Blackmail Power Corruption: The Currency of the Empire – Epstein more w/ Joachim Hagopian

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And I first met him when he. He was doing a deep dive into blackmail and the pedophilia networks with Robert David Seale. He. We were just both involved in that. And he’s written, I think, six books on many different topics, and one of them being the whole blackmail network and how it goes to the very top of society. He’s pretty connected with the intel community and some of the people that he works with are really connected or part of the intel community. And he has broken stories and talked about stories that a lot of people won’t talk about.

I get nervous talking about anything with a specific person when it comes to the blackmail network because I know that blackmail, there’s many victims on all sides of this. The children, number one, that are used for blackmail. That is an amazing crime that needs to stop. The Epstein children blackmail pedophile network is. He’s not the only one. It’s just the tip of the iceberg. It’s how it works. And these children need to be protected and saved. That being said, there are Also other victims in that. And these are the people who’ve been blackmailed who aren’t part of this network, who never wanted to be, maybe found themselves part of it and want out.

And how did they get part of it? Maybe they were drugged, woke up with the child. It’s, it’s, they’re just as horrified as we are with the whole pedophile thing. And now they’re blackmailed and they’ll destroy their career if they don’t do what’s right in the minds of the powerful. Those are victims too. I have, I care more about the children than I care about them. Although from a standpoint of what they wield and some of the irrational decisions that they’re forced to make, I care about that being cleared from their, from them. I care about the blackmail system being cleared so that we have people in the system who aren’t making irrational decisions.

And, you know, Joaquim and I talk about how this works. We have so many people too, that are just order takers. I think if you’re in a position, all you do is follow orders so that you’re a good soldier. You should be fired. I mean, if you’re in a leadership position and you have no ability to lead and all you do is follow orders and the orders you’re following are bad guys, and you just want to be this faithful soldier and people look at you that way, you should be fired. You’re worthless. I’m sorry. I, I, those people, I really don’t like just rule followers because they just, they’re icky.

They’re just icky. You’re, you’re just, you have no sense of integrity and morality at all. You’re just following rules blindlessly, mindlessly. But beyond that, it’s, it’s a system that needs to be exposed so that we can, you know, flourish, so that good decisions can be made, so that we can focus on what’s good for humanity and we can move in a different direction. A lot of people, I say this in this interview, I’ve had quite a bit of people tell me already that we’ve won. Like, well, I don’t say it’s really low. It’s pretty desperate right now.

But they claim that we won because there’s enough of us that are just done. This is not okay. And I don’t know if we’ve won already or not, but it’s important that enough of us see how the games are played so that we can dismantle it. And I had somebody on X tell Me that, you know, Epstein’s dead. Who cares? And, like, well, that the point isn’t about that guy. The point is understanding how the system works so that we can create a better system. That’s what it’s about. And so I wanted to talk to Joaquim about what he understands behind the system.

My research with. Unless you personally see it yourself, you can’t trust a lot of these sources and a lot of this documentation. And I would say that 99.99% of journalists don’t go that extra mile, Almost all of them, you know, so everybody doesn’t go that extra mile to just make sure that this intel is accurate. And so it’s very, very difficult. All of us have been caught up into it. So when it comes to who’s a black male victim versus a perpetrator, it’s very hard to distinguish the difference. And because of that, and that’s the only thing that I.

In this area that I would say, okay, we don’t know on a lot of these levels. That being said doesn’t mean that we want to cover up and allow this to continue. So this is a really, really good conversation. I really like Joaquim. There’s very few people in the world that’s willing to have the courage and confidence to cover this the way that he has. And so I’m so thankful that there’s people like him out there. And we talk about this from all different perspectives. I think it’s something that. It’s not a dark episode. This is not a dark episode.

We’re talking about many ways to think about it from a critical thinking standpoint, and I think that this is actually light, a little bit more light, and I think you’ll appreciate that. Before I get into that, though, I have been covering the Ira Gold scam, and I’ve had a journalist that came that used to write for Undercover DC and his pen name is Charles Drake, but he got sucked into this Ira Gold scam. And what he did is he went through, Worked with Miles Franklin. Worked. I. I said, I introduced them, and I’ve been doing. I’ve introduced probably hundreds of people now on people who’ve been scammed on their ira, and Andy Schectman and Miles Franklin are working directly with people to recover funds.

It’s really quite amazing. And what we’re learning is that there are many, many popular celebrities and influencers that are promoting these companies. And they might not realize it. I think most of them don’t realize it, but it’s past Time where they need to start thinking about it and realizing it and looking at their own companies. But this investigative journalist was scammed himself. And so he went through the process with Miles Franklin. He didn’t tell Miles Franklin he was in journalist. He didn’t tell him that he was going to write this article. And he wrote the article on his own experience, what he’s been through from all the way from when he started the podcaster that sold it.

He’s not using names, but he’s trying to help you understand he doesn’t want to be, he doesn’t want to get sued. I mean this is really a kind of a dangerous situation. And so he’s explaining and getting, hopefully helping you understand what he’s been through, how to critically think about it. And then when he went through with Miles Franklin with them, knowing how they helped him get his money back and how he was engaged getting his money back, and then finally he got his money back. The issue with all of this is we’re trying to get people to ex share with us what their experiences are, but they’re all being, they’re all signing non disclosures.

So to get a journalist to do this is a big deal and I hope you take the time to read it. I’ll have it published on at sarahwestall.com and on my substack@sarah westall substack.com and I’ll have a link below so that you can read it yourself. I think it’s really important that people start understanding what’s really happening. Investing in gold and silver is really important. It’s, it’s a protection for your assets. Especially with the current turmoil and the reset going on and the fact that they’re backing the future economy with gold and silver. It’s, it’s a big deal to have some of your finances in gold and silver and they are taking advantage of it.

And it’s a massive scam going on. And that’s how scams work the best is when something really is important, then they use that to scam people and scare people instead of, instead of doing what’s right. They don’t need to be bad guys, but there’s so many bad guys on earth and they’re using the goodwill of, of both the influencers, the podcasters and the people to take advantage of them. And then the cognitive dissonance of the influencers that they are selling a scam. You know, it’s really a sad situation. But please look at your IRAs. Please read this article and know that if you want a company that you can trust, you can use Miles Franklin.

If you think you’re in that situation, go to Sarah Wessel.com Miles Franklin. Fill out that form. I hand deliver it to Andy. Also, if you’re looking at getting gold and silver, you know you can trust them. They’re not going to scam you. Okay, let’s get into this really good conversation. It was actually therapeutic for me. I hope you get a lot out of this with Joaquin Hagopan. Joaquin, welcome back to the program. Yeah. Good to be with you again, Sarah. Well, she’s my dog outside. I can’t even hear him. I think, you know, there’s new filters.

You can’t hear anything anymore. Well, I gotta tell you, you’ve been in this game for a long time. You’re a West Point graduate. You have been researching human trafficking and blackmail networks for a long time. How long have you been doing that now? I’ve been doing it about 11 years, so about the same time as me. I got in a couple years before, but I got the couple years before. I don’t know if I was really even mentally in it. I mean, I was doing more business stuff and Edge of Change and cool things, but I didn’t quite.

It took me a couple more years before I got exposed to this. And then it was one of those, isn’t it one of those things that it just kind of knocks your socks off and you’re just like, oh, my God, I, I, I have to cover this. Yeah. I mean, when I, I had some difficulties at West Point where they tried to kick me out, and I had to get a legal case going, due process. And I was able to win that case. First cadet to be brought back since, you know, the beginning in 1802. And so I saw up close and personal how things operate at the higher level.

You know, I was dealing with generals, you know. Yeah, why did you, why did you get kicked out? That’s interesting. And then you got back. They ran up my demerits on false charges. And at the time, a cadet had no rights. There were no rights. You could write it right back to the guy that was giving you the demerits, like he’s gonna, oh, okay, and rescind your demerits when he gave it to you in the first place. So I had no, no rights. Due process. And so I brought the constitutional right of due process to West Point after 170 years of non constitutional rights there.

They had railroaded anybody that didn’t. Like, they just ran up the Demerits on false charges and got them out. And that, that happened to probably thousands of guys over the since 1802. Wow. Why did they try to do that to you? You were too independent of a thinker or. I was a rebel. I grew my side sideburns down to here and they’re supposed to be up here, you know, I mean it was really picky, tacky bullshit. But were you doing it? You always push every single boundary. Is that your personality when you were a kid? I’m natural born rebel.

I, I, you know, I’m kind of like kind of from the theory of anarchists. You know, I, I don’t like establishments with rules that are invasive. Invasive. And, and you have to, yeah, I understand the military, you know, you have to have the discipline and all that. They had an expression in order to be a good leader you must become a good follower. That was their big deal, you know. And I was the assistant squad leader to Lloyd Austin, you know, Biden’s secretary of defense. Oh my God, what a number that guy is. Anyway, he, he, he took it all the way to the top.

He, you know, he used affirmative action to go all the way and, and he followed orders. He was a good order follower and reached the pinnacle of success in, in our country. But he was a very corrupt individual. He rose up under Obama and, and then of course Biden made him his secretary of defense and he, he, he’s responsible for the wokeism throughout the military, you know, or you’re trying to clean it out now under Trump. But oh man, you guys knew each other very well when you were at West Point because you were his assistant squad leader.

That’s so interesting. What did you think about him then? Was he, he was an order follower? Well, I was his assistant squad, so I was a junior and they had the hazing system. He was a freshman so you know, he had to click his heels and play the game. Oh, he was younger than you. He wasn’t the older than you. Okay, so you were his superior. He was a freshman. Ok. And, and I didn’t believe in the fourth class system. You know, I, to me, you know, I don’t buy into, in order to be a good leader you’ve got to be a good follower.

I don’t go that route. And it’s all ticky tacky rules anyway. So I mean it doesn’t, it doesn’t add to the inner discipline that a person develops. It doesn’t help and it doesn’t help them become a leader either. Well, don’t you think, and I want to push back a little bit on this. Don’t you think a good, a great leader, being a good follower of a great leader is a sign of a good leader versus being a good follower of a, of a crappy leader isn’t a good sign. Right, Right. Well, no, you can be a good role model as a leader and you get, basically you get a whole lot more.

And you know, and then I got up into mental health and I was a manager in mental health of various companies. And, and basically the dynamic is you treat other people with respect and, and fairness. And yet, you know, if you need to set limits, if they’re not measuring up, you have to set limits, but you get their respect where they will work extra hard. That’s a good leader. You know, that’s right. And when you also, as a leader, you also follow your followers a lot of times, well, you have to depend on your, the followers, that’s for sure.

Well, if you follow, you would follow somebody doing something good, no matter what it is. And then you, you kind of switch. You be. You’re leading, but you’re following their lead in their expertise too. I mean, it’s just not this black and white situation in the real world is my point. But go ahead. Yeah. So anyway, so, so I was always questioning things, you know, and also that was the time where I was there the last four years of American involvement in the Vietnam War. Had I been a year earlier, I might have been sent there.

Thank God I, I, that I didn’t have to face that. But did you end up graduating then? Yeah. Okay. They kicked me out the end of my junior year. So I got the court case and got back in for my final sen. Spent five months in room confinement where I go to class and have to come right back to my room for five straight months while all the rest of the seniors are out there driving their new cars and you know, all that. But anyway, yeah, you get through it. You know, I only had the one year left.

Was it worth it? I mean, that’s. The whole thing is when you, that’s why people become. Don’t like to break the rules, because the consequences of breaking the rules is thing like things like that. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. Even though it was worth it to me to, to do what I did, first of all, I, I did feel proud that I changed West Point history for the better, for the constitutional rights. That’s a big. And it just gave me a sense of accomplishment to be able to get through under such harsh conditions because they made my life very miserable for quite some time because UPI picked it up, it went around the world.

Time magazine ran an article on it. I was a, I was a black name. I mean, they really knew who I was and they went after me as an officer too. So yeah, I was. Did you gain respect though too? Did you? What’s that? Did you also gain respect? I mean, you, it’s kind of a double edged sword when you do something like that. You up, you, you went against the system, you made positive changes, so you created enemies, but you must have garnered respect as well. Well, I can break it down with fellow cadets. I would say one third of them are the order followers that rise up in the ranks.

You know, they go up the ladder because they’re good order followers. And order following means that you, you give or you write up other people, you know, and that makes to your superior, you look like you’re in the system and enforcing the rules and that they reward that, you know, rather than the dynamic of being a good leader and getting some real productivity from, from your, your, from the people that you are supervising. So yeah, it was about a third of the cadets respected me tremendously for what I did because I brought rights to them too, you know.

Yeah, you can’t get Damaris without having some say. And, and so it was a good thing with about a third and about a third hated me. But the officers, I think, thankfully there were some really good officers that did support me. But you know, 95 of all the officers at West Point, they hated me. And out in the army too, they. Well, but they were rule followers probably. And then there was a third probably that just didn’t want to associate with you because it didn’t want to reflect on them. They didn’t care. It was more about how it reflected on their.

Afraid probably. Probably about a third might have been indifferent. You know, maybe they didn’t even know who I was, even though, I mean, it’s a very insulated institution. So, you know, I might have had a court case and half the court cadets didn’t even know. And particularly if they’re freshmen because you don’t even get access to newspapers and stuff until you’re like a sophomore. You know, it’s really strange. They really insulate you there and do the brainwash on you. So now you just weren’t very susceptible to brainwashing, it looked like. And you were also more of a independent spirit.

And they don’t like independent spirit in. No, they don’t. It’s just not the way and you can apply it to the corporate world because it’s the same kind of peer pressures to play the game, ingratiate your boss, you know, and you get points and then you get promoted. It’s the same game. Well, and some of it is necessary of making sure you’re a team player to help make the company work. But you also, if you want entrepreneurial spirit, you need to learn how to be an individual and a team player at the same time. But I noticed that, you know, so many companies want to bring in independent, fresh thinking entrepreneur spirit.

But when you bring somebody like that in, they put up so many walls and so many barriers that it never works anyways. You know, okay, in the corporate, have more corporate experience. I was in management and mental health. But you know, I, I enjoyed, you know, obviously you make more money and manage it. I’ll tell you, you can be a licensed therapist and you’re, and you’re required to get a master’s degree at least or PhD. It’s the lowest pay out of all the, you know, graduate degree people. They get paid the lowest here. They’re helpers of other people and they’re paid the lowest.

You know, that that’s a reflection, a value system we’re living in, in our society where they do not recognize or value people that help other people. And wouldn’t it be a much better world if we were all kind of like almost like programmed to want to help other people? Because it’s a two way street. It’s not just oh I’m so good doing this for somebody else. You get back, you know, when you help another person, it makes you feel good. You know, it’s a two way street and it’s a win win. And if we could just allow people to express themselves in, in the service of other people, you know, it would be a beautiful world.

We could change the world, transform it. Yeah. If you have a different mindset. Yeah, you get paid a lot to do butt lifts and face lifts help people that way. But it’s to the rich and the famous and I don’t know how much you’re not helping their soul. Right. I mean it’s not enriching their soul. Right. And it helps you grow. And when you, when you know you’re part of a bigger system and you’re helping and it’s a mutual thing, it really makes for life, the quality of life goes up tremendously. That’s right. Well, we first met each other back when you were working with Robert David Steele and you were Doing a whole expose on the blackmail pedophile child trafficking network.

I was doing a. I met Robert David Steele as well and it was an interesting, turbulent relationship I had with him. There’s very interesting behind the scenes. He didn’t pull any punches sometimes and he’d tell you what he thought. And so he told me what he thought about me on a number of occasions. Told me to go F myself a couple times. But he also, which was interesting. But I did a six part series, got to know James Rothstein very well, which is probably one of the world’s and is certainly one of the top American heroes in our country.

He sure is. Yes. Yeah. He’s taken down more pedophile networks within the CIA and the top brass than anybody ever. And he’s quite amazing. And his informant, by the way, was Roy Cohen. You wouldn’t be able to take down the kinds of networks that he took down without having an informant like that. That that’s why he was able to do it. But he was also had incredible integrity. But at that time, Robert David Steele sent me an email. I remember he was just like this little kid in a candy store. Oh my God, Sarah, what is he like? You know? Oh, wow.

And I went there, I didn’t know anything. I just went and I met with them and I got to know him and I knew him as a person and I just didn’t see it because I’m not in the intelligence agency. So I just saw him as a regular person. I think he appreciated that and I really respect, respected who he was once I started learning the situation. Robert David Steele flew out there the time at one of the times I met with them to meet up with them and so did Veterans Today. One of the editors of Veterans Today, they just all had to go meet him while I was out there.

And I thought that was really interesting because I didn’t understand the level of respect he had with inside the intelligence agencies because I am not part of that world. So when you saw that and you were working in that environment, what, what would you say? Can I say this? How would you say, what did you learn about the pedophile networks within the CIA and within, you know, the intelligence world? I’ll tell you the, the intelligence services and the big three, of course are CIA, Mossad and MI6. But every country has an intelligence agency. And what I found in all the research that I did, four years and three months of it to do those five books, Pedophilian Empire, I found that the coordinators of the Global Child Sex trafficking were the intelligence agencies primarily those big three.

And so, I mean they were in the darkest, you know, part of what it is to be human. And unfortunately they’ve been able to continue not just, you know, doing the child sex trafficking and, and you know, as a blackmail system that makes sure that the people that are in positions of gatekeeping power, I mean the ones that are higher, that own the people that are the gatekeepers, of course might be the bloodline families, you know, much related to the Rothschild and Rockefellers and the controllers through being the money changers, the banking cabal system, because that’s a higher level.

And then you have their, their lower level is people like, like World Economic Forum, you know, Claus Schwab, he’s on lower level. And you know, there’s, there’s people on that level and then there’s people we don’t even know about that are, they’re smart enough to not be public. You know, what would you want? I would say that, I mean if you were doing all this and you were acting, you had all this power, would you really want to be in the public eye? I mean, honestly. Of course not. If you were doing all these terrible things, the last thing you want is to be a public figure because somebody astute will link and then the next thing is they’re coming after you with, trying to expose you for what you are.

I’ll tell you, the, the Rothschilds are very insulated. They’ve been behind all this bad stuff on earth for just the Rothschilds though, because there’s a Palantir. No, no, no, there’s a bunch. Yeah. Because you know, when you talk to Janda, he believes the Palantirs are the top of the, the and they are really behind the scenes. Well, let’s face it now, it’s a technocratic kind of tyranny that, that we’re moving towards. And so obviously the, the big entrepreneurs of the tech industry like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk and the rest of them, they play a huge part.

And so obviously they may not be, you know, the, the bloodlines from two centuries ago. They could be, you know, somebody that’s entrepreneurial mind and is a multi billionaire now and has all the power of a person of that kind of wealth. Yeah. But they meet up, we’re moving in that direction technocratically where everything is, you know, it’s, it’s a 247 surveillance system. Now we’re living in this, you know, but we’ve been living in this for, I would really argue we’ve been living in a surveillance system that keeps getting more and more sophisticated for decades. And when I was in big tech and telecom, I was responsible for doing the data structure, the modeling of all the data across the Internet stuff.

And back when I was a kid, I was in my 20, mid-20s, and I realized, oh my God, the power you have. But I thought about it in a positive way. The power you have to know everything and connect all this data and holy crap. That gave me the insight today of understanding what this surveillance system could do. For example, the digital id. You just have to track the digital id. It could be very simple. And then they could have another system that has your digital ID in it where they track everything else. So they could technically put through a very simple legislation with just tracking one ID measure that tracks to that same ID measure in a very sophisticated surveillance system and then have everything on you anyways.

Keep going. Yeah. So I had to throw that in. I wanted to make sure I threw that because I was just thinking about it lately and I’m like, how do I explain to people how surveillance, how something simple could lead to something extremely powerful? And I need to build that out a little bit more. But keep going. Well, you know, now that Palantir is, is. It’s a fascist government that is joined at the hip with the big tech. And Palant has gotten the job of doing the data analysis on all of us, every single American. Now, let’s see.

And I know that you just said it’s been going on for a long time. I think that’s a front. You know, I had, I think it’s real, but I think it’s a front because I had, I, I’ve been thinking about. And I broke it all down in my substack. I think they are you. I think it’s real that they’re using these guys, but I think it’s. They’ve been doing it like Bill Binney said, they’ve been doing it for decades. They need a front to move it to corporate so that it’s legal. And then they can just use legal corporations to do it and shift it from the NSA and the intelligence agencies, just like they did with Google and the Internet.

But it’s much broader than Palantir. I mean, they’ve been spending 90 to $100 billion a year for decades. And now suddenly somebody with a 2 billion dollar contract is going to take it all over. I’m like, I. That’s just, to me, it’s like, come on, guys, because I, I know how the whole, I, I just, I know how things can get designed. Like, that’s, I, I think it’s, I think it’s real, that their contract is real and I think they’re going to have a ton of power, but it’s bullshit that they’re the only ones. But keep going.

Well, the, the big thing to pay attention to, though, is where it’s going. And that’s right, basically thought crime. That’s where it’s going, you know, based on what you have put out there. And they’re watching you all the time now, everything you’re doing. And of course, you know, they want that, you know, digital ID and digital currency so that we have no more cash. And that way they can zone in on everything you’re about. Everything you do is under that microscope that they have on you. And, and where it’s going is, is if you have a mind of your own and can discern the truth and then have the courage to speak it or write it, you are on a list that they’re going to come and take you away.

And you know, and I have, I, I’m saying we’re all Palestinians. Look how they’re getting away with what they do to all the children. And, and what do you think about. And I said they want to depopulate. So I mean, we’re, we’re all in the crosshairs right now. How, how awful is that situation? I mean, there is nothing, I’ll tell you, I, I, I, I would never believe this could happen where it’s up close and personal because, you know, if you have an ex account or you know, social, any kind of platform, it’s all out there.

The, the horror show is in your face and there’s no organization that has the strength and power to stop it. I mean, it’s just, I mean, the UN is useless. You know, first of all, they’re globalists and, and the who, thank God, the, the, the government, our government finally did something right and, and said, you know, all those new provisions they were tacking on, they turned it down just recently. I know James Rose Guski and his, and the team of people that Rema Labau and all those guys, Dr. Rima, all those people that have been working really hard to fight the World Health Organization, the Trini, they deserve a big round of applause.

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And we’re going up to nine or whatever. No, we’re going down now. You know, with the lifespan is, is dropping now significantly. Well, that’s because of all the crap that they’ve been doing. I think that this is my theory. I think that anti aging, the real possibility of doing anti aging which I think could be really great for a lot of people because you people live in misery for like the last three decades of their life. It’s really, really sad. With all kinds of health issues. It is. They’re isolated, they’re removed from society. It’s really bad.

I think the anti aging and they’re treated real bad. Yeah, I think the anti aging to give them dignity and respect. I don’t know if I want to live that much longer. But I sure would want to live with dignity and respect and feel great at the end of my life. Yeah. But I think that stuff is coming out. They’re holding that back from people. But I think that could realistically change the population and they don’t. I think that’s why they’re doing it. That’s my opinion. Dr. Rima, I asked her point blank in an interview if that’s what she says, believes and she said that’s exactly what the reason why they’re doing it because the anti aging could double our population if it actually got out to the average person.

But I don’t think they’d ever let it get out to the average person. No. They kept so much from us as far as the. The healing. You know. Rockefeller took over the whole medical field in America. Western medicine basically. And it’s all drugs now, you know, and they. They don’t even train. And of course with the whole thing that went down with COVID and the kill shot, that’s still taking its toll. You know. I’ll tell you, the confidence that the public has in the government and in the medical system, in the law enforcement system, in every system now it’s like you can’t trust.

There’s not a trust there. And this whole thing with. With. With what’s going on with Epstein, you know, and we know that there’s powerful people. We haven’t even talked about that yet. I know that’s what I was going to have you on. But there’s just. This is all connected though, isn’t it? It is. Everything don’t realize. Everything is. People don’t realize how much this is connected. I had a little debate on. With somebody on accent. He said you do you. I’m not here to. I really am not here to force anybody my thoughts. I just want to inform people so they can think and critically think.

The most important thing is for people to critically think independent thought, which they hate. That’s why they hate it. And that’s why it’s the most important critically think about some of these things in all fields. But he’s like, I don’t even care about Epstein. That guy’s dead. And I said but it’s it. First of all, the most everybody who has power was somehow affiliated with him, which is weird. And it reflects this whole. The blackmail system is the currency of the powerful. It. It is how they control all of these people, isn’t it? Yes, they. They groom people and they make sure they’re compromised through, you know, sexual blackmail.

The currency of Children, you know, used as that. It used to be a long time ago in the 50s where, you know, the honey pot was another woman and the guy cheated on his wife. You know, I hope I was so much better if it was still that I’d be, yeah. The good old days. That be the thing. Not children. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It, it just gravitated to that because that was the only shocking thing that could get a person into trouble. Yeah. Because nobody cares if you’re having an affair. Nobody cares if you’re gay. Nobody cares about it.

Nobody cares if you’re doing drugs unless you’re a druggie. I mean, we don’t really care if you smoked weed when you’re in college. I mean, we don’t care about all that stuff. But if you were with a child. Yes. And I don’t know if that’ll ever change. I, they’re trying to make that change they want to make. Oh, they’ve been trying to normalize it forever. You know, the powers that shouldn’t be. But they’re. No, there’s something innate, I believe in the human being development that says that’s not okay. Now I, I’ve heard other people, you know, talk about other cultures where, you know, they’re more nerd.

The adult is nurturing the child sexually, you know, but I, it doesn’t work in Western society. There’s abuse in Western society. Do you believe that’s nurturing of the child? I, I, or is that them? I don’t buy it. Having mental gymnastics to make their own crazy, make their own sick habits. Okay. It’s the adult sickness operating. I, I don’t buy it. No. Yeah. It’s just this mental games, twisted mental games to make their sickness okay. And the child is never okay with that. You’re not lovingly nurturing somebody. You’re saying sick, convincing yourself of something. They, they will come back and say it’s the society that makes it, you know, the child feel ashamed.

And that’s where the abuse. Yeah, right. That’s how sick they are. They twist everything upside down. That’s so and so. I don’t think any reasonable, normal person is going to be okay with that. No. Right. And do you think they’re okay with that there? Do you think of normal, reasonable people are okay with that? Or do you think because cults can, and some cults and culture can convince people of pretty sick things. Until you take a step back, you know, I’m sure that you probably come in contact with people that were, that have grown up in The Illuminati families where they do the MK Ultra, you know, and the all kinds of sadistic, horrible things they do to their children, including of course, you know, all kinds of pedophilia as well.

But I mean they witnessed some horror and you know, I, I don’t see how you can actually recover from that. I worked as a licensed therapist for many years with, with many of them were pedophile victims, but it was like their father or stepfather or something like that. It wasn’t somebody in a cult. A cult, you know, Freemasonry, 33 degree or you know, Malta Knights are Jesuits with their secret society, you know, ritual abuse. You know, I never worked with anybody in that kind of arena but, but anyway, I can attest to the damage that it does to a child where they don’t have the lifespan of the rest of us and they get into drugs or alcohol as an escapism.

It, and the system is so horribly set up, the legal system. It’s just horrible for the victims. It’s so against the victims. It’s not supporting the victims. It supports the perpetrators because they are the ones with, they are the ones with powers. Now do you think that it supports the low level perpetrators because they know they’re more apt to get caught and due time? Yeah, because they like to point out when you got a low level one, you like to take them, take them down and point to them because then it looks like you’re doing something right.

And their competition and they don’t want, they don’t want the, they, they are okay with it, but that they want the rest of the people to be good soldiers. They want us to be relatively mentally healthy and enough to follow their orders and, and do what they want us to do. Right, because that’s better. It’s easier people, that’s what I mean, program people to, you know, you, you mentioned critical thinking and they don’t teach that in school, you know, or maybe in some private school that’s pretty, you know, developed or something. But, but in general the public education system, you know, it’s a WOKE system and you get a bunch of crap there.

I think it’s contaminating the, the younger generations and look at the, the sexual identity confusion of the woke generations. You know, what they’re going through with dysmorphia where they, they don’t know who they are sexually. You know, back in the old day, you know, when there was just two genders, it was pretty clear, you know, and, and I, I have a lot of empathy for Anybody that. That, you know, may actually be transgender, they have all these feelings. But. But. But the. But the. The brainwash of it is done by, you know, the people that are doing the wars and all the rest.

It’s all part of the contamination process of society. Isn’t that incredible? They cram it down the throat of people. It’s incredible that they’re doing this and that. And when you have a group of even the true transgenders who. Who don’t like this, because it’s not. You know, I have therapists that I’ve talked to who’ve worked with them, and they’re like, this is not what it is. It’s not a social event. It’s not where a group of teenage girls come in thinking they’re boys. This isn’t how it works. This is a tormented individual who’s trying to become balanced.

And it’s a very small set of population. You first want. You first want people to feel good about their own body and be okay and in balance with what they were born with. If that is not, they have to get. Go do enough research with that person to see if there’s something more to it. The number one thing is to create. Create a balance within what you already have. Right. They knew that before. They inherently knew that, and they worked. And then they weeded out the very, very small group who they couldn’t do that with because there was something more to it.

Now they’re just skipping that whole process. Well, they start them so young now. I mean, the way. Way. I mean, at the kindergarten age, they start their brainwash, and, you know, it’s so damaging. They need to have the child to develop. They’re not even developing sexually until adolescence period, emotionally. So, yeah, I mean, but it’s a. It’s a intentional brainwash that will mess up a lot of young people, and. And we have generations of it now of messed up people. Well, Rothstein told me, God, I learned so much from him, and so much is coming back, you know, that I just didn’t understand back at the day with all these new.

With these operations that are going on, because him and others infiltrated the New York groups. And it was Washington, D.C. as well, where they were planning back in early as. And probably before the 80s. But in the 80s, they were really planning on, how do we normalize pedophilia? And part of normalizing pedophilia is starting with this whole transgender stuff. And I know it’s gonna trigger people, but it really is part of their agenda. And then ignoring like what we just talked about before, the true steps of figuring out if somebody has gender dysphoria, the ignoring all of that, that’s on purpose to create.

I mean, obviously there’s multiple agendas where you can make some good money. Right. And that’s why you get the business people doing it, because they entice them with money and then they ignore all the other ethical ramifications of this. Like we just saw with COVID you throw money at people on a lot of business people. They ignore all these ethical things and you can get them to do all sorts of agendas, but they really are doing this to, to. To normalize pedophilia and other things. What do you think the agenda, beyond normalizing pedophilia? What do you think the agenda is with that whole, that whole area? Well, I mean, I think they have a.

A view relativism, moral relativism, where they can pretty much, they can, they can basically say to each his own, with their own sense of what’s right, what’s wrong. There. There is no fundamental right and wrong. And it’s all individualized based on your own subjective kind of judgment. And who are you to judge anybody else? You know, to each his own. Yeah, I mean, this is what the moral relative, this push, it’s a brainwash again. So, you know, it’s anything goes kind of mindset and you have no right to judge, you know, So, I mean, yeah, they’re like a libertarian to an extreme, like I consider myself a libertarian, but not where it crosses a line of hurting, hurting another person.

You can’t hurt other people. If you hurt other people, you go down. You don’t get to hurt other people. Being able to do whatever you want is not what freedom means. Right, yeah, well, I totally agree, but from their point of view, they would say, but what you think might hurt somebody, another person wouldn’t think that. They might think just the opposite. You know, I mean, it’s like they twist everything upside down. They’re sick mentally. Yeah, yeah. And. And unfortunately, these people, unfortunately, are many times in positions of power, and that’s what people don’t understand is really what you’re talking about.

Now I have a really good contact who was a psychologist within. He got a lot of military folks, a lot of MK Ultra, a lot of military, a lot of people in the high level of CIA and stuff that he helped. And I learned a lot from him on how this whole operation works. And I think when, you know, you having a therapist background and seeing it, it gives you A different perspective, doesn’t it? Yeah, yeah. I, I really valued my, my time working with kids. It’s like what I was saying earlier where the helping profession, it’s a two way street because you get a lot from it yourself.

You know. And the, the key is that when I ended up the therapist of, of a. You know, I worked with adolescents mostly that was my choice. I I with that age group because I felt like I had more impact with them than if they get older then it’s harder to reach them and change, allow them to change their life for the better. So anyway it’s, it’s like you’re able to hone in. I was, I’m also an astrologer so I use that a lot in my therapy because it gives you, you know, a person’s strengths and it gives you their problem areas.

You get, you already have that information on the person so you, what you can do. This is my therapy basically is you build on what, what developmentally they have as talents and skills. Everybody has potential and, and the blueprint of the map at the time you’re born for some reason it allows you to have that kind of information. It’s a really a gift of a personality and development. And so I would, I would hone in on what they potentially are very good at or have skills and abilities. And I would push that as. And it, and and then the part because they were all abused, you know, that’s, they were in the system, you know.

So I would work with kids in residential care. A lot of my work was involving that where they’ve been taken out of the biological home, that, that kind of thing. And, and so you, you just build on their strengths and, and then they are, they wear the baggage of their abuse, you know, because there’s always this sense of I deserved it, the bad stuff, they, they always carry that. And so you work through that, that it, you know, stuff is done to them and they didn’t have anything, they were a child. So you know, like that.

So you, you, you work on, you know, the guilt part and build on their strength part. And, and I saw a lot of teenagers really develop. It was, you know, like I said, it was a two way street where it made me feel good just to be able positive impact for another person early on in their life so that they could take that into adulthood and make the most out of their life and their ability. And you know, it was, it was a wonderful experience. I spent you know, 27 years in the mental health field after the military that was the field I was suited for.

And before I got into the writing. Were you able to help get convictions on perpetrators when you were doing that? Well, I mean, I was, I would deal with family courts and I’ll, I’ll tell you, you know, you talk about gatekeepers in the system. There are gatekeepers in the family court system. Judges and, and people that are the heads of the children protective services where they put children in harm’s way. I had a number of my clients that I was working with and sometimes because I, I was not in favor of their decision making for this kid and, and I would try and go to bat, but they wouldn’t even let me in the courtroom.

Wow. Here I’m their therapist anyway and I’ve written. I, I was a journalist for Global Research for many years and, and I, I wrote my. It was like almost therapy for me to write my experience in the mental health field in the field of where you’re dealing with family court, children’s court therapy. And I just saw a lot of bad decisions that were not helping children. So it was very hard for me. But. But anyway, the experience was great though. But you, you worry about. My sister’s a doctor and she had a child, a little girl who was.

That she had to do an exam with after she was assaulted by her family member. And then she had to do a court and helped get this person prosecuted. And she just remembers the, the little girl after she examined her, she was like three or four and she thanked her when she was done. Like she didn’t. Because she didn’t harm her or anything. And she thanked her and my sister remembers that and how, how she felt after being thanked by this little girl. That should not. A normal little girl would be like. Would just not want anything to do with it and you wouldn’t be thankful.

Right. So it was really. That was just something that really hit her and I remember her telling me about it. But she helped get, she helped the prosecution and this person get nailed. So. And I would think in some of that ways you would. That would feel good. But if you watch a family court not doing. Creating laws and rules and going against and harming more kids, it’s really difficult. But we have a really broken justice system terribly. I mean I. There’s some things that should be smoking gun easy, easy peasy things and it just never goes anywhere.

No. The system is so upside down as far as not helping the victim and, and just helps the perps, you know, especially obviously the ones with power. My books covered that well and that’s where people are like, sick of this is they’re just like, screw the system. All you’re doing is hurting us. We want to go back to common law because, so that the people actually have a voice again. Yeah, unfortunately, you know, the constitutional, you know, rights, the Bill of Rights and the amendments that are part of the Constitution, we don’t, it’s not upheld anymore.

I don’t believe, I mean, there are good judges, but most of them, no, they’re, they’re part of the system and they don’t uphold our Constitution. And what does it mean to be part of the system? Are we getting back to circling back to where we were at the beginning? They’re rule followers and they also. Yeah, yeah, there’s an agenda. I mean, there’s good cops, of course, and you know, in law enforcement and. But it seems like the ones that are, have the power, the ones that are given the power in any of these kind of fields are, are many of them anyway.

I won’t, you know, make the blanket statement, but many of them are part of this very poison system that we are now living with and they only will do go according to what is expected of them, which is basically to cover their own ass and, and you know, make sure that the people that have the power get away with it. Yeah, yeah. I, I, you know, I’ve been covering, doing this for so long like you, that I have been personally disillusioned. And so I, I’ve been spreading and I started this way where I wanted to look at the edge of change and the good and the bad and ugly.

But I’ve kind of done a full circle and said I want to look at the edge of change, but I want to change humanity for the better. Let’s look at some of these really great opportunities that we have. I’m still going to cover the crap that we’re talking about today, but I gotta mentally, for my own sake, get into some of these other ways that we can grow as a species. Because this is hard work, isn’t it? Yes. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you have to balance it with, with your personal life. You know, like I, I have a, a loving person in my life and it makes all the difference in the world because I delve into the worst aspects of humanity 12 hours a day.

I mean, it’s, it’s kind of madness actually. And if I didn’t have that counterbalance of, of being able to separate myself from the ugliness, I, I would not be able to continue to do what I do, as long as I have. You know, I feel blessed that way. But. But yeah, it’s really. And I, I think what we really need to do is, is, I mean, yes, we have to cover. We have to cover all the bad stuff because that’s the power structure. But at the same time, we have to move towards how we can elevate ourselves so that we’re not so impacted.

Even though we’re living in a stupid, messed up system, we have to balance it with the positive of life and we cannot separate ourselves with just negative. Negative. In fact, my girlfriend says, I don’t want to hear about that. You know, it’s like, okay. So. It’s like, okay. You know, so I rarely even talk about this stuff I deal with every day. But, but that’s why people say we’re gonna win. Like, I’ve had psychics and I’ve had quantum energy people, like, we are gonna, we won already because so many people see the darkness that they don’t want this darkness and they want it to change and they want to make it better.

And I don’t know if we’ve won already, but if there’s enough of us that want to be better and we want to change and get rid of this darkness, we could change this overnight. Yeah, we could. And you know, that’s that magic critical mass, you know. Yeah. It doesn’t have to be a majority. It could be like 30 or 40% like that. You know, we’re getting there. As times get harder, more people are seeing the reality of, of the power structure and, and they’re appalled by. Took a long time to even get the number of people that are awake now.

You know, we’ve been in the trenches for so long hoping that we would reach critical now. I mean, I remember like, you know, seven, eight years ago. Oh, yeah. When we reach critical mass, it’s gonna really be the turning point. We’re gonna, you know, and I, I still am waiting for that, you know, but yes, they have sped up all the horror show just in 20, 25 alone. You look at, you know, I mean, I’m writing over the last 10 days, I’ve done an article every two days. I’m just knocking them out, trying to stay on top of everything that is coming our way.

Well, I think that they’re only reacting to the fact that more and more people are getting it every day and, and, and they’re getting to the point where, you know, they know they’re not going to be able to get away with it. It too Much longer. There’s going to be more and more push it. And I believe that we will be mobilizing on a unified global scale. I believe that day is coming. It’s already happening, but, and we’ve got a ways to go. But as they push the death, you know, scene the death agenda on us, more and more, more people are going to react and want to, you know, oppose it.

And so, you know, know it’s coming. I mean, back when I started writing about this pedophilia crap, you know, you couldn’t even bring up the topic, oh, I don’t want to hear about that. That’s too ugly. You know, and in a way you don’t blame them. You know, I mean, I have family members that can’t handle it and all that. I, I have to respect that, you know, because everybody, they, they want, they have their family life and they, it’s like a little bubble. And I understand there’s so much out there. They don’t, they don’t want to clutter it with a negative, so they want to live their life.

But at the same time I, I say, well, if everybody was cloistered like that, then there would be no movement to counteract the evil. You know, you have to fight, you have to fight. We have to have more numbers on our side in uniform, unity to be able to fight. And, and that day is coming. I, I do believe that, that there’s going to be, it’s a really a war between good and evil. It is, you know, they say information war, the war between God or the devil, you know, I mean, it’s, it’s heavy duty times we’re living in and it’s exciting and fearful all at the same time.

But the key is not to feel so disempowered and powerless because, you know, being in, in the mental health field, the people that, that get depressed, the internal depression works on the body, there’s that mind, body connection. So when you feel defeated and powerless and they won and we’re just the victim, it’s going to impact on your body and you will not be in, in the physical form very much longer. That’s the way it works. So you have to feel, you have to have the mindset that we can do it. Even if it’s an illusion. We have to have it in order to have the chance that we are making progress for change.

I think we’ve won. I think, I think the mindset that we’ve, that, you know, that all these people, people are coming out and telling me Sarah, we’ve already won. They. We’ve won because there’s enough of us that are thinking this way and moving this way. I think the more people that come to that realization, it’s over. Well, I agree. I think that. But we have to mobilize. We’re coming. We’re coming to that point, I think, because the shit is hitting the fan this year. The 2025 is, is where they’re throwing every WMD in their arse basically at us now at the same time.

And they’re going to go with. They’re going with. They’re going with World War III and the crash in the economy this year and next year. I believe that that’s, that’s coming. It’s almost unavoidable. But, you know, that’s going to put people over the edge where they’re going to challenge what they’re doing to us. We’re all going to be on the same page very soon. As the worst comes our way, we will unify and mobilize. So. And that’s what’s happening now. Yeah. And I think that we have to be smart, we have to be critically thinking, and we have to realize that there’s.

There is a lot of misinformation, bad information, and intel leaks that come out. That’s not true. And we have to be able to take a step back, knowing the bigger picture. Like, how important is understanding Epstein from a blackmail standpoint? Why? You know, because people like, the guy’s dead. Who cares anymore? What would you say to something like that? Well, first of all, we got to treat our kids better. And we can’t have these, these bastards doing these horrible things to kids. So on a moral level, it has to be a challenge and attack so it goes away and we can protect our kids better.

But on, on another level, we have to, of course, realize that the only way the evil ones have been able to get away with all these centuries is because they have had a system whereby they’ve controlled their gatekeepers. And they’ve, of course, done it through blackmail or bribery or both. You know, you know, I, I think that our Zionist occupied government, from, you know, the executive branch to the congressional branch and into the judicial too, there are. There’s this very small minority that are working for us. The rest of them are peons to the controllers that are pulling all their strings, their puppets.

And they’re Zionist puppets. So it’s like everything’s for Israel. You know, it’s. It’s not about America first, and, and that is a really catalytic kind of conversion now with the whole Epstein thing, because people are realizing that, you know, maybe Trump’s not on our side. You know, he’s protecting this whole Epstein thing, covering it up. Look really bad. Right. I mean, he’s playing a lot. He’s. He’s using a lot of political capital. I was just on Dave Jander’s show, Operation Freedom, and I think the whole thing is pretty strange because he’s using so much political capital to cover it up.

He went. Years of talking about how he’s going to take Epstein down, and then he’s doing this. It just doesn’t. None of the behavior makes no sense. And other than there’s something more going on behind the scenes, and I know you’ve been covering it quite a bit. I. I don’t know what’s true and not true. I want to put that out there, because I don’t, unless I see firsthand the actual videos, the actual elements. I think this is a really hot situation, and everybody’s being blackmailed. I just. I just think there’s a hell of a lot more to this story than what we’re being told.

Well, I think that he’s owned by Israel, and I believe that he has been blackmailed. And I mean, most of the Congress. I mean, they are doing what’s right for Israel and not what’s right for America. Hold on one second. And they’re doing that with a genocide in the background, with, like, horrors in the background that is so obvious to the average person who’s willing to actually look at it objectively. So that. Right. This is pretty strong blackmail. Keep going. So it’s like. I mean, that’s the. The whole point is because I never imagined it would get like this, where you’re seeing the.

The horror of what’s happening in Gaza, and there’s no force in this world that is strong and good enough to stop it. I mean, it just goes on day in, day out. It’s like, you know what they did? They do. They. This is where I realized just how bad it was. This is really what hit me hard. And I wrote it in the substack article. This. This feels like the Holocaust story. Okay? They cut off their food, water, and supplies, and then they set up stations where people had to stand in line to get their food and water, and then they would randomly peg people off when they were in line.

The psychological trauma and control and abuse that they’re giving these people while they’re doing it, and this is sanctioned by their military commanders because Nobody’s. Nothing happens to these people that are pegging people off. And in fact, the one, you know, the very few days where people aren’t murdered in line, they actually put it in newspapers and cheer about it. How they, you know, and actually say, hey, we have nobody died in line today. It’s like how that’s, that really hit me hard about what we’re dealing the, the, how low this situation is and how, how captured the minds of these people are not just the Palestinians, but the minds of the soldiers of the Israelis who are captured mentally to be in that environment.

They, they’re brainwashed and controlled too, because nobody normal would do this and be part of this. My understanding is that many of them that have a conscience are actually committing suicide. They can’t handle it. It’s. It’s trauma on them. Yeah. Where they, they’re guilty, they feel guil, this kind. And then there are probably the majority, sadly, that are so brainwashed with their Jewish supremacism. And these are animals and we’re doing them a favor by killing them. I mean, it’s amazing. You know, I can’t say that, you know, you know, you get these, these polls out there and a certain percentage of the population is totally with the, the genocide in Israel.

I mean, how can, you know. I know. How can you possibly, how can you connect supporting the Israel people in the Bible, which, fine, great, let’s support the Jewish people. How can you connect that to their actions of genocide? That’s not supporting them. That’s like supporting your child in doing cocaine and abusing the dog. You, you. That’s not, that’s not supporting your child in those actions. You would love them, but you’re not going to support their cocaine use of the abuse of the dog. You know what I mean? It just, that makes no sense. Yeah. And you know, here, you know, the education system always devotes all this time to World War II and the concentration camps and all of the poor Jews that died in the.

Even though it was very much exaggerated. But, but now they’re the perpetrators. They are the ones doing it. And so it’s probably worse than whatever the Jews during World War II even experience. The Palestinians are experiencing something worse done by the supposed Jews that have already gone through a holocaust. So why would they be the perpetrators now? It just doesn’t make any sense to me. But, you know, that’s the brain. Is it, Is it an example of, you know, because the, A lot of the perpetrators of child abuse are those who have been abused themselves. Is it because they’ve been abused themselves.

So they, they, they’ve been abused over the years. Whether you believe in the true story at all. It’s an exaggerated. But it did happen and they have been, you know, people who, people have always went after Jewish people because they claim they killed Jesus or whatever. They, there has, there’s this biblical fight right. And there, and they have been persecuted over the years. But do you see them as taking their abuse on and then being abusers themselves? I mean, because that’s a very common pattern to a certain extent. Sure. I, I think that their, their programming is so upside down that I’m, I’m certain that many of them have come from abusive backgrounds and there’s so much pressure put on them to adhere to the, the Jewish way of, of, you know.

But anyway, yeah, I mean it’s disgraceful how they’ve been able to, Israel has been able to get away with what they’re doing and nobody’s stopping them. And I have to say, I mean I know that Iran did their part but they’re so afraid to enter a war with America and Europe and, and well, they don’t want to save their 80 million people to save the 2 million Palestinians. That’s the problem. They’re worried that if they go to war they’re going to be, they’re going to be obliterated. Right. I mean option, you know, that Israel might nuke them because Israel has no means of defense.

Iran’s too strong to, for Israel to defend itself. So if it came out to all out war, Israel would be wiped out. And, but they, they have that Samson option and that’s the concern I think to a great extent as to why Iran has to have so much restraint. They are concerned that they could be the victims of the next nuke bombs. Well and Iran’s not perfect either. So in the political propaganda war you can really make Iran look bad. You can make. Every single country can look pretty bad, the big ones. And so they’re using every single.

In the propaganda in the war of the masses. They’re using everything Iran did and they look pretty bad. Bad. But we can look bad too. Everybody can look bad. And that’s. Well, I think there’s been so much brainwash paint the Iranians, you know, since the, when they had the, the, you know, the Islamic revolution from that time on. And then they just been just like Russia and Putin, you know, demonized, demonized, bad, bad, bad, bad. It’s a brainwash and you know, they don’t deserve it. They’re not the ones that are the aggressors. The aggressors are always the United States and the western country.

They’ve always been the aggressor. Over the last, you know, 100 years it’s been like that. So, and even the, the so called terrorists, you know, the war on terror, all of that is the war is the west, the west has trained, arm and financed the terrorist movement, the Islamic terror. Don’t you think that if you’re going to be taking that some of the behaviors that we’re participating in, bombing countries and stuff, don’t you think we’re creating real life terrorists? I mean think about it. If you were, if you felt that you were back against the wall, you would, you would be creating terror.

I mean people are going to hate us. I mean how many terrorists would we be create. Is Israel creating in, in Gaza against Israel? I mean, yeah, if everybody killed my family I’d be like, I don’t care, I’m gonna go out and be right. Right. Well that’s the thing. Yes, it perpetuates revenge, which is just a human instinct. If you have your family kill good, you want revenge. And so yeah, it just perpetuates the animosity and the, and the whole war thing goes on and on. That’s why, that’s why we got to get back to human development and just be better.

We gotta be better. But that’s what the, they’re saying we won because more people are realizing we just have to be better. I do think the Internet is good for one thing. It gets us connected to all these other places and we start seeing the humanity and others in other regions and we’re not as susceptible to propaganda. What do you think of that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it’s a blessing and a curse at the same time. Like a lot of things basically. But, but yes, I mean the communication, the ability to find out information, you know, I mean, but you have to be very discerning because there’s so much garbage out there.

That’s right. But, but yeah, I mean I, I get, I’m pretty good at researching, you know and I have good search engines. You know, thank God for that because I’m able to put together a lot of pieces that you know, you just do the search and then you just put it out. It’s words and you can make something come to life. Where can people follow you? Well, my site is the governmentrag.com and then there is jamesh fetcher.org that also posts all my material and and Gordon duff’s the intel drop.org and then I do a Revolution Radio spot on Fridays.

I’m also involved two days a week with Jim Fetzer’s podcast as well. So between the talking and the writing, I’m a very busy man in these crazy times we’re living in. Thank you so much for joining the program. I really, really appreciate it. Well, it’s like, what’s cool is, like, this. This is not like the typical interview that I do. This is just, you know, one person talking to the other person, you know, and. And it’s not the usual format, so it’s. It’s like, you know. You know, we’ve known each other for probably, what, eight, nine years or whatever, and it’s like one friend to the next, you know? I felt that way, too.

We’ve been deeply involved in a lot of things, and we have insights that are pretty unique. I think that needs to get out there. We need to start. You know, it’s hard. This is really. I get the one thing. It’s really hard. And so when I have somebody who I know who’s been in the trenches, it feels good to talk to you. Yeah. Well, vice versa. Thank you so much. Thank you. Sarah. Sam.
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