A Globalist Agenda or Chinese Payback? Fentanyl #1 Cause of Death for People Under 49

➡ The article discusses the dangers of fentanyl, a potent drug that is causing numerous deaths in the U.S. It also introduces a new weight loss peptide, retatrutide, which is more effective than other similar products as it not only reduces appetite but also burns fat. The article further explores the possibility of China’s involvement in the fentanyl crisis, suggesting it could be a form of retaliation for past humiliations. Lastly, it promotes a highly accurate fentanyl testing strip that can potentially save lives.
➡ The speaker, who used to train emergency room staff on software updates, noticed a high number of young people being admitted due to fentanyl toxicity, many of whom did not survive. This led him to develop a testing strip for fentanyl, which is currently illegal in some states as it’s considered drug paraphernalia. The speaker argues that the strip could save lives by detecting the presence of fentanyl in substances, but some believe it could encourage drug use by ensuring the drugs are ‘safe’. The speaker also developed a cheaper urine test for fentanyl, which could be used by probation officers and employers, as current tests are too expensive and thus not widely used.
➡ Fentanyl, a powerful drug, is lethal even in small amounts. It’s often mixed with other substances like heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamine, making it even more deadly. While it can be used medically for severe pain, it’s highly addictive and dangerous outside of a controlled setting. Illicit fentanyl, often sourced from China and distributed by cartels, is a major issue, with many illegal pills containing lethal doses.
➡ The text discusses the dangerous use of the drug fentanyl, which is being mixed into alcohol and vape liquids, leading to overdoses and deaths. It’s also used in human trafficking to control victims. The text criticizes politicians who voted against a bill aimed at combating fentanyl use, suggesting they may have ties to companies benefiting from the drug’s medicinal use. The text also mentions a high number of unreported deaths among the homeless due to lack of autopsies.
➡ The text discusses the devastating impact of fentanyl, a powerful drug, on individuals and families. It highlights the story of a group that has developed a unique test to detect the presence of fentanyl in substances, aiming to reduce harm and save lives. The test is unique because it doesn’t require the substance to be altered, making it more likely to be used by drug users. The text also raises concerns about the source of fentanyl, suggesting it’s being intentionally distributed to cause harm.
➡ The speaker warns about the dangers of illegal drugs, especially those laced with fentanyl, which can be fatal even in small amounts. They express concern that drug education is not as prevalent in schools as it used to be, focusing instead on less vital topics. The speaker also mentions a website, fentanyltest.com, which provides educational material and support for those affected by drug use. They emphasize the importance of influential figures in young people’s lives advising against drug use, and criticize politicians who voted against measures to combat the drug crisis.

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It is easy and straightforward. Go to sarah westall.com under shop or use the link below and remember to use coupon code Sarah. Welcome to business game changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have JC Shepard come to the program. We’re going to be talking about the fentanyl that’s coming in the country and how it’s, it’s the number one killer from 49 and under and I don’t think people realize just how bad it is and I just drill them on some of the science. So you’re going to have to be bear with me a little bit because I wanted to understand how much does it really take to kill somebody.

He’s not used to coming on a program where someone’s going to like drill him on the science. And so I’m doing that. He, I kept making him answer these questions until I understood. So bear with me on a couple of these things. But I really want to understand how little fentanyl it takes to kill someone. And that’s what I was trying to get at. And is there, is it even possible to take fentanyl and not kill somebody? And that’s what we drill down to. And I pretty much, if you take any fentanyl, you’re putting your life at risk.

It’s that dangerous. And anything that’s coming in now that’s an illegal substance, almost all of it has some kind of fentanyl. And I kept drooling them. I wanted to understand why, if it’s that dangerous, why does everything have it so much have it on, you know, why is it all laced? And I mean the only conclusion that you can come to is they’re purposely trying to kill people. Purposely. And most of it is funded by China. China’s bringing it in and it’s crazy. And is it really China or is it a globalist plan or what is it China really wants to kill us? But maybe really why China is hell bent on doing this is there was a hundred year humiliation.

They call it the century of humiliation. And apparently in their culture it’s something that’s deeply ingrained that they’re resentful for that century humiliation that the people of the west did to the Chinese. And Japan was part of that as well. It wasn’t just while the West, Japan is considered part of the west now, I guess, but it’s. Many nations did it to them and it’s part of, in their psyche of getting back. And that’s what they’re claiming is why. What’s motivating China to do so much of this? This and other things. Right. It’s not just one reason, but maybe there’s also a bigger global agenda and the eugenicists helping to fund this as well.

But it doesn’t even matter. It’s the fact that it’s happening. And you know, I question, are there some politicians that or people that purposely want to use this to kill off vulnerable populations like the homeless, just like they did during COVID when they sent something into these nursing homes and that people in these nursing homes were dying at incredibly high rates. I, I don’t know what it was going into those nursing homes, but it was killing people. Or it’s like Canada doing the government assisted suicide. They’re killing the vulnerable people, people who are just depressed are getting are approved for government assisted suicide.

That is a communist mentality because they don’t view anybody who doesn’t compute contribute to society is someone they want to get rid of because it takes away from the communal society. That’s how warped some of these minds are. And people come in for more of a spirituality, you know, who are more spiritual or have a really good foundation. That way you realize that your soul is part of taking care of others and making sure that everybody flourishes is a holistic way of a society being healthy. Know, it’s like, it’s like a child. Some of those people, these ethicists believe that a child under two is not contributing to society and that their life isn’t doesn’t matter.

And that’s such BS because what it does, it corrodes the, the spirit and the soul of the nation and it takes away the health of the entire population because you don’t care about, you know, a group of people. I can’t stress enough how holistic health and the, the mind and the soul and your body and your spirit is nourished through taking care of others. And when you stop doing that, it hurts you and it hurts the rest of society. And that very, that notion, that holistic way of looking at the world is what’s been lacking right now.

They don’t get it. They’re so micro focused that they don’t understand the holistic view. And that’s a problem with so many things not looking at the holistic. But this episode is really good. We’re talking about Fentanyl. He has these tests, these testing strips and they are so accurate that it gets down to less than 1 nanogram. He’s saying that other tests that are on the market only test for 10 nanograms and that’s enough to kill five to 10 people. So they’re actually worthless. His is the only test on the market that will do this and it’s available to you today.

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Use my contact form to get hold of me and I will help you. I’ll get back to you right away as well. Okay, let’s get into this really good show, this really informative show with J.C. shepherd. Hi J.C. welcome to the program. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. Well, it’s an important topic. We’re going to be talking about fentanyl and what’s really behind it. But can you give people a brief overview of who you are and how you got to the point where this is so important to you? Sure. So My name is J.C.

shepard. I’m a conservative entrepreneur. And how I got into this, it’s pretty interesting. I’m kind of a software geek. So I worked in healthcare IT and we had a, a major system. It’s one of the top three systems used as a healthcare CRM, from patient intake coordinators all the way to, you know, neurosurgeons specialists and doctors to put all their, you know, critical care and such in to patient notes. So when we did, you know, upgrades to the system or we recoded something, we had to actually go and physically train the staff on these. And a lot of the times I found myself in emergency rooms in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio and New York.

And I got very sick of seeing individuals that were admitted, you know, 25 and under in terms of age being in there, probably about 85% of the time was acute fentanyl toxicity and many of them did not survive. So that’s when I really got an inkling to start something and change the game in terms of testing. Because what was going on then and still what’s on now with what government and states are using, it’s not working, plain and simple. And we still have a battle with even states like Texas, which is the largest border state. Fentanyl test strips that can actually save lives are still deemed illegal because they call them drug paraphernalia.

Wow. Okay. So we gotta get into that. Yeah, why would they. They don’t want to ban it because they want it to come in for some reason. So first of all, you said something. Why were you in the emergency rooms? What got. Why were you finding yourself there? So I was training individuals on our new software updates. So again, patient coordinators, you know, physicians, assistants, nurses, anytime they would touch, you know, a patient’s chart or, you know, basically see them, they have to log that. So when we made changes in our healthcare CRM, I was actually one of the individuals who would go and train the emergency room staff.

So that’s how I really found fentanyl to be such an incredible scourge. And it was really, you know, hurting young people. And truly, it’s the number one killer of adults 18 to 49 and the fastest growing killer of children under 14. So something is needed to be done. Okay, so you were in there because in case the system wasn’t going to work, you had to make sure or they didn’t understand it was that critical to make sure it was working right then. So you were in the emergency room at that point and you were seeing it.

I know, most people I know know of somebody who’s died of fentanyl. You know, my kids are in their early 20s, so my son’s not in his early 20s, he’s in his later 20s now, but he, they both know people who have died of fentanyl overdose. It’s. It affects all of us. Now, when you said that the strips, you have a testing strip and, and it’s banned. Why would it be banned as drug paraphernalia when it’s testing to see if the drug exists? What is the underlying reason for that? That’s a really good question. I mean, technically, it’s probably all speculation on this, but realistically, what we’re hearing, and obviously in some of the states, they basically call this a gateway to get people to use more drugs because they know they’re safe.

And that makes no sense to me because I’ll be straight up honest with you. You know, people are going to do what they do. Now, hold on a second. You’re testing strip. Let’s let people understand what it does, because that doesn’t make sense. You’re. To people who don’t know what does. The testing strip tests to see what if fentanyl is in the drug? And they’re saying that, right? Yeah. So basically, Sarah, these test any surface or substance you could wipe it on. Any surface, any drug, any pill you break apart to test and even liquids like drinks, because people spike drinks for human trafficking all the time.

I mean fentanyl incapacitates you. So but yes, basically you can test any substance with our harm reduction test, which is down to 1 nanogram, which is a grain of salt’s worth of fentanyl, it will find that it will keep you safe. But you know, here’s the, here’s the issue. Hold on a second. But so they were saying, I got to go back to what you said. So they were saying that it’s dangerous because people will use it to make sure their drugs are safe. So it’s actually a gateway versus well, so what? I’d rather have them be using safe drugs and something that’s going to kill them.

It makes, that makes no sense. So I mean that’s ridiculous. They need to think, re, change their thinking. But now fentanyl, just so people understand what fentanyl is. Now fentanyl in low dose, is that something that gets people high that they like or is it, I mean, what is fentanyl? And I, because I know it kills in higher doses, but does it kill on low doses? And is it something that people like to take? Go ahead. So yes. Well, I guess I should just answer that extrapolated a little bit here. But so first and foremost, the only individuals usually seeking out fentanyl are the ones that are in pretty much the end of their addiction stage, meaning that, you know, they’re very close to the end of their life because at that point in time nothing is enough.

Because this is generally the strongest opiate. There are stronger ones, but they’re not widely used. So you know, you’re looking at the, one of the strongest medicinal opiates. Now in a, in a clinical setting, this before the halt Fentanyl act, which is I believe is going to pass, this won’t be used in a medicinal setting anymore. But you know, for the last pretty much 40 plus years this has been used in clinical settings for you know, third degree burns. I mean we’re talking major, major pain, end of life pain. So yes, it, there was a good use for it in terms of, you know, actual legitimate use.

But it does get people very high. It certainly is, you know, it is up to 100 times stronger than morphine. So if you ever had morphine administered to yourself for any type of pain, I mean, I can’t, I couldn’t even handle that the way it makes you feel. But once you get closer to the end of life addiction, which, I mean you are sick, you are withdrawing I mean, you, nothing is even working, not even heroin’s working for you anymore. People do seek out fentanyl and then the only other people really see seeking out fentanyl are individuals on probation and parole because they’ll move their opiate addiction to fentanyl because they’re not being tested.

Right now. Probation and parole officers don’t test because until our test came out, even urine testing, you were looking at probably 350 to $750 pass through for the taxpayer and up to probably a one to two month wait time on labs. So your test is less expensive. So, but, so what you’re saying is that this is encouraging fentanyl use because it’s the one thing that, that’s illegal that you can’t test for. And so it’s encouraging criminals and people to use it because when they go get tested for jobs or for anything, they can’t detect it because it’s not legal to test for it.

Well, you can test urine, there’s no doubt about that. So only the harm reduction test which tests the substances, we designed them for law enforcement, emergency responders, hospitals. I’m sorry to interrupt you. So if you can test for it, why did you say that they go towards it? Because you can’t test for it. That’s the urine testing. We actually have two different types of tests. We have the FDA cleared first, urine dip card. And that’s what probation and parole officers and employers would be testing with their, you know, their new employees, their, you know, their wards in prisons because prison deaths are up over 800% due to fentanyl.

But yeah, urine testing is 100% legal. The harm reduction testing which tests surfaces and substances in eight states, that’s still illegal. So that, those are the states. So if they’re just going to do that, not the urine, that’s why they would go toward it towards using fentanyl. I’m just trying to understand why would encourage. No, no, no. So, right, encourage it. Yeah, well, see, it really doesn’t. That’s the thing. I can’t wrap my head around that you would want to save every life you possibly could because in my opinion, you’re never going to cure addiction. Only God can cure addiction.

And we have not seen that yet. But as far as, you know, on the urine side of things right now, still federal probation, state probation, local county probations, they’re not testing for fentanyl because it’s too much, it costs too much and there’ lab cost with it. So we developed the test for, for $10 that you have a lab backup with that’s more accurate than any test that’s on the market. So we pretty much brought to fruition the fact that every single probation and parole officer in the country should be using. So with this, it’ll solve that problem of criminals trying to get fentanyl to get around the testing issue.

And the testing issue is an issue because it’s expensive. So that’s why they don’t do it. That makes sense. I was trying to get my arm, my head around why the criminal was encouraged to use fentanyl, and that’s why. Okay, and yours solves that problem. And now when they use it, what causes someone to die from fentanyl? Because fentanyl is safe, and low doses, it sounds like, but if you take too much or what causes someone to die from fentanyl. So it’s actually not safe in low doses. So it’s not safe for anything. Okay, no. So we can go through some science here, but if you’re.

If your viewers look at the head of a penny and they cover the date with just. We will just say salt or we’ll say fentanyl powder, just the date of that penny being covered is roughly 2 milligrams of fentanyl. Now, that generally will kill every single person on earth with an average body mass index. But when you get into polysubstance use, where it’s mixed with, you know, heroin, where it’s mixed with methamphetamine, cocaine, even marijuana, you can die from as little as 3 nanograms. So if you think about what that is, think of. Yeah, think of three grains of salt.

That’s enough to kill you in polysubstance. And George Floyd had 10 nanograms in his system when he. That killed him for sure. Yes, 10 nanograms. And he had multiple other substances in his system. So. And generally, the average autopsy and toxicology we see is between 7 nanograms and 15 nanograms. You’re never going to see anybody in the milligrams unless they’re using pure fentanyl. Only because when you mix that, it becomes so incredibly more deadly. So is any fentanyl, if you took like 1 nanogram, is that. Would that get you high and not kill you? Is there anything that can get you high and not kill you? I know you want to tell people, but is there anything that can get you high and not kill? Well, you’re supposed to use it for pain in medical settings, so there has to be something that it doesn’t kill you, well, medicinally, it’s, it’s certainly going to get you high.

I mean, there’s no doubt about that. It takes your. Again, we’re talking about end of life pain. We’re talking about mass trauma to your body. I mean, that’s generally the only time they give this because it’s so highly addictive. But you know, it’s, it’s nearly impossible to regulate. If you’re using this outside of a pharmaceutical setting or a medicinal setting, it’s probably going to take your life. I mean, you, you’re, you’re rolling the dice at 50, 50 every single time you would ingest this. And really, even at the extremely low dose, well, they won’t know how to regulate it because right now 70% of every single illegal pill that’s bought, you know, on the street, so to speak, Snapchat, where the kids are getting them, you know, this seven out of ten of them contain enough to kill at least one person.

Well, but what I’m trying to get to is the science on this. So what, what in the, in a medical setting, an extremely low dose that a doctor will give you at because you just have major trauma, is that life? Is that risk in your life as well? Or is it, you know, can you give it to people in a safe manner? So the only, if you recall, I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of this before, but when people were actually in, you know, end of life cancer treatments, what they did is they gave a time release gel pack that you would pretty much put on your arm or you know, one part of your body which would regulate the amount that you’re getting into your system.

Now in, you know, a clinical setting where you actually have an iv, they would do a very small nanogram drop, generally about 7 to 10 nanograms. But in that pure setting, 2 milligrams, again is enough to kill a person. So what you’re seeing, you know, on the streets right now and you know, in society without the clinical setting, it is illicit fentanyl. It is literally being sent from China over to the cartels. The cartels are bringing it in, or the cartels are making it, or they’re bringing the substances here, the chemicals here to make it here.

So you have, you know, average Joe drug dealer putting this together. That’s not a chemist, that’s not a pharmacist. They don’t regulate any amounts. Surely enough the, the people actually selling this don’t want to kill people. But probably 95 of the time they’re not the ones making this. And they’re selling cocaine, they’re selling heroin, they’re selling, you know, methamphetamines that they’re getting from the cartels that are cut with fentanyl. So that’s why you’re seeing fentanyl on the street. Could kill somebody, any, even the lowest dose. So my question is, is it ever beneficial to the drug user, even at the lowest dose? I mean, they’re seeking it out, so.

And they’re putting it in on purpose when they. I’m trying to look for intent here. So when they put it in on purpose, it’s always to kill. As far as the cartels and such, no, they want to get addicted. You know, the masses is basically. Why would they put it in if the lowest amount kills? Because they don’t want to kill their customer. Right. So what is. Why are you. The cartel truly doesn’t care, to be honest with you. They don’t. I mean, China wants everything that we have in America, and the cartels really don’t care what they do because they’re really getting paid just to get it into the country.

So to be quite honest with you, once they get that from China into, you know, their realm of Mexico, wherever they’re going to be near the border, they get paid getting that across. So they don’t care what it does after that point, but they don’t. So the drug dealers. The television series where the drug dealers actually care that you don’t kill their customers isn’t true. I think even the drug dealers want their customers not to die, but. Well, that’s true. Go ahead. I mean, that is true. Because right now, I mean, almost every single state’s adopting either a life sentence or the death penalty for this.

But, yeah, I mean, you obviously want your customer to come back. You don’t want to kill them, but it’s just the risk that they take because they’re getting the substance from, you know, unregulated bodies. If they could go to a pharmacy and get this and sell it, I’m sure they would probably want to do it that way because it keeps them out of the realm of prosecution. That’s not what I’m asking. Okay. So. Of course. So my question, though, is. So that coming in from China, China is doing it on purpose to kill us. I’m trying to get to intent.

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I’m sorry, not 50 million people. It’s. It’s enough to really kill 5 million. But you know, this country right now, Sarah, I believe we have enough to kill every American 20 times over. And that’s also backed up by Derek Maltz from the dea, because there’s people that have pill presses that can make up to 50,000 pills an hour. And every pill can take at least one life. So the cabal, in order for this to happen, the cabal has to be in with China wanting to kill all of us or to kill it. Now, is there besides the drug dealers, which is.

Or the drug takers, people are on the streets taking drugs. Is there other methods that they’re using to get. Get it to people who are not druggie. You know, they don’t take drugs. I mean, they’re disguising it in all different kinds of ways. Coming across that they’re putting in alcohol. No, my point is, is that they’re putting in it, they’re putting it in people’s alcohol drinks, they’re putting it in. These are other things that, methods that an innocent teenager or college kid who doesn’t do drugs, next thing you know they’re dead from a fentanyl overdose. And they were never a druggie.

So right now it’s being found in vape liquid, which is very scary. I mean there’s, there’s been multiple, you know, deaths because of this now. And we’re talking about over the counter vapes, that’s nicotine or supposed to be nicotine. And they’re, they’re lacing it with fentanyl to get individuals addicted or unfortunately take their lives. And what I was getting at earlier too with the drink aspect or you know, individuals that are in human trafficking, I mean, this is an incredible way not just to incapacitate a person, they put it on handles, door handles, they put it on dollar bills, they put it on anything that a person can pick up.

But in a, you know, a nightclub setting, they can easily put just enough to incapacitate you in a drink. And you will end up not only being. Well, they’ll killing you. Yes. But also it will, first and foremost, it’ll incapacitate you to where they can actually kidnap you. And then because it’s so highly addictive, they can keep you pliable and they can keep you compliant with their wishes and get you to do whatever they want you to do because your body needs that. So it’s just a absolute devil of a situation. But when they’re giving it to you to keep you compliant, the chances of killing you is very high.

Just even giving it to you. You are definitely correct on that. In these sophisticated, you know, trafficking groups though, they, it sounds so ridiculous, like it’s out of a mov, but they actually will employ people that know how to regulate this amount so they can keep their assets. They call the, you know, the person they’re trafficking an asset. They, they have the medical, it’s like in a medical setting essentially. And so you know how to create the medical setting to you to keep you alive but incapacitated. That makes sense. It is. There’s so much money in trafficking and believe it or not, medical doctors and specialists are involved as well.

Right. I mean, there’s so Much money. Those people aren’t immune to being part of the trafficking scene, is the point. No, not at all. And you know what? Just a few weeks back, we had the Hulk Fentanyl act, you know, put into play here, and we had 16 Democrats vote against that. Why? I really want to see where their ties are to. No, but that’s my point. I’m so glad you’re bringing this up is because I see stuff like that all the time where a politician votes against something or put someone, something through. Like in my state, I watched them pass at the, at midnight the bill to get rid of it was the sex, sexual orientation.

They removed that. Adults attracted to minors, they removed that language. Everybody pushed back and then they put it back in and passed it in the, in the night when nobody was paying attention. And so you think about that, you just shake your head like, why would anybody do stuff like that? And so this is a really good example of that. Why. So what was in that bill? And why on earth would anybody vote against it? So what was in the bill that was so great? Well, I want to state the only reason they’re pushing back is because those 16 politicians have some ties to some type of a company that they still want to see this used in medicinal settings because it’s money.

But to be honest with you, Sarah, I mean, there’s so many dirty politicians, and I think you certainly know this, that I would question anybody who says, let’s, let’s stop the number one killer of adults 18 to 49 from actually killing people. Let’s wipe out fentanyl all we can. And obviously, again, it is the fastest growing killer of children under 14. So it would take a very, pardon my French, ballsy politician to say, hey, I’m not for this. I want fentanyl out there. I mean, that’s really what they said when they shut that down. So, but the only thing, 16 politicians that voted against it, because we’ll put it up with the show, These are the 16 politicians that voted against this bill.

If you have not have it on hand, please, and I’ll list it with the show notes of this and say, these are the Democrats that voted against this. It’s important that people see that and say, ask your politician, why did you vote against this? This. I mean, because if we don’t push back on really obvious things like that, we can’t. I mean, if we can’t even do this, what can we do? Right. Well, and here’s the thing too. See, I don’t think people realize how much this is actually affecting society. I mean, I need to a certain extent, probably almost every single person, you know, you yourself included through your children, know a person who has passed due to this or was murdered due to this.

What you see in the media, they always say fentanyl overdoses. That is absolutely not the case. I mean, we just had an 11 year old and a 14 year old die when their grandmother was watching them because they had got something on Snapchat. An 11 year old and a 14 year old are not overdosing. They’re not addicts in any way, shape or form. It’s probably the first time they’re trying something. So that is a misconception all the time. And we find through our research that 87% of the deaths that you see every single year, they are not knowing that they are ingesting that substance.

So that’s actually a poisoning. But also there’s only a few people on this earth that report the number correctly because, you know, we hear between 85,000 to 130,000 that have been dying for the last, let’s say six years. But these individuals that are dying on the streets every single day, that are homeless because this ravages the homeless population, those individuals never get an autopsy ever. So you can add at least 200,000 more to this death rate because of the fact they’re just not getting autopsied. I mean, when a homeless person dies, unfortunately, they’re just pretty much disposed of.

Well, let me ask you. Sure. They don’t look, even look at it. I watched during COVID you know, the nursing homes, they were actually feeding nursing homes, coma was actually being put up for, investigated for this. Now finally, finally, you know, all the people that whatever they were doing to kill people in nursing homes during COVID they were doing it. In my state, our percentage of people who died in nursing homes was actually higher than any state in the country. And that guy stated, that’s Tim Walls. But when I look at that kind of behavior, I start thinking that maybe they’re doing this on purpose because that’s their, that’s a communist type attitude.

Is anybody that doesn’t contribute to society, they don’t think they’re, they’re valued and they try to, they want to get rid of them. It’s kind of like the death in Canada where they have, the government is assisting suicide. They actually want these people to die. Whereas if you have a, a Christian or you have some kind of spiritual background, you realize that every human being has extreme value and, and you look at it holistically and realize that the value is not only to them, but also to our souls by valuing life. Life. It’s, it’s. It’s a much broader way of looking at it, but they don’t.

They look at it very narrow on what this person contributes to society, and they actually want to get rid of them. So do you think that they could be purposely feeding the homeless population with this stuff? Well, did you. I’m sure you saw the headline where the California new mayor said that he wants to. How he’s going to fix the homeless population is give them as much fentanyl as they want to. I’m not sure if you’ve seen that, but. No, you should. That’s my point. You should definitely look into that. That’s a real headline. And he got pushed back against by, you know, Democrats.

Obviously he’s a Democrat, and Republicans, of course, are torching him right now. Excuse me, but I’ve not seen his response. But I mean, I would imagine he’s going to have to resign. There’s no way to take that back. But that was really what he said. Basically, he says he wants to wipe out the entire population of homeless people through fentanyl. So. And here’s the thing again. When we say the 87% of population that is dying due to this from poisoning, many of those people are not homeless. Those individuals are actually ones that are, you know, desolate.

And they’re, they’re. They’re okay with pretty much dying because they’re so hooked on that substance. But you know, this, when you have these Democrats saying things like this, and, you know, obviously the 16 going against Hall Fentanyl, there are so many people that have lost their children in an innocent aspect. I mean, there’s children that have taken a top thinking they’re taking a Tylenol from a friend that don’t make it. And I’ve met over 5000 parents. Yeah, I’ve met over 5000 parents. We got started last year in June with getting our FDA clearances and our CLIA waivers.

And our first event was a Border911 event with Tom Holm and Derek Maltz and Lost Voices of Fentanyl. Lost Voices of fentanyl has 40, 000 parents that lost their children to this. And I met a family that lost three children in one batch. Oh, one batch kids all at once. It gives me chills. Right now. You’re. That would rip the soul. I mean, it’s like the soul is ripped out of your body from something like that. Oh, my God. Yeah, it’s. I mean, honestly, meeting them was just. It was tough on me to meet them because we have a very different test in terms of actually something that people would use first.

It’s the only test in the world for harm reduction, which is testing substances and surfaces. It’s the only test in the world to be at a non lethal cutoff. It goes to 1 nanogram. Our closest competitor is 10 nanograms. But ours, that’s not even close. Beyond. Okay, that’s not even close. Okay, yeah. Yep. And the why, the most widely circulated strip right now, because it’s so cheap, is 200 nanograms. That’s literally enough to kill up to 10 people if you miss. So. But what I was getting at is every other test out there that’s a substance, a harm reduction test, you have to drop your substance in water.

So at the Lost Voices of Fentanyl rally, you know, we had a tent, we were giving out samples. Of course, we give about, probably about 5,000 samples that day. Because people generally, most of them do something to honor their child. They try to save other children. I mean, that’s Lost Voices motto is, our kids are dead, we’re trying to save yours, which is very powerful. But I had so many parents come up to me saying, where were you guys three months ago? Where were you last week? Where were you? You know, two years ago? My son or my daughter would have used your test.

Because ours doesn’t require you to do anything to the substance. It keeps it 100%. We designed that for law enforcement because if they want to test something, they can preserve the weight of that substance for prosecution. But this is what drug users will actually use, because they don’t have to drop their substance in water. I mean, what addict’s gonna go spend money on cocaine or heroin or, you know, even marijuana and then destroy the substance? I mean, not only does it. It’s not gonna work. We find that less than 5% of people actually use the strips that they’re giving.

But they also, if they do wanna test their substances and be safe, they end up shooting the water into their veins. They become intravenous drug users because they need their fix. You know, they need to get unsick. And so that’s that. I’ll tell you, that was one of the hardest days of my life. And it was July 13th. It was the day that President Trump was shot in Butler. But this was before in the day. And meeting those parents, I mean, I’ll be as descriptive as I can. They wear Billboards around themselves with their children, and they’re walking, you know, around and they’re coming to meet you.

I’m sorry, do they have any other kids or. Those are only children. A lot of times they were their only children again, but the three, but the three that you were talking about, the one that was it once. Oh, God, I’m surprised they’re even able to walk around. I mean, I don’t even know all that was. I know. I mean, but I think that at that point, you kind of have to. I mean, honestly, it’s. You have to do something. I don’t know, but go ahead. Yeah. It’s tough, though. And you know what? In that situation, it was three pills that took three lives.

Yeah, I, I think that I would be ramble. I would be like, I have skills. What does that show? It goes, I have skills that I’m going to use them. I honestly, I don’t know what I would do. So now China, you think that China’s doing this on purpose to take out, to create chaos, to create destabilization? We know it’s coming from China because anything that they’re putting in, they know it’s killing. The likelihood of it killing somebody is extremely high. So they’re doing it on purpose. And, and why, why do you think it’s taking like the parents had asked, where were you last week? Why do you think it’s taking us so long to get our act together? Well, I mean, until we were able to develop the science behind the test, honestly, I think that every other, and I hate to say this because I think their heart’s in the right place, but every other company out there that didn’t realize, hey, drug users aren’t going to use this.

If you want to save lives, you have to make something that they’re actually going to use. So right now I look at every other company as kind of a fraud in this because one, they have lethal cutoff levels, are, like I said, our biggest competitor that almost is every state uses, every federal law enforcement body uses. They have a 200 nanogram cutoff level. It’s killed five people, you said. Yeah, so why even bother? Or up to 10. So why even bother testing if you’re going to kill 5 to 10 people anyways? Because they’re saying they threw money at the problem and at least they tried.

That’s why we got involved and we wanted to come out with something that actually will work. And luckily we’ve been able to, you know, work with Tom Holman, Derek Maltz, The DEA is auditing our new four panel right now and analyzing that. And then I met with Bobby Kennedy in January before he was confirmed. Now we’re meeting again to get hopefully every state governor on board with this because, you know, Bobby has a. He’s a recovering heroin addict. I’m not sure a lot of people knew that. So he understands the mindset. And again, as you know, know the Secretary of Health and Human Services, you have to show progress.

And what better way to make America healthy again? By solving the fentanyl epidemic. The number one killer of anybody, 18 to 49. Wow. Yeah, I think it’s. It’s incredible. Where can people. We were going to talk about some other things, but this became so interesting that I just wanted to dive into this, because people don’t know the details of fentanyl. I mean, we hear about it and things, but we don’t understand truly how it can get into people’s drinks. It can get Tylenol. Now, why it was laced with it. I mean, how did they get into the Tylenol? When people are being killed, which is.

They think they’re getting rid of their headache. Why did all three need to take Tylenol, by the way? But they think they’re getting rid of their headache or something, and it’s laced is. How does it get laced? Well, so this was a young girl, and she thought she was taking. I think she was 13. This is a true story that I heard at the. At the rally and at the parents. But, you know, her friend just went in her medicine cabinet and gave her something that she thought was a Tylenol, and she didn’t survive. Now, the three individuals that died, the three of the same family, children, they were trying.

They were thinking they were taking oxycodone. So that was not a Tylenol in that situation. But so basically, is it. Basically, you think you’re taking something different than what you’re really taking. People is the problem. They’re not taking Tylenol. They’re taking. What would they be taking that would be laced with fentanyl? I mean, I don’t understand how does. How does that happen? It can happen. I mean, if you think about it, the child went to a medicine cabinet, her friend went to a medicine cabinet to get her a pill, thinking it was something she didn’t know.

She probably gave a parent’s pill. But what is the bottle. What would be a pill that would be. It would be pretty much straight Fentanyl. Sarah. I mean, if the DEA saying literally, and this is from their website that every single illegal substance now, every sing, you know, batch of cocaine, every single pill, I mean, technically 7 out of 10 pills do contain fentanyl. But they’re saying that almost every single substance you’re seeing now contains some level of fentanyl. And most of the time, enough to kill you in any illegal, I mean, any illegal pill will contain some kind of fentanyl and potentially high probability it will kill you.

Yeah, I mean, I want to say more than 50% at this point in time because again, you’re seeing this, this, you’re seeing marijuana be laced with this. That marijuana is supposed to be the feel good. You know, it’s part of our pop culture in many states. It’s legalized now, which I would imagine that’s safe as long as you’re getting it from a dispensary. But they’re lacing this. So that’s why it’s so nefarious to, you know, people might be 13 or 14 trying marijuana for the first time, thinking it’s so innocent. I mean, anybody trying something for the first time, it shouldn’t be a fatal mistake.

I mean, it should never be a fatal mistake. But, but you know, that’s what we’re at. What a way to stop drug use is to say you use it once, you’re gonna die. Tell all your kids, and they don’t even start it. I mean, I, not that I’m condoning it, you know, condoning putting this incident, but the bright spot is maybe we can really put a dent on drug use in general, but where this, you know, it’s awful, but it is awful. But you know, you know what it is, Sarah, to be honest with you, we had real health teachers.

We weren’t hearing about 346 different genders and we weren’t hearing about CRT. We weren’t hearing about, you know, how many sexual preferences there are. We were hearing about don’t use drugs. I mean, I’m in my 40s, so Len bias. I was an athlete in school and I don’t know if you know the Len Bias story, but on top of the world, supposed to be, you know, a predate Michael Jordan athlete. And he tried a substance at a, at a nightclub and died, you know, right before he was even gonna get an MBA contract. So we had real health teachers.

We didn’t have whatever they’re teaching nowadays. I don’t even know the curriculum because they’re still trying to hide that from, from parents. Like they’re not talking about drug Use. They’re just talking about it. They’re not talking about all the really important subjects. They’re talking about goofy crap that isn’t, isn’t the main things we need to be teaching kids is, is what you’re saying. 100. I mean, I remember our health teachers. It was all about safe sex. It was all about, you know, don’t use drugs, don’t drink alcohol. I mean, they even pretty much taught us why we would get caught.

I mean, so we had real people, you know, back then. And if you just look at the world, you know, we’re talking probably, I guess probably 30 years ago, roughly would be my middle school times. And they, they absolutely scared the heck out of you. Now they don’t. Well, I think we’re kind of out of touch. I’m out of touch a little bit because back then I, I, I don’t realize how different it is now because what I experienced and what the kids are experiencing now is so much different that I have to get. And I’m learning about it, my audience is learning about it from people like you, but we have to learn about it because we just can’t fathom that things are as messed up as they are.

Yeah, and you know, you hate to see people losing their life politicized. But I think it was actually a good thing because with this last election cycle, a lot of people learned about fentanyl and how deadly it was. So any awareness is good. And I know you said, where can people kind of learn about this? If you go to the fentanyltest.com which is our website, we have a bunch of educational material. We have links to support groups. If somebody lost something, it’s not just a place to buy tests. We really, truly care about this absolute epidemic.

And really it truly comes from, you know, the best harm reduction is certainly having a parent or a health teacher or, you know, a pastor, anybody influential in a young person’s life to say, don’t ever use this. I mean, the best harm reduction is not using drugs at all. So there’s a lot you can teach there. I want the list of 16 Democrats who voted against it. Sixteen politicians. I don’t care if Republican, Democrat, but the 16 politicians, because there’s plenty of stupid crap that all the politicians are doing, no matter what side of the aisle you’re on.

But in this case, they happen to be Democrats. You can send that over. I’m going to list those people. I won’t do that because it’s absolutely ridiculous that they’re voting against this. And if they did vote against it, they better tell us why. You know, what is. And. And people out there need to go and say, why did you vote against this? So thank you so much for joining the program. I really appreciate you sharing this and doing this work because you are saving lives by doing this. Us. Well, no, thank you so much for having me.

And honestly, thank you for the great interview and asking questions because it really takes a lot of kind of layman’s terms because we can’t get really scientific about this. But you have to break it down to say you have to scare the parents, you have to scare the teachers, and you have to scare the kids, to be quite honest with you. And it’s all true, though. This is no lies. This is, you know, not even any bluffing. This is seriously just something that’s killing people at such an incredibly high rate that it must stop. And the best way to do that is education and to never touch any illegal substance at this point.

Yeah. At all. So thank you so much for joining the program, and I really appreciate what you’re doing. Thank you again, truly appreciate it.
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