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We don’t really have options left. I mean, there’s a couple. One is you could put boots on the ground. That would be an even bigger disaster. I don’t think Trump will do that because it would be the worst possible outcome. Right. We would have tens of thousands of military men and women who would die as a result of that. And there’s no guarantee we’d even be able to take Iran. It’s a massive, massive country, four times the size of Iraq. But the difference is Iraq is flat. You can roll tanks through Iraq very easily. Iran is not.

It’s very high mountain ranges. Very, very difficult. Much larger military in Iran and a populace that is galvanized behind the leadership that’s ready to. Have you thought about whether your investments are making the highest returns they can and eliminating as much taxes as you can? I think all of us want that strategy, right? That’s the strategy that the wealthiest use. And my friends at Ironhawk Financial are helping my listeners figure out a strategy to do exactly that. If you want the best returns on your portfolios, you want to eliminate as much taxes as you humanly possibly can and you want to set up your grandkids, you want to set up your kids and you want to set up yourself for having the most amount you possibly can in your portfolios.

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Perfect opportunity. We’re going to be talking about the draft. Is it potentially going to happen? He has some opinions on that. We also talk about the capital flows that are going towards building up war and how that ties into maybe the draft. And we also talk about how businesses are being evaluated and whether their market cap even equates to what the their value should be. When you start comparing it to smaller companies, small countries with less resources out producing are companies that are massive, huge market caps and they are small but producing more efficient, more effective, better products and, and they’re able to out compete us.

And when you look at Iran, the fact that they had. This is where, you know, where we really start diving into this, where they have these inexpensive drones that are 8,000 to $20,000 a piece and we have these $20 million or more missiles to take down one drone. It starts showing you that the value proposition and these values of these companies and how we’re going about doing business and doesn’t make sense and that they’re in the business of making money instead of being effective. We’ve gotten ourselves into this mess of being too bloated, bureaucratic, spending too much money on things that aren’t that great for us.

And we are being out innovated. They’re out innovating us with tools that aren’t that expensive anymore. And it’s something I need to talk about more, how these more nimble. You see it all the time in entrepreneurial companies. The big companies come in and buy the little ones because they know they can’t innovate. The innovation always comes with the small guys. Well, what happens when it’s whole countries that are doing that and us big monolithic United States is not anymore because these massive companies have pretty much taken over and capital’s not flowing to the entrepreneurs and the people innovating and we’re getting this kind of nightmare and they’re controlling who gets to sell to the government, who gets to create new innovations, who gets to thrive.

I mean, we’ve been seeing that many industries for the last couple decades and now we’re paying the price for it. And it’s happening on a world scale. And we’re going to talk about that today and many other topics. Before I get into that, I need to tell you I have a couple replays on my sub stack. We did a tax redirection webinar with Ian Clifford and that one’s interesting. It had quite a bit of people going there. So you can find that. I’ll have the link to the replay below. And then I also have a webinar coming up very soon and you might have missed it, but I have it.

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I have been talking about that on my thrive hours on Sunday. That’s why I have my thrive hours. I want to talk about human potential, where we’re going, but from the most positive kind of. It’s not all positive, but most of it is on, on what we are, what our history was and what we’re capable of. So don’t miss those Sundays. Thrive hours, I think those are really popular. People are really enjoying those. And then of course, I have my Friday economic review. People are enjoying. That’s a totally different direction. It’s more my business direction, which is what, you know, what’s my background.

So I, I like to really dive in with. I like to really analyze worldwide economic, global changes and show it in the numbers and I bring on the top thinkers I can find. And that’s what we discuss. We talk about where the world’s going. So don’t miss that one as well. Okay, let’s get into the show with Ben Swan. And for those of you don’t know, he used to be a Fox correspondent. He talks about it at the end, what happened. He is well respected because he’s one of the few that was just willing to do real reporting on topics that now is like mainstream.

But 10, 15 years ago, you were on a fringe, but he was taking him seriously and he’s really a remarkable person. I think you’ll enjoy this conversation. Okay, here’s my conversation with Ben Swan. Hi, Ben. Welcome to the program. So glad to be on Sarah, thank you for having me. Yeah. You’re someone I’ve wanted to talk to for a While. So thank you for joining. You’ve been covering the draft, and I just had Mary Holland on, who’s the head of the Children’s Health Defense, and we were talking about the. The Navy just made it mandatory for them to take the flu vaccine, and we’re not going to talk about the vaccine today, but the fact that the flu vaccine is mandatory, but they put through the MRNA shot that is over 75% reactions.

And it has. I mean, it’s just crazy. At 270 severe reactions for every single hospitalization it saves. Yes. As we are entering into a period where the draft might happen, where people might be drafting. I mean, is it. We’re in a really risky, volatile time and they’re doing these crazy things. What are you saying? So it’s just that one triggered me. I was on a mission covering it, and that’s why I had her on. But you’ve been covering the draft. What are you seeing with that? Do you really think we’re going to have a draft? Like, people are really going to be drafted? Well, I think that as a journalist, I always tell people I don’t always know why things are happening, but I look at what is happening, and when you look at what is happening, many times you can figure out why it’s happening.

So not the why, but the what around the draft. We know that. Obviously, we’ve had selective service in place here for decades. It’s not a shocking thing. When I turned 18 years old, right. I went down to the post office and filled out my selective service card, had it submitted. Not a big deal, not going to get drafted. This is never going to happen. But there’s something new that’s happening technologically right now, which is that the Trump administration has announced that they’re moving to a new system where you no longer go down and fill out any selective service card.

You are automatically entered into the draft when you turn 18. And the way they’re doing that is they’re, you know, we’re being tracked all the time. All of our data is being captured, all of our data is being monitored. Yep. Our profiles online. Right. We all know this. Well, what the government is doing is they’re taking all that information, it’s being cataloged into a system, and then that system is thereby determining, oh, this person based on public records, based on, in some cases, information that’s coming out of illegally hacked records for places like Equifax. But they’re gathering all this information through AI they’re throwing it into a system, and then that system is determining, okay, all these people are automatically registered for the draft.

So this month, the Trump administration was running, basically, a contractor who was working with them was running a simulation of what this automated draft system would look like and how it would function. And so they started to do that. And one of the things they already know going into it, by the way, is that their equipment is antiquated, it’s old. They’re not even sure it’s going to be accurate because of the files that it’s pulling from. But the question becomes, why? We know what you’re doing. You’re trying to transition from a system that says it’s selected service, and you have to go down and register to say, we don’t need you to register anymore.

We’re going to go gather that information. Simultaneously as that’s happening, there are a number of influencers who keep talking about the need for a draft, the importance of a draft, the value of a draft, why every man should serve. And so you start to hear that and you’re like, the little, you know, starts to go off to say, these things are many times not unrelated. There is a messaging that goes along with what’s happening on the ground in terms of the technology and those changes. So, to me, that’s what I think is so alarming about it.

And honestly, it’s a pretty disgusting thing. Look, we have a volunteer military force that is paid. We have paid soldiers who volunteer for that service. Great respect for anybody who chooses to do that. That’s terrific. Now, I do believe that, for the most part, I would love to say you’re protecting the country. I think most of our foreign interventions do not protect our country, but the men and women in uniform don’t make those decisions. It’s made at a much higher level, but it’s been voluntary, and we know how. What an unmitigated disaster the Vietnam draft was.

And really, it was the draft that shifted the tide on Vietnam, knowing that we couldn’t win, but also forcing these young men to go off to a war that. That we couldn’t win. Which is exactly what’s happening in Ukraine right now. Right. It’s much more violent there. They’re dragging men off the streets, going and finding them in their homes, pulling them out of cars, pulling them out of restaurants. The videos online are insane. If you haven’t seen them, and there’s a lot of them out there. They’re very suppressed, obviously, in our national media, but we’re talking about tens of thousands of men who are dragged away from their homes and forced into the front lines for a war that Zelensky knows he’s not going to win.

They’re literally throwing these men into a meat grinder. There’s a horrifying video the other day of a little girl crying for her dad as they’re dragging him away. That little girl’s crying because she knows her dad’s not coming back. Yeah, they just don’t have a chance. It’s crazy. And the drugs on the front line to keep these soldiers going. I did some reports on that. I do a lot of reporting on the capital flows around the world. I have Martin Armstrong on, I’ve had different economists on. And we talk about what’s really happening. And there is a lot of capital flow is going towards war.

And it looks like just in the last week, the amount of mounting cash that’s being put aside to escalate the war in the Ukraine area is increasing. Like it’s becoming very, very serious. And that, coupled with the draft and coupled with all the volatile situation that’s happening in the Ukraine area. What are your thoughts on that? Well, I think we’re in a huge mess right now. I mean, if you look at what’s happening in Ukraine, again, it’s a war they can’t win, but they won’t stop fighting. And when I say they won’t stop fighting, I’m not talking about the soldiers, because the soldiers don’t want to keep fighting.

I’m not talking about the general population, because the general population says we don’t want to keep fighting. We want this warning. And in fact, 85% of people in Ukraine who are polled say in the war right now, they don’t care if they lose the Donbas. They don’t care if Russia takes the eastern part of the country. They want the war to be over. Right. But it’s the leadership, it’s people like Zelenskyy and his inner circle who are enriching themselves, who won’t end it. Then you take that and you couple it up against what’s happening in the war with Iran right now.

This is not a war that we can win. And the reason we can’t win is actually, I think, much to President Trump’s surprise, because I think he was woefully misinformed before this, which is it’s not even a criticism of him as commander in chief, you only know what you are told. And they were not honest with him about our capabilities. They were not honest with him about our missile stockpiles, the kind of missiles we have the Pac Threes, the Patriot missiles, the Thaad missile interceptors. They lied to him and told him we have plenty, we’re fine.

We weren’t fine because we just spent the last four years giving away our stockpiles to Ukraine. And if you look at the numbers there, it’s ridiculous. So there’s a concept here. And if you go back just even a couple years, I remember there was a soundbite from Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, who was talking about a bill that was passed, I think it was 50 billion, 70 billion for munitions to Ukraine, right. And he said, well, listen, I need people to understand we’re not sending this money to Ukraine. This is actually good for America because we’re building these weapons, right? We’re buying from our own contractors who have, you know, workers here in the United States.

There’s jobs in the United States. And we’re sending them our old stuff and then we’re going to replace it for ourselves with the new stuff we’re buying. So this is all great. Here’s the problem with that. It takes two years to build one Patriot missile. Two years. The amount of time or amount of missiles that we receive right now from Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, who are the two companies that build PAC Threes. A thousand a year is what they’re able to do. Well, we burned through 4,000 patriots in the first couple of weeks of this war.

So the. There’s a scam that’s been run on the American people by the military industrial complex, by military contractors who have said, we’re going to charge you unbelievably high prices for antiquated equipment and very small amounts of it. Well, it’s great for them. It’s a great business model for them. Right? We build a few things. You know, each Patriot missile costs what, over a million dollars to build. So we’re going to build 1000 at a million dollars apiece. That’s great for the contractor, but it’s terrible for the defense of the United States because we’re building far too few weapons at far too high of a price.

You compare that to what the Iranians are doing. The Iranians spend about 8 to 20,000. There’s a debate about what that number is, but it’s no higher than 20. It’s no lower than 8,8000 to $20,000 per shaheed drone that they build. So they’re cranking out thousands upon tens of thousands of drones. And we’ve got 1,000 missile interceptors that we’re trying to knock Those drones down with. And so this war has exposed the damage that military contractors have done to this country. Because we’re not in the business of defense. No, they’re in the business of making money.

Right. They’ve been in the business of making money out the backs of war. So a drone to shoot an eight to $20,000 drone, they’re using a $20 million missile. I mean, that kind of thing, right? Yeah, exactly right. There was the point in the war in which there were only, I think, seven of these special radar planes that the United States has. They are $500 million apiece, and one $20,000 drone takes out one of them. There were seven in the world, there’s now six. Because one Jihy drone, $20,000 to knock down a $500 million aircraft. I mean, the economics of that war, they just don’t work.

Well, I think the economics of AI and so much of the industries don’t work. I think this is showing a flaw in market cap evaluations versus seriousness of what they can actually get accomplished. And I think China’s AI showed that they spent so much less than we did and they could compete at a better. Better than us because they were restricted on the chips that they were getting. So they were forced to create better AI. And I think it’s getting people to realize you can throw only so much money at something. If you can’t perform, you can’t perform.

Oh, that’s. That’s exactly right. That’s exactly right. And I think AI is a great example of it. I think you’re right about that. The. I think over the next probably five years, there’s going to be an AI bubble that bursts because the amount of money flowing into data centers and into AI technology and these startups, it’s going to be very similar, I think, to the dot com bust where so much money is flowing in and then the actual results you’re getting from won’t justify it. Look, there are multiple companies right now that are already walking away from AI and rehiring their workforce.

Rehiring the workforce they tried to replace with AI because the AI can’t do the job. Yeah. And I think it’s. They made a mistake of jumping too far ahead of themselves. And because they were sell, they were sold on the hype and they have to be more careful. But I think this really does is a fundamental shift on how we view valuations of companies. I mean, when you look at the market cap of all these companies, they’ve been doubling and tripling over the Last couple years, we have ones that are over 5 trillion, doll. I mean, what the heck is going on? Right? And then we realize these smaller countries are outperforming us with a fraction of the resources.

Now, Iran. Yeah. And Iran, it showed. I mean, they actually have more strength than us. If we only have a thousand missiles and they have all these drones that can outperform those thousand missiles. I mean, that. This is the weakness that you’re showing. Now, is that embarrassing to Trump on the. On the international scale? I mean, I. You say it’s not his fault because he was lied to, but politics is politics, and he looks a certain way to the international world. Well, and he looks a certain way to the American public, too. Right. Which is. He looks like a fool.

Right. He’s put in a position where he looks like a fool because you went into a war thinking it was going to be easy. I’m not a big fan of Chris Christie by any means, but I heard a quote from him the other day which I think rings true. He said, Trump finds himself now in the worst possible position of becoming Jimmy Carter. I’ve heard that, too. That’s actually what he’s kind of facing here. He is going to actually be the first US President to lose a war. And did we win Vietnam? Absolutely not. But no one calls it a loss for the United States.

Did we really win in Iraq? I’d say no. We decimated Iraq, and then we left a power vacuum that we had to deal with the consequences of in the form of al Qaeda and ISIS. Did we win in Afghanistan, or. It took us 20 years to replace the Taliban with the Taliban. But this is different. This is different because in this case, the US has actually reached a point where we don’t really have options left. I mean, there’s a couple. One is you could put boots on the ground. That would be an even bigger disaster. I don’t think Trump will do that because it would be the worst possible outcome.

Right. We would have tens of thousands of military men and women who would die as a result of that. And there’s no guarantee we’d even be able to take Iran. It’s a massive, massive country, four times the size of Iraq. But the difference is Iraq is flat. You can roll tanks through Iraq very easily. Iran is not. It’s very high mountain ranges, very, very difficult. Much larger military in Iran and a populace that is galvanized behind the leadership that’s ready to fight 90 million people in that country. So it would be a disaster. I don’t think we’ll do that.

The other option is he could go nuclear and say, well, I’m not going to lose. I’m just going to wipe these guys off the face of the Earth. Could do that. But then that opens Pandora’s box and you can’t put anything back in. Once that happens, everybody starts firing nukes if that happens. So there’s no good, good solution other than to walk away. But if you walk away at this point, the only thing that’s going to happen, happen is the Strait of Hormuz is now going to belong to the Iranians. Right. Which it didn’t beforehand. They could have.

But I think that this war actually showed Iran they’re stronger, thought they were, that the US Was weaker than they thought and that they were stronger than they thought. And what has actually happened is that Trump, instead of decimating Iran, he actually elevated Iran. Iran has now become the fourth kind of region of power in the world, center of power. So that’s what Israel wanted to have happen as a result of this war. They wanted to break up Iran, knock it down to pieces, and then Israel becomes kind of the premier force in the Middle East.

Instead, the opposite has happened. Israel has been kind of sidelined. The US Looks weak. And now you have kind of four countries in different parts of the world that are in control. China, economically, Russia, in terms of gas and natural resource, the United States, obviously, and then Iran. Iran’s now the preeminent country in the Middle east and. And other countries in the Middle East. Look at them like you did something that no other Middle Eastern country has been able to do in 30 years. You stood up to the United States and you withstood the United States well, but this is where it gets dangerous.

And same with Ukraine, and this is where we’re seeing the capital flows that are showing. These Western countries don’t like losing, Right. They, when they lose other wars, they lose in a way where it just kind of peters out. And then you can say they didn’t lose, right. They pull out this one. These are making it look like they’re gonna have egg on their face. And they don’t like that. And so it’s looking like, based on where the cash is going, the flows of money, that they are going to do some drastic. They could do some drastic elements, and it could get really dangerous really quick.

It absolutely could. I think what’s interesting about what’s happening in with NATO partners, specifically the coalition of the willing, right. Which is just such a. It’s such a clown show, you know, you have. What is it, Mertz? You in. In Germany, you have Macron in France, you have Starmer in the UK and what’s fascinating is, is all those guys are gone. And if you go back before them, right, when it was, who was it? Olaf Scholz was in Germany when this war started, right? He’s gone now. Now Mertz in Germany has announced he’s stepping down. He’s gone.

It’s because the people don’t want them. They’re outlasted. Two of them, two of their chancellors, just during this war, not. Not even talking about going back to the beginning of when Putin was running Russia, but just during this war, he’s outlasted two of them. Macron’s term is coming to an end. And then Starmer, Boris Johnson obviously was in the UK and then Starmer obviously has stepped down as well, and the UK can’t keep a prime minister. This is like watching, you know, the Dallas Cowboys pick a head coach, changes every single season. It’s just constantly different now.

So it’s. It’s fascinating to watch that. So to your point, yes, they get desperate. But I think what’s happened is that Putin has played a much smarter game. He hasn’t taken their bait. He’s moved very slowly, so slowly in taking the Donbas so slowly and kind of moving methodically and not letting NATO, not letting Western Europe drive the timeline, that he’s not only outlasted them, he’s outlasted the will of their voters. And their voters are saying, we’re done with this. We’re tired of it. I mean, there’s a rising force in Germany right now saying, we’re going to normalize relations with Russia again.

We’re done. If you’ll elect us, we’ll normalize that. We’ll start buying gas and oil from them again. We’re done with this. So I think it’s very interesting to watch kind of the adult in the room, if you want to call him that, in terms of Vladimir Putin, who kind of outgained all of them by taking his time, moving slowly but still being efficient. Now, the one thing that has changed on the battlefield in Ukraine, I’m sure you’re aware of this, is that the Russians have taken Odessa and they’ve blocked the ports in the Black Sea so no ships can approach those ports because they’re using drones to hidden ships that approach.

What that means is that weapons that typically flow into Ukraine, that’s how they get there. Put them on ships and they go through the Black Sea. Can’t do that anymore. They’ve also blocked and are preventing because it’s the harvest season for the grain in Ukraine to leave. So grain Ukraine has been called for many years the breadbasket of Europe because the grain industry there is so powerful in terms of the GDP of Ukraine. They can’t move any of the grain out now. And so he has, he’s applying a different kind of pressure. And again it’s taken him, he’s moved very slowly, very methodically and now the pressure point I think is much more effective than it would have been prior to this moment.

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Do you think that the voters will have enough. I mean, we’ve seen, we’ve lived long enough where we’ve seen politicians do things that don’t go along with the voters. Do you think Israel, who has a lot of clout behind the scenes, do you think they’re going to force things to happen that we normally and the voters wouldn’t approve of? Well, I, I think they certainly want to. I think they’ll try. I think they’ll try. There have been statements that have been made just in the last, what, week or so where Israel says, well, if Trump is done with Iran, we’re not.

We’ll continue to strike them. In fact, every, every place where Trump has called for Israel to stop, they’ve put out public safety in saying, no Gaza, the peace plan that he proposed there, no Lebanon, no Iran, no. Like we’re going to keep striking every place we want to strike. Well, eventually Israel will get hit over that. The question is, you know, will Israel be willing to go as far as to use one of their nuclear weapons? It’s possible, but the problem is, is that they’re such a small target and there’s a lot of countries around the world who are aimed at them if that happens.

Pakistan has already promised that if Israel uses a nuke, they will be hit with a nuke. North Korea has already promised if Israel uses a nuke, they will be hit with a nuke. So there are multiple countries that are already ready to do that. And the question is whether or not the Israelis will call their bluff or actually believe them. Well, what do you think is going to happen with politics now that Israel is losing face a little bit? And it looks like the Democratic Party has kind of separated themselves from it. But the Republican Party has put their heels in and supported Israel, but their base doesn’t support it.

I mean, there’s still a segment that does, but in general, the, the base doesn’t support it. So what are we going to see? Yeah, I think we’re going to, we’re going to continue to see kind of a rapid acceleration of dislike for Israel, because the problem is, is that Israel keeps making all the wrong moves. If you’re in a position where you’re, the public is disliking you more and more, you don’t go and get in their face more and more and demand they like you. Right. The people who were the biggest cheerleaders for Israel, Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, are the worst cheerleaders.

Right. They’re obnoxious, they’re grating, they’re demanding they’re whiny. They’ve got to change the way they’re doing this. And then there’s so many scandals that come out. You know, the $7,000 in influencer scandal. Right. We’ll pay these influencers $7,000 to say nice stuff about us. And everybody’s posting all this great stuff about Israel. Then all of a sudden there’s a lawsuit where none of them got paid. So now they’re all saying terrible things about Israel. No, it’s crazy. Totally crazy. That’s so bad. Okay. I mean, it’s just a clown act and. Okay. And I think that the Republican Party is not.

Has not have that much strength right now, especially when you look at some of the Epstein, you know, the way that they handled Epstein, the way these wars are. Yeah, absolutely terrible. And the way these wars are going to. I think that people are starting to question pretty much everything. I think they’re losing the independent base for certain. Oh, I think that’s absolutely true. I think that, you know, when Tucker came out last week with his 10 point plan and was talking about a third party, I don’t know ultimately what it will be, but I do believe that there is a massive group, tens of millions of voters who are ready to actually do what Trump said he would do in 2024.

In 2024, Trump was a great candidate, maybe one of the greatest candidates we’ve ever had in terms of laying out a vision of what he would do. He loved it. Yep, 2025 and 2026. Trump’s been a terrible president in terms of delivering on those promises. He has not delivered on almost any of those promises. A few things, but almost nothing. And so I think there’s a lot of frustration with people who say, man, I believed it and I kind of got suckered on one hand. But on the other hand, there are people who say, but wait a minute.

Love Trump or hate him? Trump proved something. Trump proved there are tens of millions of us who we don’t necessarily agree with the left right paradigm. We don’t necessarily agree that everyone has to pick a side. We can find commonality on the things we want to do. And there are some very basic things like affordability, not allowing big hedge funds to buy up all the houses in America, things like, you know, I shouldn’t have to pay $20 for a burrito. Little things like that. Right. That aren’t such little things. And I think when you start to talk about those things, you realize there is enough commonality for someone to break through this system.

Trump did it. He actually proved it. He wasn’t an establishment guy. He promised a cabinet that was going to be a coalition cabinet, you know, the Avengers bringing Tulsi Gabbard in, who’s now gone. RFK Jr. Who still remains, thank God. But, you know, most of these people who were brought in, it was like, we’re going to create, you know, a sense of unity and crossing party lines. Unfortunately, it hasn’t panned out, but it doesn’t have to pan out, because the blueprint and the framework for getting this done is there. And so, if anything, I would say I’m grateful to Trump, because even though he hasn’t delivered on virtually any promise he made, he still proved you can overcome the system.

He personally didn’t. He became the system. But you can overcome it in an election. We just have to get the right people who will actually do what they promised once they do what they promised. But do you think he made deals in order to get elected and he wouldn’t have gotten elected if he wouldn’t have made those deals? I don’t think so. You think it was more. I think he made deals, but I don’t think that those deals got him elected. What got Trump elected was Butler. Some people think it was a setup. Some people think it was real.

I have no idea. I don’t think you can fake a bullet flying past your head that close to you. Maybe he bladed. That’s what some people claim. Right. But I don’t know. All I know is this. I know that Trump, his surge toward the White House again came after Butler because people said, wait a minute, what is this? Right. He had a brilliant campaign, and he spoke to people about changing things and also going after the corruption. Now, he has not gone after the corruption, but he promised he would go after the corruption. I mean, you said you talked to Mary Holland and just this week, all the stuff we’ve seen with Fauci, Right? The fact that this man’s still walking around as a free man right now, when we know so many things, what we’ve just Learned about an 82% likelihood of a woman having a miscarriage if she got vaccinated while pregnant, and he’s going on television months and years after that, not just encouraging, but demanding that every single pregnant woman get vaccinated.

The fact that Wolinsky told them, if you’re pregnant, if you’re thinking about getting pregnant, if you’re not pregnant now, you’re going to get pregnant, you’re safe, do it. Get vaccinated. People Talk about crimes against humanity. These people were killing children out in the open, out in public, they were killing children. And they knew and they knew, and that’s what the proof shows. But we knew back then. We’re like, what in the world? When I was pregnant, they said, okay, everything’s done. You know, I’m like, this is crazy. When it was happening when I was pregnant back.

I know it was a while ago, but. But you were told, instructed to do nothing. I mean, you couldn’t do anything. And then suddenly they’re reversing it, and they’re convincing women to all go and get vaccines. It’s like that. And an experimental one at that. It’s insane. They knew it’s criminal. They knew it was proof. Yeah. Now we know. Now we know because of all of his emails back and forth, that Fauci knew this in January of 2021. Right. Pfizer knew it in February of 2021. By. According to their own data, they knew that then by August, September, he’s on television telling pregnant women to go get vaccinated.

They knew it years. They knew it for years. But this just was extra proof. But go ahead. Yeah, absolutely. But look, even. Even the. The. You’re telling people to go do this with Fauci himself. This blanket pardon he has, like you, it’s got to be tested. It has to be tested. Some blanket pardon for all crimes he ever may have committed. No way. And by the way, the federal pardon only works for federal crimes. That means states attorneys general across the country can start charging him with crimes, and they can try him in their states. I don’t know.

They should. Well, if you listen to the media, that is the establishment media, like NPR and stuff, they still talk about Fauci as a hero. Mm. They do. After all of. After everything, they still talk about it like that. I mean, I don’t how they have to, though. They have to. They have to talk about them that way because they were complicit. They went along with this. They were a part of this. Remember people like Don Lemon sitting on television and saying that people should be forced out of their jobs if they didn’t get vaccinated, they should be shamed and shunned from society.

And it wasn’t just Don Lennon, by the way. It was the entire host of people all across the board. And by the way, a lot of those people were even Fox News people. Right? So it wasn’t a right message. And so the establishment pushed for this. They demanded it. They insisted on it. But the Reality is, is that today media can’t acknowledge it, because if you do, you have to acknowledge that you were a part of this horrific crime against hundreds of millions of people. You were part of crimes against humanity. That was Nazi Germany level.

I mean, it’s just incredible. The Nazis could have only dreamed of being able to do what happened during COVID Exactly. I know. It’s like maybe it’s worse and maybe it is. Yes. And that. The fact that they’re still able to cover it up. I think there’s a lot of us that are very disillusioned by that. And then the Epsom Epstein thing, it seems like whoever’s not in office is the ones that uses it. As we are going to go and do something, and then as soon as they come in office, they protect it. I mean, how can.

How can something so vile be protected by people who we are supposed to allow to run our country? Because. Because they’re all involved. So many people at the top are involved. And that’s why. Or if they’re. If it’s not them, it’s someone they work with or it’s a donor, somebody who’s sending money their way. It would be so much easier to them if everyone would just stop talking about it. I think that’s Trump’s deal with it. I don’t think Trump. I’ve been through a lot of the Epstein files. There’s really not evidence of Trump being connected to Epstein in that way.

In fact, Epstein hated him. If you read the Epstein files, Epstein did not want him to be president. He was trying to prevent him from becoming president. They were not friends. So the. The narrative that they were close, I don’t think it’s true at all. I do think there’s a connection to Melania, and I think that’s what Trump is trying to protect. I think Trump is trying to protect people around him who he does not want hurt by. The Epstein files. What is her connection? It appears that she. There’s a lot of photographs of her with Epstein and that she knew him first and that at some point, he was the one who connected the two of them.

He’s the one who introduced her to Donald Trump. Now, one of the reasons I believe that story more so than I used to, is because Melania Trump came out and held a press conference to insist this was not true. Out of nowhere, like, no one even knew it was coming. Even people I know in the White House said, we did not know she was going to do this. She just goes out and calls a press conference and stands up there and says, I did not meet Donald through Epstein. I met him at, you know, some club.

Had nothing to do with Epstein. We’re not connected to Epstein. Turns out it’s because there was a Brazilian woman who was also a model, also connected to Epstein, who had been best friends with Melania Trump for years. Her husband just divorced her and had her. Had ICE deport her back to Brazil. And she had come out saying that she was going to blow the whistle on a lot of this stuff. So a lot of what Melania was doing was to kind of run coverage for that and to get out ahead of it. It worked because that story’s kind of gone away.

Well. So the question is, was she part of. Was she trafficked? Was she brought in as a honeypot in some way? I mean, that’s what the narrative is. I mean, I don’t know if there’s any proof to that or not, but that’s what the narrative is. That’s the narrative. I have not seen any proof that she was a honeypot. And remember, you know, Epstein’s circles were wide and vast. And so not every relationship was a honeypot. Not every interaction is a honeypot. Not every model that they’re involved with, you know, is. Is a intelligence asset. He was involved with so many people.

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It’s amazing what you can get done right in this world. And that’s the sad part. Okay, so you worked for Fox News for a while. You were on a local station. I want to ask a little bit about your background. You were on a local station and you were covering, covering things honestly, and you were doing amazing reporting. I remember back in the day, we’re like, God, this guy is really doing good work. And you were talking about things the rest of the country, the rest of the Fox media was not allowed to cover. How were you able to cover that and how, what did that ultimately happen and result in? Yeah, so when I was at the Fox station, I was in, in Cincinnati, Ohio, and we had started something called Reality Check, which was basically a franchise that we were trying to put together.

And the concept of it was we’re just going to take stuff that’s happening in the news and we’re going to go in depth on it and started to do that and started to get some traction. People were very interested in the things we would talk about, but decided to make it just less local news because it’s just local news is such garbage. It really is. It’s like the worst content, the worst product. And so we just want to talk about things that were interesting and actually make people smarter was the goal. And so we talked a lot about politics, we talked about things like the petrodollar.

A lot of the things I’ll talk about now, right? And I see them, people will be familiar with these terms in 2012. They weren’t like no one was hearing about what is a petrodollar? Like, what is that? How does that work? What is a cryptocurrency? What is a bitcoin? Right? And to be able to talk about these things on a local TV station, I mean, it was great. We had people watching us, our clips on YouTube from 140 countries around the world. We were just little local TV station. We went from last place to first place in that market and people just, they loved it.

Unfortunately, there was a lot of clash with management because they had their way of doing things and they wanted to stay hyper local. Talk about city council, talk about local bridges, talk about local roads. And I’m like, guys, everyone’s doing that. Like, let’s do something different. And the sad thing was the better we did, the more I was able to prove that people were interested in this stuff. But, you know, I was young and full of myself. They were old and full of themselves and so we just clashed a lot and eventually said, let’s just. Let’s just go our separate ways.

So I ended up leaving there, going to Atlanta, and then did the same thing in Atlanta and kind of blew up there as well. So. So now I work for myself. It’s a much better place to be because you get to talk about these things. But I will say it is kind of amazing to watch how media has changed, how online media has changed, how independent media has changed. So many people doing it now. And that’s great. And it’s actually kind of exciting to me because in many ways, I feel like I helped to lay the groundwork for a lot of other people to be inspired to do that, to figure out, yeah, we can talk about something other than the mold of what everyone else does.

And there’s a great online interest in it. Yeah, yeah, you can be different and you can excel at it. And when you went to Atlanta, was it the same thing? They wanted you to talk about local things, or did you just get. Were you just too good? Like, you were getting too much attention on hot issues that they didn’t want you covering? I think it was that. You know, I remember at the time, especially in, like, 2016, when I was over there, there was a lot of coverage that we were doing on things that, again, no one was really talking about things like, you know, was the Middle east actually better off under Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi? Right.

You were asking questions that were off limits. Right. I mean, yeah. I mean, who talks about. You can’t ask that question because they want the narrative to be that there’s no way that’s true. Right, Right. There’s no way. There’s no way that the. The Middle east was better off under Saddam Hussein more. But statistically, it absolutely was. Right? And here we are in 2026, and we can look back and we can say, absolutely, that was true. Look at the end result of all these forever wars. Right? We did not make the world safer. We did not make the world better.

We didn’t make it better in the short term for the people who live there. We didn’t make it better in the long term for anyone else globally. And we certainly didn’t make it better for the American citizen who spent 12 trillion of our taxpayer dollars on those wars. And we have nothing to show for it here except for dead soldiers in debt. Well, and people are waking up to that across the board. They’re like, we don’t. Why are we. I do think the Internet is helping because it’s turning the world into a smaller community where suddenly we’re bombing our suppliers, we’re bombing our listeners, or bombing the people that we talk to on social media chats.

We just don’t like that. No, I totally agree. It’s just such a different world now. And the things that we used to talk about even 10 years ago, are just very commonplace now. I mean, Epstein’s a great example of that. You know, when I was at the CBS station, I was the first guy to report on television on Pizzagate and talk about that. And it was a huge blow up and everyone was like, how could you, you monster. None of this is real. 10 years later. I think the idea that there are elites, I use that term loosely because these people are not elites, they’re monsters.

But these, these pedophile elites in the highest parts of government and finance, business, tech, science, health, you know, the idea that that exists, if you are a person who says that’s crazy, it’s not true, you’re in the minority, you haven’t been paying attention. Right. I would say the vast majority, vast majority of people would say no, we absolutely know what’s true. We don’t necessarily know who all these people are, but we know that they are. And I think that that’s a major shift that’s taken place that 10 years ago I would not have predicted that we would be where we are right now in terms of public consciousness and awareness of that.

It’s fantastic in that way because you can’t solve our problems without those kind of basic awarenesses, awareness existing. I mean, you just can’t. So it’s. And I remember that Pizzagate. Cause we, we had some shows on it, but we were more maverick. Right? You were like doing it, but you were doing it very, very professionally. And I was really impressed with it because you weren’t laughing at stuff, you were taking it seriously, but you were really trying to get to the truth. Let’s not just blow this off because it sounds weird. Let’s look and see what’s really happening.

Because there’s fire, there’s smoke here, guys. Exactly. And all we were actually asking for was that it actually be investigated. Right. And I love how even to this day, I was doing a search the other day on Pizzagate to see what AI would say about it. And it was interesting how much the term debunked came up. Oh, I’m sure it never tells you what was debunked, which part was debunked, which claim it never tells you any of Those things it just says it’s been debunked by authorities. And I think it said national media figures it was debunked by the people who were part of it.

And then they made sure they had news articles everywhere. So the AI would say it was a consensus. That’s right. Right. Because that’s how it works, that it’s not true. And that’s the way Wikipedia works. Right. All of that. And so AI is the new form of that, which is why I’m so resistant to AI as an information gather. I think for people who are interested in this part of AI, it is worth taking certain subjects you really know about, stuff that you have sources on and search it in AI and see what the AI is telling you.

Because if you want to become, I think, aware of what the next step is, is that there is a goal to feed in all these narratives and there’s going to be a complete revision of history that takes place through AI. There will be that, absolutely. If we’re not careful and it’s happening right in front of us and it’s, that is very, very serious. So we have a lot of work to do. Right. For sure. So absolutely. What a privilege it is. It’s a privilege. And to me it’s stressful because I, I see it and it bothers me.

But for those who can do it without the stress, I, I, I’m really impressed. But I have some work to do on that. So where can people follow you? So you can check out our website, which is truthinmedia.com and then you can follow me on X and Instagram. It’s the same handle. Made it easy. Ben Swan. B E N S W A N N. And then an underscore, Ben Swan on Instagram and on X. Thank you so much for joining me today. Great pleasure.
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