people in charge in the West, I think are truly bad people. They don’t give a damn about anything. These are absolute psychopaths. And so I think, you know, going full circle back to what we were talking about before with the brainwashing and all of that stuff, I think one of the key things that we have to get across is you have to realize that they are brainwashing you and that you are actually under attack.

And you have to be skeptical. You have to be careful. You have to take steps to unwind yourself from that. And it’s difficult because one of the things that we talk about also is now they’re putting AI on your computer. So if you have an Apple or a Windows computer, it’s not just this TikTok AI that’s watching you, learning about you. You’ve got AI on your computer and Windows, Apple, all of that stuff that AI on your computer is. Has no other purpose other than to learn about you and watch you and learn what makes you tick.

What are your hot buttons, where do you get your news headlines that you read? Whatever. Then they have. The AI is really good at that. And then the AI will then be able to be able to. To manipulate you on an individual level and brainwash you on an individual level. And see, the thing is, because we got psychopaths wanting to do that, if we had systems put in place to not, you know, laws and regulation. I don’t like regulations, laws, but we have to do this that keeps. Make sure our free will. Just like we had a constitution to make sure that we had liberty and freedom.

That constitution needs to go all the way deep into all these algorithms and say, this is violating our free. Our freedom. Our liberties are. You can’t do this. And so if we want an AI agent to help us do. Because I don’t mind having an AI agent that. That is kept on guardrails from a software standpoint so that it doesn’t manipulate me and it. But it helps me do my job better. Do you know what I’m saying? I’m a tech, I’m a scientist. I’m into technology. So I want. I can see from a science standpoint, from a computer science standpoint, how it could be really a wonderful tool.

What I don’t want is anybody screwing around with my. My free will and manipulating the way I think. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they’re just doing this deceptively. I mean, I think that’s the key is who’s in charge of the AI. If you can have your own AI. And eventually I’ve talked to Eric about this a lot. What I would like to see is like your own little R2D2 that protects you. I mean it’s designed to protect you from all of this manipulation, all of this other stuff that’s happening. I mean, I think we’re a ways away from that, but I think.

But you got the point. It’s the same thing. Yeah. I mean this could be tools. We need tools to keep us free, tools to protect us. We have enough engineers out there making tools to attack and do all that. We need to start making some tools to keep us free and independent. Yeah. I’m Personally Glenn likes AI more than me. I’m not 100% sold on it. In some ways I do feel like we’re going down a tech tree that is very dangerous. Like for example, if you talk about utility of it. Well, if I’m going to outsource AI to write what I write, I’ve seen an application where it takes all of your messages through all of your different platforms, it consolidates it and then it understands how you write and then it responds to people for you.

So it’s like if I’m having AI text people for me, at what point am I just giving away like my life? And another thing I think about is we have become a very hyper specialized society. Like I think Glenn’s grandfather built his own house with his hands. I, I know I could not do that. You know, so there’s people in my generation, yeah, they can fill out a really good Excel spreadsheet, but what’s going to happen if the power goes out? You know, So I think we are definitely trading some of our personal autonomy for this hyper smart AI.

Well, but do you think that possibly. I mean I used to bugged me on LinkedIn when everybody was automatically responding to everybody and then now everybody’s automatically responding and nobody’s even on there anymore. And so it’s stupid. You get to that point where you’re not even using it and it’s just the bots. And so in the real world it’s, it’s essentially in what knocks each other out. It’s a negative effect on everything. Right. Because if you’re only having bots to respond to bots and people aren’t even involved anymore, it becomes a negative. I mean it’s just nothing.

Right. It’s. It invalidates itself. Right. I, I think it. Sorry, do you want to go. No, go ahead, go ahead. Well, what I was going to say is I think it depends in the sense that people are addicted to their electronics. And the difference is it’s not just a response from LinkedIn, it’s. It’s an intelligent thing. So even if you look at it from a scam level, I could have conversations on a very deep level, build relationships with something that’s not real, or if you look at your Twitter feed, whatever, every single thing on there could be fake.

I mean, I, I don’t know if you’ve heard of the dead Internet theory, but you could be placed into basically a entire false reality because of what you see on your computer. I don’t know if I’m going too deep or no, but that’s true. But that gets to my point where it’s like everybody’s responding to everybody and nobody’s responding to anybody, essentially, because in a real world, nobody even knew what was going on on LinkedIn, but everybody’s responding to each other and nobody even knows it. But if you’re the only one who’s real, then that becomes really a minefield and so it becomes our own personal responsibility.

Right? Yeah, yeah, that’s what I was getting at. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, we, we talk a lot about the political side of things, too, actually. That’s not, it’s not been our really main focus for a long time. But I really do want to make change on the political level, and it can only happen on the local level. And so we’re doing a lot more on local level political change now. And we’re meeting people, we’re going to meetings and meeting face to face with people like from Children’s Health Defense Group and Stanford Freedom and, you know, that type of thing.

And G. Edward Griffin is doing things where he’s trying to organize local communities. You know, I think, I think people have, will have to go back to local and meeting people face to face and that type of thing. I think, I think we’re going to go. I think that’s one of the things that I feel good about, if we can do that and if we can kind of go into our little micro groups and. So what are you doing? Yeah, so give us some examples of some of the things that you can do, because people are know, they know that things are wrong.

Right. But they don’t know what to do and they’re so busy. What is a meet? Some meaningful things that, that people can get involved with. Because I think most people have checked out. Okay, so I’ve got a five, a five step plan of action that I tell people about. So first thing is I think people have to be aware. They have to become really aware of what’s going on. I think that’s very true on the technological side and how this manipulation happens, all of this stuff. But the attacks are also, all of these attacks are happening on the legal side too.

And it’s not just like, you know, you can hear about all this stuff happening in London and Europe and all that stuff. It’s happening in your local town too. So I think being aware is the number one thing. Second part that we talk about is get your own house in order. And we talk about that primarily from the technology side, privacy side, that type of thing. And then we talk about, you know, share, spread the word, that type of thing. And then all then the fourth point is do what you can with the skills that you have.

And that is really, I think what we need, and this is what G. Edward Griffin was really talking about too, is the US Is created as a decentralized power structure. So the Constitution creates, it really limits the power of the federal government. I mean the federal government really has very little authority at all. It all comes down to the states and to the local communities. And so one of the reasons that we are in the situation we’re in right now is because we have let the federal government take all these powers to. That it doesn’t have.

But the, the Constitution is still the law of the land and any law brainwashed to believe absolutely the federal government is more powerful than it is. And then all of our media, if you turn on the media, all they talk about all day long is the federal government. And that’s part of the whole brainwashing thing. So, so that’s what I think is what we need to do is on the, we need to have, let’s say somebody needs to run for governor that says, okay, the federal government is out. You’re not, so we’re in Nebraska. Here you’re, the federal government is out on everything.

You don’t have the, you don’t have the authority to have the Department of Education, the cdc, the fda, all of these, all of these named organizations. There is no authority that they have to create those things. So you’re out unless you can prove that you have the constitutional authority to, to be in this, in the state for such and such reason. And just, I think there’s got to be that level of, you’re out. And as soon as we do that, we can gather, we can gain more freedom and more liberty than we have had in 100 years.

So we’re marching towards this future where it looks like they’re going to enslave humanity. And we could flip that to the point where we have more liberty and than we have then. Then our fathers have had, our grandfathers have had all of that stuff because we can take it back to the local level. That’s the law. I’m just talking about following the law. But don’t you think that there’s almost like two, two things happening in this country? There’s the people who are doing what you two are doing and states that are really starting to get it.

And then there’s the, like a state like mine, or at least it’s more like the cities in states like the blue states in cities like where I’m living who are going the opposite direction, giving all their power away. Yeah, that’s, that’s what everybody does. I mean everybody does that and they just, they. I don’t think that most state senators or governors know the, know that they have the power and the responsibility to protect our liberty by standing up to the federal government. I don’t think they even think that way. They just, you know, this is the way it has been done, this way everyone else is doing it.

So that’s the way I’m going to do it. And I think it’s, it’s up to we, the people to stand up. And, and this was G. Edward Griffin’s main message at the last Red Pill Expo is he said, I have been educating people for 60 years. And he said, I woke up one morning and I said we’ve lost. We’ve lost because yes, I’ve educated all these people all that. But then, but we’re not in positions of power because the good people don’t want to be in power. It’s the bad people that want to be in power.

We don’t want to do it. But see, that’s the point because I talk about how I want liberty and freedom for everybody, but that means that I don’t want to take power over you. Exactly. I want power for myself, but I want to control you. Exactly. And that’s, that’s, that’s why we are not in positions of power. And I also think the people who should be in power are the people that don’t want to be in power. The people that shouldn’t be in power are the people that want to be there because. Because they, they’re the psychopaths.

Yeah. And I think a Lot of them, for sure. Yeah, exactly. I think the Libertarian Party has lost its way in that sense, actually. Because if you look at our founding fathers, they were very, very fierce people. They weren’t just, you know, live and let live. It was. If you do this, I mean, you know what happened, we’re going to go to war over it. They were very violent in protecting themselves. And I’m not saying violence is the answer. I don’t believe that. But you have to protect your freedom like your life depends on it. And I think that’s something that.

For. Just to add to that, they went to. To war for a lot less than what we’re doing. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. But, Eric, I want to tell you how impressed I am with the work that you have done. And you were. I’ve always told your dad that, too, is. I’m just so impressed with you and where. Where you are mentally and how you see things. And maybe you needed through some of that to get to the point of where you are today. And I think you’re going to be a bright leader for people to see and overcome this.

This is very serious. And I want people to understand your story, because this is. I mean, we’re. We will. I, like, I. I’ve told Glenn I think we are going to really lose if this happens to our kids, our kid. I mean, you think our generation is under attack. If the kids don’t get themselves out of this, the country’s done in the next generation, or they won’t. Or they won’t have kids. I mean, if they feel it’s hopeless, they’re not going to have kids and bring them into this world. I think that’s. That’s a real problem, too.

Yeah. No, and I really appreciate that, Sarah. I’m very grateful for my father and everyone else. I mean, like I said the other day, your article about the gold scams, that’s what allowed me to see through it. So. So obviously, I’m not some, like, prophet or anything. I’ve been helped by everyone else, and I want to help other people. Like, I’ve been helped, too. And there were definitely times in my youth where I was so lost that anyone looking at me would instantly write me off and be like, lost cause done. And it kind of goes back to a quote that Glenn always likes from Leonardo da Vinci where it’s, there’s people who will see, or there’s people who see, there’s people who will see when they’re shown, and there’s people who don’t see, and I like it, but it’s also, it’s too black and white because I think there’s a lot of people who are extremely lost, and all it takes is something to shatter their comfortable reality for them to start breaking that shell and growing.

And so I definitely want to help the youth and everyone in general get past this because I think right now it’s kind of like a cancer of brainwashing that’s going over the world. World. Well, I don’t think the older folks quite understand what the kids are going through because I didn’t grow up on the Internet. I didn’t grow up with social media. You did. It’s a different reality for you, your generation, than it is for ours. And so we don’t understand it like you do. We can try, but we didn’t come to age in that. Yep.

You know. Yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s, It’s a. Definitely a very strange time period. I, I have maybe a little bit foot out of the door because I remember my childhood up until I was 10, where I was outdoors most of the time, but then as soon as I got into my teenage, Teenage years, total, total online. And that really affected me in many different ways. I mean, I, I have. I don’t think I’ve ever talked about this with anyone. I’ve talked to Glenn about this, but. But there were some people that I knew closely, and when I was like 12, they would just not stop showing me, like, awful gore videos.

Just. I’ve seen countless, countless people die. And when you’re 12 years old, you see that sort of thing. I mean, that messes you up more than seeing porn or anything. I mean, seeing people brutally get murdered and then just talking about the, the narratives and the group think that happens through social media. It really is a generation unlike any other, I think. Do you think that shutting off social media. My daughter just eventually. I’m so proud of her, but I didn’t realize until, like, you’re one of the people that helped me understand a little bit more what my daughter was talking about.

But she just finally shut off all social media when she was in high school. I think a senior in high school and then throughout college, she just really kind of dug in emotionally and, and became a lot healthier. But she just said, I’m done with social media. And I think that was one of the best things she’s ever done. Now she kind of gets into it, but more with LinkedIn and more very. She’s very careful about it now. And, And I think that was one of the best things she’s ever done. Yeah. Oh, yeah. LinkedIn is so bad too though.

I mean, they’re all, she has to do it for a professional. I mean, she’s not all the time. It’s just like you don’t have to have your professional freaking profile and stuff. Stuff because she’s in the business world, but in general, you know, you just stop doing it. And I think young people, that’s what we need. What do you think about kids, like in high school or even parents just saying no social media at all? Yeah, I mean, I would, Sorry, my dog’s going crazy. I would definitely recommend that. As far as the parent side, I think it needs to be an education push with it too.

Otherwise the kid will just be like, oh, my parents sucks, my friends don’t like me because I can’t do this. Everyone has it, blah, blah, blah. They need to understand why they can’t have it. And you know, if you have to get real with them on a lot of levels of how bad it is. What was that? Sorry. Well, they won’t understand. So is there, are there other. Because, you know, I grew up, I remember the kids that had super strict parents and then they shut down too. Right? And then you end up having a kid that’s isolated and shut down and that’s a psychosis too, that you develop.

So are there social media environments that are kid friendly and mentally healthy for these kids? I don’t know, honestly. I mean, social media is designed to collect information and basically manipulate you with what you’re shown. I, I mean, I would say the best way is to cut it all out. So as you mentioned before, I, I did the, the training for kids. I’m merging that into Privacy Academy, where. So what we do is we teach people how to exit the surveillance state. And I’m building out the platform right now where half of it is, okay, let’s educate the children with the parents.

And then the other section is, okay, let’s educate the parents on, you know, how they can make sure everything’s going correctly, everything’s set up safe and so on. But I think what it comes down to is when I first was inspired to teach the youth, my inspiration was to teach them how to think and not what to think. Because if you look at everything that’s going on, it’s just telling kids what to think, what to think, what to think. And I don’t want to just go and say, that’s wrong, that’s wrong, that’s wrong. You just have to arm them with knowledge.

And you have to. At a certain point, I think parents have to accept where it’s like the mama bird letting the baby bird jump out of the nest and understand it has to fly on its own. Once they understand, okay, I understand what my identity is and how the words that I use affected. I understand emotions, the importance of being skeptical, all these different things, then they can figure it out themselves. I mean, I don’t think it will be easy. I don’t think it’s necessarily easy, especially nowadays, but it, it is, you know, something they’ll have to figure out on their own.

And, and I’ll say that, you know, you noticed earlier when Eric was talking about his experience that he went through and he talked about the seeds that I planted in him, I think really that’s one of the most important things that we can do is just plant those seeds and, you know, be there with them. And quite honestly, if I, if I was raising a kid in today’s world, I would absolutely homeschool them. I would bring them through my world. I would, I would not trust anyone else with, with my son. You know, I think that’s a, you know, how can we.

I guess I’ve just totally changed my view on this of we just turn our kids over. Actually, most of their lives, they experience something they’re taught by people that, I don’t know, I don’t know their values, I don’t know anything about them, and they’re just passed along from person to person. And, you know, we trust that they’re going to be okay after all of that stuff. But I think if I was to do it again, like I said, I would not do that. Well, it’s a different world now, right? We, we have been educated. I mean, I, I don’t know if I do.

My kids turned out pretty good. And Eric, I think you have, too. But if I look back on, I’m like, I don’t know, you know, what would I do different? Because I, I, I don’t think I’d put. I for sure wouldn’t put them in the public schools. I think they turned out good in spite of the schools. I, I think we quite, we got lucky in a way. You know, maybe we did. That’s the way I look at it. Maybe we did. I think I got lucky in some of the things I landed into. Just stumbling into marrying my husband.

I always tell people that I don’t know what I was doing. You know, I just stumbled in and for now that I’m older And I know what I would. What’s good for me and for having a family and stuff. I’m like, wow, I kind of got lucky. I got somebody who actually is like this. But when I was young, I wasn’t smart enough to know that. So you do kind of stumble into all these things and, and so that’s why you need the guidance of your parents. And I would have done it differently. So you do more than, I mean, you’re doing so many good things.

You’re also teaching people how to protect themselves from a computer. You even have laptops now that are privacy laptops so that you won’t be spied on. You can use the Internet safely. Because, I mean, in today’s world I have to use the Internet, right? I have my tools. But you have. For people who want to use the Internet safely, you even have stuff for that now. Yeah, yeah. And I would say that, you know, we do, we do have computers, we have phones and that type of thing. And, and I think that’s the easy thing for people to go to.

I mean, I do encourage people to get, you know, one of these devices, but don’t just get those and think that you’re safe. I think you need to, you need to have the knowledge. And I think actually the knowledge is the starting point. You have to learn this stuff. You have to become aware, you have to think, you have to change how you think about all this stuff before you get the tools. The tools are kind of like, okay, the easy way out. I think I’m going to buy a silver bullet that’s going to solve all my problems.

But there is no silver bullet for the technology side of things. You have to know it. That’s what we try to do. We try to take a very complex subject and make it as simple as possible. And I think we do a really good job at that. We’re going to do a webinar. Can you tell us when the webinar exactly? 7:00 o’ clock on August 14th, right? Yes, 7:00pm Central Time. August 14th and. Yep. So we can get deeper into these. You’re going to give a presentation and do question and answers. I think the important things is the question and answers you’re going to give.

We’re going to talk more about this stuff and you have a talk that you give for a certain amount of time. It’s about an hour summit webinar and then people can ask questions. And it’s. So when I’ve had, we had hundreds of people there last time that we did this and this will be a different webinar than we did the first time. But people were so thankful because they got to ask questions, they got to learn about things. It’s. It’s really, it’s really informative. Yep, that’s what we try to do. We try to make it something that is educational, inspirational.

You know, some of the stuff we talk about, I mean, when you talk about what they’re trying to do, the world they’re trying to create, and I’m talking about the globalists and the governments and the big tech, all of that stuff, it’s pretty dystopian and it seems pretty dark, but I don’t believe that that’s necessarily going to be our future. I think we can stand up for liberty, like I said, and actually get more liberty than we’ve ever had. But we have to. It’s not going to just happen. We have to actively make that happen and become aware of that.

And it doesn’t mean we can’t use technology. You know, I mean, we can use all these tools, but we have to understand and be aware and then actually make sure these tools aren’t messing with us. Yeah, exactly. So, okay, guys, thank you so much for joining the program. August 14th, 7pm Central Time. And it, we. It’ll be amazing. And I’ve been doing webinars every few months now, and I’ve just been getting really great. Like the first one we did together, I got great reviews and people are really learning a lot from these webinars. So I’m so glad that you’re joining.

I needed to do another one on privacy and the surveillance. It is probably I, I say there’s two priorities. Two number one priorities for humanity right now, and that’s the global economic system and the surveillance state and what we’re dealing with. These are the two number one priorities. So thank you so much for being engaged and being. And having actual action plans and help for people, because that’s what they are struggling to do. How do they actually do something that can be helpful? Yeah. Well, thank you. And if you don’t mind, I want to just say one final thing.

So I was going through my list of five steps. And so the first step was be aware. Second step is get your house in order. Third step is share. Fourth step was use your talents to help help with liberty. And then the fifth step, I think is very important, and that is do everything you can do and then turn it over to God. And so don’t live in fear. Live your life. Live your life to the fullest love life. And. And I think that last step is very important because this. It can be very daunting when you look at this big global.

They’ve got all these power structures in place and they’re building this wall around us and everything. But, you know, all we can do is what we can do, and then we just have to turn it over to God. So I just wanted to leave on that. That message there. But that’s important because I think right now people are all. All. We’re in a turning point. We all feel it. And I think that letting go. Go. Doing. Working as hard as you can, doing everything you can, and simultaneously letting go is. Is where the power’s at. Yeah.

In everything you do, really. I mean, because you can’t. By worrying to death, you’re not going to get it done. Right. So in. In anything that you do. I mean, to be the best athlete. I used to coach a lot of athletes. To be the top athlete, you have to do exactly that as well. Because worrying yourself, you can’t. It never helps. So you do. You bring God into it. Thank you so much for bringing that up because that’s. That is such a nuanced, important lesson that everyone can benefit from. Yeah. So. Okay. Thank you, guys.

Excellent. Well, thank you, Sarah. And we’ll see. Thank you very much. Yeah, thank you, Sa. Sam.
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